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What? That's from Variety. Variety had a panel that they hosted with Nancy Grace. And so that is Ms. Nancy Grace. Listen, here's what I will say, because remember, we have explored. We did a whole episode where we explored every possible potential theory from Epstein and Trump putting her in a bunker. And, you know, this being an old lady, a random robbery that preyed on the elderly to the more sadistic theories. But when we do present the family theory, right, and this is not to incriminate the family. I'm not accusing them of anything. But if and when we look at that theory, and while I do have a. A lot of respect for Nancy Grace, it does become challenging when these are people that you know personally, because then I think you judge them from a very different lens. Right. You maybe would cut a couple of corners. And so if all she's giving us is that na. Is that Savannah is just not a fake person. She's just a real girl. She's a real girlfriend. She's Jenny from the block. I'm sorry, Nancy Grace. That's not enough to convince me. But if. If. And this is a total if hypothetical, you know, let's just play with that theory that the family is involved. I've always said that if that theory checks out, what makes the most logical sense to me is that it was likely accidental. Right? It was something that maybe Annie and Tommaso. I don't think Tommaso did this alone. If that is the case. Again, we're totally hypothetical. Maybe we're just exploring that theory. Remember, this show is for entertainment purposes only. I'm not here to defame anybody. I'm not trying to incriminate anybody. We're just playing along with the theory. Right. It would have had to have been Annie and Tommaso together, right? Which would then prejudice Savannah because she's already lost her mother, and now she would have to be throwing her sister under with it. Like that's already traumatizing, Right? So you have to factor in that. I said that if it were the family, it would have likely had to have either been a plan gone wrong or it was an entirely accidental situation. I think I said a heat of the moment situation. Right? We're in the heat of the moment. You know, things got feisty, maybe there was an argument, and then from there, things got carried away, things got out of hand. We had to cover it up because whatever happened to Nancy, we needed to make sure nobody saw because it was bad. Right? So then you factor in Savannah. Right? So whatever happens, the kidnapping, the fake kidnapping, it was staged. It was not staged. Who knows what the man on the porch was doing, why he was there. I mean, a lot of questions about that, especially when you factor in the blood drops, because it's like, well, then why, like, if you did such a good job of not leaving evidence inside the house and you were, you know, making sure you're taking down all the cameras, then you're gonna be sloppy enough to just leave blood drops. And the blood drops conveniently lead outside the house into the driveway. Like, is this dude sloppy or is he smart? Because it doesn't make sense that he's bald. You can't play smart and stupid at the same time. So I'm asking a lot of questions because I'm trying to figure out, like, was this someone that's seasoned or was this an amateur? Right. Okay, so let's just. Let's go with the theory that it was an accident and we had to cover it up, and so we had to, you know, stage this scene. Savannah, I'm sure, didn't know anything. Again, totally hypothetical. I think she possibly may have come. Come to Arizona believing something really bad happened to her mother. And then next thing you know, that was the moment of truth where Annie and Tommaso possibly, if they were. Because as Nancy Grace said herself, you always look at the family first, because it usually is somebody in the family or in inner circle, right? And I said, it's possible that. Think about it. If something accidentally happened to your mother and your sister, who's the caretaker for your mother, comes to you and is like, oh, my God, it was an accident. I fucked up. I screwed up. I didn't mean to. Like, if they come to you in that way, then, like, yeah, you're gonna be a little more reserved. You're not gonna be immediately like, no, I'm turning you into the police. And then you factor in Donald Trump literally goes on. On national TV and says, whoever did this to Nancy Guthrie, you're getting the death penalty. The second Trump said that, I was like, oof. If this is a family member, Savannah is going to fight to the end. I don't think Savannah is protecting Tommaso. I think Savannah is protecting Annie. Now, whether or not Annie's protecting Tommaso, I don't know. That could be a whole other thing. It could have been Tommaso and Annie's covering for him. It could have been Annie and Tommaso and. Or that could be what was presented to Savannah. But when you look at. And this is why I comp it to the JonBenet Ramsey cases, because the theory there is that it was the Brother. I feel like a broken record because I've presented this theory so many times. But it was the brother that they believe or that is believed to have murdered JonBenet. And the parents helped cover it up. And again, you could get away with that shit back in the 90s. But, like, this is 2026. I'm sorry, like, there's no evidence. Like, this is crazy. So I think Nancy Grace's judgment here to immediately dismiss the family and is a little rose colored glasses, right? Like, you wanna see Savannah in a certain way. And so I don't think that Savannah wanted to be a part of this. But then you factor in, okay, this happened to my mother. It was an accident. At the hands of my