1804 - "Mucho Retardo"

Summary

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No Agenda Show – Episode 1804: "Mucho Retardo"

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: October 2, 2025

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Overview

In Episode 1804, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak take a comprehensive and satirical look at this week’s media narratives, political psyops, and cultural developments. The show focuses heavily on recent dramatic changes in U.S. military policy, the evolving “bald guy cabal” meme, increasing AI-generated political deepfakes, European security nervousness, Discord-driven protest movements (Gen Z212), and the ongoing government shutdown ("shutdown theater") featuring viral “sombrero” memes of elected officials. They also critique growing protein product trends, pharma industry news (TrumpRx), the move against free speech in the UK/EU, and culture war stories from Netflix to AI actors.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. U.S. Military Drastic Reforms & Media Coverage

Timestamps: [00:31] – [13:15]

• The episode opens with John’s observation of a "bald guy cabal" in military leadership:

  "It’s now apparent that bald people only hire bald people." – John Dvorak [00:23]

• The "three by three" news segment compares how NBC, ABC, and CBS frame the day’s major military policy story. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth rolls out sweeping reforms:

  • Ban on beards.
  • Highest male physical fitness standard for all combat roles (e.g., women may no longer qualify).
  • Overhaul or elimination of DEI offices, identity months, and gender policy.
  • Drill instructor latitude: swearing and motivational physical contact restored.
  • Use of urban U.S. cities as training zones for military (prompting satirical riffs).

• Trump’s support and tone:

  "If the words I’m speaking today are making your heart sink, then you should… do the honorable thing and resign." – Pete Hegseth via news clip [03:03] "If you don’t like what I’m saying, you can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank." – Trump via news clip [08:14]

• Critique of uniformity and “cabal” hiring patterns extends tongue-in-cheek to other industries (Apple, "gay cabal") [00:51].

• Both hosts underscore how national media’s coverage is nearly identical and includes substantial audio/production flaws, musing:

  "The continuous hum and buzz in the audio was just atrocious... The president does not like that." – Adam [04:26]

• Comparison to local police reforms by Adam's friend, noting the controversy generated by similar grooming and PT rules [05:00].

Memorable Quote:

"Could the military all be bald gay guys? Anything’s possible." – Adam Curry [01:21]

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2. Government Shutdown, "Sombrero" Memes & AI Deepfakes

Timestamps: [43:05] – [66:00], [49:23] – [54:30], [61:14] – [65:05]

• Shutdown “theater” includes Schumer/Jeffries memes: Trump posts AI-generated, racist “sombrero” images of Democratic leaders, creating a meme war.
• Senate negotiations, government layoffs furloughs, and back-and-forth accusation over demands for “healthcare for illegal immigrants.”
• Rise of AI-generated political content, often poorly executed, but already scandalizing the press:

  "Is it helpful to post pictures of Leader Jeffries in a sombrero if you’re trying to have good faith talks with him?" – News reporter [48:06] “Vice President Vance says he’ll 'make the solemn promise to stop the sombrero memes' if Hakeem helps reopen the government." [64:52]

• Vance is noted as “the mouthpiece” for the administration while Trump lets others fuel the meme fire.
• Show highlights the lack of actual outrage from Latino voters and the difficulty the press has in finding anyone who is genuinely offended [48:51].
• Dvorak: “No one’s gonna get mad about the sombrero except Jeffries and Schumer.” [54:55]

Memorable Moment:
AI-generated Schumer–"Mucho Retardo" and Vance deepfakes trigger press conference loops, mariachi music in the White House, and media handwringing.

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3. Discord, Gen Z212, and the New Psyops

Timestamps: [35:29] – [41:41]

• Discord chat groups and TikTok are now ground zero for organizing youth protest movements globally ("Gen Z212," “People’s Sick Day”).
• Similar protest methodologies appear in Morocco, Madagascar, and are being trialed in the United States.
• Adam relays authentic on-the-ground feedback from Danish producers, dismissing the narrative of national panic over Russian drones as mostly “psyop.”
• Hosts repeatedly connect social unrest and “hybrid warfare” themes to coordinated media messaging and the push for new drone/AI security funding (esp. in the EU and Silicon Valley).

Quote:

"This is the new Arab Spring. Oh, we need bread... This is Gen Z212. This is an op." – Adam Curry [38:33]

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4. Denmark Drone Panic – European Security/Scam Angle

Timestamps: [18:38] – [34:53]

• Sympathetic coverage of “drone scare” in Denmark, where civilians are encouraged to buy survival kits and prepare bomb shelters after “mysterious” Russian drone incursions.
• Round-robin news coverage, psyop messaging, and local producer report rebutting the official version.

"Nobody believes anything. I don’t know where they got these scared Danes from, but that doesn’t seem to be the boots on the ground situation." – Adam, quoting boots-on-ground [25:23]

• Satirical takedown of Silicon Valley’s entry into military tech (AI machine guns), the revolving-door between defense and startup hype, and flagrant scam potential.

“What Silicon Valley also brings is the scam... Silicon Valley, they’re doing the scam and it’s working out pretty well. Denmark is the main target because they’ve got the money, apparently.” – Adam Curry [20:20]

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5. AI, Tilly Norwood & the Culture Wars

Timestamps: [67:31] – [74:48]

• AI actor “Tilly Norwood” (Dutch comedian’s creation) drives industry panic in Hollywood about the future of jobs, but the hosts see it as pure marketing.
• Reactions by real actors (Emily Blunt, Whoopi Goldberg) are mocked as defensive and self-serving.
• Dvorak draws comparison to Hatsune Miku and other already-successful virtual celebrities.

“Hatsune Miku is a fake person in Japan that is extremely popular… this is more of a threat than they think it is.” – Dvorak [72:56]

• Broader concern over AI “friend” apps replacing human contact and the detrimental effect on societal cohesion.

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6. Free Speech Under Threat: UK/EU Crackdown

Timestamps: [90:29] – [95:21]

• Jonathan Turley segment: EU and UK are advancing anti-free speech legal regimes, with Hillary Clinton actively encouraging digital censorship abroad.
• UK magistrates handing down prison sentences for Facebook posts, free speech equated with incitement by default.
• Adam suggests the correct framework is “speech, not free speech… Just speech.” [90:28]

“Your opinion’s not in question—good, you… Only according to this guy, and he’s of this class… the assumption is that if you post at all, say anything, you’re trying… You’re doing that only to incite violence because that’s the only possible reason you’d do it.” – Dvorak [95:10]

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7. Media Critiques: Protein Push, Netflix, and Pharma

Timestamps: [142:13] – [147:13]

• Satirical commentary about the push for “protein in everything”—from fast food to popcorn, framing it as a byproduct of GLP-1 weight-loss drugs suppressing appetite.
• Discussion of Ozempic/Zepbound lawsuits and the rise of pharmaceutical direct-to-consumer sales (Trump Rx).
• Analysis of pharma lobbying, government negotiation, and media coverage around drug pricing reform. The “Trump Rx” site is suspected to be little more than a landing page for deals the industry already wanted.

Notable:

“Everybody needs protein because they’re not eating food anymore… I can’t eat because I’m puking from the Ozempic, so I need to force down some protein.” – Adam [147:07]

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8. Netflix & Children’s Programming

Timestamps: [78:46] – [88:13]

• Elon Musk’s criticism of Netflix for "pushing woke/transgender agenda" into kids’ shows like Cocomelon.
• Adam traces content back to Moonbug, a British company owned by Candle Media (connected to Blackstone and ex-Disney execs).
• Dvorak notes Netflix’s sudden shift over “the last couple years,” likening it to the show’s “bald guy cabal” hiring meme.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Bald Guy Cabal:

  “It's now apparent that bald people only hire bald people… Did you look at the military gathering? Every general, every admiral’s bald.” – John [00:23]

• Sombrero/AI Memes:

  “Esto is mucho simple. El Democrat Party is mucho retardo, okay? Mucho retardo.” – AI "Vance" [44:26]

• Discord as an Op:

  “It is an op. An op machine. We made Discord for gamers like ourselves. But other engineers have found it to be a great tool. I'll bet they do. And it's so easy. These kids are all hopped up on medication anyway.” – Adam Curry [41:14]

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Timestamps for Essential Segments

• Military Policy Three-by-Three, Bald Guy Cabal: [00:31] – [13:15]
• Shutdown Theater, Sombrero Memes: [43:05] – [66:00]
• AI Deepfakes & Media Meltdown: [43:05] – [49:23]
• Denmark Drone Psyop & EU Scam: [18:38] – [34:53]
• Discord/Gen Z212, New Global Protest Model: [35:29] – [41:41]
• Netflix, Cocomelon and "Trans" Kids Programming: [78:46] – [88:13]
• Pharma News, TrumpRx: [150:35] – [158:17]
• AI Actor Tilly Norwood: [67:31] – [74:48]
• Free Speech Crisis, EU/UK: [90:29] – [95:21]
• Protein Marketing Trend: [142:13] – [146:43]
• End-of-Show ISOs & Tips: [174:10] – [177:37]

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Tone and Style

The show maintains its trademark irreverent, skeptical, and satirical style, swiftly mixing in jokes, news deconstruction, and sharp pop culture references. The back-and-forth between Adam and John is simultaneously analytical and humorous, keeping listeners engaged even on dense topics.

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Conclusion

Episode 1804 offers a rollicking ride through American and global political theater, tech/media hype cycles, and societal anxieties—framed by the No Agenda duo’s signature blend of skepticism and cutting satire. If you missed the episode, this summary captures the main threads: the military’s dramatic face-lift, the government shutdown’s meme wars, EU security melodrama, and the coming onslaught of “AI slop.” No Agenda continues to break from mainstream narratives, fostering self-aware, engaged media consumption—bald, cabal, and all.

Transcript

[Adam Curry]

I love it. I'm a mama pig.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, it's Thursday, October 2, 2025.

[Adam Curry]

This is your award winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1804.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is no agenda, no shut down here.

[Adam Curry]

We're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's now apparent that bald people only hire bald people. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

It's cr. Well, that's an interesting little tidbit. I don't know if it's true.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, did you look at the military gathering there in Washington DC? It's like everybody's. Every guy, every general, every admiral's bald.

[Adam Curry]

Correlation is not causation.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like when you before TSA became TSA, the modern TSA, after Homeland Security, after their 9 11, it was all Filipinos in San Francisco. They would just hire each other. Or you get a company, a gay guy goes in there as a head of personnel, Boom, the whole company's gay like Apple. This is the, the cabal situation.

[Adam Curry]

It's the cabal.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like you're get. You're gay, you're. You're bald, you say, you know, I like that, I like the way you look. I'm gonna give you the.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute. Could it be, could the military all be bald gay guys? Anything's possible.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's good. Yeah, well, I wasn't going there, but it's possible. Yeah, I guess.

[Adam Curry]

Well, isn't that the definition of why we need affirmative action to get people with hair back into the military?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think that was the reason.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. Well, I was quite amazed when I saw your clips come in this morning because I saw the return of a feature we have not had for several months.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it's because this feature is produced by Steve Jones.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, the. The clip collector, indeed. Shall we roll it out since we're talking about bald guys? Yeah, hold on a second. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We gotta do the jingle man experiment. Stop in the middle of it. Comparing stories from abc, CBS and NBC. Deliver ending three by three. You've gotta have the jingle. I mean, that's the whole point.

[John C. Dvorak]

And of course the point of the three by three is that these guys can't do any independent reporting. It's all pretty much the same from different people. Here we go. Let's start with which he was just picking NBC.

[Adam Curry]

NBC.

[News Reporter]

The topic was shrouded in secrecy beforehand and security was tight. Some of the nation's most senior military leaders ordered to board buses at 3:30am and wait hours for the event to begin. According to defense officials.

[John C. Dvorak]

This speech today is about people and it's about culture.

[News Reporter]

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth telling generals and admirals who'd flown in from all over the world to get on board with a series of changes.

[Adam Curry]

If the words I'm speaking today are making your heart sink, then you should.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do the honorable thing and resign.

[News Reporter]

The new standards include new grooming rules that prohibit beards and a requirement that everyone in combat roles must meet the highest male standard for physical fitness. A change that could impact women in uniform.

[Adam Curry]

If that means no women qualify for some combat jobs, so be it.

[News Reporter]

He also plans to overhaul equal opportunity programs and the role of the inspector general. New recruits could also see changes lifting restrictions on how far drill instructors can go.

[Adam Curry]

They can swear and yes, they can put their hands on recruits. This does not mean they can be reckless or violate the law, but they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can use tried and true methods to.

[Adam Curry]

Motivate of terror new recruits.

[News Reporter]

Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling is concerned about the impact all of it may have on troops.

[John C. Dvorak]

To hear the kinds of things that came out of the secretary's mouth shows that he doesn't really respect them as contributors to the combat arms or fighting our nation's wars.

[News Reporter]

President Trump today endorsing Hegseth's speech and repeating his ultimatum.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kev, you don't like what I'm saying.

[Adam Curry]

You can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank.

[John C. Dvorak]

That goes your future in the president were highly political.

[News Reporter]

He also defended the use of troops in American cities.

[Adam Curry]

And I told Pete we should use.

[John C. Dvorak]

Some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military.

[Adam Curry]

Now a couple of things. First, observation and I'm quite sure the President will be mad about this. The continuous hum and buzz in the audio was just atrocious. It was across the board. The president does not like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he doesn't. He, he, he gets irked about it. He knows it's not good because it's not good for Clippage.

[Adam Curry]

The no agenda show. It's not good for the no agenda show, my boys. And the other just a local observation is when we elected a new sheriff here in Gillespie County. New sheriff, my buddy Mike, who you know Mike because I've talked about him. He is the former Kerval cop with anger management issues. Oh yes, he's now the lieutenant and the first thing he did was no beards and get rid of the Fat guts. It's like. It's like a thing. It's like this was not surprising to me. And let me tell you, when it comes to the Fredericksburg Police Department, although he has no jurisdiction over that, we're certainly over the sheriff's department. Yeah. We had fat sheriffs waddling around and it's like pt, everybody. Mandatory pt, Height and weight. We gotta get in shape and we gotta look good for the public. That seems like not a very crazy thing. But everyone was so upset about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

My. The thing they left out of that clippage was the Hegset going on about how embarrassing it is to have a bunch of fat admirals in the Pentagon.

[Adam Curry]

I have that clip for later if you want it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's go to. That was. It was NBC, abc.

[Adam Curry]

It is in an unprecedented former weekend Fox and Friends host broadcast live. I love this. I love. I actually. I think in my.

[John C. Dvorak]

Radnitz is over. She's. She's a drama queen.

[Adam Curry]

In my clip, I think they said Fox News weekend host. Did she say weekend host? Just to annihilate him in an unprecedented meeting which the former weekend Fox and Oh, yeah, weekend host. There it is.

[News Reporter]

Live Secretary Pete Hegseth warning hundreds of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Combat tested generals, admirals and senior officers.

[Adam Curry]

They're not all combat tested. I don't think that's true. Don't you? Can't you receive? No, of course not.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's impossible. Half of them are just desk jockeys.

[Adam Curry]

Flown in from around the world. That the military under his leadership will be dramatically changed. No more identity months DEI offices. Now, now. The audio is really bad. I could not get past it. Dudes in dresses. Yeah. No more climate change worship. No more division distraction or gender delusions.

[John C. Dvorak]

No more debris.

[Adam Curry]

We are done with that. While the generals and admirals sat largely.

[John C. Dvorak]

Silent through the speech, Hegseth said military fitness and standards will be enforced.

[Adam Curry]

No more fat generals or admirals, he said. I don't want my son serving alongside.

[John C. Dvorak]

Troops who are out of shape or.

[Adam Curry]

In combat unit with females who can't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meet the same combat arms physical standards as men.

[Adam Curry]

For those ground combat roles which women have been performing for more than a decade, the high male standard will now be the norm. If that means no women qualify for some combat jobs, so be it. But Hegseth was not just talking personnel, but policy.

[John C. Dvorak]

The rules of engagement meant to protect.

[Adam Curry]

Civilians and non combatants.

[John C. Dvorak]

Those, he said, have become too politically correct.

[Adam Curry]

We also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our war fighters. To intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country.

[John C. Dvorak]

President Trump then took the stage to address the officers. And if you don't like what I'm saying, you can leave the room.

[Adam Curry]

Of course, there goes your rank.

[John C. Dvorak]

That goes your future.

[Adam Curry]

Telling his audience of some of the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Most experienced war fighters in the generation.

[Adam Curry]

The military should practice on American cities. I told Pete we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military. The trolling still works. It's unbelievable. It still works. Yeah, we're going to throw them into the cities, man. We got trained there. Urban combat warfare. Trained in the cities. I would stop the show. I'm like, I'm sorry, generals. You got to wait for a second. We got a ground loop here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that the end of that clip?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, the end of the clip ended the same way as NBC. Did CBS do anything different?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, not gen. Not generally speaking, but cbs. I'm always pushing these toward the end because CBS is the one that's on the short leash. Been taken over by Paramount. So. So they're at the. It's like the. I'm going to get fired anyway. So let's just say what I feel like.

[Guest/Expert]

Nearly 800 of America's top military leaders.

[Adam Curry]

Were summoned from around the globe. Oh, he didn't use the war fighters meme. Disappointing apolitical officers who remained silent as their commander in chief took the stage.

[John C. Dvorak]

And offered this greeting.

[Adam Curry]

You can leave the room, of course. There goes your rank.

[John C. Dvorak]

That goes your future. That set the tone for more awkward moments to come.

[Adam Curry]

Did they all laugh when he said that? I keep. It sounds to me like they're laughing when he.

[John C. Dvorak]

I watched the thing and I didn't notice that they were laughing at the. At least the miking that I heard that may have been sweetened.

[Adam Curry]

I noticed everybody. No, ABC had it, too. They all had the same. Maybe it's just compressed noise, I don't know. Stage and offer this greeting. You can leave the room. Of course. There goes your rank.

[John C. Dvorak]

There goes your future. That set the tone for more awkward moments to come, including the President's suggestion.

[Adam Curry]

That dangerous US Cities like those where.

[John C. Dvorak]

National Guard are currently deployed should be used as training grounds for U.S. troops. This is going to be a major part for some of the people in this room.

[Adam Curry]

That's a war, too. It's a war from within.

[John C. Dvorak]

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth opened the meeting and ripped into diversity initiatives put in place by previous administrations.

[Adam Curry]

No more Identity Month.

[John C. Dvorak]

He said that the troops are going to be used in the cities as if it was a done deal when Trump just said it as kind of a joke, a troll. Yeah, but according to the cbs, no, that's what's gonna happen. Which was not asserted by anybody.

[Adam Curry]

No, but they did include the line, this is a war from within. Which to me was the entire reason for the change to the Department of War. Can we treat each state as an individual, like 60 Day does the timer reset for each state? We have a war. Just, just asking for a friend.

[John C. Dvorak]

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth opened the meeting and ripped into diversity initiatives put in place by previous administrations. No more identity months, DEI offices, dudes in dresses.

[Adam Curry]

No more climate change worship.

[John C. Dvorak]

No more division distraction or gender delusions. That includes, he said, a return to the highest male physical fitness standards. I don't want my son, male serving.

[Adam Curry]

Alongside troops who are out of shape or in combat unit with females who can't meet the same combat arms physical standards as men. And he took aim at the highest ranking officers. It's completely unacceptable to see fat generals and admirals in the halls of the Pentagon and leading commands around the country and the world. It's a bad look.

