Season 6, Episode 1: Season 6 of the No Cap Podcast kicks off with a masterclass in Opportunity Zone (OZ) equity. Jack and Alex sit down with Jordan Brustein & Andrew Rudy from Ackman-Ziff to explore how they’ve carved out a unique niche in structured finance.

Jordan and Andrew break down the creative evolution of the OZ market, detailing innovative preferred equity structures that solve the 10-year hold challenge for developers. From ground-up developments to post-CO recapitalizations, learn how these capital market experts are resetting the clock on distressed assets and preparing for the next era of "OZ 2.0." Whether you're a developer or an investor, this episode is a must-listen for navigating today's complex financing environment.

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00:00 – Introduction
01:54 – Ackman-Ziff's History and Focus on Structured Finance
03:21 – Carving a Niche in the Opportunity Zone Space
04:35 – Structuring Preferred Equity for a 10-Year Hold
08:55 – Financing Ground-Up Development with OZ Pref
14:52 – The Math: 10-Year Outlook and Positive Leverage
18:05 – Opportunity Zone Fundamentals and Tax Benefits
21:28 – Strategic Recaps: Injecting New OZ Equity Post-CO
25:13 – Navigating Qualified Opportunity Zone Compliance
30:10 – OZ 2.0: Future Outlook and Global Gain Trends
37:21 – Case Study: $200M Recapitalization in Washington D.C.
48:41 – The Cycle of Common Equity vs. Private Credit

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