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Baldoni's BIG Court Win! Savannah Announces Her TODAY Show Return! And NEW MomTok Cheating Scandal!
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Well, well, well. Baldoni is experiencing a bunch of court wins this week. He just made a major thing slam dunk in his case against Stephanie Jones and a win in his case against Blake Lively as we get ready for trial coming up in May. Plus Savannah Guthrie. We got part three of her exclusive sit down with Hoda Kotb and she is officially announced she will be returning to the Today show next month in April. Plus Mom Talk we got a new cheating scandal. Lots to get into. I hope you're ready for it. Let's dive in. This is no filter with Zach Peter your go to source for all the latest pop culture and reality TVT Serve fresh all week long. Now let's dive in. Good morning guys. Happy Friday. Shout out to Christina and Lara in the live chat. What's going on everybody? I hope you guys have had a great week. I've got some fun weekend plans. I'm going to be spending the weekend with my family so so hopefully you guys are doing something fun. Hopefully you're living life. Repro Amanda said, I saw this joke on a post it note the other day with the picture of a woman saying, sometimes it takes me a full eight hours to get nothing done. Isn't that the damn truth? I know that's right. Western burb. Kristen says, tell me some good news, please. We do have good news. I think we have lots of good news. Actually. I don't feel like there's any bad news today. I will say, you know, that it's a good indicator of. Of good news about Justin Baldoni. When the Blake bots come out for blood in the last like 24 hours, Blake must have like, had her. Her digital marketing team amp up. Or maybe it's Ryan Reynolds. Maybe it's maximum effort. I don't know. I'm not making allegations against anybody. But when the. The chatter in the mentions kind of has the same sentiment and they all seem to be calling me misogynist right now. So I just find that a little interesting that when things tend to go good for Baldoni, the Blakebots just seemingly come out of nowhere. And when I tell you they are in it today, they are screenshotting here. Let's just take a little peek. That way you can see that I'm not lying about this. It's a little sus to me, right? When you come up in here and you see that. Everybody, look at this one. Josephine. Is Josephine real or is she a bi? Oh, she's a she. Her. Got it. Thank you. Any. Of course. Thank you. Look. Oh, she's going off. Look at. Here we go. Oh. Cause I said I'm not a bot. I genuinely have disdain for chaperone. And look at. She took time out of her day to screenshot. This is from 1425. She's either been banking this or she did a search or something. But this is from over a year ago. And I said Blake Lively went from. I said Blake Lively straight went from the actress from Gossip Girl to Amber heard 2.0 facts. That's a banger right there. No wonder it got 82,000 views. That is a banger. Blake really came to finish what Amber heard, started to completely abolish the MeToo movement. I don't know how that's misogynist, but another banger, right? Look at these. This is like the best of Taylor Swift exposed the truth about her fallout with Scooter Braun and her masters. Who's the real villain? I mean, what is this? My best highlights reel. Thank you, Josephine. Dropping all the Bangers. Oh, she's still going. You can tell. Oh, these are all just her tweets. Sorry, I thought this was my feed. But yeah, they're going on today. Calling me a misogynist. And what a time. Look at. There's Laura. Shout out Laura. Guys, give Laura. Give Laura a follow back. Booyah. Booyah. Lara in the live chat. So you know, you, you know, you know Blake's scared when she sends the bots out to come and get you. They're like, ooh, we gonna get ya. Yeah. What did you think of the Hannah Montana reunion? Octavia I loved, except for Chaperone being in it. I thought that because, you know, me being such a misogynist, I love me some Hannah Montana. I thought Miley did great. I actually, I mean, I wish Alex Cooper would have pushed a little more. When we got the reveal that Miley dated Dylan Sprouse, I was like, what? What? Hannah Montana dated Zach and Cody, but I thought it was really sweet. I loved the moments with her mom. I loved the moments with Billy Ray when he came out. When they did the script read. I thought that was really sweet. I loved her performances. It's the climb. So good. Her new song, what was it for you? That one was. Was so sweet. When she reflects on like younger you. I hope I wanted them to drop that like as like a new single. I was like, give me that banger. You know, Hannah Montana was great with exception for the chapel roan, which just fel random. We needed more of the cast. Right. I loved the Selena. The Selena Gomez was a nice tie in for Hannah Montana 20 year anniversary because Selena Gomez is a Disney girly. She was on Wizards of Waverly Place, so that made sense. Chaperone is not a Disney girly. She's a, you know, a Nepo baby or she comes from a rich family and she was playing guitar on the side of Santa Monica Boulevard. So, you know, I liked flowers. Flowers I thought was good. I can buy myself flowers Rhyme my name in the sand or was you wouldn't blink blink 182 version. I can buy myself flowers Write my name in the sand. So loved the the 20 year anniversary. I wish it was longer. Very grateful to Alex Cooper. I wish she would have pressed a little harder on some of the questions. But overall I thought it was good. I loved no Osiris, the surprise cameo from Noah Cyrus at the very end. Banger. Another one. Thank you. So I loved it. We need a Lizzie McGuire one. Donna Bowling says Zach. OMG, you kill me. Why? Why I didn't mean to kill you. I'm not a misogynist. Sorry. Why did I. Oh, okay. What? Should we talk? Should we talk? Beldoni? Should we talk? Nancy? Penny Ramsey? Oh, we do have a little. Speaking of Chappelle Roan. Chappelle Rowan. Her bodyguard or not her bodyguard. Her. Her imitation bodyguard. Pascal, he