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Chelsea Handler is getting dragged online after her old jokes have resurfaced after trashing some of the comedians on the Roast of Kevin Hart for Netflix. And Camille Grammer is spilling some Real Housewives Ultimate Girls trip Morocco Tate on what she remembers going down in in Morocco. I hope you're ready for it. Let's dive in. This is no filter with Zack Peter your go to source for all the latest pop culture and reality TVT surf fresh all week long. Now let's dive in. What up everybody in the club happy what's date. Happy Monday. Happy Memorial Day. Memorial Day. Also I forgot to do this on Friday but I needed to give Megan a some birthday lurve in the club. Meghan's been a long time member of the Zach Pack. She's been a loyal member over on Super Cast. She came out to our shows in LA and so Megan, I just needed to give you some love. Megan Fellow Kelly girl. And just say thank you for being a big, an important piece of the Zach Pack community. I love you, I appreciate you and I hope you had a great weekend, my love. Hope you had a great birthday weekend. Happy Memorial Day. Happy Monday. Hope you guys are having a good long weekend. I hope you guys are getting a little lady city. Maybe you're barbecuing. Maybe you're chilling out by the pool. Maybe you're out tanning. Maybe you're inside reading a book. Whatever you are doing, I hope you are enjoying it with people that you love, even if that means it's just you. And you're like, I need some me time. Yesterday I needed me time. I needed a me day. So I stayed in with the dogs. I didn't get ready. I was like, lounged out. I tried binging Grey's Anatomy because people are like, oh, Grey's Anatomy is so good. And I did. I did a rewatch of Scandal, watched binged Scandal again from the beginning to end. I watched Scandal when it originally was airing. I remember watching it season by season, week by week. And I decided to do a Scandal rewatch, which I did, and that was good. And then I did a Harry Potter rewatch where I watched all of the Harry potter movies from 1 to 7, but part 1 and 2. 7, part 1 and 2. And it was good. Ooh, I loved it. And now I want to go to New York to watch the Cursed Child because they have the play and now, like, Draco Malfoy's back in it. But so I figured, like, I was like, well, I love Shonda Rhimes. I did Scandal. I was like, you know what? Let me re watch how to get how to Get Away with Murder because I remember watching how to Get Away with Murder and Elise Keaton watching that in real time. I used to watch that when they would do TGI Thursdays with How to Get Away with Murder, Scandal and Grey's Anatomy. So I was like, ooh, let me do how to Get Away with Murder rewatch. And then I was like, you know what? I've never seen Grey's Anatomy. Why don't I give Grey's Anatomy a tribe? Because I've never watched it. People love Grey's Anatomy. And now I'm like five episodes. And I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of bored and a little boring if you ask me. I want to marry Kate and Ashley. Yeah, I'm not like, I hear it's just. It's a little slow, but it picks up as you go air. Season six is crazy. The season six finale, the two part finale, crazy. So I don't know, but yeah, Gray's Night, it's just. It's not. It's not doing all the things. So what are you guys doing for Memorial Day? You having anything fun? Anything? Any barbecues lined up? I know it's not. Did you see Euphoria? I did not see Euphoria, but I did see what happened on Euphoria. I saw that one of the main character dies. And that's not a spoiler. I won't tell you which one, but it's one of like the main three. There's Zendaya, there's Jacob Elordi, and there's Sydney Sweeney. One of the core three has died. I did see that and I watched that final scene. I don't watch Euphoria. It's just a little too crazy for me. But watching that final scene, anytime there's like a big scene in a series, even if I'm not watching it, I do still like to watch it because I kind of like loosely know the characters, but I don't do any of you guys watch Euphoria. I feel like we're not a big Euphoria crowd here. Like how to Get Away with Murder. Yes. Scandal. Yes. Grey's Anatomy. Sure. I feel like we like. Good. You know, I don't know TV shows that like. I don't know. But I don't take any of us as like Euphoria people. But I mean, if you are a Euphoria person that I assume you saw the episode and I assume you saw the big death, the final death. This is the episode before the finale. I heard that there's a crazy scene with Sydney. Sweetie. And she's just like, you know, melons, bamboo bouncing, bouncing all around. Shake it like a salt shaker. I hear there's like a crazy scene with Sydney Sweeney and she's like not wearing any clothes. And then I did see the final death scene. So I do know who dies. And it was quite, it was quite the death. Should I do. Okay, I'm gonna do a spoiler alert and I'll hold my hand up so that if you're watching this, I'll do a spoiler alert, but I'll keep it under one minute. So at the 6 o' clock minute, I'm gonna time it at 60 seconds so that if you are. Which is in about 30ish seconds. So in 30 seconds I'm gonna give spoilers. Okay. And I'll keep my Hand up so that if you're watching this, you can see that visual of my hand being up. And then I'm going to use the six, the six minute mark to give you all of the spoilers of the Euphoria episode or the bits that I was watching. That way I don't ruin anything for you. Ariana says it was intense. See? Okay, so Ariana watches it. So we have somebody to watch. But let me, I'll tell you what I know of it, but I'll make sure to not ruin it for anybody. That is a Euphoria watcher. Starting in five seconds. Five, four, three, two, one. Spoilers. Okay, so the character that dies because I said it's one of the main three, it's either Sydney Sweeney, Zendaya or Jacob Elordi. It is Jacob Elordi. And so I guess I don't know what happened. Something about Sydney Sweeney and her big titties. Like she ends up banging one of the other dudes that's