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Bethenny Nou Shoe Feud, Justin Baldoni $10M Tell-All, Rebel Wilson Lawsuit Moving Forward
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We got a lot to get into. We got a lot to catch up on. Justin Baldoni's 10 million tell all. Is he really about to mention it all? Rebel Wilson. Her lawsuit is moving forward. She tried to get it dismissed and the judge said nap not today lady. Not today. Bethany Frankel. She is in a shoe feud with Dina Manzo and Dina Manzo's daughter Lexi. And Dina is popping off. So much to get into and yes, we have to talk about Kyle and Amanda and whatever was going on at that at that in the city premiere party. So I hope you're ready for it. Let's dive in. This is no Filter with Zach Peter your go to source for all the latest pop culture and reality TVT Surf fresh all week long. Now let's dive in. What's up guys? Welcome on and welcome on in. Welcome on in everybody in the club. Sorry I was not live yesterday. My power was down and out. My power was done. So's unfortunately so well they were doing like some maintenance and checks like testing on the alarm system and on the like the backup generator. And so they're like between 9am and 5pm you're probably gonna no power or the power is going to be in and out, on and off, on and off, on and off. And so I was like okay, great, well then that means I can't go live. And then they're like it's 9:30 and at 10 o' clock we are turning off the power. It is 9:45 in 15 minutes. We are turning off the power. None of the elevators will work, and we're on a very high floor, so getting up and down, in and out of the apartment building with the dogs is a mission. When the elevators are down, my goodness, it's. It's many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many flights of stairs. I have done it before, and I was not willing to do it again, so I was like, okay, if we're not going to have elevators, then we're not going to stay cooped up inside all day. So. So I tried my best, but we're back. We're here. We in it. We in it to win it. That is so scary, Zach. What's so scary? The elevators. Why is that scary? Yeah, listen, we up in the club, Zach. Pay your bills. Bills, bills, bills. My bills be paid. Erica says, my favorite handsome blank talk and podcaster. You were missed. I'm sorry, guys, but it's okay. You miss. You still had Donna yesterday. Yesterday. Yesterday. Oh, Cooper, mom says the guy who parked in your spot retaliated against your building. Right? He took the power down. Well, no, it was then. Funny, because. So I think I've told you guys about my cleaning lady, Gloria. And listen, punctuality. Is that the right. I think I on Instagram said punctuation, and I meant to say punctuality. Yeah, like, being punctual and on time, it's not her strong suit. Even though, like, there are some times where I'm like, wow, she's being really proactive this week, and she's, like, taking initiative and, like, doing things that I didn't ask her to do. And I really do appreciate that. But time management's not her strongest suit. And so I just know she's consistent with, like, always being late. But sometimes I don't know if it's, like, she's gonna be 15 minutes late or she's gonna be, like, two hours late. And so a couple weeks ago, she's like, by the way, I'm gonna be out of town for two weeks. But, like, on the drop of a dime, she's like, oh, yeah, by the way. So, like, this week, I'm not gonna be here after all. And I was like, oh, when were you gonna tell me that? And he was like, well, she's like, well, I'm telling you now. And I was like, oh, okay. So she's been gone for, like, two weeks, and so I just figured she would come back to her regular Friday morning schedule because that's how I have my days planned out with Gloria. And we were gone all day. We were out and about the dogs and I were out all day. We went to the dog park. We went to the vet. We were walking all around. We're having lunch here and lunch there and coffee here and trying to work there and, like, trying to do all the things. Okay. And it was a long day. And we finally get back home, and the electricity's on and the elevators are working again, and everything's good. I'm like, okay, great. We are coming to come. Gonna come home and we're gonna chill, and we're just gonna, like, you know, have a relaxing evening. And the next thing you know, I think I was home for maybe 20 minutes, and my doorbell rings. I'm like, who's at my door? And so I go and I open the door, and it's Gloria with all of her cleaning supplies. And I'm like, Gloria, it's 4:30 on a Monday morning. Like, what? I'm. What are you doing here? And she's like, I'm here to clean. And I was like, did we talk about you coming to clean? And she's just like, well, I text you earlier today saying, you know, that I was back in town today. And I asked, like, when I should come over. And I was like, yeah, you told me you were back in town. You asked when you should come over, but I didn't think you meant when should you come over today? And also, I never responded to the text message because I was, like, running around with the dogs. And I figured, oh, I'll respond to her at some point today and let her know, oh, just stick to our regular Friday schedule. Like, I wasn't gonna pick a different day. I assumed she meant like, do you want me to come in on a different day, an earlier day? Cause I hadn't been here for the last two weeks. And I was like, no, I was like, we'll just stick to Friday. It's fine. You know, I can mop my own floors for an extra couple of days. And, yeah, so Gloria was at my door with all her cleaning stuff. And I was like. Part of me was like, do I just let her in and clean? But I'm like, but then if I let her in and clean, then I have to take the dogs back out. And the dogs are exhausted, and I'm exhausted. And I'm like, I'm sorry, Gloria. We don't need you today. And she's like, oh, okay. It's okay. And I was like, but I didn't ask you. Like, I felt bad But I was like, but I did not ask, like, how did you just show up at my door and like, surprise, I'm here to clean. I'm like, girlfriend, no, just come back. And she's like, well, when should I come back? And I was like, on your regular day on Friday, Friday mornings, not Monday afternoon. So I felt bad that I sent Gloria home, but I had to send Gloria home because I'm like, gloria, I'm sorry. Like, sorry. I also think it may be time to replace Gloria. Don't tell her, But I think, you know, we've. We've tried enough. All right. Lots to get into. I guess we can start with the. The Kyle and Amanda stuff. Well, actually, we'll start with Alex Cooper. She's pregnant. Yay. Congrats to her. She's expecting a baby with her husband, Matt Kaplan. So I guess you can indeed turn a hoe into a housewife, because Alex Cooper is proof of that. So she's married. She's pregnant now. I think it just takes a minute to get all of the hoe phase out of your system, right? Like, I know she was like, go ho. Suck dick. Do all the things. And now it's like, well, but, you know, now she's right. She's grown. Cause people are, like, mad at her. They're just like, why is she now, like, she was telling all these girls to be hoes and to be single and to not want k. Now here she is, married with a husband and a business, and she's like, you know, I'm just like, listen, she's allowed to evolve and grow and, like, decide that she no longer wants to be a hoe. She. You can turn a hoe into a housewife. It. Well, or I guess we'll see. But Alex Cooper is here, breaking glass ceilings, as always. So congrats to Alex Cooper, Kyle Cook, and Amanda Batula from Summer House. So tonight, Tuesday, May 19, is the premiere or is the official premiere of the new Summer House spinoff on Bravo called In the City. Kyle Cook is on it. Lindsay Hubbard is on it. Amanda Batula is on it. Danielle is on it. All from the OG cast of Summer House. Now, they're all filming their next chapter because, I mean, they can't be doing Summer House. For people that aren't familiar, Summer House is like a. It's a show that they film over the summer where outside of their nine to five, Monday through Friday lives. On the weekends, they go and they have drunken debauchery and they party and they hook up with each other. And all this stuff. And the show's been on for many, many seasons. I think nine, ten seasons now. And. And so they've been on that journey trajectory for several. For like a decade now. And so at some point, like, okay, they're like in their 40s now or pushing 40, and, like, they can't just be getting drunk and fighting and hooking up with each other forever. Like, and