[John C. Dvorak]

Vermont Democrat Peter Welch said the meeting was unnecessary and a bad idea. It's a further effort to politicize the military. It's very, very alarming. There is no reason to bring all of these, these people at enormous taxpayer expense to Washington.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

To get a pep talk. Hegset told the audience they could disagree.

[Guest/Expert]

With them, but the words I'm speaking.

[Adam Curry]

Today are making your heart sink. Then you should do the honorable thing and resign. Well, it was interesting. I want to get all, all bent out of shape over that. Over the cost. Please Congress. Yeah, I know the cost of flying them all in. Congress takes military aircraft all the time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And the military aircraft are going there anyway.

[Adam Curry]

Hitch a ride.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hitch a ride.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there were a couple other things that took place around the military and this, and this meeting I think this is from. This is John berman from Anderson Pooper360. Some remarkable new report reporting tonight on Defense Secretary Pete Hex.

[John C. Dvorak]

Remarkable, remarkable battle with his remarkable new reporting.

[Adam Curry]

It's not just new reporting. It's not just reporting. It's remarkable new reporting. Some remarkable new reporting tonight on Defense Secretary Pete Hex's long running battle with his own staff and top advisors as well as the country's top military commanders. It comes by the way of the Washington Post. There's the headline, Pentagon plans widespread random polygraphs NDAs to staunch leaks, Random testing.

[John C. Dvorak]

And quoting from the report.

[Adam Curry]

All military service members, civilian employees and contract workers within the office of the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Defense Secretary and the Joint Staff, estimated.

[Adam Curry]

To be more than 5,000 personnel, would be required to sign a non disclosure agreement that prohibits the release of non public information without approval or through a defined process. What are we going to do for our sources? That's according to a draft memo from Deputy Defense Secretary Steve Feinberg. Now the policy is laid out. No, of course it's not new, but there's a kicker at the end. In a separate document also from Feinberg. Again, this is according to the Post, and this builds on earlier CNN reporting.

[John C. Dvorak]

That Secretary Hexseth had threatened then acting.

[Adam Curry]

Joint Chiefs Chairman Chris Grady with polygraph testing because he believed Admiral Grady was.

[Guest/Expert]

Leaking to undermine him.

[Adam Curry]

Also that his office had rolled out a policy earlier this year requiring Pentagon officials across the service to sign nine non disclosure agreements before being read in on project initiatives and other work products. And yes, it appears that all of this from us and from the Post was leaked. That's why it's remarkable. I get it. It was leaked. Now the president. The president also gave us an update. I'm not sure if this was before, during or after it was the same podium on the Golden Dome. You know, this is our security blanket all around the country. The Golden Dome, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we've begun construction on what we call the Golden Dome Missile defense sh. It'll be the most sophisticated in the world. You watched it do well until they had some problems at the end with.

[Adam Curry]

A little bit of a lack of ammunition. What is he talking about here? Did we miss an update that they had a little bit of a problem? Was there an attack that wasn't thwarted because we had a lack of ammunition?

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea what you're talking about. It must be inside stuff for people.

[Adam Curry]

I think. I think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like one of those little message you word to the wise kind of thing that we don't know defensive ammunition.

[Adam Curry]

But they've got that taken care of.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I tell you, it's what we're doing is so good and we deserve it. You know, we help other countries with it. We don't have it ourselves. And Canada called me a couple of weeks ago.

[Adam Curry]

They want to be part of it. To which I said, well, why don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

You just join our country? You become 51, become the 51st state and you get it for free.

[Adam Curry]

Free.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I don't know if that made.

[Adam Curry]

A big impact, but it does make a lot of sense. It actually makes.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're having a hard time up there. In Canada now because, you know, with tariffs, everyone's coming into our country.

[Adam Curry]

We have off script now more investment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Than we've ever had before. $17 trillion coming as an example. In four years, Biden didn't have 1 trillion.

[Adam Curry]

We have 17 trillion more than that in eight months. Coming in with my check.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they're coming in from Canada, Mexico, from Europe, from all over AI auto plants. Everybody's coming back to the United States.

[Adam Curry]

17 trillion. Okay, well that sounds, that sounds interesting. And then my favorite part of the summit was the stair bopping.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're witnessing the triumphant return of peace through strength.

[Adam Curry]

We have great peace through strength. America is respected again as a country.

[John C. Dvorak]

We were not respected with Biden. They looked at him falling downstairs. Every day.

[Adam Curry]

Every day the guy's falling downstairs, said, it's not our president, we can't have it. I'm very careful, you know, when I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Walk downstairs, I come on stairs like these stairs.

[Adam Curry]

I'm very, I walk very slowly. Nobody has to set a record. Just try not to fall because it doesn't work out. Well, I did laugh. A few of our presidents have fallen and it became a part of their legacy. We don't want that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you walk nice and easy.

[Adam Curry]

You're not having, you don't have to set any record. Be cool.

[John C. Dvorak]

Be cool when you walk down, but don't, don't bop down the stairs. So one thing with Obama, I had zero respect for him as a president, but he would bop down those stairs. I've never said that. He'd go down the stairs. Wouldn't.

[News Reporter]

Hold on.

[Adam Curry]

It's great. I don't want to do it. I guess I could do it, but eventually bad things are going to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it only takes once. But he did a lousy job as president.

[Adam Curry]

That just bafflingly funny, like just, you know, gives a shout out to Obama. I didn't have respect from his president, but man, he could walk stairs. That guy was great at walking stairs. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bopping down.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who was dancing up there?

[Adam Curry]

Was it President Ford who also tripped?

[John C. Dvorak]

Ford tripped more than once? Once. It happens twice.

[Adam Curry]

You're, you're done.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're toast. You're labeled, you're toast.

[Adam Curry]

You're labeled as a stair tripper. And then Reuters, fine North Sea Nexus outfit, came up with this little ditty.

[News Reporter]

Another part of the Pentagon's push to reshape the armed forces involves tapping Silicon Valley entrepreneurs who are turning their talents to military tech. That is the Bullfrog, an AI powered machine gun that tracks and Shoots down drones? No, it's built by Allen Control Systems, founded by Steve Simone, a former Silicon Valley star who sold his startup to DoorDash for $125 million. Defense and space reporter David Jeans has more now on the entrepreneurs creating the future of warfare.

[Adam Curry]

I think what they bring with them.

[Guest/Expert]

Is they have high tolerance for risk.

[Adam Curry]

A high tolerance for failure, and a.

[Guest/Expert]

High tolerance for raising hype around their companies.

[Adam Curry]

They also bring with them a new energy to this space, which has disrupted.

[Guest/Expert]

The traditional prime contractors like Boeing and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin.

[News Reporter]

David says that what's been most striking is the speed at which Silicon Valley has shifted.

[Adam Curry]

It was only in recent years that people were protesting military companies and military work.

[Guest/Expert]

And now Silicon Valley and its investors.

[Adam Curry]

Are all in on a more patriotic.

[John C. Dvorak]

And more military focused approach. I think that that has come with.

[Guest/Expert]

The understanding that the world is starting.

[John C. Dvorak]

To feel like a less safe place.

[Adam Curry]

And there's also an understanding that the US military is largely unprepared for the.

[Guest/Expert]

Future of warfare and that Silicon Valley believes that it has the answer to help it modernize.

[Adam Curry]

Well, what Silicon Valley also brings is the scam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, the scam angle, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And the scam. We've discussed this many times before, but the scam angle in Silicon Valley probably before the AI rush was we just got to get users while it's still the same, of course, with AI rush. Eyeballs, eyeballs, the eyeballs. We'll make it up on volume, don't worry about it. So right before the board meeting where you're about to ask for more money, you go to some of these companies called Monopoly and I forget all the names and you buy eyeballs and they, they come by your site and look at, look at these stats. We were hockey sticking, which are the writing up. We need more money. We need more money to be able to cover it. It's going great. So Silicon Valley, they're doing the scam and it's working out pretty well. Denmark is the main target because they've got the money, apparently.

[News Reporter]

Denmark is on high alert after reporting several drone incursions in recent weeks. 35 French soldiers are already on the ground. France, the US and Sweden have also sent anti drone systems. But for many Danes, the deployment only underlines their country's military vulnerability. Some residents are now bracing for the worst.

[Adam Curry]

Listen to this. Listen to this.

[News Reporter]

Sarah just bought one of the survival kits distributed by the Danish government.

[Adam Curry]

Literally, it is a water, a foldable water bag. It's a cracker and a radio flashlight.

[News Reporter]

Earlier in the year, people in the EU were advised to stockpile enough food, water and essentials for 72 hours, part of a strategy to increase readiness in the event of a military attack or other national crises. I got quite scared and I really.

[Adam Curry]

Wanted to do something.

[News Reporter]

I have a little less anxiety feeling. The anxiety isn't unfounded. Four times last week, two mysterious drones were spotted over military bases and airports, ports across the country. At the same time, three ships with Russian links were spotted coast. Investigations are ongoing, but authorities say they may have served as launch pads.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, drones.

[News Reporter]

The mothership is among Europe's biggest donors to Ukraine and also hosts a factory that produces fuel for its long range missiles.

[Adam Curry]

This is incredible. Bull crap. Silicon Valley scam.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have two clips on this.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let me play my, my final clip and then because the psyop is paying off, that's. Well, actually. What are your clips? What are your clips?

[John C. Dvorak]

These are from Morning Edition on npr.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah, good. Yeah, let's play these. This is good.

[John C. Dvorak]

And this is after the drones. And this is. I don't know how you can get. You know, the Danes are supposed to be the happiest people on Earth.

[Adam Curry]

Was that the Danes?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, it was the Danes or.

[Adam Curry]

The Norwegians, I can't remember.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no. The Norwegians are happy, but they're depressed. They take a. They're happy, they're happy, but it seems to me if they're happy, they're so happy and they. And they just turn on a dime into being like scared, afraid of their own shadow.

[Adam Curry]

I need a radio flashlight that with a hand crank.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the part one. The US and other countries in NATO have sent military troops and equipment to Denmark to protect its capital, while hosting meetings with European Union leaders starting today. Ukraine even sent some help too. A week of flights by unidentified drones caused fear that Russia might be involved, but no proof. Terry Schultz reports from Copenhagen that many Danes are rethinking their personal security.

[News Reporter]

The Danish government still can't say who staged the mysterious drone flights. Every day and night for a week.

[Adam Curry]

It'S a script now. Mysterious drone flights. It's the same as my clip. It's all mysterious. With ship, maybe launched from ships with links to Russia sausage links with NATO.

[News Reporter]

Allies and Ukrainian experts now rushing to protect the capital, it's harder to tell people not to be afraid. Instead, Justice Minister Peter Homogaard warns them this is their new reality.

[Adam Curry]

We will be in a situation that is also similar to this one. Again, that is the nature of hybrid warfare.

[News Reporter]

For Trin, a hotel receptionist the drones have already caused too many sleepless nights. We agreed not to share last names of people we spoke to because we.

[Adam Curry]

Couldn'T pronounce him anyway, given the widespread panic.

[News Reporter]

I live very near the airport, so every night these helicopters and stuff are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Going around and around.

[Adam Curry]

I really need to sleep. I have to around my house all night.

[News Reporter]

She's not the only one whose nerves are afraid.

[Adam Curry]

Everybody's talking about it.

[News Reporter]

Are they worried?

[Adam Curry]

Very worried. I am. My kids are, my family are. We make these emergency plans. What do we do? So we actually we prepped, we prepared.

[News Reporter]

That meant, she said, checking their canned food supply, stocking up on water and reviewing their plan with other family members in case physical evacuation is needed.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man. I have. Before we play the second clip, I have a boots on the ground from one of our producers, Paul, in Denmark. First of all, Copenhagen is gridlocked and helicopters are flying overhead all the time because of the stupid EU summit. They're all at Christiansborg, the Parliament Palace. So Schlotzholmen is closed off. And then some stuff is happening in Friedrichstadt, where Amalienborg and a lot of organizations, embassies are. Conversations with people the last few days gave me the following points. Nobody believes anything. So I don't know where they got these Danes, but nobody believes anything because the leaders, Marie Mete Fredriksen and Lars Locker Ramusen, all point to Russia straight away. While police and defense forces still maintain they don't know who it was, an organized crime is an actual possibility. So it's like, you know, I don't know where they got these scared Danes from, but that doesn't seem to be the boots on the ground situation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is the messaging that they're trying to do then.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this has been orchestrated. You have clips. You had a clip of it? I got two clips of it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let me.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's somebody behind it for a reason. We don't know what the reason is.

[Adam Curry]

Oh no, we do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course there's sell more junk.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[News Reporter]

EU leaders that gathered in Copenhagen on Wednesday gave broad support to proposals to ramp up the development of drone and anti drone technology. Ahead of the meeting, the European Commission released a document which outlines four projects that it believes need to be financed and implemented as a matter of urgency.

[Adam Curry]

We need money right away. We're all here meeting anyway. It's not a coincidence. The drones and mysterious drones launched from ships that have links to Russia. We need money.

[News Reporter]

The summit and proposal come. US Europe faced a series of airspace violations in recent weeks.

[Adam Curry]

So we have to create a European ecosystem that will enable Europe to develop cutting edge drone solutions. Yeah. Inspired by what they are doing in.

[News Reporter]

Ukraine already, the leaders also discussed a proposal which outlines the use of immobilized Russian assets to loan money to Ukraine. Under the plan, Ukraine would repay the loan after Moscow agrees to compensate for damage. Oh, sure, commission would repay Euroclear, which would repay Russia. We are not confiscating the assets, but we are taking the cash balances for loan to Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

Ukraine has to pay back this loan.

[News Reporter]

If Russia pays reparations. The plan earned broad support, but was met with resistance by Belgian Prime Minister Berto Bevis. Von der Leyen sought to assure his reservations and clarified, Belgium cannot be the only member state to carry risks.

[Adam Curry]

They've had their eye on this money for so long, they want this money so bad, they finally have figured out a way and it's, it's the best plan ever. We'll slush fund it through Ukraine. We'll put it in our pockets because what are we really talking about? Some jamming devices? These are all little tiny dumb drones. And, you know, the 803 maybe get through. So it doesn't, it doesn't seem like we already need, we already have some kind of defenses. And oh, by the way, if this whole thing comes to an end, Ukraine's on the hook. You guys pay for it. We're going to take it. This is theft. To me, it seems obvious they're stealing this money, but, you know, we're not, we're not taking Russia's money. No, we're just loaning it to Ukraine. But, you know, if there's a ceasefire, if there's a peace deal, Ukraine will pay it back from Russia's own money, from their own reparations. Give me a break.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is, it's great. It's such a scam.

[Adam Curry]

It's how you do it, I guess. It's like, wow. Come on, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is creative bookkeeping.

[Adam Curry]

Very creative. Very, very creative. All right, do we need play your other Morning Edition clip or are we good?

[John C. Dvorak]

But the other one. There's the two about. Oh, Pfizer, about the drones. The other ones are different. If you want to play.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, the other drones.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's changing the topic.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay.

[News Reporter]

Like other Nordic governments, Denmark urges citizens to store enough supplies to survive am minimum of three days with no access to electricity, food or fresh water. Since the drones first appeared, what do.

[Adam Curry]

They expect to happen? And how, how is this going to stop the drones? I've got, at least I've Got water. At least I got a candy bar and a flashlight radio.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's silly.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, and the fact that. Give me a Starlink or something, you know, this is dumb.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that would be usable.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[News Reporter]

Food or fresh water. Since the Drones first appeared September, 20 seem to be taking the recommendations more seriously than before. A home goods store in a Copenhagen suburb. Sales associate Peter Sandel said 20 liter containers of water were going fast, like hotcakes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Warning, we have this, this and this full.

[News Reporter]

Alejandra and Alexander snagged the last camping stove on the store's shelf. They said until now they'd half heartedly find the government advice on stockpiling. But the airspace incursions were a wake up call. We bought like the older water and all that was before the drones.

[John C. Dvorak]

So now with the drones, we were.

[Adam Curry]

Like, we need to get the last stuff. It's on the list.

[News Reporter]

It's been a jolt for Danish authorities as well, says Jakob Hallgren with the Swedish Institute of International Affairs. Sweden also went through a period like this shortly after the start of Russia's full scale war on Ukraine, he explains, and invested a lot in renovating and expanding its network of bomb shelters. Hallgren advises the government to do the same.

[Adam Curry]

Living in Denmark, you might have kind of thought that you were shielded from these developments, but this is obviously no longer the case. So if they haven't, it's really high time to make sure that those shelters are repaired and that there is proper.

[John C. Dvorak]

Information about where you can find them.

[News Reporter]

In the meantime, Trina says she knows what she'd like to do about those disruptive drones. She joked to her policeman husband she'd like to borrow one of his weapons.

[Adam Curry]

And then my daughter, she's 20.

[News Reporter]

She emphasizes she was kidding, but she hopes the Danish government does decide to shoot the drones down if they show up again.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man, you know what? I can almost predict what's going to happen next. President Trump is going to come out with, well, you got to give us Greenland if you want to be safe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Great, that's a good one.

[Adam Curry]

Can almost.

[John C. Dvorak]

That would be a terrific move.

[Adam Curry]

But, you know, you want to be safe. Like, we can expand the golden dome to Greenland and we'll give you a little annex over to Denmark. This is, I mean, well, I don't believe that. I think they've just got a bunch of numb nuts because of our boots on the grounds. Like, no one believes it. They all think it's bull crap. The drones have flashing red lights. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do if I'M Russia. I'm gonna send a mysterious drone over and announce it with a big flashing red light. I'm a drone. I'm a drone. I'm a drone.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, the funny thing is about it is they're all freaked out about the bomb shelters and all the rest. And like the clip we played in the last show where they talk about The Russians launched 900 drones into Ukraine and three people were killed. And I brought up. I keep bringing up this lack of consistency with or logic. You said 900 drones to kill three people. What is Denmark worried about?

[Adam Curry]

They got enough people.

[John C. Dvorak]

How many people do they have, what their population is? But it doesn't matter with four or five drones compared to 900.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it seems. Seems rather.

[John C. Dvorak]

And what. And they're worried that what they think the drone. They're going to attack Copenhagen.

[Adam Curry]

Why? Well, because they have a monarchy, you know, North Sea Nexus, they're under attack. I mean, I really have no idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

And by the way, that stupid clip you played earlier about that, you know that automated machine gun with that uses AI Pop the drones out of this guy. That thing will take out a flock of geese and it'll become the most controversial product ever. Oh, look at this. 100 geese. They're all dead. They're trying to go down south.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I hadn't thought about that. But it's. I mean, isn't it obvious?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's gonna definitely kill birds.

[Adam Curry]

But isn't it obvious to people that the European Union meets in Copenhagen? I don't even know why they would go there. They've got offices.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pretty town.

[Adam Curry]

That's why they got offices in Luxembourg. They got offices in Belgium.

[John C. Dvorak]

Copenhagen is one of the prettiest. If anyone wants to travel, they speak a lot of English. There's. And Copenhagen is one of the prettiest towns in the world.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. So they went there for a fun time and then they brought out some drones. I could have flown that drone over the airport. Who knows who's doing that? It's the same thing as the New Jersey drones. It could be some jokers launched from the Chinese mothership. And we fell for it. I mean, we didn't, but we didn't fall for it. But the. The people on the east coast did. Oh, yeah, we want to know.

[John C. Dvorak]

But they didn't panic like these guys.

[Adam Curry]

They weren't getting water and diving into the bomb shelters. No water and radio, flashlight radios. Come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

The hand crank. The hand crank.