sister. Right. Hypothetically, possibly playing with this theory. It was at the hands of my sister. It was an accident. I don't wanna lose my sister on top of this. Like, this is going to be tough. My husband happens to be really good at cleaning up messes. He. That was his job with the Clintons. Right? He was a political consultant and he was really good at cleaning up messes. So hubby can help. I know Senator Mark Kelly. He can help. Like we have enough resources to find the lady. Maybe the resources were utilized in a different way. Okay, again, this is only if we are looking at the theory of the family, which it could not be the family at all. This could be a totally fake theory that doesn't amount to anything. I'm just saying it's a theory nobody wants to look at. Right. The sheriff doesn't want to look at it, understandably, Nancy Grace doesn't want to look at it because she has a personal relationship with Savannah. But if we were to play with that, you have a sister to protect, and then you have a reputation to protect and a job to protect. We're seeing based off of the events that we've seen unfold over the last two weeks. Savannah's very much prioritizing her job. At the Today show, there are statements going out saying that she's planning on returning. She's making visits there. There's paparazzi capturing her. The statements are immediately being published in Variety, you know, all making it seem like the job and the care are the priority now when it comes to this world. And when you're on entertainment television, the audience can look at you one of two ways. They can look at you as the sad lady whose mother was never found. And it was just one of those unsolved murders. And it was a mystery, which with every resource, Savannah Guthrie has and in 2026, with modern technology, it's highly unlikely. And it's just really hard for me to believe that with all of the resources you have and the money that you have and, you know, modern technology, that we genuinely have nothing and we're just totally cool accepting that. I don't know. But I'm just saying I can see how if there was an accident that happened and we needed to help cover it up, I can see how Savannah would be sympathetic to those circumstances and would want to protect her remaining family. Right? Her remaining family being Annie and Tommaso and doing everything that she can to protect it, while also remembering I then have a reputation and a job to protect. And like I said, it's a lot easier to go on television and be the lady, the sad lady whose mom was never found, rather than being the lady whose sister was responsible for the mom never being found. That would be crazy. You would judge her through that lens every single time you saw her on television. And then if it happened to come out that this was a fake or staged kidnapping, then that really blows things up even more because then you captured America. You had us all looking for the lady never found the lady. Like I'm just saying, these things sound reasonable. They sound logical. I'm not trying to go off of emotion. I'm not trying to look at things with rose colored glasses. I'm trying to just look at things objectively and logically. Right. How is a sheriff that's been on the. On the field for decades butcher a case this bad? Modern technology and we have nothing. What, gps heart monitor or heart pacemaker connected to Bluetooth? Nothing. Like all of it just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. So I have not ruled out the theory that the family is involved. I know everybody else wants to move on from that theory, but until you have a theory that's presented that actually makes sense with somebody behind bars, doesn't make sense to me. You know, I'm not one to normally buy into a conspiracy theory, but. Well, I mean, I. Well, no, actually, when I have bought into conspiracy theories, they usually do amount to something. So I will say that. So, yeah, this immediately, this immediate dismissal of the family being involved, I think it's still too early to tell. And it's too early to tell because we don't know what happened to her. We don't know what happened to Nancy. They don't have any answers for us. Which brings us to Nana Nana Nanos. And Nana Nana Nanos just went and he says that this old lady snatcher could. Could strike again, and you could be next. Okay. I mean, somebody needs to shut this man up. But that was my piece about Nancy Grace. I just think Savannah has a lot to protect. A sister, a reputation, a career. She has a husband that's very good at cleaning up messes, and she has a Rolodex of people that can help her clean up a mess should there be a need to do so. And when you factor in those three things, sister, the familiar, blood, relative, career, right, that's your paycheck. Got to provide for your kids. And then reputation, three big elements. And then she also has the means to be able to. To execute that with money and with resources. Senator Mark Kelly, the senator in Arizona, can very easily make something go away, can very easily influence a local sheriff. Right? Money could influence a local sheriff. Celebrity could influence a local sheriff, especially one with the big ego that wants to solve the case. Why else gatekeep all the evidence from the FBI? It's just, you know, and again, Tommaso was allegedly the last person to have seen Nancy alive outside of this alleged kidnapper. That we have no evidence that the man that was on the porch ever actually removed Nancy from her home. There's no video footage of it. There's no GPS tracking data of her. Like, it's just. It doesn't make any sense. And again, is this guy smart or is this guy stupid? Because he seemed like an