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The Story of Mackenzie Shirilla - Everything Netflix Didn't Show You in 'The Crash’
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Visit your nearby Lowe's Things are getting messy. Dorit and PK have some new leaked texts and it is getting caray cray in this divorce day. Plus Blake Lively continues her press. If you thought that her appearing at Fendi yesterday was enough, no way Jose. She is still going. And Netflix they have a new documentary out called the Crash. I watched it. I have been doing a deep dive into this Mackenzie girl and who Kenzie girl. We got lots to get into. I hope you're ready for it. Let's dive in. This is no Filter with Zack Peter your go to source for all the latest pop culture and reality TVT serve fresh all week long. Now let's dive in. What's up guys? Welcome on in, welcome on in. Welcome on in. Everybody in the club. Happy Thursday Thursday Thursday Tips Thursday. Who we if you are not a member of no Filter All Access last night guys, we had such a fun long Zoom call. We were on Zoom for like two hours. Just like chilling living life. I was spilling way too much tea. I had what give me 1 Margarita, 2 Margarita, 3 Margarita, 4. I had too many margaritas and I was just. I was spilling all my tea. So if you are not a member of no Filter All Access, you're gonna want to sign up on Supercast. And while you're in the mood to do something. Hit that, like button. Hit that subscribe button right here on YouTube, on Spotify, on Apple. Be sure you are following and always up to date with all of the latest. Tate, baby, so much to get into. I hope you're ready for it. Where's the lady? Anna, I don't know where the lady's at, but the lady's out here somewhere, and we need to find her. It's been over a hundred days. It's been how many months now, four months since we lost Nancy Guthrie? Where's the lady? Somebody please find the lady. Okay, let's see. Lots to dive into. Did anybody watch Just. I feel like there's, like, a hair on my face. Did anybody watch Netflix's the Crash? If not, I'm going to recap it for you. And if you did, then we're going to discuss a lot more that was not revealed in the Netflix documentary Crazy, Crazy, Crazy. Oh, Beth. Beth, I haven't seen you in the live chat in a second. Beth. Beth says, guess what I woke up seeing today? On my 60th birthday, my precious daughter sent me. Zach, my adopted son, via cameo, wishing me a fabulous day. I cannot tell you what joy that brought me. Love you, Z. Love you, Beth. Happy birthday, Beth. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Yeah, guys. What a fun time. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Yes, as Beth said, you can get a cameo if you want. A personalized message for me, for your friend, for your mom, for your husband, for your man. If you're like, listen, done. Zach, can you deliver this divorce news? I will oblige. I will be. I will take one for the team, and I will tell your man that you have found someone new, and that someone new is you. Okay, Lots to get into. Zach, your hair looks good. Thank you. I keep. I feel like it's just like, a little bit of a. Of a moppy mess today. Lisa says, I just watched Crash this morning at work. Okay, first of all, the fact that you're watching at work is wild, but I love that journey for you. Let's see. Okay, so we'll start with the crash. Then I want to get into housewives legal news, because we had an update with Dorit Kemsley. I mean, Wendy Osefo. If we care about Wendy Osefo. I know we're big Beverly Hills fans. So we have an update with Dorit and PK with Erica. Jane, there is Wendy Osefo had a hearing. Chelsea Handler is trashing the Kevin Hart roast, which I have some thoughts about. Then there was the Survivor Finale debacle last night. Craziness. The things that happen on live tv. But let's start with the crash. Bang, bang, baby, do me fast in your car. Boom, you hit me. Crash, you hit me. You do me real hard. Isn't that a Gwen Stefani song? Bang bang, baby, do me fast in your car. Crash, you do me real hard. It's something like that. Okay, so crash into me. Oh, crash into me. From New Kids. These are the days and the nights of our life. Joanna says this the story, the. The crash story is horrific. Okay, it gets worse because I was digging into it all night last night. And this because there's so much more that was left on the cutting room floor. Outside of Netflix. Let's get into it. So it's a new documentary, true crime documentary called the Crash on Netflix, and it's about this young woman. Her name is Mackenzie. Kenzie girl. Ken's girl. Should we show you here? Actually, let me pull up a photo. Her name is Mackenzie Sharila. And hold on, I guess we can use. Let's use her mug shot. Like, let's give her a fighting chance before I show you the. The debacle that we encountered in this documentary. She. I will