actually really cute on the show. I don't remember his name. Gene Wild, Gene Green. Richard Gere. That's who. Richard Gere. His son plays one of the characters. And he actually looks really good because he doesn't have like one of those like super intense. Okay, 30 seconds. He doesn't have one of those super intense bodies with the abs. So anyway, Jacob alert. He dies. He gets buried alive because I guess he owed some dudes money. So they bury him alive in a very shallow grave. And there's a hole in the grave. And you would think the hole is to suck dick, but he's not sucking any dick. What he does is it's so that he could breathe through that hole. And so what happens is a snake comes down into the hole and then the snake starts attacking him. And so the snake kills Jacob Elordi. And then Sydney Sweeney comes and that's her boyfriend and she loves him, but they have like this toxic on and off relationship. And so she opens the, the, the, the coffin of him been being buried alive and she's like, oh my God. Because they thought they were going to find him alive, but they don't. Cause the snake crawl. It was a rattlesnake. It crawled all the way in and attacked him dead. There we go. I did it. I gave you the full one minute. I love how I'm trying to not give spoilers. And Ariana is in the live chat being like, like just full on spoil. I'm like over here trying to warn people from getting spoilers. And Ariana's like screw all y'. All. I'mma get. I'm gonna tell you who. Bye bye haters. And so sorry. I tried to not ruin it, but Ariana spilled it in the live chat. For anybody that you know was not trying to see it, it is in the live chat. Okay. But not all the full details. And if you did watch it, then I Hope that that 60 second synopsis spoiler was enough for you to to get it. Wait, is Sydney Sweeney is married to the guy in the show? I don't watch but know some Sydney Sweeney's character, Cassie does marry Jacob Elordi's character, Nate. They are married on the show. Yes. But in real life, Jacob Elordi is dating Kendall Jenner and Sydney Sweeney is dating Scooter Braun. So yeah, Ariana says, am I a Danielle now? Yes, you are a Danielle, but I'll forgive you, Ariana. Okay, Sydney Swain a hey, they're married. Yes, their characters on the show are married. Okay, let's see. What should we dive into first? Should we get into the so has anybody that has not seen the crash on Netflix, have you fully caught up? If not, I believe Thursday's episode of the show last week. I believe we don't watch Sydney Sweeney because Zach and Ariana watch and spoil. Yeah, I mean, listen. But I do love me some Sydney Sweeney. She's got good genes. Remember last week, last Thursday, I did give you a full breakdown of the crash on Netflix, which was basically the MacKenzie shrilla story where she ends up murdering her boyfriend and their friend Davion, her boyfriend Dom and her. Her. Their friend Davion. She crashes into a building. There's a teeny, tiny fraction of like delusional people that believe that she is innocent or that maybe it was an accident. I don't know. To me, I'm pretty convinced that it was not an accident, that it was deliberate and that she was not expecting to save herself. Holly says Zach spoiled the housemaid, saved us time. I didn't spoil the housemaid. I warned you ahead of time. Anytime I give spoilers, I'm like, hey, by the way, I'm giving you spoilers. And then I give you the spoilers. And then some people still got mad. They're like, I can't believe you told me the whole movie in this episode. I'm like, I told you I was gonna spoil it for you. It's not my fault you just fell out of a coconut tree. I did not spoil the housemaid's tale. The housemaid. I told you I was gonna give you the tea. He gave the entire plot and the ending. I did, but I warned you about that. Guilty is guilty. Yes. Okay. Everyone agrees. Not an accident. Robin, we need to know what your thoughts are, because I know that you're in Croatia and you're living your best life, but I feel like, what are your thoughts? Did you watch the crash? Donna says, I love your fast recaps. Thank you. I try. Holly says, save me a book and a movie, but it was good. Mackenza. Shirley is where she belongs. In prison. I can't believe so many people, like, are really, like, I think it was an accident. Or maybe it was, like, believe that. She doesn't remember what happened. I think she's lying. I think she 100% remembers what happened. 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Zach runs away quickly closing his podcast, saying, it's Donna's time next. I say he's getting laid hard. Not during Donna's hour. No. I literally jump into Donna's live chat all the time. I assure you, I'm not getting laid every day at 11 o' clock in the morning. But so, yes, I don't. Is it called pig Latin or. It's like pig Latin, but it is. Okay, so it's like pig Latin, but it's gibberish. Which at first I thought gibberish was just gonna, like, like, I thought it was like random speech that, like, you. You mutter out when you have, like, a stroke or something. Right? But apparently it's. Someone says it's called carny. It's like, it's gibberish. And I didn't realize gibberish is an actual, like, form of language. They say it's called carny talk. And so my understanding is, is you take a word and then you add like, like a sound in the middle of the word. So, like, you start the word. Like, if the word is cool, then you would do. And let's say the. I don't know, the gibberish thingy. Is it's usually like a noise, or. Let's just say it's wobble. So you would say kwabul. Kwabul. Because then that's cool. Wobble. And then the. So you put, like, the funky whatever thing in the middle of the word, and you put that in the middle of every word, and then that's how you speak it. It's weird. It sounded like gypsy speak. I don't know what gypsy speak sounds like. Yeah, it's putting the ibi in the middle of the word. Okay. So it would be quibble. Ibi, Quibble. OIBI Side. I tried to say it's cool outside, and I see I botched that. But anyway, that's what they do. You can add