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Man DETAINED at Nancy Guthrie's Home! Plus Michael Rapaport Dishes on the Traitors Reunion!
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Well, we have another man that has been detained in the Nancy Benet Ramsey case. Crazy, crazy night. We have a Traders finale. We have a Denise Richards divorce update, lots that we'll be getting into. And I have a very special guest that's going to be dishing on this traitor's finale and reunion. I hope you're ready for it. Let's dive in. This is no filter with Zack Peter your go to source for all the latest pop culture and reality TVT surf fresh all week long. Now let's dive in. What's up, guys? Welcome on in. Welcome on in. Welcome on in. Everybody in the club. What's up, everybody? Hello. Happy Friday. It is Friday. I'm just gonna let you know we're starting out hot today. Okay. And we are getting into Traders spoilers. Okay. We're, we're just going to get into all the Trader stuff up front and then we will get into the Nancy Guthrie updates in the second half of the show. So I'm just letting you guys know up front because I do have Michael Rappaport who's supposed to be calling in in just a bit to give us his thoughts live from New York straight after the Traders reunion and finale. So I'm just letting you guys know that now we are starting off, starting things off with Traders. I'll give you a Denise Richards divorce update. Remind me there is an Erika Jayne trial update as well. I guess the update is that it's been pushed to May. It's May, I believe May 16th is when the trial is set to begin. Her trial with the bankruptcy trustee, which is interesting because that is the same week that Justin and Blake are going to trial. So I, it looks like it that. Yeah, the week of the 18th. I would assume the 16th is, is a, is a Saturday. When does Erica Jane go to trial? Let me just. I thought I saw somebody. It was supposed to be February and then it got pushed back. May 19th. Oh, so the same day, not the 16th. I got that mixed up. It's the same day. Erica's going to try the same day as Blake and Baldoni. Whoo. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Boy, oh, boy, oh, boy. Mama mia. Okay, we. So there we go. We will have a busy, busy week. That week we have both Erika Jane and Blake Lively that will be going to trial on the 19th. Now this is. It's not a criminal. Neither one are criminal trials. Erica's is the. It's regarding the 25 million that the bankruptcy is trying to fire for. I know we haven't covered that Case in a while. It's kind of been a little dormant, but we'll see. It seems like they were trying to have some settlement negotiations, and they haven't gone through, but I will keep you guys posted on that. But we, of course, are gonna talk all things traders, and I have a very special guest with me today who's going to be spilling all sorts of Traders finale and reunion dish because he was there live, and he is now calling in live from New York, Michael Rapaport. How are you, Zach?
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How you doing?
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I'm great. The most faithful of the faithful is here today.
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B
The most faithful, dopest, best looking, most bullied. I was bullied in there, Zach.
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They. They came for you.
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It came for me, but I had a good time, and, you know, people enjoyed the season, and I. I'm a fan of the show, and that's what got me on to the show, so I had a good time. It was a trip, though. It was fun.
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So what was your. We had the. The finale and the reunion last night. What was your reaction to the finale? We had the final five, which narrowed down to the final three, which were Rob, Eric, the two traitors, and then Maura, and ultimately Maura and Rob made it to the final two, where Rob just completely snatched it from her.
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Eric, with the magic ears, is a better man than me because he.
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He.
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He's really. He's really a victim. He's. He's a victim in. In. In. You know, and of course, Maura, poor thing, you know, tinking isn't something that, you know, she. That comes easy to her. So. So she was. She was used and abused the entire time. But Eric really, you know, it kind of overshadowed how. How bad he got played. But, you know, listen, it's a show, and people love the show. I love the show. It's fun. There's twists, there's turns. They do an incredible job of sort of streamlining these. These narratives for so many people. You know, there's. This starts with 23 people, and to keep it moving, keep it focused, you can only put so much stuff in. You could only, you know, keep. There's hours and hours and hours and hours of footage. But I thought it was a great season. I thought it was a great ending. And, you know, you know, Maura has to dust herself off now, but, you know, she's. She's up. She's bringing the feminine. The feminine movement back by getting, you know, Rob to get her a. A ballman. What kind of bag is it?
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A Birkin.
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Birkin Bag. Birkin bag. So. So, you know, that's good. And, you know, some of the great feminists are kicking and screaming in their grave. You've got a Birkin bag. Solves everything in 2026.
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Listen, it really does. That's one thing that women, most women will. Will cry. They'll bear that cross as long as there's a Birkin at the end of it. So did you think Rob deserved to win? I mean, I think he played the best game. He. I mean, not only was he the faithful slayer, but he took out every single traitor in the game and made it to the end unscathed. He.
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B
He played great. You could. You could love it, you could not like it. You know, the name. It is a game. And there. There's the name of the game is to win. And he did what he needed to do to win the game. And, you know, he did it. He did it in very, very, very well. And he slayed. He took them all out. He took them all out. And, you know, and he deserved it.
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Did you expect to last longer in the game? You kind of tiny. You made it about halfway through, but I feel like your mouth really got you in trouble. And then they were gunning for you to the point where they didn't even care if you were faithful. They just wanted you out of the castle.
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Well, you know, first of all, I. To be totally honest, you know, and this is just who I am as a person, you know, I wasn't in there for the money or for the win. I was, like, looking at myself like I was like, performing in a reality TV show that I like. And, And, and, and, like, probably, like, I don't know, a week into it, I literally, you know, they asked me something about it when during one of the interviews, and it dawned on me like, yo, there's money to win. But. But at that point, you know, like, my strategy had went out of the door, you know, and that's the truth. Like, I. I was kind of, like, trying to be as entertaining as I could, and then some of that was backfiring. So then I'm like, well, I don't want to leave, but, you know, I also don't want to, like, you know, try to be something I'm not. And. And. And just. I don't know. I mean, there's ways to play it in hindsight is 20 20, you know, as far as, you know, them wanting me out, that's not really the reality because they were coming at me and they were coming at Ron that night. It was either going to be me or Ron. And obviously the thing that happened with me and Colton sweet swayed the vote. But I don't remember what the number was when I got voted out, but it was still a close vote. You know, I think that, you know, if. If they had just let me in. Colton, who can defend himself and talk for himself and he's a big if. If, you know, Johnny Weir and the rest of the pearl clutchers. The pearl clutchers, if they let me and him, you know. You know, talking out, I. I don't think it would have gotten as dramatic as it was was. But I thought it was interesting that Johnny Weir and the pearl clutchers when they were going at Colton at the reunion, Johnny Weir and the pro clutches didn't. They didn't intervene. But when it was me going at Colton, they. They felt the need, especially Johnny weird to intervene. So that was the thing. If you were skipping to the reunion, that was the thing that was trying to get out. But I kept getting interrupted. And you know what's funny, Zach, is they say that I talk so much, but every time I spoke in the castle, at the table and at the reunion, I was the one getting interrupted.