[Adam Curry]

Hand crank. Of course, of course. Someone had a. China had another stockpile of those. Throw them out, give them to them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gotta get rid of these things.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the psyops are good today. I mean, I'll kind of just take a little, a little detour, just a quick one with two clips because we identified these psyops taking place through discord.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yes. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And, and it's, it's now everywhere they even have a name. And although they don't mention discord in this first report, they flash on the screen a discord login. Listen to this. This is Morocco. After our crowd disperses in the city of Wedgeda in the northeast of Morocco, a police van drives straight into pro protesters, injuring one of them. An incident that happened on the fourth day of national protests which show no sign of dying down. Initial peaceful gatherings called for a reform of the education system and improvements to health care. But protesters say the government has been neglecting. Protesters by now greater in number on Tuesday night clashed with security forces in several cities across the country. Demonstration threw stones at police who responded with dozens of arrests. Here, close to Agadir, vehicles were overturned or set alight. Violence that Morocco's association for the Defence of Human Rights condemned.

[News Reporter]

The violence and oppression we've seen in the past few days are really unprecedented. For the first time since at least the 1980s, the youth can't even protest. They're being repressed, dispersed before they can even assemble and chant their slogans.

[Adam Curry]

The protest movement's organizers, the little known collective Gen Z212 have also called for CAM. And in a communique issued on Tuesday night, Morocco's coalition government said it would listen to the protesters demands and that it was willing to respond in a positive and responsible manner. So this is the new group, Gen Z212. They activate these kids on discord and they're doing the same thing in Madagascar.

[News Reporter]

Under mounting pressure from the streets, Madagascar president and Razawal says he's dissolving the government. The leader forced to take action after several days of protests across the country.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe we haven't lived up to your expectations or listened to your cries or your fears.

[News Reporter]

What began as a youth led movement against frequent power and water cuts quickly grew into a larger wave of discontent.

[Adam Curry]

The President just keeps lying.

[News Reporter]

He doesn't listen to us. All we want is for him to step down.

[Adam Curry]

We want change. Change and hope.

[News Reporter]

At the forefront of the movement is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gen Z. Gen Z.

[News Reporter]

Despite the violent crackdowns, bloody clashes with police, leaving several dead and dozens injured, the young protesters are vowing to continue accusing others of taking advantage of the unrest.

[Adam Curry]

Now listen to this.

[John C. Dvorak]

We were peaceful. We were singing, shouting, calling for our rights, the right to live.

[Adam Curry]

But then some people took advantage of.

[John C. Dvorak]

The situation and others acted out, not really following the Gen Z movement's peaceful approach.

[News Reporter]

Despite its abundance of natural resources, Madagascar remains one of the poorest countries in the world with three quarters of the population living below the poverty line.

[Adam Curry]

Gen Z. Gen Z. This is it. This is the new Arab Spring. Oh, we need bread. We don't have any bread. This is Gen Z212. This is an op. And the Madagascar government, the President dismissed the government over it. Oh well, listen to these Gen Zers. The Gen Zers. Oh yeah, they're in control now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Please, we have a Discord thing happening.

[Adam Curry]

Here in San Francisco or in your house.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, San Francisco is where Discord is.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but you could, you can set up your own Discord server. You don't need to be part of the Discord company. It's. I think it's, isn't it just open source software at this point?

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, you know, the whole thing seems like an intel op to me, but.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

People Sick day. Play this clip. This is the, this is the latest because I. Because I guess blackout didn't go anywhere.

[Adam Curry]

People Sick day.

[News Reporter]

What if millions of us stopped working, stopped spending and stopped producing all at the same time. There's a movement brewing. It's called, called the people Sick day. And what it is is a three day economic blackout. That means no work, no shopping, no production. Just pause. Three days where we remind the system that without us, nothing moves. But here's the twist. We're not giving out the dates until 48 hours before because we don't want to give the corporations time to plan and stop us from having this happen. Because let's be honest, if they knew what we were planning, they'd shut it down down before it even started. This isn't a protest. This is a strategic disruption to the machine that feeds off of our hard work and labor. If you want to be a part of it, go to the peoplesickday.com, join the Discord and join the movement. This is how we stand up against what is happening in our country. We need to shut it down. We need to shut it down. So go to the people. Peoplesickday.com Sign up for the Discord and you can get more information there.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Discord is, it's open source. You can set up your own Discord. And it feels so, you know, like underground. This Tick Tock is rife with people talking about the people's discord let's see what this is.

[News Reporter]

Chronically ill Discord.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, she's just chronically ill. Okay, never mind. She's not people sick. She's chronically ill Discord, man. That's. That's the thing. It is an op. An op machine. We made discord for gamers like ourselves. But other engineers have found it to be a great tool. I'll bet it. I'll bet they do. And it's so easy. These kids are all hopped up on medication anyway. Psyopam. These gen zers zetters. Gen Z212 it's. It's a new world, John.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the same old world.

[Adam Curry]

Same old world.

[John C. Dvorak]

But now they just keep moving the goalposts.

[Adam Curry]

Now we're just supposed to hate our children? Now we hate our children. Gen Z. I hate you, child. You're my child. I hate you. You're ruining everything with your people. Sick day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gen Z People's sick day. People just gonna go nowhere.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, of course not, because they don't have the agitators in place like they do in these other countries. And also they're not cutting the power. I'm sure that doesn't help.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, yeah, you got to cut the power.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's the best way.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I have a couple. Just as a little side bit, I got a couple of AI clips here.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not AI clips, but AI versions of. You know, they're starting to. I don't know if you followed the sombrero scandal.

[Adam Curry]

How could I not?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's possible.

[Adam Curry]

One of the funniest when I mentioned.

[John C. Dvorak]

The meme is she said. What are you talking about?

[Adam Curry]

Really? Well, she's busy running for city council, so.

[John C. Dvorak]

And if anyone hasn't heard the original, now this is not safe for work.

[Adam Curry]

Oh. Woo.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the AI Schumer. This is what started it off. This was the original one. This has got a. Oh, no beeps.

[Adam Curry]

No beeps.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's no beeps.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

This has got Schumer standing next to Jeffries, who's wearing a sombrero with a big mustache. Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it.

[Adam Curry]

Nobody likes Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all of our woke trans bullshit. Not even black people want to vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need new voters. And if. If we give all these illegal aliens free health care, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us. They can't even speak English, so they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke pieces of shit, you know, at least for a while until they. They learn English and they realize they hate us too. You know, now I'm really realizing how poor a job of AI that is. It doesn't even sound remotely like Schumer.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it does.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no. They trained it on his voice. I don't think so at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

And there's a. After that ran, there was a bunch of press conferences about what a scandal this is and how terrible racist the Trump administration is. And Schumer was bent out of shape about. He felt very upset. And it's gone to the point where now Vance is going to be giving out red sombreros that say make America great again. And so there was a. The last thing that came out is this, which is the AI Vance. This is Vance with a sombrero on. But this is. Again, this is all fake. It's not Vance and the sombrero's junk. I mean, just phony looking thing. And this is what he did.

[Adam Curry]

Okay? Esto is mucho simple. El Democrat Party is mucho retardo, okay? Mucho retardo.

[John C. Dvorak]

Especially El Hachimo Jeffries, El Chuco Schumer.

[Adam Curry]

They are extra retardo.

[John C. Dvorak]

So el presidente and I cannot negotiate with these Democrat retardo.

[Adam Curry]

It's impossibili.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mucho imposibile. Gracias, amigos. Oh, and make sure you el voto for LJD vanso in EL 2028.

[Adam Curry]

The whole thing, and the funny part is, is that the whole shutdown is really playing right into President Trump's cards. I mean, this is part of doge. Like we're gonna. We're gonna riff people, people, reduction in force. It's almost like it was planned and they took the bait.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, they've been doing. That's kind of consistent taking the bait.

[Adam Curry]

That's just like, wow. Don't you see it? Well, I have especially.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they like to play the old clips. I didn't make a. I didn't. This is all over the place. But there's a collection of Schumer clips that goes back to 2009 where he goes on and on about how stupid it is to shut down the government and he would never do it and blah, blah, blah. And it's one clip after another of him saying pretty much the same thing, which is the same crazy to shut down the government. It's just something the Republicans want to do. We would never do it. I would never vote for this. And he just. On and On. And I guess according to some reports, Mike Johnson had a reel of all these Democrats saying pretty much the same thing that he had running outside of his office on a monitor. Just a bunch of, you know, super cut after another. Mm.

[Adam Curry]

I have a couple of shutdown theater clips which I think are probably relevant. This is going back to the pooper box.

[News Reporter]

We believe that layoffs are imminent. They are, unfortunately, consequence of this government shutdown.

[Adam Curry]

In fact, that's not normally a consequence of government shutdowns. Furloughs are. So is working without pay.

[Guest/Expert]

But typical or not, the White House.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is doing it in. The House speaker today defended it.

[Adam Curry]

Look, if Russell. Russell has to make tough decisions, whoever is the director of the Austin Management and Budget, in a scenario like this has to make tough choices.

[News Reporter]

We're talking about permanently firing people.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm not sure that hasn't happened before, but if the authority is there and he sees a program that is wasting taxpayer dollars, you and I could both agree the government doesn't do everything in the most efficient way.

[News Reporter]

I mean, constitutionally, that's your job. Article 1.

[Adam Curry]

That is your job. It is until Chuck Schumer decides to hand the keys to the president, which is literally what he's doing. Boom, there it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's great.

[Adam Curry]

That's exactly what happened. It was, like, played right into it. It's unbelievable. And of course, it's sad because a lot of people will lose their jobs. I think we're gonna see hundreds of thousand reduction in force, which is. If you look at the Doge executive order, it's like, all in play. It was very odd. So you have another one here. The administration is also using the crisis to either pause or cancel billions of dollars in already appropriated spending in Blue.

[John C. Dvorak]

States, including 18 billion for two big.

[Adam Curry]

Mass transportation projects here in New York. Vice President Vance was asked about that today. Does announcing that today mean that you guys are going to squeeze Chuck Schumer's home state until he blinks?

[John C. Dvorak]

Look, I haven't talked to Russ about this this morning, but look, I'm sure that Russ is heartbroken about the fact that he is unable to give certain things to certain constituencies.

[Adam Curry]

The Russ he is referring to is Russell Vogt, the White House budget director. The vice president was also asked about the racist AI videos of Minority Leader Jeffries. The president has been posting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Posting on social media.

[Adam Curry]

This is the latest from today. Is it helpful to post pictures of Leader Jeffries and sombrero if you're trying to have good faith talks with him? Oh, I think it's funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

The President's joking, and we're having a good time. You can negotiate in good faith while also poking a little bit of fun at some of the absurdities of the Democrats positions and even, you know, poking some. Some fun at the absurdity of the Democrats themselves.

[Adam Curry]

With thousands of federal workers now either working without pay, not working at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or even facing layoffs and millions of.

[Adam Curry]

Americans not able to access federal services, it's hard to see this as an opportunity to, as the Vice President said, be having a good time. But there it is. What I'm missing in all of these reports, where's your Mexican Americans who are all mad about this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's not mad about it. No, of course, of course.

[Adam Curry]

That's the whole point. It's like they can't even find one Mexican to say.

[John C. Dvorak]

You think they'd find one Mexican, pay.

[Adam Curry]

One Mexican to say it? It's racist. Here's the continuation of this. So we played sound from Vice President Vance, not just defending that AI racist video of manure leader Jeffries wearing a sombrero, but also, like, celebrating that video. And it was playing on a loop in the briefing room today. What are you hearing from the inside about that?

[News Reporter]

It was not only just playing on a loop in the briefing room. If, if you've never been in the press briefing room. For those who haven't, there are loudspeakers overhead so you can hear announcements or what's being said or if there is an event going on with the President in the Rose Garden, for example, they were playing that mariachi music as well over the loudspeakers for all the press that was coming in and out of the White House today inside the press briefing room. It just kind of gives you a window, Jon, into how they're dealing with this and how they believe they have the upper hand when it comes to the messaging here. And there's a moment here, they're being heavily criticized over this, over these posts by the President, by Democrats. And instead of backing off or apologizing for it, they're leaning into it and they're playing the music over loudspeakers and on repeat inside the briefing room because they simply don't care about that criticism.

[Adam Curry]

It's like playing Metallica outside the Taliban enemy camp. You know, it's like, come on, this is so tip. We've even done it. You know what? Remember this? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

He latest podcast with some. With her shrink.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, goodness, I must have missed it. What did she say?

[John C. Dvorak]

She goes on a rampage about how the. Her and the girls and especially her just couldn't take it because the way Barack chewed.

[Adam Curry]

Really?

[John C. Dvorak]

That they went on and on about it.

[Adam Curry]

You're at the end of your marriage when that's. When that's irritating.

[John C. Dvorak]

No kidding.

[Adam Curry]

That's kind of.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't get it. He's just. It's disgusting. She says to watch him chew.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. I remember my second wife, as it was ending, she got mad because the way I clinked my spoon into the bowl of cereal. That's so annoying.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. That is when a woman is, like.

[Adam Curry]

Fed up at the end. She's at the end. It's done.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. This is what's going on here. And in fact, they had to replay that clip on Gutfeld when Drew Pinsky was on, and he said exactly what you just said. He says, this sounds like the end of the relationship when things like chewing drive you nuts. Where the guy chews. I mean, come on.

[Adam Curry]

Here's a CBC report on the racist deepfakes.

[News Reporter]

The fight has become deeply personal after President Donald Trump posted AI videos on social media attacking his opponents. One video shows Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic House leader, wearing a Photoshopped sombrero and mustache while an AI Schumer makes derogatory comments. Comments about black and Latino voters. Jeffries called it fake and racist.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I think it's funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

The president's joking and we're having a good time.

[News Reporter]

The vice President says good faith negotiations can take place in this environment. Dismissing concerns.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hakeem Jeffries said it was racist. And I know that he said that, and I honestly don't even know what that means.

[News Reporter]

This is symbolic of the bitterness of this moment with no sign a resolution is in the near future. Future.

[Adam Curry]

Do you remember when I think, with Trump's first term, he had some Native Americans in the Oval Office, and he was like, you know, we've got a. We've got Pocahontas in Congress. Do you remember that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Only vaguely.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Be nice to have a clip of it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm actually looking. I don't think so, but it was. It was fun.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I got some government shutdown clips.

[Adam Curry]

And what I'd like to know before we get to your clips, does this bother government employees? We have a lot of them listening that this jokery is going on. I don't think so yet. Because it started October 1st. Checks aren't until the 15th. I presume they get paid every two weeks, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

I think so. Here's air traffic controller. I'm an air traffic controller in the western US A lot of confusion regarding the government shutdown and atc. By law, ATC must operate. Controllers must show up to work even during a shutdown. The FAA has emergency funding through Thursday night at midnight in the event the shutdown isn't over by then. After that, the agency and controllers will be operating on an iou. By law, all federal employees will receive back pay once the government reopens. During the last shutdown in 2019, controllers missed two paychecks. On the last day of the $0 paycheck, about 10 controllers at the critical Jacksonville center called off sick, causing severe delays. There were also excessive sick outs at other key facilities. Since controllers now know that we can use sick leave without being charged. There's no incentive to come to work if we're not going to get paid anyway. Our union, natca, is spineless us and basically begging us to do the right thing and not call up sick. I predict once funding runs out on Friday, there will be mass sickouts, crippling airlines, forcing Congress to do their job and pass a spending bill reopening the government. You're servant of the skies and master of the microphone. So that's no one mad about the sombrero?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, nobody's gonna get mad about the sombrero except Jeffries and Schumer.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Yeah, they're the targets. Same with customs, border patrol, boots on the ground. We were told to come to work tomorrow no matter what. We are HR and in charge of onboarding. A few days ago, they were designating just three or four employees to come in and bring new hires on board. As of now, though, we're all going to work. We will get a paycheck for September 22nd through the 30th and get back pay for the rest later. But the shutdown will only really negatively impact us if the shutdown goes through October 24th. Fourth. So, you know, we have some time here for the more sombrero videos.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's only five. The difference is five Democrats. If they can get five, which is not a lot, five moderates to feel the pressure and then change their vote. And the next thing you know, it's done. So that shouldn't take too long. I don't think they're pushing it right now because I think they do want to do what you said, which is entrap the. The Democrats so they can start firing people. But let's go with this government shutdown. This is from npr.

[Adam Curry]

You've got a series. Oh, goodness.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm sorry. No, this is from ntd. So it's more. More. It's more anal.

[Adam Curry]

More anal.

[News Reporter]

Day one of government shutdown. Senate Democrats blocked a procedural vote to reconsider a stopgap bill to reopen the government. Our Washington correspondent Luis Aroro Martin Martinez has the latest on the story.

[John C. Dvorak]

Republicans thought that they could barrel us.

[Adam Curry]

Into a shutdown because they didn't want to protect the health care of the American people. Well, now they've seen they can't bully.

[John C. Dvorak]

Us, they can't barrel us.

[Adam Curry]

They don't have the votes to push their partisan bill through that did nothing to protect American health care.

[John C. Dvorak]

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has maintained his maximalist demands. Despite that, members of his conference have.

[Adam Curry]

Already shown opposition to hold government funding hostage. We were elected to solve the problems of this country, not make them worse. And that's exactly what Donald Trump and his Republican henchmen are seeking to do. Does that language still work? His. His henchmen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Henchmen. By the way, what does it say? Why did you barrel me? What is he talking? What barrel? Oh, the Republicans are trying to barrel us. What? What?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

What does that mean? Have you ever heard that phrase before? Or that wordage?

[Adam Curry]

Like that term barrel. Like what is it? Stretch over a barrel, pull us up, put us over a barrel. Over a barrel? Like I haven't heard it in this way.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I think it just came to him. He said it once and he had to say it again. He's an idiot. Let's play part two. It is now a messaging war. And despite the fact that Congress holds.

[Adam Curry]

The power of the purse, Democrats are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Blaming President Trump for the shutdown. Republicans maintain their willingness to negotiate with Democrats, their extension of Affordable Care act health care tax credits that they are demanding.

[News Reporter]

This is not the time to take the American.

[John C. Dvorak]

You meant to back up. I thought I heard him say the horrible Care act people, their willingness to negotiate with Democrats, their extension of Affordable Care act health care tax credits that they are demanding.

[Adam Curry]

Now, I would just stop here for a second. So what exactly are they talking about? Because the Republicans say, say, well, they just want free health care for illegal immigrants. And the Democrats are saying that your Obamacare, your affordable Health, Affordable Care act premiums will go up over 100%. Which one do you understand to be true?

[John C. Dvorak]

If either the Republican position is true. For one thing, the change in any of the Obamacare stuff doesn't take place till after this continuing resolution is already already done.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it's not even within this period. So that's, that's bull crap.

[Adam Curry]

And the fact is not until 2026. Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that's nonsense. And so the other thing is, is it's obvious that because they've said it. I mean, Maxine Waters said it and this, what that Indian guy said it, that they want to keep up payments, top notch health care for the illegal immigrants.

[Adam Curry]

Maxine Waters said it like that, that.

[John C. Dvorak]

She'S, she was, they had like, it was. What's his name, the pillow guy, has.

[Adam Curry]

His little TV network, Mike Lindell, the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pillow, Mike Lindell's tv. And they had some girl hounding Maxine, harassing her, basically going on and on and on, and then got her, Maxine, to say, isn't this just for health care for illegals? And then she kept hounding her and Maxine got pissed off. She says, look, look, we want health care for everybody, period. And walked off.

[Adam Curry]

Hmm.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that's what it's about. It's about premium health care.

[Adam Curry]

I have, I have the clip. I have the clip. I have the clip. Hold on. Maxine Waters snapped when a reporter asked her about Democrats forcing a government shutdown over health care for illegal immigrants. Which is weird because usually she loves talking about giving away immediately other people's money. We're Americans.

