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We're talking about Brandon Skinar, we're talking about Isabella, we're talking about Jenny, we're talking about all these other people and all these other players. But we haven't talked about Hasan, who was equally, you know, a main, well, I guess more of a supporting role in the movie, but still a pretty prominent role in the movie. But so December 15th, which I believe is next Tuesday, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, December 15th is Monday. So that is when Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni's legal teams will have to come together and see if they can reach a settlement. This is standard procedure. It's highly unlikely that they're coming out of that meeting saying that they are going to settle. I don't think Baldoni is going to want to do it. I don't think Blake's going to want to do it. I think they both have to go to trial in order to have. At this point, none of us want a settlement. We, we all need this to go to trial so that we all get answers, we all get closure and we can all move on from this. None of us want this to not go to trial. We don't want a settlement at this point. We're moving forward. We're all on board. Just no more delays. But I understand why the judge is like, can you guys please, please just settle this dispute, Be done with it. So these, there are two Chances that this case can completely end. That's on this upcoming. That's next week's meeting with the settlement negotiations, and then that's the January 22nd meeting where the judge will make a decision on. Or he'll at least hear the arguments for the motion for summary judgment from Justin Baldoni. There's a chance that he will throw out some of the claims. There's a chance that he may throw out the case altogether. There's a chance he may say, you know what? Blake Lively, green light. Let's take all to trial. We will see what he ultimately decides. My ears cringe every time I hear both, both, both, both, both. Why? Why both, both, both, both. Why does that make your ears cringe? We will sue Blake Lively if they get a settlement. I mean, listen. Yeah, we need closure and fake Blake exposure. Yeah. I just feel like there's. That had to have been dug up in discovery at this point that, you know, is either going to prove her case or it's going to completely crumble and tank her case. Blake needs to throw out to save. Needs to throw it out to save Blake. I don't know if that helps Blake. I mean, she could then say, like, oh, my God, the system. Like, they. The system doesn't believe in women. Um, but I mean, listen, I think she's better off if her case gets dismissed rather than going to trial, because when trial happens, that's when it gets messy. Think about it. There's so much that I'm sure has already been turned over in discovery that we haven't had access to. All the redactions and the depositions. Like, all of that stuff, I'm sure has already been sifted through. And everybody knows all the skeletons. Everybody knows everybody's weak points. And now with this going, once it goes into trial, all of that comes out. Like the Diddy stuff. Remember, even in the Diddy trial, where we heard, like, these big stories, if he blew up, you know, he blew up the guy's car, and then we see that it was like a. It was like one of those little homemade. What are they called? Why. Why is my brain not working this morning? We have all mentally suffered because of her. I mean, truly, we are exhausted. We are truly exhausted. But once the evidence comes together, once the depositions become unsealed, you can't seal everything forever. So I think best case scenario for Blake, the judge throws out her lawsuit. It seems like a win for Beldoni. She can cry that, you know, the. The system is rigged against her. The judge was unfair the judge was biased. She can make all those arguments and pout and scream. But I think if this goes to trial, and here's the other part of it. If it goes to trial, I'm sure there's going to be some bad crap about Justin that's going to come out as well, some embarrassing stuff, some stuff that maybe doesn't make him look good, but that's just what a trial is. Look at Johnny Depp and Amber. Heard that trial was messy. Molotov cocktail. Thank you so much. That's what I was thinking of. They threw the Molotov cocktail in the car, and it, like, you know, burned the seat. But it wasn't like a full car explosion. Like, we were led to believe that it was in the Diddy trial. But anyway, my point being, there's a lot that comes out, and it looks ugly and it looks messy, and everybody looks bad. You know, Everybody looks bad. The best case scenario is that the judge dismisses the case after the January 22nd hearing. He's like, listen, this does not need to move to trial. This is ridiculous. This is a waste of the court's time. Blake, sorry, your case is dismissed. Beldoni, sorry. It is what it is. She's never going to apologize. I think we want the trial, but you also have to remember we're not going to see the trial. We're going to have to go through, you know, whatever the court reporters are gonna