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Yeah. And so with the Colton thing, though, I feel like that they used that as an opportunity to get you out. Going back to that. To your final. To that final banishment you had referenced. And was there anything specific that you were referencing when you said that Colton would make a great trader? Which I clocked right away. And that's just me watching. You know, growing up on reality tv, I see when people are playing the games for the cameras and I very clearly saw that they turned that around to then use it to make it seem like you were being homophobic in some way, which is not how I read it at all. I thought it was a convenient opportunity for Colton to try and take a jab at you.
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I think it was.
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What.
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In regards to Colton, he. He, you know, took it how he took it, and I understand that's. That's how he took it. And you know, I've talked about this really kind of ad nauseum, but the reality of it is is I was riffing. I was talking about commiserating, conniving, colluding. And to be totally honest, when I was doing that, I had been talking for maybe like, I don't know, a minute straight and I thought some, you know, a minute when you're shooting is a long time. I thought someone was going to interrupt me and I kind of repeated myself and you know, no one stopped me. And then, you know, I had heard Colton say something earlier in the day about secrets. And, you know, when you're in the castle, like if somebody scratches their face, you're like, they're lying. And he said the word secret earlier. So I was like. And that's where it came from. You know, that's where it was in my head. But, you know, I didn't want to offend him. I didn't want to offend anybody. You know, as much as I like to talk trash, I do not like to offend anybody. I don't like to be disrespectful. I like to keep it in the parameters of what people call tea shade. You know, we grew up calling it snapping. When it goes further than that, I'll acknowledge it, and I did in the moment. But, you know, Johnny Weir and the Pearl Clutchers, they, you know, they added insult to injury, but it played out the way it was. But I will, I will say that that night, if I had been a little bit, it was either going to be me or Ron and, and, you know, I was the one that, you know, got, got, got sent.
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How are you and Johnny? Things were a little tense between you at the reunion. Have things.
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I'm just lucky I made it out of there alive because, you know, I found out some of the things about Johnny's past and I'm lucky that I, you know, nothing. I'm lucky that I made it out of there alive. And I was glad that he wasn't at the reunion. He was doing the Olympics, but who knows what could have happened to me? Like, I feel like, you know, he's a bully. He, he is a gaslighter and he, you know, you know, he didn't defend Colton or anybody else. You know, when, when Ron cursed it. Dorinda, Johnny and the Pearl Clusters didn't say anything. They didn't even bat an eye. So, you know, it's sort of a pick and choose thing. It's very much of the time in 2026, you know, but, you know, like, I thought he was a silver medalist. I didn't know that he didn't win any medals in the Olympics. Like, if, if you're going to tell me to leave the castle, you need to have a gold medal. Like I need Mary Lou Retton, I need Carl Lewis in there. I need like the hockey gold medals. I need some gold medal people if they're going to talk trash to me and tell me get out of their castle.
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Yeah, I'm giving You, I'm giving you.
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I'm giving you shade. You know, shady.
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I like the shade. I know the shade.
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I know you do.
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Now, speaking of shade, I feel like Rinna was a little, she tried to poke at Colton at the reunion, and we did hear that there was, like, Colton really kind of got his ass handed to him at the reunion, and Rinna teased that she's on her book tour right now. We didn't really see that, though. I feel like we got, like, a small clip of her talking about the word hostage and why would he use the word hostage? That it was within the context. Yeah, yeah, she went, we all know why she went there.
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You know, I, I, I don't remember all that was at the reunion, but you. What was in the, what was in the final cut was for the most part there. Me, personally, I, and I like Lisa. The thing about the Lisa Colton thing is, you know, she went online and she, you know, said something about stalker during the, during the middle of product, you know, when the two shows were airing. And, you know, I, like I said, you know, everybody's done things in their past. I'm not one to judge. I don't, I think it's irresponsible, disrespectful, and inappropriate for someone in the cast while the show is airing who's already getting pounded on social media. He's, yeah, this is a man. This is a man with a family. This is a father. He's not perfect. I'm not perfect. I'm sure you're not perfect. I know Lisa's not perfect. And, you know, for that to happen while the shows were airing and then continue pounding on him and in a way, sort of bullying him at the reunion, I'm not, I'm not down with that. I'm not with it. I'm not, I don't support it. I don't think it's cool. I don't think it's cool to kick somebody when they're down. He had, you know, you know, people have their thoughts and their opinions. Social media can be brutal. It was disgusting and brutal what he was going through during the show. And, you know, I'm not down with it. And, you know, in regards to, you know, people watching the show, I'm a fan, too. I like to talk myself. But if, if a person that you're watching on Traders or the Housewives, when they go, it's the worst thing I've ever seen. It's so revolting. You can turn the channel. You cannot watch it if it's so revolting. You know, you can. You can stop watching instead of going on TikTok and trying to make, you know, $17 off of a, you know, a post.
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Yeah. And listen. And I think I made a video about that, too. I was like, I get it that everybody's dragging up again. I go, but at what point do we allow people to move forward and show us that they've changed? And I said, his behavior has not been, in recent years, has not been indicative of, you know, what his past has reflected. And nobody's condoning his past. He's not condoning his past. He has owned up to it. It was settled in court. And, like, at some point, you have to allow people to move forward, and if they continue to show you that they're shitty people, then you judge them based off of that behavior and their character in the moment and instead of continuing to go backwards. I agree.
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And that's what, you know, when I saw you, that's how I met you. We haven't met in person, but, you know, I saw your commentary on it and I thought it was very fair and also very funny. And you're a shady. You're a shady person yourself.
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I got a copy of it. Yes. I'll be checking it out. I'll be checking it out. I like Lisa. Lisa's fun, Lisa's entertaining. And, you know, Lisa very, very savvy with what she does.
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I agree. I mean, listen, Lisa, you have to admit, is the star of this season, even though she didn't make it all the way. And she was, you know, the first traitor outside of Donna, but I don't count Donna outside of Donna. She was the first one to get banished. The first traitor. But she was talked about and known throughout the entire show and owned that reunion. I mean, 80% of the reunion was centered around Lisa. What.
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What did you think as a fan and as a viewer watching the reunion? Like, what is your takeaway of the reunion?
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There was a lot that I feel like I, that I would have liked them to. I understand that, like, It's. You have 23 people, you're trying to give everybody camera time. And I feel like that was the harder thing, like I said very early. And I was like, let's not give Donna Kelsey a 10 minute segment about her being the secret. I was like, nobody cares. She fumbled the ball. It's fine. We can move like some of the people we can move on from or like the other Rob, like, you know, some of them didn't bring as much to the show that we didn't need to give them all the camera time that they needed. I thought you were great, and I thought Lisa and Candace really held the reunion down. We didn't even really hear a whole lot from Rob the winner. I feel like he had his moment, but, like, I feel like the housewives definitely carried the reunion. Portia eliminated, first one banished, and yet she held it down when she walked on that stage.