say when she appeared in court, she looked, like, so sweet and wholesome and, you know, looked like such a good, sweet girl, which is quite the juxtaposition of the story that I'm about to take you on. So let's start with Kenzie girl. Okay, this is Mackenzie. This is her mug shot. Okay. Not the mom. I feel like we should probably put up like a. A nicer, like, sweeter, wholesome photo of her. She was kind of hooched out, though. Like, she's. And a lot of people are saying that she reminds them of the cash me outside girl. Cash me outside. Cash me outside. And she does kind of give me cash me outside vibes. Here's like a more. Little more wholesome photo. I don't know. Whatever. Okay, I digress. So anyway, Kenzie, this whole documentary, it's only 90 minutes. It's one part so you can get through it super quickly. But. So she is dating this guy named Dom. Okay. And so the documentary is about the death of Dominic Dom and their friend Davion. So Kenzie and Dom, they're in love. She's 17, I believe he was 20 at the time that he died. She was 17, like, just on the cusp of turning 18. But they had been together for a while and, you know, they were in love and they'd been Dating for quite some time. And if you ask all of their friends, they were like the Romeo and Juliet, except nobody was forbidding them from being in love because it doesn't seem like either of their parents could be bothered. Like their parents were nowhere to be found in all of this. Okay? Until eventually the night of the car accident. And so one night they get into this crazy car accident where Kenzie's car crashes into the side of a brick building and both Dom and Davion end up dead. They did not survive this car crash. It is quite horrific. Here I'll pull up photos of the actual car crash itself. It's not pretty. I'll just. I'll warn you about that. So if you look at this photo, this is by bore but bork here, they put together this montage and it shows you in the top right photo is Kenzie and her boyfriend. That's Dom. Then underneath it, you see the high school photo of Davion, their friend. And then the bottom photo is Kenzie when she was in court for her trial, for her hearing. And so this is the car. You can see this is a really, really bad car accident. Everybody had so many questions. Dom and Davion were declared dead on site. Like, the police officers came, they found out that she was still breathing. They took her into the hospital. But Dom and Davion were very clearly deceased at the time that they found the vehicle. Crazy, crazy, crazy. I mean, shocking that she even survived, given. I mean, if you look at the impact of the car, if you look at, you know, the bricks on the building, like, that's a crazy car accident. So Mackenzie, who was driving, like I said, she survives by the grace of God and all the good karma that she's racked up over her 17 years. According to her good friends, she was a total saint. A total saint. And Jesus Christ practically sent her down as a gift to this planet based off of her friends and her parents testimony. Well, the police start to investigate and they look at nearby camera footage. They look at what is referred to as the black box in the car, which kind of has a record of everything that went on in the car. You know, the steering wheel, the brakes, the, the accelerator, all of that. That kind of like tracks everything the same way you would have like a black box and a plane. This is what they refer to as a black box. I don't believe that's the exact term, but that's how they refer to it as the black box for the car. They also have analysts that look at the state of the car, they look at positioning in which the bodies were found, and, you know, they try to put the pieces together. Okay, then don't give spoilers, guys. I already see people being like, no, it wasn't this, or oh, it was that, or da, da, da. Don't give spoilers. Let's go on this journey together. So for people that haven't actually seen the documentary yet, they conclude that this was indeed, as people in the live chat are saying, that this was not an accident. After doing an investigation and looking at all of the physical evidence. Right. Kenzie, from what they found, was in full control. Okay. There's footage of her turning a corner, very calmly, very collected, and, you know, in control of the vehicle. And then it appears after she turned around the corner at some point, you then see camera footage later down that street where you see the car accelerating and it just voom. Goes right down the street and straight into the building. Okay, so it appears that she slammed on the gas, navigated what was what looks like a pretty curvy street that, like, if you're just driving straight out of your mind, then it's possible that you would crash into something. A pole, a tree, maybe a neighbor's yard, something. But it appears she knew how to navigate that.