also, I think people were interested in what their lives are like week when they're back in the city because they all live in New York and they go out to the Hamptons for the weekend. And so now we have this spin off. It's called in the City. And I believe we're really going to see the deteriorate deterioration. Deterioration of Kyle Cook and Amanda Petullo's marriage. They've been married for a long time. They're the staple couple on the show. He's always been Peter Pan, party boy, wants to have fun all the time. She kind of seems like a stick in the mud. I never really got the two of them together. I guess they were kind of like a balance, a yin and a yang. But so obviously their marriage didn't work out because they announced in January that they were separated. And then this whole scandal blew up because Amanda was dating this guy west, who is one of the newer cast members on the show. He came on a few years ago, but west was hooking up with and in a situationship with Sierra, who's Amanda's good friend. Okay, so Amanda and Kyle, staple couple, break up. Sierra and west, situationship, not really together, but, like, Sierra's kind of still into him. So then Amanda and Sierra, they're best friends. Okay, well, apparently there's no girl code because Amanda went and then started sleeping with west. And Sierra's like, whoa, wtf? What's going on? Okay, so then everybody was like, super pissed at Amanda because they're like, how could you do that to your friend Sierra? Sierra was so good to you. And, like, you literally just, like, took her man. And I was kind of like, well, but like, west wasn't really her man. And west was always kind of like that guy. But the betrayal was really like, Amanda knew that Sierra had feelings for west, even though he was always the bad boy that was never going to settle down. Right. Well, now, I guess since they're. They had last night in New York. Bravo had the premiere party for the new premiere of in the City. And so Kyle Cook was posing on the step and repeat with all the logos. That's what it's called. It's called Step and Repeat. And Kyle posed with Amanda on the Step and Repeat. And people were, like, pissed. And I was just like, whoa. That's, like, really big of him. One, he's going through a divorce with her. Two, she's sleeping with one of his good friends, west, right after they decided to split. And, like, she's in the middle of, like, this big scandal. And so Kyle came out, and he's like, everybody saw that we were taking photos, and they think that it's fake. And, like, I just want you to know that, like, Amanda wasn't even sure she wanted to go to the premiere. And, like, I'm the one that encouraged her to go, and I wanted to pose with her. And I guess that was his signal to the rest of the world that, like, they're all good, right? But my thing to me, like, for me, I think Amanda's very manipulative, and I think that I would have more respect for Amanda if she was like, listen, I'm going to prioritize my mental health, and I need to kind of shine away from everything. Like, Raquel, Rachel, Rocky, Rocky, Bang, bang. During Scandival, Rachel went and, like, fled for the hills. Like, she disappeared. She stopped filming the show. She didn't come back for another season. Like, she did the reunion. But, like, she was done. She did not want to continue on that, you know, scandal. She wanted to be done with it. Amanda, on the other hand, did the exact opposite diabolical. First publicly confirms that her and west are in a relationship, and they post a joint statement together. Despite what we've now learned, that they've been lying to their friends for all of these months. Okay, so not only do we have them publicly confirming their relationship in a joint statement, but then she released another statement basically saying, fuck y' all motherfuckers. I'm going to live my life. I'm with this dude now, and for my mental health, I'm moving on with my life. And then after posting that statement of basically saying, when you see us together, like, you know, don't be shocked. Then they were out at the baseball game together, kissing and holding hands. And like, Holly says, rocky, Rocky, bang, bang. The sound healer. Yeah, she's a sound healer now. She's in Arizona. She does, like, sound healing. And I'm like, good for her. She living her life. But, like, for Amanda to now be like, I don't even know if I want to go to the premiere in the city. And, like, this is too much like, you did this not only did you break your girl code with Sierra, but then you were diabolically flaunting west in everybody's faces. And we're basically like, we're a couple now. Like, get used to it. So I'm sorry, you can't then be like, oh, no, now I don't want to go to the premiere. Because, like, now I just, you know, Kyle, I don't know if I can handle it. Everybody hates me based off of your actions. People didn't wake up one day and they're like, you know what? Today I'm just gonna hate Amanda Betula. Why? I don't know. I just feel like hating her. No, you were literally a monster. You were diabolical. What you did to Sierra, that was awful, okay? Because you continued to rub it in her face and flaunt it in front of the world. Okay? Amanda and Wes were like, ooh, look at us, we're gonna kiss at the, the baseball game. And ooh, the kiss cam is on us. And, ooh, we're going to be lovey dovey, diabolical, okay? You can't play smart and stupid at the same time. You know, if you're going to hold that energy, then you know what, Walk into that room, coochie out, tits out west on your arm and pose with him. If that's the game you want to play, then stay with it and stay consistent with it, homegirl. Because, like, I'm not going to play this, like, back and forth, like, oh, now, now she's suddenly Blake Lively and she's shy. Bullfucking shit. Eat my ass. Sorry, don't buy it. And poor Kyle, I think, is genuinely like a decent dude, right? He's a party boy. He's never going to want to settle down. He has Peter Pan syndrome. That's Kyle, right? But I think Kyle at his core, like, he doesn't want to hurt Amanda. He is like, even though he's a total fuckboy, he's a decent dude, his heart means well. And a lot of those fuckboys you, you'll see, they're very flawed and they're very selfish and they're very short sighted, but they do care about people, right? They do have a heart, which is what makes them so endearing. And what gets you caught on the cycle of the fuckboys is they have this endearing side of them that they show you. And so you're like, oh, but there's good on the inside. I can break his fuckboy ways and you really can't. He just has to grow out of it. Right. And it takes time and takes a long time for him to be ready to grow out of that. So that said, I don't buy it that, like, he was just like, oh, Amanda Dean, want to go to the premiere? I think she knew that she was going to be disliked, and I think she knew that she misplayed it when she was posting statements with west and going out in public and, you know, being kissy kissy with him at the baseball game. I think she knew that she had missed the mark. Okay? She completely missed the mark and needed to rehide that image. And. And so the best way she knew how to do that was to manipulate Kyle into being her ally because now he feels bad for her despite her deliberately making choices that put her in the position that she's in now. So. Yeah, no, we don't have a zoom tonight. Josh. Zooms are usually. Zooms are only on Wednesdays. And Josh, you aren't even in our zooms. Josh doesn't even go to our zooms. Josh, you don't even go here. But our Wednesdays are on our. Sorry. Our zooms are on Wednesday each evenings. Gotta keep blood pumping, you know? Yeah, true that, Fifi. True that. So, yeah, okay, let's move on. We talked about Alex Cooper. We talked about Kyle and Amanda. Let's talk Rebel Wilson. So Rebel Wilson, most notably from Pitch Perfect. What other movies did she do? Oh, she wasn't bright. I was like, she's in Bridesmaids. She wasn't Bridesmaid. She played the roommate, Maya, not Maya, who was the. Kristen Wiig's roommate. Remember? With her and her creepy brother. What else was she interested in? Pitch Perfect. She was in that. She's. She was Fat Amy, remember? Well, anyway, so for those that don't remember, she's currently being sued by her co producers, so. And executives on her film. It's Amanda Ghost, Gregor, Gregor Camion and Vince Holden. Okay? Three people that are suing her because she had claimed on social media that her. That her movie that they were doing. Oh, what's the name of the movie? Why am I blanking on the name of the movie? And I