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I'm only a dime bag of potato chips.
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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, it's Sunday, January 4, 2026. It's your award winning Kibble Nation Media Assassination Episode 1831.
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This is no Agenda.
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Bathing in warm collectivism and broadcasting live from the heart of the textile country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where they're all crying to bring back Maduro, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzz in the morning.
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Yeah. Finally something good happens. It's not on a show day. That was good. I was well timed, Mr. President.
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It was.
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And, and right after the oil baron called it, everybody picked up on that. Hey, man, Trump must be listening to you guys.
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He might be.
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It was hilarious. No, this is good. Everyone's checking in.
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Yeah.
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What did the boys have to say about it?
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Felt like I have a ton too many. I have way too many clips on this. Well, you do. I've gotten, I've gotten the. I caught it right at the beginning, luckily, because it was, I was working on the newsletter and could have easily have missed it because it took, it was fast. This is. Yeah, they grab the guy. They make a lot of explosions.
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No, no, no, no, they didn't grab him, they captured him. Words matter. Captured, kidnapped, extracted is the way I saw it. But we'll get to that.
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I, you know, I was thinking the same word. I was going to bring it up. Hope you beat me to it. Which is, was it an extraction?
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I think so. I think so. There's a lot of things to this. And the reason why I say extraction, I don't know if you saw. There was some video that I caught of him, Maduro being walked down the. Some hallway in New York and he's like, hey, everybody, Happy New Year. Now, of course, that could have been AI who knows? But it looked authentic. And I'm thinking he's, he's going to spill the goods on smartmatic and Dominion. You know, that would certainly get him a better deal.
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Yeah. And he has proved the 2020 election was rigged. Boom, he's good to go.
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That's what I thought would be an interesting one. But the thing that really bothered me about all of this is our pre. Even Marco Rubio. And when you've gone through your clips, I have some of the stuff from the morning shows from this morning from Stephanopoulos and Manhans Welker with Rubio, who is, who is good. I mean, Rubio is Just, he's, he, he is very good when it comes to.
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He's amazingly slick.
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He is very slick.
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But, well, he's. He's another one. He's a performer. He was, you know, a dancer.
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Dancer, yes. He's another. He's another tiny dancer. The thing that bothers me is that no one ever explains the simple history. And I'm going to give you a little audible, a spoken word history from like 1990, it doesn't take very long because when it comes to what this really was about, and I'm pretty sure we can both agree that there's a lot of North Sea Nexus stuff that's in here. What are the British banking connections, you know, what are the real drug flows? All of that's going to be interesting. The smartmatic software, Dominion voting machines, and yes, the oil. And the president just. I don't know why he. I mean, he could do it. He could just explain how they stole our oil, but instead he just says this.
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We're going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition. We're going to have our very large United States oil companies, the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure, the oil infrastructure, and start making money for the country. We built Venezuela oil industry with American talent, drive and skill. And the socialist regime stole it from us during those previous administrations and they stole it through force. This constituted one of the largest thefts of American property in the history of our country.
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Absolutely true. But no one explains it. Rubio doesn't explain it. Hegseth can't explain it. He's just going f around and find out. Mr. Effers. Yeah, okay. We like that. They got all the ladies all. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's a tough guy. The news media won't tell you, of course. So let me just give a quick brief rundown interject if you hear I said anything wrong. But I think it's. I mean, because this goes back to 1976, but if we stay in 1990, it goes before.
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It goes actually way back.
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It's a 45, 47 or something. It goes way back. Back. But in 1990, US oil companies, Chevron, Conoco, Philip ConocoPhillips and ExxonMobil, they decided we're going to invest in production, in extraction. Production of this. I mean, I've seen video this really thick tar like oil, which. It's just goo, man.
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It's classic Brent.
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It's. It's goo.
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So that any all the stuff that comes out of the ocean typically is. Looks like that.
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And it was a really big risk. At the time, oil prices were around 40, $50. They varied one year to the other, but on average. So they set up Venezuela, set up pdvsa and they signed the contracts with these three big companies with massive investment in the Orinoco belt. And the deal was pretty simple. Venezuela has 100% ownership over the oil, but we do a 60, 40 split. So American companies get 60% and Venezuela gets 40. And they put up the billions of dollars to set all up. Everybody was happy, especially in 2000, oil prices start rising. It's at a hundred. And then Chavez, the predecessor to Maduro, he declares the Bolivarian Revolution. And hey everybody, we're super socialist now. We're going to give you everything for free. Sound like Mandami? It's going to be fantastic. It's groovy. 201, 2001, they implemented new laws and PDVSA is now control of operations. And they kicked out the US management in 2002. This is the, the Venezuelan petroleum company. The employees actually protested and went on strike. They said, you can't do this. Companies that refused. There was only one really. I think Chevron had all their assets frozen. Everything was taken over. And then oil revenues collapsed by 75% because no one knew how to operate this stuff. Chavez broke. Even better. Chavez broke the strike, fired 18 engineers and rig workers, and he changed the split 70% for us, 30%, like around. Some say a little less, like 28%, but around 30% for the US companies. But we're also doubling the royalties, so you gotta pay us 30% royalties and there's a 50% tax rate on everything you make. So they were losing money. 2007, Chavez seizes all the oil assets. These companies could only file lawsuits and they went to international courts. And they eventually won after five years. But they got about a billion doll, so it was no good. Everyone lost their shirts on it. And then the PDVSA oil company becomes bloated, mismanaged, rife with corruption. Production has now fallen to less than 25%. 2013, Chavez dies. In comes Maduro, a literal bus driver who had worked his way through the system.
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And because the he was Chavez's handpick.
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Yeah, but the guy was a bus driver. So these social programs, they're not doing so well with this lower revenue. So they start printing money. Ultimately this, this number over time was mind blowing to me. 1.3 million percent inflation of the Bolivar. So Maduro of course, you know, be like, well, I got to diversify. Let's get some drug money in there now in 2002. And, you know, so the. The. The price, it's bad news for Maduro because oil just went down in the tank when he came in. It was like, perfect. A perfect storm. 2002, ExxonMobil scores big in Guyana right next door. This is. No one's mentioning this, really. 2023, Maduro says Esquibo region that's actually ours, and moves troops to the border. And in 2025, just as Trump gets in, he's ratcheting up the heat. He's like, we're taking over. This is Venezuelan territory. And, you know, and so we didn't really cover much of this, but it was happening. And so, of course, you know, Trump's like, no, you're not gonna. You already stole the first batch. You're not gonna steal anymore. And that's really what it is, because we need it, I think. Isn't diesel made from this stuff? Is this the kind of stuff you make diesel out of?
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No, you can make diesel from anything.
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But is it cheaper to make it from this?
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Not really. It's a hard. It's a. It's a tough product of. You need special refining to. To work this stuff. You have to. For one thing, you need cracking.
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Cracking?
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Yeah, you need to crack it. Because normally with regular crude, you can just run it through it. Especially if it's super light, you can run it through, distill as you distill it, and you get all the different cuts. And the cuts are gasoline and diesel and kerosene.
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But it's quite a process to get.
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The heavy duty stuff busted up. So you can distill it. You don't distill it heavy. You run it through a cracker, which is a big giant. It's catalytic. It's usually catalytic cracking. And you run the substitutes through platinum and a bunch of other things in it, and it busts it up into a liquid that's a little more refinable.
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Okay.
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And that's the expensive part. So meanwhile, not that anyone cares, but that's pretty much.
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Meanwhile, what's been happening is China and Russia, they're all getting oil from there. They're all making. It was hilarious to see the Chinese delegation just hours before they capture Maduro. And the Chinese like, all right, we're out of here.
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We're.
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We got nothing to do with this.
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You know, people pointed out that this was like, the Chinese always. They do this constantly. They don't want to get involved. No, hell breaks loose. And, and they gave a number of examples of this, but the one they keep forgetting which we bring up on the show is the one in Libya.
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Yes.
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Where they had this whole area, they were building up these big buildings and everything. They just took off.
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There's bye, we got, we don't want. And they're very non confrontational, the Chinese. So now I will say January 3rd. This actually comes from our. I have a new contact, former five, former six, not sure yet. She's a producer, she listens. I think she's. I know she's a spook, but I'm not sure if she's MI, MI5 or MI6. I believe she's retired. She said coincidentally January 3rd is significant. 36 years ago, Noriega surrendered to US forces after hiding in the Vatican Embassy. Flown to Miami on drugs charges. Same date, January 3rd. Trump likes significant dates. So I thought that was an interesting observation. Also just earlier, let me see, when did this happen? I think it happened December 1st. A US judge authorized the sale of shares in Venezuela owned parent company of Citgo Petroleum to Elliott Investment Management for $5.9 billion. This is, what's the guy's name? He's a big Trump donor. Who's the, I forget his name now.
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When was this? When, when did this deal go through?
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This happened December 1st. Elliott investment man. Hold on, let me just check. I had it written down here somewhere. It's when I say the name you go, oh yeah, yeah, that guy who we are. Here we go. What's this guy's name? Paul Singer. There you go. Oh yeah, Paul Singer, Paul Singer, big Trump donor.
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So he knew something.
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He clearly knew something. Well, I mean it was a court case, so maybe they waited for it. I don't know. They said that they had this ready for five or six weeks, but maybe they waited for that to be cleared up just in case. But I think the next. And we'll get into your clips now, I think and whenever you want me to play some, some stuff from the morning show.
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Well, I'm gonna have you play something right now since you just mentioned Paul Singer. But I don't want you to finish, I don't want you to finish yet.
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No.
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In other words, you got more to say. But you, but because you played Paul Singer. Play, play this Poly Market clip.
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Poly Market.
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Looks like we have another Nancy Pelosi on our hands because last night, before US forces captured Venezuela's president, Maduro said someone placed a bet on Polymarket that that was going to happen and they won big. This Poly Market account that was created less than a month ago in December yesterday bet $30,000 that Maduro was going to no longer be the president of Venezuela. And then overnight the US captures him and this user comes up on a fat $400,000. What are the odds? Now, because of the stock act in 2012, elected officials do have to report their stock trading activities. But Poly Market is a big fat loophole. Under the Stock act, elected officials have to report stocks, bonds, ETFs, and even crypto assets. But because Poly Markets, a predictive betting app, well, it falls into a gray zone. 20, 26 goes. I'd say keep your eye on Poly Market for any insider trading versus the stock stock market. Who do you think made this bet? As always, let me know down below.
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Why are you yelling at me? Is that a news clip or is that a TikTok thing?
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It was some. It was on Twitter, but it's a. This girl follows this stuff and, and yeah, it was a prop bet.
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Well, I think we need to pay attention to Trump's dates. That goes Back to our MI6 lady, January 3rd, Trump, like.
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That. Maybe it was her.
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Maybe it was her. I don't know. Well, somebody, she brings it up for a reason. I mean, why is she telling me this?
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You know, it's likes the show and we're also fed information for the purposes of bringing it up on the show.
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She loves the show. I think she's actually a dame, to be honest about. I won't say who she is, but I'm pretty sure she's a dame.
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Well, but she's not that we're not fed, you know, we, we're not read in. We should make mention to people that we're at. We're, we do amateur work. We're not read in. We're not read in.
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No agenda show. We're amateurs.
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It's not a bad thing. We're not read in.
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No, we're not. Not. But we're deconstructed. Yeah. Oh, we are Fed. Yes.
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Yeah, so, but we know we're Fed, so don't worry about it.
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Yeah, we're fed. Fed slop. There you go. So the next 96 hours, of course, are going to be crucial. And then I have clips for later about what they're saying and who's running it, what's really going to happen because, you know, I'm sure it appears that the Venezuelans are very happy. Ding dong, the witch is dead. But they're Hungry. And, and here's the interesting thing that, that I stumbled upon. So the, the US Dollar basically is the currency in Venezuela. People are using it because the Bolivar is you know, Weimar Republic status at this point.
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Yes, junk.
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But the US Government, I thought they.
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Actually had switched to something called a rial.
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Well everything I found is that people are just using US Dollar bills. Tens, twenties, singles, fives.
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Yeah, well if you had the opportunity, that's what you do.
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But they actually starting in Covid days there was a pilot by USDC that's a stablecoin via the treasury and the State Department for the heroes of health program. They bypassed Maduro's regime banking system to send millions of dollars, I think it was six or seven million dollars directly to the digital wallets of 60,000 doctors and nurses who were using the system. And I'm thinking this might be a great moment to launch the stablecoin or to the.
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It's already been launched.
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Well but the stablecoin gambit, I don't think it's really been launched that way with the treasury, with the government's endorsement and selling new treasury bonds, short term bonds against it and if anything. So the rails are kind of in place. You're right. But it just may be airdrop. Hey Venezuela, we're going to airdrop you some tokens. I don't know, it feels like a perfect storm. So you've got analysis, all kinds of stuff from, from the days leading up to today's show which let's be honest.
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Was one mostly came from yesterday.
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One day.
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One day.
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So hit it. And then whenever you're ready I'll jump in with some of the. The morning shows.
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Yeah, I think you definitely have. The morning stuff is going to be good. Let's start with the overview by going to Maduro grab on pbs.
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Okay.
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There are moments in time when history possibly pivots. And today, in a stunning act of regime change, the US Regime change captured and brought Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro to US Soil. Not long after that, in a remarkable declaration, President Trump announced the US Would quote, run Venezuela and warned of a new era of United States domination over Latin America. We will get an on the ground report from Venezuela's capital Caracas in a moment, but we begin our coverage with Nick Schifrin.
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It was just after midnight over Caracas when U. S helicopters with Delta 4 soldiers descended toward Nicolas Maduro's compound. Nearby, residents filmed and cowered from U. S Strikes on at least four locations. All part of the mission to capture and Extract Maduro by 2am Local, they had him. Whoa, whoa. Did you hear that? So first they used the bogus regime change, but then all part of the mission to capture and extract Maduro. Extract. They use the E word. They use the E word. Extract. The mission to capture and extract Maduro. By 2:00am local, they had him. And by 3:00am he was shackled aboard the USS Iwo Jima, the dictator turned detainee of the U.S. department of Justice. U.S. military officials said U.S. helicopters took fire as they left Venezuela but remained able to fly. A source Familiar tells PBS NewsHour a small CIA team arrived in August and created extraordinary insight into Maduro's pattern of life that made grabbing him seamless. So first of all, kudos for the Nat Pops on pbs. Well done. And this was a Nat Pop extravaganza. It was just perfect. Even the President was saying, I watched it on tv. It was like a. Like a TV show. Was great, was awesome. I think you'll never see it, but I saw it. It was good. And what was at the very end of that clip, what did he say? Right here. Our a small CIA team. Oh, yeah, the CIA guys. From what I understand, they had infiltrated Maduro's inner circle.
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Yeah. That's the only way they could figure out where he was.
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So interesting that the CIA might be cooperating now these days.
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I think the whole thing is a CIA deal.
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Oh, most of it has to be.
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And I think I suggested in the last show that there was a cooperation going on.
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Well, they've been living in the region for 50 years. They never left.
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Not only that, but CIA has always been. Some of their superior work has been.
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In South America in quote, air, quote, superior work.
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Well, it depends on what you're.
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Depends on where you are. Yes, exactly.
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But the Guatemala. Guatemala, where they pretended there was a. You know, they somehow got the whole of the media and convinced everybody that the soldier, the forces were coming and nobody was showing up. And they. But they abandoned.
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Good job.
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Good job spooks in this case. And I think they're at work. And it comes out in some of these clips that they're at work at doing some other stuff. And I'm now thinking they're at work. I'll bring it up later and talk it because I got a nasty note from somebody, a Canadian.
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Well, hello.
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Well, they complain Canadian about our Alberta.
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Oh. Oh, interesting.
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So I think the CIA may be.
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In Alberta and they're probably in Greenland.
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Well, they did. There's not much to do in Greenland.
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Hang out, fish, tell people to let The Americans buy them. It's just a thought.
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I'm sure there's nobody.
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Maybe there's one or two.
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Again with part two. This was one of the most stunning, effective and powerful displays of American military.
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Might and competence in Palm beach today, after he and his team watched the operation unfold overnight, President Trump announced the operation was not only about regime change.
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We are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.
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President Trump said. Secretary of State Marco Rubio had spoken to Venezuelan Vice President Del C. Rodriguez, who was sworn in to replace Maduro.
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She had a long conversation with Marco and she said, we'll do whatever you need. I think she was quite gracious, but she really doesn't have a choice.
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But at least publicly today, Rodriguez rejected that.
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We demand the immediate release of President Nicolas Maduro and his wife, Celia Flores. The only president of Venezuela is President Nicolas Maduro.
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Now time for the thumb screws. She's not, doesn't sound like she's cooperating.
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Well, you don't know that. This wasn't a setup. So she can keep the people in line around her. She can't because she's surrounded by a bunch of stooges that would shoot her torturers and all kinds of bad actors that Maduro has accumulated as part of his drug cartel. And so she has to play bad girl, at least in front of the that audience. So I, I, I, I take all this with a grain of salt, one way or the other.
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I love the trolls. She's Sephardic as well. Okay. Yeah, I'm sorry. Forgot to mention that Netanyahu ordered this strike. Yes, I forgot to, forgot to mention that Israel's behind this party.
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Yes.
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Yeah, he was straight up trolls. That's it. And that's exactly what's going on.
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If the best analysis you can do is everything's a Jews, you might as well just. What, what's the point of even listening to our show?
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Well, just doing it, else when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
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On the final clip.