apparently was not. It's been confirmed by the Daily Mail that Pascal was not there on behalf of Chappelle Rowan, but she. He was there on behalf of Sabrina Carpenter, who I love, by the way. Sabrina Carpenter, also a Disney girly. We should have had Sabrina Carpenter over Chaperone. Chaffalron is an insufferable, like fart that you suck on and you're like, ugh. Why do ugh? Like, it's just. There's nothing good about Chaperone. Her music is good, but her and her personality, all the montages that we're seeing of all the time she's been a wicked. No wonder why all the Blake bots are coming out to defend Chaperone. They just love insufferable women. But a non insufferable woman is Sabrina Carpenter. We love Sabrina Carpenter. So apparently Pascal was hired by Lollapalooza and both Sabrina Carpenter and Chapel Ron were performing at Lollapalooza in Brazil. And so that's, I guess, how Pascal got involved in this. I don't know why he got involved or why it was any of his business. It doesn't even seem like Sabrina Carpenter was there. Or maybe she was there, but she was incognito. Which tells you if the 11 year old little girl is going to see Chaperone and completely bypasses Sabrina Carpenter, it's probably because Sabrina Carpenter was discreetly trying to enjoy her meal and not be bothered. So yeah, I mean, is Pascal the real, you know, villain in all of this? Maybe. But again, why would he even bother to insert himself into something that did not concern him? Okay, and how often does stuff like this happen? How many 11 year old girls are getting threatened by security because they're apparently bigger threats to the pop stars? I just feel like this is a big mess for Pascal. I hope he learned his lesson. I hope he knows to never do this again. Pascal. But I mean, I guess we're sorry to Chaperone, but like, not really because she's still insufferable and there's no. And there's plenty of evidence of her poor behavior towards fans and photographers in the past. So it's not really shocking that she's capable of this. But I saw people defending her, and they're just like, oh, a woman with boundaries. Okay, first of all, shut up. Okay? Second of all, it's not. I've tried to make this argument a bunch of times, but people, you know, like to sit on their fat asses in their basements rubbing one out while they're eating their Cheetos, and they want to come up in the mentions and talk shit. But anyway, boundaries. Let's be very clear. Boundaries are for you. They're not rules for other people. I have no issue with a woman having boundaries. I have no issue with a man having boundaries. I'm sure you have a double standard. I'm sure women are allowed to have boundaries, but not men. I like to keep the standard fair and straight up, okay? So I have no problem with a woman having boundaries. But boundaries are for you. So if chaperone's boundaries or that she doesn't like people approaching her, then she needs to abide by those boundaries and march up to her room or go somewhere or do what Sabrina Carpenter did and keep it discreet. Okay? Zach said shut the up with your cheetahs. Yeah, they're the spicy hot cheetah. Oh, not a spicy. Not a Flamin Hots kind of girl, then. Look, and their keyboards are full of little Flamin Hot crumbs. You know? It is. You know, and then they touch things and they leave their red fingerprints everywhere. Not today. Take your takis out of my face. But anyway, boundaries are for you. Okay? So chaperone could respect her boundaries by not inserting herself into a public space where she's likely to be recognized. You know? So that's. That's the issue. I have no problem with the woman having boundaries, but the boundaries are not rules for you to police other people around you. Okay? If I have boundaries, then those are standards that I have to uphold for myself, right? So if I'm uncomfortable in a certain setting that I know is going to be a challenging setting for me to be in, then I can either take measures as a precaution for myself so that I'm not exposed to something that makes me uncomfortable. Even though we have to be. We have to get past this. Like, I can never be uncomfortable, or else it's a trigger and it's my trauma. Go fucking cry in a corner, okay? Stop with your safe spaces and your trauma and your triggers and all your shit, because that's stuff that you need to work out with your therapist or with your Jesus or whoever you need to work that out with. Stop Making your triggers and your trauma and your B.S. everybody else's problems, okay? I have respect for people that have respect for themselves. And part of having respect for yourself is taking responsibility for your life and your actions and the settings around you. Okay? So again, I repeat, I don't have an issue with Chapel Ron having boundaries. I have an issue with her being mean to her fans. I have an issue with her being rude to the public. I have an issue with the way that she talks to people. That is my issue with Chappelle Rowan. She does have some bangers, though. I will give it that. Pink Pony Club. I want to keep on dancing in the Pink Pony Club. Who are we yelling at today? The Chapel Roan fans. The Blake Life. The Blake Bots. Chapel Ron, the one hit wonder, acting like she's Madonna. That's the thing. You have to have a little humility. When you're Madonna, you can be Madonna. When you're Mariah, you can be Mariah. When you're Cher, you can be Cher. Right? And people will still love you for being a diva. Cher can smack you in the face and people will still love it. Chaperone has not reached that level of icon yet. And at this point, she likely never will. And she's going to be, you know, at a subway, singing on the corner, but at least she's got her boundaries intact. Girl, please. Okay, that's enough of Chappelle Roan. Okay? Let's get into the Justin Baldoni and then the Nancy Benet Ramsey and then the mom talk drama, because there's so much to get into. I feel like we are being fed. We are at the home hometown buffet. Not even the hometown buffet. We're at, like, at a Vegas buffet, right? One of the. The nice, fancy Vegas buffets. And we're gonna get. We're gonna be fed today. Okay, but before we do that, you know, we gotta give some lure in the club to this week's sponsor because, you know, we love us some factor meals because factor makes life easy. Am I right? Somewhere between the warm summer weekend and realizing short season is getting close, even eating well feels stops feeling optional. Right? Well, factor is how I stopped letting a busy schedule be my excuse. Fully prepared meals designed by dietitians and crafted by chefs, ready in two minutes. No planning, no cooking. 