didn't write it in my notes? Anyway, she was doing a movie. One of her co producers, Amanda Ghost, she claimed, essayed one of the. The movie's stars, Charlotte Mac Mackness. I don't know how you say that. Charlotte. Charlotte's Web. Okay, so she's claiming that Amanda Ghost got all up in Charlotte's Web and she was haunting her coochie or something. I don't know. She basically made claims of essay, and she also claimed that her film executives, Gregor Cameron and Vince Holden, that they were embezzling funds from the film's budget. Okay, well, now Amanda, Gregor and Vince are all suing Rebel Wilson for defamation and claiming that her allegations are false. I believe Charlotte has also come out and is like, whoa, that didn't happen. Oh, the Deb. Yes, the Deb is the name of the movie. And I believe the Deb is still on hold. We still have Deb on the shelf. Deb has not come off the shelf yet. Deb is stuck. She's in. She's on pause. The Deb is on the pause. So anyway, she's been sued. She's trying to. She tried to have the case thrown out because she claims that she was telling the truth based off of what she believed Charlotte was claiming that she wasn't actually essayed. And then Rebel came out and she's just like. Well, she's just saying that because they. They're paying her off and they're promising her other opportunities in other films, and they're just trying to do this to make me look bad. And that's basically the summarized gist of the litigation. And so she was trying to get the case dismissed. The judge said, nope, this is moving forward. So now the case will be moving forward. So unfortunately, her dismissal did not get granted and she will be getting sued. Now, this relates to the Blake and Baldoni of it all because Melissa Nathan of Tag pr, Justin Baldoni's crisis manager, and Jed Wallace, who they had hired to help monitor conversations about it ends with us online. They're also dragged into this based off of allegations that were made by Amanda Ghost, saying that there was, like, a website to, like, trash her. It was like a smear campaign against them. And they're alleging that Melissa Nathan and Jed Wallace were also engaged in this smear campaign against that Rebel Wilson was trying to launch against Amanda Ghost to discredit her. So
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We'll see. We shall see. We shall see. Be our guest. Be our guest. Be our guest. Okay, that said, let's see, what else? What else? What else? Oh, I guess we can move on to Beldoni. So, with Justin Baldoni. According to a source that spoke with In Touch, Justin Baldoni and his team are looking into the logistics, or I guess this is a direct quote from a source that spoke with In Touch. It says Justin and his team are looking into the logistics, and by all accounts, he's champing at. He's chomping at the bit. Why does it say champion should. The quote should be chomping. He's chomping at the bit. At the prospect of sitting down on TV and giving his full version of what went down down. It would make him an absolute fortune, no doubt. So the financial incentive is there. And of course, it'll be even more lucrative if he decides to write a book about the whole experience. For any TV company or streaming service lucky enough to pull this off, it would be a guaranteed slam dunk. Since the case is already ingrained into the history books as one of Hollywood's most explosive legal battles of all time, there would be a big bidding war, without question. And then they also In Touch also factors in, they say. Considering that Prince Harry made a reported 27 million to write spare, says the source, it's hard to imagine Justin Belzoni getting any less than than 10 million for his story, if not more. A docu series would pay even higher than that, depending on how many others were bidding. This is a huge payday he's got waiting for him. And if and when he decides to pull the trigger, I don't think this is the route that he will go in. And okay, send notes to Jennifer Abel. Send this to Jennifer Abel. Say, Jennifer Abel, this is what you should do. Relaunch the man. Enough podcast and let it be a sit down with Jamie and Justin. I don't think we need Steve. I don't think we need Jennifer. We definitely don't need Melissa. We definitely don't need Jed. I think we kind of let Melissa and Jed fade into, out of the narrative, right? Like, keep it focused on Justin and Jamie. And I think because people know them more and not that I have anything against Steve, I think Steve, I'm sure is a great guy as well. I've never met him or anything, but, like, I'm sure he's a great guy. Maybe they can include Steve, but I just think it's more impactful when you have two people and they're two people that are just having a raw, honest conversation. So if, like, don't even think about the money, because I don't think the money matters at this point. I think if you do, like, first of all, what are you going to do? Like an extra or like a 2020, like those? Nobody gives a shit about that. Nobody watches that. You're not going to do an ID special, you know, investigative discovery special. No, I say the TV stations, the media that did not have your back and do it your way, do it the way you won this case. And that was by leveraging the power of the Internet, right? Take not only the narrative back, take control back. Blake Cardi has all of her bots and her army planting stuff in traditional media. And here's the thing. All of those outlets, even the ones that are offering to pay you, are going to cover what you say already, right? They're going to cover it regardless. All of social media is going to pick it up. All of the haters are going to mince your words and pick it apart, regardless of what you say. All of your supporters are going to clip it and send it out to the masses, regardless of what you say. And the news outlets are going to find ways to make headlines out of it. And listen, you can't control what the headlines are going to be. You can hope that they come to their senses and maybe give you some favorable headlines, but also understand you're never going to win that game because that's a game that is just played by Leslie Sloan and make her feel like a big. A big fish in a small pond. Her expiration date. Like, I can already smell the milk expiring, you know? So, yeah, I think do it your way. Relaunch Man Enough. I don't know if you'll retain the audience on Man Enough moving forward, but at least you then keep it under your name, your umbrella, whatever, produce it, make it look. I mean, don't like, go over the top with the production because you still want it to feel real, right? You still. You don't want it to lose that if that authenticity that. I think it could be. I think it could be in the Man Enough studio. I think it can be in one of their homes. I mean. Or like, it should be a one. I mean, trying to think of, like, what the best way. I think, like Laguna beach, when they did their reunion, I think they did a really good job of having, like, wholesome conversations. Like, if you want to go docu series style, I think what, what Roku did with the Laguna beach reunion, I don't think you should do any of, like, the, the big Set with the background and all that. I think you should keep it really simple, keep it very humble because that's, you know, the not marketing, but like, that's, that's just true to the brand of, of, you know, how we see Justin and Jamie. And I think it should just be a one on one conversation of like, hey, what was your re like, how are you feeling now? Do you feel vindicated? You know, and just ask very real human questions that people want to know? Right. If you feel comfortable giving more context or details in some of the allegations that Blake lodged against you guys, like, sure, go for it. But I just think it should be a one on one convo and not an interview. Not, not nothing too structured, but just a one on one combo. It can even be an hour, 90 minutes max of just the two of them, you know, and I think that is, that is how you do it and that's how you continue to stay in control of the narrative. That's how you continue to stay in control of the story, of the brand, of your own integrity. You're not putting the power in anybody else. And I think you just have a raw, truly raw conversation and then decide afterwards if there's anything you want to cut because you'll ultimately have control and power and like tape it, film it, sit on it, maybe for like a week, revisit it, go through it and see what do I really want out, if there's anything that I really want out. Cause usually when you have some time away to reflect on it and