No Agenda Show – Episode 1816 – "Boomer Knowledge"

Date: November 13, 2025
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Theme: Deconstructing Media, Late-Night Politics, Media Manipulation, Boomer & Gen Z Knowledge

Overview

This episode of the No Agenda Show, titled "Boomer Knowledge," offers a characteristically wide-ranging and incisive breakdown of current political, media, and cultural phenomena. Adam and John deconstruct media narratives around Jeffrey Epstein, explore the inner workings of late-night TV with a deep dive into Jimmy Kimmel's family dynamics, analysis of Western media propaganda, and provide the customary blend of inside jokes, historical context, and value-for-value listener engagement.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Merchandise, Marketing, and Podcast Grifts

Time: 00:41 – 09:42

• Discussion on incompetent podcast pitches (Stone McGee email), highlighting how AI-generated or generic spam attempts to sell merch are not only ineffective but erode trust.

  "That is the kind of pathetic pitch... it's a negative. If you get a pitch from a guy like this, you would never do business with him because this is just a moment of incompetence." – Adam [04:33]

• Value-for-value as the foundational No Agenda model: merch doesn’t scale, repeat buyers disappear fast, and physical products like challenge coins and rings are the only sustainable, unique collectibles.

• Anecdote about challenge coins and hypothetical future appearances on Antiques Roadshow:

  "At some point, like a hundred years from now, people... will discover them and it'll be on Antiques Road Show." – Adam [09:11]

2. The Epstein–Trump–Media Frenzy

Time: 09:47 – 21:24

• Deconstruction of the latest media cycle regarding Jeffrey Epstein’s emails referencing Donald Trump. Adam and John critique the framing of media reports, focusing on the suggestive and manipulative language used (e.g., “threaten to raise questions”).

  "Why don't they just raise questions? What do they have to threaten to do it?" – Adam [13:18]

• Analysis of international news coverage (France 24, BBC, CNN) and comparison of subtle bias, especially regarding Trump's involvement or knowledge.

• Critique of CNN’s use of archive footage and quotes that don't support a narrative (“Trump was Epstein’s ‘wingman’”):

  “This is one of those classic examples where the host says one thing and... the clip doesn't say it at all." – Adam [17:01]

• Reference to the "Inverse Fredericksburg Theory"—if the consensus says something will happen in 90 days, it will instead end immediately:

  "That's the inverse Fredericksburg theme." – Adam [19:39]

3. North Sea Nexus and British Monarchy as ‘Deep State’

Time: 21:19 – 28:09; 45:26 – 83:16 (Multiple Segments)

• Banter about terminology: Should “North Sea Nexus” include Spain? John is attached due to jingle creation.

• Critique of the use of “deep state” to describe the UK monarchy, arguing that monarchy is a “surface state”—not hidden at all.

  "I don't think the deep state is a deep state when it's the monarchy... it's the most upfront deep state you can imagine." – Adam [70:16]

• Liz Truss interview is dissected, exposing “deep state” bureaucracy, Bank of England’s unaccountable economic power, and the unelected technocratic element that governs the UK.

  “The government is controlled by the permanent bureaucracy, by the civil service.” – Liz Truss [72:29]

• Introduction to Richard Poe's history theory: The British invented communism to blame the Jews, established the NGO infrastructure for revolution, and funded secret societies for world influence.

  “The British did The same thing to the French that they later did to Russia.” – Richard Poe via John [80:46]

4. Late-Night TV, Boomer Knowledge, and Kimmel’s Family Struggle

Time: 25:41 – 45:18

• Deep Dive: A lengthy deconstruction of a podcast episode featuring Jimmy Kimmel and his wife (Molly McNearney) interviewed by famous lesbian neighbors Glennon Doyle, Abby Wambach, and Amanda Doyle.

  • Molly’s emotional hang-ups about her conservative/Episcopalian family’s voting for Trump; her resentment, anger, and loss of familial connections over politics.

    “To me, them voting for Trump is them not voting for my husband and me and our family.” – Molly McNearney [30:56]

  • Self-brainwashing and family indoctrination are dissected, including how Kimmel and McNearney explain his job loss to their children and blame Trump (false).

    “Our son asked if the president had done this... We both said yes... and that's a lie.” – Adam [36:09]

  • John laments:

    “No, this is not gonna be uplifting. I'll just give you that warning. It's pathetic... and she's always scolding him... he's a beaten man and it's almost pathetic to watch.” – Adam [31:21]

  • Molly’s admiration for her lesbian neighbors (while being embarrassed to identify as Jimmy Kimmel’s wife) is used as a window into class-motivated social hierarchies.

