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No Filter With Zack Peter
Is Alex Cooper a Nightmare to Work For? Plus, Collin Gosslin Tell-All, & Jelly Roll Hospitalization
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Is Alex Cooper a disaster to work for or is it really her husband Matt? Vanity Fair has released their hit piece on the call her Daddy Empress. Plus we have Colin Goslin who is now releasing a tell all about what it was like growing up on John and Kate plus eight and the monster his mother was. Jelly Roll we found out was hospitalized after filing for divorce. There's so much to get into so I hope you're ready for it. Let's dive in. This is no Filter with Zach Peter your go to source for all the latest pop culture and reality TVT Serve fresh all week long. Now let's dive and dive in. We shall. Welcome on in. Welcome on in. Welcome on in Everybody in the club. Happy Thursday. Happy Thursday. I hope you guys enjoyed yesterday's Zoom. We had a fun Zoom with our no Filter all Access members. Love love love everybody in the curb. Welcome on in. What's up guys? Welcome on in. Oh look at ck Price says good live last night. Zach. I hate that politics has to divide people. Love you. Thank you. Love you too. I finally been able to make it to a live. It's been a long time. Yes, but Amy, you're always there on Wednesdays. We love seeing you on Wednesdays. Yeah it's it's Thursday. Thursday Da na na na on Thursday. It is Thursday my dudes. Lots to get into today. By the way I was just on and I want you guys to go and show her some some love and and some support. The misjudged podcast is out now it's available on YouTube. It's available on Apple. It's everywhere you get your podcast. But it's really. It's a really good conversation. We talk about a little bit about Amanda and Wes and the cheating scandal. Alyssa, she's the host of the show. And so Alyssa had me on. It's called the Misjudged Podcast. Thank you, Christina, for reminding everybody what happens in the zoom stays in the zoom. But, yeah, so go and check it out. There's a new episode that just dropped. It's cheating in relationships and dating. Emotional affairs, lies and reality TV is good. So go show her some love. And I just posted a good. It was a good clip from. From the podcast. I guess maybe I can play the clip without the audio, without the. The music. It's a good clip and it slaps. And so I just posted, yes, thank you, Laura. Misjudged podcast on YouTube. Go show her some love in the club. Here's a clip from it that I just wanted to play. I posted on Instagram. But, like, the Instagram version just slaps so much harder because the Instagram version has, like, the music to it. And obviously we can't play the music here on YouTube, but it slaps. So go and look at the Instagram version. Go to my Instagram. You can see it there. But here's the clip without music in that way. Like, I'm not attached to an outcome to fumble me. He would really be. He'd really be an idiot. I'm bringing way too much to the table. And now I know that, like, I know what I bring to the table. I know who I am. I know losing me now is such a. Is such a fumble of the ball. And I look at so many people, whether it's dating me or that were friends with me or that were in business with me that fucked up so bad. And, like, there's so many times where I've been fucked over. Yeah. And I look at myself now and I look at my life now, and I'm just like, yeah, like, I hope you all get to watch this on. I'm not going to block you. I'm not going to cut you out. I want everybody to see the life that I have now and what I've built because I worked for that. And you could have been here, too. Everybody that's ever left my life, I'm like, you could have been eating the fruit at this table with me, and you fucked up. So now you get to sit there from the nosebleed seats and watch me in this arena, period. That's right. Put that on. Period. It slaps so much harder with the music. So go on Instagram it's on TikTok too. Zach Peter. On TikTok and you can, you'll see it there and it's, it's, you know, it's a slap. And listen to the full podcast because it is actually really good. We talk about cheating, we give fun stories. We, you know, talk about dating. The crazy thing. So this was filmed a month ago. It was. It was filmed or over a month ago. I wanna say. I wanna say we filmed this in like early to mid May. So. Yeah, it's definitely been over a month. A lot has changed in that last month. But yeah, so that's where we at. I love this look, Zach. Thank you, Tomi. This is my like, fresh from the gym look. Cause I got a late start and I try to squeeze in like half of my, my workout and then I'll probably finish the second half right after we finish taping. But yeah, so it's my hat. My hat. Ba ba ba ba ba. Debbie, we're sending you love. Debbie, we're sending you all the love. Everybody send love, prayers, good vibes, thoughts to Debbie. Hank, who's having a rough, rough go, rough time this week. But we love you, Zach. Love the backwards cap. Thanks. I usually do wear. It's normally like when I'm at the gym or I'm like. Or after the gym or something. I do love a little. But you need like the right hat so that it fits your head and doesn't look funny. But yeah, I'm glad you like it. CD thank you. So that's where we at. Check out misguided. Okay, Jelly roll, Let me see that jelly roll. That jelly roll. So Jelly Roll was hospitalized. Was that last week or the week? It was the ninth. How long ago was that? Yeah, it was last week. Wow. So weird. I feel like it's the 18th. I guess that was nine days ago, but it's been like more than. It's been like a week and a half. But yes, technically that was last week. He was hospitalized last Tuesday. He's on tour with Post Malone and I guess that's like what, a week before the news came out, but like a couple of weeks after he had filed. Cause he filed in. Wait, he filed at the end of May. They split. What was it? May 11 is when there is their date of separation. And then it was like the 20 something that he filed. So it's literally a couple weeks later. He doesn't seem to be doing well. He. He had a really extreme sinus infection that made his face like puffy and he wasn't able to like complete his set. When he was on tour, he was traveling with Post Malone. He shouts out Post and says that like, Post Malone was great and, you know, was. Has been there for him. Obviously Bunny's not there for him because she's piecing on and she's making a lot of shady music videos, or not music videos. A lot of shady TikTok. TikTok videos. But like with the music where she like lip syncs them or she does like the little. There was the, the. The Nickelback one that we talked about the other day, but since then, now she's like all up in my algorithm and I keep seeing more and more of her videos and it's, it's quite the time. Quite the time. So you go, bad Bunny. That's she. She's the real bad Bunny. My favorite is one of these things. 