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Zach Peter
The curves within the street and drove straight into the building. Okay. The car was going, based off of what the black box read, the car was going 100 miles per hour. There was an accelerated speed, and for the last five seconds before impact, the car was going at a full 100 miles per hour. This is a. A foot that is fully on the gas pedal all the way down. Okay. She never once hits the brakes. As police start to investigate, she claims she doesn't remember what happened. She has full on amnesia. How convenient. Full on amnesia. She remembers turning the curb and then after that she. She claims she blacked out and doesn't remember everything after that. She claims to have zero recollection of, but she also claims that it's not in her character to kill her boyfriend. So even though she doesn't remember what actually happens, she know that she didn't intentionally kill her boyfriend and that their friend Davion. So fast forward, Mackenzie ends up getting arrested and charged with murder. And I believe there were 18 charges that they brought against her, but two of the main accounts being the murders of both Dom and Davion. So it's crazy because Dom, who is her boyfriend, his dad and sister also appear in this Netflix documentary and they seem to be in support of Mackenzie. They're Appearing in court, at her hearings, on her side, like, really believing that she's innocent and that this whole story that's been concocted by the cops is crazy. There's no way she did this on purpose. Like, that's insane. Who intentionally drives their car into a brick building at an accelerated speed of 100 miles per hour with two people that they claim to know and care about and love? Right. Well, then all of the evidence gets revealed in court. So the family starts to see the footage. They see the accelerated speed of the car. They see prior fights between them. We're now getting all these details because Dom's mom was not on Kenzie's side or supporting the family. Dom's mom, for whatever reason. And the dad, and they're. They've since been divorced, but. So the dad and the sister are confused as to why the mom, or I guess they're not confused, but they're just like, how can you be so callous, you know, to not take this girl side? Obviously, she was our son's girlfriend. She loved him, whatever. And the mom is like, nah, I know that girl. And there's also. I saw. This is what hooked me, is I saw body cam footage on TikTok of the moments that the police officers arrive at the mother's home and deliver the news that dawn had died, Dom had died. And it's gut wrenching. They don't play that in the Netflix documentary, but it was on TikTok. I just remember, like, scrolling being like, what is this? And then seen them deliver the news to the mom and it's all in care and you just see her freaking out and she, like, collapses and she's screaming. It's horrific. Listening to the sound of her screams and her agony and just watching that is awful. And she calls her ex, Frank, who's the dad, who does appear in the documentary. I have a theory. And remind me if I don't bring it up, I do have a theory as to why the mom, Christine, did not appear in the documentary. I just think she knows more details about her son and Mackenzie and she just wanted no part of this documentary. And it does appear that this documentary may have been spearheaded by Mackenzie's family or at least heavily endorsed by Mackenzie's family. So anyway, all the evidence comes out and apparently Dom had even taken videos of times that Mackenzie had gotten upset and had threatened him in the past, or had threatened to key his car, break into his house. Like all of these things. Right. And Mackenzie says that she believes that during this chunk of Time this, these seconds in before the car accident that she conveniently doesn't forget. She believes in her heart that it was a medical episode. She believes that she had what she calls a medical episode. Okay. And her mom backs this theory by claiming that MacKenzie has POTS. Okay? POTS is a disorder. For those that aren't familiar, it's a disorder that affects your nervous system, or it can affect your nervous system, right? Depending on the severity. But it affects your nervous system. It can cause dizziness, it can cause fainting, it can cause fatigue, and it can even cause blackouts. Okay, so this is the theory that they're going with now. The. The defense, McKenzie's defense team does not provide this as a theory in their evidence. They don't have an expert to corroborate this. But. But it was in her mom's testimony. So when her mom takes the stand at trial, her mom says, oh, yeah, she has pots Like Mackenzie's