[John C. Dvorak]

Quit it. Stop it. This is the kind of journalism we don't need.

[Adam Curry]

You're divisive. No, you're not.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're being divisive. No, please don't. You don't need to ask that question. You're just trying to get controversy here. You're not going to get it for me.

[Adam Curry]

We want to save health care for all people. Thank you. Thank you, Congresswoman Maxine. For all people. Yeah, all people healthcare. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that's. So the Republicans are right.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, we continue.

[News Reporter]

This is not the time to take the American people hostage. The ACA credits don't run out until December. But the best way to do that is to open the government. And let's get back to this thing called regular order. So we can have those debates, we can have those committee hearings, we can have those negotiations.

[Adam Curry]

Senate Republicans are focusing their messaging on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Moderate Democrats, calling on them to vote for the continuing resolution to reopen government. Four more Democrats are needed to do so. She don't think it's going to be that long of a shutdown this is a pure guess from the vice president, United States, because I think you already saw some evidence that moderate Democrats are cracking a little bit. They understand the fundamental illogic of this.

[Adam Curry]

Chuck Schumer, at the behest of a bunch of liberal far left activist groups, has walked his Democrat colleagues into a boxed canyon.

[John C. Dvorak]

The continuing resolution that House Republicans pass.

[Adam Curry]

And Senate Republicans support extends levels of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Government funding set by Democrats during the Biden administration. Republicans have also chosen not to enact the spending cuts proposed by the Department of Government Efficiency.

[Adam Curry]

Ultimately, Democrats have already voted for current.

[John C. Dvorak]

Levels of government funding 13 times in the past.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So this is kind of nuts. Let's go to part three.

[News Reporter]

Good evening, Mari. What is the White House saying about the government shutdown? Tiff, Good evening. Yes, the White House is blaming Democrats for the government shutdown, saying that it impacts active duty troops, critical food assistance and flood insurance as we enter hurricane season. And Vice President J.D. vance today is saying this at a surprise appearance at the White House press briefing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Watch. Whatever those disagreements are, you don't shut down the government over it. For the first time since the Democrats have been in politics, they're now saying that unless we get every policy item that we demand, we're going to shut down the people's government. They're trying to take a hostage and we're not going to let them.

[News Reporter]

The White House website featuring a government shutdown clock and the press secretary leaving this message on the White House comment line. Thank you for calling the White House comment line. Democrats in Congress have shut down the federal government because they care more about funding health care for illegal immigrants than they care about serving you. Meanwhile, Vice President Vance says he doesn't think the shutdown will be long. He's calling on more moderate Democrats today to join Republicans in voting to keep the government open.

[John C. Dvorak]

So three moderate Democrats joined 52 Republicans, Republicans last night. We need five more.

[News Reporter]

While Republicans have offered a clean short term budget bill, the White House criticizing Democrats for holding the economy hostage for what it calls free health care for illegal immigrants. Though Democrats say that's not what they're demanding.

[John C. Dvorak]

Political leadership of their party has got it into their heads that the only way to be compassionate is to be compassionate to illegal aliens rather than American citizens. No, the law, the law is clear.

[Adam Curry]

That no Medicaid, no Medicare, no ACA can go to any undocumented immigrants. So Fetterman voted for the continuing resolution. Cortez Mastro from Nevada and King from Maine. That's interesting. That. Man, they must be hating. Fetterman right now turns out to be a pretty. Pretty funny dude.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Everyone's surprised by that. You see, he's actually kind of down to earth.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. When he had the stroke, that's when he became a Democrat. Then that kind of ebbed away, and then he became normal again. Says something, doesn't it?

[John C. Dvorak]

I got part four. You play.

[News Reporter]

And Tiff, I don't know if you've seen this, but the White House has been replaying this meme in the briefing room. It's a post that President Trump originally put on his Truth Social of House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries in a sombrero.

[Adam Curry]

Don't cop out through a racist and fake AI video. When I'm back in the Oval Office. Say it to my face.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hakeem Jeffries said it was racist, and I know that he said that, and.

[Adam Curry]

I honestly don't even know what that means.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like, is. Is. Is he a Mexican American that is offended by having a sombrero meme? The President's joking, and we're having a good time.

[News Reporter]

Vice President Vance says he makes the solemn promise to stop the sombrero memes if Hakeem helps reopen the government.

[Adam Curry]

Back to you. We're gonna sombrero meme you, bro.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stop this sombrero memes.

[Adam Curry]

It's notable that Vance is really the mouthpiece for this. President Trump is. You know, he just reposted. What? And by the way, if that was an AI Meme, someone needs to turn their large language mod. It wasn't all that great.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they're talking about the AI part was Schumer's voice.

[Adam Curry]

Right. Well, even.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, the rest of it, that wasn't. I mean, even when the. The. The one with Vance, which we played, had the sombrero on his head, the sombrero was fixed.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So when Jeffries with his sombrero, when he turned. It's like the sombrero didn't move at all. It was just stuck on the frame. It's bull crap. It's very poorly done, to be honest.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, but. But Vance is the. Is the mouthpiece that. That's noticeable. Noticeable. Noticeable. I just think that's notable. Let's put it that way. Vance is the one that's doing the talking here. Of course. He's.

[John C. Dvorak]

He seems to be the. The point man for the. For the sombrero.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, Vance, you take the sombrero stuff. I'm. I'm gonna go to. I'm gonna go get Greenland.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll get Greenland. You get Jeffries.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Wow, that's. That's pretty incredible. Okay, so I predict two weeks. What do you think?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it might not even go that long. I mean, the last time during Trump's first term, they did have a one year. It was a month.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it took a month. I remember.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that was the longest ever. So who knows?

[Adam Curry]

Back to AI, but hold on one second. They're gonna have to give on something.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, the Republicans.

[Adam Curry]

No. Yeah, they'll have to give the Democrats.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they don'.

[Adam Curry]

You think the Democrats will just fold because of the sombrero? Like.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they're gonna fold because they're gonna get some they don't need. But the four votes they say I thought was five was four. And it's just the same funding that's been going on. There's no reason to change anything. They're supposed to change when you actually do a bill. Not the continuing resolution. Just keep spending the same money. Yeah, there's no reason to change.

[Adam Curry]

Well, so they're going to have to give a reason to buckle. It'll be like we just didn't want to subject the American people anymore to sombrero memes.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know how they'll come up with some good reason.

[Adam Curry]

They have to.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I have this. The big scandal going on in AI is Tim Norwood.

[Adam Curry]

This is these kids.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't think so?

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not a scandal. It's one of the best marketing campaigns I've ever seen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mean, it's outstanding.

[Adam Curry]

They're basically just trying to get an agent.

[John C. Dvorak]

An agent for some woman.

[Adam Curry]

This AI model is not in movies. It doesn't have any gigs booked. Isn't getting sides for scripts. You know, it's like, yeah, but it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Got Hollywood all bent out of shape. There's all they got, one person after another going. If anyone hires her, we're gonna quit the agency.

[Adam Curry]

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It's a Dutch woman, I think, although she has a British accent. Accent.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is a Dutch woman.

[Adam Curry]

She. She. It was just a genius, a genius marketing ploy. Like, oh, we're shopping for agents. That's when this. Because that's one of the hardest steps. It is a good bit break, breaking into show business. The first and probably hardest step is getting an agent. Like, oh, you got an agent? Not yet. I'm trying to get one. No one will take me. Yeah, who's. Who's your agent? Well, he also represents, you know, whoever. Julianne.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tom Hanks.

[Adam Curry]

Tom Hanks.

[News Reporter]

Three seasons and a podcast. Meet Tilly Norwood, the world's most controversial new actor.

[Adam Curry]

Can she cry on Graham Norton?

[News Reporter]

While she might seem real on screen and on her social media, take a closer look.

[Adam Curry]

Can you tell Tilly Norwood 100% AI generated?

[News Reporter]

Yep, she's fake. Tilly Norwood is the first creation from a new studio that develops AI actors. And this morning her mere existence has sparked outrage and concern about the use of artificial intelligence in Hollywood. We have so far lost the plot.

[Adam Curry]

What are we doing?

[News Reporter]

The backlash to Tilly Norwood igniting over the weekend after her creator, Dutch actor and comedian Elena van der Velden, said multiple talent agents have shown interest in signing the AI actress, according to Deadline. That news prompting real actors to speak out in protest. Emily Blunt calling it really, really scary in an interview with Variety urging agencies to please. Really, really scary posting a lengthy defending the invention, comparing it to animation or CGI writing. Tilly Norwood is not a replacement for a human being, but a creative work, a piece of art that sparks conversation. Whoopi Goldberg among those responding.

[John C. Dvorak]

The problem with this, in my opinion, humble opinion, don't care, is that you.

[News Reporter]

Are suddenly up against something that's been.

[John C. Dvorak]

Generated with 5,000 other actors.

[Adam Curry]

Actors.

[News Reporter]

So it's a little bit of an unfair advantage. The debate over Tilly Norwood, just the latest in the battle between creative artists and AI.

[Adam Curry]

Where was that report from? Is that from cbs? Abc? Where's that from NBC, I think, because I have a CBS CBC report from Canada, which sounded remarkably similar.

[News Reporter]

Three seasons and a podcast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly the same report, same opening.

[Adam Curry]

That's the whole. It's the same report.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a package. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

It's a package list. I'll play with the catch.

[News Reporter]

Three seasons and a podcast with villains.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, interesting. A little different. Oh, well, now I have to play it. It's not exactly the same.

[News Reporter]

Three seasons and a podcast bragging about getting gigs battling with villains on screen in a skit. This is Tilly Norwood, an AI generated actress created by the company Particle Science 6. Its CEO, Eline van der Velden says entertainment companies are interested.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, I'm not familiar with this Dutch actress and comedian. I haven't really been keeping up. But I don't think she's very well known in Holland with Tilly, you know.

[News Reporter]

When we first launched her, especially with.

[Adam Curry]

That accent, like, no, that's not gonna happen.

[News Reporter]

And now it's, you know, we're going to announce who she's going who. Which agency is going to be there.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know if she does porn. One as many. I'm not of the business presenting her.

[News Reporter]

In the next few months. She said this during a panel at the Zurich Film Festival last year.

[Adam Curry]

There it is. Ah, see, that's how she did it. She launched it at the Zurich Film Festival. We're getting an agent for our AI.

[News Reporter]

Since then, Hollywood has been up in arms. Actors like Whoopi Goldberg, Simu Liu, and Emily Blunt are speaking out.

[Adam Curry]

Same package. This is a. I think Hollywood just distributed a package to everybody. Don't you think it would.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hollywood would be the beneficiary of this? This.

[Adam Curry]

Of course they would. They love it.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's. And by the way, thinking it's cheap reminds me of the early days of cgi.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

When, you know, they would do a few special effects using the computers that are actually blowing up a building. They had a computer do it, and then pretty soon the movies became so CGI centric that it cost a fortune in computing power to do it. So you think it's cheap at first.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it becomes more expensive now. I want to. The reason I want to bring this up is because all these people got all. You see it on all these networks. They're all bent out of shape. And then the fallback was always, well, don't worry about it. Because the public is never going to, you know, have the same feelings for these sort of celebrities. And they went on and on, and it's just because it's not a real person. And so there's not going to be any attachment. And they all kind of ignore Hatsune Miku.

[Adam Curry]

Hatsune Miku.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hatsune Miku is a fake person in Japan that is extremely popular and she's been around since at least 2012. She's been around for over a decade. And it's a. You can look her up. H a T u s. I'm sorry. H A T S U N e Miku. M I k. Uh, a pop star. And everyone knows she's a fake. And everyone loves her like, she's like the girl next door. And so this, this is more of a threat than they think it is. And everyone ignores the phenomenon of anime.

[Adam Curry]

Or she real. She's anime, isn't she?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, she's not anime.

[Adam Curry]

Oh. Well, I'm looking at Hatsune Maku and the whole YouTube page is filled with anime. Anime.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that might be full, maybe that pages, but there's. Look at, look at images on. Do an image search and look for her. She's real. She's kind of a pretty Japanese girl.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so for once in a while, she has cross Eyes.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I see her. Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And she's very popular. So this is not something that should be taken lightly.

[Adam Curry]

Well, ultimately, it's bad for humanity. You know, you lose touch with. We're being psyopped into technology. I mean, you look at the latest AI.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, what you just said is reminding me of the meeting that Hegseth had. Because all the counterarguments. Why don't they just send an email? He didn't have to bring them all together when the old timers in the military said, yeah, you want face to face. You want face to face. And what you just said is a reflection of these. The same doofuses as. Oh, they could have sent out an email or a Zoom call would have done the same thing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, if you look.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not true.

[Adam Curry]

If you look at the popular new AI companies. Loves you. AI friend. A friend. AI is a really funny one. I couldn't clip it because it doesn't come across. It's a pendant you wear around your neck, and you press it to talk to your friends. But this is it. This is.

[John C. Dvorak]

And your friend is dependent.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, your. Your friend then texts you something. You talk to your friend by pressing the pendant, and then it sends you a text message with the phone that.

[John C. Dvorak]

You'Re carrying around incessantly and holding in your hand as you walk down the street. But of course, Men and women.

[Adam Curry]

But of course, yes. So, you know, this is. This is where it's headed. I mean, I think in. In this regard. But who even cares about a movie with. Unless we all have the same friend AI or the same loves you AI. The Gen Zers, you know, they're all going for, not just Gen Z, but the Boomers, even. I'm lonely. Oh, I have a friend now. I have a friend in my phone who listens. My friend listens to me. It's extremely bad for humanity. But I think there's no stopping. Stopping it. There's no stopping it. So we'll have AI movies, you know, all generated characters. It's. I've given up. I mean, if I. If I can.

[John C. Dvorak]

They said the slop is gonna kill it.

[Adam Curry]

No, but people will love the slop. This is. This is what I'm coming to realize. Oh, it's slop. But I love it. We're like pigs. AI slop. I love it. I want Mama Pig. Yeah, that. Well, not everybody, but a lot of people. A lot, a lot of people are going to go for that. They're just. They're AI pigs. They want more slop. Give Me slop. I love it. I'm a pig. Give it to me. Well, then, then there's one other little Hollywood Diddy, since we're on the topic now.

[News Reporter]

Also, on Monday, Donald Trump upped his tariff war, saying the US will now impose a 100% tariff on films made outside the country. It's still unclear how those tariffs would operate since movies and TV shows can be transmitted digitally without going through a port like a car or electronics. But the announcement still is making waves in the film industry. Here's reaction from George Clooney speaking in New York.

[Adam Curry]

If it really happens, it would be.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pretty damaging to the business. Look, he's not wrong about the idea.

[Adam Curry]

That businesses have left Los Angeles.

[John C. Dvorak]

They have in droves.

[Adam Curry]

What we need is, you know, the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Money, the tax incentives that you get.

[Adam Curry]

Here in New York. By the way, they're building studios here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because there's so much work. We need those.

[Adam Curry]

And by the way, if he really.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wants to fix it, then we should talk about a federal incentive pass to keep people working in, in Los Angeles because there are tons of below the line people, grips and cinematographers who are losing their job jobs because work is going away.

[Adam Curry]

Now. Hollywood always wants to be subsidized. Give us money so we can continue to work. No, no. We got AI slop coming to everybody. Look at the pigs. They love it. I love it. You know that we are also focused on trans people, but transhumanism is just moving forward. You know, again, the brain computer interface is on the way. It's, it's, you know, you'll live forever. By the way, this show will, will never end. It'll just be John Adam. AIs tapped into the system creating podcasts forever.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we're going to stay in the Hollywood theme. I do have the Netflix clips.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, what's, I didn't think there was any news on Netflix. What's going on?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, it's scandalous.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[News Reporter]

Joining us now to discuss with Start.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[John C. Dvorak]

Start with Netflix versus Musk for the background.

[News Reporter]

Oh, backgrounder Elon Musk is urging parents to boycott Netflix. In a meme shared on X that Musk reacted to today, Netflix was depicted as a Trojan horse with its contents labeled transgender woke Agenda, which was being wheeled into a castle marked your kids. Musk wrote in his post, quote, cancel Netflix for the health of your kids. Hits. This comes a day after he criticized the animated show Dead End Paranormal park for featuring transgender storylines and themes. Musk reposted a clip from the series writing, quote, this is not okay. Marketed as suitable for children aged seven and up, the show includes a character who comes out as identifying as transgender. The character says, quote, I've never been happier. Other kids shows that feature LGBT3 include the Dragon Prince, she Ra, and the Princesses of Power, and the Owl House.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm glad that you got clips of this because I saw the story come by and I'm just like, more trans stories. I'm not interested. So clearly there's something there, otherwise you wouldn't have made three anals of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Analysis.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm just reading the clip. Name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, well, let's play some of these analysis clips, starting with. Oh, good Lord.

[Adam Curry]

Mm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Number one.

[News Reporter]

Joining us now to discuss is Will Hild, executive Director of Consumers Research. Will, thank you so much for joining us. Great to see you again. Now, first, what do you make of Musk's accusations against Netflix?

[Guest/Expert]

I think they're entirely accurate. This is a company that has pushed a woke agenda with children for years now. Libs of TikTok posted a two or three year old clip from Cocomelon where they have a kid cross dressing dance dancing for his two gay dads, which has obviously reignited a controversy around that show as well today. It's long overdue, and I'm glad that someone with the prominence of Elon is pushing back.

[News Reporter]

And in your view, is there a risk that many parents don't know that Netflix programs their kids are watching may contain LGBT content or themes that promote transgenderism?

[Guest/Expert]

Yeah, it's a huge risk, and it's something that Netflix has been pushing without really, you know, advertising it or making it clear that that's what they're doing with kids. They just put it into otherwise normal show. Cocomelon, I think, had like 10 or 15 seasons with absolutely none of that in it until this past couple of years, and they've started introducing it. So that's the other issue is sometimes you'll start watching a show and it's unclear that it contains that kind of transgender ideology or LGBTQ ideology, and then you, you know, maybe leave the room while you let your kids watch it, and suddenly they're being indoctrinated with this kind of gender ideology nonsense.

[Adam Curry]

Suddenly your daughter's abortion boy. Cocomelon. Is that the name of the show? Coco Melon?

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess, but. But I think what's overlooked in this analysis is the fact that this only happened in the last couple of years. Yes, and I just noticed it too, with the memes about Netflix. They've done, you know, they have a Netflix remakes. It used. The joke used to always be, here's the Disney remake. And there'd be, you know, some. Instead of a white girl, it'd be some, you know, a Latino, black, Latino, lesbian. That would be the Disney remake.

[Adam Curry]

Pierced.

[John C. Dvorak]

And. And now you have this meme has been shifted to Netflix and only recently so that somebody got into Netflix. This is like the bald guys in the military. Somebody got into Netflix.

[Adam Curry]

Probably more of them. Hire more of them. Well, who was that guy? That guy. The guy from Biden's administration, the transportation department. Wasn't he in transportation? The guy who kept stealing the suitcases with women?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, the suitcase. He was the new nuclear.

[Adam Curry]

The nuclear guy. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

He needed a gig.

[Adam Curry]

He went to Netflix.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's possible. I mean, something happened to Netflix and it's only been within the last couple of years, it seems. And so now it's kind of getting pushed back on him with these. And this is one of the. I think this is going to. I think what we're going to, what we're playing here is the beginning of a pushback. Here we go.

[News Reporter]

And will. We have seen increasing concern from parents over the types of content being pushed on their children, from, say, books to TV shows. Now, one of the Netflix shows in question, dead end, Paranormal park, is marketed to those seven and up. Do you see there being a need for regulation on what does or doesn't count as being for kids?