100k for real estate. What? What? What? 100k for real estate. I miss Onijah Robinson. I wish she had more longevity. But she's back in New York last I heard, and she was living her life. But I would have loved to have. I need to take a trip out to New York soon. Second house? Yes. Charlene, that's right. I hate to say it, but I feel like Bunny is gonna relapse back into drugs and drinking. I hope not. I hope not. She's come so far and she's living such a good life. A lot of people are saying that he had to divorce her now because it was before the 10 year mark and he'd wanted to like, make sure he didn't pay her anymore. I don't know, it's just. It's kind of. It sucks. You know, I feel bad for her. He. I don't feel bad for him. I think based off of the cryptic messages and videos she's been posting, it kind of seems like there was cheating. Like, we know that he's cheated in the past, but I think there may have been a new resurgence of cheating. I mean, we heard that. The speculation yesterday with the source in the Daily Mail that claimed that it had to do with him, like living this new Jesus life. And she doesn't really fit into that Jesus life because she's so big, like titties out and she's like doing all these things and she's like really sexy and like owning her body. And I don't know, I think to me this feels. She. She's giving betrayed energy. Like, she feels hurt. She feels like he betrayed her in some way. She's already teased that there's a podcast coming. She hosts. Her podcast is called the Dumb Blonde Podcast. And so it looks like she's. She's ready to spill that tea. According to tmz, they're already starting to divide the assets, which is a bummer. Looks like divorce is absolutely moving forward, and there's no. There's no turning back from this. TMZ says with multiple sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ the split has been moving smoothly. Behind the scenes, we're told both sides are focused on making each other, on making each person get what they deserve. And so far, there has been no major disputes over money or property. Yeah, that sounds guilt. That's like, I feel guilty, so I'll give you what you want. In fact, sources tell us Bunny is already walking away with at least one of the couple's homes as part of the assets division. We're told that the process has been amicable so far, with both sides focused on making sure the other person gets what they deserve. Our sources say that the former couple has already been living. Living separately and moved into their own homes following the split. Jelly Roll and Bunny own several properties in the Nashville area, and people close to them have been told the estate they once shared could eventually be sold. So that's. That's where they at. That's a bummer. That's a. That's a bummer. Bummer. Bummer. But sending them love. L O V e L O lo V e. I'm talking about. Don't they have a child? It's not her child. It's his child. Or doesn't he have two kids? I think. I think he has two kids. There was one that he had before her, and she helped him get custody, and then there was one that he had after her. Right. Or, like, after he started dating her. And that was, like, a kid that he had, like, out of wedlock. Like, he was with her, and then he had a baby because he cheated on her. Right. They're the two kids, I believe. Yeah. Are his, not hers. Okay. His two kids. We have Bailey. Bailey was born in 2008. And then Noah, who they call Buddy. Buddy was born in 2016. She does have custody, though. Bunny has custody of Bailey, who's the first daughter, and I believe that's because she helped him get custody, and it seems she also gained custody of Bailey as well. So according to people, it says his daughter Bailey Ann was born in 2008. His son Noah Buddy was born in 2016. He and Bunny share custody of Bailey. Primary custody. The singer filed for divorce from Bunny nearly after nearly 10 years. Yep. Over the years, Jelly Roll has shared how the birth of his daughter in 2008 forever changed his life for the better. On the day Bailey was born, Jelly Roll was in prison for dealing drugs. I could no longer be selfish. That was something that was solely relying on me, Jelly Roll told 105.7 the Point in September 2022. I knew that there was a that was an important task, so I wanted to take it seriously and I did. I take it very seriously to this day. Jelly Roll and Bunny were granted primary custody of Bailey when she was eight years old. The country singer previously shared during an appearance on the Pivot podcast. So Bailey's now 18. So she's grown. Damn. Waited until she was 18 and now he's like, thanks for raising my daughter. Now I'm out. I'm gonna go live my single life. I'm gonna go do me. And I believe Noah is a child he had out of wedlock, says Jelly roll son Noah, aka Buddy, born in 2016. Apart from a birth announcement on Facebook, Jelly Roll has refrained from publicly speaking about his son in interviews, fans got their first major introduction to Noah when he and Bunny made a TikTok ahead of his seventh birthday in 2023. His name is Noah and my name is Noah. My favorite color is red. Elsewhere in the video, Noah shared that his favorite hobbies are Pokemon and soccer and that he wants both a dog and a cat for a pet. He also teased that he thinks okay. Speaking with the tasted country in August 2023, Jelly Roll shared that Noah is very much part of the family and often goes on vacation with them. In those instances, he added, they traditionally always try to shoot social media content around him out of respect for Noah and his mom's privacy. With Bailey, I'm the full time parent. I'm the judge, the jury, the executioner when it comes to decisions with her, jelly Roll explained. I tried not to get in the way of Noah's mom, in the way of what Noah's mom is building over there and I never want to step on her toes with what she's doing with him, that I want to just respect that boundary. In recent years, Noah's been spotted out with his dad several times. In December 2025, the two sat courtside at a Tennessee Volunteer or Tennessee Volunteers vs Illinois Fighting Illies basketball game. A few months later in February 2026, Noah walked the red carpet out of the premiere of the Goat Got It. So yeah, that's my understanding is that Buddy, AKA Noah, was some was an infidelity situation. He cheated on Bunny, had Buddy, and now I believe he's financially responsible for Buddy. But you know, he does get to still see him and visit him. But obviously his life has his fame has blown up a lot in recent years. So I understand the the desire to stay out of the public eye. Okay, let's take a quick break and then we'll dive into Alex Cooper and the Goslins. 