certain endings to words. I thought it was. I thought it was the. The middle. You add the sound in the middle of the word. So that's why. And so I don't know. It's very strange. But so I guess the mom and the daughter, Mackenzie, they speak this, like, whatever, gibberish sort of language. And they spoke it in the hospital. And when they were in the hospital, there was body cam footage that shows them saying, like. Shows her saying. Speaking to her mom. She's like, can I tell her something? And then she says it to her mom in this, like, gibberish language, which was later decoded. And so in the hospital, she says, can't we just tell them I had a seizure? As in that explains why I got into a car accident is because she's telling her mom in this gibberish language that, you know, tell them that I had a seizure. And then that's what can actually, you know, excuse what happened and why I crashed my car into the bridge. I crashed my car into the bridge, into the brick building. But so there was a little bit of that that they saw at the hospital. And then she speaks this language again, but specifically when she's talking about her cellmate or someone else that's in prison with her that I think is her friend. And for whatever reason, she doesn't want to describe, like, what this friend, what her situation is or what she looks like. Like, every time she refers to this specific other prison mate, she refers to her, but she speaks in gibberish to her mom, which is just very strange and bizarre. But so anyway, they've continued to have this sort of language, and the mom has been questioned about it of, like, why do you guys have the secret language? And the mom's like, oh, it's just, like, a cool, funny thing. And Then I remember in that same interview, they were asking the mom, but, like, isn't that a little shady? And the mom's like, no, it's not shady. It's just like, if you don't want somebody else to hear what you're saying, like, you know, it's just, like, a fun thing. Like, my mom used to talk to me in gibberish, but it's like, no, that's fucking shady. When you're trying to make sure that you're having a conversation that other people don't understand. She's like, it's like, you know, my parents used to talk like that when they didn't want the kids listening to what we said. And it's like, right? It's because the parents are trying to make sure the kids don't understand what you're saying, which means you're trying to prevent other people from listening to what you're trying to say. So. Hello, Deborah. Mason says, zach, have you seen Kat, who served in the women's prison show, how lavish it can be in there? It doesn't look like. It doesn't even look like a prison. Yeah, it just. What do they call them, cupcake prisons? Just. Khaleesi says, when crimeing. Yeah, usually when you're doing something that you shouldn't be doing, when you're doing something shady, usually you don't want other people to hear you, so you would talk in code, kind of what it seems like. Fifi says, for real, Zach, she's bumping that. I don't care. I love it song Too hard when she's maxing that song irl. I know. Crazy. I heard Kate Casey interviewing her old cellmate. Yeah, a lot of the old cellmates have started to speak out. A lot of people that went to high school with MacKenzie have started to speak out. But so in a couple of the phone calls, there was one that I played last week where the mom's bragging about, like, oh, my God, it's gone international. They're talking about you in the uk. In England, baby girl, they're talking about you. And she's like, oh, my God, they're talking about me in England. And she, like, thinks it's so cool. And then she's like, now Kim Kardashian will come to us. Kim Kardashian's gonna come to us. And then there's another one where it looks like it sounds like she's talking to her friend. I kind of feel like this may be Rosie, or maybe not Rosie, but a different friend. But so anyway, one of her friends comes to visit her and she's talking to them about Kim Kardashian, and she's just like, oh, my God, we need to reach out to Kim Kardashian because she can take on my case. She's a lawyer now. She passed the baby bar, which. Did she. Maybe she did pass the baby bar, but she didn't pass the actual bar exam. And she's since come out and said that she's putting her, like, law career on hold. Like, she's not going to pursue that anymore because she's failed the bar, I think, like, four times at this point. And so she's just not interested in pursuing a law degree at this time. And granted, she doesn't really need to. Right. Like, she has skims and she's investing. She's kind of like an investor in other people's businesses. So. So she's doing her thing. But Kim Kardashian has now responded. So obviously she's still like an advocate and still tries to help other women that need support or other. Not just women, but other, like, people that are locked behind bars. And so this is a statement according to TMZ and published in Elle. This is a statement from somebody close to Kim Kardashian. They say Kim advocates for criminal justice reform by supporting individuals she believes were wrongfully convicted as well as people, the prison system, within the prison system, who have demonstrated rehabilitation and deserve a fair second chance. This case does not fall within her focus. No shit. Like, it's like low key shade, but, like, nice shade. It's like she advocates for people supporting individuals she believes were wrongfully convicted. This case does not fall within her focus. So she doesn't believe that MacKenzie was wrongfully convicted. It sounds like she believes Mackenzie is absolutely guilty and that this is definitely not a case she's looking to advocate for. So, yeah, L or L. Yeah. L says yes. Innocent women, not criminals. Yeah. Ariana says you can file a request to get her phone calls. Yeah. Now they're leaking all over the place. They're all over TikTok. They're all over TMZ. TikTok is on it because TikTok was publishing body cam footage and. And audio recordings from her phone calls