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Savannah Guthrie "Struggling" Behind the Scenes, West & Jen Fessler Rumors, MomTok Drama Continues
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And then the Mom Truck Mom Talk drama continues because Michaela Matthews is not staying off Taylor Frankie Paul's neck. But will we see the Bachelorette this summer? That is the question that we're going to answer. Let's dive in. This is no Filter with Zach Peter your go to source for all the latest pop culture and reality TVT Surf Fresh all week long. Now let's dive in. What's up Everybody in the club. What's going on? What's going on? What's up? Was a was it going on? Why is okay, Is that better? I feel like the lighting was a little, little, little different today. What's up guys? Happy Tuesday. It's Tuesday, May 12th and we are out here living a life. Living your life. Hey, keep on chasing that paper. You just ended an appointment per. I just ended up. Yay. I'm glad you were able to hop in just on time. Yes, guys, we stream live on YouTube x weekday mornings, Monday through Friday. So be sure to hit that subscribe button, hit that like button. Do all the things. That way, you're always getting the notifications up to date. Okay? You want to get those notifications. You want to make sure you're on top of everything. Hey, hey, hey. Okay, Lots of. I mean, I guess we have the Bravo news. Lots of reality TV news. Yeah. With this west and Amanda. Or not west and Amanda west and now Jen Fessler. West Wilson from summer house is just all over the place. All over, all over, all over. But I guess we can start with some Savannah Guthrie news, because it is officially 100 days since we lost Nancy Guthrie. How we lost a whole old lady. I don't know how you lose a lady, but we lost a whole lady. A whole ass lady just, poof, disappeared. Now here we are 100 days later, and we still have no idea what happened to the lady. Where is the lady? I keep asking. Where's the lady? Nobody seems to find the lady. But not only has nobody found the lady, but nobody even has any real concrete ideas of what happened to the lady. But at least we have Brian Enten on the case, and he's trying to crack the code. But there was an exclusive that came out in page six. I love that page six continues to get exclusives about the state of Savannah Guthrie. It's almost as if their source may indeed be Savannah Guthrie. I'm not saying that it is or it isn't. I'm just saying the updates tend to kind of be the same. And apparently she's very. She's getting very emotional between commercial breaks and behind the scenes. It's really hard for her being in this environment. I mean, I don't know. We don't really see that side of her. We just see her, you know, hosting the today show and announcing that she's the new host of wordle. So I don't know. I'm not entirely. Not entirely sure. But as she's living her life, she's moving on. So the source says that sometimes a fan will say something sweet to her, whether that's a guest or a sign from a fan outside. And it just makes her feel real touched, which makes her very emotional, which I can appreciate. Right. She's still going through grief. She still lost her mother. Whether or not. She knows what happened to her mother or not. She still lost her mother, you know, but the insider shared. It's never going. Oh, it's never going to be business as usual for her, but it's important to her to put one foot in front of the other and keep going. This is like the sentiment that they keep. Want to like, nailing in for us. They want us to keep remembering this isn't just business as usual. Even though she's showing up to business as usual every day on the Today show, and she just announced her new wordle game show that she's going to be hosting. So even though she's acting like business as usual, it's not business as usual. So don't. Don't let your eyes deceive you. She's really distraught on the inside. And sure, you know, do you think she will stay at the Today show? Well, I mean, this could be an opportunity for them to transition her out. Right. Because it's not like she's really helping ratings at the moment. And if anything, she may be doing the opposite. So it sounds like this wordle game show may be an opportunity for them to shift her outside of the Today show. And now she could be the queen of Wordle. And then if that show goes, great. If it doesn't go, you know, it's not like they fired her, you know, because she just lost her mom. I don't know. But apparently Jenna Bush is a source of comfort for her. Jenna keeps her grounded. She leans on Jenna. They're really close. And I mean, I. I can see that. I can see, you know, them having a close bond and her needing somebody. But, yeah, we'll see. Apparently, authorities are starting to plan on scaling back the investigation. I mean, after 100 days, when you've come up with absolutely nothing, kind of feels intentional, kind of feels a little deliberate, shocking that we're still in this place where we have no single answers. So, I don't know. Ella says, I'm sure she's distraught. I think Hoda is coming back and that's why she got Wordle. Yeah, I mean, listen, Hoda absolutely was a great, great, you know, great fill in when Savannah was gone. And I think people enjoyed Hoda, and so maybe Hoda may be making a comeback after all. I don't know. We'll have to wait and see what happens. But the interesting thing is the neighbors, Nancy Guthrie's neighbors, are making, like, a big fuss about, like, wanting to, I guess, temper down. So it says Nancy Guthrie's neighborhood asks Residents to stop leaving flowers outside her home. It's 100 days in and they're getting a little. They. They're. I guess they're a little Nancy'd out. And I get it. Their entire lives have been hijacked by Nancy Guthrie for the last 100 days, and nothing