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Apparently, there's buzz going around Taylor Swift's house this weekend in New York, which means she may be gearing up for the wedding. I mean, could the wedding be happening before July 3rd? Nobody knows. We'll see. Okay. Alex Cooper. So Vanity Fair did this whole hit piece, I guess is fair to say, about Alex Cooper, who's best known for her podcast Call Her Daddy. And then she, from the podcast, launched the Unwell Network that signed a bunch of other podcasts. But my understanding is the podcasts that they sign don't typically seem to be ending very well. It seems like people keep departing from that network. And so there's a high turnaround of employees that we've seen. Obviously there was Alex Earle versus Alex Cooper. That was beef that was going around on the Internet recently. And so it kind of just seems like everybody's insinuating that Alex Cooper is a bit of a mean girl. But now in this Vanity Fair piece, it seems like Alex Cooper may not be the problem, but the real problem seems to be her husband, Matt Kaplan. So lots of employees, current and former, all spoke off the record to Vanity Fair to recount some of these stories. Some people, I guess, were afraid of talking to Vanity Fair because they thought that, like, maybe this could be a plant from Matt and Alex that was going to try to suss out who they can't trust at the company. But he seems to run a very tight ship. And even though they seem to be a very, like, female forward brand, I guess Matt and his business partner are the two that kind of really manage the day to day of the Unwell Network, which, I mean, kind of makes sense, I think. I've always seen Alex as more of like a creative person. She's more of like the brand, the creative, the visual. Right. Whereas I feel like Matt and his business partner are probably more of the business. And we've seen this happen a lot. I think another really great example is the Skinny Confidential. Lauren Everts or Lauren Bostick. Now, yeah, she dropped Everts. Lauren Bostick and her husband, Michael Bostick, who I know and love. Lauren was actually a really big mentor of mine when I was bringing up no filter. And so, but Lauren, she created the Skinny Confidential blog that became really popular, that turned into the Skinny Confidential, him and her podcast that became really popular. Now it's called the Bostics.
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And Michael founded Dear Media. So very similar to Alex Cooper. Michael kind of was the business. And that's not to say that Lauren wasn't the business because she made very smart strategic moves, launched different products. And the Skinny Confidential brand really has become popular and very successful in its own right. And I believe she just announced that she went to Harvard. So she went from bartending to, like, building this media empire. And he has the Dear Media network, which is, you know, their podcast network, very similar to Unwell, which is Alex Cooper's podcast network. And so. But it seems like The. I don't know if people are just looking for ways to tear down Alex Cooper, but. Yeah, see, everyone's already commenting. They're saying Alex Cooper was the mean girl as soon as she fucked over Sophia Franklin. Yeah, Sofia with an F. I don't. I don't know. I mean, it kind of. I. Well, Sophia's book is coming out, but I was pretty clear or pretty, like, understanding that, like, with the Sophia stuff, Sophia just seemed ambitious and she wanted more money and she wanted the short win rather than the. The long win and the. In the long haul. Whereas Alex Cooper, I think, was a little more strategic in being like, let's play this game here right now. Maybe it's less money up front, but it could pay to pay off down the line. Although I do think that. I do think that if they had stuck together, there was a good chance they would have both been able to win. Whereas, you know, Sophia got off the train because she was willing to walk. And Alex Cooper's like, okay, then walks. Alex obviously still saw the benefit in staying with caller Daddy. And then she grew caller Daddy, and it evolved a lot into what it is now. And it's not the show that it started when it was back at Barstool. Anyway, I digress back to Vanity Fair and Alex Cooper and Matt. So many complaints in the article are mostly about Matt versus Alex. They kind of just, like, reference that Alex is a mean girl or that she enables mean girl behavior at the company. But when it comes to Matt specifically, they say that he's a really tough boss. He's made comments that have made staffers uncomfortable. Brian Friedman, I guess, represents them. And he sent a strongly worded letter to Vanity Fair, making it clear that if Vanity Fair alleged any sexual improprieties about Matt, that Vanity Fair's days would be numbered and that he would come hard. And so I think Matt runs the company. I think he runs a really tight ship. Apparently he's very flirty. One of the staffers claims that, you know, he comments on women's bodies or he comments on their outfits. I think at one point there was an Instagram photo that. Or this was one example that was referenced, but there was an Instagram photo, and he didn't think that those girls were attractive enough, so he made them take that Instagram photo down off of the unwell Instagram account or one of the. The company's Instagram accounts. I don't. I'm not exactly sure which one. It was a very vague example, but it said that, like, there was An Instagram post and he didn't think the girls were attractive enough, so he made them take it down. He's very flirty with the girls. Apparently there are girls that work there because I guess it's mostly female run. So most of the staff are women, even though Matt is kind of the one that's running the ship. But they have anxiety attacks. There are things that they say that make them uncomfortable. The hard part, not that I'm trying to negate any of this, but just as I'm hearing some of these allegations, like he said something that made me uncomfortable or he. I'm having anxiety attacks, first of all. Anxiety attacks at work or like crying at work. Like, I'm sorry, I'm from the. I'm not saying that it was right. I'm just, I'm from the