before TMZ even did. I was seeing all this stuff on TikTok before, even watched the crash. It's kind of what got me interested. I was like, oh, my God, what is this? And then I saw Don and was like, oh, my God, this documentary is so crazy. And I was like, I need to check it out. So I did, and I checked it out. Good. She commented on it. That's a classy response. Yeah. She's obviously not going to fight for mackenzie. I mean, I don't think. I think only people that are, like, delusional believe that mackenzie is actually telling the truth. I don't even believe that Mackenzie forgot what happened. Like, I think that's all a total lie. Susan says nobody believes she was wrongfully convicted. I don't even think her parents believe that. I can't tell if her parents are full on delusional or what. But, I mean, the part that's also kind of strange is that the mom's admitting that even the grandparents spoke this gibberish, weird language, right? And it was kind of like a code that they would use their household. So I'm thinking the shady business had to have gone all the way up to the grandparents. And that's how mackenzie fell into this, you know, because, I mean, we. I think we're all pretty clear after my deep dive last week that she was clearly. Her and Dom were very likely dealing d u r g s. They were dealing the substances. They were selling them on the side. And bubba and Rosie were probably in on it, too. I don't know that for certain, but I'm just saying they were associated with. I mean, when they found Mackenzie in the car crash, she had a scale in her purse, didn't she, with some mushrooms. Why would you have a scale if you're not dealing? You know? So I think it's. It seems obvious in my personal opinion, that they were likely to be selling some substances. And I think the mom probably knew about it and was totally cool with it and maybe even like, helped her daughter get into it. There's a reason you have gibberish, right? There's a reason you have some sort of secret language that you teach to the next generation and the generation after. You're teaching them your shady ways. You're teaching them how to speak in code. And why are you teaching them how to speak in code? Well, there's a reason the grandparents were carnies. Now it all makes sense. Shake my head. Yeah. So I feel like there was a generational thing that was going on here. Maybe she was on weight watchers. I mean, maybe. That's a very good point. She was just checking her macros. That's why she needed the scale. Elle says raised in discourse and allowed freedom to do whatever, like wild as parents to be this way that when they were with her naughty my eyes Yeah, I mean, they were. The crazy part is they allowed mackenzie to live with Dom. Like, obviously dom has passed away. And I think that that's unfortunate, but I don't think dom was as innocent. And I think that's also why Dom's mom didn't want to participate in the documentary. I think the mom knew some of the stuff that Dom is up to. And listen, a lot of times when your teens are doing stuff like this, not in every instance, because sometimes some parents are just off working and doing their own thing. They're so busy they're not keeping up with what's going on with their teens. But a lot of times parents do know what their teens are up to. A lot of times the parents are aware of what's going on and they, you know, it helps pay the bills. And the parents, like, either, if not fully involved in it, like, or at least aware of it and are benefiting from that line of work. And from what we've seen, Dom and mackenzie had stacks of money. They had lots of designer items. So they were living together, which also crazy that at 17 years old she was living with Dom who was 20 and then what? When she was 13 and he was 16, that's when they started dating. When do you ever let your 13 year old date a 16 year old again? Also crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. Mackenzie has shown no remorse. No, she's shown absolutely no remorse. Don also made money trading crypto. Yeah, that's that. That's the story is that he traded crypto. That's how he made his money. Is trading crypto okay? Sure, we'll go with that. Wink, wink. The really little babies. I mean, 13 and 16. Yeah. Which again, how do you not know what your 13 year old is up to? You know, I don't know. I just feel like there's a lot more that the parents knew. I think that's why the mom wanted her phone so badly. I think that's why mom wanted access to snapchat, as snapchat is probably where a lot of means of communication were. I know that there were some sort of rumblings that it's possible that mackenzie was trading photos of herself for money as well. That, you know, obviously she was underage so she couldn't join a website like onlyfans. It was possible that she was doing other things with snapchat, but I'm also thinking, what if it wasn't even like naughty photos? What if it was more, you know, the dru g s that and that's how she was doing it. Was through. Rather than a burner phone, you run it on Snapchat. Because Snapchat deletes all the messages. None of the messages are saved. So that's possible because don't they. They get erased within, like, 20. You have some that erase instant upon opening, and then you have others that erase within 24 hours. But regardless, it's. Snapchat is not designed to be saved. And you can't screenshot things. It doesn't. The app doesn't allow you to screenshot. So. Also very strange. Strange, strange, strange. But that's. That's where I leave you. Okay, moving on. Let's talk. Oh, Chelsea Handler. Chelsea Handler is getting dragged. So Chelsea Handler did the. The roast of Kevin Hart, which I thought it was. I mean, it was very dark. It was very cutthroat. But that's a roast, and Netflix obviously streamed the roast, and none of the jokes were cut. Like, I think Netflix has kind of really leaned into the, like, we're fighting for free speech, and we're going to put the good and the bad all out there. And Chelsea Handler was one of the comedians that participated in the