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All right, let's talk about Baldoni Beltoni. Let's get it, get it, get it. Because trial is Lumen. Trial is coming. Here we go. So big wins for Baldoni this week and also a big date on the books and that is April 2nd. So keep that in mind because that's going to be an important day because we have an important hearing. Say what? So Justin Baldoni's team got granted a one week extension for their pre trial deadlines. We know trial is coming up on May 18th, May 19th. I think it's 18th that week. And so with trial coming up in May, they have all their pre trial preparations, right? So they have to tell the judge, okay, this is the evidence that we're bringing. These are the witnesses that we're planning on bringing to the table. They're gearing up for trial. They have the next several weeks to do so. Right. We already got through discovery, we already got through a bunch of the other phases that lead up to it. We went through settlement negotiations, all that stuff. And now here we are prepping for trial. But there are still some items that are outstanding, so. Such as Justin Baldoni's motion to dismiss. So there are a lot of motions that they need the judge to finally answer for now that the criminal trials that he was working on this month, now that those seem to have subsided, now Judge Lyman can fully focus on Lively and Baldoni's cases. Okay, but so Lively's team is already back to playing stupid games yet again. So they just jumped a third thousand. One thousand. One thousand new documents as potential exhibits that they would like to use in court at trial. A thousand. Okay, 1,000 new exhibits. How they even came up with thousand? Like, in what world would you ever have the time to be able to present the jury with a thousand new exhibits during trial? Did you not already have enough exhibits that you submitted during discovery? Like, that's the crazy part, is like, did you not already find. You said you had strong mountains of evidence. Strong evidence. You should already have that then, right? Not only that, but they claim to have 40. 40 witnesses that they would like to utilize at trial as well. 40. And that's just for Blake to be able to defend her side, not including Baldoni's team or Baldoni's side of exhibits or witnesses. This is just from Blake's side side. Now, this is obviously one of two things, right? One, it's a PR trick to make it seem like she has evidence. And it's just. It's overwhelming. And the Blake bots are going to be like right there with their Cheeto dusted fingers. They're like, oh, my God, I love it. Yeah, she got all the evidence. And I've already seen that more with MJ on threads and more with MJ's. Like, yes. Yeah, like, come in what world? Like, get with knock on the coconut on your head, get out of the coconut tree and actually think about this. In what world is it plausible that you can present and have the jury see and digest a thousand extra exhibits and get through 40 witnesses without overburdening the court? System without pissing off the jury. I hope that they get to bring all this shit in there so the jury can sit there and be like, oh, my gosh, this is insufferable, right? I mean, the fact that people are even defending this behavior, like it was wild. And people were defending the Van Zan subpoena drama, right? Which is gonna come to light at some point in court. But I mean, my gosh, 40 people that are gonna testify. And like, this is where I think it's all about the pr. Because then you can be like, look at. There are 40 people that are gonna prove her claims. There are a thousand new documents. Now, to my understanding, I think a lot of these new exhibits are just more pieces of content and more negative stories that they're gonna try to use to prove a smear campaign. So this could just be for the optics, or two, it could also be to overburden the Wayfarer parties so that they're not fully prepared for the trial, right? Because if you're not sure which of the 1,000 exhibits will actually be beneficial or used at trial, then how can you properly defend against all 1,000 exhibits? So now this is where the Blake bots would be like, oh, it's such a smart strategy. It's such a smart strategy. What they have to. They have to prepare 40 witnesses to cross examine. That's a lot of witnesses to prepare for, right? It's a game, It's a tactic. It shows that they're scared. If you have such strong and compelling evidence, this should be a slam dunk for you. You shouldn't need to play these games, right? But of course, the Blakebot's like, oh, it's so smart. She's so brilliant. Like, oh, no, she's a fucking idiot that doesn't have a strong enough case. So she has to play these games in order to screw with the other side and hopefully try to manipulate the game. So, sure, you may call it strategy, but just because you're smart and strategic does not mean you have a strong enough case to prove it with evidence. It just means you have some good attorneys that know what loopholes to jump through for you. So insufferable. But now the judge has set a new hearing for April 2nd. We're assuming that this will be the big one, right? Likely to hear about the Wayfarers motion to dismiss. Hopefully we get some answers. It could happen before April 2nd. But we're assuming that at this April, or at least by this April 2nd hearing is when we'll have some big Decisions that have been made. It may even be a hearing for the fees that Blake Lively is looking to pursue. Not entirely clear what we