amateur on the porch, but then we're making it seem like he was blocking the Internet and he went in and beat up the box around the corner from Nancy's house, that the Internet would go out at just the right time so they could go in and get out and take the lady. Like, it just. It's way too many coincidental things rather than the most logical thing that happens to be presented right in front of us. And then you look at how Sheriff Nanos is handling this and the lack of, you know, the gatekeeping with the evidence when it comes to the FBI, it's just. It's. It's sus. It's all very sus. I don't know what the answer is. I don't know what happened to her. None of us know what happened to her. None of us know where she's at. Let's be very clear about that. But I'm just saying, when we take a step back and look at things objectively, reasonably. Right. Logically, that theory does make sense to me, in my personal opinion. But let's get into Nanos latest Interview because he sat down with NBC News, and in his latest interview, Nano says, don't think for a minute that because it happened to the Guthrie family, you're safe. Okay. Thank you, Sheriff. Nanos, I feel so good with you leading the case and finding the perpetrator now, because not only did you say it could take you years to solve this case, but now you're saying, don't think you're safe, right? He said it'd be silly to tell people, don't worry about it. You're not his target. You could be like, who gave this man permission to speak? And then he continues by saying, we believe we know why he did this, and we believe that it was targeted, but we're not 100% sure of that. Why? So we think we know, but we don't really know. So be sure to hide your grandma. And you know what? Hide yourself, too. Hide your kids. Hide your wife. They're snatching everybody up out here. Like, what was the point of this interview? Like, Nanos is literally the king of giving us nothing. Like, he truly gives us absolutely nothing. He gives us Hillary less than Hillary Duff gave us on stage of with love when she was dancing. She's like, with love. That viral video on TikTok. She's like, duh. Love, love, love, love. Literally giving us nothing. Like, not even so little as a breadcrumb does Nanos give us. Because the second he gives you a breadcrumb, then suddenly you realize, oh, it's plastic and it's not real bread, okay? It's straight from his Easy Bake Oven, and he was hoping that it looked pretty enough to fool you. I'm not that dumb, Sheriff. Nana. Nana, Nanos, you're gonna have to try a little harder to convince me, okay? I'm not asking for a gluten free slice, but at least give me some real bread. You know, I just. Amy said she was dancing without love, yet she was like, she was literally giving nothing. Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man. Robin says Nanos is an embarrassment. I agree. Bet he sure relieved all the Tucson residents, right? Like, you have all the old ladies that were already scared, and now he's like, watch out. He's still out there. No fucking shit, dumbass. You're the fucking reason he's still out there. Don't come at me and tell me, be safe. Fuck off. I'm tired of his bullshit. I am so sick and tired of this man and all of his stupid interviews that literally give us nothing but just make us more frustrated and confused. Heather said why does he walk back? Literally everything. Everything he gives, he walks it right back. He's Michael Jackson doing the moonwalk. He's like, let me interview. Whoop. Nope. Back. Back it up one time. Right to the left. Slide to the right. Cha cha real smooth. I just. I can't, like, just go in one lane. Just, like, stick, like, just go, take us somewhere. So he's close, but not really. They think they know, but they're not sure. That's the Latest update. Day 41. That's the latest update. They think they know, but they're not really. They don't really know. So, like, you know, be safe. That's basically his message. Cha cha real smooth. Cha cha real smooth. I think we just got. We got lows activated, didn't we? Okay. That said, shall we move on to Blake Lively? Well, before we get to Blake, we do have to talk about one of my favorite meal delivery kits, and that is Factor. Listen, somewhere between the first warm weekend and realizing short season is getting close, eating well stops feeling optional. Am I right? I'm already like, oof, I want to get snatched for summer, right? Well, factor is how I stopped letting a busy schedule be my excuse. Fully prepped meals designed by dietitians and crafted by chefs. Ready in two minutes. 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We love it. Yeah, guys. Which by the way, we have a new episode of the tour tapes that is dropping this Sunday. This Sunday we go to Chicago with Jenny McCarthy. You also get Donna bowling and Chef Stew in the same episode. Now you've had a lot of FaceTimes with Donna in the past episodes. We got to see Stu back in New York last Sunday. Well, this Sunday you get Stu together, you get Donna together. You have the three of us and we are in Chicago. Okay, let's go. And let's talk about Blake Lively because, my dear, she is getting, she is getting shut down. So we have the latest order from the judge where he is denying her motion for sanctions. So she was upset and she was like, judge. Omg. Brian Friedman said mean things about me in a podcast interview. And because she said it on a podcast or because he said it in a podcast interview, that's going to prejudice people against me. It's hurting my credibility. And then the judge is like, not today, lady. But this was like the biggest sanctions request that she's been really trying to push forward here. Let's actually pull