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And President Trump made clear part of the plan was to take Venezuela's oil. The country has the world's largest oil reserves, which the US Helped develop exactly one century ago. The former leader Hugo Chavez kicked out some US and other foreign energy companies. And today the industry produces a fraction of its capacity, going to be replacing it.
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And we're going to take a lot of money out so that we can take care of the country.
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But the President made clear today was not only about Venezuela. This was about displaying an ability and willingness to enforce regional domination and embracing the early 19th century declaration by President Monroe to block foreign colonialism in the Americas.
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They now call it the Don Row document. I don't know. Under our new national security strategy, American dominance in the Western Hemisphere will never be questioned again.
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Rubio made clear the next possible target.
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Yeah, look, if I lived in Havana and I was in the government, I'd be concerned.
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And to critics who question whether a president who was elected in part to avoid foreign entanglements, why is running a country in South America America First?
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Well, I think it is because we want to surround ourselves with good neighbors. We want to surround ourself with stability. We want to surround ourself with energy. We have tremendous energy in that country.
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Regime change, not for democracy, but for energy and for its own sake, as the question tonight in Caracas and perhaps around the world. Now. What? Well, let's just address this for one second. The oil baron, who is 60% gas, 40% oil, he says this is not good for us. He says oil is going to drop even further, which, surprise, surprise, is good for America because that lowers prices on everything, in theory. I mean, I don't think grocery prices actually ever go lower ever. But they could.
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They fluctuate enough so that it's noticeable.
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This might be a good time to just bring in one clip from Manhans Welker on Meet the Press with Marjorie Taylor Greene about the America first question.
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I think is a perfect time.
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President Trump says he gets to decide what America first means. Does America first mean whatever?
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Wait, wait, stop. When did he ever say that? Did Trump come out and say, I.
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Don'T think he said that?
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Well, she just claimed that he did.
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Well, you meant to say she falsely claimed.
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She fought. You're right. You're exactly correct. I meant to say she falsely claimed.
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Yes. In fact, she played that very clip. And that's her extrapolation by saying, well, President Trump tells us he gets to say what America first means, but we know that this is America. And the Don Roe Doctrine, they call it.
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You know, Don Roe Doctrine is hilarious.
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And he made it up himself. I didn't hear anyone else say it until he said it. You know, they say it's the Don Roe Doctrine. I don't know. I don't know.
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I agree. That's totally his creation.
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That's how he does it. He loves alliteration. He's my guy. All right. So he determines what America first is. Let's hear Marjorie Taylor Greene, who was there with her big doughy eyes, all happy to be on Meet the Press.
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President Trump says he gets to decide what America first means. Does America first mean whatever President Trump says it does?
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What a loaded question.
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This is like, this is disgusting.
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Yeah, well, but it also shows you Marjorie Taylor Greene, who I think is a nice lady, but she is. She's dumb. She doesn't even see beyond, you know, she doesn't see the implications of what this really can mean.
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She's not a dimensional thinker. Yes.
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You know, America first should mean what was promised on the campaign.
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You won't be able to hear it if you're, if you're doing it.
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I'm sorry, I only had to make that sound once.
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You could do it again if you want.
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So my understanding of America first is strictly for the American people, not for the big donors that donate to big politicians.
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Yeah, well. Yeah, well, first of all, the oil company, she sees that as big donors. And I guess they don't employ Americans. I guess, you know, it's not, not part of the American economy. She just doesn't see it that way. She wants grocery prices lower and rents lower, which. Yes, but you can't just wave your magic wand.
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Not for the special interests that constantly roam the halls.
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Well, the silver guy. Course, and the poly market guy, you know, they won big Washington.
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And not foreign countries that demand their priorities put first over Americans. America first actually means for the American people. And the American people have been put last, consistently decades and decades by both political parties for far too long. My kids generation, my kids are 22, 26 and 28. Are looking at a future where this whole entire generation doesn't think they'll ever see a Social Security check. They don't believe they'll ever be able to afford to own their own home. And 50 year mortgages are really a slap in the face. It's insulting. Americans don't want $2,000 stimulus checks as a payoff. They want to have good policies brought forth for them. Because you want to know something, Kristen? They voted for this administration and their small dollar donation should matter. And MAGA has its own enemy list. And the enemies of the worlds are not on their enemy list. And they're tired of being ignored.
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You're right. She's not a multi dimensional thinker. And I have three daughters, 29, 30, and 35. And yes, they see it as rather dim, but they're not afraid of their. They're not even thinking of Social Security checks. And now here's the difference. The 29 and 30 year old, they can actually afford rent now. They, they're not anywhere in house buying mood and that's unfortunate. But I think what we see and we'll see coming this year, the President's going to do something with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That rumor's been out there for a long time that may change things. Rents may actually go down which will also lower house prices as we've remove the incentives for illegal immigrants to be paid, bought and paid for by states and other. Yeah, that's, yeah, other criminal subsidies. But the one who's 35 in Rotterdam, she literally, you know, she cannot find a two bedroom apartment for the simple reason that the rule now is. And you know, she basically would be in social housing, you know, which is up to €2,000amonth. But in order to get that she can pay it. But you have to show that you earn five times the monthly rent. Well, no, she doesn't make a hundred thousand euros a year. And so that whole Europe is really not Europe first America is still doable. This by the way, is the biggest complaint I got from my little rant on the zoomers versus boomers. Well, yeah, but we can't buy a house. Well, no, you got jacked. Absolutely. My dad bought a house for $20,000 in 1990. Yeah. But his probably what was his monthly payment at 19% interest. So yeah, it's not great. But I think that the President does have some plans to change that.
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Chronology's off a bit.
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Okay. What do you mean?
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Well, the high interest was in the late, late. It really peaked and ended around 1980, not 1990. By 1990 the interest rates were way down.
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12%.
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I don't think so.
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I had a 12% mortgage in 1990.
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Well, you got gypped.
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There it is. With a balloon payment. With a balloon payment. Yeah, you know, so yes, that's a problem. But you know, it's Marjorie Taylor Greene makes it sound like, oh, it's the end of the world for everybody. You know, easy does it. It's not great. But you know, hardships, every generation has its hardships and I think the President has some plans for that anyway. Maybe could I just play a couple Rubio clips from this morning because it addresses these things and then we'll get back to your clips. Or do you want to play another series?
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I don't, I. Why don't you play the Rubio clips first and that gives me a better feeling of what clips I should go with.
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Okay.
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Man, I have way too many.
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Me too. I thought The Manhands Welker was better because she just, she, you know, she's a straight talker, man. She sits down, she asked the tough questions right away. Are we at war?
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Thank you so much for being here. I want to start with this big picture question. Is the United States now at war with Venezuela?
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There's not a war. I mean, what's we are at war against Drug trafficking organization is not a war against Venezuela. We are enforcing American laws with regards to oil sanctions. We have sanctioned entities. We go to court, we get a warrant, we seize those boats with oil, and that will continue. And we continue to reserve the right to take strikes against drug boats that are bringing drugs towards the United States that are being operated by transnational criminal organizations, including the Cartel de la Souls. Of course, their leader, the leader of that cartel is now in US custody and facing the US justice in, in the Southern district of New York, and that's Nicolas Maduro. So we made a big progress in that regard.
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By the way, thank you. Alberto Guru says can't afford a house, but drives an $80,000 four wheel truck, spends $500 a month on cell plants, Internet and streaming, doordash, partying, drugs, et cetera. Yeah, there's that.
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Yeah, there's that.
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There's that. So who's going to be running the country? Come on, Marco.
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Mr. Secretary, who is in charge? Are you running Venezuela right now?
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Yeah, I mean, I keep people, you know, fixating on that. Here's the bottom line on it is we expect to see changes in Venice.
B
By the way, this question is never answered by anybody. And it's because the President said we're running it. You know, Marco and Pete and everyone, they'll be taking care of things. That, that's why this question is a problem and goes unanswered in every interview we expect.
A
I don't understand why they, they let it go unanswered.
B
Well, here's his answer.
E
You know, fixating on that. Here's the bottom line on it is we expect to see changes in Venezuela. Changes of all kinds, long term, short term. We'd love to see all kinds of changes, but the most immediate changes are the ones that are in the national interest of the United States. That's why we're involved here, because of how it applies and has a direct impact on the United States. Okay. We are not going to be able to allow in our hemisphere a country that becomes a crossroads for the activities of all of our adversaries around the world. We just can't allow it. We can't have a country where the people in charge of its military and in charge of its police department are openly cooperating with drug trafficking organizations. We're not going to allow that. These things are direct threats to the United States. And we intend to use every element of leverage that we have to ensure that that changes. The one I would point everyone to is that our military is helping the Coast Guard conduct a law enforcement function which is not just the capture of Maduro, but the enforcement of our sanctions. We go to court, we get a warrant, we seize the boats. And we think this is tremendous leverage, incredible crippling leverage, which we intend to continue to use until we see the changes that we need to see that are benefit to the American people and by the way, we believe to the people of Venezuela as well.
B
Doesn't really answer it.
A
Not at all.
B
No. Here she now, of course, this was a good question. Good answer. So why aren't you working with Machado?
C
President Trump said the administration is working with Maduro's vice president, Delsey Rodriguez. Why does the administration oppose working with the opposition leader, Maria Corinna Machado? She's the Nobel Peace Prize winner, of.
B
Course, as well she should run the country.
C
Her coalition has the support of seven.
A
But she did win.
B
Yeah, no, she did win. But, you know, I just like when you say she's a Nobel Peace Prize winner. Well, I am a podcast hall of fame awardee. I should be running the country.
C
And Venezuelans, why not work with her?
E
Well, a couple things. First of all, Maria Karina Machado is fantastic and she's someone I've known for a very long time and the whole movement is. But here's the. We are dealing with the immediate reality. The immediate reality is that unfortunately and sadly, but unfortunately, the vast majority of the opposition is no longer present inside of Venezuela. We have short term things that have to be addressed right away. We all wish to see a bright future for Venezuela, a transition to democracy. All of these things are great and we all want to see that. I've worked on that for 15 years on a personal level, both in the Senate and now as national security adviser and Secretary of State. These are things I still care about. We still care about. But what we're talking about is what happens over the next two, three weeks, two, three months, and how that ties to the national interest of the United States. And so we expect to see more compliance and cooperation than we were previously receiving. With Nicolas Maduro, you could not make a deal or an arrangement, although he, by the way, was given very generous offers. He could have left Venezuela as recently as, you know, a week and a half ago. There were opportunities available for him to avoid all of this because he's not someone we can work with. He suckered the Biden administration into stupid deals. He's made a career out of not keeping deals and figuring out how to to save himself by buying time. And we were not President Trump was not going to fall into that trap.
B
This is, it's interesting that I guess no one really believed the national security strategy document because it was clearly spelled out.
A
Well, I have a clip about one of the analysis clips, talks just about that specifically.
B
Let's do that. Let's do your clips.
A
Yeah. This is the Maduro. This is CNN national nss. Oh wait, Maduro, CNN brings in n.
C
Again back to Jim Shuter, our chief national security analyst. What do you see in all of this at this stunning moment?
D
Well, Sarah, remember when this administration released its new national security strategy just a couple of weeks ago and folks were reading it and wondering is this a serious document? Does it indicate a major shift in U.S. foreign policy or is it largely political? Who had a hand at it? I was just reading through some of.
B
The language for the first time.
D
One of the clear headlines was in general terms, threats in our own hemisphere, the Western hemisphere.
B
Wow. They're just now figuring out that's what it said. Oh yeah. You know, I, I went back and I did some research.
D
Are more important, cnn, everybody than those elsewhere, whether that be Europe read that as Ukraine, the war in Ukraine or Asia perhaps read that as Taiwan. That threats here that involve not just regimes or governments that this administration views as their adversaries, such as Nicolas Maduro, but also problems that they view as top of top of their list, drug trafficking, migration flows, etc. And here we see that that document was quite serious, right, Sarah?
B
That that shift is a little laugh tale in there. We see that was quite serious, Sarah.
D
And here we see that that document was quite serious. Right, Sarah? That that shift is playing out before our eyes doesn't mean that the US Withdraws from Europe or Asia, but it is certainly more aggressive in its own backyard. And then you begin to think beyond this project underway, the Venezuela project, the US Running the country. And we're about to see, as you say, the leader of the country walk off that plane perhaps, perhaps in handcuffs and a blindfold or is what does it mean for the Cuban regime which is also an adversary of the Trump administration or even it's a little different because Greenland is run by an Ally. But Greenland is a place that President Trump has said, that's in our backyard. I want it.
B
Yeah. Hello. Get a clue. I don't play clips.
A
Well, I'm throwing Alberta, Canada into the mix.
B
I like that. I don't have any clips about it, but I like it.
A
Well, there's the thing about. It's like we're talking about our hemisphere, our backyard. What is more. And it. And if we really look at this as a subterfuge for grabbing oil, you got Alberta over there sitting there with this sitting. It's the same thing. They're not producing anything because the Canadian government won't let them. So let's go stir up some shit, get them to go independent. We got it made. We'd have the CIA go do that. Now, of course, the guy who wrote the nasty note to me and mentioned, well, you know, Mark Carney is Canadian. Okay, let's get this straight. Mark Carney was born in Canada.
B
Yes.
A
He was educated at Harvard and Oxford. So he's like.
B
He's the central banker's central banker. Basically.
A
He went to. He first he was a central banker in Canada, then he went to the. To the UK to became central banker. Then he became a UK citizen, but dual citizen. Then he became an. He's also got some Irish connection with some, some crazy Irish that are also kind of nexus types.
B
There's a lot of Irish running a lot of things.
A
And he's got. So he's a triple citizen. And then when he became the prime minister of Canada, he rebuked the other two citizenships that he already says he did. We don't know for sure. And so, okay, he's Canadian, but he doesn't like the United States or he's part of some banking combine, we don't know. But the point is this guy was telling and he's just a very nasty note.
B
Wow, you're really upset by this.
A
Welcome to upset at all. But it brought to the fore this thing, this, this Alberta thing, because it was like, we're full of crap about this Alberta thing. And I was reminding me, if you can remember this far back, this has to be 15 years ago when we first grabbed on to Farage.
B
Yeah.
A
Somebody wrote in this for. You guys are often the deep end here. Farage is no good. He's just a clown. He's never going to amount to anything. You'll never hear from him again. You guys are embarrassing yourselves.
B
Was it the same guy? No, it could have been.
A
It probably was the same guy. So this guy is saying so he says this about Alberta and I'm thinking, wait a minute because when you start listening to these clips about what the CIA is up to, they could easily be in Alberta causing, you know, getting.
B
Them handing out donuts.
A
Hey, handing out donuts.
B
You want a non stop supply of these every single day.
A
Albertans, you want more donuts, people.
B
But the thing is, from what the clips I've seen, the Albertans, they're like, yeah, we'd kind of like to be part of America. That's the way it seems to me.
A
I mean that could be the long term goal. I personally think they should be an independent country. They could probably pull that off.
B
Like Puerto Rico, kind of a protectorate.
A
Puerto Rico is part of the United States.
B
Yeah, but it's not a state. They could be a protectorate.
A
Oh, that's an interesting. I never even thought of that.
B
You get a passport, you get your donuts, get your flag, get your MAGA hat, good to go. Welcome aboard.
A
Interesting idea. That's actually, that might actually work. Clip 2 on the NSS how far.
D
Is the US willing to go now to change the leadership and control of other places and countries in our hemisphere so that, you know, the national strategy wasn't just an empty document apparently because of what we're seeing on that tarmac and New Bernie, New York right now.
B
Well, allow me now to play a clip from Rubio where this question came up about Cuba.
C
Is the Cuban government the Trump administration's next target, Mr. Secretary?
E
Well, the Cuban government is a, is a huge problem. Yeah. The human government is a huge problem for some Cuba. But I don't think.
B
Yeah, oh yeah, Kristen, they always want yes or no questions. Is that a yes? Are we going to take over Cuba?
E
Cuban government is a huge problem, first of all.
C
So is that a yes?
E
But I don't think people fully appreciate. I think they're in a lot of trouble. Yes. I'm not going to talk to you about what our future steps are going to be and our policies are going to be right now in this regard. But I don't think it's any mystery that we are not big fans of the Cuban regime who by the way are the ones that were propping up Maduro, his entire like internal security force, his internal security apparatus is entirely controlled by Cubans. One of the untold stories here is the how in essence you talk about colonization because I think you said, Dulcie Rodriguez mentioned that the ones who have sort of colonized at least inside the regime are Cubans. It was Cubans that guarded Maduro, he was not guarded by Venezuelan bodyguards. He had Cuban bodyguards in terms of their internal intelligence, who spies on who inside to make sure there are no traitors. Those are all Cubans.
B
That was interesting.
A
Yeah. The whole country is filled with a bunch of aliens, Cubans and Hezbollah and all these other groups.
B
But it's interesting that Cub was basically the intelligence apparatus for Maduro.
A
Well, they didn't do a very good job.
B
But who runs Cuba? I always thought that was Russia. Don't they, don't they still park their boats over there?
A
Russia's kind of backed away.
B
Well, you know, the, the story now that's out there is Trump did a deal, Putin gets Ukraine, and we take Venezuela, they got a deal. Sounds a little getting Ukraine minded, but yeah.
A
So let's go through this analysis. We'll do an analysis on. Because Machado was brought into the conversation. Why? Here's the Maduro CNN analysis on Machado, the Nobel Peace Prize winner who actually should have been president of Venezuela.
C
Do.
B
What are you learning?
D
I've been speaking to the Venezuelan opposition about their reaction to this.