will get at this hearing or what will happen between now and that hearing, but being that it's six weeks ahead of trial, I would imagine we're going to get some good rulings in it. Right? Furthermore, Blake is so fierce. There we go. Debbie says, I just made a meme of those fans and the Cheeto dust all over the keyboard. Commenting on Twitter with Chapel, Ronan Lively posters on the wall. Blake lives matter. Blake lives matter. Blake lives matter. She's not smart. She's a dingbag who wears expensive clothes. Well, I mean, her lawyers are smart. They're the ones that are playing these games on her behalf. Okay? Now, when it comes to the Wayfarer party's case against Jones Works, this is the Wayfarer. This isn't. I don't think it's Baldoni, personally. I think it's Wayfair on behalf of the parties. They have a case against Jones Work and Stephanie Jones. Jones Work was the PR company that they hired, which was head by Stephanie Jones, who was Beldonian, Wayfair's former publicist. Now, if you remember, they have that whole other lawsuit that's pending, right? There are multiple lawsuits going on. There's Blake versus Beldoni. There's Wayfair or Wayfair versus Blake. There's Wayfair versus Jones work and Stephanie Jones. There's also Jennifer Abel versus Stephanie Jones. So there are multiple lawsuits within this big legal battle, right? So when it comes to Beldoni versus his former publicist, and she's a big catalyst, in my opinion, to everything that we've seen happen with Blake Lively. He seems to have won there, at least with the. With the. His defamation claims against Stephanie Jones. Those appear to be moving forward, or actually not appear to be. Those are moving forward. So Stephanie Jones is who we all assume was the one that seems spearheaded this drama with Blake Lively. She's the one that turned over all of the text messages and presumably is the one that convinced and sold Blake Lively on this idea of a smear campaign. So now the Wayfarer parties are arguing because she delivered that information to Blake and Blake Lively's publicist, Leslie Sloan, that is considered defamation. That is defamatory. They also breached the violation that we had with them to uphold our. Based off of the contract that Wayfair and Jones Work had. There are confidentiality protections. There are reputational protections, yada, yada, yada. But so the Judge is allowing their case against Stephanie did dismiss a couple of their claims, but he did allow the bulk of it. The main piece, I think is the defamation piece that will be moving forward. So the judge agreed that there's enough there to see this play out at trial. So we will be seeing Wayfarers defamation claims against Stephanie Jones that will be moving forward in a trial that likely won't be the May trial that we're seeing on May 18th. I don't believe that will be part of it. I believe this is separate. So in a statement, Wayfair is responding to this news by saying, we're pleased that the court's decision to deny Stephanie Jones's attempt to dismiss Wayfair's lawsuit and to allow our core claims, including defamation and bad faith conduct, to move forward as alleged in Wayfair's counterclaims. After being notified that her contract would be terminated, Stephanie Jones of Jones work PR turned against her longtime client, sharing internal communications, pushing false allegations that Justin Baldoni and the Wayfarer parties orchestrated a so called smear campaign. The court rejected her efforts to dismiss these claims, allowing them to proceed as serious allegations that deserve to be examined on the facts, including that she acted in bad faith by misusing internal information and communications. This is not a minor dispute, period. Brian Friedman, period. So, yeah, not looking good for Stephanie Jones. I think if anybody, she's probably the one that's going to be hurt the most because she, I think, was very instrumental in all of this blowing up. I would imagine that even Blake Lively's team is pissed at Stephanie Jones. We'll see how this plays out though. We'll see when we have a trial date set, if there isn't one already. But yeah, we also have Jennifer Abel's case against Stephanie Jones not looking good for Stephanie Jones at all. Now Blake in the New York Times, they were protected when it came to defamation because Blake had her litigation privileges. And then obviously the New York Times has their press privileges. So those two things alone were why the defamation case was dismissed against them from Justin Baldoni. But now Stephanie Jones, she doesn't have those same protections. She doesn't have a litigation protection, she doesn't have a me too protection, nor does she have any press privileges. Therefore, she's likely going to have to face the consequences of her actions. So she seems to be the root of the entire dispute here. So thank you, Stephanie Jones, because what a mess this has become. Elsie Jack says Stephanie Fafo. Fafo is right. I hope trial is televised. It is not televised. Being that this is a. A federal case out in the southern district of New York, this will not be televised. So unfortunately, we will not be seeing this play out. Okay, moving on to Nancy Benet Ramsey. So we got today part three of Savannah Guthrie's exclusive sit down interview with Hoda Copy. Oh, I know you've just been on the edge of your seat waiting for this three part interview. Yesterday we got part one and part two. Today we got part three. And then I believe tonight we have the Dateline special. So part three, I'm going to say, gave us less than part two. Just going to be honest. Part three. Savannah talks a lot about her faith. We don't really have any answers. And then surprise. As I predicted, they have announced that Savannah will be returning to the Today show on April 6. So nearly two months after her mother went missing, she is back at the Today show desk. She will be sitting front and center hosting the news yet again. I called it. I predicted a few weeks ago that she would have an exclusive one on one sit down with Hoda Kotb. Here we are. Got it. I didn't realize