Zach Peter (21:45)
Okay, let's get into the Savannah Guthrie of it all. Is Nancy Bonet Ramsey still alive? Sheriff Nano seems to think so. So in a new interview with Tucson for news, Nano's made a plea with the old lady snatcher. Okay, the alleged old lady snatcher, Nanos is out here saying, please. He says, just give her up. Let her go. Take her to a hospital. Take her to a clinic. Drop her off. Just let her go. I'm sorry. Does he think we just fell out of a coconut tree? I'm all about the power of wishful thinking, right? But, sir, it has been 53 days. 5. 3. 53 days. Nancy is with Jesus. Nancy is in heaven, looking down at you with disdain for how you have handled this entire case. I would be mortified if this were me that went missing and I was looking down like, oh, my goodness. To which sheriff Nana. Nana Nanos responded when asked about his coverage of the case. This is what he had to say. He said, look, I have no regrets about my team and their efforts. I don't regret that we let the crime scene go too early or any of that. He said, no regrets. That's who he is. He is. No regrets. Nanose. Boom. No regrets. I just. I don't. I. What? I'm sorry. Huh? I'm sorry. Come again? No regrets. Not one. You haven't found the lady. I can think of a few regrets. If you need. You know, if you need to phone a friend, give me a call. I mean, we could start with the crime scene. No regrets. The audacity. You lost a whole damn old lady for 53 days, and you can't think of a single regret? Sir. Bro, your time is up. It has been 53 days, and we the people, are tired we are tired, Nanos. We're tired. I can't. I can't, I can't, I can't. Laurie says. I feel like there's a slim chance that Nancy is alive. Like you said, so much against her with the agent. You think there's a slim chance that she's alive? Where? In somebody's basement? Listen, my love, I hate to say it, but if she's in somebody's basement, she's under the concrete. There's no. I mean, the coyotes got her by now. I don't know, like, 53 days. There's no. She's an 84 year old woman. She needs medication. Even if they stockpiled some of it. It's been over a month. I'm sure they're not going back to the pharmacy and be like, all right, Nancy, we're gonna take you into cvs. You go up there, you collect your. Your latest prescription. Come on. She needs. She can't even walk on her own. She needs a cane. Like, she's an elderly woman that can't move very far, that can't move very fast. Like, I'm sure the stress of it all. She's a pacemaker. You're telling me the stress of it all didn't take her out? That's wild. Theresa says no regrets. That's how you have to live life. No regrets. She needs meds to live. Who's refilling those? Yeah, yeah. Laurie says maybe Slim was being generous. It's just so sad. Of course. Yes, it's sad. It was Sad on day 30. It was sad on day 15. It was sad on day three. We're past sad at this point. Like, I feel awful, but it's like. And then Savannah, all of her pleas just keep being like, I just don't understand how they just think there's gonna be, like, the humanity, the goodness of humanity. This person allegedly stole an old lady straight out of her bed. And now suddenly, 53 days later, they're what? Their conscience is eating them? Excuse me. If they're like, we made it 53 days. They're like, cool. We good? We made it. We did it. They haven't even found the lady. I mean, come on. Why is he still allergic to doing press conferences? All of them? I don't get, like, not, not. No one did a single press. I mean, he did at first, but they told us nothing but, like, okay, well, Savannah doesn't want you to drop it yet, because. Savannah. Get this, guys. Get ready. Get out your handy dandy notebooks. Savannah Guthrie. Is breaking her silence in a three part speaker special. Three parts. Not one, not two, but three. Okay, because you know, when there's an 84 year old lady missing, you know, we wait until day 53 to begin doing interviews. And now in a three part multi day exclusive, as if, you know, time is no longer of the essence. I mean, listen, I initially thought, well, at first I thought it was only two parts and that those two parts would be spread over the course of two days. But then today they released part one and then they release part two and I guess part three is coming out tomorrow. And to me I'm just like, in what world does a multi part, multi day interview during an active missing person's case make any sense? The person is missing. I would understand if you found the person, right? If you found the old lady. And now you're like, okay, let's milk this for ratings and let's do a three day or a three part multi day special and we'll get people to like follow the investigation through that. But at least we already found the lady. And no, we haven't even found the lady. What in the blue's clue? Like, what are we playing a game of clue? Like, come back tomorrow to find out more details on how to find our mom. Like, what the fuck is that? What is this like a game that we're playing here? I don't know what exclusive details will come out on Friday, But I'll tell you what we learned today. And I'm just gonna warn you, I know you're ready to have your socks blown off with all of the details that are about to come out right now, but it's not very much. Okay, I don't want to get your hopes up, but here are the things that she revealed in her Today show interview. Part one. So in part one, she reveals that she was with Carson Daly the night that Annie, or yeah, she, I think was with, she took the kids to Carson Daly's and then she was leaving Carson Daly's and getting home. And that's when Annie notified her that the mother had been missing. And get this, Savannah