B
Who is this? Who spoke with the opposition, who according.
A
To Rubio, one of the spooks that comes in and does analysis for cnn.
B
But Rubio said they're gone. They're all out of the country.
A
Yeah, most of them.
B
Well, okay, so that you talk to them.
A
No, they're in the country too. But if you're, you know. But they're not in plain sight.
B
Okay.
D
And I'm told that the opposition leader, Machado, has been in touch with governments across the world following this operation. That includes the government of France, President Emmanuel Macron. But alsoand this is crucial, governments in Latin America, Argentina, Ecuador, Panama, Paraguay, who I'm told have shared with the Venezuelan opposition their shared desire in, quote, restoring the will of the people. I think this is important, Sarah, because here is the opposition saying that they are getting support from other countries for the opposition's role in the future of Venezuela, post Maduro. And that's of course, crucial, Sarah, because as you and I were speaking earlier, President Trump in his comments from Florida earlier today seem to leave that question open. Right. He said the US Will be running the country. He raised some questions about the degree of support that Machado has in the country of Venezuela, which is crucial given that it is the wide view of observers of the most recent election that Machado actually won and not Maduro, that would give presumably, and certainly in the eyes of many countries in the region around the world legitimacy to her claims to leadership. In any sort of post Maduro government. But the opposition saying here that they are in touch with governments around the world and getting that kind of support. Right. As I said there, for restoring the will of the people in the country of Venezuela. But at this point remains very much an open question as to what the process will be to decide who leads the country next and where the US Will be in that process. Who will it support? Right. And does that include the opposition?
B
He's saying a lot of. Right. Because he doesn't know what he's talking about.
A
No, he's just rambling. But. But Trump had nothing, you know, he didn't say much about Machado being taking over. And then he said that she doesn't have much support. And I think what he's referring to is the fact that they dropped her in, in the government. They just shoot her because she doesn't have any support from the goons that are really still at the top of the pyramid.
B
You know what's interesting by omission in this whole story? Where's J.D. vance? He's nowhere.
A
He's not. He's doing dances. He's got. Gained a lot of weight. He's got long hair now. Have you seen that? He's fat. J.D. fat J.D. he's floating around. He's on the net.
B
I'm waiting for Besant. Scott Besant has to do. I mean, money has to come in somehow, and they must.
A
This looks like Rubio's op.
B
Well, he has to have a plan because, you know, there's still drug cartels, drug lines, money laundering. All of that's still in place. So they've got to be. They've got to have some kind of plan for this because I'm pretty sure you take 96 hours and if people aren't seeing some bread, they're going to go nuts.
A
Yeah, well, maybe that's what they want them to do. So there's all this discussion about Machado. And so I luckily caught. Sky News is the only group that actually put her on the air.
B
Oh, wow. Okay, let's listen to that.
A
And so I have a clip of her talking. So we. So she's not like, you know, just a character in the ether. This is Machado on Sky News explaining whatever she's explaining.
C
Some people talk about invasion in Venezuela, the threat of an invasion in Venezuela. And I answered, venezuela has been already invaded. We have the Russian agents, we have the Iranian agents. We have terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas operating freely in accordance with the regime. We have the Colombian guerrilla The drug cartels that have taken over 60% of our populations and not only involved in drug trafficking, but in human trafficking in networks of prostitution. So this has turned Venezuela into the criminal hub of the Americas. And what sustained the regime is a very powerful and funded, strongly funded repression system. Where does that funds come from? Well, from drug trafficking, from the black market of oil, from arms trafficking, for human trafficking. We need to cut those flows. And once it happens and repression is weakened, it's over because that's the only thing the regime has left, violence and terrorism. So we asked the international community to cut those sources because the other regimes that support Maduro and the criminal structure are very active and had turned Venezuela into the safe haven for their operations into the rest of Latin America.
B
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we've got CIA all over the place. We've got ofac, is that it? The ofac, the Office of Financial Affairs. They've got to be looking at everything, right? And I just want to say that there's such a simpleton idea out there. It's in the troll room too. It's about the oil, man. They just want to steal the oil. Well, first of all, that is in fact our oil refineries. We just talked about that. That was stolen. All these weak presidents did nothing about it. It. And yeah, that's American sovereignty. That's our stuff. We had a deal, you know.
A
Yeah, we had a deal.
B
We had a deal. So yes, it's about the oil and we will sell the oil to everybody who wants it. But that money flow going into these corrupt networks, I think the North Sea nexus has got to be somewhat worried at this point. Like, whoops, are they tracking us? Do they know where it's. I mean they probably got lazy throughout the years.
A
Oh absolutely. There's no question about. That's what happens with everybody. It's what you do.
B
But it's so.
A
You get lazy.
B
Oh, you know, it's so strange to see people with so simple minded, I mean even people I like from the, from the uk it's like, why pay for the oil when you can just steal it? Hashtag bullies, like, okay.
A
That'S a good one.
B
And a friend, a friend of ours knows a plastic surgeon who was on vacation on some Caribbean island, you know, UFI or ify, I don't know what it is. And he was like, oh great, now I can't fly home because of Trump's private war. It's like the ignorance of people, the non informed. Just not even you can even get some of this from Wikipedia. It's not that hard, but people just take spoon fed crap from TikTok and Instagram Reels and X put a bikini on it and like, oh, I'm good to go. I know what's happening. Trump, he's no good. Oil just wants the oil. It's disappointing is what it is. Our education system has failed us.
A
This has been your lament for 18 years.
B
Yeah, probably right. Then this was kind of funny. The protest groups, they sent them all out into the streets with freshly printed signs right away. All right, everybody, everybody, we got new signs. Help us hammer them onto the sticks. It's all from the. The signs are all the Party for socialism and liberation. I got one clip.
A
I have one too. After you're done.
B
I have Chicago. What do you have? Do you have Chicago?
A
I got Baltimore.
B
Oh, okay, here's Chicago.
C
Cold temperatures did not deter a strong show of support at Federal Plaza in the Loop on Saturday as demonstrators took a loud, invisible stand against U.S. intervention.
B
And by the way, every single person you're going to hear is white, has a nose ring, has a red beanie on, and is holding a socialism pre printed sign.
C
In Venezuela, the violence that we saw.
A
Last night was completely ruthless and we.
C
Cannot allow this kind of violence from our government. Several local Chicago groups issued an urgent call for an emergency protest following a controversial operation that led led to the detention of Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro and his wife, with Trump asserting that the US Government would step in to run the country. President Trump claims Venezuela's oil has funded drug trafficking and other crimes, using this as justification for intervention. It doesn't matter who does or doesn't support Maduro. It's completely outrageous and against international law. For the US to international law.
B
Where was your protests when they nationalized our oil companies? Where was your international law then, you twerp?
C
Try to unseat him.
B
You can say that the Venezuelan government hasn't been great, and I'd argue that's probably true, but I would also say that going into another useless war, abducting someone, seems morally, unquestionably wrong.
C
The protest spilled into the streets as demonstrators voice opposition to foreign military intervention, defended Venezuelan independence, and blasted what organizers described as an illegal and dangerous escalation.
B
Yeah, all right. I guarantee you, I guarantee you there's a smartmatic angle to this. This guy looked happy. He was like, oh, God, I'm safe. Take my wife too, please, please, please. Okay, we'll bring her too.
A
And the kid. They didn't have the kid. They took A son.
B
Oh, yeah. They captured a son as well. Yes, absolutely. It's. Trump is no dummy. He knows what he's doing. It's going to be fun to watch. All right.
A
Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland today. I'm sorry.
B
What?
A
I said I'm sorry.
B
Oh, it's okay. Apology accepted.
C
Demonstration.
B
You should say, my bad.
A
I'm never saying that.
C
Demonstrations in Maryland today as residents and lawmakers rallied against the US Military operation. Scott Macioni from member station WYPR has more.
B
After the Trump administration's surprise attack in Venezuela, protesters converged on Baltimore City Hall. Rachel Vacara, Baltimore's Party for Socialism and Liberation. Baltimore's Party for Socialism and Liberation. Baltimore's Party for Socialism and Liberation helped organize the protest.
C
There is no shortage of needs that the people in the US Face. We want these taxpayer dollars to meet people's needs ultimately and not destroy other countries on behalf of, in this case, oil executives.
B
Maryland U.S. representative Johnny Yoshevsky, who serves on the Foreign Affairs Committee, says he's deeply concerned by President Trump's comments that the United States will run Venezuela. Olshewski says he and other members of.
A
The committee are pushing for a briefing from the White House.
B
You know, and I reply, it was. This was actually on the podcasting 2.0 Mastodon. I don't, I shy away from politics, but someone sent me a dm and I said, hey, man, you go look at the history. They stole these companies from us. And, and what happens is the lefty's favorite word is, what about ism? Yeah, well, haven't we just done, done bad deals with people?
A
No.
B
Read your history.
A
He's kind of a new guy there. Who is that?
B
Come on, man. This is a new guy.
A
He's a new guy.
B
He's a friend. I blocked him. I've now gotten into blocking. I'm in the JCD school. It's just, it's like you answer someone, block, block, block. You. No time for this. I'm too old now. I'm old. I'm a boomer. I'm a boomer.
A
Boomer blocks and I'm done. I'm out of here.
B
Yeah, Boomer block.
A
Let's start with these last two. One is the analysis from npr, but I also want to get this one in. They're both from npr, so let's start with the, with the basic Maduro important analysis. Npr.
C
Okay, Franco, where in this puzzle does Machado, Maria Corino Machado, who just won.
B
The Nobel Peace Prize, leader in the Venezuelan opposition. Where does she fit? Wildly popular opposition leader. Interestingly, though, Trump did not throw his support behind her. Here's what he said about Machado.
A
I think it would be very tough for her to be the leader. She doesn't have the support. Trump said she is a very nice.
B
Woman, but that she just doesn't have.
A
The backing of the people.
B
Some strong, profound statements about the opposition leader.
C
Let me turn you to oil and.
B
How oil fits into this because President.
C
Trump had a lot to say about the oil reserve, how they're going to foot the bill for everything going forward in Venezuela.
B
How do you. I don't think he actually said that. Actually, I don't think he said that.
A
No, he didn't say that.
C
Read the significance of that.
B
I mean, it's very significant. I mean, we didn't hear much talk about re establishing democracy in Venezuela during this press or frankly we didn't hear that that much talk about drug trafficking either, which the initial premise for all of this, we were told going after drug votes. Go on. Exactly. Go on. The focus. Oh, she's doing a cara. She's doing a cara. Go on.
A
I heard that when, I heard that too. I heard that when she did it and I said, ah, Adam's gonna catch it.
B
Go on. Talk about reestablishing democracy in Venezuela during this presser. Frankly, we didn't hear that that much talk about drug trafficking either, which was the initial premise for all of this, we were told going after drug votes. Go on, go on. Exactly. The focus today was large. Venezuela, of course, has some of the largest oil reserves in the world. And let's be clear, U.S. involvement in the Venezuelan oil industry would be a huge, huge deal. Though re establishing it would be wildly expensive and a really long term project. And it's also kind of unclear as of now which companies would undertake this challenge. Now Trump claimed that it would not cost the U.S. any money because he expects U.S. oil companies will happily invest billions of dollars to rebuild Venezuelan's oil structure. But the reality is that oil, or at least he says the oil, would then be extracted and sold for a profit to benefit both Venezuelans and the U.S. now, he said that U.S. troops may be necessary to protect the oil, but he is not afraid of US Boots on the ground. And that is a tremendous statement for President Trump considering his aversion to military invention in the past. Boots on the ground. Boots on the ground. Boots on the ground.
A
This is a lot of conjecture. I mean, NPR is actually way behind on, I looked, listen, look at all my clips and NPR was behind cnn and so far as the quality. But. So this is my last np. The last clip is npr and it's there. This is the Maduro. This is the China reaction, which is the. Which was mocked by everybody because China, you know, was not a. Just what they did in Libya, what.
B
They do, they hoofed it.
A
You know, we got other things to do with our time. We're not getting involved. You can't take care of this. You were out of here.
B
Best price, we out.
C
China says it's warning its citizens not to travel to Venezuela and says it's closely monitoring the situation in that country where China was the biggest buyer of Venezuelan oil. NPR's Emily Fang has more. Although Venezuela contributed just a tiny fraction of the oil China imports for the South American nation, China was its primary customer, ferrying sanctioned oil from Venezuela to small refineries on China's east coast coast on what analysts term a shadow fleet of ships left unregistered or with their trackers off in order to evade sanctions. Over the last few weeks, Beijing has been outspoken against US strikes on boats in the Caribbean. And on Saturday, China's Foreign ministry said the US's seizure of Venezuelan President Maduro and his wife were, quote, hegemonic acts and strongly condemned the attack as a violation of international law.
B
No, okay. Russia also had a strong statement. They don't care.
A
They put out a strong press release.
B
Yeah. Can we still buy? That's the question. I got a clip from just about the drugs. I got a clip from France 24. They have a journalist who I guess is boots on the ground in Venezuela. And here's what she had to say.
C
I think that every Venezuelan was surprised, even the military, the military personnel, even the whole statement of the government. There is not one person in this country which could have been aware of what was going on. Even the response was kind of late for what was happening. Most of the electricity went down, even cell phone carriers went down. So it was a very confusing situation at the moment, even for the government and for Venezuelans. Of course, the drug smuggling and trafficking allegation has been broadly covered by private investigations, by international and independent media. But since I am a journalist and I haven't seen the proof in my hands that in fact Maduro was smuggling drugs, I will be very conservative to say that, to assert that this is a fact. I mean, even the Americans, Americans are asking, are demanding to Trump to present the proof because this operation was not a minor thing. This was a very expensive and a very dangerous operation, even for military, for US military personnel.
B
So there's no proof. There's no drugs. There's no. No drugs.
A
The indictment, you know, the one thing that is not being discussed, which is the indictment, which is allows, by using the second Article 2 of the Constitution, allows Trump to do all this, no matter what anyone likes to think about it being unconstitutional, is the indictment very clearly points out all. They have been capturing audio tapes, tapping his phone. It's been going on for years. Everyone who's looked at the indictment against Maduro says it's ironclad.
B
And I put a copy of said indictment into the show notes, everybody can read it for themselves.
A
So this woman is a stooge, whoever she is.
B
Well, friends 24, that's the nexus is out there, like, oh, we don't even know if they're drugs. But we can go back to 1989. I love it when these clips pop up. When Joe Biden himself spoke on behalf of the Democrat Party about the necessity, the necessity to go in and stop the scourge of drug networks.
A
Every president for the past two decades.
B
Democrat and Republican alike, has declared war on drugs. And each of them has lost that.
E
War and lost it miserably.
B
They lost because they attempted to deal with only part of the drug problem. They lost because their initiatives were pulled.
E
Apart by bureaucratic squabbling among their advisors.
B
They lost because they always did too little and they did it too late. We don't oppose the President's plan.
A
All we want to do is strengthen it.
B
That's President Bush at the time.
A
We don't doubt his resolve.
B
All we want to do is stiffen it. The trouble is that the President's proposals.
E
Are are not big enough to deal with the problem.
B
We think we should do more to stem the flow of drugs across our borders. And we think we should go one step further. Let's go after the drug lords where they live with an international strike force. There must be no safe haven for these narco terrorists and they must know it. We have to lock up the dealers for a long, long time and we have to attack source from which the drugs come. And we have to do that not a piece at a time, but all at once. And we have to do it now. And there's not any reason why we can't do that. We have the power, we have the money, and we have the knowledge. My, how things change. Where was the outrage?
A
I love using the Joe Biden's old clips because back in the day when he was erudite, he could actually speak. He never stuttered, by the way. Where did that ever come from? No, he's a stutterer. He's a stutterer. His whole life he never stuttered. He was straightforward and very clear. And so you don't want a president like that. Let's wait till he's into total dementia and can barely talk or move or figure out where he is. Then let's make him president. That's what we do think it is that.
B
Go back to Face the Nation. This is CBS with Margaret Brennan. And this is Senator Chris Van Hollen with a little extra detail on the details.
A
Yeah, Van Holland's the guy, as you recall, is the guy who went down and met with the Maryland dad of Braggy Garcia and had margaritas at a cafe.
C
So Chevron, an American oil company, has been operating in Venezuela throughout, and they told CBS yesterday that they continue to work there. My understanding is there are hundreds of Americans working and living in Venezuela still.
B
This is true. Chevron is the only company that continued to hobble along.
C
Reportedly there are at least four who had been been detained by the regime, the regime that remains in power. Here you are on Senate Foreign Relations. What do you know about the detained Americans? What can you find out about how they're doing?
A
I've not gotten an update from the administration on those detained Americans. Months ago, I did work to secure the release of an American, a Marylander who we now have back in Baltimore, Maryland. I think the administration is looking at those detentions currently ongoing in Venezuela and determining how many of them are wrongful detentions, how many that they don't think are wrongful detentions. But certainly my view is we should work to bring back every American who is wrongfully detained overseas. I think this is going to complicate that effort, what the Trump administration just did.
B
Oh, oh, it's going to complicate it. Okay.
A
How's it going to complicate it?
B
So now let's go to Rubio with Stephanopoulos. Just a couple clips here. Here it's all about the oil. We're joined now by the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio. Mr. Secretary, thank you for joining us this morning. President Trump was pretty clear yesterday. He said the United States is going to run Venezuela under what legal authority?