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They know how to do a reunion. And I think, you know, Rob was, was, wasn't as, you know, wasn't as, didn't have as much, you know, to say because I don't think he was getting fed lines the way he might have been getting fed during his confession. I, I'm not, I'm not saying that he was or he wasn't, but I'm just saying that I do think that's why he might not have been as interesting at the reunion. Because, you know, during the interviews, I, I, you know, I think that, you know, he might have, he might have been, you know, giving, getting some, some cues. I'm giving you some, Zach. I'm giving you so much like I'm giving you in between the lines here. Shit. I hope you're catching on this.
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Do you think that there was like a, A plan to help get robbed to the end? Do you think that was part of the strategy?
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No, no, I think that the show, number one, you know, there's money on the line and, you know, there's a certain amount of professional integrity that the show absolutely has. But I think that, you know, I think that, you know, everybody, I think the, the production wants everybody to succeed in whatever role they see them as. And, and, and Rob was, you know, his role. You know, Rin is her role on my role. You know, everybody sort of has like a. A storyline that's going to sort of be contrived around what they're doing. And so, no, I don't think there was any, you know, favoritism or anything like that. He played an incredible game. He was great. And, you know, he was under the radar. And, you know, he. He did his thing, however he did it. And, you know, he did. Like I said, he deserved to win. But I don't think there's any funny business with trying to. You know, I think once the game starts, it takes on a life. That's one thing I realized. It takes on a life of its own.
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Yeah. I mean, and listen, the other thing too is, I think because he was so easy on the eyes, people were quick in the castle to kind of just glo. Gloss over and not really look at him outside of being eye candy, because they were just so. I mean, Candace giving them the double vote of Rob. Any gamer should have picked up on that because Rob had just voted out Lisa, which would give Candace motive to go for another traitor. And then she went to him back to back.
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He had the girls and the gays on lockdown. Yeah, he had him on lockdown. He didn't have me on lockdown. Night one. I was the first one. I was like, all that quiet cute crap. And everybody was like, no, why are you saying that? And I was like, because there was this. And then that was sort of the beginning of me sort of backpedaling the whole. The whole time because that. And then, you know, with the Porsche, Candace, you know, saying that I was trying to vote off a housewife, and then, you know, mentioning that I was just doing simple math. I was like, there's five gamers. There's five housewives. This guy is, you know, not saying anything to anybody. He says he speaks only when spoken to. Rob. Love Island. And. And I was just trying to, like, we're there to catch traders. And once I was, you know, not a trader, I felt like it was a weight off my back. And I was like, let let the games begin. And obviously it was a little bit too hot to handle for some people. But, you know, I. I feel like I, you know, those first five episodes, Zach, I was carrying them on my back like an extra. An extra.
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You really were.
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Thank you.
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You really were. You were giving. That's why when everybody was coming for your neck in the early weeks, I was like, he's giving us something to talk about. You and Rinna, I feel like, really held the show down. I have to say, though, I was disappointed in Dorinda. I feel like she didn't give much at all. And then even when she was killed off, it was so lackluster. What did you think of Dorinda's performance in the castle?
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I think that she was happy to be back. I think she probably, you know, haven't spoken to her much about it since. I think she was probably really trying to lay low because she got voted off early last year in season three. You know, she was great. I, you know, with the, when, when, when Ron, when Ron Funches had come at her at the table, she, she was composed, you know, because we, I was sitting next to her when that was happening again. Johnny, we are in the pearl clutches. They said nothing but you know, like Dorinda, you know, she, she, she, she was, you know, I think Dorinda, what we've seen her for on tv, she's really kind of, you know, they say in sports when the, when the game starts to slow down, you know, I think for her, like reality tv, the game is slowed down and she doesn't react as quickly. So I think she did great. She, Dorinda was very fun to be around, very funny and, and very chill and cool. I, I, you know, I've always liked Dorinda and I had a really, really nice time with her.
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We did hear that there was some sort of like, argument that went down with what was it? Dorinda and Ron? Were you there for that?
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Listen, I, I, I, I, I don't think I didn't see any of that. I, I, I didn't see anything. Now I'm, you know, there's so many little conversations and stuff like that, but while I was there, based on what I saw, I saw nothing of the sort of 0.0 of it. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, but I saw nothing. The only thing that I saw that I wish would have made it into the show was Dorindon. Carolyn Stanberry had a, had a, had a good, it was Housewife Heaven. And I was literally like, oh, like, holy, I'm on girls trip. Like I'm right here right now. And Dorinda was doing the Dorinda that you thought you were gonna get. She was doing it. They didn't and they didn't show it. And it's, I don't know what they're, if they're ever going to show that footage, but that was a great Housewife on Housewife scene had nothing to do with Traders. It was just, it was just them two sorting Something out.
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What were they fighting about?
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It was just, you know, I'll let. It wasn't fighting. It was just Carolyn had said something a couple of times, and Dorinda didn't like it, and she was articulating that to her. And I was like this. I was like that. And then other times, I couldn't even look. I was looking at the ground. And Lisa, Rinna was there, and somebody else was there, and I'm shocked. None of that made it into the. Any of the show or the reunion or. It wasn't anything dirty. It wasn't anything, like, crazy scandalous. It was just. You got that fire from Dorinda that we all like when she turns up.
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Yeah, that's what I was expecting Dorinda to bring. And I. I felt like maybe she was just too afraid to cause too many waves, given she was cut so early the season prior. I think so, but I think. Yeah, but I mean, Portia brought it. Candace brought it. Rinna brought it. Like, the Housewives really came in. I mean, and Kristen, you know, she gave a little too. Being one of the Bravo girls, I think everyone forgets that she's part of the Bravo family because she's on Top Chef. But it was a good season. It was a good season. And the final betrayal at the end in the finale with Robin Maura, also, I think the best we've had since season two was when Trishell and CT turned on mj.
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That was brutal. When they turned on him, I screamed at the tv. I screamed at the tv because I love mj. That was nuts. Yeah, it was. Yo. She had no. She. She had no clue.
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He.
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He had her.
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She.
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I don't know if she knows what happened to the. At this, you know, months later, she realizes what happened.
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It's just so crazy because she literally had every one of the final faithful coming to her and giving her such good, convincing arguments. And then at the end, she just turned on all of them.
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She thought she was coupled up and locked off like it was Love Island. It wasn't Love Island. They weren't coming up.
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Yeah, he played. We were gonna sail off fiddle. He really did. And she thought they were gonna sail off into the sunset and. And collect and count that money together. It was a great season, though. And you, I have to say, one of the MVPs of the season. You, Rinna, you and the Housewives, I feel like, really brought it.