Rose, and she. The roast was hosted by comedian Shane Gillis, but also in the roast were other comedians. Cheryl Underwood was one of them. Regina hall was one of that. She's the one from Scream, the Scream movies. I believe she was there promoting Scream. But Tony Hitchcliffe, he's. His name is Kill Tony, or like, that's his nickname, his handle that people know him by. So Shane Gillis and Tony Hitchcliffe were two people that Chelsea Handler was gunning for because they made, you know, some jokes that people thought were insensitive or insulting. Or they made jokes about, like, Cheryl Underwood's husband who had committed suicide during their marriage. They also made jokes about, I believe Shane Hitchcliffe made a joke about George Floyd. And, like, listen, this is the intention of a roast. It's blue and black comedy, right? Blue and black humor, which means, like, dark humor. Black humor means dark, like, dark comedy. Blue means, like, a little dark, but, like, you know, it's a little distasteful, but it's not full on. Whereas, like, I think the style of this roast were meant to be blue and black humor, right? Not to be confused with, like, black, as in the color of a person's skin. I know that's been misconstrued, but those are traditional terms that were known for more certain dark comedy, as in, like, you know, more inappropriate jokes, not necessarily about a person's race or the color of their Skin, but about the level of how deep the jokes cut, how insulting the humor can be. And so Chelsea Handler took huge aim at Shane Gillis and Tony Hinchcliffe. Tony, he was the one there was like a big controversy. He performed at one of like Trump's rallies during his campaign. And he made the joke about Puerto Rico that everybody was so offended by it, they're like, oh my God, he made a joke about Puerto Rico. And like, that didn't go over well. But so anyway, Shane and Tony. Well, Tony, Shane was the host, but Shane and Tony, Chelsea Handler did not like, she made her jokes, she'd aimed jokes at them. And afterwards she's talked about the roast and she was just like, she didn't like it. She didn't want to be a part of it. Although it seemed like she had a great night. And even that night, she posted about what a great night that she had, she did to support Kevin Hart, who she's good friends with. And then she like trash the roast afterwards, specifically Shane and Tony. And the, the interesting thing is she kept like calling them racist and sexist. And to me, I was kind of just like, why? Why do the roast then? You know, like, why even bother doing, like, going to support Kevin? Like, why even go. It was Dan Cole's funny knowing you podcast that she was on. And she calls that. She said, I knew enough about T.O. and Shane, they're racists, they're bigots, they're sexist. And then she said that their jokes were worse than rip, which is crazy. And like, I don't know, my thing is, like, what happened to Chelsea Handler? She used to be funny, she used to be interesting, she used to be quick witted. And now she just comes across as like this entitled, I know better than you snob. As in, like, I need to save the underdog because I'm rich and famous and I can't. Like, it's just, it's very savior complex, right? And like, this is a roast, you know that the jokes are going to be dark. You know that they're going to go for the jugular. I personally thought Chelsea did well at the roast. I thought she was actually really funny. I enjoyed her set better than the clips that were going around of her. I actually watched the roast and I watched her set and I thought she did well, right? She even made a joke about whether or not comedians on stage were gonna, we're gonna end up signing up for the draft and fight the war in the Middle east. Or she. And then the punchline was, or you just do. You only go to the Middle east when you're performing at comedy festivals. And it was a direct nod at the con, the controversy around certain comedians that were going and performing in the Middle east because they were paying a lot of money. But the interesting thing is she took big aim at, like, Tony and Shane, and she was like, are you going to sign up for the draft? Because you're like, you know, Trump supporters and like, he's causing a war in the Middle East. But, like, Shane and Tony didn't even go to the Middle East. Like, it was actually a lot of other comedians that Chelsea seems to have been more friendly with. Like, I just, I don't know why she even did the roast if she was just going to shit on it the entire time. Like, you don't need the money, you don't need the relevance. Like, why go as a favor for Kevin Hart. Well, then do your friend a favor and do him a solid, but then just shit on it after the words, I just think is a little lame. But you're making more of an issue about race jokes than Kevin, who is black. And, you know, he invited you and he invited these people, and he seems to be okay with them. He doesn't think that they're racists and bigots and sexist, and he has not out openly spoken about their joke. So it seems like Kevin is fine. So even Cheryl Underwood, who also happens to be black, she did Shane's podcast with him, and she's even defended Shane and the jokes that they made about her husband committing suicide. I think it was her ex husband, and I believe it's been like 30 years since then. But, you know, I mean, Joan Rivers was a big proponent of that, of, like, if we don't learn to laugh or make fun of fun at these tragedies, then, like, we're only going to cry about them. Like, you have to be able to laugh at these dark and really uncomfortable parts of life because that's how we heal from them, right? That's how we take that power away. You take away the power of pain by replacing it with levity, by replacing it with humor. Right? And if the subject of the night, the subject that invited you, Kevin Hart, if he didn't seem to have an issue with the roast and he didn't seem to have an issue of the jokes, which he was the subject subject of some of these dark jokes. He didn't seem to have an