E
Under. Well, first of all, what's going to happen here is that we have a quarantine on their oil. That means their economy will not be able to move forward until the conditions that are in the national interest of the United States and the interest of the Venezuelan people are met. And that's what we intend to do. So that leverage remains, that leverage is ongoing and we expect that it's going to lead to results here. We're hope, so hopeful that it does positive results for the people of Venezuela. But ultimately, most importantly for us, in the national interest of the United States, we will no longer have, hopefully as we move forward here, we'll set the conditions so that we no longer have in our hemisphere. Venezuela, that's the crossroads for many of our adversaries around the world, including Iran and heaven. Hezbollah is no longer sending us drug gangs, is no longer sending us drug boats, is no longer a narco trafficking paradise for all those drugs coming out of Colombia to go in through the Caribbean and towards the United States. And obviously we want a better future for the people of Venezuela. We want them to have an oil industry where the wealth goes to the people, not to a handful of corrupt individuals and stolen by, you know, pirates all over the world. That's what we're working towards and we intend to use the leverage we have to help achieve that.
B
George, ask him again. Ask him who's running the place, man. Let me ask the question again. What is the legal authority for the United States to be running Venezuela?
E
Well, I explained to you what our goals are and how we're going to use the leverage to make it happen. As far as what our legal authority is on the quarantine, I'm very simple. We have court orders. These are sanctioned boats and we get orders from courts to go after and sanction, seize these sanctions. So there's, that's, I don't know. Is the court not a legal authority?
B
So is the United States running Venezuela right now?
E
Well, I've explained once again, I'll do it one more time. What we are running is the direction that this is going to move moving forward. And that is we have leverage. This leverage we are using and we intend to use, we started using already. You can see where they are running out of storage capacity. In a few weeks they're going to have to start pumping oil unless they make changes. And that leverage that we have with the armada of boats that are currently positioned allow us to seize any sanctioned boats coming into or out of Venezuela loaded with oil or on its way in to pick up oil. And we can pick and choose which ones we go after. We have court orders for each one that will continue to be in place until the people who have control over the levers of power in that country make changes that are not just in the interest of the people of Venezuela. Venezuela, but are in the interest of the United States and the things that we care about.
B
George. George, Where? George? George. Sorry, George, I hit the wrong button. You've got him on the ledge, man. Ask him again. Let me ask the question again. What is the legal authority for the United States to be running Venezuela? Well done.
E
Well, I explained to you what our goals are and how we're going to use the leverage to make it happen. As far as what our legal authority is on the quarantine, I'm very simple. We have court orders. These are sanctioned boats, and we get orders from courts to go after and seize these sanctions. So there's.
B
That's.
E
I don't know. Is a court, not a legal authority?
B
So is the United States running Venezuela right now? Can't stand it.
E
Well, I've explained once again. I'll do it one more time. What we are running is the direction that this is going to move, moving forward. And that is we have leverage. This leverage we are using, and we intend to use, we started using already. You can see where they are running out of storage capacity. In a few weeks, they're going to have to start pumping oil unless they make changes. The leverage that we have with the armada of boats that are currently positioned allow us to seize any sanctioned boats coming into or out of Venezuela loaded with oil or on its way in to pick up oil, and we can pick and choose which ones we go after. We have court orders for each one that will continue to be in place until the people who have control over the levers of power in that country make changes that are not just in the interest of the people of Venezuela, but are in the interest of the United States and the things that we care about.
B
This is. This is going to be the number one thing for the next two weeks. Who's running it? Who's running it? Who's running it? Who? I see it right now on the quad box. I see. Oh, there's General Wesley Clark. He says US is running it, running the policy. Who's running it? What are we running? Who's running? Who's got the ball? Who's on first?
A
Who's running? Well, I think it's interesting that Rubio could say the same exact thing, almost word for word, three times in a row.
B
Yeah. Thinking that Stephanopoulos will come up with.
A
A better question and Stephanopoulos could not push it. Well, you know, it's not just coming up with the better questions. It's the way he. I don't know. It was very poorly done. Stepanopoulos is not that forceful an interviewer. I Mean, he can ask the same question over and over and over, but he's just lax about, you know, you have to do it. You have to twist it a little bit differently. You gotta find some angle, because he's gonna get that same rote answer. Very rote, by the way.
B
In fact, he walked off the set. They went, you sure asked him, didn't you?
A
You know, the funny thing is, it's interesting how Rubio is more the politician by a long shot than Trump is. Trump, in that situation, would have said, that's a nasty question. You're a nasty, nasty reporter.
B
You're a horrible. You're a horrible journalist.
A
You're a horrible. How did you even get this job? All right, what he would have done.
B
Last question.
A
Chevron is the only American company working.
B
In Venezuela right now. Only American oil company working in Venezuela right now. Have you gotten commitments from any other US Oil company to go in? Well, good question, George.
E
I haven't spoken to US Oil companies in the last few days, but we're pretty certain that there will be dramatic interest from Western companies. Non Russian, non Chinese companies will be very interested. Our refineries in the Gulf coast of the United States are the best in terms of refining this heavy crude. And there's actually been a shortage of heavy crude around the world. So I think there will be tremendous demand and interest from private industry if given the space to do it, if given the opportunity to do it. And that will spin off tremendous royalties for the people of Venezuela to benefit the people of that country. Not the handful of people at the top, but the people. And, you know, that can happen. There will be interest. I haven't spoken to the companies since all this has happened. I'm certainly aware of who they are, and I have spoken to Secretary Wright and Secretary Burgum and others. I know they'll soon be sort of taking an assessment and speaking to some of these companies, but I don't have any concerns that there won't be interest. There'll be tremendous interest if it can be done the right way.
B
These stupid Democrats. Now, I see on Miz now, Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
A
Yes.
B
We have an emergency call with the leaders of the Democrat Party, whereas. Emergency call. They're doing an emergency pod right now as we speak. I got some calls yesterday. Hey, yeah, no agenda. Needs to do an emergency pod, man.
A
No, That'll be the day.
B
Wow, an emergency pod. Yeah. And then the final clip is, the president was asked about Colombia, and that was kind of a similar answer to Cuba. Colombian President Gustavo Petro you know, a couple weeks ago you said he's got to watch his ass, and today he said he's not concerned about anything happening to him in the aftermath of this operation.
A
So just what your message is. Cocaine mills. He has factories where he makes cocaine. And yeah, I think I stick by my first statement. He's making cocaine, they're sending it into the United States. So he does have to watch his ass, tough guy.
B
He's got to watch his ass, man. But it's, it's fascinating to see the media just, you know, this is going to be their next thing. Oh, unconstitutional. Oh, we didn't, we didn't notify Congress. All, all of this stuff and everything else falls by the wayside. The Jews are no longer talked about, Israel is no longer talked about. Epstein no longer talked about. It's just completely, just like a tidal wave over everything. And again, I think the next, I think by Thursday we'll have to have a pretty good idea of what their plan is in order to, to, to quell any, any issues in the region.
A
I don't think so.
B
You don't think so?
A
I don't think so. I don't think they're going to get to the, to clarify. I don't think it's going to be clarified by Thursday. I just don't, I just see it as being a slow moving process and I base that on Rubio, mostly because of his, you know, repetitious answers. He's not giving us any insight whatsoever. The misdirection of Cuba is bullcrap. We're not doing anything with Cuba, let's face it.
B
Why not?
A
Because what's our rationale? The rationale with Maduro is that he was under indictment and they're shipping drugs out of there left and right on these boats. And we could do we take action. What is Cuba doing?
B
So it's just a misdirection.
A
It has to be. I mean, and you got Rubio, who is Cuban, so it makes it sound like he's a tough guy. I think the next target would be, is either going to be Mexico. Mexico's the real target. You want to misdirect from that because they have issues. They have more issues than Cuba. They're right on our border. Yeah, they're not doing jack with Cuba.
B
And Alberta.
A
Well, Alberta is one of Alberta. And Alberta is going to be, it's going to be a ramp up to October when they have the vote. And it'd be whether the Canadians, you know, the Canadians can be talked out of this. Because they're wishy washy, generally speaking. No offense to our Canadian listeners, but, you know, you're kind of wishy washy and you complain a lot.
B
You know, I got a note about Canada, one second.
A
But, but the Canadians are, you know, they, they're, they're. Well, they tend to be up on current events, and it's possible that they could vote to be an independent country in Alberta. It would be, it would be a shocker. And the Canadians kind of like to be, be or slight troublemakers. This would be like a perfect example of doing it right.
B
Canadian. Tim, I think he's Canadian, checked in. He said on the last episode, John had an aside where you're talking about OpenAI hiring in a role that admits liability. Just like how you should never apologize when you're in a car accident, which it was a valid point. And he says, well, this will sound like a joke, but it's not in Canada because everyone is so apologetic. We actually have laws on the books that state explicitly that an apology is not an admission of liability. And he links to the statute S09003, effect of apology on liability. An apology made by or on behalf of a person in connection with any matter does not in law constitute an express or implied admission of fault or liability by the person in connection with the matter and does not, despite any wording to the contrary, in any contract of insur or indemnity, and despite any other act or law, void, impair or otherwise affect any insurance or indemnity coverage for any person in connection with the matter and shall not be taken into account in any determination of fault or liability in connection with that matter. Well, how about those Canadians?
A
That's very Canadian.
B
Yes, I thought so too. Like. Well, that's interesting.
A
Yeah, it wouldn't be a bad law to have here because people do like to apologize for getting into rap, but if you do it, you're asking for trouble in the United States. It's an admission of guilt. Why'd you apologize, sir? You knew you did wrong. That's why you apologize. Right. You just don't apologize for everything. You don't apologize for somebody punching you in the mouth. When they punch you in the mouth, do you say, I'm sorry?
B
Yeah, well, the Canadians, they're on it. I got a distressing note from Strokey, Bill Walsh's longtime friend, Steve. He said, well, he sent me a note out of the blue. He said, I'm pretty sure it was your show that Bill was always raving about. If I'm not Mistaken. You got. Do you remember Strokey Bill?
A
You do not remember Strokey Bill.
B
Well, you do. He did several best of shows and he would always be send long emails about how we were stupid and XRP is great and all this stuff.
A
Oh, he's the XRP guy.
B
Yeah, he was. He passed away December 19th. Yeah. And he said your show really had an impact on Bill and he loved listening to you and this for me and because I had a very kind of, I'll say hate love relationship with Strokey Bill because I thought he was a douche most of the time. But it reminded me that the people who are the douchiest are actually the ones that love us the most. Yes. And I'm taking that into account.
A
Yeah, I think there's some truth to that.
B
Yeah. So we're sorry. And I, I prayed for him and I hope he's in Jesus arms and he's in a better place, so. And no, he had a wife and I don't know if he had kids, but I feel. Feel sad that we. That we lost Strokey Bill.
A
So I have a clip that I moved from last show. This is a new year celebration. This is a kind of a roundup of different parts of the world and what they were up to and this and this, that. And there was a little tidbit in this thing and I thought it would be worth playing because I wanted. I would like an explanation for it when it's finished.
B
Light shows, fireworks and cultural traditions. From the South Pacific to the East Asia, celebrations are lighting up the night. NTD's Christina Corona brings us some highlights.
C
The new year began in the South Pacific. The first to say goodbye to 2025 sitting Sydney, Australia kicked off 2026 with fireworks sparkling over the city's landmarks. An hour before midnight, the celebration paused for a moment of silence honoring the victims of the recent Bondi beach attack In Taiwan, thousands gathered at Taipei 101 for a six minute fireworks display synchronized with music and a light show. Over in Hong Kong, fireworks over Victoria harbor were replaced with a light show in the center. Central district officials replaced fireworks after a deadly November fire, turning eight buildings into countdown clocks for a three minute show themed New Hopes, New Beginnings. In South Korea, more than 10,000 people gathered at Seoul's Bosingok Pavilion for the annual bell tolling ceremony with civic representatives striking the bronze bell 33 times.
B
What? What's that about?
A
Yeah. And that's in Korea.
C
Hmm.
B
Yeah. Well, I'd like to know what that's about.
A
I would like a Korean to Explain to me what the significance of 33 in Korea is.
B
And please don't send us emails telling us your discovered theory about 33. We've heard them all. They're all different. We have. They're all different.
A
Yeah. They're all.
B
Yeah. Every single one of them is different. Yeah. Wow, that is interesting. I have no idea what that's about. Of course, end of the year, so lots of lists are coming out. This one popped up on the radar. Words and phrases we should no longer use. Yeah, you'll like some of these.
C
Every year, Lake Superior State University in Michigan puts together a tongue in cheek roundup of overused slang. This one really hits the nail on the head. The viral six seven tops the list.
D
The term demure came in second, followed by Cooked, Massive, incentivize, Full Stop, Perfect, and Gift or Gifted.
C
Rounding out the top 10 are my bad and Reach out, which also made the list in the 90s. I'm going to tell you what, if you say my bad instead of I apologize or I'm sorry, it doesn't count.
B
Yeah, agreed. You've always had a problem with My bad. Bad.
A
Yeah, it's grammatically stupid.
B
Yeah, I like Full stop, which is also Tucker's period. I don't think that can be done anytime, period, period. We just can't do that.
A
Yeah, I've always been annoyed by Full Stop.
B
Yeah.
A
Why would you throw. You're talking to. Somebody said Full stop. What?
B
Full stop? Yes, Full Stop Stop. I. I pointed this out on the last episode. France is now doing something about it. It's horrible.
A
When she posted her holiday outfit on X, this young woman did not think that she would end up naked on the Internet. For the past few days, you just have been asking Grok I sent you.
B
Did you get any of that in your timeline?
A
Yeah, send me a couple of these. I. You know, the funny thing is, the number of jade fat jd things I've been getting is up to like 10 a day and I still have yet to get into the groove to get any of the bikini things except the ones you sent me.
B
Oh, well, that's interesting because of course. Do you click on. You got to click on them to see all the.
A
No, I click on it, but I didn't click. You have to click a lot. But once you get on the groove and the fat JD stuff where he's dancing and he's playing the guitar, he's doing solos, he's sending people on tampon rockets.
B
Hey, we can do a commercial combo. Can't we? Say put Fat JD in a bikini. Grok.
A
Wow, that's a good idea.
B
Yeah, I think that's.
A
Maybe that's.
B
That's the combo that should be.
C
Next X's generative AI chatbot to undress.
A
Women and sometimes even minors without their consent. For Marion, this was a violation of privacy.
C
It's really upsetting to see this. You wonder, why would anyone do that? When do you decide to do that to people? You don't even.
B
No.
C
On social media. I think there have been about 30 cases.
B
By the way, she posts a very seductive picture of herself on social media. By itself, a dumb idea. Why are you doing that? Why? What is the point? I'm sounding like you now. What is the point? Why are you putting these pictures on social media? Look at me. Look at me. Look at me. Look at me.
A
I'm looking at me. Looking over my shoulder. Here's a picture of me.
B
Look at my. I look. Do I look hot? I mean, yeah.
A
Here's a picture of me with my new hair. Here's a picture of me with some lipstick on. Here's a picture of me standing there.
B
Yes.
A
Here's a picture of me and my dog. Here's a picture of me and my cat. Here's a picture of me, Me, me, me, me.
B
Look at me and my boyfriend. Don't we look beautiful?
E
Wow.
B
Not your life. Wow. Look at this. Look at the fireworks in the background. Oh, we're eating caviar. Oh, we're so awesome. It's fabulous. Our life is great. This is what you get.
C
It hurts to see yourself like that. It's not my body, but it looks similar. And then people can reuse the image anywhere.
A
You don't know that she reported it to the platform, but some images of her naked are still online. Instances of free and accessible AI that are stripping women and men of their clothing are on the rise.
C
Here, a user asks the chatbot to.
A
Put this young woman in a bikini. Victims have been advised to report illegal.
C
Content on the platform as well as to authorities.
B
This is interesting because Elon Musk is now posting thing. Anyone who puts up illegal content will be banned and the authorities will be contacted. And everyone's like, well, what is illegal content? What exactly is illegal content? Could you please codify that for us? Which he, as far as I know, has not done.
A
For their part, he can't.
B
Of course not.
C
Ministers and members of Parliament have also reacted, outraged by requests made to Grok AI to strip girls and women. While the image is artificial, the harm is very real.
B
The courts must Examine X's criminal liability. This is something new because there is no jurisprudence in France on this issue yet. So it's excellent that the courts are.
E
Taking up the case.
A
Another victim has launched an online petition.
C
Calling for greater regulation of generative AI.
A
The US Federal Communications Commission did not.
C
Immediately respond for comment, while the Federal Trade Commission declined to comment. For its part, an ex AI representative responded.
A
Legacy media lies.
B
Okay? Legacy media lies, man. This is modern media.
A
She should say we never lie.
B
She should say, this thing sucks. I'm much hotter than that in a bikini. But no, no, it's. It is so rampant. I'm surprised it hasn't really shown up your timeline.
A
No, it does not show up in my feeds at all yet.
B
That's.
A
But I'm getting a lot more. Besides the JD Vance doing all kinds of moves, I'm getting a lot of pretty obscure AI movies, you know, that show all kinds of kinds of. Just poorly done. Some of them, you know, of Trump shooting up the place or who knows.
B
Well worth the $1.3 trillion investment. I see more and more now that local municipalities and city councils are blocking data centers left and right. It's become quite a thing that even Microsoft is now kind of saying, well, you know, yeah, the rollout's a little harder. We have about 20 cases is people don't want it. They don't want these data centers near them anymore.
A
No. In fact, the one that they're building, the fusion reactor, they're building in Washington state, Microsoft, which is not going to work, which is going to actually be a negative number when they're done getting it, when they, if they, if they even start. It has got to be a fiasco.