[Guest/Expert]

That's a great question. I'm generally loathe to have the government engage in the regulation of speech, but one of the exceptions that we all pretty much agree to is that that certainly doesn't apply when you're talking about children. This is something that we've seen in efforts to prevent children from accessing pornography in a number of different states, states like Florida and Virginia and Texas. And I think there is a question here of whether this is something that we want to protect children from. It also, you know, this isn't incidental. These corporations have an agenda of pushing this stuff. Our organization, Consumers Research, went after State Farm and sure. Many years ago because they were working with a project called the Gender Cool Initiative, and they were buying books aimed at kids as young as five. And that's not my word. That's set on the book, you know, Kids five and up that had titles like A Kid's book about being transgender or A Kid's Book about being Non binary. And they were buying these books and donating them to public schools to get them in the hands of children explicitly. So it really. If this was just something that was accidental or a writer had slipped something in, that'd be a little different. But it's clear that Netflix and a lot of other corporations have an agenda to target children with this kind of. Of radical ideology that's, you know, in fact, a form of grooming in a lot of ways.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it didn't take me very long to figure it out. Under the new lens of the North Sea Nexus. Cocomelon, produced by Moonbug Entertainment limited British children's media company headquartered in London. This is an attack on. Attack on the American children by the Brits. Let's turn them all a transition. Yeah, let's. Let's cause a. Let's cause a ruckus. And who. Let me see who owns this? One second. Let me look at the Moon Bug. Owned by Candle Media. Oh, Blackstone. There you go. Blackstone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Blackstone.

[Adam Curry]

Co funded by former Disney executives. Okay, there you go. Oh, oh, but, oh, but wait, there's more. Candle Media owns Moonbug Entertainment. Hello, sunshine. And the production company of Israeli thriller series. Oh, we got the Jews in there. This is a. This is a quagmire. It's a double whammy, huh? Yeah. You always got to look at who owns this stuff and who's producing it. So call Brunetti. Ask him about Cocomelon.

[John C. Dvorak]

He won't know anything about it.

[Adam Curry]

He doesn't know anything, does he?

[John C. Dvorak]

He knows more than you'd imagine. He knows a lot, but I don't think he knows about this. This sort of thing, this sort of. This sinister stuff.

[Adam Curry]

So they also have done ABC kid TV Cocomelon, I guess they. They launched on YouTube, interestingly.

[John C. Dvorak]

So.

[Adam Curry]

Netflix. Okay. In June 2020, Cocomelon launched on Netflix. Hmm. Well, it's a. It's an attack from the Brits. That's. I'm just gonna call it that way. What else could it. Is it. Is it popular?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm. I'm not going to argue with you because this thesis seems to be holding up.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Let's go to the last clip.

[News Reporter]

Now, following Musk's call for a bo, Netflix stock closed down 2.3%. Now, looking back, Disney took a significant hit after it was accused of doing the same thing. Do you think we could see Netflix changing its direction as a result? How likely is that?

[Guest/Expert]

Well, it's unclear. See, one of the problems that we've got in pushing back on corporate America is that the large asset managers like BlackRock, State street and Vanguard control so many of the shares of the company that they can insulate the executive class from a lot of the bad decisions that they're making from a consumer standpoint. And I think that's part of what's going on with Disney. Disney shares have been in the tank. They, their five year performance, especially when relative to the S&P 500, have been absolutely abysmal. But they actually brought back the CEO that took them in a woke turn, Bob Iger. And I think that's because of the influence of CEOs like Larry Fink at BlackRock and others at Vanguard and State Street. And so I think that's a problem that we really need to solve. It's one of the main things we focus on at Consumers Research. We need to get these asset managers out of the business of insulin, isolating executives from the consequences of their decision.

[News Reporter]

And will, as you know, Musk is an entrepreneur who likes to take risks. How likely are we to see him launch a Netflix rival? Is there a market for that?

[Guest/Expert]

That's a great question. You know, he's got his finger in so many pies in that way. You know, he's, you know, rocket company, a car company. But he's also apparently going to create a competitor to Wikipedia. And he's active in the AI space in a. In a very aggressive way. So it would be be great if he was to put those type of resources and his mind power behind a alternative to Netflix. And a lot of times what the real allure of these stations, of these streaming stations is is not so much the stuff that they make, it's the licenses that they have purchased over the years. That's certainly the case with Disney. A lot of the stuff they're making now isn't that popular, but they hold the keys to seeing a lot of the old intellectual property that people beloved around Mickey Mouse and Cinderella and all that kind of stuff. And Netflix is the same way.

[Adam Curry]

Here's what they need to do. Someone needs to start the AI slop streaming station and just have AI slop all day running on it. It's everywhere.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think you're ahead of your time there with that idea.

[Adam Curry]

Sombrero videos, AI friends making out with other AI friends. Yeah, we're still analog, man. Podcasting is pretty much the only technology left that is just normal for normal people without video.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're, we're actually digital.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but we're not AI.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we're close.

[Adam Curry]

We're analog into people's ears. You know, no distractions. I'm in your Head. No distractions. I'm between your ears. Listen to me. Don't donate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Donate.

[Adam Curry]

So I've made a decision.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I'm glad you made a decision.

[Adam Curry]

One, just. It's one a month. One decision. I'm no longer going to complain about people saying free speech versus freedom of speech. I'm just going to call it speech. Because putting something in front of it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Actually a good solution.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, because it's all about speech. Speech. You know, the freedom of speech is not a kind of speech. It's just speech. I have the given, God given right to speech. I can speak, I can speech. I can say whatever I want. Now, I. Obviously, if I slander someone, and that's a different issue, but it's just speech.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's the same issue.

[Adam Curry]

What do you mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

Still speech.

[Adam Curry]

It's speech. Yeah, it's just speech.

[John C. Dvorak]

It just happens to be slander, so.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yes, it is, but you know, But I can still use speech. But the government can't stop me from slandering somebody. If I slander someone, they can get me in trouble for lying or disparaging. But speech is just speech, right? And all this freedom of speech and free speech, it's not good. Just say speech. Speech in the United States is protected speech. Not free speech, not freedom of speech. Just speech then. So Jonathan Turley, who I like, I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Think, yeah, he's great. He's a professor at Georgetown. I think if I was a student and I could take one of his courses, I think it would be dynamite.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'd take it too.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, if you take. I have to say this to people that started going to college and we have a few out there, just, you know, don't take courses. Take professors. Find out the guys who are super talented, talented and take their courses. Whatever it is, it doesn't matter. Just take that because there's people that you're taking that you're learning from that.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I recommend Prof. G.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't.

[Adam Curry]

Neither do I. So, Jonathan Turley. This showed up in my timeline and I was like, well, that's interesting. This is about speech and the North Sea nexus and in particular the middle management of the monarchs. And. And the city of London. Free speech isn't a free fall. In Europe, there are two anti free speech movements that have coalesced. One is in Europe, where it has laid waste to free speech. Germany, France, England. Free speech has been eviscerated. And also places like Canada. The US Anti free speech movement began in higher education that metastasized throughout the government. But this is all right. Reached our shores now. The Berlin World Forum followed the remarks of Vice President Vance on free speech. And the EU was red hot. They gathered in Berlin and it was the most anti free speech kethering I've ever been part of. There's only two of us from the free speech community and they are committed. And you know, Hillary Clinton was there and she really fueled the anger. I mean, she. When Twitter was purchased by Elon Musk, she called on the EU to use the infamous Digital Services act, which is one of the most anti free speech pieces of legislation in decades. And she called upon the EU to use the DSA to force the censorship of American citizens. Force people like Musk to censor. It's an extraordinary act by someone who was once a presidential candidate. Candidate in the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

But they are committed to it.

[Adam Curry]

And after the World Forum, they further globalized this effort and they are threatening companies like Axe with ruinous fines unless they resume censoring American citizens. This is so bad, and it's really not even discussed properly what's happening in the uk. It is. I mean, I've seen videos of the cop showing up, wanting to talk to some woman's daughter because she viewed a post. She viewed a post.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, here's. I have a clip of the magistrate that's reading the riot act to somebody for a Facebook post. I don't have the whole clip. It's too long. But the guy got prison time.

[Adam Curry]

What? Hold on a second. I think I've seen this. Is this the guy with the. With the, with the funky wig? I need one of those wigs.

[John C. Dvorak]

They all have funky wigs.

[Adam Curry]

Those wigs are great. Questioning why you wrote. Because they're over here. Given life of Riley off the tax us hard working people earn when it could be put to better use. Come over here with no work visa, no trade to their name and sit down and doss. And then there's more people being put out homeless each year. They get top banned priority on housing. You went on to say that you did not want your money going to immigrants who, quote, rape our kids and get priority. Although you said that you had no intention of carrying out any act of violence, there can be no doubt that you were inciting others to do so. Otherwise, 1. I post the comment. Wow. And he went. He got fined or went to jail.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was up to seven years.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the thing is. But the comment at the end is why I cut it off there. He said. He said, yeah, you didn't want to incite violence. But you're. But why else would you post.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Not your opinion. Your opinion's, no question.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good. You know, it's good. No, you. Only according to this guy, and he's of this class, and I think. Which brings us back to your thesis. But of this class of people, he. The assumption is that if you post at all, you say anything. You're trying.

[Adam Curry]

You.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're doing that only to incite violence because that's the only possible reason you do it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which is illogical.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. Yeah. And the discussion really isn't being held over here about what's happening. And it's not that way in the EU yet, but it kind of is. It's just, you know, they don't have.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it's in Germany, for sure.

[Adam Curry]

Well, Germany. Well, the reason why we don't hear it coming out of Germany is because if you post about it, you go to jail. You can't even say that they're doing this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right. Yeah, I know. It's really pretty. It's quite interesting. And it's in a subtle. But the fact that Hillary Clinton would be over there encouraging it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tells you. But again, she was, you know, in the Rhodes Scholar. She's not a Rhodes Scholar because her husband was. But she's in that. We already identified her as part of the nexus.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it makes nothing but sense that she'd go over there and promote this idea. She's horrible person.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, she is. She is a horrible person. My goodness. My goodness. Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

And people are still bent out of shape that she didn't beat Trump.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, you know, NPR did a poll.

[Guest/Expert]

This.

[Adam Curry]

This was kind of an interesting little segment that I got about political violence, speaking of violence. And they polled, I guess, their listener governors and. Well, just have a listen to this.

[John C. Dvorak]

The federal government is shut down after Republicans and Democrats in the Senate could not agree on a funding bill. A new NPR PBS News Marist poll is out this morning, and it found that more people would blame Republicans for a shutdown. In a few minutes, we'll speak with Democratic Representative Rosa DeLauro about her party strategy.

[News Reporter]

First, though, more details from that poll. It found the overwhelming majority believe chili children should be vaccinated before they're going to school and that it's more important to control gun violence rather than protect gun rights.

[John C. Dvorak]

NPR senior political editor and correspondent Domenico Montanaro has all the numbers. So, Domenico, let's start with the shutdown. What did the poll find?

[Adam Curry]

This is. I mean, so this is NPR listeners npr, pbs. So this is the, the target demo for Democrats.

[John C. Dvorak]

Super liberals.

[Adam Curry]

Super liberals, yeah. Yeah. Republicans get more of the blame, 38 to 27, than though that's not close to a majority. In 2019, during what was the longest government shutdown in history. Over a month, 50% or more blamed Trump. Now, 31% would blame both parties equally. Trump and Republicans get low approval ratings, but Democrats in Congress are worse. Just 25% approve of them. That's because of Democrats, by the way. Less than half approve of members of their own party in Congress. So a lot of politics to play here as the shutdown goes on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, one thing that really jumps out in this survey, which you've written about this morning on NPR.org, the idea that more people believe they might have to resort to violence to fix things. I mean, how many people are we talking about?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the number is up to 30% who think that they may have to resort to violence to get the country back on the right track. That's up 11 points from when we asked that question in April of last year. First of all, what kind of question is that to ask?

[John C. Dvorak]

Ask.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, I know. Let's ask people if they want political violence. Yeah, that's a good idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what do you think's driving that?

[Adam Curry]

Largely, it's changed views among some Democrats. I mean, they've gone from just 12% percent saying violence might be necessary to now 28%. That's a pretty big jump. But Republicans are higher still at 31%. That's also a marginal increase from last year. And everybody wants to fight. Even a quarter of independent defendants are saying this, saying this. Now, you know, it's important to remember, though, 70% of people do not feel this way. More than three quarters say political violence is a major problem. And other polling has shown that when specific acts of violence are polled, the numbers are much lower still. It's pretty alarming, though, that people are increasingly feeling this way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Now, okay, let's get to free speech, something we've been talking about a lot since Jimmy Kimmel was taken off the air for a week after the Trump administration pressured ABC and its affiliates. So how are people feeling about free speech in America?

[Adam Curry]

Well, they're not feeling like it's very free. Roughly 8 in 10 say they think that the country's gone too far in restricting speech that crosses political lines, with almost 90 Democrats and independents saying this, as well as almost two thirds of Republicans. Remember, conservatives were the ones who were saying for years that they felt that their speech, their Free speech rights were being curtailed on college campuses and online. So a lot of people now have gripes with what can and can't be said in the country, and that's showing up in this poll. People also believe the federal government should play a minimal role in regulating speech. Just 15% said they think it should be a major role. It should have a major role in doing so. 44% said it should play only a minor one. Another 4 in 10 said it should play no role at all. Does not bode well.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that's actually not good numbers. No, because there should be nobody. I mean, it says right there in the First Amendment they can't do anything. The government should be kept by. The Constitution says no government can't do jack about speech one way or the.

[Adam Curry]

Other and can't make any laws to infringe on it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which is my version of doing jack.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, yes, yes. Well, speech. I'm just called. So long way to say I'm just calling it speech.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you can do what you want.

[Adam Curry]

I'm going to do exactly what I want.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, that's what else is new.

[Adam Curry]

Speaking of speech and wait, I gotta.

[John C. Dvorak]

Since we were kind of on the top topic, I'm about free speech. Speech. Have you. Have you. I don't have to. I'm going to do what I want to do, too.

[Adam Curry]

I know, but I'm gonna contradict you.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you're going to. You're going. You're being a. A scold.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I'm going to speech. Scold you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you can do what you want.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a funny bit that ran. It has been floating around on the Brit card.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, this is the old. The old lady at the bus.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the old lady at the bus. It starts with an old lady at the bus and she doesn't have a grit card.

[Adam Curry]

They're calling it the Brit card.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think somebody must be calling it the Brit card, but it's. This is the digital id, is what we're talking about. The digital ID that some people want. And what's. There's one aspect of this that's completely overlooked and I'll bring it up at the end.

[Adam Curry]

Can I see your brick card, please? I don't have one.

[News Reporter]

I don't have a smartphone.

[Adam Curry]

Can I get another Pinterest, please?

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry, sir, your Brit card says you've.

[Adam Curry]

Exceeded your alcohol quota for this week.

[News Reporter]

Sorry, sir, your BRIC card says you've already flown twice this year. We're having to restrict passengers with higher than average emissions Profiles.

[Adam Curry]

Sorry, I'm afraid your funds have been temporarily frozen. Your recent social media post did not.

[Guest/Expert]

Align with the government's narrative.

[News Reporter]

Sorry. I'm afraid your BRIC card says you cannot purchase any more meat this week as part of our commitment to achieving net zero.

[Guest/Expert]

I've just logged in using my BRIC card and it's saying I've already had three hours of Internet to today and it's locked me out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so what's being. You know, and this is all good stuff because that's exactly what would be happening. Computer says no.

[Adam Curry]

Computer says no.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but the thing that they were experimenting with in China and their digital currency, and I've run into this because I, when I went to South Africa, I used a, I got a bunch of, of traveler's checks in Rands. And what the Chinese are experimenting with and which I experienced with the rant with these, with these travelers checks is expiration of funds.

[Adam Curry]

Right. But that has nothing to do with the Brit card per se. That, that would, it would, it would.

[John C. Dvorak]

If the digital currency, all of a sudden you got. Well, it does, because a digital currency. You could do this with real currency too. I mean, because they deal with it with these travelers checks. But the idea is that you're given a 50. Let's say you got $500 a week. And the, that money that goes into the. And it's easier to do with the digital currency because you can just put a tag on, on that 500. And that 500 expires and must be spent.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Within 30 days.

[Adam Curry]

This is all part of the UBI concept.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that way, you know, you have all this money you can't spend, save. No, because they don't want you saving because that way you can't build up wealth.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I'm in agreement with you, but you're kind of jumping the gun. You know, the EU will have their digital euro. They're going to do that. But the uk, I don't. They're not there yet.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. I think it's something you have to bring in. The Chinese are experimenting with it to see if people go. Go along with the program. But it stinks.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it stinks. There's only one way around it, and that's bitcoin.

[John C. Dvorak]

No cash.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Also gold.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Here, can I, can I. Do you have a cheese scraper so I can, So I can tip you?

[John C. Dvorak]

Slightly impractical, but. So is bitcoin, for that matter.

[Adam Curry]

No, bitcoin is a lot. That is digital gold. It's A lot more practical.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. You had digital in there.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but it. Okay, well, I'm not going to argue with you because you're a boomer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. You're the one that's the big gold bug. Until just recently.

[Adam Curry]

Until 2020. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, you had, you had a.

[John C. Dvorak]

You had a break.

[Adam Curry]

A bar. A bar, Yeah, I did.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Whatever happened to that bar?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, whatever happened to my two ex wives? I don't know. I was looking for my leather jackets. All gone. Everything. I had no history. I'm looking for my MTV jackets.

[John C. Dvorak]

There goes the bar.

[Adam Curry]

Bye bye bar.

[John C. Dvorak]

I told when you got the bar to paint it black and use it as a doorstop. No one would ever know. I had a. When I was working with a guy at the air pollution district who was one of the supervisors.

[Adam Curry]

You did tell me that, by the way. You did.

[John C. Dvorak]

I did. I'm not, you know, I can remember that part. And the reason is because of this story. This guy working at. His name was, I can almost remember his name, but he was one of the supervisors over at his house. And he and I had all these screwball frames or around his pictures. They're all like metal, black metal around. All these photos and stuff that he had hanging on the wall. And he explained to me they weren't black metal, they were solid gold. He was one of those gold hunters that would go around panning. He also had one of those metal detectors. He'd hit the beach, the old man with the beach, and he said he'd pick up gold watches and all his gold. He kept it as bullion, but it was dangerous to keep around. So he said if anyone ever busted into the house, they saw these cheap looking frames that were painted black. He says no one would ever steal these because it looked stupid. But there was all solid gold. It was hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of gold in his kitchen. I mean it was unbelievable.

[Adam Curry]

It is kind of interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

That gave me the idea to tell you about painting the bar gold a black and using it as a doorstop.

[Adam Curry]

It is kind of interesting when I became a gold bug and I was buying Krugerrands. I still have them. I think I gave some away, but I have the majority of them. I remember the price that I bought them at. Do you remember the price per ounce?

[John C. Dvorak]

Around 300.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no, no. 750.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, well, okay.

[Adam Curry]

And what is it now? 3,500. Higher.

[John C. Dvorak]

3,038.

[Adam Curry]

38. Okay. Well, I'm just saying, you know, bitcoin today is. Let me check. 120,750.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So anyway, what I was going to talk about is the Pope.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Pope?

[Adam Curry]

The Pope, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is he a Catholic?