  • Overall, Adam diagnoses Molly (half-jokingly) as resenting everything, not fond of family, the right, or even her own husband, which they argue is reflected in the Kimmel Show’s demise.

5. Media Manipulation & The BBC/Digital Law

• Damning BBC Edits: The BBC was exposed for splicing together Trump quotes taken nearly an hour apart to fabricate a call to insurrection shortly before the 2024 election.

  “The BBC spliced together two clips that took place 54 minutes apart...” – John [61:59]

• State media subsidies & control in EU:
  (164:10) - Discussion of the EU's “Media Freedom Act” — which, in Orwellian fashion, centralizes media grants and state control, while mandating data collection and cash restrictions under its “freedom” flag.

6. Boomer knowledge, Gen Z, and the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect

Time: 84:28 – 96:07

• Adam and John discuss the “Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect:” readers recognize inaccuracies in media about subjects they know well, but trust stories on unfamiliar topics in the same publication.

  “We are susceptible to this too... we have tons of [producer] feedback... we try to reflect reality as best we can, I think better than anybody else.” – Adam [93:02]

• Example: Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein misstate the origins of podcasting, reinforcing the Gell-Mann effect for Adam (who invented podcasting’s technical infrastructure).

7. Listener Engagement & Value for Value

• Recurring acknowledgment of the value-for-value model, donations, and meetups. Regular reminders that modern podcast apps (e.g., Fountain, Podverse) provide notification immediacy.

8. Political and Economic Speculation

• 50-Year Mortgages: Skepticism about proposed 50-year mortgage plans, viewing them as a scam to benefit banks and perpetuate debt.

• Democratic Party Maneuvering & the 2028 Election: Schumer, Newsom, and AOC’s future political roles are speculated; Schumer seen as the not-so-obvious mastermind behind Democratic strategies.

9. Healthcare/Insurance System Critique

• Listeners write in about the absurdities of US healthcare billing, pricing, and insurance mandates, especially state-imposed penalties for lacking insurance.

10. Urban Drone Warfare

[115:17 – 119:09]

• A Pentagon source shared with John confirms the future of warfare is urban “drone-on-drone” battle, not conventional armies, leading to speculation about new forms of city sieges.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You can’t get repeat customers… then you’re stuck with a pile of T-shirts.” – Adam [07:14]
• “We’re not lying. Kimmel lied probably with her writing about how it was a Trumper that killed Charlie Kirk and it wasn’t.” – Adam [39:28]
• “She obviously doesn’t like men, doesn’t like her husband, she doesn’t like anything... This is a horrible person. And she runs the Jimmy Kimmel Show.” – Adam [45:18]
• “I think we have to come to grips with this... confrontation is always saddening.” – John [42:05]
• “We are old boomers. We don’t know who the famous young lesbian authors are.” – John [23:37]
• “They are people with an agenda who have huge amounts of unelected power.” – Liz Truss (via John) [76:51]
• “It’s the same system we see today. We’ve got NGOs everywhere now.” – John [82:59]
• “This is why late night television is dying, everyone is a warrior.” – John [39:14]
• “We have infected her (Heather Heying). We are inside her brain somewhere, possibly.” – John [92:40]
• “When you see a stop sign, donate to the No Agenda Show.” – John [145:15]
• “We both commented on this to each other. He (art contributor Jeffrey Ria) is overdue. The guy does so much work. It's so hard. You bitch and moan constantly about it.” – Adam [129:12]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Podcast Pitch/Stone McGee email: 00:41 – 04:53
• Merchandise challenges & challenge coins: 06:25 – 09:11
• Epstein–Trump Media Deconstruction: 09:47 – 21:24
• Kimmel & Wife Podcast Dissection: 25:41 – 45:18 (climax at 43:33–45:18)
• British Deep State & Liz Truss Interview: 70:16 – 76:51
• Gell-Mann Amnesia & Media Literacy: 84:28 – 96:07
• Urban Drone Warfare: 115:17 – 119:09

Tone and Style

Adam and John alternately strike a sardonic and deadpan tone, blending serious media deconstruction with running gags, deep historical references, and affectionate mockery of generational divides. Their “boomer knowledge” is invoked humorously while also being offered as critical to understanding history and media manipulation.

Conclusion

In this episode, “Boomer Knowledge” is not just a theme but a tool: the show leverages generational experience to cut through hype, expose manipulation, and remind listeners of both history’s repeating scams and the enduring power of a self-sustaining, participatory media community.

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