issue with that because everybody walking into that room knew we're going to go hard. We're going to go for the jugular. And they're probably going to pick the most, you know, painful or difficult or whatever parts of you in your life to exploit for the sake of the punchline. That's what you are signing up for, you know. But now Chelsea Handler, she's now coming in, and all of her past jokes are now being pulled into question because she used to make a lot of stereotype jokes. She used to, you know, I mean, her behavior in the past has always been, you know, she was never a darling. She always was difficult to work with behind the scenes. She was always drunk and, like, mean to people. And, like, that was kind of part of her. Her. Her brand, her reputation, her humor. Right. She wrote a whole book called Chai's Lies that Chelsea Handler told me, which was about how she would pull these, like, big, elaborate, often really mean pranks on the staffers that worked on Chelsea lately. And they all wrote a book about it and collectively shared their stories about all the crazy things and all the punking and jokes that Chelsea would pull on them, all the pranks that she would pull. Like, she would write jokes and, like, make them believe that they got jobs that they wanted and then be like, lol, just kidding. That's. That wasn't even a real job for you. And so she's like, you know, that's just part of her brand. So now a lot of people are pulling a lot of that past behavior into question, being like, you have so many issues with other people making jokes, but yet look at your own past behavior. Look at your own racist jokes that you've made before. Look at all the things that you've done and said as part of your own problematic past. Now, to be fair, there was a chunk of time where Chelsea went for the jugular, and then she had this whole, like, awakening back in. I think it was the 2016 election that really kind of shifted how she approached things and what, you know, she was speaking about or joking about. And I think in the last 10 years has really evolved into this more, you know, outwardly spoken advocacy activism woke sort of rhetoric that she pushes out. But, yeah, she's changed a lot. I miss Chelsea. I feel like we should make Chelsea funny again. She has moments where she is funny. And I've always been a big Chelsea supporter. I used to watch Chelsea lately. I used to watch Chelsea on Netflix. I loved her docu series where she's like, chelsea does drugs. Chelsea does Silicon Valley. Like, I always did find her funny. I used to go see her live when she would go on tour. I bought all of her books. She's become a lot less funny to me. I think once comedians reach a certain level where they have money and they're in a different income bracket and they're in a different bubble in the world where they're no longer in touch with the regular everyday person, their humor, it gets a little more challenging because their humor is no longer relatable. They're no longer relatable. And I think Chelsea Handler has absolutely fallen into that bracket. But, yeah, we'll see. We shall see. But she's now getting dragged. All of her old jokes are getting pulled into question. Other comedians. Like, there was one Asian comedian who came out and he's like, she made these. These, like, stereotype jokes about Asian people, about Angelina Jolie and her son Maddox, who at the time she had just adopted. And she's like, oh, little does he know he's going to grow up to be a bad driver. And like, that was one of the jokes that she made. And I guess there was so much backlash for that joke being said that this Asian comedian who is supposed to follow Chelsea, they weren't. They didn't allow him to make any jokes that were stereotypical about the Asian community because there was so much outrage over the joke that Chelsea made about Maddox and Angelina Jolie. So he was just like, well, see, she's over here screwing up opportunities for me, who's an actually Asian comedian, because she didn't care about how flippant her comments were and how people were going to get offended by that. So, yeah, I don't know. But I just. I. I do miss the old Chelsea sometimes. I do miss the old Chelsea. And my whole thing is, again, you signed up for a roast, and why sign up for a roast and then complain about the experience of a roast when you kind of already know what you're going to be getting, right? Like, when you sign up to play in the NFL, you know that there's possibly going to be some injuries. You. You can't sign up to play tackle football in the NFL. And then you complain when you get tackled, and you're like, wait, he hit me hard. And it's like, what? And you're like, he hit me hard and I sprained my ankle. It's like, well, but you knew the casualties. You knew the risks. You knew that going on the field, you were going to get tackled and you could likely get hurt. You knew the risks going into it. You knew what you signed up for. You can't go and participate in a tackle football field and then be like, oh, my God, that's barbaric. That, you know, how can we celebrate going on the field and tackling each other and hurting each other? It's like you signed up to play tackle football for the NFL. Like, you knew what you were signing up for. You knew that it was going to be a bunch of people that were going to be tackling each other. Right? Bubbly says, right. Owie. That hurt, mommy. Yeah, yeah. Like you. You can't cry about it afterwards. You can't cry that you got tackled right or that you got hurt when you knew what you were signing up for. Nick. I wish Nikki. Yeah. Nikki Glaser is a great roaster. I don't know why she wasn't at this one. She was at the Tom Brady roast. Savage killed it. She was great. So I don't know why she wasn't at this one. Yes. Thank you, Christina. Shout out to Christina and Lara. Our mods love Christina and Lara. Christina says, remember, hit the like button, guys. If you're watching this right now and you believe it's time to make Chelsea Handler funny again, hit that like button. Make Chelsea funny again.