has come up. The family doesn't really seem that engaged anymore. The investigation really seems to have died. We have no updates from Nanos. We have no updates from the FBI, aside from them quietly starting to scale back the investigation. Even though Nanos wanted to make us feel certain that. That the case has not grown cold. I don't know. It seems we're in a snow blizzard. I felt like we were in a snow blizzard 30 days ago. And yet here we are, 100 days in. Three months past the distance the last Nancy Guthrie was seen. We're three months in. And apparently her neighborhood, Nancy's neighborhood association, they want people to stop leaving flowers. Even they wanna forget the lady. They're just like, listen, they don't wanna find her, so leave us alone. Leave our neighborhood alone. Because if they don't wanna find her. They were all invested. Remember? They were like, when the Pima County Sheriff's department was blocking off the street, they were like, giving Brian Enten and other people the opportunity to park in their driveways. They're like, no, we don't want you to have to walk 30 minutes every day. That's just gonna hurt you and prevent you further cover this investigation. They were like, come and park in our driveways. Like, they wanted the press there. They wanted to find Nancy. I think they were invested. But like, after 100 days in, I. Yeah, I. I don't know. Cosmic Mochi says, still can't believe there were no volunteer searches. They tried, remember? Then Sheriff Nans is like, no, you need a permit for that. Copper Mountain says they really messed up this one up. Yeah, but did they mess it up accidentally or did they mess it up intentionally? That's my question. That's been my question. That remains my question. I know we're not allowed to ask that question, but I'm going to sit here and I'm going to ask it loud and proud. Because I know it's on everybody's mind. I know that the things that I'm saying are not out of the blue. They're not out of nowhere. They're coming from genuine curiosity. Because again, we were all in a chokehold over this story and we got zero answers. And now we're just told to move on and pretend it didn't happen. Or the most we're supposed to pretend that it did happen is like, oh, Savannah's. She's moving on. Joy cometh in the morning. Joy is her protest. No, nobody enjoys Hoda. She wasn't even good when she was drinking with Hat. I liked Hoda when she was drinking with Kathy. I thought that was Hoda's. Hoda's best moment, her strongest era. The HOA is cracking down. Yeah. They're like, we're done. We're over it. No candlelight vigil. I believe, like, local people were doing vigils and prayer circles, but, like, the family never participated in any, which, again, very strange, very weird. And the fact that, like, the families never thanked the public. Like, remember, like, there were. I mean, granted, we only got very few breadcrumbs when Savannah would come up for air to give us another one minute Instagram story video. But outside of that, like, I know yesterday I was talking about how, like, it's weird that they haven't even reached out to Brian Enten. They haven't thanked Brian Enten. It's also a little strange because every time I say these things, usually within 48 hours, that thing ends up happening. So not saying that Brian Enten will probably get a phone call this week, but I don't know, it kind of sounds like Brian Enten may be getting a phone call this week because it's just very strange that, again, they've completely ignored him when he's the only one still really fighting to keep Nancy Guthrie's story alive and trying to prevent her from becoming the next Nancy Benet Ramsey. Elizabeth says, unfortunately, I think Nancy is hanging out somewhere with Judge Crater and Jimmy Hoffa. Yeah, see, but this is the thing. I think you're referring to, like, all the people that went missing in relation to the aliens, the alien story, all, like, the scientists that are going missing that were investigating aliens. But the thing with Nancy, like, when somebody just, poof, disappears, you know, it's usually because it's. It's a deliberate disappearing. The question is why? And why would the family be so okay with the case being butchered this bad? I don't know. Christina says, you can punish corrupt, but how do you punish incompetence? I guess. But again, is it incompetence or is it willful ignorance? Is it, you know, let me stick my head in the sand because somebody's telling me to stick my head in the sand? Rachel says, zach, your podcast is currently helping me get through this workout. Well, 16 weeks pregnant, it's rough. But you are helping distract me, Rachel. Thank you. Get to it, girl. March. Work, work. Crunch. Step up. Step up. Push up. Push up. Push up. Give me a burpee. Give me three. Give me a burpee. Give me five. Give me a burpee. Give me ten. Push up. Push up. Let's go. Squat, Squat, squat. Knee up. Left, right, left, right. Left, right. Left, right, left, right. You go, Rachel. We got you. Yeah. Everyone thinks it's willful ignorance on the side of nanos. Nana. Nana. Nana. Nanos. Nana. Nanos. Wait, is today the deadline for nanos decision? I don't. What. What was his decision on whether or not he kept Nancy? What decision is he. Was he supposed to be making? Fifi says the scientist is truly a real situation. I wish people would get serious. Yeah, I mean, the. What are we going to do, Fifi? We're going to. Are we going to find the scientists? You're referring to the scientists that went missing because they were the ones that were researching the aliens. But then we started getting the alien files. Did anybody read the alien files? From what Molly's told us, the first phase of the alien failures didn't really give us much, except for, like, they've spotted weird things up in the sky, and Those are possibly UFOs, and those could possibly be aliens and. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just. I don't. I don't know. Don't know. Romy says ten burpees. I can't do one. Oh, come on. You can do burpees. Burpee. Push, jump. Push, jump. Ready? Set. Go. Go, Go. Left, right. Should I do a workout video? If I did a workout video, would you guys buy my workout video? Oh, his decision to stay in the. Yeah, because they were, like, trying to recall him. I don't know. I've kind of, like, forgotten about nanos because I don't care to think about him. Because he's an idiot. He's either an idiot, like, a total incompetent, nincompoop idiot, or he's deliberately deceiving us. And either way, I don't like either option, so. Remember when Zach was ignoring us for 20 minutes with the Barbie thing? That's how I feel about Nancy. I'm tired. Remember? I was like, oh, I was just reacting to all the Barbie website, not realizing it wasn't shared on the screen screen because I was not looking at any notifications. What a time. They're going to keep releasing files to make us feel like we know, but really nobody knows. I know nobody knows. I mean, do we care about aliens at this point? I feel like there's so much other shit that's going on in the world. Do we really care about the. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if there are aliens. I'm sure there maybe are aliens walking amongst us. Who knows? Are they little green people that are flying around in spaceships? I don't know. I'm pretty sure in some variation there are extra. There's extraterrestrial life that is out there and they are probably grown in advance. I think we'd be ignorant to think that we're the only creatures in the entire universe. But also, I don't know. Like, I genuinely, I mean, we could be. I mean, if you look at, like on a micro, like look at an ant, to the ant, like the world around him is so huge. The ant doesn't know about birds. Does the ant really know about birds? Does the ant know about space? Like, we're so teeny tiny in the great cosmos of everything that like, we're probably just like an ant. We're an anteater chomping on some wood, not even realizing there's a whole house around us and a whole neighborhood around us and a whole globe around us and then a space outside of that, you know. So I don't know if you want to know more about the aliens. We can get more into the aliens. I see a lot of people talking about Spencer Pratt too, because the debate was. The debate was actually really good. I think Spencer Pratt slapped that debate. He came out swinging and he was doing the damn thing. And I was like, you go Spencer Pratt. You go Glen Coco. All of his ads have been on point lately. I'm loving Heidi, looking like our Los Angeles first lady. I am an Angelino through and through. And if you know Angelinos, you know that we don't call ourselves Angelenos. That's a term that was given to us, that was put upon us, that we just had to take and accept. Except, oh, Seagirl said we went from Nancy to nanos to aliens in a 10 minute convo. And now we're talking about Spencer and Heidi Spidey, the first couple of Los Angeles. Maybe we are the aliens. You know what? That's, that's possible too. We could very likely be the aliens. We don't know. We don't. We don't know anything. So why even try to comprehend everything? We should just be and let be and wake up every day and try to Be good people and live your best life to the best of your ability. That's it. Kim says Spencer killed it. Coming with the facts while they're just tripping up on their lies. That's right. Christina said, Spencer is killing it. He really is killing it. I'm here for the fight. I'm down for it. I'm down like Jude Brown. And he's also just entertaining. Like, he's just such a character that I certainly enjoy watching him. Mary says, I wish I lived in la. I'm all for Spencer. Well, now I listen. There are so many people outside of LA that like Spencer or people like, I have friends that are in, like, West Hollywood or other parts of LA that can't vote even though they like Spencer, but they can't vote for Spencer because they're technically not in LA proper. I luckily live in LA proper. I was raised in LA proper. I was born in LA proper. I was born on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood. I was born at Kaiser Permanente on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood. Special KKS as she already voted. Isaac says he's my mayor. I haven't been to the US since 2008. That will great. So we'll see. We'll see if the aliens come in and get us. We'll see if Spencer saves Los Angeles. We'll see if they ever find Nancy Guthrie. But as of right now, first opening segment of the show, we have no answers. We know nothing. You should have a debate about Spencer with Chef Stew. We'll love it. Oh, my God. I would actually love that. I would. I would not be against that, because I know Stu hates Spencer. Every time I open threads, every single time, it's just Stu responding to every single post about Spencer Pratt. Don't vote for him. This guy's a grifter. Don't vote for him. Not gonna vote for him. What a loser. What a grifter. What a grifter. He's a liar. All he does is lie. I'm like, oh, my God, Stuart, you are, like, obsessed with Spencer Pratt. Like, how are you not voting for him? Because every time I open my feed, it's just Stuart responding to every single post about Spencer Pratt. Like, my whole feed, every time I go on, and I'm like, oh, God, my. Oh, my God, Stu, make it stop. I love you, Stu. I love you. But my goodness, he. I love Stu. I do. I do. My goodness. Why does Stu hate Spencer? I think because he thinks. Well, because, like, the narrative from, like, the Nithya and the Karen is that, like, Stu's a crazy Mac Republican. Even though I don't even think Spencer's running as a Republican, I believe he's running as an independent and was raised Democrat. So I think. I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. And I'm not here to talk politics. But yeah, it's just funny. Funny, funny, funny. Does I don't know who support who he supports, actually. I don't know if he's. He's pro bass, if he loves Karen dumbass Karen Basuda, or if he likes Nithya. What is her name? Nithya Ramen. I don't even know who the lady is. I'm like, who's this lady? 