says that after the mother went missing and they called the, I guess the police, they called 91 1. So that's when Savannah says that she talked to her brother and her brother, her brother immediately assumed it was a kidnapping for ransom. But in 2026, your brother is automatically like, yeah, she was kidnapped for ransom. What? Huh? That's the first thought, that's the first thing you think of is it was a kidnapping. I'M sorry. If my mother went missing, I would be like, what the hell? Did somebody take her? Did something happen to her? Did they dispose of her? Did she wander off like, what happened? And my first thought would be like, it had to have been somebody she knew. Who could she have known? Who could she have been with? Who's acting suspicious? Don't be suspicious. Don't be suspicious. Like, I feel like those are all very normal reactions. But she says that her brother immediately assumed that it was a kidnapping and. A kidnapping for ransom. What? A kidnapping for ransom in 2026? This isn't the 80s where you're gonna, you know, cut up a magazine and paste a few letters together, and you leave the letter on the counter when you take the old lady. When, again, nobody takes an old lady. But, okay, let's continue to play with this theory. So, Savannah. And this is where it gets a little sad, and this where it does break my heart, because Savannah believes that Nancy was targeted because of her, that this was something that somebody was doing to her. And she even says that she brings that up to her brother, and she's like, do you think that this could be because of me? And he's like, it's. It's possible that somebody did this because, you know, you're rich and famous, and they want to get money from you. And so they also believe that at least two of the ransom notes were real, even though. Oh, hold on. Let me check my notes. Oh, yeah, they never paid them. So even though we believe that two of the ransom notes may be real, just want to remind everybody they didn't pay a single one. Okay. But at least two of the letters we think may have been true may have been real. Okay, got it. She's also claiming that the back doors were left open, even though the blood drops were left on the front porch. So it seems like we just. We opened the door, we were mindful of getting rid of the cameras. Right. And we were mindful to not leave any DNA behind. Okay. That we thought those things through, but we just left the back doors wide open. And then we left a few blood drops that we didn't clean up. Right. On the front porch. Got it. Her phone and her purse were still there in the house. Okay. Cameras were removed. We knew that, but that's the scene. I think that's the only new piece of information we get, is confirmation that the doors were left open. But, like, what? They left the door again. They were mindful to take down the cameras. They were mindful to not leave any DNA. They were clearly smart enough to not leave any trace of them. But yet the door. They just left the doors wide open. When they left, did they take her out through the back? Well, no, they couldn't have because the blood was on the porch. But they closed the front door. They made sure the front door was closed with blood on the porch. No blood in the house. We didn't hear anything about any blood in the house. The only thing in the house was the phone in the purse. What Heather says, right? Why did they not pay them? Still so many questions, right? I don't know. So who knows the truth? Seriously? I agree. Janet. I don't know. I don't know. That's what some people think. The dummy in the front was the driver, maybe, and he was, what, in there while they went and took her out through the back? But then whose blood was on the front porch? And they're doing a Dateline special on Friday night. Yeah, I think that's where you're gonna get part three of Savannah's interviews in the date light and special. Okay. Like, sorry, I'm not trying to be an. But we're 53 days into this and we have no answers. So, yeah, I'm. It doesn't. The story still doesn't make sense because we're still sticking with this original story that this random kidnapper came in, did this weird ass job, and took the lady. So, okay, she. She's angry at public speculation, yet we've left the public in the dark for 53 days. And 53 days in, there's still no cohesive, real story about what could have or wouldn't have happened. We, like, we thought that this guy was an amateur, but then he's not an amateur. And maybe there was one, maybe there wasn't one. Something, maybe significant with January 11th. What's the deal with. They're saying that Something happened on January 11th. They're not telling us what. They're not telling us what may have been helpful to think about on January 11th, but they're just like, think about January 11th. And, like, you know, think if there was anything that was helpful. How many days was that? 5, 6, 7? 