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Well, I appreciate it. Yeah, I think the Housewives are always good. It's. It's funny because, you know, I'm such a fan of theirs and. And it was. It was surreal at times and that. And that, you know, mill you to be with the Housers because I'm such a fan of the shows.
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All.
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All five of them. Like, I know all their. Their cadences and their. Their tones, and like, I've watched all five of them for so many years. You. You become so familiar with, like, their moves and. And, you know, it was cool.
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It was good. You did great. I appreciate you coming on. I know you have to head out, but I appreciate you coming in and dishing and hopefully, you know, we have Johnny Weir and. And the Pearl clutchers that'll be clutching at this interview as well.
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Absolutely, Zach. I appreciate you. I love what you do online and, you know, anytime, you know, you. You want to. You want to talk some. Talk some crap. What's up with Guthrie? What's the latest on the Guthrie. I love your. Your. Your Guthrie stuff.
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We not. I mean, not much. The family seems to be piecing out. Savannah reposted one of her old videos. It's crazy, yo. It's crazy.
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2026. For.
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For.
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For it. It's frightening. And let me tell you something, Zach. And now that we're friends, I could. I could. I could say this because I told my wife, I said, listen, if, God forbid, I ever get kidnapped, you better not start off with a $2,500.
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2500.
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Yo, Zach, at least. At least put up 5K in my name. If I'm kidnapped. Please say you'll do that for me.
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Yes, you're more. You're worth more than a stimulus check.
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I mean, $2,500 is wild, crazy for. You're the host of a. I mean, what are we talking about? $2,500 is insulting. And I'm like, no wonder this thing went bad. I hope they find this woman. It's terrible, terrible, terrible. But it's scary that you could do this in 2026 with all the technology and all the devices that this. This could go on like this for some. Listen, such a high profile case.
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I don't think you can do this in 2026 unless you're. You were intentionally trying to conceal things because there's too much footage. There's. Everybody has a gps. You have a GPS in your pocket. She had this woman at a pacemaker that connected to Bluetooth. There are street cameras. There are ring footage cameras, like out there. It's crazy.
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Way it's crazy out there. Anyway, I appreciate your stuff and I appreciate you having me On Zach.
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Thanks, Michael. Have a good one. Michael Rappaport, everybody. Give him some love. If you have not yet watched the finale or the reunion, hopefully I didn't spoil too much for you. But it was good. It was fun, right? I said, I want to start bringing more guests back on the show, like, more interview guests that are on some of these shows that we're watching. So I think that'll be fun. I know we haven't done too many interviews in a minute, but what a time. What a time. What a, what a time. Okay, let's get into our Nancy. Update. Where's Nancy? It is day 27. Nancy Guthrie is still at large. And as of last night, we had a man who is detained. Arrested. Detained. It's uncertain. Officers did take him from Nancy's home. It's uncertain if he was just detained and released or if he was officially, like, arrested and booked. But. So last night, he was reportedly driving around Nancy's house. He. It was reported between 50 and 100 times that he had driven past Nancy Guthrie's house. Okay, I have to. Hold on. Sorry. Liam says, zach, what happened to your shirt? Every time I wear this shirt, the Internet hates it. I just need to trash this. It's actually a. A very nice John Varvatos shirt. And if, you know, John Varvatos, you know, distressed is kind of, you know, the style of John Varvatos. It's like, you know, rugged, distressed. So it's a distressed design on the shirt. People are always like, what were you painting? What is that, dog hair? It's not paint. It's not dog hair. It's literally just the style of the shirt. It's meant to be distressed. It's meant to look distressed, like ripped jeans. Right. It's kind of the style of the shirt. But, yeah, everybody always hates it. They're always like, why are you full of pain? Why were you laying with a bunch of cats? And I know I should know better than to wear this shirt anymore. Anyway, back to Nancy. So last night, there was a man. He was reportedly driving past Nancy Guthrie's home high as a kite, and apparently had a photo of her on his phone from what was reported. And officers showed up. They're like, this is strange. This is really erratic behavior. They seem to have detained him based off of the footage from last night. It didn't seem like he had any handcuffs on, but he was behind. I did see footage of him which appears to have been, like, in the backseat of a cop car. So I'm assuming they took him in, possibly arrested him for driving under the influence or. I don't know if he was intoxicated, but they said that he reeked of marijuana, so smelled like weed, and he was detained last night. But the creepy part is, not only was he driving repeatedly back and forth in front of Nancy's house, but he had a photo of her. Like, literally a photo of her, which is so strange and just weird and creepy. Like, it just gets weirder and creepier and more bizarre by the day. I don't understand what the heck is going on with this case or with just the people around it. It's just whack a doodle crazy time. Whack a doodle crazy town. So that happened. There was new footage that was released yesterday. It was ring footage from what appears to be a neighbor, and it was around the same time that Nancy Guthrie was believed to have been taken from her home. And it was a car that was just speeding down the street. It looked like, from my opinion, like a Range Rover or something. Some people were saying maybe it was like a Kia Soul, but it was like a larger car, and it was zooming down. And so they think that maybe that may have been in connection to whatever went down at Nancy's that may have contained Nancy. As of this morning, Fox News was reporting that I guess there was a source close to the FBI that's denying that the footage is helpful. They say that the footage was a dead end. People were trying to pick apart and see what was going on with the car. Whose car was it? They narrowed it down to a few different options, but it's from my opinion, it looked like a Range Rover, not so much a Kia Soul, but that's where we at, apparently, according to Fox News, and I believe it was a source that reported to TMZ that said that the footage was a dead end. And it wasn't actually. Wasn't actually anything related to Nancy. I don't know how they made that determination or why that, you know, I don't know. Very strange. But we are still. Still got nothing. Still got a whole lot of nothing. So Savannah posted a new video today. Oh, my God. And now she's not even posting videos. Her, like, fresh videos. She's just reposting. She reshared here. Let's pull up Savannah's place. Like, I feel like. And I hate saying this, I truly, truly do, but I just feel like the Guthrie family is. Is less and less interested the longer we go with this case. Like, the more we go, the more and more I feel like they're just. They don't care. Right. So we had this video initially, which is where she first announced the reward, the million dollar reward. Then this morning, she posted a video clip