up and we'll read the order together. Okay. Okay. So here we are. Boom. Blake Lively vs Wayfair defendants Judge Lyman writes plaintiff Blake Lively moves pursuant to New York professional conduct code 3.6 and federal rule of civil procedure for an order granting sanctions against Brian Friedman, counsel for the Wayfarer parties plate. Plaintiff asserts that Friedman should be sanctioned for making extrajudicial statements commenting upon her character and credibility that will have a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing the adjudicative proceedings in this matter. The statements may were made between eight and 11 months before the scheduled pre trial or before the then scheduled trial date in this matter. So this was the original trial date that was going to be in March. Assuming without deciding that Friedman's statements were not protected by the safe harbor provisions, plaintiff has not shown that those statements given when they were made are substantially likely to prejudice any adjudicative adjudicative proceedings in this case. Accordingly, motion is denied. Judge Lewis Lineman dated today, Friday, March 13, 2026. Which is presumably why we started getting these stories out. Look at this. Us Weekly says breaking news, celebrity news. Breaking celebrity news. Blake Lively reportedly fights against Justin Baldoni's request to dismiss. It ends with this trial. What a convenient title you wrote there. Shelby. Shelby Stivali Stavail Go with Stavalli. This is a top story per US Weekly. Blake Lively is fighting against Justin Baldoni's request for a dismissal. Lively, 38, and her team filed a letter on Thursday, March 12th, citing a recent federal appeals court ruling that alleged that allegedly proves her lawsuit against her. It ends with this co star and director should not be dismissed. Lively played Lily in Colleen Hoover's adaption of It Ends with Us, which Baldoni also starred and directed. The U.S. court of Appeals for the Second Circuit issued a decision earlier this week stating that the case should not be dismissed due to the wording of a complaint if evidence has already been gathered. According to People, Lively's argument is that is that same is that the same precedent should be followed as she gears up to battle Baldoni in court. Dismissing Lively's case at this point would hardly serve the efficient or just resolution of disputes. If evidence can support her Allegations. Us Weekly has reached out to Baldoni's team for comment. And then they get into the background and they make it clear Baldoni's continued to deny Lively's claims against him. He files a countersuit, which was dismissed in June 2025. So it's interesting that this is the narrative that we're going out with. Let's just see. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and let's just go to the Us Weekly because this was their hot story, right? Blake Lively reportedly fights against Justin Baldoni's request for dismissal because it's framing it as if Baldoni wants this case dismissed because he's afraid of it going to trial. Did they update anything? No. Let's see. What's Their latest news? 5 best new shows to watch this weekend. Okay, great. Thank you. Breaking news right there. How many great American movies has Candace Cameron Bure starred in? Oh, another banger. Top headline. Christine Quinn is returning to selling Sunset. Wow, that actually is a pretty. I'm actually very interested in that. After her. Nearly four years after her last episode aired. This is an exclusive, like full time. She's coming back. Returning to the. To the franchise after a four year hiatus. Christine is coming back. A source exclusively reveals, noting that the cast was supposed to start filming and it's been delayed because they are waiting for her to finish negotiations. Christine's return comes four years after her last episode aired during season five. Interesting, huh? Chrishell is not coming back. That is confirmed. And neither is Nicole Young or Christy. I don't know who these people are. I do know Christine Quinn and I do know Chrishell. But interesting. She's leaving and Christine's come. But Christine was always the villain. But no, of course, they did not post anything about Blake Lively losing this motion for sanctions. Arguably you could say. Well, no, I was gonna say, arguably, you can say, well, Brian Friedman's not really a celebrity fixture. There'd be no need for him to be involved in celebrity headlines. But like, no, that's a. They covered the other piece about Blake Lively, so why not this one too, huh? Why not? Why not? So let's see. Did Page Six cover anything? No. Oh, but we have House of Horrors. Chilling footage of the bedroom from Nancy Guthrie is likely taken from resurfaces as Desperate Search nears six weeks. Yeah, so, yeah, there we go. Look at, there's. There's the press out there. You know, they're making it in. Blake Lively's attorneys. They're making it clear that they do not want her case dismissed. They fully intend on moving forward to trial. Okay, cool, bro. Thanks for this groundbreaking update. So Baldoni did get. He has filed to get Blake's case dismissed. And of course, Blake Lively's team, they want to spin this every which way that they can. Press seems to be painting this narrative that he's afraid of going to trial. He's fighting to have the case throw her. Her lawsuit out. It's very standard. Usually you always fight for a motion to dismiss. She won her motion to dismiss her. Sorry, her. Was it summary judgment or his case was dismissed. But listen, maybe, just maybe, you know, I don't know if the press would ever consider this, but just maybe her case is stupid and her claims are meritless or maybe