Like, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember. But it's possible that I. I think I blacked out because I. I have this thing that my mom calls Potts. Like, she's like, they're so fixated on this POTS argument. Okay? So the investigators argued that this couldn't have been POTS one. The defense didn't provide any expert witnesses to corroborate this Potts theory. But the argument that the prosecutors make is that if this were pots, she would have likely lost control of the vehicle, not still been able to make the bends of the street at the accelerated speed of 100 miles per hour. Right. And then there's also all of this footage, like, on her Snapchat, and I believe TikTok that she's posting about her smoking weed. She's a big heavy. She had a big ass bong that she would smoke out of on a regular basis, if not like multiple times a day. She would drive. Drive high and under the influence, and she would drive very recklessly, and she would drive at accelerated speeds in the past. So it is possible that she was able to navigate her car at that speed on those streets, which they later revealed that she had visited that specific street in the past. That almost, it may have been premeditated is kind of the theory that they present is that, you know, they do place her in that area before, and there's no real need for her to be on that street. So it was a little confusing unless it was possible that this was premeditated in that way. But so the prosecutors argued this could not have Been Potts. Like, the Potts theory is just ridiculous. If she blacked out, then, like, she wouldn't actually be in control of the vehicle. And based off of the way she drove the car into the brick building, it was very likely that this was deliberate. Intentional, and she was of sound mind. Now they can't really excuse why she doesn't remember. Is it convenient? Is she lying? And did she really forget? Could it have been, you know, a short term memory loss based off of, you know, this impact? Who knows? It's possible. But I personally think she's lying. I think she knows exactly what happened, and I think she knows how to manipulate her parents. And this whole POTS theory, the prosecution also really brings up a good argument about, like, well, if this were pots, then why were you. And you knew that she had a history of having these episodes, why would you allow her to get a license and operate a vehicle at all? Why would you not disclose that to the DMV at the time that you got this, got her this car and got a license? Like, when she took her driving lesson, she should have disclosed that she has this disorder that could impact her driving at some point. Right. And even after the accident, she wanted to get back behind the wheel, you know, so it's not like they were concerned that she could have another POTS episode. It was just this POTS theory seemed very convenient just for this one night. Right. And so then there's. There's a friend, and I'm not exactly sure how this friend fits. It fits into anything. I don't know if it's a friend of the moms or a friend of Dom's and the mom's. Like, that was kind of unclear as to who this person is necessarily. But there was a friend, and I believe he's the one that was with the mom at the time that she got the news. And he seemed. I don't know if he lived there or he lived with them or what, but there was like, a family friend, and he had, I guess Dom at one point calls his mom and he's just like, hey, Kenzie's being crazy. She's threatened. Like, you know, she's driving erratically, or he called her with some sort of concern about, like, I'm scared of her right now, and she's driving crazy. And then the friend, the mom calls the friend and the mom's like, go get him. He, you know, he thinks he's in danger. And so the friend, I think, calls Dom, and in talking to Dom on the phone, he hears Mackenzie in the Background say that she will crash this car. She's threatening to crash the car with Dom in it. And this was an incident that happened during one of their fights that was two weeks prior to the. The car accident that killed Dom and Davion. So she does have a history of this sort of erratic behavior, of making threats. Dom has video of her. The mom seemed to be familiar with this. The mom and this friend were, you know, at least if not physically present over the phone. Were able to hear her make this threat of wanting to crash her car with him in it. Then eventually the guy goes and the guy goes and picks up Dom, gab and grow. Drops a super, super chat and says she asked her mom in the hospital if they could say she had a seizure or something. It's on body cam footage. Yes. So that is another thing that comes out later is that as she's in the hospital. Well, there are a number of things that come