share about the trial. So we'll have to see. We shall see. I hope Lyman unseals everything before the winter break, so I got a lot of juicy scoops to go over. I hope so, too. I don't know if he will. I don't know how much. I mean, I don't know how much. The ceiling is beneficial to the judge's ruling on the motion for summary judgment, but we'll see who pays the legal fees if it gets kicked out. Well, if I believe if Blake's case gets thrown out, then Justin can then fight for his legal fees to be recuperated by Blake because the case was ultimately dismissed. That's what I believe. We're seeing Blake Lively try to do with the dismissal of Beldoni's case, is trying to have him cover her. Her or the Wayfarer parties cover her legal fees in his defamation suit that got thrown out. I wish we could just see the trial. I wish we could see the trial as well. I wish we could live stream it. I would be all about that life. He won't. He'll probably dismiss it. Before we get to see anything. That's what I'm thinking. I think it's highly unlikely that the judge is going to publicly unseal anything before a decision is made. And again, if he really is trying to protect Blake or whatever the case may be, I know some people think that Lyman is blatant bought or biased or whatever. If that really is the case, then I think he's gonna do everything he can to protect Blake. But we'll see. Okay, let's take a quick ad break, and then I want to get into Hasan, because the Hasan, it ends with us. Like, there's something about that that I was doing a little deep dive into him this morning, and I'm surprised at how much he's been able to get out of. Out of this, like, completely unscathed, which to me is just super bizarro. So I don't know. I don't know if you guys are even familiar with him. He's like, he's a comedian. And I just. I don't know. I have feelings. I have questions about Hasan, but one thing I do not have questions about, but I do have lots of good feelings about is Wayfair. Wayfair, they got just what I need. So you guys know the holiday season is among us. It's here. And you can get what you need fast with Wayfair from bedding, linens, decor, anything you need for some last minute guest prep. If you have family coming over, if you have your mother in law coming over, you can refresh your guest bedroom and hope she doesn't judge you because you can even tailor it to maybe fit some of her style. I don't know. Whatever floats your boat. 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He was on. He was in it. It ends with us. He played Marshall. So he was the husband of Jenny Slate and he also played Justin Baldoni's friend, friend slash brother in law. Because Jenny Slate played Hassan's brother. Yeah, Jenny played Hassan's brother. And so he. Or, sorry, Jenny played Baldoni's brother and she was married to Hassan. So Marshall was Ryle's friend slash brother in law. And we've seen Hassan. He's been, you know, he was. He did the press tour, he watched the carpet. He posted in the group photo of Blake Lively at the premiere of events with us, had a relatively prominent role in the film. Right. Well, I have some questions because I was digging into him. I was like, we really haven't heard much from him. And he was the only cast member that did not immediately unfollow Justin Baldoni after the rest of the cast did, following their hangout with Blake Lively. So there was a dinner in June that they all went to. They went to Carboni in New York. And it appears that that was kind of the dinner that persuaded or influenced the cast to. To really distance themselves or take a step back from Baldoni. That production was done for the film back in February. So you know them all getting together. This seems like another all hands meeting. Hasan was there, Isabella was there. Brandon Sklenar was there. So it was just interesting that Blake decided to host this dinner with everybody. And then suddenly, as the premiere gets closer and June, correct me if I'm wrong, live chat, June is around the time that they were finishing up the edit. Or that's when they were in the editing phase. Right. Wasn't that when she, like, tried to push herself into the editing room and then there were disputes over the edit and then eventually she kind of took over the film from there. It was around then. So it appears that Blake may have, this is my own conjecture, taken them to dinner, planted some seeds. And then eventually, because remember, the cast collectively unfollowed Justin Baldoni. And that was ahead of the premiere in August. August. Now, Hasan was the only cast member from It Ends With Us to not unfollow Justin Baldoni at that time. So even there were. So there was all the drama that came out of It Ends With Us. That's in about August of 2024. The Internet starts to hate Blake Lively. Then we get go from August to September and then October. That's when Hasan finally breaks the silence on the drama that went down on It Ends With Us. And he doesn't appear to have said anything negative. Right. The most that he said, and this came before the lawsuit, this is in October. He started making headlines because he