80 days ago. You want me to think about what happened 80 days ago? Or, no, 70 days ago, and I'm just supposed to remember what Fun facts from January 11th? Like, what are we even doing here? But she does say that she's grateful to the investigators, but there's no mention of Sheriff Danos. Also, strange that she's not, like, condemning Sheriff Nanos or Saying that she's upset with the investigation or disappointed with the investigation. I don't know. Ashley Banfield. Sources say that there was blood inside by the front door. Are we trusting Ashley Banfield or not? Because Ashley, like I trust Ashley Ban. But I know that was like a thing that they were like, trying to discredit Ashley Banfield because she said that one of the initial persons of interest were the brother in law, Tommaso. Annie called or. Sorry, Savannah calls him Tommy, not Tommaso. So we're not supposed to, like, we're. We're softening his image. We're rehabbing what, you know, we're calling him Tommy. So I don't know. How did Savannah's sister find out the mom went missing? We don't know. Again, if they would have just walked us through what happened that day. Like this interview that wasn't even very long. It was maybe 20 minutes, both parts. Okay, well, so she goes on, grateful for the investigators. No mention of Nanos. Then there's part two. In part two, she opens it up by, like, speaking highly about her mother. She talks about growing up in that house. Why that house is so meaningful to her. How this is relevant to the investigation, I'm not sure. But let's color the. The picture here. She praises Annie, she praises Tommaso, AKA Tommy, saying that they made it possible for Nancy to live there on their. On her own because she wanted to live in the house that all the kids grew up in. Okay, understandable. She felt awful coming home because I guess she had guilt. She was probably. She's wondering, like, you know, where are you? How could I leave you? Thinking of her mom like, where are you, Nancy? Where are you, Mom? How could I leave you? But then here she is, you know, I mean, I get it. Why she had to go home. She had to be with her kids. She had to be with her family. But she says that in making the decision to leave, she remembers when her father passed away and when her father died, she says that her mother would tell her to decide and do so when facing grief, just decide and do, you know, you have to make a decision. You put one foot in front of the other and you just do, you know? But she says that God spoke to her directly, and God said, you know where she is? And I was like, listen, if God came down and spoke to you and said, you know where she is, I don't think God's meeting you halfway there. I think God's like, girl, turn yourself in. No, she says that God spoke to her. And God says, you know where she is? She's with me. And I guess she has comfort in knowing that, like, Nancy is in heaven, but doesn't seem like anybody's given that memo to Sheriff Nanos. So if anybody sees Sheriff Nanos, let him know that God, God said that she's up with him. I mean, listen, I don't want to make light of this whole situation, right? I'm not trying to, like, just poke jokes at it for the fun of it, but it's just like, it's so ridiculous and it's gotten so crazy and, like, none of the story makes sense. I mean, I don't get what we learned from this. Like, what was the point of Savannah doing this sit down interview if we didn't get anything? We didn't get any new details, we didn't get any new information that helped solve the case or give anybody any sort of indication of anything? Like, I don't get what this was meant to accomplish. And all they're really telling people is just give us information, give us information. Give. I'm not giving you information. You can't even find the lady. 53 days later, you want me to give you information? Kimmy says, do you think TMZ faked the ransom notes? No, I don't think TMZ did, but I think other people tried to capitalize off of it and TMZ leaned into it. Maddie says, I think they left the back door open on purpose and has since said that Nancy leaves her back door unlocked. But what's the purpose of leaving the back door open? Christina says, we have to make jokes so we laugh and don't cry. I mean, it's a tragic situation. You know? Mary says, I agree. Zach, I don't think those notes were real. I don't think any of the notes were real. None of them were real. They were all fake and gay. But, like, the fact that we're still going with that theory, that that was the only plausible thing that could have happened to her, and we're not exploring any other options when, again, even the deed. And listen, here's the other thing. If she came out and she's like, this is what happened. This is how we found. Not that she owes the public. I want to be clear. It's not that Savannah owes the public answers, but if you're going to do this and you're trying to shut down speculation because you're mad about speculation, then great. Then. Then shut down the speculation with answers. You don't have to give answers, but if you want to diffuse the speculation, then give some answers. Right? You don't have to. But the fact that you are doing this, the fact that you're wasting our time with the three part interview. Sit down. Special. And you give us nothing. I don't. I don't know. Savannah said she thought two of them were real. Yes, we covered that. There were the two that she received she believes were real. But if she believed they were real, then why didn't she ever pay them? Sounds like an easy solution. They're asking for money. You think that it's a legit threat. Okay, where's the money? And I get it. At first they didn't want. They're like, we need proof of life. But then they waited and then the second one passed, and then they didn't do anything. And then they never talked about the ransom notes again. Until now. Till day 53. It's like, what? There's no other mention of the ransom notes or why you didn't pay them, but now you're saying that you think they were real? Huh? Jewel. Jewel says. I still can't get over that she was living in that huge ass house alone. She's just a sitting duck for something bad to happen. This case is. This case is extreme. But I wouldn't leave anybody alone in that house. It was a big house and there was no security. And like it's. You know, maybe Nancy went on a boat, fell overboard, has amnesia and is at someone's home thinking she is their grandma. Oh, my God. Could you imagine? No