out of the hospital, but yes, that is true, that. That while they're trying to come up with some sort of theory as to what could have happened, that is one of the things that she brings up is maybe it was a seizure. And then ultimately they don't go with the seizure theory. They go with the blackout theory as it relates to pots. And so, like I said, apparently that specific route is a route that Mackenzie had recently visited. It's unclear why she visited that. It's unclear why she was on that specific street. It doesn't appear that there was. That it was a route, a route that she needed to be taking to get to school, to get to work, to get to her house. So they're like, we don't know why she was driving down the street. Is it possible that it was premeditated? We don't know. But they also ruled out that there were any drugs in her system outside of weed, because as we saw in the videos that she was posting to her social media, she was a huge pothead. Always smoking or always doing. What is that the bong? What is that big, like, dildo, that glass dildo thing that they, like, puff out of? I don't do weed, so I don't. I don't know. I'm sure. Robin, are you there? Robin, can you confirm for us it's a bong, Right. Anyway, she's constantly taking hits out of the bong and, like, the big glass ones, like. Like one of these, and she's, like, doing her puff, puff, whatever. So she was constantly doing that. But she was also regularly under the influence while driving as well. And that didn't seem to have impact her driving or anything. Yeah. Christina says it is a bong. Half a bong. Half. What's a half a bong compared to like a full bong? I don't know. They have like the big, like the big glass dildo things and then they have the little ones that looks like a. I don't know, a crack pipe or something. It's like the little pipe. And then you have the thing. I don't know how you do it. Trust me. People have tried to teach me how to do weed and I don't know how to. I would rather just take a little gummy because, like, if I'm going to do weed, I'll. That's what I'll do is a gummy. But so anyway, big pothead. But when they did her blood test, and this was also kind of weird, and this is a piece of information that I learned afterwards by. There's a podcast, Annie Elise, she hosts a serialistly, I think is how you say it's like serial, like a serial killer, but serial. And then seriously. And she like combines the two. So it's like serialistly. And she discovered that the blood test, for whatever reason, and I don't know, there's really no explanation, but the blood that was drawn when she first was taken into the. Into the hospital, when the ambulance brought her in, that. That initial blood draw was discarded of. And the. The hospital says that it was discarded of because I guess like that's part of their protocol. And so there was a new blood draw that was taken afterwards. I don't know. And we don't really understand or know why and why that original blood sample was discarded of. They claim that it's standard procedure at their hospital. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But regardless, it appears that the blood draw that. That she had a lot of the drugs stay in your system. And so it was believed maybe acid, maybe mushrooms. She did have mushrooms on her. She did also have a scale with the mushrooms on her. And so there were no mushrooms in her system. So if. And mushrooms, from my understanding watching this is that mushrooms stay in your system for a while. So regardless if it was taken that night or a day or two after, it's possible that you would still be able to trace that in her blood with the mushrooms. You would still be able to at least tell that she had taken something or had that in her system. And based off of the blood analysis, it appears there was only weed in her system. However, alcohol to my understanding, I guess, gets metabolized a lot faster. So if you have alcohol in your system, it gets processed out. So by the time they did take the new sample, it's possible that the alcohol may have already been out of her system, to my understanding, if that makes sense. So it's possible that she may have had some alcohol in her system at the time that she was driving. Uncertain. But whatever it is, it doesn't appear that that was impairing her judgment in a way that, you know, would make her behave unpredictably in this way to crash this car. Now, her attorneys try to say that she was just reckless, but this wasn't intentional. This wasn't a deliberate or intentional murder. Her mom argued pots she says she couldn't remember. As mentioned in the. The super chat, there was a mention of, like, maybe she had a seizure regardless. But the prosecution makes it clear none of those