B
Go. I got a note from Jay, Confusion on fusion. Then I will read it and then you can respond. Since I don't know anything about this other than the videos that I've seen that show it's all going to work.
A
Oh yeah, videos are great.
B
I've been working on promoting fusion energy for years now and have tried to help your confusion in the past. Yes, tritium and deuterium fused. The deuterium is easy. The tritium requires refinement or processing like pulling it out of the heavy water at Hanford, for example, or processing lithium to get tritium. The main thing you are missing is the two different types of fusion reactors. The Tokamak design is most popular in Europe and the US it uses magnets in a theoretical containment system is much smaller in scale. Think one Tokamak reactor for one data center. The fusion reactor Technology proven out by Lawrence Livermore Labs and now merged with Trump's TAE through TAE uses giant laser systems. The containment system for an industrial size scale reactor is the last leap required. Think of these fusion reactors for an entire region of the country. I have met with the head of Princeton Fusion Labs, Professor Cowley to prove out the Berner B oerner fusion future plan for the next. That's the guy who ran for president. The inside word is I have not been able to verify is that the MIT plasma scientist was working on a containment solution. I was pissed when I heard about the Trump merger because it privatizes the effort. Instead of using the US Department of Energy so that the American citizens own it, this technology can take the US from a superpower to a hyper nation and eat the horrendous inflation we've had. The burner plan was a maze. Amazing. You were contacted early in the effort which was several years ago. Well the good before you react, the good news is my buddy works now at the Department of Energy in Colorado and I'm going to ask him and he will give me as much as he can. Now your take on these different systems?
A
I don't have a take on the different systems. They're different systems. They all claim to work and I've seen no evidence of it. Well that's all I can say is that this is like a great idea. I mean I would be terrific if they get fusion to work. In other words take less energy to make it start up as opposed to how many Right now the problem is it takes more energy to. It's like it takes twice as well, not twice as much but it just takes even a fraction more energy to produce less energy. So you spend a bunch of energy to get less energy.
B
But you keep saying, you keep saying you can do that but you keep saying the star startup. So once it started, once it's running.
A
No, no, it's continuous.
B
Well that makes no sense.
A
So you have to use let's say 1.1x to get 1.0 out and yeah, you can take that 1.0 out and recycle it and put it back into the, to the making making the containments field work or whatever energy you need but it's, you're still, now you're, you're down 0.1. No, it, there's no evidence unless somebody shows me some documents. I've never seen one, one that shows that it takes less energy. If you can put in just like a half amount of energy then you get twice as much.
B
Out.
A
You know, fine.
B
This is, you know, for me, this is the flying car thing. People keep sending me videos. Look, it's a flying car. It's here. And I'm like, no, it's not. No, it's not. You go to the website, it will fly for 35 minutes at 4 at 25 miles per hour. What good is that? And you won't be able to fly it without a pilot's license. Well, in America, would you have a light sport? But you're not gonna be able to fly it from Fredericksburg to Austin. A, you won't make it. B, you've got to recharge forever. And you can go by yourself, no baggage. Tina. What's Tina gonna drive with? A backup car with a battery in the back? No, all of these things are toys. The only one that's kind of there is that French guy. What's the French guy?
A
What French guy?
B
Let me find the French guy.
A
Well, anyway, just a back to fusion so I can finish it off. That's my concern. And yeah, there's different technologies that the Tokamak, you know, is the big deal. And so. And there's this other thing, this Helium 3 device that Microsoft's going to build. They're not. Unless I've not seen any evidence these things could work at all. They would be built by now.
B
Well, we'll have to see four more years. We'll figure it out. It's the Air Scooter by Zapata. The French guy. Zapata.
A
Oh, that Air scooter, yeah. Oh, the demos are dynamite.
B
Well, what's different about that is he has a little engine on board which powers the supplies continuous electricity with. So basically a hybrid to the little rotors. But that thing is like an egg. One person, and he flew it across the English Channel a couple months ago, crashed into the Channel. We're not quite sure what happened, but that thing is cool. But, you know, not for $300,000. None of the. None of the. Everyone's drone crazy like, oh, but I could fly the drone and then. And I could sit in the drone. No, no, none of it's going to work. Just look at the specs of these things. Yeah, well, you can fly for literally 25 minutes, some go 40 miles an hour. What is that? We gonna tootle around town? Look at me, I'm landing.
A
I'm reminded of these. These things are faddish. And I'd put fusion into the same category as fattish, although it's a long term fad. But the fattishness do you remember the fattishness where everyone had the ultralight?
B
Yeah.
A
And they'd get these little. Didn't weigh anything and they had a little motor in the back. And I don't even know if he had a lot need a license.
B
They're actually better than any of this stuff.
A
Yeah, well they are but they were all still crashed and we used to have a bunch of them in the Bay area. I've never seen, I haven't seen one for 10 years. When, when they was very fattish I used to see two or three.
B
We have a guy at church. Oh, what's his name? A kit K I T T And he still has metal plates throughout his body because he crashed them in Fredericksburg a couple years ago.
A
Yeah, yeah. And then the, the fad before that were these auto gyros.
B
Those are cool. I would love an autogyro and those.
A
Were very popular in the 70s.
B
I think they are one of the safest ways to fly. But it's not an, it's not an evtol. You still need a Runway. So a couple of companies have tried to make rotable gyrocopters. I have flown a gyrocopter. I'm very interested in it. No one has quite gotten there except for the, the V pal which is the Dutch guys and they've. And but it's. It's like this big thing, it folds everything in.
A
It's this huge thing.
B
You know maybe it fits in your garage. You drive, you're driving with. It's a three wheeler. Oh, I'm gonna drive to the airport like an idiot. And it's two people with you know, a little overnight bag. Were one seaters and they don't go very fast. They go about 90 miles an hour.
A
Yeah but it looked when you see one flying around. I haven't seen one for a year.
B
Broomstick. You're talking about the broomstick?
A
Yeah. They look like a. Going like a bat out of hell to me.
B
No, they, they top 90.
A
90 but well they're usually only about 10ft off the ground. These guys will fly them.
B
Well now they have, there's a few, a few new ones out that have seven hour endurance and three people closed cockpit side by side in the back. Air conditioning.
A
An autogyro.
B
Yeah. Really? I mean but you know, $400,000. Well you might as well buy a second hand airplane at that point because what is the real benefit other than safety? Because they are very safe. Engine quits, you just float down to the ground, you know.
A
So yeah, that was.
B
If a rotor breaks, then you, you float faster to the ground with all these drone things too. What? Well, it can fly with one rotor out. What if two are out? Well, you're dead. No, sorry. That's no good. Well, then we have the parachute. We had the ballistic parachute, which is an extra $20,000. I, I look into all of these things and none of them. There's the ones that get the most traction is the. That which, you know, they, they say, oh, we're the first ones to get certified flying car. I think it's Mueller, Muller, Mueller.
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That Moeller, that guy. He. The first time. This guy has been doing this on a cycle of about a 6, 7 year cycle since I was a kid.
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Oh, wow. Really?
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The first time I reported this, when I was actually editor of InfoWorld, he came. It was one of the cycles, and in 1980, he brought it out again. Paul Moeller, he brought. Yeah, the same guy. Molar. He's in Sacramento. He used to be in Sacramento. He's around here somewhere. And he'd bring out the flying car. The molar car.
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Yeah.
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And he'd bring it out and he brought out, oh, look at this. There's the flying car. We're finally there. And I remember when, when I was in like the fifth grade or something, the same thing came out. It's. It's the same recycled car over and over and over again. He gets a lot of publicity. He's a good, Knows how to get publicity. Yeah.
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He's had all kinds of securities exchange issues for investor frauds, unregistered stock sales. 40 years, $100 million spent, according to Wikipedia. Yeah. And if you. And go. Go look at all these great things that you see. And China's. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, it's working here in China. Okay. It's just not there. It's not. I, I'd love it, believe me. I'm the. If there's a real flying car, I'll sell my regular car to buy one. But I don't see it. So it goes right, it goes right up there. It's in the, it's in the, the fusion category as far as I'm concerned.
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Yeah. Well, when we see. We'll. Yeah. The fusion things going to, going to collapse. I would like to say blow up, but I don't want to use that.
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It would be great. I mean, obviously it would be, It'd be fantastic if it works. Yes, we would be a hypernation, of course.
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Yeah, it would be fantastic. But that's the thing. It's just one of these pitches. It's all pitch, you know, and no product.
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Well, I'll talk to my guy at doe.
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Yeah, he'll tell you the same thing.
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I hope so. I hope so. All right, what else you got, Johnny boy?
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I have a little presentation here from San Francisco.
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Okay.
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This is the big. We talked about it before. They're suing the big food. They're suing big food. And this. Is this the thing that got me into trouble with you because I had said one thing one day 10 years ago.
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No, it was two years ago.
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And then five years later, I said the opposite. Then I said I flipped. They could flip back and forth and back and forth and forth. And so I'm playing these clips and I'm thinking to myself as I play these. This is the latest. This came out yesterday. As I'm playing these clips, I'm thinking, wait a minute, what is my position? I don't even know anymore.
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It's okay. I'm not holding you to any position. We can flip flop all we want. It's a podcast.
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I'm beginning to think it's bullcrap, but here we go.
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San Francisco is the kind of heavily democratic city that the Trump administration often talks about targets. But there's one issue they agree on. They're both taking aim at ultra processed food. In the first lawsuit of its kind, San Francisco is suing 11 of the nation's top food companies, saying they sell ultra processed food knowing that they are harmful to health. By some estimates, more than 60% of the food consumed in the United States is ultra processed. A growing body of scientific research says diets high in ultra processed food lead to chronic diseases like obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and depression. Earlier, John Yang spoke with Ashley Gearhart, a University of Michigan psychology professor who studies addiction.
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Ashley, we just heard the San Francisco city attorney say that ultra processed foods are designed to be addictive. Do you agree?
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Yes. In my lab that we see that these products can really trigger all the core signs of addiction. That loss of control, those intense cravings, that continued use, even though, you know it may. May be killing or harming you.
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So I'll just. And this is not for any other reasons other than it was Cali means when RFK Jr. Was running and he was on Tucker. And the story was that tobacco companies, RGR bought the food companies and then they told their scientists, do exactly what you did to make tobacco addictive and do it for food. That was the claim at the time.
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Time, yeah. And I thought it was bull Crap. Because it's like, what do you. What did you put nicotine in the food? I mean, there are. There's literally. There are literally addictive substances in cigarettes. Nicotine? That's addictive? They don't put nicotine in Oreos.
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No, but I think it was sugar and other substances.
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Oh, no. Because before. Before the tobacco companies even got involved, there were tons of sugary. I mean, I remember when I was a kid, they had all these crackers and wafers and vanilla wafers and these sugary. And they had sugary cereals before tobacco got involved.
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Twinkies and Ho Ho and Ho Hos.
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And Hostess cookie cupcakes, which were delicious. Little Debbie next.
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How do they do that? What are in the foods that make people addicted? Do it.
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Yeah. There's a certain addiction playbook that's been used from tobacco to opiates to sports betting. You take something that exists, typically exists in nature, like a plant or, you know, a fruit, and you alter it so it gives just this just right dose of reward. It stimulates you, but doesn't fully satisfy you, so you want to keep coming back for more. Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. You can titrate the smell, the flavor, the taste, and then you flood the environment with it. So your consumers, even if they have a slight moment of temptation, the product is right at arm's reach. And the next thing they know, they're using again. This is what's happened to our food when big tobacco really took over in the 70s and 80s, and those same levers have been used to create ultra processed foods that are now killing 1400Americans every day.
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Wow. I would say the marketing and the packaging and the color, you walk through the food, through the quote unquote food aisle at the supermarket, it's just like. It's like a circus, you know? It's like, oh, eat me, eat me, eat me. All this stuff. Oh, yeah, it looks so good and attractive, and kids love it. Yeah, Yeah. I like using, though, as a term.
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I'm using, it's called eating, not using.
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I'm using Ho Hos, man.
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I'm using some potato chips.
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Hey, Dvorak, are you holding. Are you holding anything, man? Are you holding any. Any Twinkies?
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I'm holding a dime bag of potato chips.
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All right, clip three. You say, when big tobacco took over food, what do you mean by that?
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In the 1960s, 70s and 80s, Philip Morris and R.J. reynolds started buying up the big food companies like Kraft and General Foods. They created some of your favorite Products and marketed them like Hawaiian Punch and Lunchables. Researchers like Laura Schmidt, who has found that they have applied technologies, flavorants, marketing strategies that were honed to sell tobacco products and have applied them to the ultra processed food holdings. They divested some of these food companies in the mid 2000s. But the stamp of big tobacco on our food supply has never changed. It's actually just amplified over time and fundamentally changed. The food that we, we eat, should.
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It be regulated the way tobacco is now?
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Yeah, when I read things that the food industry is saying, you know, they're talking a lot about how to turn cravings into corporate profits. Or they'll say, you know, indulgence has really been a main profit margin for us. That's a big driver of how we're making money. And so we've needed time and time again for the government to step in and put some guardrails on those sorts of companies so we and our children can live happy, sustainable, nourished lives rather than being in these cycles of just craving and crashing. That doesn't benefit us, but does benefit those corporations.
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Okay, I'm calling it. This is a marketing ploy. This is a marketing ploy for these companies now to start selling healthy, non addictive, which is bulk crap.
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I don't know how a lawsuit can become a marketing ploy. They're not behind the lawsuit lawsuit, by the way, in her, in her commentary, Nestle, which is one of the biggest monster companies, what have they got to do with tobacco? No one ever mentions that.
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Well, when I was a kid, the, the evil big food and tobacco companies were already working together together. And in Christmas time, in our stocking, we would get a pack of chocolate cigarettes. Remember that? That was a setup, man.
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I remember candy cigarettes, but I don't remember chocolate cigarettes.
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You had them.
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Candy cigarettes were white, some sort of chalky, crunchy.
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You had that. You had some were chewing gum.
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I've never. No, not here.
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When I was a kid, we didn't have E bikes. We put playing cards in our spokes. Remember that? We didn't have ooh, Uber. We had feet. We had feet. We had feet. We walked. We had feet. We didn't have lattes. We had folgers with flavor crystals. We didn't have avocado toast with nine grain bread. We had wonder bread with butter. You know, we didn't have Instagram. We went to the photo mat. You had to wait a week. We didn't have Tick tock. We had 8 millimeter film with sound. We didn't have a Hundred friends. We went to the mall and hung out where there was no World of Warcraft. We had Pong and Mrs. Pac Man.
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You.
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These kids don't know how good they have it.
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I think it was Ms. Pac Man.
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Ms. Pac Man. Yes, Ms. Pac Man. That was good. And the days were good, and we loved it. Call me an Uber dad walk.
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Yeah, well, I mean, there may be some marketing aspect to it and, you know, like Coca Cola's name, but I don't know what, What's Coca Cola got to do with tobacco? This tobacco angle is what bothers me. It's bull crap. Tobacco companies. You're, you're. You're a big tobacco company. You're looking to diversify. So you get into the food. Food business because. Yeah, it's not so you can make the food more addictive. It's because you know how to sell. You know how to sell things and you, you like. And you're. You're losing your ability to. To advertise, but you have the skill sets to do it, so you advertise. You're good at advertising. That's what you do. You're basically a seller, sales company.
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Yeah, I think you're right.
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You know, boom, you're selling something else. So what difference does it make?
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Yeah, you're right.
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But blaming tobacco. Yeah. Those evil tobacco guys.
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I supported them from. For 58.
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Now, I never supported him, but I didn't see it as a. I smoked.
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For 40, 40 plus years.
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That's a lot of smoking.
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That's a lot.
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You used to roll your own, too, which cracked me up.
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Well, for most, most of my life, I rolled my own. When I was young, when I was smoking at 13, 14, we go hang out at the, at the phone booth.
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You tug on the string that had the little pack of tobacco.
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No, no, no.
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You tug on the string to close.
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It up, shove it back. Now, we bought Drum. Drum. Tobacco was in a pouch. He had your papers and that mechanism. I can still roll my own cigarette with one hand because. Or you hold the steering wheel with your knees. That's what a Tesla would be good for. I roll up my tobacco here.
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Yeah, yeah. You don't even have to hold the steering wheel with your knees.
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Yeah, Drum. Drum was my favorite drum. And then you had some of the tough guys guys, they had the vanilla, and that was black tobacco. Oh, man. And then later, I was on a Galawaz kick for a while. Remember Galawas?
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Oh, yeah, the French cigarettes.
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Oh, it's like smoking a turd. But it was Cool.
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It's like the people that smoke.
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Clove Cretek was the brand from Indonesia. Hey, you gotta smoke. Yeah, I got some Kretex. Oh, that's too bad, because it's horrible. It was nasty and it would pop and sparkle and. And then you got a burn hole in your clothes and your mom would be like, how did this happen? Oh, no, no, no, no. Of course.
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Later, just, ah, the good old days.
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They were good old days. Not like those kids in New York. They've got mom, Donnie.
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Few of these eight and a half million will fit into neat and easy boxes. Some will be voters from Hillside Avenue.
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Or Fordham Road who supported President Trump.
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A year before they voted for me. Tired of being failed by their party's establishment, the majority will not use the language that we often expect from those who wield influence. I welcome the change. For too long, those fluent in the good grammar of civility have deployed decorum to mask agendas of cruelty. Many of these people have been betrayed by the established order.