there's going to be three parts over two days. Interesting choice, but okay. Also, if you're going to give us three parts over the course of two days, you better give us something. They gave us absolutely nothing. But I predicted that this interview would end with an official date. And here we are, an official date. And I think I even said within the next week or within the next month is when she would likely return. And here we are, she's back April 6, which is about a month or. No, not a month. What about less than two weeks from now? Like this. Part three of the interview did not need to be dragged out until Friday. This could have been an email. This should have been a text message. It could have been an Instagram story. We didn't even need it up for more than 24 hours. Right? Like, what was the point of this? If anything, this was really just a soft launch for Savannah to return to the Today show because they didn't tell us anything. They didn't provide any new details. There was nothing that could help the public find your missing mother if we take emotion out of it. Because I feel like that's what this was. This was solely a. An interview to appeal to our emotions, to make us feel badly for Savannah. It was totally reputational. Right. To prepare us to feel bad for her so that when she returned to the Today show, we wouldn't have any questions. We would just feel sympathy and it's not that I don't feel sympathy, because more than one thing can be true at once. I can feel badly for the family going through this, while also at the same time, have some serious questions for the family. And if anything, this interview did not dispute the feelings or concerns or questions that I have. It was actually the opposite, but by how hard she deflected from those very big, serious questions while also pointing the finger at the public for their speculation regarding the family. So it didn't tell us anything. We didn't get any new details. If we look at it solely from a logical viewpoint, if we look at this solely objectively, this did nothing but show you that Savannah is sad, and we shouldn't judge her when she returns to work. I don't want to judge her. I believe that she's sad. I believe that she's grieving. But I don't want to judge you. But you're not giving me anything that makes me trust you. That's the issue. Right? And she's somebody that has been in the media for a very long time. She knows how these things work. She knows how public speculation works. She knows how criminal investigations work, especially when they're widely publicized to the degree of her mother's disappearance. Right. And she's had this resource that she's been able to utilize, and she waits over 50 days to finally be able to utilize this, and then it does nothing to help the public help find her mother. All it does is show us that she's grieving. I mean, I feel badly that she's grieving. I hate that she's grieving. I hate that she doesn't have answers. But if you really want us to find answers for you or you want the public to support you in some way, you kind of have to give the public something, especially since investigators have got nothing. Right? There's no suspect. There's no arrest. There's no body. There's no clear idea of what even happened that night. So you waited 50 days, and you finally call in this card, and now it's just, what, a launching pad to help you return back to work. I don't want to sound like I don't have empathy. I don't want to sound like an asshole, but when we remove the emotion from it, and I feel like this interview was specifically designed to manipulate us and to play to our emotions. When we take emotion out of it, it makes no sense. Sense. Her biggest issue that they bring up in this interview with Hoda and. And. And Savannah, which, by the way, Hoda asks no follow up questions, doesn't push on anything. Right? There's Savannah says, oh, we believe that at least 2 of the ransom notes are real. And Hoda's like, oh, as she pretends to fake cry, which is so obvious that she's performing in this interview. Like, I don't believe Hoda's tears. And to be fair to Hoda's credit and to give her the benefit of the doubt, I, Hoda is somebody that has been in morning fluff news, right? Daytime morning news. You know, it's been very light, it's very surface, it's very, you know, it's not in depth, deep, you know, Diane Sawyer style interviews. Right. It's not a Barbara Walter, sit down. So understandably, you know, Hoda just doesn't hurt whether she has that skill set or not. I'm sure she does, but she just hasn't utilized that. And then you also factor in, Hoda is like, her job in this interview was to be to give Savannah a softball interview. Because again, I believe the intention of this interview was to play to our emotions, to manipulate our emotions into feeling bad for Savannah and use it as a launching pad to make it okay and so that we don't judge her for returning to the Today show. But the biggest issue that they bring up. Oh, but like I was saying with the two, when Savannah mentions the two ransom notes and she's like, we believe that at least 2 of the ransom notes are real. Okay, great. That was a perfect opportunity for Hoda to be like, okay, why? What about those ransom notes made the others different? How can we trust that those ransom notes were real and the others were not? Or what indicators? You don't have to give us the exact details, but like, if you're going to do the interview, then do the interview. That was a perfect follow up question to be like, well, what? Like, it was an easy question, an easy follow up to be like, what made those. And it doesn't incriminate you in any way. What made those two ransom letters stand out in comparison to the rest of the. And then, I mean, if we really wanted to hit her with the juggernaut, the banger question to follow up that one to is, well, if you believe that those two ransom notes, then you gave us indications as to why you think those are real. Well, because now you think that those are real and you've explained to us why you think those are real. Why didn't