[Adam Curry]

He is a Catholic. Worst joke ever. But he's doing weird stuff. You know, it wasn't Chicago, it wasn't clippable because it's just quiet. But he was at an international climate conference and had a big, like a big hunk of iceberg dripping on the stage on a little pedestal. And they asked him to bless the iceberg, and he did, and he blessed the water. And then he was asked about, through a different circumstance, about. About abortion. And he moved the goalpost, which I thought was really interesting. Pope Leo is ordering, offering, I should.

[John C. Dvorak]

Say, his views on a dispute surrounding.

[Adam Curry]

The Catholic Church and Illinois's US Senator Dick Durbin. Chicago Cardinal Blaise Cupich had planned to give Durbin a lifetime achievement award for his work helping immigrants. But some conservative Catholic bishops complained because of Durbin's support for abortion rights. The Pope says there is a country contradiction in this debate.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's important to look at many issues.

[Adam Curry]

That are related to what is the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Teaching of the Church. Someone who says I'm against abortion but says I'm in favor of the death.

[Adam Curry]

Penalty is not really pro life.

[John C. Dvorak]

So someone who says that I'm against abortion, but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants who are in the United States. I don't know if that's pro life.

[Adam Curry]

So they're very complex issues.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them, but I would ask first and foremost that there be.

[Adam Curry]

Greater respect for one another. The Pope said he was not familiar with all the details of the debate over the award, but says it's important to consider Durbin's overall record. Senator Durbin has declined the award. So the goalpost move here is all of a sudden he's talking in code about pro life. Pro life is code. This not. It's anti abortion is the term. And I'm actually flummoxed that he didn't just say, no, I'm against abortion, but he moved it to pro life. This is very strange.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I don't know what he was doing. I don't understand Durbin not taking the award.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, Durbin Shmurbin. But the Pope, you know, we've been trying to figure out what is this Pope, and he's looking a little more woke than I thought he was would be.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it was going to be woke. The last couple Popes were woke. They was picked by a bunch of woke cardinals.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, that was disappointing. Let's talk about the deal. The deal, the big Gaza peace plan, which is, I think very interesting. And the reason I say that is because everybody seems to like the Gaza peace plan. And I'm talking like New York Times news week, which of course makes me very suspicious. But I think President Trump did something really smart here and he pulled the North Sea Nexus into the deal by putting Tony Blair. Oh yes, warmonger, warmonger Tony Blair onto the peace board, the board of peace, which I think can only be like, either you make this happen, Tony Blair, I'm going to expose you for the warmonger that you are. Are. I mean, it's a, it's a very interesting move. And think. France 24 had an overview of the 20 point peace plan.

[News Reporter]

Under Donald Trump's 20 point plan for peace in Gaza, the first step would be an immediate ceasefire. Hamas would then have 72 hours to free all hostages, 48 hostages remaining, Gaza, at least 25 of whom are believed to be deceased. In return, Israel would free 250 Palestinian prisoners and 1,700 Gazans detained since the start of the conflict. The plan would see Israeli forces perform a gradual staggered retreat from Gaza. Initially, the Gaza Strip would be governed by a technocratic, apolitical Board of People Peace, made up of Palestinians and international experts, directed and presided over by US President Donald Trump. The former British Prime Minister Tony Blair would also play a part in this organization. Hamas would be banned from any role in governing Gaza, while Hamas members would benefit from an amnesty if they disarm and agree to peacefully coexist with Israel. The framework includes plans to invest in Gaza and rebuild the devastated territory. Territory. As soon as a text is signed, access for humanitarian aid would be restored, overseen by bodies including the United nations and the Red Cross. An international stabilization force, with the backing of Arab states would keep the peace in the long term. The Palestinian Authority would be allowed to take control of governing the territory after certain reforms. And the plan leaves the door open for an eventual actual Palestinian state. But if Hamas rejects a plan or does not follow through, Trump says Israel would then have US Backing to, quote, finish the job of destroying the threat of Hamas.

[Adam Curry]

So besides putting Blair on the board, the peace board, he's got all the Arab countries, they're like, yeah, we like this plan. And then he got Israel to agree with the Arab countries. What do you think the chances are of success here?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think they're still talking to Iran because they're the ones that are behind The Hamas in general, they're the ones calling the shots, it seems. And if there's a deal to be made, it's got to be made there. And they just tell them to back off and, you know, step up to the plate and, or whatever other cliches I want to come up with and, and end it. I think, at first, I think, well, you know, more talk, you know, because Trump's been yakking about this. They release the hostages or else. He keeps saying it, right? And it doesn't. Nothing goes on and there's nothing and nothing and nothing. And this seems to have gotten some. And I think you're right, it's bringing Blair in.

[Adam Curry]

The North Sea nexus. Bring the creeps in.

[John C. Dvorak]

The creeps in. Bring the creeps in. To have them put pressure on, however they do it, it's a mystery.

[Adam Curry]

Meanwhile, we've got the flotilla, which is always hilarious, always hilarious.

[News Reporter]

The Israeli navy has intercepted a flotilla of vessels trying to get to Gaza. The boats had traveled for weeks in the Mediterranean, drawing attention to the humanitarian situation in Gaza. Israel had warned them to turn back and vowed they would not break the naval blockade. Paul Hunter has the latest from Jerusalem. Paul, what do we know?

[Adam Curry]

Susan, I'll say off the top, we don't know an awful lot of details with certainty because what's been happening is out in the Mediterranean in the dark of night and obviously not in front of news cameras or reporters. Well, because you guys are too lame to go out there. It's a dark at night. It was too dark for us to go. And though some of the various boats have been live streaming, verification, clarifying precisely what's what is complicated. So with those caveats, here's what can be said. A number of the boats, and there are about 40 or 50 of them in total, are now said to have been boarded by Israeli authorities. Early word was that people were being arrested and taken to a port in Israel. It seemed without incident. But later came the suggestion from the flotilla that the Israeli navy was using, quote, active aggression, that water cannon was, was being used, and even that at least one boat in the flotilla had been rammed, though no reports of any injuries. Again, impossible to verify at this point. Bottom line, an interception is underway. The boats are all part of this international flotilla carrying opponents to the war in Gaza, some of them high profile opponents with aid meant for Gazan. So the aid, in truth, is merely symbolic. The point here is to try to break the Israeli naval blockade of Gaza and open a humanitarian corridor. No, this is all ego. This is just A bunch of people who want to. I'm good, I'm great. And of course we know who's in the flotilla. The blockade has been in place since Hamas took control of Gaza back in 2007, but is under fire now because it's preventing access for aid into Gaza from the Mediterranean. At the same time, Israel controls land crossings while its two year war on Hamas continues. And as any on those boats would underline, countless Gazans are an ever more desperate need for food and other aid right now. Bottom line, a tense situation in the Mediterranean. Susan.

[News Reporter]

And what is Israel saying?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it calls the whole thing a stunt and calls those in the flotilla provocateurs looking to create some sort of of incident. Israel has even said that it would allow the boats to drop their aid north of Gaza with the pledge it would then be taken into Gaza. But the boats continued toward the Gaza coast regardless. And there are those who suggest Israel has no legal jurisdiction in those waters. Others suggesting if Israel can demonstrate that it's militarily justified, then interceptions can go forward. But even as the flotilla approached, Israel made clear it would use any means possible to stop it. And that seems to be what's happening tonight. Interceptions and arrests and by some accounts, no small degree of chaos. And I'll just mention one of those now detained Greta Thunberg, the climate activist video emerging now of her being picked up by Israeli authorities on one of those boats. As Israel put it, Greta and her friends are safe and healthy. All of this, Susan, is expected to continue for the next several hours. I mean, how can we take Greta Thunberg seriously anymore? Does anyone take her seriously? Seriously? Climate activists now Palestinian activists on the flotilla. Break out the discord people. Get your Gen Z212 in there. This is just. She's a bad op at this point I don't know how they must.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's definitely gone off the rails. And she looks silly.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, just nuts.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess. She has a. One of her sister is a pop singer or something.

[Adam Curry]

No. Really?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, very famous pop singer.

[Adam Curry]

So famous.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, so famous you go huh? Huh.

[Adam Curry]

I have not heard of the famous pop singer. Well, oops, I gave it away.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kimmy's in the well.

[Adam Curry]

And with that I want to thank you for your courage in the morning. To you, the man who put the C in the cocoa melon. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only, the inimitable Mr. John C. Devora.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good morning you Mr. Craddy, marshy bus and Rafi, the air setters in the 1, the dames are nice out there counting the trolls.

[Adam Curry]

So I figured out. So we had a. We had a problem on the last show. I don't know if you remember, after the show, I let you go before I'd even posted it. Remember that? Do you remember? You remember? Ha ha ha. Do you remember?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So. And I got all kinds of complaints. I couldn't get into the troll room. Now most of the time, like, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, Mimi says she only heard about. Done a half hour of the show and then it dropped dead. She couldn't pick it up at all. I said, you complained to Adam. She said, I will. She never did.

[Adam Curry]

She didn't actually. Turns out that we had a classic. A DNS problem. So people could literally not reach our MP3s, our stream, the troll room. And I woke void zero up. Like I pulled the handle and got him out of bed and he fixed it. So I think that's why we only see 1691 today in the troll room. People. People are giving up on the. This thing. It's like, ah, can I listen? Let them know? People All. All problems are fixed.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's not that far off of a typical Thursday.

[Adam Curry]

No. But I think there's probably a couple hundred people who are like, ah, it didn't work. Doesn't work. You lose people that way. It happens. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's harder to get a customer back than it is to get a new customer.

[Adam Curry]

Exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

So those trolls of marketing.

[Adam Curry]

That's right. Those trolls are in the troll room. And you can find it. Noagendastream.com is where. Where you can listen live and troll around. If you. If you feel like it, they are there. Troll. Just bring up Israel. Lots of trolls wake. Oh, I gotta post something. I gotta post something. And of course you can listen on a modern podcast app, which is what we recommend because the modern podcast apps, which increasingly more podcast apps are becoming modern. They're adding more and more features. It's taken. We're in our sixth year now, I think of podcast index and the. All the new features. We're. But sometimes that's just what it takes. You know, the. They got a note yesterday from an outfit and they. They create. They do all kinds of stuff for blind people and people who are. What is the term? Less abled in seeing. And. And they're like, we love your service so much. This really helps, you know, because they make special podcast applications for people, people with screen readers and so they can find stuff. You know, all these other podcast apps don't really have that capability because they're not on, you know, the modern standards. So I'm just saying, like podverse is specifically built for. What's the term? It's a term for it? Accessibility. There you go. Accessibility. All of that is going outside of the mainstream, outside of Apple and Spotify and anyone else.

[John C. Dvorak]

YouTube.

[Adam Curry]

YouTube, YouTube. And in addition to that, because we adhere to these new standards, when we go live, another thing you can't get on your legacy apps, you'll be, you'll be notified and you can listen live right away to the stream. And of course, when we publish within 90 seconds, you'll know it as well. Stop waiting around for hours until the podcast finally drops on your legacy app. 26th of October, it'll be 18 years of this podcast. We never had to fight. Four more years to go. And we've been doing it value for value, which means all we ask in return for the immense value that we provide. Many say, and I think it's proven true, Many, many feel that is to send us some value in return. Now we ask for time, talent or treasure. We have thousands of producers. Why you ask? Because these producers deliver value in return with boots on the ground reports, inside information. People like Voidzero and many others help us with technical issues, issues. And of course, we really appreciate people who fund us because this is our only job, who Support us financially. Noagendadonations.com and then we have the artists, or as we call it now, the prompt Jockeys, who try and create some art that we'll use for the album, art which we've been doing for at least a decade and a half. Things have changed, you know, there's no more humanity in it. It's all pretty much, pretty much a AI We've driven away all of the humans and we want to thank the prompt jockey who brought us the art and actually capitalist agenda who did this piece for episode 1803, which he titled the Drone Wall. I'm. I'm pretty sure that he is not 100% AI he. I mean, if you look at the no agenda words clasped in the talons of this eagle on which the British wanker is sitting backwards. I don't think AI can do that. Not easily, at least. I'm pretty sure he massaged.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he probably put the no agenda on. He had the whole piece done and put no agenda in there by hand.

[Adam Curry]

I wish you would tell us.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Curry and Dvorak. By hand.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I wish you would tell us. That'd be nice. Let us know how you did it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because there's no way that it's going to happen. That's impossible at this point.

[Adam Curry]

We need you to list your LLM and your prompt so we know exactly what you're doing. We need to know because we looked at some other things for artwork and there were some lot of people like the word wanker, man, they really like wanker. That was interesting. Wanker. Not quite sure what they like about that. Was there anything that we looked at that we thought that we thought was good? Stop playing around. Not really, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, we had enough trouble picking this piece.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, British girls. Not quite sure what blue acorn was doing with the British politician holding up a sausage or a hot dog with mustard.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there was that.

[Adam Curry]

That was other bad cartoon art. No, there really wasn't. There really wasn't any hard. You know, when people are uninspired and, oh, I do some art. I'll just put in that. No agenda. Funny. You got to have some humor to make it work. Where's the sombreros? Oh, we'll have lots of sombreros today, I'm sure. Which probably will not get picked.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I don't know yet. So thank you very much. Capitalist agenda. Capitalist agenda has been around for a long time, so. And he certainly does some of the handiwork.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's.

[Adam Curry]

He is a pro as part of the value for value system which we pioneered and we are very proud of to see other people using it in their podcast. So it's very hard. It's not an easy lifestyle. We've chosen it. It's the new international lifestyle. Value for value. We thank everybody and we tell you how much value they supported us with. And we do that. $50 and above for brevity and for anonymity. And we kick it off with Sir Donald of the fire bottles. Is he not the guy he always sends in on letterhead from the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's what he did in this one, too. United Federation of Planets.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fleet command.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, there it is. United Federation of Planets, Starfleet Command. He sent in a Rebelizer donation. $3,333.33. India, Tango, Mike, standby.

[John C. Dvorak]

33. 33, 33.

[Adam Curry]

Rubbleizer out. And he wrote in handwriting on this note, gentlemen, my slide towards douchedom was stopped by a shout out from Sir Triggermax in the first donation segment of Show 1800. Fearing that the Rubbleizer jingle might fall into disuse, I include. I enclose $3,333.33 so that it may be heard again. And get monation. We just heard it. Also, I hereby beg admittance into the Army August Order of Secretaries General with the moniker Secretary General of Greater Idaho, Signed Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, I thought he was in Spokane.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sorry. Well, he says Greater Idaho.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think he may have moved.

[Adam Curry]

And do you see at the bottom? I'd never seen this. You ever see this at the bottom of his. Of his stationary? So at the top he has United Federation of Planets, Starfleet Command. At the bottom he has. Because there's TMS and stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And copyright, he says.

[Adam Curry]

1992, Paramount Pictures. All rights reserve. Star Trek the Next Generation is a trademark of Paramount Pictures. Is he worried he's going to get sued over his station?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I think he bought this from Paramount.

[Adam Curry]

Oh. Oh. I thought he actually was a member of United Starfleet Command. I thought he was real.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I see.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Oh, okay. I was convinced the guy's the member of the United Federation of Planets.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, maybe he is. He still has to get the copyright notice. True trademark.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you very much, Sir Donald, soon to be Secretary General. We really appreciate it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll read the next two so you can read the ridiculously long one. No name from Waldo, Wisconsin, came up at 34567 in. And his note is dynamite. Karma, please.

[Adam Curry]

Gotta love it.

[News Reporter]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the Commodore, semi anonymous. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan.

[Adam Curry]

Vegan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it vegan?

[Adam Curry]

Vegan.

[John C. Dvorak]

In Mill Park, Victoria, Australia. Came in with 333.33, which he calculates is $500, which gives him a secretary generalship.

[Adam Curry]

It does.

[John C. Dvorak]

$500 Australian. 33333. Who knew?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Commodore semi anonymous. Vegan here. I'd like to take advantage of the Secretary general offer with my 33333, which would amount to about 500 Aussie dollars. In honor of PM Elmer Fudd. I'd like to be known as Secretary General of the Wanda Rabbits. The Wanda. Wanda Rabbits. I also. It pushes me over the threshold for a night.

[Adam Curry]

Good. Nice.

[John C. Dvorak]

If it pleases the Peerage Committee. It has to be. I have to be known as Sir Ocho of the Land Down Under. Sir Akko Sirocco.

[Adam Curry]

Sirocco. Sirocco.

[John C. Dvorak]

I gotcha at the round table like a slice or two of Hawaiian and Margherita pizza. Good for you. Soon to be launched by 404 Pizza. Keep an eye out on Kickstarter on the 1st of November, which is a Kickstarter World Vegan Day. So it's a vegan Pizza?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Also like some pornographic. Oh, I'm sorry. Pomegranate kombucha, which is I would recommend again against simply because I haven't heard of it already. Here or there, he says there. John, can you cash Australian checks if they sent to you?

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is the fee?

[Adam Curry]

Well, probably not.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think I can try. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Commodore semi autonomous.

[Adam Curry]

We can't even wire money from our bank. But they'll cash in Australia and check.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we can wire money. We do that.

[Adam Curry]

I can't wire money. Not online.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, you can't do it online. You have to go in because you can't using Swift. You have to answer a bunch of questions. They have to look you in the eye, they have to say, do you know who you're sending this to? Wow. Let me see your id. And then they got to have somebody else sign off on it.

[Adam Curry]

Show me your Brit card.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got to have two or three people sign the document. Then you got to go over all the numbers. Really, it's. It's a huge pain in the ass. And that's why you know Void zero, who gets paid by us to keep the servers going? Yeah, I only pay him every other month for two months work. Because. Because you gotta go in the ass, it takes a good half hour to put separate wires. They're not gonna let you do it online. But when stablecoin comes in, and I always mention this to the bankers, I said, well, you know, this is gonna change. When stablecoin comes in, they always say the same thing.

[Adam Curry]

What.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's Stablecoin?

[Adam Curry]

Really? Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, really?

[Adam Curry]

Well, you could always pay Void zero and Bitcoin.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's another pain in the ass.

[Adam Curry]

Not really.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'd have to have a wallet.

[Adam Curry]

Whoa, no wallet. Oh, God forbid.

[John C. Dvorak]

It would also. Cause it's not as easy to document for tax purposes.

[Adam Curry]

Certainly it is Sir Adam of the Koch Empire Empire associate executive producership. Haven't heard from him in a while. 2, 4, 5, 6, 8. Greetings from the empire. Well, the Koch empire is undergoing some changes at the moment. This is. This feels like to me like inside investment information. We are transitioning from King Charles II to Crown Prince Chase Koch. That's the Koch brothers Koch. Young Chase will take the reign sometimes in sometime in 2026 as he's busy in Silicon Valley spending the empire's money on angel investing into AI startups and other technologies. With his disruptive technologies arm, the empire's reaching a technology in the coming AI power needs is far and wide. With our mega companies, Molex and Deepcom Power, helping Oracle build out its data center infrastructure. It's sad that our King Charles II is stepping down. But soon. Down soon. But besides being really the richest person on the planet Earth, if he didn't have to split 50% with his dead brother's widow, he'd be worth over 100 billion. Wow. Anyway.

[John C. Dvorak]

That sucks.

[Adam Curry]

World domination. Yes, world domination in all industries is progressing as there is not a thing any. No agenda slave touches in their day that didn't get manufactured by the empire. From toilet paper to lumber, TVs to iPhone screens, the Coke empire is all reaching. I haven't donated in a while and that's my fault. I'd like to say I've welcomed the new human resource into the world. Last November. Ah, very pretty. Good. A new Coke baby. Baby girl named Evelyn Grace. She definitely is the best part of my day. As she should be, I'm afraid. Gentlemen, we as society are careening towards the scenes from the great film Dr. Zhivago. He sent the clip. Soon we will all have residency committee comrades telling us that our homes have five bedrooms and you only need one, and that four families will take the others. God knows, if Gavin Newsom gets in next, we will be living out Dr. Zhivago. John, I too listened to the Michael Savage show all those years ago when he talked about Gavin and Kamala destroying San Francisco. Go. Michael tried to warn us. RIP Teddy. PS Support American manufacturing. Buy some toilet paper. Very good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Michael Savage is dead.