some of them aren't meritless. I don't know. That's what the judge is going to have to decide which, if any, of her claims should be moving forward. And at this point, I believe they both plan on moving forward with the trial. I believe they both plan to go fully nuclear, in my opinion. We've already seen most of the case. We've already seen most of the evidence, so I'm not entirely sure that there will be anything new that comes out aside from a decision from a jury, but. But we'll have to wait and see. There you go. At least we got some good news that Friedman will not be. Will not be facing any sanctions at the hands of Blake Lively. Fifi says this is just monkey business. Laurie. Jane says, just stupid. She's scurred. Yes, she's scurred. OC Girl 2025 says Blake needs to give up and move on. Nobody should give her any more movies. Listen, if you think. If you're happy with this case, again with Blake Lively and Friedman winning against her in this motion for sanctions, hit that like button. Be like, I like this. Hit that like button right now. Hit it, hit it, hit it. Amy says Zach just got sidetracked trying to show us sidetracks, people from Blake News. Exactly. And then I bought into it, and I got sidetracked. I was like, oh, Christine Quinn's coming back to Selling Sunset. Interesting. I haven't seen Selling. I don't think I've ever watched a full episode of selling sunset. TBH K. Witcher. Bitchin1 says pure shenanigans from the start, period. All right, let's see. Okay, let's move on. Now that we. We have officially finished our. Our legal update, let's move on to watch or. All right, let's see. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is back with an all new season. Season four is here. Season four is here. C era. This beat is automatic Supersonic. Okay, so I watched the first six episodes, like I mentioned today, with my blistered fingers from putting together furniture all day, all evening, I was like, oh, I'll be able to eat dinner by seven. And then it was like nine o' clock and I was like, oh my God, it's already nine o' clock and I haven't even had dinner. So I had pretzels. But I watched the first six episodes of the new season of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives on Hulu because it premiered on Thursday, the 12th. It's not a bad season. I haven't been particularly hooked, but I watched as I was, you know, preoccupied. It's a lot of Taylor, Taylor, Frankie, Paul making some poor decisions when it comes to boys. Get it? It's a lot of dad talk. There's so much dad talk this season. I'm enjoying Whitney and Jen's story on Dancing with the Stars because they're, you know, it's their stories of them coming into these big career moments. I like that it gives us something to root for. We're seeing them really give their all. I think Jen is really aspirational because she says that it's been her lifelong dream to go on Dancing with the Stars and to make her mother proud. And she's obviously weeks away from giving or, yeah, weeks away from just giving birth, which is impressive that she's even out there doing all of this. Whitney also, you know, we see her juggling, balancing career and being a mom and trying to be a good friend. And it's. You can see the toll that it's weighing on her, which, you know, is a lot. I mean, Dance with the Stars is intense. It is not easy work. And then to have to be a mom of young kids you're bringing with you and to be filming a reality show all at the same time, like, it's a lot. But then you see her, like getting an acting gig and so there's just a lot of wins for her that I thought you were really cool. So I like seeing those wins for them and to see the growth in their careers. But the dad talk of it all is a bit much. Okay, I like dad talk. I do. I would, I would. With some naked dad talk. Any time, any day, name the place. But them making this like. Or making dad talk or the guys, a central piece of the drama tells me that they're lacking enough content to fill all 10 episodes. And maybe we don't need all 10 episodes. Like, maybe we're just stretching this out more than it needs to be. I don't mind a little dad talk. I mind a lot of dad talk, and this is a little too much dad talk. It's a lot. And I'm like, okay, I'm over the dad talk of it all. Okay? We're here to watch the mom talk, not the dad talk. And then Miranda. Pointless every season, pointless. Like, I don't understand why she's there. I don't understand what she adds to this cast. She doesn't bring anything interesting. She doesn't bring anything new. She has no story. She has no drama. She doesn't really get involved in anything. She's kind of like, I don't know. I don't know. I just think it's weird. What's going on with Chase? I don't know. She's kind of just there, and I'm just like, okay, why are you here? What are you bringing to the table? You were the season two edition. We were hoping for some big fireworks because you were the wife of Chase who fell in love with Taylor, Frankie, Paul, when she was swinging. So, like, we thought that was gonna be the zinger, right? Like, this was the wife that was swinging with Taylor, and then the husband fell in love with Frankie. Like, with Taylor, Frankie Paul. Like, I just. I don't. She literally brings nothing. Layla's boring, but at least she moves the plot forward, so I'm cool with that. Like, Layla knows how to stir the pot. She knows how to ask questions. She knows how to set up a scene. I don't know if that's a producer thing or that's her just thinking like a producer. But at least she moves the story forward. Macy. Not very likable this season. I've always really enjoyed her. I've always found her to be light and fun and sweet and