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Visit your nearby Lowe's. So yeah, Alexandra says Chelsea was speaking to the fact that they're conservative racists in real life. Well, that's what's funny too is people like to just assume that that being conservative automatically makes you racist, which I find so outrageous. But the funny thing was Shane Gillis posted a photo because obviously these comedians don't write all these jokes Themselves, they have teams of people that write the jokes for them. Shane Gillis, who Chelsea Handler called sexist and racist, he was like, that's funny that you're calling me sexist and racist. And then he showed his team of writers that prepared these racist jokes for him for that night, and most of them were black. He had a predominantly diverse group of writers that wrote his jokes for that night. So, yeah, that's why it was crazy that people are just like, well, he happens to be conservative, so he's racist. And he's like, really? This is interesting that I'm hearing that I'm racist. And they even had an interesting conversation when Cheryl Underwood also happens to be black, also happened to have jokes made about her husband who committed suicide 30 years ago. She kind of. I wouldn't say directly defended Shane and Tony, but, like, she went on Shane's podcast and they talked about it, right? And she, you know, and they were able to have a. I thought, productive conversation. Let me see if I can pull up Shane's actual Instagram post that people can see that I'm not. Because he posted the photo of his comedy writers, and he's just like, chelsea Handler's calling me. Oh, here we go. Because it's like, how do you call someone racist when the. Because based off of the jokes that they're saying. When the jokes that he's saying, like, his team is predominant. Look at 1, 2, 3, 3 three black dudes on his team of writers. And he tagged them and everything. He says, the guys who wrote my jokes. So, yeah, I mean, and he did it as a friend of Kevin Hart's. Kevin who asked him to do it. Kevin who, you know, thanked him afterwards. Kevin who was a big supporter and a big fan. That's why I don't know how you can work with people of color and be friends with people of color and, like, have a good relationship and then still be considered racist when there's nothing about you that has any fear or ill intent or malice towards any of those people. I don't know. So interesting. It's always white people saying other people are racist. I mean, that's a good point. Listen, I think we should just need to respect each other, love each other, and respect each other for our good and bad traits and just, you know, try our best to find the light and the levity and the humor and cut everybody a little bit of slack, because life is hard enough. And the less we fling mean words at each other and the less we try to point fingers and label each Other and can just all try to walk together and do life as best as we can collectively together. Then that's how we, I think, and collectively heal. Zach's birthday's up next. Yes. My birthday is 10 days away. June 15th. It's coming up. I'm gonna be 33. Okay, that's Chelsea. Ooh, Camille Grammar. Real Housewives of Ultimate Girls Trip. So Camille Grammer was just on Crystal Minkoff and Cynthia Bailey's podcast, which. I mean, is that podcast even any good? I kind of feel like. I don't know. I'm a little like, I don't listen to them. I'm not really interested in them. But anyway, Camille was on Crystal and Cynthia's podcast talking about. They asked her about Real Housewives Ultimate Girls trip, the one that taped in Morocco, the one that's been on hold because Caroline Manso launched lodged allegations against Brandi Glanville, where she was just like, oh, my God, Brandi was so inappropriate. And, like, she. You know, remember, she's like, I'm triggered, and Brandi touched me, and it triggered past whatever. Well, now Camille Grammer is coming out and speaking out about that trip to Morocco, saying that she hopes that it does, at some point, come to light that she would like to see them actually release it, because there's nothing that happened in that podcast that she hasn't experienced in years prior with Brandy. She's like, you know, like, Brandy is Brandy. You know, Brandy. You know, Brandy's gonna do and say crazy things, but at the end of the day, like, Brandi is Brandy. And there's nothing that I witnessed while filming Ultimate Girls Trip that I haven't seen on these Housewives shows in seasons in the past. She also says that as Brandy was coming on to Caroline, that. That Caroline actually seemed to be enjoying it, and she seemed to be engaging with her in it, and that everybody seemed to be having a good time until something happened in the bathroom. And she says, that's where, I guess things changed. She's like, I wasn't in the bathroom. I didn't see what happened in the bathroom. But Brandi was being Brandy. You know that Brandy's gonna get drunk and slobber all over you, and she's like. And it seemed like Caroline was very much, like, engaging with it and enjoying it. And I do think it was one of those things where, I think, you know, everyone had, like, a cocktail in them, and nobody was really thinking anything through. And. And it was more of, like, Caroline was just in the moment, and they were all kind of having fun and being silly. And then it was more of, like, afterwards, it's like, oh, shit, this is. We're on tv. We're going to. Which does happen, you know, when you're filming. At first you're aware of the cameras, but as time goes on, you kind of forget. You forget that you're, you know, if you're drunk and everybody's just kind of being silly, like, you kind of aren't really remembering that the cameras are there or how it's going to be edit. Like, you're not often always thinking about all of those things. There are moments where you just kind of let your guard down. That's where you see a lot of those, like, messy moments or hot mic moments. And I guess something happened in the bathroom. Alex McCord and Gretchen Rossi, I believe, and Phaedra Parks, I believe, were all in the bathroom with Caroline and Brandy and have all said that, like, they don't remember seeing what Caroline accused Brandy of, which was, I think, groping her. And Caroline claims that, like, she was groped and she was locked in the bathroom, and they wouldn't let her out of the bathroom, which was also strange that they wouldn't, like, the producers would keep them locked in the bathroom. I don't think that. That. I don't know. That just would be a weird thing if Caroline's, like, begging to get out and, like, Brandy's, like, having her shoved against the wall