generation of like, you know, the work is tough sometimes. And if you're running a tight ship and you're making it, if you're running an empire, you need to have a tight ship. And I remember, you know, my days when I was working before the podcast was my full time hustle. And I remember I had tough bosses. And I remember my boss was very. Was very tough. She ran a tight ship. She was very generous. But she also had very high expectations. And I will say this too, I actually really appreciated her because she pushed me, right? Every time I had to, like, complete an assignment that wasn't to her standards, she would keep, like, having me go back and rework. And there would be times where I'd be frustrated and I would get like, annoyed or I would be like, oh, my God, there's nothing more I can do to this. I'm out of creative juices. And it just forced me to get more resourceful. It forced me to get more creative. It forced me to really think outside the box. And I think that, that pressure, I mean, look, listen, diamonds are made under pressure, right? It's interesting because, like, for me, I. I feel like there are some of those traits that I've instilled that I learned that were instilled in me that as a boss now, you know, and having a team to manage and a team to run. And like, I try to give people leniency. I try to, you know, trust other people's creative judgment without being too micromanaging. I think there was a point where I was very micromanaging, understandably. Like, this business that I built is my baby. It's all mine. And it's a representation of me and my name and, you know, just what people see, they associate with me. So when it comes to the colors and the fonts and the styles, like, I'm always very particular. I've gotten a lot more lenient. I've learned to trust people, especially if we're trusting somebody with graphic design, I can give them a little guidance, but for the most part, like, you know, I try to make them feel confident. And so I think I'm a little less hard as a boss, but I do, when it's time for me to step in and crack the whip, I do. And I'm very stern and I'm very clear. But I also do it with the intention of building people up, right? With the intention of, like, I'm pushing you because I know that you're capable of doing better. And so this may be a little harsh, but I'm, you know, I'm letting you know that like you're capable of more and I'm trying to help bring that out in you. And I think those are the best types of bosses. And so even though working when I had that type of pressure put on me from people that worked above me, there were times that were annoying or frustrating or, you know, I don't know if I ever cried at work, but I always knew, like, reflecting on it now, I always knew that it was, it was making me better, it was making me sharper, stronger, more creative, pushing me to think outside the box, pushing me to find solutions that didn't appear to be there in the moment. And I just think that made me such a more skilled route, well rounded person. And I think, again, I don't know what it's like working at the Unwell Network and I don't want to negate anybody's really traumatic experiences. I just think we over traumatize things, we make things so traumatic, we make uncomfortable. Like we take minor discomforts and we turn them into trauma. And I'm just like, yo, like, you can't turn everything into a trauma. Like, not everything is trauma. Not everything is, is so terrible and so bad. Like some, again, I'm not trying to say that he should be sexually harassing them, even though those aren't the allegations. And he's denying any of that. But like, you know, I, I don't know, I just think sometimes this, this younger generation, this Gen Z generation is a little soft. And I'm like, you don't even realize, like I made a joke yesterday on my Instagram about MySpace. The MySpace, actually, I'll tell you the story. So I was, you may not relate to this, because you'll only be able to relate to it if you're a runner. Sorry, I have, like, hair in my mouth. I think it's like a piece of cotton because I had my dental implant adjusted, and they put, like, cotton in there, which is weird. And so sometimes you'll get, like, little pieces. Cotton. Yeah. CL says what doesn't kill you makes you stronger only if you look at it from that lens. Right. But I think the issue is we're teaching people how to operate from a place of victimhood rather than a place of building. Right. Because it's the same thing with, like, going to the gym. You can go to the gym and. And your trainer can be hard on you, and you're gonna be sore and your muscles are gonna hurt, Right? And you can sit there and say, oh, my God, that's trauma. And my trainer. I need to go see a therapist because my trainer pushed me. And now I'm debilitated because my trainer made me run a little faster or made me do two extra pushups when I felt like I couldn't do it, and then they pushed me to do it. And it's like, well, yeah, but then there's also an intention and a reason behind that, and it does make you stronger and it does make you better. But when you operate from. From that victimhood mentality, then, yeah, you're gonna think your trainer is traumatizing you rather than trainers helping you. Obviously, the gym is a different type of example because you go into the gym expecting to improve and get better. Right? And that's what I'm saying. When you go into things with the expectation of gaining the value in the experience rather than the debilitation of being a victim to that experience, it's a very different mind frame. And so I just think this generation is a little, you know, a little more soft, and we can lean more into trying to find value and pushing ourselves to grow. Deanna says 100% about people over traumatized. Everything is trauma now. Oh, MySpace. So this was the point that I was making with MySpace and the story that I was telling you. Carol says, I cried at work in the ladies room. And brush. Yeah, you go. You let out a good cry. You pull it together, and then you're like, all right, I'm not gonna let these bitches knock me, period. But I made a video about the MySpace top eight. And I was like, you know what? I think we need to bring back the MySpace top eight. Because the MySpace top eight, if you remember this, is for the millennials and some of the gen Xers with MySpace you had. It was called the Top 8. And so it's a profile, like a Facebook profile, or I guess, kind of like an Instagram profile, a TikTok profile where you have all your content, but. But in this case, you had, like, blogs. You can put, like, your info, you can put music, all of