grounded. But she isn't really selling me on this whole, like, book journey. Like, I don't. Like, I'm not compelled to buy her book or to listen to her book on Audible at the least. Right? Like, her whole book journey is just. It's not interesting to me. Like, the whole, like, the big meat there is that the publisher isn't happy with her, and her ticket sales are moving slow on her book tour, and she seems, like, a little passive about it. She's kind of like, well, do they know I had a kid? And I'm like, but, like, you committed to this. You have Whitney and Jen, who are literally on Dancing with The stars. And you can't post a few extra stories to pump people up to go to your book tour, to go see you live and do a meet and greet. Like, I don't know. Like, if this book really means to you what you're claiming that it means to you, then, like, own it, baby. Give us your moment. This is your moment. We want to see you celebrated in your M.O. heather Gay did a great job of that. Right? Heather Gay convinced people that she was a bad Mormon. She got everybody to go and buy her book. They wanted tea. They wanted it all. She was willing to give us everything. And then Taylor is just frustrating to watch. And honestly, it's not a good look for her joining the Bachelorette. Like, I wish I would have not seen this season before the Bachelorette, because now I'm like, I. I don't. I'm not rooting for her. You know, it doesn't make her look good. It doesn't make it look like she's ready or prepared to find love on the Bachelorette, especially if, like, she's still caught up in this toxic cycle with Dakota. And I didn't really appreciate how she treats her mom. And I know I'm probably gonna get heat for saying this, but let's get into it. Granted, I will say I agree her parents aren't great towards her either. And I do take issue with that. Like, I had a big issue with the way her dad spoke to her. I know it's not her biological dad, but he was her dad, essentially. And I did have issue with how he spoke to Taylor when it came to her continuing to go back to Dakota. I get the mom's frustration with Taylor, but Taylor's a grown adult now, right? She can take responsibility for her own actions. And rather than diffusing or trying to heal her relationship with her mother, I see she's putting a lot of blame on her mother. There's a lot of projection. There's a lot of this is your fault, and you're not a good mom, and you're not a good support system for me, and you're this and you're that and you weren't there for me, and blah, blah, blah, blah. It's a lot of that. And I get it. Her mom's not perfect. I'm not here to defend her mom because her mom is far from perfect. And her mom loves the camera. Right? But, you know, I'm not here to. She's not perfect by any means. Not here to defend her, but her mom is at least there Right. And her mom is at least trying, and her mom helps with her kids. Like, that's huge that your mom is there for you anytime you need and will take those grandbabies anytime she can to take a load off of you so that you can go and work and pursue your dream and live the life that you wanted. She's not perfect, but she's there. And that's a lot more than a lot of other mothers. And she's not there in the sense where she's trying to police your life or control your life or tell you what to do or tell you all the things that you're doing wrong. But, yes, she does call you on your shit when you're doing things that she sees are wrong. And she's just like, I don't know how you keep going back to this guy Dakota. Maybe her approach isn't great, and I'll give it to you on that. But, like, I see the willingness in her mother to want to have a good, healthy relationship with Taylor and the willingness to try to work on that. That relationship with Taylor, Whereas I just. I feel like Taylor has these unrealistic expectations, and I feel like Taylor really holds a lot of resentment towards her mother. And at some point when you become an adult, and I know that there are still people, and I apologize if this triggers you in any way, but at some point, the resentment that you hold towards your parents, you need to learn to release and let go of, not for their sake, but for your own. Right. Like, you can't always blame. You can be 45 fucking years old and be like, well, my mom didn't buy me a, you know, a sonic smoothie. Like, oh, my God, grow the fuck up. You're an adult now. I'm sorry if that's. That's a bit harsh. I just. It's. It's challenging when I see somebody like Taylor who is perpetually putting herself in this victimhood while also at the same time taking actions that continue to set her backwards. Like, you're your own worst enemy. And it's hard to root for you as the protagonist in this story when you're not doing anything to help yourself. So, yeah, when I see her mom being like, oh, my God, like, how are you going back to. To, like, what are you doing? Like, yeah, that's tough love from your mother who loves you and doesn't want to see you continue to put yourself in this cycle. And I get it. We're in this. Like, I have boundaries, and I'm a grown woman. And you're not going to tell me what to do with my life. I get it. We're in this era now. I get it. And I fully support being an independent grown woman or an independent grown adult in general. Right. That's not commentary that I have specific to women, that's towards any grown adult because there are plenty of men that also stayed stuck in this victimhood, right? And it's like, at what point do we want to improve our lives for our own health, right? For our own sanity. And sometimes that means cutting people off. I personally, that's not the, the route I like to take, but I understand