you get over that vulnerability, hangover, you look at things from a very different lens. So I'll just say that also, you know, just gonna throw my hat in there too. If you do want somebody to conduct the interview, I'm happy to work with you. I'm just gonna manifest that. Jennifer Abel, if that is an option, if there's ever an option for somebody to cond that interview. I have conducted a number of really good in depth interviews. The show hasn't done a ton of interviews in like the last couple of years, but that is something that I feel very, very skilled in and would be happy to dust off that hat because I think we're probably going to get back into doing interviews on the show again. I have a couple of guests that we're already talking to and lining up for this summer that I think you might actually be very happy with. So I see some of you already mentioning names or just people that you've mentioned in the live chat. I'd love to see Justin talk To listen. I would love that. I would love that. If I get to manifest or throw my name out there ahead of time, I think I'm disarming. I think I'm gay. I think there are many redeeming. I'm a skilled interviewer. I've had this podcast for 11 years, but I've also been hosting and interviewing much longer. Anybody but Nick Viall. I don't think Nick Viall, I mean Nick Viall hates dressed in Beldoni. I don't think that will happen. He's also just not a skilled interviewer. He has a whole team that tells him what to think and say. So. Yeah, we'll see. Fifi. Yeah, that may already be in negotiations. So get it. What is B.B. okay, that's it. Let's. Okay, so that's Beldonian is 10 million dollar tell all. I don't think he's going to do the 10 million dollar tallow. I just, I don't think that that's going to be a thing that he's going to do. Okay, let's talk Bethany Frankel and let's talk Aliens. Oh my God. Because the aliens. Molly dare says Zach and Justin unfiltered. Molly, I'm glad you've entered the live chat because I'm about to reference you. Send Justin the Justice for. Oh, thank you, Dot. Bo, tell Jennifer Abel. That's another selling point. We sold justice for Justin shirts. And even though I don't know if I revealed this, but even though I said I was going to donate 50% of the proceeds to the no More organization in honor of Beldoni and wayfair, I donated 100% of the proceeds from those shirts. So when we did that, that campaign, I donated all the proceeds and I personally covered the transaction fees myself. So that should be another redeeming quality. Okay, all right, that's it. Let's talk Bethany Frankel because she is in a bit of hot water. Hot, hot, hot. Because of this video that she posted. I'm not going to play the video. I'm not going to play all the videos. I'm just going to recap them for you. I'm sure you've seen the videos by now. It happened over the weekend. I planned on addressing this yesterday, but. Oh, that's. Thank you, Elle. Another great redeeming quality. Take notes. Give Jennifer Abel A 17 point list as to why. If anybody's going to get that interview, it should be me. I did. I was one of only outspoken support. Well, not necessarily supporter of Beldoni. But was at least willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when the New York Times article first dropped because I was questioning Blake's, Blake's story. And I was one of the only people that was actually saying that out loud before Candace Owens, before any of those other people jumped, before Perez. I was one of the very few and only ones from the second the New York Times article dropped because everyone's like, what? Candace Owens questioned it early on and blah. They all started questioning it in January when Baldoni started dropping receipts. I was the very first. And I got my beatings from the Internet accordingly. But anyway, I digress. Bethany Frankel, so she found herself into some drama over the weekend. Former Real Housewives of New Jersey star Dina Manzo called her out after her daughter Lexi posted a video basically dragging Bethany. And so Lexi, I guess owns a shoe brand called New. And those are the shoes that Bethany's wearing in this still shot from the video, her TikTok video. And so I guess and I would play the video, but it has copyrighted music and YouTube gets mad when we do that stuff. So that's why I'm just recapping everything and we don't need to watch all the videos back and forth because there have now been several videos. But anyway, I guess Lexi gifted Bethenny Frankel a pair of these shoes from her shoe brand called New N O U. And so she claims that Bethany has worn these shoes often. And according to Lexi, Bethany has never shouted out the brand and Lexi was bothered by that. Okay, so in this dancing video that Bethany posts, you can see that Bethany is wearing, is wearing the shoes from New. And she's also wearing a white, white and black polka dot dress and she has some like very chic black sunglasses on. She looks great. Body looks bangin dress is very cute. I love this look on her. Very chic. But people in her comments were asking her about the outfit and they're like, where, where do we buy the shoes? Where do we buy the dress? Where do we get the sunglasses? Like drop a link, drop a link, drop a link. And so Bethany then posted an Instagram story with a dupe link. Okay, A dupe link that basically directed people to purchase a pair of shoes, not necessarily the pair that she was wearing. So what is a dupe link? A dupe link. It's a link that links out to similar items that are usually less expensive but that look similar, have a similar vibe, feel, whatever. And I believe she gets a small commission off of whatever gets sold through that dupling but the whole purpose of dupe is, you know, people, influencers, celebs, whatever, they post what they're wearing. And sometimes they're wearing designer, sometimes they're wearing high end, or sometimes what they're wearing is no longer in stock, stock or it's limited edition, it's couture, whatever. But you can find things or items that are similar based off of the AI. I mean, there have been a number besides dupe. There have been like, I believe Google does that type of option for shopping. Kim Kardashian tried to launch an app a while back with this style where they pull similar items and sometimes you find like the same item that's like cheaper somewhere else or like a discount or like a retail, a reseller. But so anyway, Bethany posted the shoes and posted a dupe link that showed brands that were not, that were not new. Well, this then prompted Lexi as the founder to post this scathing video about why Bethany is a weirdo and how it's awful to post a dupe link rather than to support her woman owned small business. And Dina Manzo being her mama, came out and she shared it and she started calling out Bethany. And now because Molly Dare, my friend Molly, who works in crisis pr, she understands marketing, she understands the world of public relations. And Molly and I have these conversations often. Molly and I are in alignment about how we feel about this. But Molly's been making videos about how influencer marketing works and Dina has been in there with her Cheeto dusted fingers and she's been typing up a storm coming at Molly Dare and I'm like, don't come for my friends. But so anyway, later that day, that same day, Bethany posted a fit check video which shows her modeling and shouting out the brands that she's wearing in this outfit. And she does this often. She often links out to the things that she's wearing. She shouts out brands that she loves. She doesn't always go super high end. She always talks about, she does high, low, she gets high end where there's, it's worth an investment. But she also, you know, likes to shop non name brand sunglasses. Like if a pair of sunglasses is cute, she'll buy the pair of sunglasses. But so fit check videos, very common, right? You go through each item, you shout out the brand, what you're wearing so that people can shop or get something similar or like shop similar to the look. It's something that like Us Weekly does. Magazines do it all the time. Like, oh my God, this star is wearing this outfit. Well, we sourced These items that look similar, that you can have a look very similar to this. Well, in this video, she does shout out new shoes. Okay? She is. She's like, oh, fit check. And she, like, goes. And she's like, these glass. These glasses are memorial. And this dress is from here. And then she takes her shoe off and she's like. And the shoe is new. And ou. She puts the shoe back on, yada, yada, yada. So she specifically calls out new. Calls out the brand by