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You know, before I finish, he has a little bit of. A little bit of an Obama cadence, but it's all his own. And as an orator, I'm impressed. The words, you know this. It's blah, blah, blah, but it's good. And of course, the classic is coming up here.
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But in our administration, their needs will be met. Their hopes and dreams and interests will be reflected transparently in government. They will shape our future. And if for too long these communities have existed as distinct from one another, we will draw this city closer together. We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism. If our campaign demonstrated that the people of New York yearn for solidarity, then let this government foster it.
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He's not gonna do any of it. I don't think he's gonna do a single thing.
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I mean, no, he's just a big talker. Yeah, he's good at it though.
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Yes, but it's probably just gonna get more corrupt. He. Oh, he. He did some anti Jew stuff. Everyone's all up in arms. Listen to this.
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Pro Israel groups are slamming Mermaidani for revoking two executive order Mayor Adams meant to support Israel. One of them barred city agencies from boycotting or divesting from Israel. The other adopted the international Holocaust remembrance alliance definition of anti Semitism. It equates some forms of anti Israel criticism with anti Semitism. These executives orders are two of nine that Mamdani revoked because they came after Adams was in indicted on federal corruption charges. Mayor Mamdani said he Wanted a fresh start for his administration. He did not revoke the creation of the city's office to combat anti Semitism, which Adams created in May.
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Oh, weak. Weak. Should have done that. I was reading a Salon article about the. About the block party. You know, Marissa Torme is out there and, you know, with their red hats, you know, their socialist hats, their DSA hats, and everyone's passing out coffee and. Isn't it great? Yes, a great moment. 25 degrees in New York.
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Brrr.
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We can just call it. The guy's not going to do anything. It'll just be sad if some New Yorkers get hurt because he's putting incompoops in charge of police fire. We'll have to see. I hope, I hope it.
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Oh, yeah, I think it's. Yeah, he's. I don't. I agree. I think he's not going to do anything, but he's going to. By putting idiots in charge of various departments. It's going to be a problem at some point.
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And who will get blamed? Black women?
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Well, the head of the fire department. The lesbian is not black.
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Yeah, but listen, this is the socialist place playbook. Like, we make big talk, big promises. And of course, he said, oh, we're going to tax the rich. Well, how did that work for Ro Khanna? Isn't that his name? Ro Khanna?
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Yeah, he's out here.
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Yeah, he said, oh, 5% wealth tax on all billionaires. And everyone went, okay, we're primary, you bitch. They said, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that. Yeah. You have 2,000 billionaires in California, apparently.
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No, there's about 200, maybe.
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Oh, I thought it was more than that.
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Well, still, I don't think it's that even 200. I could be wrong.
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It's not a lot of money these days anymore.
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A lot of people are worth a lot of money, but a billion is an extreme amount.
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Yeah, well, in 1990, a house was 20 grand. Well, that's the thing that needs to be fixed. Definitely need. There's. So I. I haven't really figured it out yet, but I keep hearing Tom Luongo talking about what Trump's going to do with Fanny Mae and Freddy Mack and that's somehow going to fix it. Do you.
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I don't think you. The f you. How you fix is you build more houses and get rid of the migrants.
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Yeah, well, one check mark on that. It's starting getting rid of the mood.
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Since we're in the mood. Don't want to miss this report about you know about super flu?
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I have it.
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Yeah, you had it. And of course, you know, you've already determined that. And they've determined, and they like to say that, that, you know, the vaccine doesn't work at all for it and, but they're going to still beat us up. You know, it might not work, but, you know, it kind of works. And, and so now the technique they're using in this report is let's first scare people about measles.
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Yes.
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And then we can tell him to get the flu shot.
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Isn't this the special K? The sub sublocade K or sub sub K sublocades.
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Something stupid.
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I call it special K. Diesel's cases in the US have skyrocketed, skyrocketing in over three decades. How many is that skyrocket sky? Is it to the moon? Is it to Mars? How high is it?
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It's less than 3, 000. So we have the entire population of 300 million million people skyrocketing. We have, we have less than 1 1, less than a percent. Okay.
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CDC. The number of recorded measles cases this year has topped 2000 for the first time in more than 30 years. The measles cases were confirmed across 44 states. Here in Washington, there were 12, 1212 confirmed measles cases in 2025. Earlier this month, the contagious virus was.
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Detected at two major airports during peak.
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Holiday travel Airport Liberty International Airport in New Jersey and at Boston Logan Airport.
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The measles spike is being attributed to.
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A drop in national vaccination rates, not.
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Just measles on the rise.
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New data from the CDC shows flu cases continuing to spike across the country, driven by a new variant called Superflu. Superflu. Superflu. As Steve Harrigan shows us, the uptick in infections comes as vaccination rates remain low. Health officials across the country are scrambling to continue a new surge of respiratory illnesses. And while Covid and RSV are on the radar this year, a new variant nicknamed super flu is causing the most infections.
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It just so happens that this subclade K variant that we're seeing really does seem to spread very efficiently. It's just part of its genetic makeup.
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You can see here on the CDC's latest flu tracker, most of the country is experiencing high activity activity. So far this season, we've seen at least 7 1/2 million cases, 81,000 hospitalizations and more than 3,000 deaths. Experts say the virus is affecting children more severely. And that trend is expected to continue as people return from holiday travel.
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If you go to the urgent care.
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Clinics or doctors offices or even emergency.
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Rooms, they are flooded now with a lot of flu patients. Another big driver vaccine hesitancy. Only 42% of adults have gotten the flu shot this year. Doctors say while the new variant is not a perfect match for the vaccine, recent analysis from the UK finds the shot offers at least partial protection. Oh, yeah. All right.
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What does that mean, partial?
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You won't die. You know, this is interesting. So super flu. I typed that into my handy dandy, a clip search machine. And I come up with a clip from September 2019, which would be just before COVID Am I right in the timeline here?
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I think so.
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And this is.
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I mean, Covid, I think came out in 2019. No, no, but that's before COVID became flatten the curve and all the rest.
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No, that.
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I mean, because I think that person died already. That person in Washington state may have died by that. By September, but.
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But I. No, because I think I went to Rogan in October and it was two weeks after that. That. Because that's when the doctor Doom was on. What's the guy's name again? Yeah, that guy who has long Covid now ironically, whatever that is.
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Gee, I wonder how that happened.
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So now this could be a dud, but I'd just like to listen because this was titled super flu with Dr. Mark Siegel. You remember that guy?
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Yeah, he's still around. He's on Fox.
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Yeah, and he was on Tucker. A new report by the World Health Organization says it's just a matter of time, maybe not that much time before a major flu pandemic in today's hyper globalized world.
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The report says the super flu could spread worldwide in just 36 hours and.
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Potentially kill 80 million people. Are we prepared for that?
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Could we prepare for that, Doctor?
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Isn't that interesting that the cdc, they say cdc? A world health organization. Let me listen again. A new report by the World Health Organization. So they were talking about a super flu, September 19, 2019, that could fly around the world in 36 hours and kill 80 million people.
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Yeah. Which was the numbers we were given for Covid hit.
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So think about that setup. Isn't that interesting?
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Yeah, gee.
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So when they come up with the superfluid again, be careful what they're doing with that. I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the dime bag of chips. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only, Mr. John C. Divor.
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Are you.
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Are you all right.
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Good morning. You sand see wisdom, graphene, the air subs in the water, the dames and knights out there in the morning, to.
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The trolls in the troll room. Let me count you for a second. There we go. There we go. There we go. 2162. I love a good, I love a good invasion and distraction. I love it when Trump does something. I love it. I, I, I, I'll be honest.
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He needs to do more.
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He needs to do more of this stuff. Yeah. Because everyone, let's see what the boys got to say. Let's listen to them. Let's see, let's see what those, how many, what they're doing for the Israel shekels. Hasbara. Remember, Netanyahu just left the White House when all this kicked off.
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I'm just saying, must have been Netanyahu behind it because he calls the shots.
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I'm just asking questions. Those trolls are in the troll room Trollroom IO and they are probably listening on a modern podcast app. By the way, if you go to alex alpha.podverse.com you can check out the new web version of Podverse. I just had Mitch and Archie on the show. They're doing good stuff. It's all, every single podcasting 2.0 features they've jammed in there. But you can find them all@podcastapps.com and that means that when we go live, you'll be alerted with a live notification. It's actually, it's pretty cool. You listen to the live stream right there in your podcast app. It's the new form of radio, people. I'm just telling you, I tell you now, and in 10 years, it'll be so. And I will have made no money. That's how I, that's how I roll. I've seen it time and time again. So get in on the train early. So those trolls are in the troll room. And of course, you can participate at that any time that you want to. And you can participate in many ways on this podcast by helping us with your time, your talent, or your treasure. Now, normally we, we will thank the artist for episode 18. However bad news we had, we got. Sir Paul Couture emailed us and said, well, we had a disastrous crash. And of course, Paul Couture has been running the art generator for a long time. And it's, it's usually stable stuff.
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He's been running it because he invented it.
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He is, he certainly did invent it. And, you know, sometimes things go wrong and sometimes things break. And so he lost all of the submission that were put in since the previous show, I guess. Except for what he saved was everything that was chosen. So we're sorry we can't nag and rag on all the previous AI generated art because it's all gone. But we can thank Jeffrey Ria for bringing us the artwork for episode 1830, which was titled Bulb Heads. Got a lot of comments on that.
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Which I didn't get any comments.
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Oh, well, I mean. And people, like, put a bikini on it. No, I saw it in my timeline.
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Bikini.
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And I just wanted to say that this incredibly racist comment did not come from you or from me, but came from Mimi.
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Mimi's the one who first told me used the term bulbhead.
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It's so horrible. It's gotta be the worst. But there it is.
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That was her description of the guy who ran for mayor.
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Which mayor? For what?
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Minneapolis. That Somali that ran from Minneapolis mayor had a curious shaped cranium. Cranium. And she called him a bulbhead.
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How about. Have you seen. What's the girl who was just on Saturday Night Live? The great singer Ariana Grande.
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Yes. I've noticed that her look has changed.
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She has an alien head.
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So I think she went through. She got some. I think she had some work done, and I don't think it came out.
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Well, but it's like the back of her head extends half a head longer than it should. You gotta take a look at it.
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Yeah, she's also. Doesn't look the. Her face is also skewed.
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But she changed.
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Maybe a different person.
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That's possible. But she can sing, I'll tell you that.
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Oh, yeah, she's always had a good voice.
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Girl can sing. So. Thank you, Jeffrey Ria. And again, we can't. We can't nag and rag on anything else because it's all gone. But noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can upload your homemade art or your slop as you.
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So, yeah, it's working now.
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Yeah, it is working now.
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Well, it's accepting art.
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It is accepting art. I see some interesting things already that I'm liking. Remember, it's not about the tool. It's about the thought behind it. It's about the humor. Can you get our attention with something funny? Usually simple is better. Keep it simple. That's usually better. Don't try to fill it up with all kinds of little gags and things in the background. And just keep it simple. And often. And this is a big mistake people make is they will put a title underneath the art, which makes it Very funny. But if you don't read that title, you don't understand the art. How do I explain it? Right.
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So it doesn't work as standalone humor.
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No, it doesn't. It doesn't.
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Yeah. You can't do two part humor. You can't have a connective title name that makes it funny.
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Yeah. I'm already telling you, Darren o' Neill is ahead. He's already got some zingers here.
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Well, he's got to do something to make up for a show today.
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Yeah, that's true. Noagenda artgenerator.com is where you can upload your art. We love it. It's a lot of fun. At this point. It's open to everybody with a kid keyboard, you can just go to your favorite generator and say, make me some podcast art for this podcast.
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And.
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And usually it turns out okay. So thank you very much, Jeffrey. Ria, well done, sir. You. You thwarted Darren's hat trick, which he was very bummed about. Good job. Of course, we have the treasure portion of our value for value, which is very simple. We give you the whole show. Nothing behind paywalls, no subscriptions needed, no levels, no tote bags. None that of that stuff. You just get the whole show in its entirety. Do with it what you want. You listen to it. Maybe you laughed. Maybe you got something out of it. Maybe you learned something. Maybe you can now sound smarter at the dinner table. Teach your kids something, get somebody in the mouth, which is a great form of time, talent, treasure. You just send it back to us, put it into a number, go to no agenda donations.com and send that to us. That's how works. And that is the only way it's worked for 18 years. And we're still here for at least four more years. We thank everybody who supports us $50 and above. And in this segment, we'd like to thank the people who are fortunate enough to be able to send us more or maybe just got so much value, like I just got to send these guys a higher number. $200 or more. We give you a credit. Yes, there is. It's not like a level you have to achieve, but we'll give you that grato. You become an executive associate, executive producer, and you can use that. That is a credit on the on the show notes page in perpetuity. You also can use that anywhere where Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDb.com you can start it up right there and you can collect your Credits. Collect all 15$300 and above. An executive producer credit is what you get. And in both cases, we will read your note. So we start. Start with Arch Duchess Kim, keeper of the nutty Fluffers, who sent in a handwritten note. No, I'm sorry. Typ note along with. Whoa. $2,625. Am I reading that right?
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Apparently.
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Wow. That's amazing, Kim. Okay, she says ITM Adam and John jingles. Oh, she goes with the jingles right ahead. Right. Right up front. Beautiful.
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She's a pro.
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See? She is a pro. Screw your freedom, little girl. Yay. And R2D2 Karma. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to both. And all of gitmonation. I hope this coming year is full of joys and defeats, because it is only in defeat that we will grow if we choose to listen to the lessons taught within. She's a scholar. This donation is 26 for the new year and hopes it will bring. And the 25 is on the end to signify what's done is done. Wow, she's like a theologian. Also, I want to say a very merry Christmas. Christmas to the best high school math teacher in the world, my dear friend angel. And to the best parents a lady could ask for. Knight, John the Grumpy Miner. And Melody. Sounds like Melody needs dame title. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Archduchess Kim, Keeper of the Nutty Fluffards. Fluffers from Hubbard, Oregon. Thank you very much, Kim. That is really appreciated.
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Screw your freedom.
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Yay.
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You've got karma.
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Let me move on to another check that came in as a check. And then. Which is good. And then another check came in from Samuel Barrett from Vernon Rockwell, Connecticut. 885 cents. Which also had a note giant memo.
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Page which looks like a 10 templates.
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Yeah, ITM Jan says a listener of the show since Adam's first rogan appearance in March 4, 2020. Now, Adam just told us that his first appearance was in October of 2019.
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Well, there it is. I guess I was wrong. So it came before. Because right after Rogan, that's when it. When the shutdown came two weeks later. So world health.
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But the first person who dropped dead, the guy who dropped dead in Washington state, which we recovered first. Dead guy. Yeah, From COVID I think was predating the super flu con clip.
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Well, I think. But the fact that who was calling it that way is sus. Yeah, very sus. Hey, did you see, by the way, what Samuel did in the cc?
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Adam Corolla Curry.
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No, he has Corolla crossed out Curry. Oh, I did join Joker.
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Joker oh, yes. Slightly crossed out. Adam Corolla.
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Thanks.
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That is funny. I'll continue as a listener to the show since Adam's first rogan appearance on March 4, 2020. I'm ashamed to admit this is my first donation and I require a de douching. You've been de douched. That's a long time to wait, but thank you. Hopefully these Great big boobs.
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885. Yes.
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Makes sense with the 5 is the S boobs and they're big. Will make up for it. For now, I'm wishing Adam, John and Gitmo Nation a happy New Year from Fijijin. It's not FEMA region anymore. It's Fijian FEMA region 1. And would like to. To request an F cancer for my mom, who's currently recovering. Also a Trump Mac and cheese, because I just love that one so much.
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What? There is no Trump Mac and cheese.
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There's no Trump Mac and cheese.
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But I'll make one. I'll make one for you.
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And then he says, and I want to clarify this note to Adam, don't let John keep Tom Sawyering you into calling out the 50s and above. Above. No. This was a decision we made after I had been doing it for 17 years and clearly getting burned out from it. Could barely read the names, let alone the cities and the notes.
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Yeah. It was an executive decision we made.
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And it was not. Were you the one that suggested it or I say strongly suggested it. And I was glad to go along with it because, yeah, let Adam do this work for a while.
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That's not Tom Sorry Sawyering at all.
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No. If I had tricked him into it. Yes. But I didn't. I was. I would go on my merry ways, just reading like a.
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And I. And I wonder. I just wonder how many people even understand the term Tom Sawyering. Do you think that people have. Have read Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn at this point in our life?
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No. The number of people that know what Tom Sawyering is is probably.
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Hey, man, wasn't that a cool track?
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20% of the audience, maybe 20% if you were lucky.
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It was a great, great track by Rush, man. Those guys at Tom Sawyer like nobody else.
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Few slaves can get used to Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.
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Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, everybody. They're eating the dogs.
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You've got karma.
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Kind of a partial Trump there.
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I think eating the dogs works.
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Yes. We move on to James Scott from Parlin, NJ 222, which is a row of ducks. No note that I found from James. So we will give him a double up.
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Karma.
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You've got double up karma.
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Well then we go to Matthew Dunage and St. Claire, Michigan who came in with 202 and has just a single word. Godspeed.