for some people that's the healthier option. I just, you know, as someone myself, like that has worked really hard on myself and on trying to heal my relationships with my parents, you know, not that they were ever at this level of toxic, but, you know, there were expectations I feel like I had and I held for my parents that were, you know, that would perpetuate this cycle of disappointment for myself. Like, I would be like, my parents should be here, they should be doing this, they should be acting this way and blah, blah, blah, blah. And then at some point I had to like really deconstruct that and be like, okay, no, I need to work on myself because I keep holding them to the standard. And at this point I, I'm a grown ass adult. They're grown ass people. They didn't know how to be parents when they were parents. So I can at least have some empathy, right, for the fact that they weren't prepared for the situation that they were in. They were in high school and they had me, they didn't know how to be parents. Would I have wished they've made different choices? Would I wish they would have been more involved? Would I wish, like, yes, if I could have a magic wand and change things, I would absolutely change a number of different things. But I can also look at the circumstances and the context surrounding my parents situation and be like, okay, they didn't do the best, but they did the best they knew how to do at that time. And I also had to shift my mindset of being like, my parents didn't not love me, they just only loved me to the best of their ability. Right? They parented to the best of their ability and sometimes they don't know better. Right? It's like putting a kindergartner in a white room and giving them a box of markers and then they color on the walls and it's like, well, are you really gonna be upset with that? Kindergartener, they don't know not to color on the walls or they don't know how to use those markers and in a resourceful way to, you know, whatever. Like you just you. When there are circumstances that you're not prepared for, you make mistakes, right? And I get it. Taylor's in that place right now. But I'm like, at what point do we grow up and start to have some inner self reflection and not blame mommy and daddy for all of our problems moving forward, Right? And so once I started to deconstruct that and I started to work on myself, like that wasn't the responsibility of my parents to change who they are to fit my expectations. I made a conscious choice to embrace, accept, and love them for exactly who they are. Right. Even in the areas that I felt like they fell short, you know, and when I learned to just accept them and, and, and, and love them for who they are, I stopped judging them, I stopped holding expectations of them. And in turn, I was able to then categorize them and place them in my life in different ways. Right. Cause my mom and my dad are very different. But I was able to then place them in different areas of my life and know, okay, when I need this, I know I can go to my mom, or if this I know I can go to my dad, or I know I can go, I can't go to either of them because I just know that's not based off of the patterns that I've seen. Those are not things I can rely on them with, you know, and you just have to allow them to be who they are and set boundaries to not police them or to police other people. I think that's what people mistake with boundaries, is they think that boundaries are rules for other people to follow. When it comes to me, it's like, who the do you think you are if you're going to set rules for other people? Your boundaries are for yourself, right? They're rules for yourself. And so that's what I think Taylor needs to work on. And so it becomes very frustrating to watch her because I still see a lot of that blame that she's putting on her parents for not meeting her expectations. When it's like, but look at your own bad behavior and look at all of the mistakes that you continue to make. That, yeah, I would understand why your mother would become frustrated with you, you know, but that's just. And again, I'm not saying her mother's perfect. She's far from perfect. We've seen them make plenty of mistakes on that show. But based off of what we're seeing this season, you know, it's just. It's. It's hard to root for Taylor. But that's just my perspective. I. In no way am I saying that I'm the authority or that I have it all figured out. I just think when you take accountability for your own life and for your own actions, your world changes. And rather than constantly trying to find somebody else to deflect blame onto, there's power in taking accountability. And I think a lot of people like to think that they take accountability, but there's always a accountability. But I am this way. I know that I'm an. But I'm an asshole because my mom did this or because my dad said this or because they didn't do these things. That's why I am the way that I am. Sure, you can totally blame them for that then, but at what point do you then reframe that narrative and work on yourself to then move forward as a healed person? Going forward? Right? Because you also have to deconstruct the bad with the good. Because then when you become a parent yourself, you have to be like, okay, well, what values was I raised with that worked for me? And what didn't work for me, right? Because I think that is why there's this big pendulum swift from generation to generation is you have one generation that makes all these mistakes, and then the kids only focus on the mistakes, and then they do the polar opposite to not make the same mistakes without incorporating the. The good traits that they were raised with. And