you ever pay them a banger follow up? Like, come on, these are follow up Questions that should have been asked if you're going to do this interview. Because, again, I question now, the intention of the interview, was it to keep your mother's face alive? Was it to help solve the case? Was it to drive information to the FBI? Or was it just a launching pad so that we don't judge you when you return to the Today show? And then if that's your motive. I'm questioning that motive. Because you could have utilized this resource very early on. Never did. And now we're just using it to get back to work. And I don't like that, because that feels like you're playing with the public. That feels like you're playing with us, who were invested and who wanted to bring your mother home. And again, their biggest issue is public speculation about her family. Yet she answers not a single question to dispel any of that speculation. It's very easy. Be like, we've cooperated with authorities. We turned over our cell phones. We each took a polygraph. We did this, this and that. And, you know, we have faith that they will find who did this. You don't need to give us the specifics. You don't need to tell us what Annie said in her polygraph or what was asked of her specifically. But even those details alone, okay, yes, we turned over our alibi. They were able to confirm our alibi with video evidence, with GPS evidence, with something. Right? But for whatever reason, nobody, including Sheriff Nanos, wants to disclose how the family was cleared at all. And then you go into question his interview where he said that nobody had been cleared, and then less than 24 hours, he unilaterally makes a statement that felt like he was pressured to make that statement. From who and why, we still don't know. But if you're going to keep the public in a chokehold to try and find your mother, then you can't be lying to us. You can't be hiding things from us, and you can't be just praying that this story goes away just because you don't want to answer some of these questions. If you want public speculation to stop, the only way you stop public speculation is to either either one, stop involving the public or two, give the public answers. If you want them to stop thinking about the family, then give us the reasons why it's not the family. Other than just what? Trust me, bro, we didn't do it. Believe us. And stop being so cruel. When you throw out terms like, it's cruel to think of the family, it is cruel to think of the Family. But when you take emotion out of it and you focus on this logically and objectively, statistically, it's somebody close to the subject. With the pattern of crimes like this, it's somebody close to the subject. Which tells me, I believe the family may have more information that they're not leading on. Why? I don't know. But the fact that we're what, 54. Yeah. 54 days into this now and we still don't have a single answer, and the family's refusing to answer any questions, but they want to hijack our airwaves with the three parts two day special. Nah, I'm not buying it. She gives no insight. She gives no details into how or why her family isn't involved. It's just a trust me, bro. And then Nanos wants to play up this whole, Nancy's alive out there somewhere. Savannah's not even angry or upset with Nanos or the investigators. There's, you know, show us that real emotion that's relatable, that gets the public back on your side. Are you angry at this investigation? Your mother is saying, still missing. That is relatable. People feel the outrage with you. Those people that were locked in and invested and trying to find Nancy, they would be. They are outraged for you, but you're not even outraged. How do you expect the public to still want to be on your side and to still want to help you when you can't even come across relatable in any way? And granted, that's a very high bar for us to be setting for Savannah. Right. However you factor in. Savannah has been on television for a very long time. She's been in this world for a very long time. She knows how these things work. And again, this interview felt like it was just meant to play on our emotions and to manipulate us into forgiving her for hijacking the conversation for the last two months. You know, like, are you angry? Where is your mother is missing. We, like, we would. We would ride for you at dawn to try and help find her. But you're not telling us something. You're not telling us a lot of things. You're hiding things from us. And that's where the public loses trust in you. Right? That's where they lose that faith because you're giving us a whole lot of nothing. But yet you're also like, but please, if you have any information, look back to January 11th. Why? What's relevant about January 11th? What? And she's like, just look into your memory. Did you see somebody act strange? Has somebody Acted strange for the last two months. Give us something. How does a lady just vanish? Great question. How does a lady just vanish? Where is the lady? What happened to Nancy Guthrie? If you're going to do a sit down interview, that's three parts that you lock us into for two whole days. You better be willing to give some answers. Otherwise, don't do the interview at all. But why does she have to? Because she's planning on coming back to the Today show. We have to get people ready. We have to get people conditioned and seasoned to accept her and to still feel sorry for her, you know, but they gave us nothing, literally nothing, while still expecting the public to help the investigation by turning, turning over helpful information when we don't even know what's helpful and what's not. Because logically, it kind of sounds like it would have to be somebody close to the subject. It would have to be somebody close to Nancy that was involved. But if you're telling us no, don't know, that's not helpful, why help us figure it out some other way. Okay, where, what other way? What directions are you looking? And you've had two months to investigate this. What theories do you have? I don't buy this random old lady