name. She then posted another video after this where she specifically is talking to the camera and addresses Lexi. Okay, now if you pay attention, the outfit that Bethany's wearing in her video addressing Lexi and the outfit of her with the black polka dot or the black and white polka dot dress, very different. Which tells me that they were likely filmed on different days. So the short timeframe makes me feel like this was batched content. This black and white dress that she was wearing was likely from possibly the day prior or just earlier in the morning. Usually when you're taping content about your. Your outfit, as we've seen with the Kardashians do, a number of times, you batch a period of time, you take all the content in that specific outfit, and then over the course of the next 24, 48, or whenever it fits into your content calendar, you then post that content. But very rarely are you posting that content in real time. I do the same thing. I don't do fit checks, but when I'm out, when I'm at an event, when I'm doing things, I usually take a bunch of content and I don't post it until later that night or the next morning. I batch the content, and I rarely tape things and post them in real time. Sometimes they do. Not always, but. So Bethany posted a video clapping back at Lexi, claiming that this was a dumb move on her part to publicly call her out like this. She says that it was shortsighted. And Bethany goes on to talk about how. How much product that she can sell and how much inventory that she can move for people. And she's done it another time, a num. A number of times with other brands. And that calling Bethany out in this way, she's like, calling me out just pisses me off at this point. And I think she calls her like a crybaby, which wasn't very nice. But Bethany also made it clear that, like, she's not obvious. She says, my body, my choice. I can do whatever I want. You send me a product. I have no obligation to link anything to Shout out any brands that send her any free product. She gets tons of product on a weekly basis. Okay. So yeah, it would be weird for her to shout out and link every single brand. Even if the brand you know is run by a woman. Like that doesn't have to. That doesn't mean she has to post every single thing that she receives just because it's a woman owned brand. Right. Or just because it's a small business. Now, would it be nice for her to shout out every single brand? Sure. But in a real world, I don't think that that's realistic. Right. Especially with the number of volume. I mean, I know I received tons of products all the time. I don't always shout out all those brands. If I find something that I really do like and I really do love, I will tag the brand. Sometimes I'll link out to it just for convenience of people that follow me. Right. So you also have to consider she has affiliate links and gets paid brand endorsements that have to take precedent. Right. She can't just promote every single thing for free just because somebody gifts her something. She has to take, like the brands that pay her to promote things take precedent. And then her affiliate links also take precedent because that's a source of income for her. And I think anybody would feel that same way if they were in that position. Right. And Bethany also clarifies that one, the fit check video was filmed earlier in that day during the batch of content. And she was always planning on posting that video. And in that video you can see her clearly shouting out new, the shoe brand. Right. And she also claims that her team attached a dupe link on her Instagram story because that particular pair of new shoes was sold out. Which it was. The shoe was not available. So if you're like, oh, you guys want to know where I bought these shoes? The shoes are from New. But here's a similar product because it happens to be sold out on the new website, which is exactly what happened. I know a lot of people are hating on Bethany. For the sake of hating on Bethany, haters are going to, hey, sit there, rub one out and you know, lick your Cheeto dusted fingers. I don't really care. I'm just saying she did shout out the brand and she did link out to a similar brand because New was sold out. Okay. Bethany says that people get upset when you link to a product that they can't purchase. Again, being in that situation where I do get gifted product and sometimes the product is later or whatever the case may be, sometimes yeah, you don't want to link to a product that's sold out because then people get annoyed with that. So she linked to a site that had a similar but more affordable options. Okay. Now Lexi has since placed that shoe back up for pre sale, which was smart on Lexi's end because now you can pre order that shoe. But the shoe itself was not available at the time of Bethany's posting. Now, I don't know Bethany's target audience, but the shoe itself. I looked on Lexi's website. The shoe itself retails for $375. I feel like Bethany's consumer isn't necessarily a high end luxury shopper because Bethany tries to market herself as like the every girl. So $375 is a little steep for most customers, right? It just is for the average Joe in this economy, in this financial climate, I understand, like 3:75 is not necessarily something that everybody can afford. So posting a dupe link just does kind of sound realistic. Now a few different things to consider here though, right? Like I, I think for me, I'm sure, you know, her customers, based off of who I believe her consumer to be, would probably, you know, buy a shoe that's around a hundred dollars or under a hundred dollars rather than paying 375. Now, a few different things to consider, right? I agree. I think Lexi's move was a bit ranty and a bit short sighted, but it also brought a lot of exposure to her shoe brand. Right? So maybe it helped. I don't know. I don't know if it helped more than endorsement would have helped, but I think her shoe line is very cute. Her, her designs are very, you know, very stylish, very chic. I wish Lexi lots of success. However, just because somebody sends you free product does not mean that you deserve anything in return, Right? That's just kind of the gamble that you take when you send somebody free products. And I'm going to talk about the other side of this in a second, so chill. The Cheeto dusted fingers brands take that gamble every single time that they decide to send someone any sort of product. There's no guarantee of a post, there's no guarantee of a mention, there's no guarantee of a link. A few years back, back in 2022, I had launched a housewives inspired line of canned sparkling wine. They were canned little sparkling wines with nods to famous reality or infamous reality TV moments that we could sip on while we watched our favorite reality shows. I loved that brand. It sold very well. We did limited edition drops with different designs and different holiday collection and a fall collection. Like, we just. I had fun with it, right? We did a fall collection for Potomac so that when the new season of Potomac launched, you could buy the Potomac cans and watch Real Housewives of Potomac. I did a, you know, a holiday collection where I did, like, little nods to, like, sprinkle cookies and Erica Jane being lit. It was like, I'm lit like a Christmas tree. Like, I did little, like, cute nods to these moments in reality TV that I knew people that were fans of reality TV would catch on to. And there was, like, that novelty to it. I loved the bread sold well. I, too, would gift out cases of my wine to people. Okay, Most times people would post on their Instagram stories and tag me, right? Not always. But I knew again, that was the gamble that I would take. When I sent out free product for somebody, there was no guarantee. Perfect example. I remember one time I sent out a case of my wine. I was on an Instagram live, and Dana Wilke, I don't know if you remember her from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, she was on, like, season two. She was a friend of. She's like, $25,000. She was always bragging about her sunglasses. Well, that swamp creature came onto one of my Instagram lives and was like, give me some free wine. I want some free wine. Give me some free wine. And so I sent her a case of the wine, and then she went online and trashed it and said that it gave her the worst headache ever and said that I should check the sulfates in the wine. And I was like, what a fucking bitch. Like, first of all. But again, that was the gamble that I took. I sent it to a fucking bitch and she trashed my business online. Rather than being honest with me or rather than having