that stuff. And with the top eight, you on your friends list could rank who your top eight friends were. And it was essentially like a public shaming, right? So. Or. Or, you know, a public glorification, however you want to look at it. And when you were on somebody's top eight out of all of their friends on their MySpace list, like, you knew those were their. Their core people. Those were their top friends friends. And the rankings in that top eight would start wars in terms of, like, well, why is she before me and why is this over here? And as Tila Tequila said, who the fuck is this on your page with the big ass tits up on your top eight? So top eight was real because. And I said, we need to bring back the top eight, because sometimes bitches need to learn where they rank in your life, and sometimes where they rank is no longer in your life, and that's when you take them off the top eight. And then people were just like, oh, my God, yes, the top eight. They were like, that was true cyberbullying. I was like, yeah. Now, in today's age, a top eight where you list only eight of your friends, like, that would be considered cyberbullying. That would be digital violence, according to Blake lively. You know, MySpace friendships with shade Preloaded. Exactly. Like, we built that. Like, we came from the era of cyberbullying. So I just feel like we're built different. It was like the wild, wild West. And then what happened was, like, we, like, the world beat us up, and it kind of, like, roughened us up. And then now we're, like, raising kids, and we're raising kids to be, like, softer and be like, no, I need to protect my kid. When it's like, yes, but, baby, that built you. That made you the bitch that you are, that can fight in these streets, you know? You know what I'm talking about. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? Oh, my God. Tila Tequila. Tila Tequila. Tuan. Matthew says, zach, did you do something different? Your skin is glowing. It's distracting in the most fabulous way. I don't think I did anything. I mean, this is fresh from the gym. Normally I, like, take a shower and like have wash my hair and like we'll fix my hair but like I'm wearing a hat and some glass. Like this is more of my like roughed up look, Danny says. Man, I loved that. And the fact that we could code our own design too. Exactly. So good. Okay, let's take a quick ad break and then we'll get back to Alex Cooper and then we'll get into the goslin of it all. The Gosling. 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Visit progressive.com and give the Name your price tool a try. Take the stress out of shopping and find coverage that fits your life on Your terms, Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law. Alrighty. So, yeah, I just think with Alex Cooper, I think Matt probably does run a type ship. I think he probably. I mean, he may just be a naturally flirty guy. That doesn't make it appropriate, especially when you're the boss. I think that there are certain boundaries that you should have, and I definitely think that he needs to be more mindful of that if people are making those sorts of complaints, even if that is the environment that you have and that's the kind of workplace that you have and you guys maybe make certain jokes or whatnot. Cause they say that, like, he would ask about their dating life and, like, their sex life over the weekend. And so, yeah, I just. It is what it is. And so I think it sounds like he's more of the problem, though. I think he's more of the issue more than Alex. And from what it. From what people have said, she kind of just sits there and allows him to do this. He apparently berates people. He's very flirty. He criticizes the women's outfits and their bodies. Again, I want to know the context of that. I want to know what those actual comments are. What you know, because, like, we've learned with Blake Live, like, she threw a lot of really big allegations out there. And that's why I always have this level of discernment. It's like, well, we have to actually know what was said. Why was it said? Because then again, also, as we saw over the weekend, it was a perfect example. I'm glad that we kind of got to collectively go through that and watch that together. When you seeks. This is actually something that came up in last night's Zoom. I think it was Maria. Maria someone. I'm trying to remember who it was. Michelle, Someone brought this point up. We have so many people in the Zooms that sometimes I don't remember who says what. But there was this point that came up about how, like, people, like, why do people jump in on the fight when you know something like that, when you're going. When you're getting attacked online, like, why do other people jump in on it? And I actually learned this lesson from Dr. V. I don't know if anybody remembers Dr. V. She's kind of. I think now she lives in Switzerland, and she's kind of stayed off the grid in recent years, but she used to have a podcast. She used to be like the reality TV doctor, like Joe and Teresa on real houses in New Jersey. Dr. V would like, help mediate with them. She used to host marriage boot camp. And so her thing was always, you know, people, when 1. When the mob sees you being attacked, everybody wants to jump in, and then another person jumps in another person. Like, it's easier to jump in and be down for the fight. And that's why it was so easy for so many people to then make all of this content about me. And they were, like, going through other content that I had made that was non Spencer Pratt related and, like, making more videos and, like, you know, twisting things that I was saying out of context and like, you know, it was just. It became popular to dunk on me last week or in the past week. Like, it was just the thing that you can do. And when you see other people doing it, you feel validated and then you want to jump in on that too. And so I think sometimes that's what happens. I'm not saying that that's what happened in this situation with the Unwell Network, but once it becomes popular to be like, well, I. He said this to me. He said that to you? He said this to me. He said that to you? He said this to me. And suddenly it snowballs and it just becomes bigger because the more people that jump in on the fight, the more amped up people feel. And we've seen that with mob mentality happen before. It's packed mentality. Yes. Thank you. Once one person does it and then another person jumps in and then suddenly nobody wants to feel excluded. So then they jump in on it too, because they want to feel included and they want to feel important. And they're part of the movement