from the Today show, which basically says it's. This woman in Tucson is talking about how you can claim the reward. And if you, you know, are reporting something that could bring Nancy Guthrie home, you can collect the award. The award will likely be given to you in cash. So if you are, you know, worried or concerned about, you know, getting caught, you don't have to, because they'll, like, drop off. How you drop off a million dollars in cash at a neutral location for someone to come and pick up, I don't really know, but they said that that's what they're willing to do, that they will, you know, give you a neutral location. You'll have to confirm with the pin that, you know the money, that you're the one that's entitled to it with the tips that you give, and you can, I guess, walk away. What do you do with $1 million in cash? Like, how do you deposit that? Like, that's all so strange. I don't know. Why isn't any posted anything? I don't know why any hasn't posted anything. But. So Savannah just reshared this clip from the Today show. And then even more bizarre, which, like, okay, fine, it's a clip from the Today show. No biggie. All right, but then she posted this, which is literally the same video she posted three days ago. She just posted it again and says, please bring our mom home. You can be anonymous call the FBI. Like, I remember online seeing people, and they were like, it feels like this is homework for Savannah. And now it kind of feels like it's even like it doesn't take that long to come up and say, hey, guys, I just wanted to say thank you so much for your interest in trying to bring our mother home. I just want to say I'm so grateful for your thoughts and prayers, and I wanted to remind everybody that there is still an FBI reward at large. If you have any information we want to bring our mother home, Please call with any tips. And if you do have a tip that leads to the recovery of our mother, then you are entitled to that million dollars, you can connect with the FBI. They have assured me that you can remain completely anonymous. Thank you so much. Please, please, please keep my mother's story alive. Please keep sending in information we haven't given up yet. Post. See how easy that was? I did that in under two minutes, and I didn't even think of that or script that. That was literally just off the riff. And she just reposted the exact same video. Like what? Like Michael Rappaport said, $2,500. Like, first your mama was worth a stimulus check, and now she's just worth a retweet. Like, just a repost. Like what? But she was even mindful enough to make sure it didn't screw up her feed, right? Because she put a photo of Dancy on the feed to make sure. But it's the video. But. So when you upload a video on Instagram, you can change the COVID photo. It gives you an option to add a custom cover photo. So she added a custom cover photo of Nancy with her dog. What? Okay, I guess. Okay. Like, it does. That video doesn't motivate me to send in tips or to do anything. Like, it's just like, oh, we're hearing that she's leaving Arizona. We're hearing she's getting ready to return to the Today show. We're hearing that she's ready to get back to her life in New York. She's now just reposting old clips of her last video. Like, it's just. What? I don't know, guys. It's weird. Everything about it is weird. Oh, my God. Also saw rumors that Hoda. Oh, Honda being the scenes. Is trying to take her. I think you meant Hoda. Hoda's trying to take her job. I don't know. Did Hoda get fired? I thought Hoda, like, retired, right? No. Is it true that she's returning to the Today show that was reported, I believe, yesterday morning. The reward money will bring out the crazies. I mean, we've already been there. Maybe that's what the guy who got detained or arrested last night, maybe he was driving up, he was trying to get some clues. He was trying to figure out Blue's clues. That's why he had the photo of Nancy and he went to her yard. I don't know. Oh, but they. They did do this, which I think was probably the smartest thing that they could have done in this investigation. They have now installed cameras at Nancy Guthrie's home. What a great idea. Everybody's so creative. What we're 26 days in. I mean, today's 27, but they installed these yesterday, so. 26 days. Days in. 26 days in. And what? Okay, now we're going to install cameras at Nancy's. Okay, it's like, I'm sorry, it's getting weird. Like, are we getting ready for the summer barbecue for Annie and Tommaso? Because the house is now reportedly being turned over to the family. The pool boy's been there, the gardener's been there. So, you know, as long as we've been maintaining the property. It's crazy. It's insane. Gina says, hi, Zach. I know. I don't get it. It takes two seconds. What are we doing here? What? The question, Gina, is, what are we doing here when they are not. Annie doesn't want to be seen. Cameron doesn't want to be seen. Savannah is like, again, these posts are now starting to feel, like, obligatory. They're like, I have to post again. Like, it's just. Which I feel like it's a fucked up thing to say, but, my God, this is where we're at at this point. It's just crazy. Hoda left to start a wellness company. I've never heard anything about the company after she left. Well, okay, guys, that's code for she was fired. Somebody said she left to start a podcast. That's code for F I, R, E, D. Fired. She was fired, but they gave her the option to leave because she wanted to start a podcast. That sounds like fired. Yeah. Who knew the Blake case would be our break from the madness, right? We aren't even allowed to do anything without a permit. Exactly. Maybe Savannah is cleaning room on her cell phone. Is clearing room on her cell phone. I don't know, guys. Well, let's just hope with these new security cameras, let's hope they have the subscription. Although I highly doubt the old lady snatchers are going to come back to the same house and kidnap Annie. I doubt that's gonna happen. I never thought about her being fired, but now that you're saying it. Well, yeah, usually nobody leaves the Today show to start a podcast. Yeah, I mean, other people leave other gigs to start a podcast because it's a more lucrative or thing, you know, to put out there, but I don't know. She definitely got fired, in my opinion. That's what I think. Nobody leaves the Today show to start a podcast. And then it's so gleefully coming back. Leslie says, my goodness, you are so harsh all around. Are you okay? Probably not. How old are Savannah's kids? I'm not sure you're right, Zach. Oh, this from Astrid Ashton says you're right, Zach. It's getting crazy by the day. Instead of looking for Nancy. Well, I mean, I think they gave up on looking for her. I think they just, they're letting her be now. They're like, all right, we looked for the lady and we're didn't find anything. Let's move on. Don't be suspicious don't be suspicious don't be suspicious don't be suspicious don't be suspicious don't be suspicious Suspicious, suspicious. What, what a time, what a time what a mighty good time. I'm just hoping they know a lot more about the case than they're telling us. Pray Nancy is found. I don't know. Rosemary says no, Annie won't be kidnapped because the state of the art cameras are being installed. Exactly. Now, that's why they're. Now we have to have. The cameras are up now. Can't come back to the scene in the crime. What if the perp is one of the investigators? Wouldn't be the first time. So that's a theory that I've. Okay, so there are some new theories that have been presented that people are saying. Some people are saying that it's possible something nefarious really happened to Nancy and there was possibly some essay and that's why it's believed that this man or these men were in Nancy's home for an estimated 40, 45 minutes. I don't know. I don't know. I haven't bought into the SA theories. I just feel like they're a little. I've seen some of them. People have sent me like tiktoks about it. I know Heather McDonald's Juicy Crimes kind of gets into that this week. Again, I haven't fully subscribed to that theory. I still think it's somebody close to her and