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So they were beating each other up over the weekend on Mother's Day. Specifically, Michaela felt the need. So they're both from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Right? Both influencers. Both came from the mom talk group that formed Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And Michaela basically called out Taylor because, as you know, Taylor, she was supposed to be the next Bachelorette. She was supposed to be the first like famous star Bachelorette. And the season got scrapped because of a new DV incident or some allegations against her from her baby daddy, Dakota, who she's been dating now for I think the last three, maybe now four years or they've been on and off for the last at least three years. And they have a son together. Their son's name is Ever. And their relationship has always been toxic and tumultuous and very problematic. She was arrested after assaulting him. The video came out recently from that night, which was back in 2023, of her throwing things at him and throwing a chair at him and or lunging chairs around the living room, one of which appeared to have hit her daughter. Police came. She was ultimately arrested that night and has been on like a probation that I believe was set to to be completed by August of this year. It was like a three year probation, a deal that she took for a reduced, reduced charges. So her and Dakota continue to be in this toxic cycle. We've seen them in their toxic cycle on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, but we didn't know that the DV was continuing to go on until February or at least until early March of this year when there were, there was an incident that occurred or actually two nights where there was, there were more physical attacks on each other based off of each of their allegations. It appeared to have happened in the middle of production for season five of Secret Lives And Mormon wives. The women were really bothered by it. They paused filming and production was halted until there was a resolution between Taylor and Dakota and whether or not there would be any further charges that would be pressed. It. It does not appear that any charges are going to be pressed moving forward, but they are still battling it out in a custody battle over their son, Ever. They also have been given a three year protection order. So Dakota and Taylor are not allowed to be together for the next three years. So I would imagine there would need to be some sort of third party or mediator to discuss issues regarding Ever and obviously with the transfer of Ever and between Dakota and Taylor. But Michaela Matthews came out over the weekend. Yesterday. I read all of her messages that she was posting. She posted a really lengthy message about how she basically compared the Dakota and Taylor situation to her own, like, skin issues. She has, like, really bad. I don't know if they're allergies or it's like autoimmune inflammation in her body. And so she gets, like, the skin rash all over her. And so she was saying, you know, if there's a rash that continues to make my skin issues worse, why would I keep going back to the rash? Obviously it was, you know, it was an example. It was an analogy that she was making. And to be fair, it's kind of hard to apply that analogy, considering the relationship and a cream are two very different things. I was watching Claudia on the toast. I was watching the girls on the toast, and they were talking about, they're like, well, a cream, you can't love a cream. A cream is not, you know, someone that has been there for you. A cream is not somebody that you fall in love with. The cream is not. And yes, I agree the analogy. And I said this yesterday, it was a weak analogy, but I understood the point that she was trying to make. That when you keep repeating the cycle and you keep going back and going back and going back, at what point do your friends stop enabling you and say, listen, I can't keep supporting you through this. Like, I can't keep doing this situation where you keep putting yourself in the situation and it keeps ending the same way. At some point, you guys need to just, like, part ways. And then Taylor got mad and then she's like, I'm a victim. She's like, I'm not a victim. But then she, like, posts all these, like, Instagram stories of her crying with, like, sad captions, and it's like, oh, my God, like, you're clearly looking for sympathy and attention While also saying, but I'm not a victim. I'm not trying to be a victim. But yet you're playing the role of a victim, right? Well, the mom truck, the Mom Talk drama has continued on because Michaela is yet again talking about it. She posted on it looks like this was a video that was post those recapping all the drama on stage. Steph with the deets, she posted a video recapping the Mom Talk drama. And then now we have Michaela commenting on that. And Mikayla's latest comment says could probably write a book on everything I have to say about this. Nothing I said denied that she's. Is she referring to Taylor? Nothing I said denied that she's experiencing pain, trauma, difficult things. There's literally no question about that. Two things can be true. Someone can be hurting and still hurt people around them in the process. My statement was never about wanting her to fail or suffer or be canceled. It was about no