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Godspeed indeed. And there's Eli the coffee guy from Bensonville, Illinois with 201.04. He says he's from Gigawa Coffee Roasters. He's a Happy new Year gentlemen. And to all those in Gitmo. Thanks to Edward Shazia Saja for the plug last episode. It made John touch on the difference in my roasting technique. And John is to ready right? I do use an unconventional roast profile, but I can't take all the credit. Starting with really great green coffee helps a lot. The farmers who work hard to grow the coffee are the real heroes. I just helped the beans sing. He's such a Humble Man. Visit Gigawatt Coffee Roasters.com use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. He says, I'd like a karma for all those out there around the globe who grow our food. Except for the bastards who try to feed us bull bugs. I guess that happens in the coffee business. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy. And here's a go Karma, you've got karma.
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Which brings us to Jeff Gross, a gro in Jeff Grohl in Sandy, Utah. He came with 200 bucks. I can't find a note from him so he gets a double up. Karma.
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Yes indeed, you've got double up karma. Okay, Next, from Gainesville, Florida, $200, we have Lupita Ide Tucker I believe. And she says Adam and John, please deduce you've been de douched. My name is Lupita and I live in Gainesville, Florida. My big bro Neil hit me in the mouth back in 2021 and I'm a homeschooling mom who has been helping families homeschool in Florida for over 20 years. Wow. That's what I call a patriot. And I would like to plug my substack pathtograduation.substack.com pathtograduation.subStack.com and my transcripts, evaluations, consulting and college application services for homeschooled students through my company, Florida Homeschool Advisor, llc llc. Well, hereby plugged.
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Thank you for all you Nice work.
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Yeah, incredible work. Thank you for all you do for our sanity. Sending blessings and lights to you both. Kindness regards, Lupita Ide Tucker. That is pathtograduation substack.com we need more. More women like this. More moms, more homeschooling moms. Beautiful.
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Carla Reinhardt comes in from Sioux Rapids, Iowa. Sioux Rapids, yes. Yeah, I never heard of that, but okay. Sioux rapids, Iowa. 200 bucks. No jingle, no. No note. No jingles, no nothing.
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Double up. Karma.
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Karma.
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Boom.
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Which leaves us with the final. She's always at the bottom of the list, but she's always there. 200. Associate executive producer for Linda Loupatkin from Castle Rock, Colorado. And she says, give me some job jobs.
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Karma.
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And for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs. So right after you get homeschooled by Lupita, you can go to Linda. That's two L's there. And she'll help you out with all of your executive resume and job search needs. That is ImageMakers Inc. With a K work with Linda Liu, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. Signed Linda.
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Jobs, Jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
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Lovely. Thank you very much. Our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1831. These credits are real. They will be in the show notes in perpetuity. And you can now proudly present yourself as an executive or associate executive producer of the no Agenda show. And of course, you can go to IMDb.com if you don't already have a profile, you can start one, add it in there. Make sure you look official because it is. Put it on your LinkedIn profile. And if anyone ever questions you about your executive or associate executive producership, we will vouch for you. Just give us a call. Go to noagendadonations.com to support the no Agenda show. Value for value. Any amount you want at any time, for any reason, you just send it in. We love the cool numbers. Go to noagendadonations.com Congratulations. Congratulations to these producers.
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Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth. They're eating the dogs.
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Shut up.
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Sleep. So I did want to get this out of the way. This is the. We don't have anything on the Minnesota fraud. At least I don't. I do have a comment from Walls that I think is worth playing is about the leering center. I guess there is no way to put this delicately.
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So basically, we're.
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They caught us.
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The FBI is looking at all of us right now. So please tell your brothers, your husbands, well, you're from Somalia, so your brothers are probably your husbands, whatever. Just tell all your family members to shut it all down right friggin now. If you have kids, put them in.
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A truck and take them to the.
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Nearest quality learning center. I know it's supposed to say learning, but you're also stupid. You couldn't even get the sign right.
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Anyway, take them to the learning center.
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And tell them to pretend like they're learning. Okay. It just doesn't work in audio if you don't see it. It has to have the video. I think these AI things, they, they lose it in audio.
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What?
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Yeah, I think they lose it in audio.
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You think that was A.I.
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Please. No.
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Please. Yeah, I, I, I disagree.
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I, you're telling me, you're telling me that's.
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No, that was a. Okay, I'm just, I'm going to disagree in general. I'm not disagreeing about that particular. That wasn't a very good voice. The voice was not trained properly. It didn't sound enough. Like walls. It should be exaggerated. Exaggerated a little bit. It should be. I think this is closer. This is Liz Warren complaining.
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Oh, sorry. Wasn't prepared for that. Liz.
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Trans community is not a violent community. We are a peaceful people. I myself am trans. I'm trans race. I identify as a Native American from the tribe of Retard Ho, descendants of the Navajo and the Stupid Hoes. And we are a peaceful people.
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Yeah, okay. You know the problem, problem is you don't see what's going on the background. You don't see that. And it's like, and, and, and for some reason, people can't write something funny enough. They have to put cuss words in there. And I'm a, you know, it's like, it's, it's old, I guess. Put a bikini on her. That would be funnier. Just, it's, No, I just thought it.
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Was worth a shot.
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I'm underwhelmed. I'm just underwhelmed.
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Yeah, you're, you're right, you're picky. You have better ears than most people. But that. I thought the Warren voice sounded very close.
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I got a big report out of Germany. This is right out of a movie, people. It's being described as one of the biggest heists in German history. Investigators are now trying to work out how thieves managed to steal valuables worth tens of millions of euros from a bank in the western city of Gelsenkirchen.
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Police believe a large drill was used.
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To break through a thick, thick basement wall to reach their loot.
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Hundreds of furious customers descend on their bank, terrified that everything they own has vanished.
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I have entrusted and invested all my savings here.
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I didn't sleep last night.
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They are not giving us any information.
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Emergency services discovered the break in on Monday morning after the fire alarm went off. Firefighters and police officers searched the bank for a possible fire. But instead of flames, they found a hole in the basement wall and a ransacked vault containing cash, gold and jewelry worth tens of millions of euros.
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If someone had a safety deposit box, there's a high probability that it was broken into because 90% of them have.
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Some victims fear their losses may exceed the insured value of their boxes. Here. My mother's gold coin is gone. She passed away in 1988. My grandmother's gold bracelets, which I hoped would secure my daughter's future. Investigators are still piecing together how it all happened, but they believe the burglars used a nearby parking garage to gain access to the bank. Police say the evidence points to a highly organized operation.
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I would definitely say this is quite spectacular. It is really unique compared to anything I've ever seen, heard or read. I have never heard of any similar case, except perhaps on tv. This was like an Ocean's eleven. They drilled this huge hole through, you know, like a two foot wall. How old school is that?
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Yeah, that's pretty good. You have to have that. Takes a lot of planning.
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Yeah. And who puts their gold coin in a vault in the bank anymore? More. That doesn't sound.
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I know. Just said one gold coin. I have my one. You know, I have a very small tract of land. It's a little parcel. My parcel of land is in the. And then cash. Why would you put cash in a safe deposit box?
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Yeah, put it in your mattress like normal people.
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That's what you do. Or you maybe put it in the bank where it's insured.
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Yeah. The big thing now is people come in and rouse you at home and say, give me a bitcoin key. That's the big one. Now they're kidnapping people everywhere for it.
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First you have to know that somebody has a bitcoin key.
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Well, if you're.
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How would they know?
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Well, if you're the CEO of an exchange or if you're boastful. Now, of course, the way to go is two or three multisig. So I can give you my key, but without the other two, you can't. Or at least one of the other two, you can't get to it.
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You've just given it away.
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Well, no, I'm not giving nothing away.
A
Yeah, you are. You just Told people, everybody out there, every criminal listens to this show and there's probably more than one. You've just told them that there's a three key system that you use and now they're going to have to beat it out of you.
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No, but I don't have the other two. The other two are not in my possession. That's the beauty of it.
A
Oh, where are they?
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With a trust company. No, no. Oh, yeah. That's. That is the only way to recover them.
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So you can't be beaten into submission. So you could. Well, they can be forced.
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They can be. They're not going to get my bitcoin, but come and take it, suckers. We're ready here in Fredericksburg.
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I have two tick tock clips.
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Okay, I'll go.
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Oh, whoa.
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I'll go. I'll go with you. That's fine. I'll go with you.
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Okay. Just. Just deluded women. I just. I'm sorry. I'm gonna try to. I'm weaning myself.
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Here's a question. Thank you. Here's a question. Have you already posted these on Twitter? Because I see some. I mean your time. You're in my timeline now all the time and that and it's like it ruins it because then I see. I see these clips on, on, on X and like. Oh, and then you play them on show. You need to segregate that stuff.
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I'm stuff. I'm going to do that.
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Why are you giving valuable show material to Elon Musk?
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I'm. I'm not going to argue with your point. Okay, let's start with the box checker.
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I always get asked if I want children. And the short answer is maybe the long answer is I will not be having kids with a man unless he could check off these boxes for me. For starters, the man will absolutely have to be my husband. I would never give a man a baby without the biggest rock on my finger. The second box would be a push present is a non negotiable for me. I want either a. A car or house. It's a non negotiable. Also assuming the man I will be with would be tatted, so he would have to get a tattoo of my face on his stomach because it's a body for a body. My body's gonna change forever. So should his. The third box would be that I need a house cleaner. And then the fourth box would be that I need a full time nanny. I already know who the nanny would be. It would be a family member. But I want that family member to be very well compensated for their time and energy. So yeah, remember before you type some nasty ass shit that these are my requirements. Right? You don't have to have any requirements. If you just want to have a baby for the free or if you just want to be a man that wants to give a woman a baby and you, you want to do nothing else but spread your seed and have nothing else to offer the woman, then you know, live your life. This is my life and I will not be changing and sacrificing my whole entire life without these boxes being checked off. Okay, okay.
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Well, first of all, I think the correct term for a woman like this is not a box checker, but a box for box. Second, although this is somewhat exaggerated, this is in fact the problem with many women, as I've heard from many young men, that they do have these boxes and it's the sixes, typically six feet tall, six pack abs, six, six figure salary, etc. Etc. And I think that the, the woke Democrat liberal culture that we are weaseling our way out of has ruined them.
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Yeah, I think so too. They're ruined.
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So it's.
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This is a ruined person.
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Yeah, that's actually very sad. I'm very sad for her, but I believe that to be reasonably authentic.
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Oh, thank you. That's one of the few clips that you thought were real. Yeah, I think it was authentic and I'm not sorry for her, I'm just. I think she's sickening person.
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Yeah, but, but I, I have love for everybody, John. Yeah, yeah I do. Even my enemies.
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Here is the. Another one. This is a. Now this one is interesting because this, this is a. Another delusional woman. And, and she, and this has got a twist in it which was the, it really took me aback and the only reason I'm playing it is for the little twist at the, the end.
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What I find really comical, me and all my liberal friends want to be traditional housewives. Well, not all of us, but most of us. But the problem is we don't like Republican men because they don't have the same sense of justice and morality that we do because we care for every human being. And the liberal men don't believe in exploiting themselves for labor. So like we have to have an equal household because the only one ones that bust their ass and make enough money to support a stay at home, mom, wife, whatever are the Republican men because they will exploit the out of themselves for money. Then they're miserable and burn out and take it out on everyone. Around them and refuse to take meds. So it's like, I'd rather be alone.
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Well, your wish is granted, young lady.
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Yeah, she'll be alone. But what is this thing that they, they get all, you know, know, they, they have issues because they're working too hard and they have to and they will and they refuse to take meds was the kicker. What is wrong with these people? Oh, they refuse. I'm not going to run off of the Republican men. They refuse to take meds.
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Everybody's on meds, man.
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Obviously on meds.
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But I would say 9 out of 10 of the TikTok women you play are on meds. You have no idea. And it's all, it's all SSRIs, all of them. You know what I'm. What I'm kind of worried about or let's just a quick conversation. So if President Trump pulls off what he's trying to pull off and there will be a lot of jobs, but these will be trade jobs. Jobs. Do you think that there will be enough young people who, who actually want to do this, who want to retool, reschool, learn how to do these things? Can we actually go back to a productive, a production type economy with the type of people we have now? Do you think the, the zeds will do it or have they been completely ruined?
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I think they can be brainwashed into doing it.
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Well, really.
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I mean, it just seems that at some point you've just got to be sick of the boring life of sitting behind a PlayStation or not having a girlfriend or not having anything going on and you're getting old. And by old I mean 30. And maybe you can learn how to be a plumber. I mean it's, I think people that are already 30, it may be too late for them, but people are coming up. They, they look at what's ahead and they see the opportunity for them not to go that way.
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I hope so.
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Be the 40 year old guy living in the house, still living at home.
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Yeah, I hope so.
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40 year old virgin, basically.
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Yeah, I hope, I hope so.
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Yeah, we'll find out soon enough.
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I hope the people take advantage of the opportunity because it's going to be good money. I really. It's going to be good paying Eugene jobs. No, it's going to be good money. You can already see it happening. I think it's. What is it? Apprenticeships.gov. they're doing a million apprenticeships but no one talks about it. No one ever says, hey, there's some opportunities out there. You should probably jump in on that. Get your hands dirty. Oh, I don't know. I've been looking at this Fuentes on Owens AJ clip for three hours. I'd love to know what that is before we.
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Yeah, okay. This is just a clip, a snippet from.
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Tell me it's not AI, John.
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It's not AI. This was a snippet of. Fuentes was on Alex Jones recently.
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Oh, I missed it.
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Yeah, he did. And they. They. Alex Jones. Just a love fest between these two. I mean, they're genuinely like each other. It's seems unlike Tucker. I like him. I like him. Kids got.
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He's got gusto. Yeah, kids got gusto. And Globeless, he's all against them.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's good. You got it. You nailed it. Yeah, I nailed it. Come on, Donor.
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So.
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So they get along. But. So. But Fuentes drops this little bomb about Candace and her. You know, he does understand that she comes. You know, that she married a character who's part of the British royalty nexus and all the rest. But. But he's. She throw. He throws in another character I never knew anything about specifically, and he puts it in there as a quizzical situation that he doesn't understand why people are talking about one thing or another about Candace, but they never bring this guy up. And this is the guy, this guy who's been supporting her, John Mappin. I don't know why nobody's talking about John Mappin, the Scientologist, the heir to the jeweler that creates the crown jewels for the British royal family. He allegedly introd her and her husband. He's been so supportive.
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She retweets him.
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He's writing letters to her. He was best friends with Charlie Kirk. His wife is from Russia. I don't know why nobody's talking about that guy.
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No one's talking about George Farmer.
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They all met through Turning Point uk. So you have Turning Point usa. She met her husband through Turning Point uk.
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She made a bag off of Turning.
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Point USA and Turning Point uk. So there's definitely something suspicious going on there.
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Maybe a foreign intelligence play of its own. Oh, he's finally catching on to the North Sea Nexus. Oh, that's good. We need him to be talking about that. That's good. Yeah, I know about this John Mappin guy.
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Is it Mappin?
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M A P, P I N. John Mappin. Hey, Globalist. You know, it's interesting. Tina and I have been watching the series Victoria on Netflix, which is about Queen Victoria who ascended to the throne when she was. I think 18 years old. And.
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And I'm the Virgin Queen.
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She was the Virgin Queen, yes. And of course, Albert, the. And they're all Germans, which is great because she came from Coburg, Albert came from. They're all. They're all Germans.
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The whole.
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They just change their name later. Windsor from Windsor. But it's. And I think it's a very accurate portrayal of those times. This is 1800s and you just see the riches that they got from the entire British Empire and how the British people suffered under them. Even though it's a love story and it's all beautiful, the costumes are phenomenal. But the British royalty do not give a hoot about the people. Not for one. They never have. Ever. They're just living in squalor among rats and eating stale bread and they got cholera, Indian cholera, and just. They don't care at all about them. It's amazing that people still want to live there at all because, you know, it's still the same with the House of Lords. They're just no good. Can I just state that they're just no good. I don't. The Brits, you know, I lived there for a couple, for five years. I like their humor. But they don't care about plebs. They really, really don't. Don't give a rat's ass about him. Your thoughts?
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I'm not going to disagree. I mean, I've. I had. I worked there. I went twice a year to London and the rest of the UK for about a decade. So I've been there enough to find my way around and drive, which is.
B
Always amusing, especially on the roundabouts, when you do it for the first time.
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The roundabouts, they're very. The roundabout. Roundabouts are a little frightening, but the rest of it's pretty easy when you.
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But I like going against traffic on the roundabout. I've done that. I've done that. I've done that.
A
The roundabouts are a rough go, but. And there's lots of them. But, But I found that they. There. There are royalists that really are just crazy about the royals, and I think it's very important to have them. And there's people that hate the royals and they're always considered like communists when they're not. It's. I really can't put my finger on whether I. I mean, I enjoy going there. I. I can, I can blend in as best I can, is anywhere. And as a pale white guy, you.
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Just eat some fish and chips or a curry and you're good to go.
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But I More did we do research? The more it's obvious that the. The British monarchy is stronger than we think it is. That we're convinced they tried to.
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They've sold the operation, suckered everybody into blue.
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Sucker everybody. But if you start looking at their total net worth, which is who knows. It's outrageous. You think Elon Musk is rich?
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No, no.
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You look at the net worth of these guys and the buildings and. And things that they own all over the place where this. Where what's his name, Andrew is kicked out of the lodge which was a huge mansion behind Windsor Castle. He had to go back to another other mansion someplace else.
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He has to use his old name. Von. Was it Mountbatten or whatever. He's not.
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Whatever it is, who cares? And so he's. Yeah, he's down one maid.