that somebody's trying to cover something up. But I have heard people say that it's possible that Nanos knows the perpetrator and that's why he's butchering the case, is because he's trying to protect someone. It could be the family that he's trying to protect. It could be somebody he knows. It could be. I don't know. I genuinely don't know. I think this is a lot like JonBenet. It's a cover up. That's what I'm thinking. And I. I just feel like something is being covered up because there's no way in 2026 something somebody can realistically do this and get away with it unless somebody was helping them. And that's somebody on the inside. So yeah. Oh my God, Zach. What an interview. Thank you. I love pan check to oh, I love pan check to paycheck and I have blink cameras at my apartment. Doesn't need to be high tech if you care about your loved ones. It's all dumb. It's interesting. Ms. Caitlin says the essay stuff seems to be like an extreme reach. It does. I know that they were saying that this is something that happens in Arizona. To me, the chances of them just happening, you know, they just happen to come in here. If it's somebody that's about that life, then that's somebody that's not very sophisticated. Right. They're very short sighted, they're very impulsive, they're very emotionally, you know, like impulse driven. Right. They act on spontaneity rather than foresight. And so I just don't think that somebody would be able to come in here. Like they would do a sloppy job. They wouldn't cover up the cameras. They wouldn't, like you would just think they would break in, they would do what they're going to do and then they would peace out. Like they wouldn't take the body, they wouldn't try to cover up the cameras. This woman wouldn't be missing. They would have been sloppily like caught by now. They would have been on a camera somewhere. Like they're not thinking to avoid cameras. They're not, you know, unless they were sloppy, did all of the sloppy things and somebody is protecting them. That's the only thing that logically makes sense to me at this point. But who kidnaps grandmas? Exactly. Who kidnaps grandmas? The S egg stuff could also be because the Golden State Killer. Golden State. Is he recent? Let's see, how long ago was this inside the timeline? Oh, interesting. Let's see. In 2018, Joseph DeAngelo was arrested. This summer, 74 year old police officer pleaded guilty the 13 counts of first degree murder. And in August he was confronted by his victims and their families in court. The notorious Golden State Killer was behind serial essays and murders across California in the 70s and 80s. But decades passed before a suspect was identified. Okay, so he was arrested in 2018, but he did this in the 70s and the 80s. And then this past summer. What year was this? 2020. Oh, this is back in 2020. Why are we bringing this up? It's 2026, guys. This was six years ago. The 74 year old. This summer. The 74 year old police officer. Pleaded guilty. Oh, so he was a police officer that. Oh, he was a former police officer. Got it, got it, got it. So he was a police officer. Got it. He's okay. So he was in on it. So that's why they're saying, look at Nanos. Because he was the one that committed this. He was a cop and he was doing this. That's crazy. And he was arrested in 2018. See, but that's the thing. Oh, he had a few different names. He was the serial person that did these things. He was known as the Golden State Killer, the Original Night Stalker, the East area, and the Visalia ransacker, who committed 13 murders. Oh, my goodness. Burglaries across California, 1974 to 1986. The crimes began in Northern California. Damn. 120 burglaries. Then he moved to Sacramento. Wow. Yikes. He did a lot of stuff that's not YouTube friendly. Safe for me to be sane. Damn. He offed 10 people from 79 to 86. After committing a series of highly publicized burglaries. He escalated to essay and linked to additional text. Wow. He really was doing some things and getting away with a lot of things. That's crazy. But, see, this is what I mean. He was doing this in the 70s, and he got caught. Modern day. So there's no way we don't know anything in the last. Like, with the advancement of technology in the last six years, six, seven, eight years ago, we were able to solve a crime from the 70s, but yet in 2026, we can't solve a crime from a month ago. Crazy. Did Savannah interview him? No, she did not. Genealogy ended up catching. Catching him. Yeah, but. So it's not impossible to think that there's somebody on the inside that's protecting whoever did this. And I think a lot lies in the hands of Sheriff Nanos. There is something not right with Sheriff Nanos. I'm not saying he did it, but it's possible that he knows who did it. And it's possible that he's trying to protect. What? Whoever did this. I think the case is too familiar for it to be a ransom for it to be random. It's not random. It wasn't about ransom money. I think the kidnapping was totally staged. Completely fake and gay. Okay, that's the latest on Nancy. Let me just refresh and double check. This is. Just. Sorry, I'm tweeting. It's just. It's so interesting that Savannah just reposted the same video again. JLR investigates reports. Two women just came to Nancy Guthrie's house and said they are 100% certain who did this crime. They were crying. They are now on their way to Pima County Sheriff's Department. What? Who knows? Just sharing what was said. We shall see. Okay, two women just came to Nancy Guthrie's house and said they were 100% certain who did this crime. Who did this crime. Who are the women? I need more updates. Could you imagine if they're. If they crack the code? Or are these like, psychics? Or are these, like, you know, I don't know. Honestly, nothing surprises me anymore. Let's see. Lisa Jane says Bananos may know more. Happy Friday, Zach, and chat. Thank you for the super chat, my love. Appreciate you. Ooh, is this. Are you Italian? Are you just throwing the Italian flag or are you from Italy? Lisa Jane Walker. I think you're actually from. I think that's a Euro. Wow. Thank you, Lisa. Lisa Jang. Taken from her bed, though, according to Savannah's video, but we don't know that for certain. I feel like my bank would call the cops if I showed up with a briefcase full of cash worth a million dollars. Exactly. Like, that's the part that's so weird to me is it's like you can just collect the $1 million reward in cash. What do you do with a million dollars in cash? How. How do you even. Like, how much is that? How. Okay, how many bills is $1 million? Okay, let's see. The highest denomination ever issued by the US was 100 grand. Gold certificates. Okay. One million dollar bills are considered a novelty item. Well, I don't think there's a one million dollar. How many. Okay, notes of 500, a thousand, five thousand and ten thousand were produced in the past. Really? What? I have never seen a thousand dollar bill or a $5,000 bill or a $10,000 bill. I didn't know that those bills existed. What income bracket do you have to be in to have a $10,000 bill? They have an actual $10,000 dollar bill. Wow. Interesting. But even so, that's still a lot of bills. Oh, you're from Dub. Oh, duh. That's Ireland. That wasn't Italy. Italy's blue. I just fell out of a coconut tree. I'm sorry. Oh, no, wait. That's Paris. No, Italian is green. It is green. Oh, okay. It is. But it's okay. Interesting. Yes. Okay. Well, thank you. Lisa Jane. You're from Dublin. There were thousand dollar bills. Well, yeah. Older than you in Vegas. They aren't in circulation anymore. Yeah, I don't Think they are. A guy asked me if I wanted. If I wanted it and put it away. Say what? Put what, wanted what and put what away? His dick. Want mine and hundred dollar denominations? Yeah. I don't know. Again, I don't know how you would collect that as a reward. All right, well, we talked Erika Jayne, we talked to Nancy Guthrie. We talked traders. I guess the last update is Denise Richards has been ordered to pay $5,000 per month plus $70,000 in legal fees to her ex, Aaron Vipers. What a time. Like truly. This is part of their. It's temporary spousal support, but it's part of their divorce settlement. $5,000 in spousal bills per month on top of 70,000 that she has to pay for his. For his attorney's fees. And the payments are due the 5th of every month beginning March 5th. So starting next week, she has to start paying him $5,000 a month in temporary spousal support until the divorce can be finalized. Which is crazy. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Z. According to TMZ, Denise must foot Aaron's 25,000. Oh, she must put Aaron 25,000 in attorney's fees, plus an additional 5,000 that may be used for a forensic accountant. Then 30,000 total will be paid in three $10,000 installments at the end of March, May and April. March, April, May. $30,000 total. The $30,000 total will be paid in three ten thousand dollar installments. I thought I heard 70, but I guess it's 30,000. Is that true? I feel like Page Six reported that it was 70 and Denise was fighting back. Oh, no, it is 30. I think I just misread it. $30,000. Sorry, not 70. $30,000 in attorneys fees, $5,000 per month beginning in March. And that's so apparently her criminal case with him, obviously, because she's accusing him of abuse. That case is pending. That's moving, but it's separate from the divorce. So until the divorce gets settled, this is what she has to pay him. She's fighting back, saying she has a daughter with special needs, saying that she can't afford that, saying that he drained her of all of her finances throughout their marriage. So she says that she can't afford to pay 30,000 up front and then $5,000 a month for him. She says she's barely struggling to pay her bills now, which tells me she might be coming back to Real houses, Beverly Hills. I can see it coming. I'm predicting it. She's going to need that paycheck or she's going to need to start doing some real good new. Some real good new only fans content. Bill Clinton is testifying. He knows nothing about nothing. Typically, you know, I did nothing wrong. I did not. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. So Bill Clinton is testifying regarding Epstein, and he is making it certain that he did not. His deposition is currently underway. Said he saw nothing and did nothing wrong. Do we believe that? I don't know. So it shows. Or at least based off of what's been reported from the Epstein file so far, Clinton has traveled on Epstein's private plane at least 16 times and was pictured with women in a Jacuzzi. In a Jacuzzi. In files that were released by the doj, he's been pictured with Ghislaine Maxwell. I mean, my gosh. I don't. I don't know. I don't buy it. I don't buy it. That was an awesome interview. Thank you. So, okay, so it doesn't look like we agree. Nope, nope, nope. Okay. Oh, so we don't believe it. We don't buy him. Got it. I mean, listen, from only fans to Clinton, that's the range we have here on no filter with Zach Peter. We got range. We got ra. So Clinton, in case anybody was wondering, Bill Clinton was just doing a lot of philanthropic work. That's what Hillary said. She said he was doing a lot of philanthropy. He was on the jet for philanthropic purposes. And I gotta say, listen, I've. I've done my own fair share of charity fucks. You know, there's literally photos of him in a jacohoozie with women for. For charity. Right. He was defending women's rights. That's what he was doing. He was fighting for women's rights. He's like, I defend her right to be naked with me in a jacuzzi. Jacuzzi. Jacuzzi into Jacuzzi. I don't know. Yeah. Philanthropic fucks. Yeah. It's where we're at with it. So thank you, Bill Clinton, for your. Your transparency. We appreciate that. Yeah, I don't think there's anything. I mean, Hillary yesterday said she didn't know anything about anything. She's never even met him. And then Bill has said he doesn't know anything about anything. He was just doing a lot of charity work with him, but he didn't know that he was a bad guy. But it's interesting because even Hillary was like. But in 2008, he got. What does she call it, a sweetheart deal. Epstein. Like, he was able to, like, he was charged but he got a sweetheart deal, so he was able to, like, keep his scheme going. So you would think after his sweetheart deal, which. Who gave Epstein what was. Who was president at the time? That was what, in 2008 under Bush. Obama was elected in 2008, but he didn't become president until 2008. Okay, so she's trying to throw this back on President Bush. So it's Alex Acosta, who was the then attorney for the Southern District of Florida. Okay. And Alex Acosta is the one that Approved the controversial 2008 non prosecution agreement for Jeffrey Epstein. So According to this 2008 agreement, Acosta authorized a deal that allowed Epstein to plead guilty to lesser state charges in Florida, thereby avoiding federal trafficking charges. The deal permitted Epstein to serve 13 months in county jail with work release and provided immunity for him and his co conspirators, which led to widespread criticism for being a sweetheart deal. A federal judge later ruled that this agreement violated the Criminal Victims Rights act because Acosta's office did not inform the victims of the deal. Interesting. Acosta later served as the US Secretary of Labor under Trump, but resigned in 2019 following renewed scrutiny from his role in the 282008 case. Okay, so Trump, what, kicked him out in 2019? An investigation by the DOJ's Office of Professional Responsibility concluded in 2020 that while Acosta and other prosecutors showed poor judgment in handling the case, they did not commit professional misconduct. Interesting. I want to know more about this damn deal that they gave him. This is our learning lesson of the week. I love when we have new lessons to learn. Right? I feel like we had a fun, fun graphic. For my lessons of the week, which usually come on Friday episodes, we should do a deep dive into Bush. The mom's. The mom definitely was a man. Bush's mom was a man. Could you tell by her? Bush. Interesting. The Clintons have always chased Royal Esque. Mystique. The Bush family have always had. Huh? Interesting. Listen, I was. How old was I in 2008? I must of. Oh, my God. Math is hard. Why? Okay. 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. I was 15. No, I was 15 in 2000. No, there's no way. I was. I had. Yeah, I was in high school at that point. I was 14 in 2008. Yeah. Wow. I was 14. I was in 15. I was 14. Muddy Grace. How would you know that? Muddy Grace? I was, I believe, 14 in 2008. Right. If I was born in 93, the deal was ridiculous. It was a slap to the face. It was A slap in the face to the victims. I mean, I think Epstein probably had power or somebody. He had some sort of chokehold on this Acosta person. It's interesting. Very, very interesting. All right. But that's. That's the sweetheart deal that Hillary referenced under Bush. It was his administration. You are the same age as my son. Oh, thanks. I'm late to the live. What are we talking about? What about the Bush family? Oh, we were talking about the Clinton testimony and Epstein, because everyone's like, why don't you talk about Epstein? Why don't you talk about Epstein? When I feel like I've touched on Epstein. But I've also said the details of the Epstein stuff is really, really gross. And the reality is most people don't care about the details about Epstein. They just wanted, like, the big smoking gun on Trump. Like, that's just the reality. But, like, it's just I. And I. Where did I say this? When it came to the Epstein files, I was like. I think part of the reason that a lot of creators aren't covering it is, like, the. The details are so dark. And I was even in the details that I was getting into, and the photos, like, it's so hard to stomach. I can't even do true crime. I was at. I was at the vet yesterday. My dog Sully ended up injuring his leg, and we had to go to the vet to get him checked out. And I was there. I mean, he was there for six hours. I had to leave at one point to come back and get my other dog, sky, because I had left him home thinking it wasn't gonna take as long. But while I was there for hours and hours and hours waiting for an update on Sullivan, I was reading through the People magazine subscription that was there, and there were so many, like, true crime stories. And, like, there was one story about, like, one guy who was, like, wrongly accused of, like, essaying some kids, and then eventually he was freed because it ended up being, like, somebody else. That was crazy. 