finally addressed it but all he really said was that his experience on the set of it ends with us. Like, everybody was professional. He didn't witness any of these crazy things or these crazy allegations that we're now hearing about. That's just. He did not have that experience. And according to Hasan, everything was fine. I didn't know about this dinner thing. Yeah, it appears that there was this dinner. I remember seeing, like, clips and photos, and then I saw paparazzi photos, and I didn't realize Hasan was at that dinner until I saw the photos of Hasan with Blake Lively walking down the street at that dinner, which to me, was interesting. Hold on. I have the exact date right here. Because they didn't really do. They didn't do any press together. I think they did, like, a couple of, like, cast collective, like, interviews. Like, you know, they do those buzzfeed ones. Okay, so they were last. So this. The dinner was June 28th. It was a dinner in NYC. Greenwich Village. Yeah, Greenwich Village. And they went to Carboni for dinner, and then they took the cast photos together. Yep. So that was June 28, which appears to be. Maybe they were at dinner. Maybe she paid for everybody. And then. I mean, that is the theory that she poisoned the cast against Baldoni. But for whatever reason, like, Sklinar seemed to distance himself. Isabella distanced. Jenny clearly didn't like him. But Hasan was the only cast member that stood by him. And so come October, he says everybody was professional in his experience on set. Didn't have any issues, didn't see any issues. Okay. He's like, I don't want part of any of this drama. Then fast forward to December of 2024. December 9th is when Justin Baldoni got that award, the Voices of Solidarity award, which was for allies that are supporting women. And. And I didn't realize Hassan was the one that presented Justin Baldoni with that award. And that was December 9th. So November seemed to have been a dead month for the most part. Like, we didn't get any major headlines. The public backlash on Blake Lively kind of died down because it was really only in August that there was all of this negative chatter about Blake Lively. Some of it dipped into September, but I would say come November, it started to really settle down. Right. October. November starts to settle down. Interestingly enough, October is the last time, I believe, Blake Lively was spotted with Taylor Swift. So it's interesting because Taylor didn't have any sort of involvement in the promotion of events with us. I don't believe she even shared it or anything, even though her song was featured in it, I don't believe. Did Taylor Swift promote It Ends With Us? Let's see. Because she wasn't at the premiere, arguably she was on tour. Yeah. Chat. GBT says Taylor Swift did not publicly promote It Ends With Us as part of the official marketing. The way she might have promoted her friends projects on social media channels or in interviews. She did not participate in impress interviews or social media posted posts that promote the film. Her. Her team has stated that she had no creative role on the film, did not act in it, did not help produce it, and did not even see the film until after its release. Her only connection was licensing her song My Tears Ricochet. It's interesting because she always is very, very supportive of other people's projects. This is one project she did not publicly endorse or support. So something. I know she was on tour, I know she was busy. But something happened because it appears that by October, Blake Lively and Taylor Swift, that's the last time, I believe they were seen together publicly going out to dinner. And after that, I'm wondering if whatever conversation she had with the rest of the cast back in June, if maybe that was some of the things that she was trying to influence with Taylor as well. And maybe Taylor didn't want to bite. I don't. I don't know. The Taylor piece is still so kind of up in the air for me. But anyway, sorry to get back to Hasan. Just to recap the timeline. Has dinner with Blake Lively at the end of June. It ends with us premieres, does some promos, does the group photo with everybody except Baldoni. Blake Lively gets ripped apart on the Internet. Then we get fast forward to December, and in December 9, that is when Hasan goes and gives Justin Baldoni the Voices of Solidarity award. This is the award that was later rescinded because later in December is when Blake Lively dropped the CRD complaint and the New York Times published it. And that's when, or I always say dropped. But then people remind me like dropped, when you drop the lawsuit, that means you, you withdraw it. So I always accidentally use that term. That's when Blake Lively filed her CRD complaint and then it immediately was published in the New York Times. And so that's when the award gets rescinded from Justin Baldoni. And it appears that this is also when Hassan puts. Pulls back his support of Justin Baldoni as well. But the interesting thing too is he stuck by Justin Baldoni all throughout the press tour. He didn't do any press with him, but he. And so much so that at this