one credible ever came forward. I've watched too much true crime to know it's 100% the family. I mean, listen, that's. We're not saying that it's 100% the family, but watching enough true crime, knowing how these cases, how patterns of cases like this develop of statistics when it comes to a missing person. Yeah, it makes a lot of questions surrounding the family. And when you're not diffusing that speculation, the public is going to run wild with that. I don't think that that's unreasonable. And you didn't do anything to shut it down. So you can come up here and say it's mean, it's mean, it's mean, it's cruel, it's cruel, it's cruel. But if you're going to come on here and talk about how mean and cruel it is, then give people something to diffuse that speculation. Be like, it's not my sister, it's not Tommy. And this is why we turned over our phones. We did polygraph tests. We have been completely cooperative. Right. Our focus is here. And even if they told us the focus, then I would be more of like, well, why are you focusing on these ransom notes? Like, okay, fine, you turned over your phones. You did polygraphs. Like, okay, fine, if you can confirm all of those things, that will very easily, you know, shut down the speculation. But they haven't confirmed any of those things. She's just like, I can't believe people would think it's my family. Okay, well, tell us why it wasn't your family. Like, that's a really simple thing. Like, if you have an alibi, if you have evidence like that. I don't. I don't know. It just kind of seems like an easy way to shut down speculation. But you waited until day 53 to give us nothing. Like, and then Hoda copy I thought was a horrible choice for this interview. I get it. That they wanted someone that Savannah felt safe with. Presumably. I mean, we don't really know the real relationship between the two of them, but presumably. I mean, I think maybe Carson Daly would have been a better option if you're going for that, because she seems really close with them. If you're going for that, like, close person, that familial chemistry. But Hoda just didn't seem to have much sympathy. But it's not. I don't think it's Hoda's fault. I think Hoda is so used to doing morning news now that, like, the way she asks questions, the way she holds herself, like, it almost kind of felt like she was performing a little bit. Like she was, like, trying to, like, appear more sympathetic and appear like she was, like, so much sadder. And I think that was because, you know, she's just not used to being in this sit down, serious interview type of role anymore. I think she's just so used to doing, like, Kathie Lee and Hoda, and we're just going to drink wine on the morning show and all of that stuff. So I don't know if she was the best choice to conduct this interview, but. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Oh, look at Josie. Josie Rohana just signed up to become a member. Oh. A zactivated member of no filter. All access on supercast shout out to Josie. Jose. Jose. Jose. A. Sorry, I just saw that she just signed up. Wow. Like I said, guys, if you sign up during a live, I will give you a shout out live. All right, guys, I think that's all I've got for you for today, but I will keep you posted, obviously we have tomorrow and tomorrow is where we get the Dateline special and I believe part three of the Savannah interview. So that's, it's great. There we go. Loves it. But listen, I think if she was going to do a sit down interview, you needed somebody that was at least going to. If you wanted somebody that was going to have good chemistry and like kind of ground them a little bit more, I think Carson Daly would have been the better option. But then why are you trying to humanize yourself for the public? Shouldn't you be trying to give the public answers like, what is the point of this? To make yourself not look guilty? I mean, that just makes you look more guilty of like why you're doing an interview to talk about what it was like growing up in the home. I just, I don't know. But the other thing is like, if you're gonna give a tell all and like clear your family's name, then like have somebody that's gonna ask some hard follow up questions. Like the public is speculating on your family. Like why? Why shouldn't they speculate on your family? Statistically and through patterns of crimes like this, traditionally somebody close to the victim is involved. Do you believe that anybody close to your mother is involved? Why or why not? A lot of public speculation has centered around your sister and your brother in law. What have they been able to provide to shut down authorities that they were involved in this crime? Ask the hard questions if you want to shut down speculation. Don't be afraid. Don't look like you have something to hide if you don't have anything to hide. I'm not saying they have anything to hide. I'm just saying don't look like you have something to hide by intentionally trying to not hide thing by intentionally trying to hide things. You know, Ariana says I think they put too much trust in nanos in the beginning and now have to backtrack, which is now too late. Yeah, very possible. Very, very possible. But it's also very easy to shut down speculation. Okay, I do have to run to the dentist, but I love you guys. I appreciate you. I hope you have a great rest of your Thursday. I'll be back tomorrow. Tomorrow is only a day away. A day away. All right, love you. Appreciate you. I will talk to you tomorrow. Bye, guys. Hit the like button. Hit the subscribe button on your way out. Follow, follow, follow. Keep up with me at Zach Peter all over the Internet. 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