snatcher. And it sounds like there's just one. According to Savannah, this random one old person that came and took her mother. And, and we don't know why, you know, and we're just going to pray that one day the old lady snatcher just wakes up and has a heart and is like, you know what? I feel bad. My conscience is clocked in and now I'm going to return. Caitlin says Savannah's in deep denial. I give it that. I, I, I will give her that. It may be denial, but at some point, when do you wake up, leave the denial behind and be like, I'm serious about finding my mother. How do we figure this out? Is it by calling out nanos? Is it by hiring a private investigator? Is it by, you know, they never paid the ransom. They believe that those two ransom letters that they got were real. Never followed up, never. Like it just made zero sense. And part three was all about her faith. And no knocking to her faith. Listen, I wear my, my cross every single day. I have no, nothing to knock about her faith. But also, as a man of faith myself, it's hard for me to trust you when it feels like you're not being honest with us. You know, Mimir says ever since Nancy went missing, I've been calling my 83 year old mom a lot. She finally snapped and told me to back off. That's funny. But, like, even when. When Savannah comes to the defense of Annie and Tommy. Because he's not Tommaso. He's Tommy. Even when she comes to the defense of Annie and Tommy, she's like, they took such good care of her. Did they? Because the lady lived in a giant home all by herself. And Savannah also said that on a good day, Nancy could walk to the. To the mailbox. On a good day, Nancy was capable of walking to the mailbox on her own. That was on a good day. Okay, well, if that's the case, then why did Annie make Nancy Uber to her house that night? That doesn't make sense. If she's really that feeble and she can barely even walk to the mailbox, then who's driving her to her church friends every Sunday? How did she get. Why is she Ubering to Annie's house? Why is she not living with Annie? Why didn't Annie and Tommy move in with Nancy? Okay, maybe she wanted her independence. You know, she loves Destiny's Child, and she's an independent woman. The shoes on my feet, I bought them. Right. Okay, cool. Got it. Why not pay for the ring footage? Why not hire a caretaker? Like, there are so many what ifs and whys. And granted, yes, it is easier for us to judge after the fact, but don't come on national television. Be like, they took such good care of her when it's like, but then how did she slip away? You had no subscription footage. I'm assuming Nancy didn't drive because on a good day, she could walk to the mailbox. But yet we're making her Uber everywhere. It just. Nancy did Zoom church. Yes and no. So, yes, she did Zoom Church, but she didn't do Zoom from her house. A group of her church friends would get together, and they would do Zoom Church from one of the friends houses, so they would have their own little gathering. She didn't go into the actual church, but she would go to her friend's house, and that's where they would all watch the Zoom church together. Janice says whoever paid Nancy's bills would know about the cameras, but, like, that's a very easy thing to lock in, right? What about the elder abuse card? Another great, great question that we never got a follow up to. Redondo beach says, at least make sure your mom's doors are closed at night. Again, Tommasa or Tommy is the one that dropped off Nancy, and yet they're saying that she can barely walk to the mailbox. On a good day, this must have been a real good day. This was one of the. The best days that Nancy ever had because not only did she walk to the Uber, get in the Uber by herself, get out of the Uber, go to Annie's house, but then she came home, and she didn't even need help getting in the house. They watched her walk into the driveway. Nobody helped her. But yet, on a good day, she could walk to the mailbox. So this must have been the best day of her life then, if she was able to Uber all around town and walk into the garage all by her little old self. So why didn't Cameron install military grade camera? I mean, listen, I'm pretty. That's a little bit of a stretch, right? I'm. As long as there are cameras and your mom has somebody nearby, like you don't need military grade cameras, right? When you don't think that there's a threat. She's in a, you know, a nice community. She knows her neighbors presumably, you know, seemingly safe. So. I don't know, but. Oh, yeah, Trish said also the garage door is only open for two minutes. Yeah, Zach, according to a CVS employee, she had a hard. She had a part time caregiver. Great. Where's the caregiver? Well, yeah, there were. Yes and no. We don't know that for certain, but that was. I remember that report. That was a while ago. This is where we have to have a little discernment with some of that information, too. There was an employee that does remember that there was somebody that they saw with Nancy and they believed it was the caregiver. We don't know that for certain. We don't know that. It could have been Annie. It could have been Tommy. So, yeah. Didn't someone say that Annie was the caregiver? I think that's. Again, all questions we don't have answers to 54 days later. But please, public, still help us find our missing mom, even though we don't want to give you anything to help lead you in any direction. I think since Annie was so close, she didn't need a caretaker. That's what I thought. That the people who believed Nancy may have had a caregiver may have gotten that confused with Annie. And maybe Annie was the caregiver, but I don't know. But, you know, we can all forget about it now because Savannah's returning to the Today Show April 6th. Mark your DVR. Okay, let's move on to the mom talk. Drama that is unfolded. So Jesse and Chase what is this? Oh, how sweet. Jesse and Chase from Secret Lives of Mormon Wife. So obviously there's all this drama with Taylor Frankie Paul. Outside of Taylor Frankie Paul, there is Jesse Draper, who her husband Jordan just filed for