theories fit because she was driving on a windy road. I mean, it wasn't too windy, but there were some bends and curves in it. And she seemed to be in full control at the time that she was turning the. The car around the corner before she goes down this street. And it shows that the. The mileage was accelerated. It was going up, up, up, up, up. And then it seems like the last five seconds before impact is made, she was driving all the way at 100 miles per hour. So it appears she, for whatever reason, slammed her foot on the gas and drove straight into that building. Now, whether she was doing this to harm herself or just harm Dom, unclear. Her friends and her parents make it very clear that, like, oh, they were in a perfect relationship. There were no issues, and she was just a total darling. Like, oh, my God, she was so great. She was amazing. She was the sweetest. God's gift to the earth, right? Suddenly, you know, when somebody's facing murder charges, they're such an angel, and they're like, she never. You know, she would never contemplate harming herself in that way. She would never do that to herself. When. I mean, as more people talk and as more information comes out, that does not appear to be the case. So in the documentary, her friends go hard for her. Hard. Like, they are ride or die, claiming she's a good person. Her and Dom had a perfect relationship. One of her friends, this was hilarious. I, like, nearly spit out my coffee. One of her friends said that Mackenzie, she was such a good person that Mackenzie took her to McDonald's one time, and MacKenzie wouldn't even eat the McDonald's. McChicken Sandwich. Because that's how much Mackenzie cared about her body is. She wouldn't even put the McDonald's chicken sandwich in her mouth. She wouldn't even eat that because she cared about her body that much. And I'm like, okay, this chick that's doing bong, bong, bongs all day long, she. And driving like crazy and, like, do it like, okay, sure, let's go with that. That she's not even gonna eat a damn chicken sandwich because she is so, you know, worried and caring about her body. It's crazy, crazy, crazy, whackadoodle crazy. But for whatever reason, the friends go to bat for her hard. But, you know, here she is allegedly messing with weed and mushrooms and acid and driving while high and, you know, the McChicken sandwich. Okay, got it. Gab says, oh, my God, that McChicken comment was batshit crazy. Yes, it was crazy. Like, I was like, are we? But then you have to remember, these are, like, children. Well, I mean, they're late teens, early 20s now, but it's crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. The Hulu one about rips her apart. Yeah, I'm sure. I haven't seen the Hulu one yet, but maybe. I hear there's a Hulu one and HBO one, to my understanding. But anyway, ultimately, Mackenzie is found guilty, and she's sentenced to 15 years without parole. So the judge did allow her what is called congruent concurrent sentences. It's 15 years per, like, 15 years for killing Dom, 15 years for killing Davion. However, the judge allowed her to serve them together. So rather than 30 years, she's serving both sentences at the same time. And so at the end of those 15 years, she'll then have a parole hearing to determine if she's allowed out or if she'll have to serve more time. Concurrent. Yes. Thank you, Beth. Concurrent. So she was found guilty, and she will have to serve those two sentences, but they are concurrent services. Fifteen to life. Yes, without parole. But after 15 years, she'll have a parole hearing, and they'll determine if there's an opportunity for her to get out. Now, like I said, upon further investigation, I watched the serialist Lee with Annie Elise, which she really goes into it and brings out a lot of new information that was not presented in the Netflix documentary. And I don't know why the Netflix one got more traffic than apparently the Hulu or the HBO one. I know there's another one because Molly was texting me about it this morning. Molly. And Donna was, like, super into it and got us into it. But isn't it two sentences? Yes, but you are depending on this. Like, you know, you can serve them together at the same time. But so, like I said after watching Annie Elise, the whole Netflix documentary, I now believe, was led by Mackenzie's family. I think they were the ones that either pitched the idea to Netflix or when Netflix was looking to do a documentary, the family got all on board and got all of her friends on board so that they all kind of parroted the same narrative about Mackenzie being such a darling, sweet, angel baby. And so you do see Dom's dad and Dom's sister, but like I said at the beginning, they were on Mackenzie's side. And then eventually they're