longer wanting to publicly participate in or normalize a cycle that was affecting everyone around it, especially when children are. When children and repeated violence were involved. The ration cream analogy was never comparing trauma or minimizing what anyone has has been through. It was an analogy about knowingly staying in a harmful cycle despite the consequences to yourself and the people around you. In response to one of many comments and similar DMs that were towards me also days before Mother's Day about not having compassion for other people, yet expecting compassion online by sharing my chronic health issues. That's it. And that's why I prefaced it on my story before the statement. Also, let's not forget CMA Gate because with that coming out during Thanksgiving weekend, it never once crossed my mind that she was purposefully trying to ruin our Thanksgiving with our families because that would be such a reach. Compassion cannot exist only when it benefits one person. And so what she's referring to with CMA Gate is Taylor had the opportunity to I think, be a presenter at the CMA Awards, the Country Music Awards. And she was like excited about it, but she basically blasted the rest of the cast members saying like they didn't support her, they weren't happy for her getting that opportunity. So that's what she's referring to. And she's like, she put that out there and she put that out there during Thanksgiving weekend. And so rather than us enjoying our time with, with our families, our Thanksgiving weekend was basically ruined because we were getting beaten up online because everybody was thinking that we weren't being supportive and that we were jealous of Taylor when that wasn't the case. And then they remember they were all coming out and they were, like, sharing their text messages about how, like, if they had been supportive of her, yada, yada, yada. And then Michaela continues by saying, it's frustrating to see how everyone thinks now. Everything should have been handled privately when there have been months of public reposts, narratives, and pressure directed at multiple women for not publicly supporting behavior we didn't agree with. You cannot repeatedly make things public and then act shock when people eventually respond publicly, too, even if you don't like the response period. So I get it. She's calling out Taylor's hypocrisy, and I'm. I'm with her there. Right? Like, I just think. I think it is very hypocritical. I think it is very annoying. I think they're all put in a compromised position because then the brand is all centered around Taylor's chaos, being that Taylor is the star of the show. So, okay, that said, let's talk. Well, that's basically where it ended. They're still going at odds. I imagine we're going to see this all play out when season five comes out. What are we in May? So I would imagine maybe we get season five in November. November, December. They have to bust it out soon. Bust down. Tatiana. We have to get it out sooner rather than later. I don't know. Elizabeth G. Says, I fell asleep to a Zach video, and he was in my crazy dream. Well, I'm glad to know that my videos put you to sleep. Elizabeth. Thank you for sharing with the class. So, yeah. Okay, now let's talk about this. West versus Jen Fessler. Oh, and I also want to talk about real houses of Beverly Hills and this, like, thing with the two vans. I'm very. Because I. I see this resurface because Lisa Kudrow was just on Watch what happens live, and she was talking about this, and so I want to actually get into that. So let's. Let's talk west and Jen Fessler, and then let's talk Real Housewives of Beverly Hills because I. This theory about Dorit leaving Kyle and Eric in Italy and it being faked or staged or scripted and how that wasn't real. I want to discuss that. I want to talk about it because, like, you guys, come on. You really think they're out here scripting these scripts? 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Remember that was the big betrayal is that they had like a situation they dated in like 2023 and they've had this like weird situationship for the the following couple of few years or. Yeah, the last three years, I guess. And then her good friend Amanda ends up separating from her husband Kyle. And now Amanda is in a full on relationship with west, who was formerly dating Sierra. So Sierra's best friend is now dating the guy that she was in a situationship with. And it's just messy. Messy Wessie. Okay, enter Messy Wessie. So there's a video from, I believe it was last year of West Wilson and Jen Fessler. Jen Fester was one of the newbies. She was never a full time cast member, but she was one of the newbies on the Real Housewives of New Jersey the last two seasons I think she was on. And I guess at some point they went out and they got drunk together and they were eating pizza and they filmed this weird video of the two of them where Jen Fest was like, oh, my God, we have the perfect name for him. His name is Messy Wessie. First of all, Jen Fessler is old enough to be Messy Wesley's mother. And Jen Fessler has a man, okay, she's got it on lockdown. So there was, I think she like made a joke about how like west is her hall pass. And now it's come out that Sierra's like, oh, she made like some sort of flippant comment about how well you know. Oh, because I guess Jen Fessler came out recently and she's just like, oh, he didn't mean any harm when he did, you know, dumped Sierra for her best friend Amanda. Like, you know, he's just a little messy. Like, she kind of downplayed it and was kind of like on West's side and saying that, like, yes, what he did was wrong, but he doesn't deserve all the hate that he's getting. And then that's when Sierra jumped in the comments and she's like, well, that's because they slept together. And so now it's become a thing. And