1. There was one where they. These. These men found their grandpa buried in the basement. Apparently, he, like, they thought his. His parents thought that their dad just up and left. He just took off and started a new family with another woman. Because that's, I guess, the story that the mom was sticking with, only to find out this one was actually crazy. Like, I'm trying to get into true crime, but, like, some of the details and some of it's, like, so crazy, and I don't want to, like, desensitize myself to any of it because I feel like that's like, you know, a good sign of basic human like empathy and feelings is that I am so like uncomfortable with this type of stuff. But the story I did find fascinating. So apparently the mom had kids and they had a live in handyman which already sus. Right? Already sus. Maybe I will start to get into more of this type of stuff. Sully's fine. He's okay. Trust me. Today he just to update everybody. I mean we were there for the longest time and they checked him out and he woke up this morning, he's a lot better. His, his leg is still a little. It's not the strongest. Whatever the injury was, it wasn't that bad. I was going to bring him back in for X rays this morning and then he ended up being fine. He's okay. He just likes to stress me out. Sky is a tank, right? Sky can run into a brick wall. Sky can eat a live gorilla. Sky can do anything and he will be fine. Sully is always some. There's. This is our third trip to the ER with Sullivan. So the, the okay, so the story goes. I was reading it and I was like becoming true crime interest. I'm true crime curious at the moment. So the mom had, or this family had a live in handyman. Next thing you know it, the dad disappears and the kids are told that the dad abandoned them. The dad just picked up and left. And that was it, right? That was the most we knew. She never reported him missing because her story was she believed that he up and left and he took off and met another woman. And that was kind of the story that she stuck to. And the kids would try to ask questions and she didn't really give them answers. But after, shortly after the dad leaves, the mom ends up hooking up with and marrying the handyman. So now it appears that the mom and the handyman killed the dad. Okay. And so the grandkids, from what I remember, they. One of them decided to go. Either it was the kids or the grandkids. There were a lot of. It's two generations. And so there were the kids whose dad left and then there were grandkids. And I think the grandkids were trying to explore what happened and to try and help their dad find his dad. And it appears. So they went to a psychic and the psychic said your dad was murdered and he's under the house. And they're like, why he's under the house? And so that was what the psychic told them. So eventually they went into the basement and they started digging in the basement, and eventually they found the pelvis. And it was later to have been identified as the dad. The dad never took off and abandoned his kids. He was murdered and buried in the basement. And the grandkids ended up going in there and digging him out. And they found him. He was there the whole time. And the psychic told him that that's what was crazy. Is. The psychic told him what a wild story. Oh, my God. Is he under the pool? No, he was in the. Is that. Maybe that's what happened to Nancy's. Oh. Why isn't there an ongoing trail of blood at Nancy's? Exactly. So there was a new report that I saw last night that Donna sent me where there were drops of blood that were found inside the house, and then there were the drops of blood that were found outside the house. And I was like, okay, so then this kind of seems like the blood was planted then, right? Like, that's what I took it from. Is that the blood, like, felt? I don't know. We have so much. Like, our text thread is so long and crazy. I don't know. It's lost somewhere in the thread. But, yeah, drops of blood, which to me, felt. Fake bodies hidden in walls. Does that happen? Have you talked about Mary Cosby's son? Yes, we talked about that yesterday when the news broke. Oh. It's just. It's crazy. Is this a true story? Yes, it was a true story. I read the. Yes. Why isn't there an ongoing trail of Nancy's blood? I don't know, Zach. I saw an update on that lady that went missing 24 years later. Yes. Okay. Somebody did send me. I think Laura. Laura sent me this. Sorry. When you guys send me DMS on X, it's weird. There's, like, messages, and then there's, like, chat, and I can only access one of them, like, from my computer desktop, and then the other from my phone. It's weird. So X is not the best place to DM me. I'm already terrible at DMs as it is. Okay. But anyway, this is. Thank you, Laura. Laura Hart, in the live chat who sent us, sent me this tip. She's our mod. Love, Laura. So the woman who has reported. Remember, we found her 24 years later, and she just. She dipped out on her kids. Well, she was just arrested for failure to appear for court in 2001 for a DWI charge. That's crazy. You're on the run, Suddenly you're making headline news, and then you get arrested. So according to WA TV3. Boom. Boom. Boom. A woman who was reported missing more than 24 years ago has now been arrested on an outstanding order for arrest tied to a 2001 driving while impaired charge, according to Rock. According to Rockingham County Sheriff's Office, Michelle Hunley Smith was taken into custody Wednesday by the Robinson County Sheriff's Office at the request of the Rockingham county authorities. Authorities identified an outstanding order for arrest for failure to appear. The order stems from a DWI charge issued by Eden police officer, or sorry, by the Eden Police Department on Nov. 11, 2001. Authorities said Smith failed to appear in court on Dec. 27, 2001. Wow. Wow. Wow, Bethany. Wow. Imagine you think that you're like you have a whole new life. You think you've started over. You think you got rid of those bratty kids that you can't stand anymore, and the next thing you know it, not only do they find you, your kids find you 24 years later, but then your DUI from 2001 also comes back to haunt you. That was in 2001. So that was what, 25 years ago? So this was before she left her kids. Well, that's weird. Well, or it was around the time she left her. She just was doing all sorts of shady shit back in the early 2000s. Christina also sent you a video. She did. Where did she send me a video? See, sometimes I have to check my phone and then sometimes see, like, the DMs, my messages on my phone and the DMs on my desktop, both from my same X account. They're different. Yeah. Sorry. Diddling a child has a statute of limitations, but drinking 25 years ago, that's punishable. Well, it's not that she's being punished for the dui. All these years later, she's being punished for failure to show up at her court hearing for her DWI. Makes you wonder why she disappeared 24 years ago. I don't know. Because she was trying to avoid that court hearing. There was a warrant which has no statute of limitations. That is correct. All right, that's. Wow. We had a long episode today. Happy Friday, guys. I hope you enjoyed. There was so much that we covered. We talked Epstein and Clinton's. We talked about the lady that Michelle who went 20, who went missing 24 years ago. We talked about Eric Erica Jane's trial that's coming up in May, the same week as Blake and Justin. We talked about Nancy Guthrie. We chatted with Michael Rapaport about the Traitors finale and the reunion. So much good stuff. All Right. I love you guys. I appreciate you guys. I will talk to you on Monday. Have a great weekend. Ciao for now. Bye. Give me a Follow just plain Zach on Instagram or you can follow me at Zack Peter all over the Internet. Follow the podcast at no Filter with Zach. Guys. No Filter with Zach on Instagram. 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