and they're down for the movement. And it just continues to snowball. And that's where you get, like, the mob. That's where you get the village mob. That'll come for you. But. Yeah, but we'll see what happens with that. Let's get into the. So that's unwell. Let's get into this new book that's coming out. So just to recap, so John and Kate plus eight reality show back on TLC back in the day. They've done, like, several different iterations of it, but it was Jon Goslin and Kate Gosselin. They had all of these kids. Eight kids, I believe. What was it? Four? It was the twins. And then were the rest of them six tuplets, Am I remembering that correctly? Yeah. Eight children. I believe it was two. They had twins and then they had six tuplets, which made. Collectively made eight. And so one of Them, or I guess two of them, are estranged from their mother, Kate Goslin. And we've heard rumors about her and how she's difficult and she's super strict and all this stuff. And you watch the way that she treated Jon Goslin. And she was very particular and she was very stern about how she liked things. And she was very controlling and micromanaging and just like difficult to be around. And we saw that in the way that she treated John. And. But I mean, also understandably, you're running a tight ship. You have eight kids, you're taking care of that. There's some level of understanding, I'm not necessarily saying grace, but just understanding that I have of Kate being so uptight, but also, like, she was very uptight and very difficult. And so she had a fallout with her son Colin. Colin Goslin. They've been estranged for years. And I believe Colin's sister Hannah also is estranged from her mother and now lives with their dad, John. And so Colin and Hannah live with John. So he. We saw all of these kids on John and K8 show became really popular. We saw the demise of their relationship. It was a wild thing to watch. And then they kind of have shied away from TV in recent years. But anyway, in 2016, it was announced that Colin had been enrolled in some sort of like, residential program for children with special needs, for kids that had behavioral issues, behavioral challenges. And Kate said that she had enrolled him in this because he was having issues and she didn't publicly disclose anything. She said that she was keeping it all private for his own privacy. She didn't want to out any of his medical diagnoses. Whatever John came out, it was like this big custody dispute because they were fighting over the custody of the kids and John was claiming he didn't even know where Colin was. Ultimately, in 2018, John gains custody of Colin. He's awarded sole physical and legal custody of Colin. I guess they had the hearing and Kate didn't appear. So by default, John became the main parent and got all of the parental rights because she didn't show up to demand or to get her rights. And I think at that point she was probably just like, colin's the lost cause. Why am I going to fight for him? And so Colin and Hannah were living with John. And since then, I guess Colin hasn't had any communication with his mother. In 2023, he appeared in a docu series called the Dark side of the 2000s. Talks about how his mom would isolate him from the family. He felt like he was Treated differently. I believe he said that he was even like, locked in, like in the basement. I want to say Kate responded and she said, listen, he's gotten multiple psychiatric diagnoses. He's exhibited unpredictable violent behavior. He's been violent towards other family members. Maddie, one of the other daughters, came out and says that he'd been physically violent and he's threatened family members before. Collins denied the allegations. John Goslin, his dad, has denied the allegations. And then I believe in 2024, that's when Colin started to make, like, a lot bigger allegations against his mom. That's where he claimed that she locked him in the basement. He. She would isolate him. He claims at one point she physically restrained him. And again, without the context of this and it kind of just being like our side, their side, it seems strange to understand what was really going on in that household because she's saying he was physically abusive and dangerous and he's saying that she was restraining him. So it's like to me, there has to be a level of truth in the middle there, like. But also what was triggering him are these real psychiatric issues. How is he not having these same issues with his dad? How is his dad vouching for him and claiming he doesn't have these issues? How old is he now? He's 22 now, Deanne. Now he's 22. And so he's now releasing his own memoir. And I'll pull that up on the screen for you. It's called in the Shadow of Eight Surviving the Reality of My Childhood. So this is his new book. It comes out this fall. Let's see. The official Release date is October 13th. So I'll read you the. But even look at the COVID The COVID is. It looks like a paparazzi photo of Kate and she's walking with the kids and she's literally covering Colin's mouth. So he's making a very clear message that this book is going to be about his mom and about the abuse he endured at the hands of his mom. But here's the full book synopsis. Kate Gosling, or, sorry, Colin Gosling, one of the sex tablets from John and Kate plus eight, breaks his silence to share the shocking story hidden behind the facade of a picture perfect family. As someone who knows firsthand the lasting impact institutional trauma can have on a young person's life, I was deeply moved by Colin's honest and honesty and strength. So proud of Colin for turning his pain into purpose and powerfully sharing his story with the world. Paris Hilton. So Paris is out here Endorsing the book. For years, the world watched John and Kate plus eight through the lens of a curated joy. But while the cameras captured the milestones, they missed the moments that defined Colin Goslin's life. The Christmas morning where the gifts were reclaimed as soon as the cameras went down. And the basement room where the silence. Where silence was his only companion. Wow. So she. He's saying that she took the presents back after the cameras were gone. In the Shadow of Eight is the first account of a secret childhood lived in the gaps between the. Between the frames. Colin is finally sharing the truth about being held down the basement cell where he was hidden for years. And the cocktail of power antipsychotics forced on an 11 year boy. This is a reckoning with the dark side of fame, the systems, the entourage and the institutions that allowed one boy to be erased. This is the never before told story of