[Adam Curry]

No, he's Teddy Roosevelt. Oh, I guess.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nathan Parker in Seattle, Washington. And he says, keep up the good work.

[Adam Curry]

Boom. That's a note.

[John C. Dvorak]

And. 222.22. Which gives me to the second note. No, I. I'll. No, you can have the second one and I'll.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you just look at what's long and what can I do that's not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, don't worry about it. You can read. All right.

[Adam Curry]

Believe me, everybody's happy because it takes you forever to get through the long notes. Sean Homan. Hey, isn't that Holman?

[John C. Dvorak]

Scroll back and forth is a. Yeah. Sean Homan.

[Adam Curry]

He's a brother in Indiana. 200 1911. Ah, that's the 1911 guys, I think. God bless you, brothers. Saint Maria Goretti. Pray for us. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who's Saint Maria Goretti?

[Adam Curry]

I think we've been through this and I forgot already.

[John C. Dvorak]

Eli, the coffee guy's up. He's in Bensonville, Illinois. He comes in with 21002 for today's show. This Monday was National Coffee Day if you didn't know. And we're celebrating by releasing a new organic Ethiopia Opium Ethiopian. What is this? Guji Guji medium roast. Cheers to Cheers to made up days of celebrating random things. Visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com use the code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated. Also can I get a Health karma and an F cancer for fellow coffee lover and producer Doug Doug, stay caffeinated and thank you for your courage. Eli.

[News Reporter]

You'Ve got karma.

[Adam Curry]

Saint Maria Teresa Goretti was an Italian virgin martyr of the Catholic Church and one of the youngest saints to be canonized. There's your answer.

[John C. Dvorak]

How old was she?

[Adam Curry]

Young. And then we have a oh, this is Irma Sasso de Lima de Prado from Alsmia the Netherlands. I actually tried to get this note into AI and have it speak this note. Two problems. One I couldn't get a good Dutch accent out of 11 labs and two it made the note five minutes long so no Dear John Adams, Sorry for this very it was a meetup report but I thought better late than never. We, Anita and Erma hosted our very first meetup in Hofdor at the day camping site of the hailer Emirs of Bos. On September 7th we were blessed with a wonderful sunny day. We set up our specifically for meetups, brought party tent, we hung up your faces and they sent some pictures which are quite funny and had a great time together. We brought food, woke wine, beer, woke wine beer and all kinds of non alcoholic beverages. Oh it's woke wines. No alcohol. When it was time to light the barbecue, it turned out we invited very helpful producers. 19 of them including some very small ones and one four legged producer. We were even blessed with a special visit of a couple with their lovely human resource from South Africa. So considering this was our first hosted meetup, I think it was very successful. And then she says since we I received one donation. Oh she got some donations. I've been a regular listener since October 2023 after I saw you Adam on one of the Jensen shows, Obra Jense. I was hooked and wish I knew about your show before COVID Unfortunately I had to go through that traumatic period without you guys. I set up a recurring donation since February 2024. My first human resource. Anita supports me, but she isn't yet a listening producer. May I have maybe I haven't hit her in the mouth hard enough. Clearly. Anyway, this donation will be on her behalf so it will be for Anita Sauso de Lima de prado. Okay, so it's a switcheroo, basically. Let me do the switcheroo bit. Okay. Switcheroo. All right. Switcheroo. It's a small amount, but this adds up to €94,80. I will chip in a little extra reach €96,30 because I love the combination. Thank you both for what you do. Your shows keep my amygdala relaxed. Even though I've done donated before, I have never been properly de douched. Please. We could both use a proper de douching. Love you. And karma for all you've been de douched. And a little bit of karma. Thank you very much.

[News Reporter]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

Good job on the meetup. 19 people is very good. It's very good for a first one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Linda Lupatkin, Lakewood, Colorado. Jobs, karma. $200 for a competitive edge with a resume that gets Results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image makers, Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[News Reporter]

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wonderful. Thank you very much. Our executive and associate executive producers. We, of course, will have some secretaries general to be announcing, and I believe we even have a couple of nights in this lineup. So stay with us for that. We'll thank the rest of our producers $50 and above in our second segment. And you can always send your value to us. You don't have to wait for something. You don't have to wait for the newsletter. You can just do it whenever you want. Value for value means no levels, no secret things you have to do. Just send whatever you felt value you got out of the show. Any number, any amount. You can set up a recurring donation. Any amount, any [e-mail]. thank you again. These credits are real. Associate, executive producer and executive producers. You can use them anywhere Hollywood credits are usable, which is apparently now in the world of AI and George Clooney's New York. So congratulations. Thank you for supporting no Agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our formula is this.

[Adam Curry]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[News Reporter]

Shut up, slave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up, slave.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I should also mention that value is also highly appreciated from clip custodian, clip collector, all of these people who help us out on the show. It's really. It's appreciated. Makes life interesting. I have some. Oh, there's new data. New data. Did you hear about the new data?

[John C. Dvorak]

Always new data.

[Adam Curry]

There's new data.

[News Reporter]

New data from the centers for disease control show more people are coming down with the common cold. The virus is currently at the highest level since 2022.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, what could this be? Could this be an ad or is it just information? It's new data. Data school is starting. We're moving more indoors. That increases the risk of transmission. There's also other variables that are difficult to predict. Changes in weather, humidity.

[News Reporter]

The CDC reporting nearly a third of tests are coming back positive for rhinovirus and enterovirus. Rhinovirus is a frequent cause of the common cold and enterovirus is a type of respiratory infection.

[Adam Curry]

There's also viral competition where last season we saw viral viruses rise, that means that we'll see other viruses decrease and that leaves the community with an immunity debt. That means that many of us had not seen these viruses in quite some time and that increases our risk of susceptibility.

[News Reporter]

While there's no vaccines for the common cold, there are ways to reduce your risk of catching or spreading it, Health care professionals say have good hygiene.

[Adam Curry]

Now notice what she says. While there's no vaccine in these viruses in quite some time and that increases our risk of susceptibility.

[News Reporter]

While there's no vaccines for the common cold, there are ways to reduce your risk of catching or spreading it, Healthcare professionals say have good hygiene, like washing your hands, covering your mouth when you cough or sneeze, opening windows for cleaner air, and staying at home from work or school if you're sick. Experts say flu activity typically follows, with illness rising at the start of October and peaking in December and February. And when it comes to the flu, healthcare professionals say the flu shot is the best defense against not only the flu, but also severe complications. It's recommended annually to everyone over the age of six months.

[Adam Curry]

So they went from, there's no vaccine for the cold, but you better get your shot for the flu.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's immunity debt supposed to mean?

[Adam Curry]

It's a great term. We have immunity debt because you're not vaccinating enough. Don't you get it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Immunity debt.

[Adam Curry]

Immunity debt, yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Immunity debt, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

It's a little too long for a show title, but. But I like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

You think immunity debt is all. Write it down. You think so? I mean, I like gen Z22.

[John C. Dvorak]

We already use zed. Didn't we use zed in a previous thing?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this. No, but that was just zed. Now it's Gen Z212.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's. That's. That's promoting something. I don't like it.

[Adam Curry]

I thought this finally Someone caught on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kill all humans so we can promote the AI slop.

[Adam Curry]

This. This trend has been bugging me for a while and the NBC Today show finally did a piece on it and I think it's kind of hilarious.

[News Reporter]

We're back. 739 today's consumer all about protein.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it is surging in a big way this year being added to all sorts of products.

[Adam Curry]

Even your morning cup of coffee's business and data correspondent Brian Chung here looking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Into the growing trend.

[Adam Curry]

It does seem like protein is omnipresent. Yeah.

[Guest/Expert]

And by the way, in your coffee they're doing cold foam and now also milk infused at least at Starbucks. So the latest to jump on this trend, announcing the releasing this line of protein powder drinks today. It's a move that many big names in the restaurant and retail business are making in the hopes of getting more customers in the door and boosting sales.

[Adam Curry]

Have you been following this? The protein drinks which is.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I have not been following this. And this obviously sounds like a native ad for some people.

[Adam Curry]

Of course it is. And it's. So they're adding milk or you would say milk product to fizzy drinks and it's protein. You have to have protein. And they actually have the. It's a roundabout way to get to the native ave. But here we go.

[Guest/Expert]

From sugarless to fat free. You think we'd seen it all.

[Adam Curry]

Yep, protein never tasted this good.

[Guest/Expert]

But the era of protein packed products has arrived. Though not everyone is on board.

[Adam Curry]

I just went to Walmart the other day and found out there's a protein popcorn. Why do I need protein in my popcorn?

[Guest/Expert]

Starting today, Starbucks is jumping on the bandwagon offering a new line of protein lattes made with boosted protein milk. But the coffee chain isn't the only big name capitalizing on the trend.

[News Reporter]

Lots of protein, all under 500 calories.

[Guest/Expert]

Subway's new fresh fit menu also joining the movement. If you are a restaurant right now is this kind of the hottest place to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you have a protein focused menu.

[Adam Curry]

That is considered healthy, it not only generates sales for the restaurant, it improves the consumer perception of that restaurant.

[Guest/Expert]

Retailers are also hoping to boost sales. Supermarket chain KRoger recently launched 80 new protein focused products under its simple truth brand. And PepsiCo announcing it will be adding protein to some of its name brands by the end of the year too.

[Adam Curry]

Do you want in on this? On what, dude? A protein shake.

[Guest/Expert]

I said let's buffing you up the push for protein. Even making an appearance on the small screen.

[News Reporter]

Vanilla farmer protein to the Phone screen.

[Guest/Expert]

With influencers and celebrities like Khloe Kardashian getting in on the craze promoting protein, protein products of their own.

[News Reporter]

Cloud popcorn. My protein popcorn.

[Guest/Expert]

And there's proof of the push. In a recent survey, 70% of Americans said they're trying to consume more protein. Yet health experts say where you get your protein from really matters.

[News Reporter]

Consumers might not be realizing that they're getting added sugars with the added protein. Whereas if you're eating eggs, meat, yogurt that's unsweetened, you're getting this protein source in a whole food form that's unprocessed.

[Adam Curry]

You see, we were told in the movie Idiocracy that it would be electrolytes from Gatorade. But it's protein. Everything has no agenda now with protein. Everything has got to have protein in it. And there's a reason. It took them a long time to get to it. But here's the payoff, the reason for all these products with protein. All right, so clearly it's the latest trend, but could there be anything else that might be driving, driving folks to get more protein or try and consume more protein? Yeah.

[Guest/Expert]

Well, Craig, these GLP1 drugs, I know zempic is a big reason behind this too. Because as people eat fewer meals as a result of being on these drugs, they want it to be more efficient trying to get as much protein as possible. That's the reason why I think a lot of these protein bars that are protein maxing get as many grams in one packaged item. That's a big story here. But for everyone else, I want to point out, doctors usually say you're getting enough protein as is. So you're going to try to do change your diet. Just make sure you talk to your doctor first.

[Adam Curry]

So all these freaks who are on GLP one can't eat them anymore.

[John C. Dvorak]

If I'm going to change my diet, I have to talk to my doctor.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, you should, right away.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey Doc, I'm going to have, there's a protein bar if I eat that. Is that something I should be aware of? Is something I should concern myself with? No, not really. We'll say by the way, the CO pay there, that's 50 bucks. Thanks.

[Adam Curry]

Everybody needs to have protein because they're not eating food anymore, so. Well, I can't eat because I'm, I'm puking from the, from Ozempic so I still not. I need to force down some protein. Gotta get some protein. Eat protein. If you're not gonna eat, you need protein. We have warned since the day these things came out, we said, this is not a good idea. Idea. This doesn't sound healthy. All of the bad side effects we've been tracking and I'm afraid that we're not going to get to the erectile dysfunction because now the GLP1s are in trouble.

[News Reporter]

Ozempic has exploded in popularity as both the diabetes and a weight loss drug. But now it's at the center of a legal blowback kind of situation.

[Adam Curry]

More than 18 kind of situation. What is that kind of situation?

[News Reporter]

Reporting to reporting of a legal blowback kind of situation. More than 1800 lawsuits have been filed over adverse side effects, with the liability estimated at more than $2 billion. Dropping the bucket expert Whitney Traylor is here to break this down. So let's talk first about the claims against Ozempic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, so we went back to school. So all these 1L students that just started law school, you're going to be learning about this stuff. This is a civil tort is what we're dealing with. So this is product liability complex civil litigation, mass tort liability. And essentially they're saying that, hey, you marketed this drug and you downplayed. They're claiming that they downplayed the potential harm that it would cause. Cause and it's causing these very severe side effects. And so people are now bringing these lawsuits. There's a bunch of. If you go online, you'll see a bunch of law firms just highlighting this case in particular. And actually it was over 1800, but as of this morning, I think it's 2,100.

[News Reporter]

How are the damages decided? Is it individually based? Do they look at the side effects? Like what. How does that even get decided on?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, well, that's why we have a jury system. And so the jury actually looks at that and they will decide a number of different factors. So, you know, there's a number of terrible side effects. Some people are going blind. They're having intestinal issues.

[Adam Curry]

Get him off the air.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're digestive issues, just some really severe type of issues. And the jury will come back and decide and say, hey, we think this is what it's worth. And so you have to keep calculate both the physical damage, the emotional distress, you know, the loss of consortium, then if people can't go to work, they're lost wages, if they can't provide for their family. So it's going to be different for different folks.

[Adam Curry]

So of course, the no Agenda show has been warning you about this, about these horrible side effects. And if you still didn't Listen to us. Don't worry because Rob, the constitutional lawyer, the boots and suits will be glad to sue these companies for you. No problemo. If you're. If you've gone blind, call Rob. Let me know. I'll forward your email to him. But luckily, luckily we have not one, but two disclaimers now. They're now 30 seconds of disclaimers. They're. They're starting to creep up a little bit. The disclaimer. The ads with their disclaimers. Here is the competitor to Ozempic Zepbound.

[News Reporter]

Tell your doctor if you get a lump or swelling in your neck. Stop setbound and call your doctor if you have severe stomach pain or a serious allergic reaction. Severe side effects may include inflamed pancreas or gallbladder problems. Tell your doctor if you are experiencing vision changes, taking sulfonylurea or insulin, having suicidal thoughts if you're nursing pregnant, plan to be, or taking birth control pills. Side effects include nausea, diarrhea and vomiting, which can cause dehydration and worsen teeth kidney problems.

[Adam Curry]

That doesn't sound too bad. Suicidal thoughts. How about this new one, which is Camzios Kamzios. Kamsios is if you have OHCs. I think it is obstructive hypertropic cardiomyopathy. I'm not sure what it is, but here's the. Here's the. Here's the drug disclaimer for it.

[News Reporter]

Chemos works by targeting what's causing OHCM and it's proven to reduce obstruction in the heart. 4 times more. ChemXios may cause serious side effects, including heart failure that can lead to death, a risk that's increased with serious infection, irregular heartbeat, or with certain other medicines. Do not stop, start or change medicines or dose without telling your doctor. You must have echocardiograms before and during treatment. Seek help for new or worsening heart failure symptoms. Chamzios is only available through a restricted program. Before taking Camzios, tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and current or planned pregnancy. Cam first in its class to treat symptomatic ohcm.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I mean, what. What happened to good old anal leakage? Now we've got death. Death. You might die. Give it a shot. You might die. Of course, it will be available at Trump Rx. Our president. He's. He's a. He's a hoot, man. Trump Rx really.gov I believe. I'm pretty sure it's.gov it's. It's better than a monument. Just get. Get a domain name trumprx.gov I went to CNBC to get the lowdown on the finances of this thing. Here we go.

[News Reporter]

Was President Trump announcing a drug pricing deal with Pfizer which will voluntarily sell its medications for less? Including discounted drug prices for Medicaid, Pfizer is up 5% on the news. Angelica People's joins now with more. There was a teaser too that other drug companies would have announcements to come also. That's what the president said. We haven't heard anything yet. I've been checking in. Nothing to announce there. But you know, this is interesting, right? Of course we've been hearing from all these companies. Yesterday we talked about it. Everyone's been saying they've been in negotiations. But today Pfizer the first company to actually strike a deal with the administration. So what's happening? They're committing to a few things. They're going to lower prices in Medicaid and then they are going, they're getting a three year exemption from tariffs on the condition that they invest more in the US they're also agreeing to sell some of the drugs for this new website called Trump Rx, which is a DTC direct to consumer platform. And they're also promising to launch new drugs at parity. So the same price here in the US as other countries. Now, it sounds like a big deal, but I do want to take a little bit of a measured approach here because some of these drugs, right, the drugs that they're selling directly to consumers, you know, only one of them is actually broken out in the earnings report. So these are older drugs. They don't make a lot of money. These are not the huge blockbusters that you might be familiar with. And so even though it sounds like, yes, these prices are coming down, these are significant discounts. Pfizer is not really giving up a whole lot here. And also Medicaid already gets the lowest prices around. So, you know, clearly this is working out for Pfizer and it gives uncertainty. You can see the stock move today, but not giving up a ton here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hmm. Yeah. Scam. Well, I have a report on the same thing, but this is from npr.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, what's it called? Oh, Trump announced his deal with Pfizer. Here we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

President Trump says he's making good on his promise to lower drug prices for Americans. He announced a deal with Pfizer on Tuesday and also announced a new government website called Trump rx. NPR pharmaceuticals correspondent Sidney Lupkin is following this. They have a pharmaceuticals correspondent?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, right next to the climate desk. I'm sure let's roll that back for a second here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pfizer on Tuesday and also announced a new government website called Trump Rx. NPR pharmaceuticals correspondent Sidney Lupkin is following this, says that needs be to. So what's in this deal?

[News Reporter]

The splashiest part involves Pfizer selling its drugs, such as Zeljanz for rheumatoid arthritis, directly to consumers at a discount. Consumers could access the deals through a website operated by the federal government called Trump Rx. Trump has talked about bringing drug prices in line with what other developed countries pay and making those other countries pay what he calls their fair share. Here's Trump at the press conference.

[John C. Dvorak]

The United States is done subsidizing the health care of the rest of the world.

[Adam Curry]

World.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a big thing. This is. I can't tell you how big this is.

[News Reporter]

The deal also includes discounts for Medicaid and a pledge from Pfizer to sell new drugs at the same price in the US as in other developed countries. Trump says similar deals with other drug makers are in the works.

[John C. Dvorak]

How did President Trump get the drug makers to come to the table?

[News Reporter]

Yeah, it started with an executive order back in May on what the president calls most favored nation drug pricing that would link you up US Prices to those elsewhere. Over the summer, he upped the ante with letters to 17 drug makers that gave them 60 days to come up with plans. And then came closed door negotiations. During the press conference, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Told reporters that negotiations went late into the night. Pfizer CEO Albert Borla was at the press conference too, by the way. He said this deal came with a three year grace period from certain tariffs. And he added that tariffs were the, quote, most powerful tool to motivate behaviors. So it's clear the threat of them played a role here, though the many details of the deal aren't public.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, and there's still no website, which is very bad form.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's supposed to be in December. They already said that.

[Adam Curry]

From. Here's this. Apparently Cuban who owns his own drug purchasing website, Cost Plus Drugs, says, I've been told it's just a listing site and won't actually sell any anything. So they'll just have links to other online.