ceremony where he's getting honored, this award for being a champion for women. Hassan is the one that presents Beldoni with the ward. And Baldoni calls Hassan his soul brother. So it seems they did have some sort of strong bond or connection. And I also to point out, Hasan was the only one that did not unfollow Justin Baldoni when the rest of the cast collectively unfollowed Justin Baldoni. But I looked as of this morning, and as of Thursday, December 11, 2025, Hasan has unfollowed Justin Baldoni. So it's unclear of when that happened. Apparently it happened, I believe, after the lawsuit came out publicly and Blake Lively lodged this legal war against Justin Baldoni. But the interesting thing is Hasan is still following Blake Lively. He does not follow Justin Baldoni, his sole brother, but he does follow Blake Lively. He also doesn't follow Brandon, Isabella, Jenny. It doesn't appear that either of them are people that he's kept running his life either. So it's all very confusing to me. Unclear why he unfollowed him. Let's see. Dot Bo says maybe Hassan didn't unfollow him initially because he wanted to draw his own conclusion. And something happened after he got the award. Possibly. Possibly. But, like, he's. In October, he said that, you know, the experience on set was nothing but professional. He didn't have anything negative to say about Baldoni. I don't know. It's just. It's interesting, right? But to this day, he still follows Blake Lively. That's. That's the interesting part. So, yeah, he said that he was, like, actually surprised by the beef between Justin Blake that was circulating in the press. But, yeah, appears to have gone to that Carboni dinner in June, which is where the cast appeared to have unfollowed him right before the premiere in August. So I don't know if he. It seems he was presented with some of the same information that the rest of the cast was, but wasn't so keen to immediately ice out Baldoni. And then the lawsuit dropped. And I think that's when. Or the lawsuit became public, and that's when it looks like Hassan may have jumped ship and flipped to the other side or at least distanced himself from Beltoni. To be fair, if he didn't witness anything, I think this is where Brandon Skinnar really screwed up. Or maybe not, because now he's getting, you know, all these movie opportunities thanks to Blake Lively. But I think Hassan wanted to come to his own conclusion. Didn't see anything with his own eyes. So if that was Blake Lively's experience, he didn't want to diminish or take away her experience from her, if it truly was her experience. And so he just wanted to see it play out. And then when she brought forth all of the allegations and then the smear campaign and she said she was very confident, she's like, we have evidence. The New York Times, like, we reviewed thousands of pages of evidence. I would love to see these thousands of pages of evidence, because if the New York Times so easily got access to them, then there should be no dispute, right? There should be no issue. But Blake Lively's out here saying, well, I can't finish my investigation into the smear campaign because, you know, they haven't given us all the information that we need or want. When it's like. But you already said that you had all of this evidence. You had enough evidence. Thousands of pages that was provided to the New York Times. That evidence was already, you know, vetted through the New York Times. So where is that? You should have already had access to that and turned that over. I don't know. I don't know. But I just found that interesting. And I wasn't entirely sure how to feel about Hassan. I still don't know how to feel about Hasan. Do we even care about Hasan? I just want to know where he stands. We know where Jenny stands. We know where Brandon stands. We now know where Isabella apparently stands. They're all pissed. I mean, maybe Hassan is the smartest one because we aren't really talking about him. He. His career doesn't really seem to be affected by this. He's kind of just like, chilling in the shadows and being like, I want no part of any of this drama, you know? Has anyone speculated. Unsealing of Blake's text messages and emails. Has anyone speculated about. I mean, we're all. We all have speculation around what could be in the text and the emails. I think we all want those to be unredacted at some point. We all want those to be unsealed at some point. But I don't know if anybody has speculated. Are you saying speculate what may be in them? I'm pretty sure I can tell you what may not be in them. And that's allegations of harassment, at least not during the set. I don't know. We don't care about Hasan at all. That's just what he has to do. He moved on with his life, or, yeah, is at least trying to. But he was smart. He didn't make any, like, Jenny slay And Brandon Skinar both publicly supported Blake at the beginning of it. And then I feel like now they're left with egg on their face because I think now they look like total fools because they were played by Blake. I want to see Blake's deposition. I want to see Blake's deposition as well. I want to see all of