it just kind of goes back and forth of trying to overcorrect the mistakes that your parents made, and you just go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and it doesn't really solve any of those. Those generational patterns. But, yeah, back to Mormon wives. Sorry, that was my. My parental rant about Taylor and her mom. But overall, the season's not bad, but it's. It's not the most memorable. And then, like, to me, oh, my God, I almost forgot about Demi. Entirely forgettable this season. And, like, what a fall from grace. Because she literally went from fan favorite in season one to being the total villain in season three to being absolutely forgettable in season four. And, like, she's done halfway or not even halfway through because it's 10 episodes. She's gone by, like, the fourth, the third or fourth episode. She's not in the opening credits. She doesn't have any talking heads this season. Total fall from grace. Such a mess. Nothing about her is interesting to discuss outside of her lawsuit with Marciano, which we'll see where that goes. I'll keep you posted as that continues to unfold. I talked about it, I think, on yesterday's podcast. And then we also got so watch or skip Mormon Wives. I'm gonna say watch, but watch passively. Don't you really need to be engaged too much this season? But it's. It's not. It's not bad. Devil Wears Prada, too. Very excited. We got a new trailer that came out this week. Very, very excited. Comes out in May. They're showing that there are these popcorn baskets. These are purses. It's like a red purse, but it's. It's a basket or a bucket. Popcorn bucket, but it's a purse, which I thought was really cool. And it's really fun. And people are like, oh, my God, I'm already gonna pre order my tickets so I can get my bucket. My purse bucket. So I'm excited. I'm ready for the sequel. Obviously, this is the era of nostalgia. So going back, we had Freakier Friday. We had I know what you did last summer. We had the re. The reboot of scream with Scream 7 bringing back Neve Campbell. So, like, we're in this era of bringing back to life these older films, which I'm excited about. Devil wars product looks good. Anne Hathaway and Emily Blunt look incredible. Miranda Priestly looks a little loopy, right? That's Meryl Streep. Looks a little loopy. She doesn't look as sharp as she used to be. Doesn't look as with it as she used to be. And Miranda Priestly had composure. Miranda Priestly had bite. Miranda Priestley was smart and decisive and just like. But this Miranda in the trailer that we're getting feels a little aloof. I don't know if that's part of the story that we're going to be getting about how Miranda's aging out and she's no longer a stripe as she used to be when she was running Runway. I don't know. I'm holding my reservations and hoping for the best. I'm excited. I'm hoping for a strong sequel. So we'll see. But The Devil Wears 2 returns to OR. Yeah. The Devil Wears Prada returns to theaters with the sequel this may, I believe, May 1st. So I don't know. Heather says, zach, can we all pray for Janice at the end of the show? Her son is. Her son is missing. When two or more are gathered in his name, he hears our prayers I did not know her son was missing. Yes, absolutely. Heather, we can take a moment to say a prayer for. I know Janice was. Well, I don't know if she wants to share it publicly, but she, she did share with us in our recent zoom that there was supposed to be a reunion with her son that was happening, I believe, yesterday. And so we were all very hopeful there was going to be a positive reunion. And it does not sound like that was the case. So we should pray for Janice. We love Janice. Janice is a great, integral part of the Zach Pack community. And so we pray for you, Janice. We love you, Janice. And you know, we hope that there is a positive resolution. But we love you, Janice and we just want to remind you of that. K Witcher Bitchin says adulting isn't easy. Everything I didn't realize was coming and accountability has a day to produce, has a day to day process. Oh, and I'm 68. Wow. I agree. Listen, it's an ever, ever going, ever evolving process. Sending. Yeah, everyone's sending love and prayers to Janice and her son. Thank you, Muddy, Grace, Robin, Laurie. Thank you, guys. Sending love and light. Thank you, Kenny. Yes. All the love, all the light, all the prayers to Janice. So. All right. I think that's all I have for you. Happy Friday, guys. Don't miss a new episode of the tour tapes. This Sunday. You can watch Zach Peter the tour tapes. It streams on YouTube. It streams on Spotify, so be sure to check it out. You can also watch if you are like, you know what, I don't want to wait for weekly updates. I don't want to wait for weekly episodes. I want to watch all of the tour tapes or right now. Well, then you can watch them all. Right now, all six episodes are available on Supercast. If you're a member of Supercast, I'm dropping a bonus episode this weekend as well where I'm doing a Q and A and I'm answering all of your questions so you can sign up for Supercast. That's no filter all access on Supercast. There is a link down below. You can go to allaccess.supercast.com to sign up for no filter all access. You can have all access to the tour tapes and you have all access to this activated tour stops and you can have all access to ad free episodes, bonus episodes. I will be dropping a bonus Q and A episode. I put a call out for questions for people to send in and I will be answering all of your questions. So get ready for that. All right. I love you I appreciate you Have a great weekend and I will talk to you guys on Monday. All right, ciao for now, everybody. Have a good one by.