and, like, no, you can't leave. And then Alex, Gretchen, and Phaedra are all, like, in the bathroom with them and, like, not stopping anything. If it was truly, like, something, you know, I don't know. I don't know. But I do hope that we do get to see Ultimate Girls Trip, because based off of the investigation that they, you know, dug into, none of the women claimed to have remember seeing anything based off. And Brandi was like, everything was caught on camera. Everything was. We were all mic'd up so you would hear everything. And from what I remember, when they reviewed all of the audio, there wasn't anything that Caroline, like, disputed or said no. Or, like, don't do that. Or, like, from what I remember, it wasn't anything like, nothing. It wasn't. There was no conclusion that supported Caroline's version of events, which is why Bravo was fighting her lawsuit. And they put all of the footage on the court docket. I'm hoping that the footage gets released at some point because my understanding is they have edited all of the episodes. They have the masters for those episodes that were submitted on the docket as well as all the raw footage. And Bravo said, here, we're going to put in everything on the court docket so that the judge can review it and see nothing happened. And Brandi's been, like, begging them to release the footage or release the audio. She's like, we were mic'd up. At the very least, if there's no footage of it, at least all of our mics were on. So you can hear Phaedra's mic, Gretchen's mic, Alex's mic, Brandy's mic, Caroline's mic. Everybody was mic'd up. So all of whatever happened was documented. But Caroline said that it was more than just was in the bathroom. It was outside of the bathroom that she was, like, you know, Brandi was shoving her tongue down her throat and grabbing her her and touching her. But according to the other women, like, they. Everybody was being drunk and silly and kind of just, like, engaged in this. And everybody was kind of, like. Kind of feels like she had regrets afterwards about, like, realizing, like, oh, shoot, I'm a grandma. Things are being recorded. This is going to air. I'm gonna be embarrassed by this. Like, my husband's gonna be embarrassed by me because I'm, like, letting loose and making out with women on camera and, like, you know, I don't know. I don't know. But I guess I hope we'll see the footage at some point. But it kind of seems like Caroline may have just gotten embarrassed and didn't want any of that caught on camera. But according to the other women, nobody seemed to be backing up Caroline's account of what happened. And the footage doesn't seem to back that up either. And the producers don't seem to back that up either. So I don't know how her lawsuit's gonna end up prevailing, but we'll see what happens. I believe it's still in motion. All right. That said anything? Oh, Brandi Glanville also came out over the weekend. I'm sure you'll appreciate this headline. Brandi says that she believes that she has ringworm. She has an sti, and the STI is ringworm in her neck. So, yeah, she thinks that she caught ringworm or. Sorry, not neck in her throat. She thinks that she has sexually transmitted ringworm in her throat. Susie says she said her face was from blow jobs. I mean, Munchausen is really what it seems like Munchausen is. Robin says, I think Caroline didn't want stuff that was said about Dina on tv. I think that was a big part of it too, that there were other things that were said on high. Sullivan. There were other things that were said on the show that Caroline didn't want aired. And specifically about Dina, because I guess Brandi grilled her about Dina or defended Dina, something I don't know. But I'm sure there. There's something that Caroline doesn't want seen, and that's why she's pushing forth all of this litigation, in my opinion. But I don't know if Brandi actually does have sexually transmitted ringworm in her throat. I think Brandi is a little cuckoo crazy. I think Brandy's. She's lost it and needs a little. Little help, but. Hi, Sullivan. Hi, baby. You know I'm trying to work. I know it's a holiday, but Sully, I guess, was jealous because Skye's right here asleep right behind me. Skye snuck into the studio before I started taping, and Sully was outside of the studio and he learned how to open the door. He learned how to open the door with his paws. He opened the door and he just let himself into the studio. Now he's like, give me attention. What is it, my love? Can you see him working? I'm trying to pay the bills. I'm trying to pay for your. Your dinner. All right, on that note, love ya. Appreciate you. Hit the like button. Hit the subscribe button. If you want to become a member of no Filter All Access, then you can get completely ad free, Free episodes. 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Podcast: No Filter With Zack Peter
Episode: Kim Kardashian Shuts Down MacKenzie Shirilla, Chelsea Handler DRAGGED for Past Jokes, & RHUGT Tea
Date: May 25, 2026
Host: Zack Peter
This episode serves up the latest hot topics in pop culture and reality TV:
Timestamps: 04:30–11:00
“So the character that dies… it’s Jacob Elordi. He gets buried alive… a snake comes down into the hole and then the snake starts attacking him. And so the snake kills Jacob Elordi.”
Timestamps: 18:34–36:40
“There’s a reason you have some sort of secret language that you teach to the next generation and the generation after. You’re teaching them your shady ways.” [27:47]
“Kim advocates for criminal justice reform by supporting individuals she believes were wrongfully convicted… This case does not fall within her focus.” [35:30]
Timestamps: 36:40–46:14
“Why do the roast then? …You signed up for a roast, and why sign up for a roast and then complain about the experience of a roast when you kind of already know what you’re going to be getting, right?” [44:06]
“Now a lot of people are pulling a lot of that past behavior into question, being like, you have so many issues with other people making jokes, but yet look at your own past behavior.” [44:01]
Timestamps: 46:14–End
| Topic | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------| | Memorial Day, TV Binges and Euphoria Spoilers | 04:30–11:00 | | MacKenzie Shirilla Case Overview & Gibberish Code | 18:34–27:47 | | Kim Kardashian’s Statement on Shirilla | 35:30 | | Chelsea Handler Roast Aftermath | 36:40–46:14 | | Shane Gillis’s Writers Team & Racism Claims | 46:14–49:30 | | Camille Grammer on RHUGT Morocco Scandal | 49:30–End | | Brandi Glanville’s StI/Ringworm Allegation | ~1:09:00 |
For reality TV and pop culture tea, Zack Peter’s ‘No Filter’ lives up to its name—direct, detailed, and never dull.