their depositions. I want to read all of it. We probably never will, I believe. Oh, did Justin unfollow Hasan? Interesting. Let's see if just. Who's Justin? Who? Justin is still following. Let's see. I don't think he unfollowed anyone, to be honest with you. Okay. Justin Peloni following. Oh, he's following Jennifer Abel. He's following. Okay. Hassan still follows Hassan. Okay. Interesting. Wow. Justin Baldoni still, to this day follows Blake Lively. That is hysterical. He's still, to this day, Justin Baldoni is following Blake Lively. That's crazy. He is still following Brandon Skinar. He is still following Jenny Slate. Wow. He still follows all of them. Interesting. I guess unfollowing is just not his style. Interesting. I had no idea. Wow. Justin still follows all. Yeah, because Justin is not petty. I think he's allowed to unfollow them now. I think he genuinely unfollows them now or has, like, full reason to unfollow them now. Let's see. Does Jamie Heath follow any of them? Jamie Heath. Jamie Heath is still following Blake Lively. Interesting. He does not follow Brandon Skinar. He does follow Jenny Slate. He does not follow Hassan. He still follows Ryan Reynolds. Wow. Interesting. Now I'm curious. Why. Why still follow Ryan Reynolds and not follow Brandon Skinnar? Why follow Jenny Slate and not follow Hasan? Interesting. Is it true that Blake lively only worked 16 days on the movie? Yes, I just discussed that. So, I mean, come on. And even, like, the smear campaign, if you look at the timeline of everything, it appears that tag pr. I mean, I guess Jennifer. Yeah, Jennifer Abel was Baldoni's publicist before she left Jones work. But then it seemed like when they brought on tag, like, the scope was so limited. I believe the contract was until November. But they really seem to have worked during the promotion of the film, which was only a couple of weeks. So it's like, how much, like, the timelines just don't make sense. The. The amount of time that people spent working on these things, like, none of it makes sense to me. Also, how crazy is it that Blake Lively was only on set for 16 days and yet she was able to push her PGA mark out? It's crazy. Aviva says he created man enough for a reason. He's into growth and change. Everyone could learn and grow from Justin Baldoni. I agree. Listen, I don't know if he would ever give it to me. I would love to do a sit down interview once this is all done to do like a real one hour sit down interview with. With Beldoni. Ask the important questions and really get into it. Isaac says, what would you do if you were Hassan Zach? I think that you would be team Blake in another timeline. He's a fake feminist, guys. Believe me, that's a really good question. I don't know. I would have to be on that set and experience and look and see for myself. Right? I don't know. That would be a really, really hard position for. For me to be in. I don't know if I would fall for Blake's charm, though. I'm pretty good at seeing through fake people and not buying into them and letting them show me their real colors and. And basing. I think I would probably play it very similarly to Hassan. Just try to stay under the radar with that focus on other projects. Just try to scrub my name of anything related to the movie. And. And I think Hassan played it the smartest, to be honest with you. I'd love for you to interview. I would love that. Listen, I don't know if that would ever happen. I. But I also am like, well, it's not like he could really do a mainstream interview. Like, the mainstream press was so unfair to him. And I don't know. I'm sure they would all jump and bite at the opportunity for that, but I don't. I don't think he would. I think the coffee cake says, I think my problem wouldn't be Blake. It would be her friend, her friends group, and I'd want to get to know. Interesting. So you're persuaded by celebrities. Aviva says, I like the idea, Zach, 1 million percent. Which idea? Of me interviewing Justin. I would love to interview again. I don't. I don't know. I don't think he ever would, but I also don't. I think he would probably do his own man Enough podcast, sit down thing. I don't know if he would give an interview to anyone else. I doubt he would. I doubt he would be in Baha'. I. Zach knows what BS and can see through the smoke and mirrors. 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And then, you know, she kind of like really slimmed out with Ozempic. And then now recent photos of Kelly Osbourne look really, really bad. Like she just looks so gaunt and so sick and everybody's like, oh my God, she's not eating. Oh my God, she's not Ozempic. Lay off the Ozempic. She looks sick, she looks this, she looks that. And she does like, let's be honest, so does Sharon Osbourne. But let's be clear, they looked like this before Ozzy Osbourne passed away. But she's clapping back. Sharon Osbourne was just on Piers Morgan uncensored and they addressed this, addressed the feedback about Kelly and her weight loss, right? And you can see in these photos here, like, her face just looks really sunken in. She looks very gaunt. I think these are the most recent