a conversation with me about, like, hey, here are some recommendations. She went on a YouTube live and she completely trashed my brand. But that's part of the game that you play when you decide to send people free product, is that sometimes they may not like the product. Now, she was the only person that ever had a complaint about the wine, and the only person that said that the wine gave her a hangover. Just to be clear, the wine was designed with no sugar and with less sulfite. I tried to use organic grapes. Like, you know, I tried to do the best that I could to make a good, clean, high alcohol content product. And it. People loved it. Except for that swamp creature that trashed it online. But anyway, like, Melissa Gorga tagged me in her Instagram stories and posted the one when I send it to her. Erica Jane tagged me in her Instagram stories when I sent it to her. Jacqueline, the Rita from Real Houses in New Jersey did a whole video for me with the taste test. Super generous of her. I didn't ask them for any of those things. None of that was paid. I just sent them product in hopes that they would support me and post it. Right. And those were some of the women that did post it. Lisa Rinna, on the other hand, who I was very friendly with at that time. I sent her the wine, she didn't post it. There was no mention, there was no tag, there was no thank you. There was no even acknowledgement of her even receiving the wine. And that was fine too. And those are the gambles that you take when you're, when you're building a business and sending out free products. Sometimes they're going to post and tag. I don't think anybody linked out to the wine, which was totally fine because then I made sure to repost them and put the links and do all of that stuff and like use that user generated content to my benefit. Right. And so yes, there were unfortunate times where Lisa Rinna didn't post the wine and I was disappointed or Dana Wilkey went and trashed the wine and I was upset. But like, you know, was it a bummer? Sure. But I wasn't devastated and I wasn't going to go online and call people out and do all of that. So, you know. And Rinna even went on to launch her own sparkling wine shortly after that. I had friends that were in the influencer category. Some of them posted, some of them did not. I was grateful to those that did. I was super bummed at those that didn't. But I didn't take any of it personal. Right. It's a marketing gamble. It's an investment that you're making hoping that there will be some sort of conversion or at least some content that you can then utilize. Now, would I have been pissed if somebody posted a photo of my wine and linked to a competitor? Sure. But also I didn't have any competitors because I know how to be in a market. But anyway, yeah, I would probably be annoyed by that. But if my wine were out of stock, well then I can't be too pissed about it because as the business owner, that's on me. That's my bad for not keeping my items in stock when I know that that's a product that I want to be promoted. Right. There were other times where, you know, people would buy my wine and they would buy lover boy seltzers, right? And have like Bravo inspired watch parties. I wasn't offended at them showcasing lover boy and showcasing my wine again, because it's just part of doing business, right? And there's novelty with the wine line that I had and with the lover boy collection as it relates to Bravo housewives, all of that stuff. So. And like my friend Molly Dare brought up when I was discussing this with her over the weekend, when it comes to other ugc, which is user generated content, ugc, that's on you as the business to leverage that and utilize that to your benefit, which I did. Whenever a house wife or a Bravo lab took a photo with my wine, I would then use that to promote that on my own. Right. Sheena Shay also posted my wine on her Instagram stories and tagged me. But when I hosted a live show here in LA at the Bourbon Room and Sheena was there, I made sure that my venue was stocked with the wine. And I made sure I told my photographer, take photos of everybody with my wine. If you see somebody holding my wine, you make sure you get good organic photos. You make sure you get posed photos. And so when we got a photo of Sheena holding the wine in her hand at the event, yeah, I used that in my marketing, right. I went on a podcast tour that April, that spring, and I had my wine at my shows and got lots of photos of reality stars with my wine, of guests with my wine. You know, I made sure the wine was on stage. It's on you to leverage the opportunities that you have right in front of you. Right. It's about how you play the game. But I never once cried about somebody not linking to my product. Right. Most of the time, people don't link to your products. So I just got smarter about how I got them to promote it. Right. And you know, as Lexi admits in her video, Bethany had worn the shoes a number of times before. So she was clearly seen Bethany wear her brand. That alone is a huge endorsement. That alone has so much value that you as the brand can use. Right? Take three photos of Bethany wearing your shoes and then use that, you know, to show that this is a Bethany endorsed. Bethany loved. Bethany used product here three different times she's worn our shoes. These are shoes that Bethany loves because she continues to wear them. Right. Expecting an influencer, a reality star, a celebrity to post a link to drive sales for your brand without paying them just out of the kindness of their heart? Yeah, no, sorry, that's called entitlement. That's a high expectation that you have for a free pair of shoes. And yeah, Bethany can afford to buy her own shoes. She doesn't need your shoes right now. Even the founder of. I believe it's pronounced memori. It's M E, M O R. I like memory, but with an I at the end. And maybe memory or maybe memory, but so Memorial Eyewear, which is the brand of sunglasses that Bethany's wearing in this same video that she's wearing Lexi shoes in. She came out in support of Bethany in Bethany's defense, claiming that Bethany has been nothing but supportive of her business and that, you know, Bethany, that she's grateful that Bethany wears her sunglasses. And like, that's a huge endorsement in and of itself. But listen, Lexi took a gamble. She got some attention, and I hope that she's able to retain that attention. Right. I don't know if she will be able to. I don't love her marketing decision to blast people in a video on social media. That's never really been my style. Trust me, I've been prompted and wanted to do that, you know, when it's in the heat of the moment. But, like, you know, the reality is most people that love to go on these take down sorts of rants usually don't have the type of cash flow to just be buying, you know, $375 pairs of shoes on a random Saturday. And that's not about Lexi. That's about the people that are like, rah, rah Rambo for Lexi. Let's take down Beth. Like, there are a lot of Bethany haters out in the water right now and they love when they smell blood and they'll just come for her because they can't stand her. And yes, Bethany can be obnoxious a lot of the time, but, you know, I just, I don't know if this was the smartest long term retention move for Lexi's business because again, the people that love these sorts of, like, social media takedowns. I'm sorry, they usually don't. They're not buying $375 pairs of shoes on a random Saturday. They're just not. So I don't know if there will be much conversion, I don't know if there'll be much retention, but it definitely, you know, it drew brand visibility and there's value in that. So I hope Lexi's able to leverage that. But also, I want to be clear that, like, I didn't love Bethany going super hard on Lexi and calling her a Crybaby. I thought she could have had a little more tact, but that's Bethany. And the B is going to be. So you kind of know what you're gonna get with Bethany. Like, she also did, I think. Not Panera. Sweet Greens. I think they launched, like, a new Caesar wrap and they, like, sent it to her so that she could post about it. And she was like, this is kind of gross. I'm not gonna lie to you and tell you that it's good. I don't really like it. And listen, she gives honest reviews, and that's just, you know, that's just what it is. You know, Christina says all of the chat says, we want one. Should I bring the wine line back? Does Zach knows his demo? I do know my demo. I absolutely know my demo. Lexi got so much attention for this. Is it helping sales? Who knows? Here's the thing. Noise and ATT or noise? Yeah, I