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Victoria. Victoria, they call her the grandmother of Europe because all of her kids, they're all royalty in Spain and all these different countries all throughout Europe. I mean the nexus really does come from them. And of course the Orange family who Queen Victoria said as they were looking for her to get married. Oh, I don't want to marry that pumpkin head Dutchman from Orange. Which pretty much describes the Dutch royal family Pumpkinheads. Yeah. It's just. Yeah. And they hate us. They hate us. They can't stand that we did so well. So I think that's. That concludes our North Sea next analysis. The Brits hate us and they hate. And they hate poor people.
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I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
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Imagine.
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Imagine all the people who could do that.
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Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
A
Well, we have a few people to think that gave us $50 and more. And Adam's going to read the list one by one. It's a very short list today it's only told very few. We didn't get good response except for the Kim of the nutty Fluffer. She helped us out quite a bit today.
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Show us.
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Yeah, she sure did pull this out.
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And I want to thank Loose. Hello. First of all, she sent me a box to my P.O. box. By the way, I got my liquid smoke as well from our. Our muscle car dame who we damed on the previous. She was one of the first dames of 2026. My liquid smoke was not breached, so it was good and I thank her very much. And Luce, she sent me a box with seven bags of Dutch licorice. I cannot.
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Seven bags?
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Yes, all different kinds. All because Dutch licorice is just. It's something to behold. I mean the different kinds. And I'm pre diabetic at this point because I'm addicted to this stuff. You can't just eat the bag. Oh, I'm gonna have a little licorice.
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Is it owned by a tobacco company?
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Definitely. They've made that stuff into crack. So. Thank you very much, Luce. It's a pretty appreciated. On the list we have one of our bitcoin donors who guess, did not send us a note that came in through strike. $137.16. Lukas Ziva from Bayerbrunn in Deutschland, 10126. Thank you. Baron Laticin from Houston, Texas. $100. And there's Kevin McLaughlin, our Archduke of Luna, lover of America and Boobs from Concord, North Carolina, with a boob donation. 8008. Steven Hutto, Petersburg, Florida. 75. Then we have the NICU NICU dad. He is a knight. We know the NICU dad from Kyle, Texas. $67. And he says, Gents, this $67 donation is being made in honor of the 67 days our daughter Emerson spent in the NICU. We've known him for a long time. To kick off the NICU dad donation challenge for 2026, he says he challenges NICU parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and others to donate in honor of their NICU warrior for each day they spend in the nicu. I appreciate your support. And one of the first, first and only 501 organizations in North America dedicated exclusively to NICU dads. So his request is, if there is anyone in Gitmo Nation who can help us produce some challenge coins to start giving to these NICU dads, please let me know. Contact me@thenicudad.com and I'll give you some karma at the end there for a blessed 2026. Lester Kowski, Kingman, Arizona. Small boob, 6600. Dame Nancy, San Bruno, California. Happy New Year. She says, thanks for keeping us sane. She's known as Dame Nancy of the confused. 5721. Double nickels on the dime from Brian Furley. We have Enos. From Usville. And that is the Czech Republic, I believe.
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Switzerland.
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Oh, ch is Switzerland. You're right. Doesn't sound like a Swiss name. Enos. $55. Thank you. Sean Murray, Warrenville, Illinois. 5432. We see what you did there. We love that. John Bassano, Madison, Alabama. 52. 72. Matt Frazee, St. John's Florida. These are the 50s. He's got 54. Thank you. Foster Birch from New York, New York. Daniel LaBoy, from Bath, Michigan. Hank Ringelberg in Drumton. James Sheremetta in Napa Notch, New York Chris Coniker from Anchorage, Alaska. Leslie Walker, Roseburg, Oregon. She says no agend best. Thanks Obama. Walker Phillips, San Rafael, California. Jason DeLuzio, Miami Beach, Florida. And we wind up with a frequent visitor to the 50s, Eichi Kitagawa from San Francisco. Thank you all very much for these $50 donations. These are the ones that we mentioned below. 50 we do not mention for reasons of anonymity, but we see it all. We see your notes and we see you 49.99 and we thank you very much. It's value for value. If you want the show to keep going, this is the only way we support ourselves and our and the work that we do for you. And we are happy to do it. We love doing it for you. Go to NoaGendaDonations.com and support the show once again. That's NoaGendaDonations.Com. Well, if we have a short donation list, how about the birthdays? We only have one. Jose Luna wishes his smoking hot wife Ally in San Antonio, Texas a very happy birthday. And we join in. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Now we have a couple of nights with some make goods. First of all, Jeffrey Ria. We didn't get a note from him on the last show, so he said this donation should make me a knight. Let's go with sir prompt Jockey of Madeira. Yes, he is from Spain. Portugal. I'm sorry. Four more years of sifting through my artwork. Thank you, Jeffrey Ria. Darius Gandhi. Also a make good note. He sent in three $333.33. He says congratulations on 18 big beautiful years.
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Madeira in Portugal. I thought it was in Spain, but.
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I think he is in Portugal. I thought he was from. If I recall, he was from Portugal.
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Oh, I remember he was in. I thought he was in Madeira.
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By the way, a lot of Madeira drinking at Windsor Castle in the Victoria show. I didn't know that Madeira was such a big deal for the Brits.
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I think it was a bigger deal back then. I mean, it's still the same product and you can still get it. Coming up in one of the tips of the day, I'll give a little Madeira lecture and you know what to do.
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Yes, I love you. I give you Madeira. Madeira. Back to Darius. Congratulations. Where else can John's file naming system drive Adam mad and still produce hours of perfect podcasting? Only on the no agenda show, you both somehow turn hours of La Traffic into minutes of pure, pure joy. I believe I've now met the requirements for knighthood day. For knighthood, I would like to be known as Sir Darius of Venice. California would love a bean and. Oh, I didn't roundtable write this one down. A bean and cheese burrito and a cold bottle of Mexican Coca Cola, which of course is the best. We drink it here in Texas.
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And by the way, that all Coca Cola will be Mexican. Coca Cola. Coca Cola. Is that when Robert Kennedy has his way?
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Oh, that's right. That's right. He says much respect and love to both you and your family. So I'll give him and the earlier requested nicu. Dad. Karma. A karma. Here we go.
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You've got karma.
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And let's knight those two gents right now if you can give me your blade.
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Yeah, you got a blade right here.
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Ah, that's a British blade. I can see Jeffrey, Ria, Darius, Gandhi. Both of you hop up here on the table. I mean the podium. Well, you can hop on the podium via the table if you want to. Both of you have supported the best podcast in the university, amount of $1,000 or more. And therefore I'm very proud to pronounce the KV As Sir Prom Jockey of Madeira and Sir Darius of Venice. And at the round table, as requested, bean and cheese burrito and a cold bottle of Mexican coconut. Along with that, hookers and blow Rent boys and Chardonnay, of course. We also have diet soda and video games if you want. We got beer and blunts. We've got Ruben S. Reuben and rose geishas and sake, vodka, Manila bong hits and bourbon, sparkling side on escorts, Ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and paplum. And as always, the mutton and the mead. And welcome to the roundtable. Both of you, head over to noagendarings.com take a look at those very handsome knight rings. All you got to do is send us your ring size. There's a ring sizing guide on the website. Let us know where to send it to. And it comes accompanied by a certificate of authenticity. And just like Queen Victoria, you get some wax to seal your very important correspondence with your night ring, which is a signet ring. Welcome, gentlemen, to the Round Table. No agenda. Meetup still in full force and in 2026. We start off Thursday, the New Year, New scam North Wake meetup. You know, That's Raleigh, North Carolina. The saints and scholars meet up at 6:00 clock and we look forward to a meetup report from you in January. We have Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Charlotte, North Carolina. Fort Wayne, Indiana. Berg and the Netherlands. Sao Paulo, Brazil. Oh, I want a meetup. Report from Brazil. Alpharetta, Georgia and Oakland, California. You go to the Oakland meetup. You don't go to the Oakland. Oakland meetup, do you? The Oakland.
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I haven't talked to Steve about. What, this one. If that's a Steve meetup.
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It doesn't.
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I think so. We have Violetas.
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You should have Steve send someone to pick you up. I think you deserve a car service at this point.
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I don't want a car.
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Send a limo.
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I hate car services. I rather drive.
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And there it is.
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Stop and pick up a kitten. Yes.
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How? Somehow I get. I get a very fuzzy picture of you picking up a kitten. Noagendameetups.com, where you can find all the information about the meetups I just mentioned and many more as they go off into the future. And you can always submit your own meetups if you want to. That's the beauty of it, is that you can set up your own meetup. It's not like a TedX. We have to have permission or anything. We do recommend you bring two heads of ours on sticks. That's always a good idea. We always recommend something like a raffle or a lottery to send in a donation. Give somebody an executive or associate executive producership. But above all, just go to meet other people who all are part of Gitmo Nation. Meet the children from other lands. You will always get some kind of connection that will bring you protection. These are your first responders in an emergency. Noagendameetups.com it's always fun and easy. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you want be triggered on Hell A. You want to be where everybody feels the same.
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It's like a party.
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Yeah, that's what I meant. It's like a party. All right, everybody. Wow. I have good news. This. This nasal spray that really works. NestPro NESO NESO PRO for allergy relief. That has worked very well throughout the show.
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Yes. You. You didn't mention this on the show. I think you did before the show that you have a cedar flavor. Flavor.
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Well, I have a. I have the. The superflu, which is kind of crossed over into the cedar fever because I was getting better from the superfluous, like three days maybe. Didn't feel too bad, you know, sneezing. But then it just didn't stop. You know, my wife, she won't even come near me. She won't you know, she won't snuggle up to me in bed. She's like, I don't. I don't want every. You have. I don't want it. Which I understand, but it's lonely. It's lonely. All I have is you, John, on the other side of the microphone.
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Yeah.
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This is where you could say something nice but not, you know, something.
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I could have said something nice. I could add a one liner. I don't know. I've been missing a lot of. I must have.
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Have.
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I must have some. Some virus.
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You got the super.
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Because I have missed more than one or two softballs you got.
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And I keep lobbying. You keep lobbing them, and you just.
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Yeah, keep. Keep it up.
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All right, we got John sip of the day coming up and some AI Slop and some not in our end of show mixes. But first we check out what we want to choose for an ISO at the end of show. Do you have AI or they have some real ones in here?
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I have a combo, as usual.
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Okay, well, you want me to go first? I only have two.
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Yeah, of course. You go first. That way I can re. I can. I can relent.
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All their work is fantastic.
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Sounds like A.I. to me.
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No, no, it's not A.I. that's Dr. Richard White. That's. That's a real person. Did you like it, though, or did you think, man, it was okay. That's my second one. I mean, wow. Come on.
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You can't.
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You can't beat A.J. you can't beat A.J.
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That. No.
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Okay, well, you got.
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Okay, I got. I got ISO Genius. Financial geniuses.
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Oh, that's a good. That sounded real. That was kind of good.
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It was real.
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Yeah.
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Okay, let's go with soccer.
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This beats soccer any day.
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No, no, no, no.
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You don't think it beats soccer?
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No, soccer's okay.
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Now here's the one that's because of today's show. I thought this was a thematic one. This is the money shot.
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Wow. Good work. Send these guys some money.
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There you go.
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Everybody send us some money. Or wait for John's tip of the day.
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And sometimes Adam and the rotation. So we're going back to websites. And with the breaking news of the radio aid and capture and kidnapping and extraction or whatever we want to call it, of Maduro, it might be a good time to put this on your list of websites to check out. This is. The website is online newspapers dot com.
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Oh, that sounds good.
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Onlinenewspapers dot com. Every newspaper in the entire world is linked on this site.
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But Are they all behind a paywall?
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No.
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What?
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Well, I mean, if the individual newspapers behind the pair, like the Wall Street Journal. Yeah. There's not much, but most of them aren't and they're worldwide and they. And it tells you if they're in English or what language it is. So you get these English speaking newspapers in different parts of the world and you get all kinds of. This is a very valuable site for you researchers out there, especially you kids in college that want to have a couple. Some, Some references that are a little up, seem obscene, obscure, but you nailed them from going onto this site.
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Onlinenewspapers.com I'm looking at the Dutch newspapers. This is good. This is. Wow. This is. Now, a lot of these are syndicated, so they're owned by one entity, but still, this is. This is quite interesting, huh? Yeah. Who maintains this site? Do they make any money off of it? They got any ads?
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I, I can't. I can't see it making any money. It must be a front for some intel agency that issues themselves. They also use it. But hey, since we got it, you might as well just let the public use it.
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Oh, that's.
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I don't know.
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That's pretty good. By the way, one of our producers sent me a note that OpenAI is testing ads.
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I know they are.
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Yeah. And if you like the ad, you're supposed to shake your phone to send them feedback. I can't wait. It's going to be a hootenanny. There it is, ladies and gentlemen, John's Tip of the Day. Find them all@noagendafund.com or tip of the day.net. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Brunetti. That's right. Thank you, Dana Brunetti, for producing once again. Where would we be without Dana Brunetti? Let's see. Oh, coming up next, I talked about him earlier. Mitch and Archie from Podverse. They'll be podcasting 2.0 that's queued up next for your live Streaming pleasure@noagendastream.com End of show mixes from MVP Martin. JJ slips something in there and Deez laughs to round it out. Yeah, actually, this kind of made me happy. This end of show mixed sequence. So keep the slop coming, everybody. Listen to them all and getmojams.com and we will return on Thursday with more of your media deconstruction. Who knows which country will fall next? We can't wait. We'll be here to unpack it all for you. And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country. Right in the middle of Cedar fever in the morning, everybody, I'm out. Adam Curry.
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And from northern Silicon Valley where it's raining again, I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Don't you worry, rain or shine, we'll be here. Remember us at no agenda donations.com until Thursday. Adios, mofos. Who ee hooey and such.
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From the grand front porch to the Atlantic shore.
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The vacation of a lifetime A welcome from the bureau welcome Nicky Madre boomer the badass generation before all you sissies were born. The truth is getting shiny the truth is getting bold gold we're trading in the fake news for the weight of gold no corporate masters pulling on the strings Just the joy that the producers and the knights all bring JCD is laughing at the brand new light With a smile on his face and his open eyes oh, it's a beautiful day day, beautiful day to watch the great rebranding all the way. Because the best part of the show is. Just stop with the end of show mix. How about that? We stop the end of show.
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Yeah. This would hurt your feelings. It's your you, you do it. You're controlling it.
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You're the producer, the one complaining about it.
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They used to say drink away that.
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Tooth decay propaganda slogans Bring it back.
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With these noise raps guaranteed to slap It's a vibe, vibe, It's a vibe.
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Tell me why are you online?
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You're online all the time Talking points like Project 2025 you're going back do something this time.
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Nah, let's go back.
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I said it's a vibe.
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It's allowed.
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Put it in a Venn diagram.
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Yeah, what a sham.
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Not to mention this show is ending with this. We're not going to make another year.
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Let alone four more.
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This is. We're going down, man. We're playing AI clips, we've got stupid AI art, we got end of show mixes that are just sound formula. AI.
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The best podcast in the universe.
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Mofo Dvorak.
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Wow, good work. Send these guys some money.
Hosted by Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: January 4, 2026
In this episode, Adam and John deconstruct the breaking news of the US-led capture and extraction of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, unpacking the motives, historical context, international reaction, and the media's framing of this significant regime change. The hosts critically analyze the energy and geopolitical factors at play, connect dots between intelligence operations, insider trading, and shifting US foreign policy—what Trump dubs the "Donroe Doctrine". Listeners are treated to the classic No Agenda blend of technical depth, historical background, media critique, skepticism, and wry humor.
John provides an audible deep-dive (03:47-07:59) into Venezuela’s petroleum history:
"We built Venezuela's oil industry with American talent... socialist regime stole it from us... one of the largest thefts of American property."
— President Trump (03:47)
"Under our new national security strategy, American dominance in the Western Hemisphere will never be questioned again."
— President Trump (24:53)
"Looks like we have another Nancy Pelosi on our hands… PolyMarket is a big fat loophole."
— News clip (13:11)
On the Coup:
"We're going to run the country until we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition." — President Trump (03:47; audio)
On Insiders Winning Big:
"What are the odds? ... PolyMarket is a big fat loophole." — PolyMarket clip (13:11)
On US Control:
"The President said, 'we’re running it.' That’s why this question is a problem and goes unanswered in every interview." — John (34:29)
On China’s Retreat:
"It was hilarious to see the Chinese delegation just hours before they capture Maduro. The Chinese like, 'all right, we're out of here.'" — John (10:18)
On Socialism & Protesters:
"Every single person...is white, has a nose ring, has a red beanie on, and is holding a socialism pre-printed sign." — John (54:54)
On Venezuela’s Hyperinflation:
“1.3 million percent inflation of the Bolivar” — John (08:03)
On America First:
"Trump says he gets to decide what America First means." — Media host (26:21)
On US-Centric Geopolitics:
"Regime change, not for democracy, but for energy and for its own sake" — John (25:30)
On Digital Dollarization:
"This might be a great moment to launch the stablecoin gambit...rails are in place." — Adam (16:29)
Episode 1831 is a quintessential No Agenda media deconstruction, giving listeners not just a rundown, but a layered, skeptical analysis of a rapidly shifting geopolitical event—the US “extraction” of Maduro. The hosts pull at the strings of mainstream narratives, question motives, outline who wins and who pays, and highlight the connections often missing in traditional news. The episode is a goldmine for anyone wanting more than soundbites on one of the young year’s most pivotal stories.
For more community notes, producer credits, referenced websites, and value-for-value support:
noagendadonations.com
"Wow. Good work. Send these guys some money."
— End of Show ISO (184:02)