photos. She's wearing very heavy clothing or very like overflowy clothing, probably to not look as skinny as she does, to kind of hide the bones. But it just, I mean, I get it. Her whole thing, she came back and she said, you know, fuck off, I'm. My dad just died, I'm grieving. And I get that, right? Like when you're grieving, you. Your body physically takes on a toll as well. And so I think it was just, it's. She's going through a lot. But I also, we cannot deny that this is also very concerning. This level of weight loss is alarming and we can't just ignore that. Like, she doesn't look healthy. And I think we have to be able to call that out, especially now as the culture is really getting super ozempified and people are really abusing the Ozempic and they're getting so, so so, so, so, so, so skinny. And I think it's getting a little crazy dangerous. And I think we just need to be more mindful of that because it's not healthy. I think Kelly looks heartbroken. I think she's going through a lot right now. I don't disagree. Same for Ariana Grande. Yeah. It kind of seems to be a trend in Hollywood right now. I was hearing about reports about Ariana, and I don't know if they're true or not about her wanting to cancel her tour or she's at least scaling back her tour and how the press tour for Wicked is really taking a toll on her physically and, like, I would imagine she's, like, withering away. She's so skinny. Cynthia Orevo. So skinny. Like people. Madam Madame Marble. Flip it around. Wicked Witch. Even Wicked Witch is looking pretty wicked herself with her skin and bones. So it's just crazy town. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Mirror says the grief of losing her dad has caused Kelly's health to. To decline. She says she can't eat. So sad. Whatever is going on with her, I agree. But also, we can't just be like, all right, let's leave her. Like, this is cause for concern. This is where I think her family should step in and be like, listen, we need to get you some help, because this isn't healthy. It's not healthy. And my heart breaks for her. I mean, trust me, I know grief, and it's not. It's not fun. And it really is hard to navigate. In other news, maybe some more positive news. Taylor Swift just appeared on Colbert. Oh, Colbert. We love Colbert. Congrats to Colbert. He's amazing. He's the best thing ever. He's a freedom speak, a free speech, freedom fighter, whatever. So Taylor was just on Colbert. Good for her and good for Colbert. And on it is where she says for the first time, she's like. She calls Travis Kelsey the love of her life. I think Taylor looks great. I think she. I mean, she always kind of looks great. Lately, I feel like her style has really been polished. Like, this is like when she was doing, like, the cutesy kind of girl and the hats and the cats and all of that stuff, like, whatever. But, like, now this is more. This feels more celebrity Hollywood, you know, regal. She's a star, right? Like, she was obviously a star before. She's an incredible artist and a talented performer and a great songwriter. Katie says Taylor Swift fatigue has hit me. It is kind of a lot, and I feel like, do this fine. Well, she's promoting her new docu series, which I believe debuts tonight, right on Hulu. I want to watch it. It's 10 parts, but I'll watch it. And so, yeah, I. Good for her. I mean, she seems happy. I think they're gonna go all the way to the end. Whether this is fake or whether this is real, her relationship with Travis, fake or real, I think it's going the distance, at least for the foreseeable future. She's also a very smart businesswoman, and I think she knows she'll know when it's time to divorce him. She'll know when, you know, the marriage is no longer good for her brand. People are still into them. People still like them. People still want to root for them to make it down the aisle. They're still the power couple of Hollywood. So I think she will keep that going as long as it's beneficial to her. And then when it's beneficial for her to write a divorce album, she's gonna come out with some bangers and people are gonna love it. So that's my advice to Travis. Kelsey is be very good to Taylor because if she decides to cut you, she will do what she did to Scooter Braun. She'll flip the narrative. She'll turn herself into the victim. She'll write some music about it. She'll get her fans to rally around her. She's very smart, I think very manipulative, but very smart. But she looks great. And she, you know, according to Taylor, has found the love of her life. But I just know it's not going to end well for Travis Kelce. Hit the like button, guys. If you're watching this right now on YouTube, hit the like. If you're live streaming it, we live stream weekday mornings, Monday Through Friday on YouTube and then the videos go up on Spotify, the audio goes up on Apple, all other podcast platforms. So continue to, like, subscribe. Hit the buttons. All the buttons. All the like, all the nice buttons. Leave the reviews and I'll do the shout outs. Actually, let's see if we got any fun Spotify comments. See if we got anything good on the Splitify. Okay, let's