everybody's like, did. And that's when they drug up that old video of Jen Fessler and Wes Wilson drunk together. And people are thinking they may have hooked up or did something that night. Sierra seems pretty confident that something happened between west and Jen Fessler. Whether she found out from one of the other guys on Summer House, whether she found out from west directly, I'm not really sure. But it appears that Sierra is very convinced that something happened between Messy Wessie and Jen and Messy Jen, Messy Jenny, Messy Jenny from the block. So it is messy. But Jen Festlers now come out. She went on two teas in a pod and she's just like, oh, my God, she's Basically saying that, like, Sierra defamed her and she's like, that's libel when you write something that's not true and it's just completely false. And I think they asked her, well, like, are you going to sue her? And she said, no, I'm not going to take legal action. But just know that, like, your words impact other people and they affect my husband and my family and. And now everybody's digging into my past with west and she doesn't seem happy about this. Understandably. Now, I don't know if I kind of think. I don't know. It sounds crazy that west and Jen Fessler would have a thing. But also, I wouldn't be surprised just knowing west and knowing how messy he is and just seeing how fucked up Jen Fessler was. I could maybe see them getting a little handsy, maybe doing a little kissy kissy. Maybe a little, you know, the shirt came off. I don't know. I do think something happened. I don't think this came out of nowhere and I don't think Sierra would just throw that out of nowhere because now, you know, where initially Jen Fester was like, this is. This is libel. She's spreading lies about me. And it made it seem like Jen Fester was going to take legal action against Sierra. Now it seems based off of Jen's interview on two T's in a Pod, that she's like, backing down. And then Sierra posted something about, like, I love when people back down. And so, I don't know. Sierra seems to imply that she knows the truth, but I don't know, it's just. It's messy. It's your bestie, Ms. Ms. Wessie. Meg says, and Jen and her husband both had an affair in their marriage years ago. You know, reprimand said, it's like a whole full time job to keep up with all of these shows and the characters and their names and keeping all the relationships straight. It's hard work. It is hard work. Thank you for acknowledging that. Fifi says, I do think Sierra is a bitter Betty. She is bitter for sure. And I think she's just been messy. I think she wants to go scorched earth, you know, reprimanded. Says to be tbt. I don't know a lot, if anything, sometimes about the Summer House and Real Housewives or reality shows. But I like my chat fam and Zach, so I stay to listen. I appreciate that Wes slept with the cougar. I'm sure west has slept with a number of different animals. You know, him being One himself. Elizabeth says one's a cheater, always a cheater. Yeah, Christina says I'd be bitter too. Yeah, I'd be bitter too. I don't blame her for being bitter. She did look really good. Her reunion dress looked wild, insane, hot, smoking. So good. Looking hot, hot, hot. So, yeah, there's that. We'll see what happens. The reunion's going to be coming soon, I believe. There was a preview of the reunion that came out during the NBC upfronts where Bravo made all those announcements yesterday. So there was a little clip that started circulating online. We will see what we get. But the reunion is coming and it looks like it's going to be a good one. I'm very invested. I want to watch the finale. I want to watch the reunion. I want to see all of it. Apparently the spinoff for Summer House, which is called in the City and it's based off of three of the cast, or actually no multiple cast members and their lives in the city. It's Lindsay Hubbard, it's Kyle Cook, it's Amanda Batula. Amanda, who's like having this weird relationship, this full on relationship, I guess with West Wilson and Danielle, who also used to be on the show. Like she was, she came in and out. She was like there for a couple seasons, then left and then came back and then left and she was fighting with Lindsay and I guess now they're friends again. I don't know. But Danielle's part of the cast and I'm sure the others will be making cameos. We saw west make a cameo and so I'm hearing, I've heard that they did pick up cameras again for in the City so that way they can incorporate this drama for in the City, which is smart, right? Because in the, like the Summer House is already getting so much attention and now they want to build in the City. And so the best way to do that is to bring the scandal into the spin offs that people watch the spin off and then get hooked on the spinoff. We'll see. We'll see how and where it all goes. Baby, are you downtown? Down, down, down. Baby, are you down, down, down, down, down. Okay, let's talk about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills because I keep seeing this come up and it came up last night, Lisa Kudger was just on Andy Cohen's Watch what Happens Live. And Andy was interviewing her and he's like, what do you think of, what do you think of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills? Are you watching it? And then Lisa's like, if I Tell you what, I think you're not gonna like it. And he's like, what do you mean? And it was like this really awkward, tense exchange where, you know, she's like, you don't wanna know what I think. And he's like, what do you mean? She's like, you don't wanna know my thoughts of this show. And he's like, okay. And he was, like, kind of weirded by it. And she's like, I'll just say one thing, you know, Sprinter van. Double black sprinter van, twin sprinter van. And he's like, why? And she's like, you