divorce. He filed for restraining order. He lost the temporary restraining order. The judge denied it. And Jesse just did call her daddy. We talked about that the other day, but. So Jesse apparently was hanging out with Miranda, one of the other cast members, her ex husband slash baby daddy. So, okay, doesn't seem that fishy, right? They all kind of hang out together, but. So apparently Jesse also made out or kissed Chase. Super suspicious. That's a report that came out in Dumois. Okay, cool. Got it. Well, well, Janelle. So now it appears it was confirmed. So that report came out on Dumas and then Miranda went on her Instagram story and then posted a photo with flowers. And the flowers had a card. And the card said, I completely understand you being upset with me, but wanted to send you a little something to let you know I'm thinking about you and I am so, so sorry, Jesse. So Miranda posts these flowers and this card after this Dumois post comes out about Jesse making out with Chase. Okay. Yeah. And so Miranda then posts this Instagram story, shares the card, seems to be upset with Jesse because obviously Chase is Miranda's ex husband slash baby daddy. He's still in the group. He's still kind of around. He's a cutie. I actually think he's really cute. But so then Miranda further continued that by. By adding, unfortunately, I am familiar with this territory. I knew that there had been some communication between Chase and Jesse, but not to what extent. Then Chase was up front and told me that they were talking and that they kissed. Jesse reached out only after she knew Chase had told me something was going on with them. And today at the same time, a rumor started spreading online that something was going on with Chase and Jesse. I received apology flowers from Jesse. What I never want to get misconstrued is that there is not any emotional attachment to Chase. He is my co parent. Although I do feel disrespected by Chase, I feel slighted by my friend. Chase and I are no longer partners and while I have high expectations of him as a co parent, I also hold my friends to a high standard and believe in girl code. With everything going on and all the chaos, I am just focusing on my kids. As unfortunate as the film break is, and then also this betrayal, I'm going to try and focus on my kids and reground Myself, I am processing it and moving forward. That was published on Entertainment Tonight from Miranda. Jordan also commented on. On it, he says, looks like she can't even be faithful or loyal, even in a friendship. Too bad. So, Jordan, nobody asked you. Shut up. Like, you're. You're still on everybody's shit list. Like, let's not. Okay? Do we care? Like, do. Do we care? I feel like this feels partially manufactured, but also it doesn't make Jesse look good. When she was married to Jordan, and then she was over there making out with Marciano, and then now here she is with Chase, and so I'm just like, it doesn't look good. Like, all of it just kind of looks messy. And it makes Jesse look messy. It makes Jesse look boy crazy. So I get why Miranda would feel disrespected because Jesse's her friend, and then Chase is her ex. So the fact that they're doing this behind their back, not. Not very cool. But I don't know. Partially, it feels a little manufactured. But then I'm also like, well, but these girls don't know how to not live their life fully out for the cameras, right? To put it all on display. On display each and every day. Every day. Every day. So. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But that's where we at. Where we at, where we at. I'd rather watch that Teen Mom BS and discuss that. I mean, they are kind of like the nude, the new Teen mom, right? But I don't know. I think the show might be done because, like, if it's still on pause or maybe they're all doing this to try and get cameras back up and rolling again soon, but not focus on the Taylor stuff because there's so much other drama happening. I don't know. I don't know. Nobody knows. But that's where we at. That's what it do, boo. That's where we at. Well fed today with the news, everybody. Okay. I think that's. That's what it got for you. I don't think anything else new has really. I guess there's some drama with Kim Kardashian and Ray J. He's still claiming that they had a set, a secret settlement over the sex tape. And he's mad at her and he's trying to sue her because she spoke poorly of him on the Kardashians. Cool. Got it. Teddy Mellencamp. She did a really beautiful tribute to her dad, John Mellencamp. It was really Sweet. I think it was what at the. She was. She received the Icon award at the iHeartRadio Music Awards. Lots of great celebs appeared there. She gave a really beautiful tribute, which was very, very sweet. Yeah. All right, I think that's. That's what I got for you. Right? Okay, guys, hit the like button. Hit the subscribe button. Do all the things I'm sending you love. So I'm hoping you send a little love, a little love in the clear to everybody around you. Leave an Apple podcast review this week and that way I can, can give you a shout out. A shout out. No, her dad didn't die. Teddy's dad, I believe, John Malenkamp, I believe, is still alive. She was just shouting him out. I mean, come on. She had cancer and, you know, there's a lot going on. But hit the like button. Hit the subscribe button. No, guys, her dad did not die. Let's see. Sorry. Like, a tribute is like, thank you to my daddy for, like, you know. Okay, hit the like button. Hit the subscribe button. Leave an Apple podcast review over the weekend and I will talk to you guys on Monday. Have a great weekend. Live life. Have some family time. Have some friend time. Get a little Liddy city. Do the damn thing. All right, guys, I love you. Follow me at Zach Peter all over the Internet. Follow the podcast Newfields with Zach on Instagram. Subscribe and catch daily dose of Donna coming on in just a bit. Go follow Donna Boland. Give her some love in the club. All right, guys, ciao for now. Don't be a chaperone. Talk to you later. Bye.
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