see yesterday's Rachel. Oh, Rachel was talking about Vanderpump Rules, which I guess we can move on to in a sec. Rachel Swaney on Spotify says, I feel like the new cast, they're trying to recreate a lot of moments from season one of Vanderpump Rules to going to get spray tans. I think they mentioned at sir, the photo shoots will come up eventually and it feels like setting themselves up for failure with those scenes in season 12 that don't live up to how iconic they used to be in the early seasons. Yeah. How many people are realistically going to the spray tan boots? Right. Like, a lot of people just use the foams that you buy at Target and you do, you know, or they use body makeup. Like, body makeup is the new thing, too. I agree, Rachel. It feels very, very. Try hard. Debbie says, you really brought up so many great points about the transition to the new show of Vanderpump Rules. I'm glad I'm still going to watch it, because I love zoning out to reality shows, and I just turned 60, and I love everything. Bravo's been there from the very beginning with every show on there. Well, good for you, Debbie. Listen, you do you. Kailyn says, I love you and Stu doing podcast episodes together. So do I. Yes, yes, yes, I know. Everybody is loving. Is loving what I'm cooking up with Stu lately. See? Okay. And then on the trial getting postponed, this was some of your reactions on Spotify. Colette said, I would still dislike Blake. I would dislike her an incy, teeny bit less if she dropped the lawsuit. Alicia says this case has hijacked my favorite podcast. Please, I cannot listen to this until May. Trust me, I don't want to be talking about this. I. Until May. But this is just where we're at. This is the number one story right now. Until it's done, we're going to be talking about it. But when it comes to Vanderpump Rules and Bravo, because I saw Andy Cohen came out, and he was like, oh, my God, don't pay attention to those live ratings. They're not real. Like, they don't mean anything. He came out on radio, Andy, and he's like, I don't get why people are making such a big fuss about the live ratings. Because I said yesterday, and it came from Bravo ratings, that Vanderpump Rules had, like, a total atomic bomb of a premiere, which it did. Even if, like, let's. Let's. Let's call it out here now, right? Even if you want to say that live viewers. Because what? Vanderpump rules season 12. This premiere brought in 229,000. 229,000. That's nothing. Literally nothing. One of the worst premieres on Bravo recently. But not only that, because Andy wants to be like, well, everybody watches everything on Peacock now. Like, those. Those views don't even matter anymore. Everybody watches everything on. On dvr. Like, nobody watches live TV anymore. Well, that's actually not true, because if you look at the ratings across the board for every other show beyond Vanderpump Rules last week, which was the premiere, they. They all performed fine except for Vanderpump Rules. Okay? Vanderpump Rules brought in less than 300,000. 229,000 live views is all. Is all it brought in. But when Vanderpump Rules is at its peak, it was bringing in over 2 million, which was not. Which was the Scandal. Right? And then the season following Scandal still was breaking a mill, still still had a 1 million average for the season. 200. Oh, it's. Sorry. 299, not 229. That was my mistake. 299 million views. So still less than 300 million. That is very, very, very low. You know how low that is? It was lower than Watch what Happens Live, guys. It got less views than Watch what Happens Live. Don't tell me that's just because everybody went to go watch it on Peacock. No, they didn't. Don't lie to us. Here's the thing. Just admit that, like, if Andy would have gone on the radio and said, listen, guy, like, I'm tired of giving them advice they're not going to listen to. If Andy had just owned it and been like, listen, guys, it's new, and I understand that it's going to take a minute to win some people over, but trust me, the show gets better. Trust me. And then behind the scenes, start to strategize the shit out of how you're going to try to get people hooked onto the show. But to go on the radio and then lie to our faces and tell us that the show was not the atomic bomb that it obviously was, you can tell it was an atomic bomb because there's virtually zero positive footprint about Vanderpump Rules on social media. Nobody. Like when I was talking about Stranger Things, like everybody was going and posting their theories about Stranger Things, Next Gen actually got a lot of buzz, a lot of positive buzz when that premiere. Next Gen NYC Special Forces. Like, there are a number of shows that are causing Dancing with the Stars, causing buzz online. Vanderpump Rules did nothing. Nothing. Any comments that you got about them were mediocre at best. And there were very few of them. The only people. Let's call this out. The only people that had nice things to say about the Vanderpump Rules reunion or premier were the influencers that were invited to the party at sir and they came to take selfies with Lisa Vanderpump Those are the only people