like, we're so disgusted. Once we saw the evidence in court and we felt duped and we felt lied to. And now. Now we understand why Dom's mom never wanted to support Mackenzie, because obviously she knew more, and I think she knows a lot more than just how volatile the relationship is. But who else was in it? Davion's parents are also in the documentary, as is Davion's little sister. And I think they participated in the documentary so that they could also give their side of the story so that it wasn't giving Mackenzie's family and friends the entire ability to control the narrative. But it's crazy. It's. It's really, really crazy. Let's see. Yeah, it seems like the whole narrative that they're trying to put out there is that Mackenzie is innocent. She was wrongfully accused, and that she had some sort of medical episode. And even her parents changed the tune a little bit by the end of the documentary by saying, oh, well, we found some new text messages of Mackenzie where she's saying that, you know, there was a time where she was driving and Dom tried to grab the steering wheel and he was. He was trying to kill her. So how do we know he wasn't secretly behind this for whatever reason? Like, he could have done this? Which is. I think that she genuinely got pissed and wanted to end all of them. I don't think she thought it through. I think it was a manic state that she got. I think she just was one of those people that would rage and get so crazy that she wouldn't think through the consequences of her actions and was just like. And maybe he was threatening to leave her or something and. Or, I don't know, maybe he said he cheated on her. I don't know. But something happened that pissed her off, and she was like, boom. I'M gonna slam on these brakes. And you know what? Screw it. You're not leaving me. If you leave me, you know, if I can't have you, no one can. Is kind of what I think may have happened. But. So there's new audio that has been circulating online this week, and it's crazy. So. And this goes more into the motive of this sweet little darling angel baby. Right? There's a new audio that came out. I'll play it for you here. Of Mackenzie and her mother gawking. Okay, this is while she's already locked up behind bars. And, you know, all of the calls get recorded. So Mackenzie and her mom start gawking at all of the international attention that this case has gotten, fawning over the chance that Kim Kardashian may be reaching out to her. Not that Kim is, but they're like, could you imagine if Kim reaches out to us and we don't even have to reach out to Kim, like she's gonna reach out to us because of the popularity from this case. It's crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. And I really think that she believed she was going to get away with this.
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Zach Peter
here's. Here's the audio clip.
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Unidentified Female (Podcast Guest or Co-host)
So wait, it's all over the world now that today shows, like, national news. Okay, I gotta tell you one more thing. What? It was published in England. What? Yeah. World news. I think the Daily Mail just publishes it in all the publications. But, yeah, the UK it's on. The Daily Mail in uk Maybe Kim Kardashian will reach out herself. That's what I'm saying. I'm hoping. I'm hoping we're getting there. I was gonna do this anyway. So this is great. And they could just reach out to us.
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Zach Peter
Mm.
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Unidentified Female (Podcast Guest or Co-host)
Craziness, baby girl.
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Zach Peter
Insane. Insane. Diabolical. Insane. Right? Elle says, why is this funny? Two people died. I know. How can you laugh? I know. Gwen. How can you laugh? They're laughing about the fact that she's becoming famous. They, like, can't believe. Like, oh, my God, this is so crazy. Look at how much attention we're getting. And I don't know if the mom really believes that Kenzie Mackenzie is innocent or if she just, you know, Sociopath. I know. Can you be any more stupid on a recorded line? I don't think they care. You know, I think to them, this is all, like, I. I genuinely don't know what goes on in these people's brains. I. I really don't. It's sick to me because, like, as you guys are mentioning in the live chat, there's two young boys that have died. But anyway, back to Annie Elise. She claims, according to the deep dive that she did, she claims that it appears Mackenzie and Dom may have been some substance dealers. You know, they may have been. Remember all the substances that they. Well, they found mushrooms on them. But they