[John C. Dvorak]

That would make sense.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's a marketing website. It's a landing page. Yeah, well, a landing page, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

At least it's consolidated. There's part two to this, by the way. But what would this mean for consumers then?

[News Reporter]

You know, a lot of them probably won't notice a difference In Medicaid, for instance, beneficiaries already pay very little or nothing for drugs. And it's not yet clear how much money the Medicaid part of the deal would save taxpayers. As for Trump Rx, direct to consumer prices mean that consumers are not using their health insurance. So while on average prices may drop 50% through Trump Rx, that's still 50% off a big number. And it still might be unaffordable. Insurance co pays could be cheaper, but if someone needs a drug that isn't covered by insurance and it's offered on Trump Rx, it might be an option.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, so when is Trump Rx supposed to get going?

[News Reporter]

Yeah, the Trump rx.gov website is supposed to launch in early 2026, and the new Medicaid prices are supposed to take effect around the same time. As for the promise of launching new drugs at the same price in the US as abroad, that's an ongoing process. In fact, some other companies have already said they'll do that. Bristol Myers Squibb, for instance, says its new schizophrenia drug will be sold at the same price in the UK as it is here. But that won't save American patients any money.

[Adam Curry]

New schizophrenia, a new schizophrenic drug is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Going to be sold cheaper. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Wow. New schizophrenic drug for all the schizophrenics.

[Adam Curry]

They worked that one in. Check is in the mail. Girl. Good job. Okay, what do we have?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I got a couple of things here. There's a couple of. For example, the man on the street was done by NTD asking people just randomly on one of the malls whether they think Trump's going to run for a third term. I thought this was amusing.

[Adam Curry]

You only want this in there because of the $500 bet you have with your son. Am I right?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I don't want it in there for that reason. I already got that bet. That's done?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Okay. You want a three.

[News Reporter]

Rowett, would you support President Trump running for a third term? Entity. Sam Wong was out on the national mall in D.C. to hear from the.

[Adam Curry]

People President Trump's been talking about potentially.

[John C. Dvorak]

Running for a third term. Perhaps a joke, perhaps not. Would you like to see that happen?

[Guest/Expert]

Yes, I would like to, but it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not going to happen.

[Adam Curry]

That's.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's not right. You know, he does say and do some things that even we don't agree.

[Adam Curry]

But I don't think that will happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

You say you would like to see that happen?

[News Reporter]

I Would like it.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[News Reporter]

He deserves to be in there because he's moving everything forward and that's great. Sure.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[News Reporter]

But I don't, I don't think he can not. But the, is it the 22nd Amendment?

[Adam Curry]

I'm not 100% sure. I don't even want to comment. I certainly think he will by the time it comes around it'll be legal. Legal to do so.

[Guest/Expert]

And would you be behind that?

[Adam Curry]

Hell no. You know, pretty soon only be Republicans.

[John C. Dvorak]

That can own guns too.

[Adam Curry]

President Trump has been talking about potentially running for a third term.

[Guest/Expert]

Would you be on board with that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm not a huge political person.

[Adam Curry]

But, you know, I'm very turned off.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the Democrats and just liberals and.

[Adam Curry]

Just all of that. I don't think anybody should be up beyond two terms.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's been a tradition in our, our country and I think it's been pretty well established.

[Adam Curry]

How about Vance 20, 28? What do you think? Ah, no, no, please.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

I don't have that many years. I don't have that many years left on this planet.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't want, I don't want this.

[Adam Curry]

To go down like this.

[John C. Dvorak]

I see that. I see that happening.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

Would you be supporting him?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[News Reporter]

Probably a continuation of what Trump has started, just, you know, finishing it out and carrying it through.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, I really, to be honest, don't know exactly what he's doing right now.

[Adam Curry]

I haven't really like followed his speeches or interviews. So if it's not Trump, then for sure Vance, you know, I won't close. Close off to it. I liked what he said a lot.

[John C. Dvorak]

More before the election than when he joined the ticket.

[Adam Curry]

So you're open minded.

[John C. Dvorak]

I try to be.

[Adam Curry]

How about Vance 20, 28? Yeah, that would be a good call.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a couple other guys that could.

[Guest/Expert]

Be in the running as well.

[Adam Curry]

We'll have to wait and see because.

[Guest/Expert]

We really don't know much about Vance right now.

[News Reporter]

But if you ever watch, do you, you ever watch his movie that he made about.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he didn't make it, but they.

[News Reporter]

Made it about his life and where he came from to where he is today. It was only God that did that, but I'm, I would definitely vote for.

[Adam Curry]

Him in 28 brother. Well, we could have done without that. Goodness gracious.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, here's another clip that should.

[Adam Curry]

That you'll be burked about. Make it funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is Crowder. Oh, who push him. Push. Puts himself back on the pedestal and he's complaining about, hey, you know, he he gets threatened, too. And you listen to this. This. This is what. But I didn't get any of the Tim Pool ones because Tim Pool's been saying the same thing. But Crowder stuff is, like, a little out there.

[Guest/Expert]

Crowder said he pulled back from these campus events due to security issues with those in the audience that opposed him turning violent.

[Adam Curry]

When I did change my mind, I started in 2016. The idea was, hey, calling the left on their bluff. Civil dialogue with anyone to the tune of billions of plays and hundreds of hours. And it got increasingly violent. And what I didn't tell people, I told people out there, go do this on your own campus. Have these conversations. I advocated for it. And Charlie took it to another level. Unbelievable at it. I didn't tell people about the threats because I didn't want copycats. I didn't tell them about terrorists from Yemen through Sweden showing up in East Grand Rapids. I didn't tell them about concrete milkshakes. I didn't tell them about my tires getting slashed, about people trying to firebomb my car.

[Guest/Expert]

Turning Point's national tour continues with some of the biggest conservative names, including Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and Glenn Beck.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have Yemen terrorists coming through Sweden.

[Adam Curry]

We have a term for a guy like this in the old country. We call it like a picker. Say it with me now. Lichen picker means.

[John C. Dvorak]

It means what?

[Adam Curry]

Means he's someone who picks off the remains of dead bodies. He's just trying to make a name for himself off of Charlie Kirk's assassination. I can't see it any other way. Oh, look at me. I'm so brave. Ugh.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I'm not going to argue with that, because I found the thing peculiar. What is a concrete milkshake?

[Adam Curry]

Whether it's a milkshake that has concrete in it and they throw it out at you, so it's like. Basically like a brick.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, they just throw a brick at you.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is just like a lot of work.

[Adam Curry]

This is disappointing. I saw him walking there with all his security guys. Oh, yeah. I'm a big man. I'm going on campus. Look at me. I'm so brave. I was doing it before Charlie. That's basically what he said.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's what he's. That was the theme there.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, now you've just bummed me out.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm going to show myself. Imagine all the people who could do that.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. Well, and since you played that clip, I'm going to force you to read all of the donations that came in, $50 and above for the people who love us and get value from this program, if they're still overlooked, you look.

[John C. Dvorak]

At the good news part of that. You overlooked the good news part of that.

[Adam Curry]

There was no good news.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. You gave us a new Dutch term like picker. Like a picker. Am I pronouncing it correctly?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, pretty good. Like a picker.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like a picker.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So like is a. Is a dead body. Picker is picking, you know, taking stuff from it. Like a picker. We need to use this like a picker.

[John C. Dvorak]

Interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Hey, thank our producers here, John.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, and starting with Amy harmon in Nashville, North Carolina, came in 177. 60. And she has this. She designates this as a Charlie Kirk freedom of speech donation.

[Adam Curry]

Like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Heidi Quant in Centerville, Virginia, 1415. And she's got a birthday call out and a note. Ash in Texas in Flower Mound, 13838. And this is a who Shot Junior donation.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there's two. Two people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Two people.

[Adam Curry]

Two people. Love it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Eric Hochul and Mulrose Deutschland. 104. That's good. He's up there. The top of the list now. Baron latican in Houston, Texas. 100. Kevin McLaughlin, the Duke of Luna, lover of America, lover of boobs in Concord, North Carolina. 8008. Dame Dana Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada. 7227. Greg Kohler in Evansville, Indiana. 66. Oh, I'm sorry. 6502. The chip donation. We get one of those every other show. Dame Nancy of the confused used.5721. Donating is good for the show and your soul. She writes.

[Adam Curry]

That's true. Fact, Dame.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fact. Dame Tracy and Sir Canebrake in St. George, Louisiana. 55. 10 double nickels on the dime. Surprise. Night of astonishment in Yukon, Oklahoma. 5,444. John Basano in Madison, Alabama. 52. 72. 2. Stephen Veneman. Veneman Veneman in Genoa, Illinois. 52. 71. And now we have $50 donors. We have a makeup. There's a lot of them today compared to. Yes, last show, which was four, I believe. Bobby Bosch. Bo. I'm sorry? Bobby Bo in Bluegrass, Iowa. These are all 50s. Leaf Thompson in Meridian, Idaho, Idaho. Nathan Noel in Nederland, Texas.

[Adam Curry]

Joshua Nederland.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been there.

[Adam Curry]

I know where it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nederland.

[Adam Curry]

Nederland. Nederland. Yes, Nederland.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it says Nederland.

[Adam Curry]

I know, but it's really Nederland.

[John C. Dvorak]

You need to have two E's instead of one. Joshua Johnson in Omaha, Terrence Clark in Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Tony Lang and Castle Pines, Colorado, Colorado. Scott McCarty in Lodi. Sean Pendergast in Vista, California. For Foster Birch in New York City. Daniel leboy in Bath, Michigan. Matt Frazee in St. John's Florida. And sir Luke Rayner. The east of London and the Southwest UK 50. Linda Walker in Roseburg, Oregon. $50? That's a Bitcoin donation.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not. It's just, oh, what's the green stripe, stripe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, stripe, stripe donation.

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our buddy over here in San Francisco, Eichi Kitagawa. And last on the list, Sir Michael in Snohomish, Washington. It's people that helped us do show. 1804.

[Adam Curry]

That's right, 1804. 18th anniversary coming up on the 26th of October. It's been quite the ride. Thank you all very much. And again, thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for this episode. And you can always support us at any time, anytime you feel like it. Whenever you're hitting the show, even months from now, like, I got some value. Let me send it back to them. Noagendadonations.com set up a recurring donation today. You'll see we actually have a layout night coming up. And that night we'll get a ring, of course, and all of the accoutrements that go with it. Any amount, any frequency, anytime you feel like it. Noagendadonations.com A real quick one. We only have one on the list. It doesn't happen often, but Heidi Quant wishes Stephen Milling a very happy birthday. He celebrates his 40th today and we celebrate with him. Happy Birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And not one but two Secretaries General with a jingle that says it wrong. But here we go. All hail to Secretaries Generals. Cuz they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary's Generals of the no Agenda show. You heard him earlier. Sir Donald the fire bottles came in with a Rebelizer donation and of course automatically becomes a Secretary General. He will henceforth be known as the Secretary General of Greater Idaho. And Sir Ako, it will now be known as the Secretary General of the Wand of Wabbits. The Wand of Wabbits, I should say. Secretary Generals. Go to Noah jennerrings.com let us know where to sit your certificate because it is official, you are now a Secretary General. Secretary General. Congratulations. All hail to the Secretary Generals. Cause they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary Generals on the Note Agenda show. And in today's segment, we also have three knights to bring up on stage including Peter Goodall who says John Adam, I'm writing to let you know that I've been listening since 2013. I was an irregular donor then decided to set a small bi monthly donation of $20.20 in the year 2020. In the year 2020. I made one small modification to it in 2022 and basically forgot about it since then. Well I just totaled up and has made me long overdue for a knighthood. After amassing the pricely sum of $2,211. Thank you very much I would like to be knighted Sir Slow and Steady as in slow and steady. Winning is the race if possible. Could I also get an associate producer credit for this current episode? I have to ask John.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think on a request like that, I think especially with the kind of overpaid for the knighthood, sure, why not.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, you consider it done. He says I would like to add it to my LinkedIn profile so you are good to go and let us bring out the swords. Here's mine. I'm always at the ready with my sword. Here you go, a nice blade. He brings out Peter Johnson, you're here here as well. Peter Goodall, step up sir and Commodore Semi Anonymous Vegan all of you support the no Agenda show in in excess in many cases of $1,000 or more. Therefore, I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate all of you as knights. Knight Peter of Castleberry, Sir Akko of the Land down under and Sir Slow and Steady Gentlemen, for you we have Hooked up and Blow Rent Boys and Chardonnay. A slice or two of Hawaiian and Margherita Pizza soon to be launched by 404 Pizza & Pomegranate Kombucha. Along with that, we've got Bung Hits and Bourbon Sparkling Cider Escorts, Ginger Italy and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pablo Men as always at the round table. The mutton and the mead. And you can head over to Noagendarings.com and let us know what ring size you have. There's a little guide there that shows you how to do it. And along with that we will send you some wax to use with your signet ring to seal your important correspondence and your and of course as always, a signed certificate of authenticity. Welcome to you three to the knights and the dames of the no Agenda Roundtable. And there's a party going on as we speak. Actually it's about to kick off the Northern Wake Pumpkin Spice Showdown in Raleigh, North Carolina. That'll be at 6:00 o' clock at Hoppy Endings. Go and check them out. On Saturday, the tiny amygdala of Anchorage. They will be uniting in Anchorage, Alaska at 2 o' clock at Campbell Park. Go there and send us a meetup report. You haven't heard from Anchorage in quite a while. I'd love to get a meetup report and include your server if you can. Coming up in the month of October on the 9th, Parker, Colorado, Johnson City, Texas on the 10th. It's right down the road about 45 minutes away. But Fredericksburg, Texas will be on the 11th and Tina the Keeper has confirmed she will be there as well at J6 or Jenny Place also on the 11th, Garden City, Idaho the 16th Charlotte, North Carolina Coleyville, Texas Colleyville, Texas on the 18th Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 18th Columbus, Ohio as well the 19th Lansing, Michigan Los Altos, California the 25th, the 26th Camphill, Pennsylvania the 31st Leiden in Zeit Holland, the Netherlands. And on the 15th of November. Is this another one that you're going to attend? John in Albany, California at the Mallard Club. That sounds like like it. John will be there. Those are the no Agenda meetups which you can [e-mail] Remember, when you go to a no agenda meetup you will make connections that will give you lifelong protection. These people will be your first responders in an emergency. Noagendametups.com if you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy. All the nights and days you wanna be where you won't be triggered on Hell.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a party.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah baby, it's like a party. Every single time. It's just like a party. And before we get to John's Tip of the Day and our outstanding end of show mixes, we like to select our ISOs here for the end of show. I have three, John has two. I'm sure they're a. So I'll just do my real people isos first.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is this true?

[Adam Curry]

Which I thought was pretty good. Kind of like that one. We have this one. I mean you can't make this up. Okay. And this one I thought was just funny. Brought to you by Pfizer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I like the Alex Jones one of the three.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, now I have.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know how this is AI or not, but this is the WAW wd.

[News Reporter]

What are we doing?

[Adam Curry]

No, it doesn't sound like AI. What are we doing?

[John C. Dvorak]

Because it's not.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

And this one here could be. It could be Just a real person. This is the Wowee clip.

[News Reporter]

Wowee. Faulty. What a fabulous show.

[Adam Curry]

No, that's AI. That is just so.

[John C. Dvorak]

AI. What?

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[News Reporter]

We.

[Adam Curry]

Faulty.

[News Reporter]

What a fabulous show.

[Adam Curry]

What is he even saying? Wowee. Faulty.

[News Reporter]

Wowee.

[Adam Curry]

Faulty.

[News Reporter]

What a fabulous show.

[Adam Curry]

Who's faulty?

[John C. Dvorak]

What I put in there was wowie. And then basically a random number of letters, just gibberish to see what it would say.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And I don't like it. I mean, you can't make this up. Okay, I think that's the one we're gonna have to go with. Hey, everybody, it's time for John's tip of the day. And sometimes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is a screwball tip. This is something I didn't think I'd ever do, but I'm going to do it, okay? I'm going to recommend that people go watch a PBS show.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

And you can get it over on Amazon Prime. They have it over there and it's on the pbs. You can. You can dig it up. But it is a terrific show that everyone who listens to no Agenda should watch. This is. It's a recent American experience called the Hard Hat Ride Riots. And it's about the Hard Hat Riots in New York in the late 60s, early 70s, which is a history. A lot of it I didn't. I was completely unaware of. It was. It was. It was. A lot of the stories were suppressed. They were not in the media. But it's the genesis during the Nixon administration, the genesis of the working class moving toward the Republican Party. How it all came about, how the Democrats had switched over to just pretty much supporting the banker class. Right in that moment when the CIA came in during the Russ Baker, in that Russ Baker book and pointed out the fact the CIA was behind the Watergate scandal, which got Nixon kicked out, made him quit, and so they got back on track. Called again, it's called the Hard Hat Riots. It's one of the best histories I've seen. I know part of it. I was there. Yeah, pretty much.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I don't. I'm watching this going, this is all news to me. It's fascinating.

[Adam Curry]

Huh? Is that like the. The OG people Sick Day? Is that kind of what that is?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. No, not at all. Actually, it was about. It was not about any. It's just. It's. It's an unimaginably good documentary on the.

[Adam Curry]

American experience, considering it's from PBS and you're promoting it. It really must be a doozy.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is a doozy. It's a killer.

[Adam Curry]

I love it. There it is, everybody. John's tip of the day. Find them [e-mail] and sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnetti. And there you go. That is our show for today. I saw Hakeem Jeffries do a press conference, so more sombrero will be forthcoming by this evening, I'm sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

No doubt about it. Ricardo.

[Adam Curry]

I was thinking about Mucho Retardo as a show title.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mucho Retardo is a good show title.

[Adam Curry]

It's not bad. Decent idea. Hey. Coming up next on the no Agenda stream, it's Nick the Rat from the sewers of New York City. This is his 508th episode. It's titled Dill Slop. So you got to wonder what that's about. So stay tuned for it on your modern podcast app or if you're listening to the stream right now directly. No, it's agendastream.com end of show mixes. Agent Looper is back with some thoughts and prayers and Jeffrey Crocker with a great, a great parody. It's been a while. The jury is still out whether it's AI or if he really can sing like that. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country in picturesque Fredericksburg, where it is Oktoberfest, everybody, in the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry, here from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

We'll talk to you on Sunday with another 1, 2, 3 hours of media deconstruction. Until then, remember [e-mail] Adios Mo Fos a hoo, hooey and such.

[News Reporter]

Gather round, gather round, gather round, gather round Join hands and bow our heads I posted a video offering thoughts and prayers.

[Adam Curry]

Thoughts and prayers, thoughts. I met her in a school in the north of France where she taught me to act and wear tighter pants to see my boner B O n a bona. She walked up to me and she.

[John C. Dvorak]

Asked me to dance she asked me my name and in a high pitched.

[Adam Curry]

Voice I said my well, I'm not the world's most physical guy but when she squeezed me tight I knew that.

[John C. Dvorak]

She'D be Mrs. McRona up.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not dumb But I can't understand why she walked like a woman but talk like a man well, we drank champagne.

[Adam Curry]

And danced all night under electric candlelight.

[John C. Dvorak]

She picked me up and sat me.

[Adam Curry]

On her knee and said Little boy, won't you come home with me? Well, I'm not the world's most passionate guy but when I looked in her eyes I asked I had to make Mrs. McCrone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ma. Ma. Macrona. Mama. Mama. Crona. Bridget Macrona.

[Adam Curry]

Mama. Mama.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mama.

[Adam Curry]

Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org/n a I mean, you can't make this up, okay?