guess noise and attention. Noise and attention don't often lead to conversion. It's just noise and attention. And I know that because my podcast has made a lot of noise and attention with certain guests on when we get a lot of press pickup and we make a lot of headlines when I have guests. And it's now come very organically. But that doesn't necessarily drive conversions to new podcast listeners, if that makes sense. But for me, the value in that is the brand visibility, the fact that my name, my face, and my show have visibility on these websites, in these media outlets, on social media, whatever. To me, there's value in that. And so to me, it's more about brand visibility rather than it is the conversion for new listeners. There's a teeny, teeny, teeny, teeny, teeny tiny fraction of people that'll read a headline in Us Weekly and then be like, oh, let me go and listen to that full episode of that podcast. It doesn't always have that same conversion, but again, you have to know the pros and cons of the decisions that you're making, right? So that's where we at. I think Bethany fired back with the same name, calling out, yeah, Lexi called Bethany a weirdo. So Bethany called Lexi a crybaby. You know, and then, like I said, Dina Manzo's all up in Molly's comments, and, like, Dina's going crazy. And like, okay, Sandra says, okay, if Zach does a wine line, then I beg this community to press for the lowest sulfites and no chemicals for me. Well, dust and Sandrick. I did low sulfites. I did no added sugar. And it was actually good. And that's why I did sparkling because I knew that there were some people, like some of my friends like sweeter wines. And I don't want a sweeter wine. I don't want wine with sugar. I. But the sparkling wine does kind of alleviate your craving for a sweeter wine. Taught me things on here. Zach didn't know the pr, branding and how things. Yeah. Because I think most people were just like, we're going to jump in on, you know, the. We want to pile on Bethany because it seems like it's unfair because we have Lexi who's playing this role of this underdog here when it's like, well, no, you're a bit businesswoman. And if you're a businesswoman, you need to be smart and savvy. Right. The whiny entitlement, Gen Z entitlement. Gimme, gimme. Give me everything I want just because I deserve it. That's not how business works. And if you want to make it last in the. And again, she could have used Bethany's videos and photos and different outfits with the shoes to her benefit. And she didn't utilize that to her benefit, number one. And number two, when she had an opportunity to trash somebody like Bethany, Bethany, that does have a lot of cash and can move a lot of product. I think it was a short sighted move. Oh, Lexi is now 32, friendly. Oh, so Lexi and I had the same age. Okay, well then she's not Gen Z and I don't have any excuses for her. All the bubbles, please. Yes, bring back the wine. Yes, I, maybe I will bring. I wanted to bring it back. I'll think about it. I think it'll be. Maybe we'll do like a limited edition, like summer thing or maybe we'll do fall for the holidays. I'll think about it. We may start with the limited edition and if that sells well, that'll determine whether or not we move forward. She could have said, I'm accepting pre orders instead of her actual. Yeah, she could have done that. She could have been like, oh, look, I noticed Bethany linked out to this product, but I saw you guys wearing it. You know, I love that Bethany's a fan of the brand. I just want you guys to know the product is in stock and here or it will be in stock soon. But I don't think she did that. I think she noticed that it was getting a lot of attention. She was like, oh shit, I guess now I should put this on pre sale so that I could get these back. In stock. You know, a yummy tasting sparkling wine. Always a yummy tasting sparkling wine. It ends with wine. How fun would that have been? It ends with wine. I didn't even think about that. Molly says a birthday bubbly for the summer birthdays. Yes, like my summer birthday. Me and Donna bowling. Then bring it back. My. Listen again, you guys have to buy it and then, you know. Great PR advice today, everyone. I hope Lexi is tuning in. I doubt that she is because again, when you have a lot of people that are gassing you up online, you think that you're in the right, sometimes you need to have a little discernment. Here's Zach chatting about marketing and PR for this girl. I mean, listen, because most people, and this is what I was appreciative with Molly about, is like, she was doing all these Instagram videos. I wanted to do Instagram videos. And I just took. I took the weekend off, and I was like, I'll address it on Monday. And then Monday came, and then I didn't have power. And so I'm addressing it today and now. But, like, all of these are things that I wanted to talk about and that I was talking about with Molly over the weekend because I think Molly understands it from a very different perspective, from a valuable marketing PR perspective. Okay, let's talk aliens. I would buy it. My birthday is June 7. My birthday is June 15. Also, my love, it's May 19. I can't pull a line of wine out of my ass before June. That's like 10 days. Could you imagine? I'm not Khloe Kardashian. Mary and Lamar. I can't make it happen in 10 days. A never with teeth wine. Oh, never with teeth. I love that. Okay, let's see. When is your birthday? My birthday is June 15th, and Donna says, I think June 11th, if I'm not mistaken. You never know. She could be hiding behind a fake username. And it happens all the time. Maybe.
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Are we hybrids? We may be hybrids, Molly, because I just learned that aliens have been among us and that they may be. Oh, come on, Zach. Pull some wine out of your butt. But be sure to record it for views. Always. Always. I know. Now that's a segue from Bethany to aliens. Yes, well, you know, sometimes Bethany looks like an alien. Okay, are the aliens among us? So there's a man named Dr. Hell. Putoff. Putoff, Patoff. And so he's a former Advanced Aerospace Weapon System applications program advisor. I know that's a mouthful. Yeah, sorry if that, if it's a little too deep for some of you, but maybe you can work on your skills for the summer. But he was also a CIA funded researcher. Okay? And so he just came out last week. He was on the Diary of a CEO podcast and he's claiming that there are four types of aliens that have been discovered. That we have discovered four different types of aliens. Okay, crazy. He claims that people have been involved in recoveries. People that have been involved in recoveries have said that they're at least four types. Four separate types, four separate types of other life. And here are the four types of what they claim are aliens, which is crazy. Now that the alien files have been released by the government and we're getting more information about aliens, and apparently people are saying some aliens have been living here among us. And so some of us may be hybrids. I don't know if that's true, but it's fun to think about. And so his colleague, Dr. Eric Davis, he claimed that these are the four types, okay, the Grays, the Nordics, the Insectoids, and the Reptilians. Okay? And so if you're only listening to this podcast on Apple, you're gonna want to like go to the YouTube version or the Spotify version because it's crazy. But so, yeah, it's the Grays, the Nordics, the Insectoids, and the Reptilians, all of whom that they've pulled from UFOs that have been found. So, like recovery missions from what? From UFOs that? I guess, I don't know. Fell out of the sky like a coconut tree. Dr. Davis is claiming that each alien species has two arms, legs, and a humanoid appearance. It's crazy. So first is the Nordics. And the Nordics are a race of like, highly human like, creatures who despite. Oh, sorry, spilled my coffee. That's the aliens doing their voodoo magic to be like, don't talk about us, don't expose us. But so anyway, the Nordics, so despite being from far flung planets, they closely resemble people of northern Europe here on planet Earth. Okay, crazy, crazy, crazy. So these are. So if you look at the, the, I guess the chart that shows like what they could potentially look like based off of how they're described. The Nordic, like, it looks like a white dude from like Iceland. Right? The Nordics, it's humanoid and so it looks like a human. So for all we know, you could be like, maybe this is why Chelsea Handler hates straight white men, because she knows that they're secretly Nordics. Maybe when she went to