how he escaped and found his way from the dark. This looks juicy. This looks. Wow. Wow, Bethany. Wow. Heartbreaking. Absolutely. But like, wow. Well, if Paris Hilton knows about this up being entrapped. Yeah. How he even got Paris's endorsement is crazy. But like this is the tell. All right. Like this. Karamo did his tell all about Queer Eye. This is the tell all. This is the real, the real inside scoop on what went down. It's crazy. Colin Goslin is one of eight children of John and Kate Goslin featured on the popular TLC Show John and Kate +8. Born in 2004, he's now 22 years old and has begun to speak out on his true experiences behind the scenes. Oof. This is kind of terrifying, right? For her, I mean like for her that like everything. Like it'll all come back to get you. He's ready to tell his truth, which is just crazy. So yeah, that looks like it's going to be a wild one. The new Netflix here. This should be the next book club. Yes, yes. But it doesn't come out until October. We have Dave Portnoy's book that's coming out that's going to be releasing soon. Dave Portnoy. And then right after him is Sophia with an F. I don't know if people are into all of that. Is she still at the Bodyguard? I don't believe Kate is still with the Bodyguard. I believe that ended a long time ago. Because didn't she did a dating show recently? Right. Like a couple of years ago with her kids. They like went and were like helping her go on dates or something. This is going to be wild. It's gonna be Wild. And you know she's gonna be flipping out because she can't control the narrative. And Kate Gosling is somebody that very much likes to control the narrative. Remember, did you guys see the interview when she put her girls on? I believe here, let's see if we can pull up some of those interview clips. The twins, the two girls who. Yeah, two girls and she. Okay, here. This is a clip from the Today show. I'm gonna play it so that we can. Because it's crazy. And this, like, gives you insight into Kate Gosling. Okay, here we go.
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You want it hot or not hot? Now, as teenagers, Cara and Maddie want to set the story straight about their family and what life was like growing up. Goslin, Kate, Cara, and Maddie Gosselin are with us now. Good morning to all of you. Good morning. Well, we have not seen you or gotten to talk to you two in a long, long time. And you're out because you want to let the world know. Maddie, what would you want to say about how you and your sister and your family are doing? Maddie, your words. It's your chance. It's a hard question. Oh, what about you, Kara? So this is their chance to talk. This is the most wordless. I've heard them all morning. Yeah, I don't want to speak for them, but, Maddie, go ahead. Sort of the things that you said in the magazine that years later. They're good. They're fine. Go for it, Matt. It's your chance. No, you just said it. I said it. Well, let me ask you this, girls. I mean, to go out and be in People magazine to say, hey, we're doing okay. Why did you feel you needed to say that? Do you think people had the wrong impression of you guys? Kara. Kara, My gosh.
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Karen. Yes. Thinking. Go for it. The interpreter. Oh, wait, What? What is she thinking? Do people have the wrong impression of you? Oh, I wouldn't say wrong. I would just say not, like, the full, like, story. Like, a lot of people, like, think that filming, like, our show has damaged us, but it's only really helped. It's not really done. They're more aware of what is out there. The, you know, inaccuracies, things that are said by the general public, their father, whoever, in general, because their friends talk about it at school. So I sort of am forced to kind of inform them. And I think the most upset. We talk about it a lot. And the most upset they are is because they get really frustrated that people assume certain things in our house. And they always say, but that's not how it is, Mommy. Why do they say that about us? Yeah, but let me ask you, Kate. I mean, to have them come out here to do a big magazine article, to have them come on national TV and sort of put them on the spot like this is. Is that helpful to them? Is that the right decision? Or does it kind of that continued exposure, I mean, continue the.
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Wait. Can we also just take a moment, just a little pause here to see Savannah pushing in to somebody's family trauma, whatever situation, Right? Like, she's like, really pushing in here. So any criticism that people had about any questioning that people had into Savannah's personal life, like, this is what the world Savannah comes from. This is what she knows that it is. The questions around her mom and the questions around what happened to her mom and what do family, you know, what did the family members know or not know? And the fact that she's hiding and, like, not putting information out about her missing mother over four months later, like, remember, this is the world Savannah comes from. She knows that these are natural questions. She knows that people are going to ask these things. And so it's interesting because Savannah's doing here what people got upset about, what people were doing to Savannah when her own mom, when her own family started to be the topic of conversation. Just something out as we're watching this.
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The injury to them. I mean, there is no injury to begin with. And these are any, you know, TV things that we do, obviously. I mean, I can't get them to do at this age, at 13, anything that they don't want to do, as with any parent. So it's not like I, you know, forced them to do it. This was a. Hey, you know, the Today show asked us if. Same with the People magazine asked us if we wanted to do this. How do you feel about it? And they agree to it. As with my nine year olds, it's a family decision. So I think that it's really frustrating when there is so much out there that is not true. I'm getting to the point where I'm extremely frustrated and I don't spend time worrying about it because I'm busy raising my kids. And we know the truth, and that's why they're here, even though they're tongue tied this morning, to say that, you know, hey, we're okay, we're doing well. Would that be accurate, girls, to say, would you guys want to do another TV show if you could? Yeah, you would because it was fun or because you like kind of having your lives out there? On display. Oh, you want me to say it? Okay, I'm sure if you were gonna say something there, Kara.