that you're actually seeing proactively post nice things about this reboot. It's just not landing. You're not getting a ton of headlines from it. You're not getting a bunch of social engagement from it. You're not getting a bunch of reshares on social media from it. It's a flop. It's a bomb. You have to own it, at least acknowledge it. But. But, like, have faith that maybe you can hook the audience down the line. But to double down and to go on the radio and to lie in our faces is just so disrespectful to your audience and just such a bummer because it's so obvious. And listen. Listen to yesterday's episode because I lay it all out, how this was doomed from the start, what they could have done better, you know, other key ways that they could have engaged the old cast with the new cast. Like, they had one of the new cast members come on Lala's podcast. And I love Lala, but I'm just like, that's not gonna move the needle. Like, it just. We're not stupid. And I think when you treat the audience like they're dumb, then, like, you end up losing the audience. Like, I don't want to trash this show, but when you lie in my face and tell me that my critique of what an atomic bomb that premiere was and how that's not real and that's not significant because those live numbers don't matter. I'm sorry. When you look at those live numbers, compared to all the other live numbers of every other Bravo show on tv, last week, it was at the bottom. The bottom. Watch what happens Live had better ratings than that Vanderpump rules premiere. Come on. I did not just fall out of a coconut tree. Don't make me feel like an idiot. Because if anything, it just enrages me more to then talk about this more to poke out the hypocrisy even more, you know? Come on, Trent. Bravo says, and Peacock has the after shows, which are just as good. Great. Katie says, who has a Peacock subscription? Well, I have a Peacock subscription. Listen, people are subscribing to Peacock. I don't want to dig or dis. Peacock, like Peacock has become, you know, streaming in general has become where people watch these shows more. And Andy's right. Like, I don't watch live anymore. Really, I don't. It's just not as interesting live anymore. And people just have lives and they're doing other things. They're scrolling on TikTok, which is why I think it's smart that, like, Bravo has started to release clips now. Rather than sitting down and watching a full episode, I'll just watch the clips on social media, on YouTube, on TikTok, on Instagram, whatever. And then I kind of get the gist of what the episode was about. But, yeah, I mean, it's true. Peacock is transitioning. It is. Streaming is becoming the future. But for the sake of transparency, then why don't you guys ever release those numbers? Like, if the numbers were really strong and what Andy was saying was true and Vanderpump Rules was not an atomic bomb, then he would have very easily been able to come out and be like, listen, these are the numbers on Peacock. The network could have come out and done that. They don't want us to see the numbers. I wonder why. Because probably the live viewers are representation of the interest in that new show, Atomic Bomb. Tanya says, I have a subscription in Peacock. It's easier to watch the Housewives on that. No commercials. Yeah, I watch on YouTube TV. That's where I watch. I don't watch on. Well, I mean, I guess, but I usually watch it, like, weeks after the fact. I don't watch it live at all anymore. Andy was right. Attention span and quality content is down. Yeah, I agree. I don't disagree. I can't find Special Forces anywhere. I think it's not available in my sewn. Did Jussie Smollett win or lose? He lost. Jussie Smollett did not win. Gia Giudice and Brianna Chicken Fry Wonder Mary says, I used to love Vanderpump Worlds, but I have no interest now. Again, I laid out all the reasons why people don't have interest in this now. I laid out all the reasons why this was, you know, a flop from the jump from right out the gate when they announced this. Listen to yesterday's episode. I give you my full thesis on it. All right, the unfollowing of Justin Baldoni by Hassan was recent because I remember a couple of months ago that he was still following him. Well, as of this morning, Hassan no longer appears to be following Justin Baldoni, which I think says a lot. I don't know. I don't know what it says, but it says something. All right, guys, I love you. I appreciate you. Have a great rest of your day. Give me a follow. Just means Zach. Follow the podcast, add no filter with Zach, and sign up for no Filter all access if you want ad free episodes. Because I saw you were. You said you were watching Housewives on Peacock because you don't like the ads. Well, you can get ad free episodes of no Filter I on no Filter All Access on Supercast. You can click the link down below. Follow me at Just Me and Zach. Follow the podcast at no Filter with Zach and catch new episodes streaming Monday through Fridays live on YouTube and X. You can watch on Spotify. You can listen on Apple Podcasts. Hit the like button. 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