that dinner with Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew and was it Woody Allen, that when she went to that dinner at Epstein's house, that that's where she learned about aliens. But isn't that crazy? It looks like, like a guy from Scandinavia with the long blonde hair, he's super pale. And so that's, that's apparently an alien from somewhere else. Okay, so that's the first type of alien. Then we have the reptilians. You know, there are all the rumors, like some celebrities are like secretly like lizards. I wonder if it has to do with like this style of alien. But so reptilians, it says that they're scaly skinned lizard like creatures with human limbs, long toe or long tails. They walk upright. And experts in the field speculate that this is what they look like. Like they look like. And this is the second one to the, to the right. It looks like a giant, like lizard, like a dinosaur kind of creature. Which is weird. None of the two, the reptilian and the Nordic are not what I have expected. But both of them are over six feet. So maybe like Lamar Odom could be one of them. Like basketball players. The Reptilians have reptilian features. Well, no shit. Highly intelligent, strong and resilient and have advanced technology. The Nordics are human. Like have a human like appearance. Also advanced intelligence, peaceful nature, and highly advanced in society. Interesting. What about like Elon Musk? Do we think Elon Musk could be like a Nordic? Crazy. Okay, next we have the Grays. Okay, the Grays are small. This is what I think we traditionally think of with like an alien. Like, this is like E.T. they're small, massive eyed, hairless creatures, classically depicted in films such as Close encounter of the third kind. Or like E.T. i would say this is like the most E.T. e.T. Phone home. Like the big eyes, the weird shaped head. They're like little and they're like, we, welcome to your planet. They're usually smaller, 4 to 5ft, large black eyes, great complexion, slender builds. Also have advanced technology. And then this is the last alien species that they've discovered. They're called insectoids. And they're bug like humanoids, sometimes referred to as mantids because they resemble a praying mantis. Interesting. And so they typically six to seven feet, large, compound eyes, highly agile, excellent eyesight, telepathic abilities. Interesting. Crazy. Elon is from Mars. Steve who? Steve Busimi. Gray is our best bet. Winning the hand. Winning hand to hand combat? Yeah. Oh, like with us hand? Yeah. The Grays are our. Our best bet. If we had to fight them, I don't think we could fight the mantis. We definitely cannot fight the reptilian and the Nordic, although, you know, peaceful in nature. I don't know if we would be able to take him out if he's, you know, 7ft tall. See, everybody agrees Elon is definitely an alien. I mean, highly intelligent. Have you watched Alien Resident? They talk about them too. Do they have the same ones? My sister is, when we call her Reptilia. Lovely Peter Thiel. Did they get some bad and some good? I don't know. We don't know. Like, were they alive? Are they being experimented on? Like, I don't know. Elon won't say he's not an alien, so. Good point. Libby says I can't with this shit. If we were worthy, they would have already shown themselves. I think what it is is we're not worthy. That's why they haven't shown themselves. So my understanding of what they've discovered. And again, I don't know if these are lie alive or like, if they're like people that technology went down, they crashed, they're found dead. Like, I don't really know. But to your point, I think they have come to our planet and they're just like, oh, what the. Like what? They're fighting over pronouns. Like, they're like this. Like, why are we gonna deal with these losers? They're literally crying about using a they them pronoun. They're just like, this low vibration is not Worth our time. Libby says, Zach, how do you rectify your faith with a belief in aliens? Oh, that's a really good question, Libby. How do I rectify my faith as a Christian with my belief in aliens? I don't know if aliens are real. I do think that it's within the realm of possibility. Right. Like when you look at an ant, like an ant is like in this teeny, tiny. It's this teeny tiny creature and there's this whole, like an ant doesn't even know that space exists. Right. So I just think, think within our concept of Earth and life here on Earth, I think there are just other things that we don't fully know, understand, or, you know, I think aliens can be real, but I also understand that, like, some people that are very religious believe that aliens are demons. Right. They think that they're demons coming in different forms. You know, listen, I'm not here to judge anybody. I'm just, you know, I keep an open, an open mind. But at the end of the day, I still, you know, think Jesus is king. I believe in God, I love the universe, all those things. You know, I'm still very spiritual at my core. God is the all knowing, not us. There's so much more we don't know or don't need to know. Thank you, Amber. Yeah, I think that's. That's where I stand. God could make aliens. Yeah. I think it's absolutely possible that God has created other species beyond humans. And I do think that there's a narcissistic element for us to believe that we're the only creatures in all of the existence. I believe. I don't know. God probably has multiple little planets or ecosystems with, you know, God is large and in charge. Yes. That's funny. I told my husband. Do you think Hollywood created the resident alien show to prepare us for aliens? And here we are. In high school, I had a teacher that told me that not just when it comes to aliens, but told me that Hollywood would often do things like that, that they would present us with ideas to see how humans would respond to them, to see if and when humans would be ready to accept the reality that's been discovered. They are definitely in the ocean. Oh, like Atlantis. Remember that? The secret, the lost city of Atlantis. Biblical angels coming from the skies, possibly, but also people say demons too. Zack. Snow White actress is a short reptilian and her jaw motions. I was expecting her tongue to pop out. Oh, what's her name? Rachel Zegler. Good question. Well, sometimes in theology, people question if God or appearances are aliens because they come from the sky in a cloud. Yeah, it's called silent consent. Consent. DAC, TV, radio programming. I believe a lot of UFOs people are seeing are just tech in the public. Tech that the public doesn't know about. Yeah, possibly. But it sounds like there are also researchers that are specific, you know, specifically here to look into extraterrestrial beings. Good answers. Act. Because I know you love the Lord. I do. I just also think that there are things that we just as basic humans don't fully know or understand or can't fully conceptualize, but that doesn't in any way sway or question my faith or devotion. I've seen UFOs twice in my life, and yes, they are in the ocean. Jenny. Jenny tell ya. Sorry, guys. That's her username. Jenny J, E, N, N. I tell. And yeah, Jenny tell ya. Which now sounds like genitalia. Did you know that your. Your username is Genitalia? Like, was that. Please tell me that was intentional. Okay. Okay. Jenny says, yes, she is a genitalia. Spielberg disclosure, Emily Blunt. I'm the first in the Q. Oh, okay. Elizabeth, thank you. Okay, I think that's all I got for you. So there we go. Zach caught it. I did catch it. That's. Ah. All right, that's. That's what I got for you today. I was hoping it was intentional too. Yeah, I was hoping it wasn't, like, mistaken. You, like, accidentally, you're like, oh, my name is Jenny, and I'm gonna tell you some things. Like, oh, Jenny came here to tell you something. And then I'm like, wait, that doesn't. When you put those words together. Yeah. All right, that's what I got for you today. I will send you all the love in the clerb, the lurve in the club, and I will talk to you guys tomorrow. Tomorrow is Wednesday. If you are a member of no Filter All Access, then just know no Filter All Access, you can join us for our zoom tomorrow. No Filter All Access is where you get regular episodes of no Filter all throughout the week with absolutely no ads. Zero ads. No live reads, no programmatic advertising on YouTube or wherever else you get no ads. On Supercast, you get fewer ads. If you sign up for Spotify Premium, which you can watch the podcast in full video episodes on Spotify Premium. So be sure to go on Spotify. 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