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it was. It was fun. I really miss it. And you do too. Kara. Kara does. She's just not gonna say. It's a lot of fun opportunities and, you know, it. It's. If it happens, it does. If it doesn't, you know, it doesn't. And it's a family made decision and they're just really regular, everyday awesome teenagers. Teenagers, Teenagers. You got you. We know you've got your hands. What? Do you
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notice how the sisters play each other like that? Like if you pay attention. First of all, it's obvious that this whole magazine spread that they did and they sent down with Savannah, this was them trying to pitch another reality show. Because not only was that a question Savannah asked, but then the girl's like, yeah, we would love to. So they've obviously talked about it. And Kate's like, yeah, we've discussed it. And it's a family. You can tell that this is their pitch for a network to give them a reality show. And I believe they did have like the dating show and stuff that came after this where Kate was like dating and the girls were like helping her. But also, did you see how the girls played? Like how. What was it? Matt. And that's not Maddie. What's. It's Kara. And what's the other little girl's name? Oh, my God. Why are their names not here? It's Kara. And I don't know why the other daughters, Kate and twin daughter speak out. Okay, well, the other sister, did you see the way she was talking to Kara, that she like. Kara, are you going to say something? Are you going to. I guess she. She's not going to say it. Like she started doing to Cara. Maddie. Is it Maddie? But Maddie's the one that now lives with John, right? Sorry. There are so many fucking kids I can't keep. Oh, Hannah's the one that lives with John. Sorry. It is Maddie and Kara. Hannah is the one that lives with John. But so do you notice how Maddie is doing to Kara? What Kate was doing to Maddie? Did you see that? Like, did you notice that? Like that dynamic? Like now she's taught them how to be passive aggressive to each other and that's how they have the upper hand. And I don't know if it's subtle and maybe I'm reading too much into it, but even in this clip alone, seeing Maddie treat Kara like that, you can tell is like her way of earning her mother's affection of, like, I know I screwed up. I know you're mad at me. Let me earn back your affection by being mean to Cara. Because now I'm talking, Mom, see? And Cara's not talking. And Cara, you're not going to say anything. Like, she's. This is the hierarchy that she's put and instilled within them. And you can just tell that now Maddie is putting this on Cara because she's trying to perform for her mom and show her mom. See, no way I am being good. Kara's the one that's not doing it. Hannah used to be one of her faves. And then Hannah, well, it was probably Mommie dearest. And so, you know, and again, when you're fighting to be the favorite and you're constantly in that cycle of, like, I'm trying to be the favorite. Look at me. Pick me, pick me, pick me. And you teach your kids how to fight with each other so that they are aiming to be your number one. They're aiming to be the teacher. It's very manipulative. And you can already see how that those mechanics within the girl's brains are absolutely working. It's interesting, for sure. Heather says, I feel like Kate wasn't nice to begin with, but John was so lazy, and it made her angry. I think John just shut down. You know, at some point, you don't have a mind of your own. And she just, like, controls everything. We don't need to finish this clip, but. And she just, like, controls everything. It's crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. S.J. johnson says, why do people think Savannah Guthrie is holding back information about her mother's disappearance in a weird, secretive way, too? If it's an ongoing investigation, which surely it must be, there'll be no new. There'll be no info. It's the fact that she's given us zero info. That's a whole. We. Trust me, we have beat that. That horse to death. First of all, Savannah knows that these questions are natural. Number one, as we just saw the way she was drilling, grilling Kate and her daughters. Savannah comes from that world, so she knows that these are just going to be natural, organic questions that people are going to have. I think people don't want to ask those questions of Savannah because they've always seen her as this sweet, wholesome lady on television, and they don't want that image to be rattled when, if the same circumstances were set in a different family, I think the public would be much more willing to ask those questions out loud. But it's because they know Savannah and they see her as this wholesome lady on television. But like all she's ever given us about this is that like there are no answers. All of her answers to the questions are very vague. She only did one softball interview with Hoda Kotb. Hoda asked her. No follow ups. You know, her story. We didn't even have full details about the story where she said to Hoda, she's just like, we believe that 2 of the ransom notes were real and the rest we don't believe are real. And it's like, okay, well what about those two did you believe were real? And if you believe that they were so real, why didn't you pay them? You know, like there were just so many things that again, we've beat that horse to death. That horse is now a flying unicorn. Entered the pegasus. Yeah, we've beat that horse to death. And sorry and I apologize. That's not to be shady. It's just we've covered it so like in depth that I'm like exhausted because like we're still, we're in the same place four months later of like, we still have no answers and she's giving us nothing and she's going out there and hosting wordle and, and you know, it's just, it's so weird. The entire thing is just so strange and bizarre. But I'm glad that we saw this clip where you see Savannah grilling Kate and the girls and so clearly there's no there there. She understands how this world works and she herself has been put in those positions as well. Okay, I think that's it. I think that's all we got for today. Hopefully you enjoyed today's episode. Hit the like button. Hit the subscribe button. Be sure to leave a review on Apple podcasts. 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