know what I'm saying? And he's like, yeah, I know what you're saying. And he kind of seemed confused, but it's coming from, I guess. She did watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and she did see the episode where they're. The women take a trip to Italy, and. And Dorit Kemsley storms off. She's filming. They're getting ice cream with Kyle and Erica. And in that scene, Dorit storms off and she gets into the sprinter van, and she leaves in the sprinter van. And it shows on the show that then Kyle and Erica are left stranded. And so everybody then, you know, wants to be a TikTok detective, and they're just like, wait a minute. That's not real. That was totally fake. Yeah, see, Fifi is already going there. She's like, yep, they were both. There were two sprinter vans. Two black sprinter vans that were parked there. Yes. And I feel like people don't think of, like, the most obvious, like, things. They would prefer to find the conspiracy rather. Rather than the most logical explanation, which to me, seemed pretty obvious. So here's a screen grab of that scene where Dorit walks off and she leaves Kyle and Erica behind. Dorit gets into the sprinter van, and then the van drives off. And then everybody's looking at it, and they're just like, wait a minute. Look at. There's the. There's one sprinter van, and then there's a second sprinter van. And the second sprinter van is ultimately the van that takes Erica and Kyle back to the house that they're all staying in. Because it was a bit of a drive. And so the narrative on the show is that Dorit left Kyle and Erica stranded at this, you know, courtyard, and she took the van. And again, I think so many people. There's no freaking way. Production was left. Left them stranded. Well, again, why would we need two sprinter vans? Oh, that's right. Because when we go to film these scenes, not only do you have cast members, but then you have entire. An entire crew of people. Producers, cameramen, possibly lighting, audio guys. A whole crew of people. And a whole crew of people that also have equipment. Those cameras, those mic booms, like, all of that stuff like that takes up a lot of space. That alone could be its own sprinter van. Okay, so you have the cast sprinter van, where you have the ladies that are in there with the cameras that are set up in that sprinter van, and then you have the alternate sprinter van. That's for the producers and the crew members and all of the equipment. Okay. So when you have a van that's full of a group of people that also has all of this camera equipment. Yeah. There's probably not going to be room for two extra people that were supposed to be in the original sprinter van. And so I'm sure in Dorit's head, Dorit's just like, I don't care. Like, they can fit in the other van. Right. And that's probably why she left, not thinking that she was leaving them stranded. But when you logistically put it together, you realize, oh, yeah, like, let's just say there are four crew members. I'm pretty sure there were more. Right. I mean, at least four, maybe five. Because you need at least a producer, at least two different cameramen, an audio person. That's four. I mean, I would assume an assistant producer. So that's at least five. You have five people in all of the equipment that are in one sprinter van, and you then want to fit two more people in that. Like, that doesn't make sense. So, yes, whether Kyle and Erica were the ones stranded there or whether two extra crew members were the ones stranded there, regardless, Dorit took one of the vans that could have fit additional people or additional equipment, and she took that van and left the rest of the people there, which then presumably they were stuck there. They would have to call a second car or figure out some sort of solution to make sure everybody fit for the long trip ride home. Now, why did production just let her leave? Couldn't they have stopped the car from leaving? Sure. But if you're filming this as it's organically playing out and Dorit takes off and takes the car, then, yeah, you're gonna film the fact that Erica and Kyle are now technically stranded. And you're not just gonna put Kyle and Erica in the alternate van. That's the crew van, because then you can't explain the context of Dorit was so self absorbed and being such a dumb bitch that she Left the crew members because that's too much breaking of the fourth wall. So of course you're going to lean into the fact that that was Kyle and Erica's car that Dorit took and technically left them stranded. Just call an Uber. Yeah, I'm sure that was an option as well. You can easily call an Uber. Well, I don't know how Uber works in Italy. I don't know if. If it's the same app. If it's like, I don't. I assume that it would be the same thing, but I don't really know. But, yeah, I think, you know, there were just. Things were probably heightened, but the Dorit leaving them, you know, definitely that was a real thing. That wasn't a completely scripted fake thing where they're like, okay, Dorit, now march off now. Kyle and Erica look shocked. I'm sure Kyle and Erica realized, like, oh, wait, that's our car. Do we all fit in the other car? And the producers like, oh, shit, we don't all fit in the other car. And then it's like, oh, great. And then they're like, we'll film their reactions. Let's film this. It works the same in Italy as it does in the U.S. yeah, I mean, listen, that's possible. They could very easily call an Uber. Yes, I'm sure. But Ubers won't have the camera set up. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yes, there were other solutions yet. You can call a taxi. You can call an Uber for sure. But my whole point was that whole moment wasn't scripted. And of course, production, as they're filming this is going to lean into that, you know, so. Yeah, But yeah, actually Uber does have cameras. Yeah, they have little dash cameras up front, but that's for their protection. That's not footage that you would be able to. To get yourself an air on a television show. But yeah, I just wanted to explain that so many people want to lean into the conspiracy theory of it all and say that that scene was planned and scripted. And I was like, it wasn't planned and scripted. It just, you know, it happened. And obviously they leaned into it. The cast leaned into it. The producers leaned into it. The producers obviously thought it was more compelling to film Kyle and Erica's distress rather than just calling them an Uber, because they could have easily called an Uber or they could have just left some of the crew members behind. But, like, the whole point was we have to lean into the fact that, like, Dorit just peaced out and didn't have any consideration for everybody else. Everybody Else being the producers and the crew members as well. But obviously they're not going to talk about that piece because that's too much breaking of the fourth wall. But Dorit still was very, very inconsiderate. El says, exactly. And Erica doesn't lie. She was pissed. She was pissed because it's like. And I would understand that Kyle and Erica would also be pissed because they're like, dude, like, you just screwed everybody. You're probably. Now the two assistant producers are probably gonna have to stay behind and. Or call an Uber or like, they're gonna have to find some other solution and you're being a bitch. And it's like, not so much that I would understand the frustration. Being in production settings like this, I would understand their frustration. Especially when you hear Rachel Zo or other. Other cast members talk about how, like, Dorit disappears for two hours because she's out smoking in the smoking section and when Dorit's not present, but they still have to film a scene. Like, they can't really film a scene without Dorit being in the scene. And even then, why should they have to film a scene if they're all stuck and having to film at that dinner table? Why does Dorit get to walk away for two hours just to have a cigarette break? So I understood that the frustrations that these women were feeling were not so much about the exact things that we're seeing on camera, but there's so much other layers. There's so many other layers and so much additional context that we're not fully getting because they can't incorporate that into the show. Right. So when they're frustrated with Dorit being an hour late to dinner and they're just like, well, now we're annoyed because we have to wait for the food to come. That's true. Because I'm pretty sure with Dorit being late, they're not going to have the food. Like, they want Dorit there, so they're going to make sure the food doesn't arrive until everybody shows up to dinner so that they can film the scene. And then the other women are annoyed because then they're like, we're fucking stuck here having to wait for her because they're not going to let us film the scene until Dorit's present and we're all here filming and they feel like it's unfair because then they're committing and their time and energy into filming the show and Dorit's calling and, you know, calling it in, phoning it in half assed, you know, so there are just more to the things. Never travel with a smoker. Exactly. But like, obviously that's not what they're gonna focus. Like there are just certain things that they have to focus on for storyline's sake and for like an overarching, you know, story within a season, within an episode. There's the overarching storyline, the smaller storylines, and you have to make the story make as much sense without getting in all of the fourth wall breaking production stuff. So, yeah, Missy says the point is they weren't left all alone in some strange place. Production was going to make sure they were okay. They're not backpacking on a trip to Europe. Yes. But you're again missing the point of. It's the fact that Dorit doesn't have the consideration of realizing that then she's screwing productions plan or she knows that she's screwing productions plan and she doesn't care because she's just completely disregarding. She doesn't care how Kara, how Kyle and Erica get home. She doesn't care about the other crew members. That's the whole point. That's the frustration. And so, yeah, when production's like, well, we're not going to call you an Uber. You have to figure this out. Yeah, production's going to leave the cast in that situation so that they can get genuine raw reactions from the cast. That doesn't make it scripted. That just means this situation happened. We're not going to focus on the behind the scenes fourth wall breaking piece. So yeah, we're going to film the fact that Dorit left in their car and technically they're now stranded. And so, yeah, production's of course going to leave them in that awkward situation because that's what, that's what then gives them content for the show and makes makes sense for the story that's being driven in that moment about Dreet leaving and being completely disregarding of the people around her. So it's not a conspiracy. It's actually quite normal. All right, on that note, I love you, I appreciate you and I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day. I will be back tomorrow. Wednesday morning. We also have our Wednesday weekly Zoom chats. So if you would like to join, you can sign up for no Filter all access. You get ad free episodes and you get bonus episodes and you get weekly Zoom calls. You get discounts on members only or yeah, discounts on merch. So all of the good things, you can go clock it in right now. Become a member of no Filter all access on Supercast. There's a link in the description below. Be sure to sign up. 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