also found a scale at the time that, you know, they searched the car or what was left of the car. So it's believed that Mackenzie and Dom may have been dealers. And it's possible, based off of Annie Elise's findings from the. The court filings and whatnot, that Mackenzie may have also been involved in some adult work or may have been doing some adult favors in exchange for money, to put it mildly. So the dealing of the drugs does make sense to me because Mackenzie had money, right? Which, by the way, we have to talk about Mackenzie's look in this Netflix documentary because it is diabolical. So you saw all the other photos of Mackenzie, right? We have her mug shot, okay? We have her looking cute and glam, okay? We have photos of her and Dom together. There's the photo of her in court. She looks very wholesome. Right, again, this is Dom. Dom's has the longer, curlier hair. He's like the real thick eyebrows. And then the. The young man on the right is Davion. He's the one that has the earring in. But. So this is Dom. This is Davion. They're the two that are now deceased that were killed at the hands of Mackenzie. And this is how Mackenzie shows up in the Netflix documentary. Look at that. That. That bun. Like, that bun is diabolical. That bun says guilty. Just looking at that bun, I can already say guilty, Guilty. Like. Like they say in Mean Girls about Gretchen Wieners. That's why her hair is so big, is. Because it's full of secrets. That's why her bun is so high. It's full of secrets. Diabolical. That's probably. I mean, I'm. Nothing is worse than taking somebody else's life. So I want to say killing Dom and killing Davion are the two worst things she has ever done. But I'm gonna put the bun at number three because the bun is crazy. And this is how she comes on frame. Cosmic mochi says, oh, no, the guilty bun. That is a guilty bun. Okay. I mean, watch the show called the Boys. Diabolical is one of the characters lines. Oh, yeah. I mean, and she walks in. Because throughout most of the documentary, we're not hearing from Ken's. Right? Like, we're having the story told by everybody. El. The friends are there. She has her. What is her friend's name? Rosie. She looks like a Rosie, too. She looks like a heifer that smokes. Trust me, in 30 years, Rosie's gonna be on a street corner smoking some. Smoking a cigarette, you know, talking to the guys. That's gonna be Rosie in the future. But the way MacKenzie walks into frame, and I believe it's like halfway, maybe more than halfway into the documentary, she walks in and she sits down like, I'm ready to tell my truth. And I. Like, when you see her entrance, you're gonna be like, what? In the actual. Because at first I was wondering. I was like, dude, are we gonna hear from her? Is she gonna, like, like, what happened? Like, do we get to hear her side of things? Like, we're hearing her parents, we're hearing all her friends. We're seeing the other families. But, like, do we actually get to hear from MacKenzie, the only person that survived the crash? And she walked in with this big, big ass bun and this side part. And I was like, wow, wow, wow, wow. Crazy. What is the documentary called on Hulu? Let's see. Hulu documentary the Crash. The Crash streams on Netflix, not Hulu. But is there. Is the. There has to be. Oh, his name was Dominic. Okay, so mackenzie. Documentary. Oh, maybe. Is it on Hulu? It's on hbo. There's one on hbo Max. The Crash is on Netflix. K. But what is there. What is the other one called? HBO Killer. Oh, there was an episode of Killer Cases. There's no exclusive HBO documentary about MacKenzie. Instead, you can find episodes covering her case on Investigation Discovery. Okay, so they have. They did the series. Okay, that's. That's the thing. So there's only one documentary, but there were episodes of other true crime programs. Mean Girl Murders is one of them. And killer cases. So I'm assuming these are what people saw on Hulu or on hbo. Max is it was likely the episode of Mean Girl Murders and Killer Cases, because ID Investigation Discovery, they do air or they do Stream on. On YouTube or. Sorry, not on YouTube. On Hulu. Sorry. But anyway, like I said, drug dealing makes sense because, I mean, she was rocking Chanel earrings. She always had designer. She. There was, you know, photos with, you know, her and Dom, and they had stacks of money. And so, you know, it was. It's not a far stretch. I believe that. Right. Because again, having all of this designer stuff, I assumed at first that the parents probably had money. But seeing them in the documentary, I'm kind of like, well, they seem pretty modest. Like, I don't know, like, do they have money? Do they not have money? Like, it would be weird for them to be buying her all of these designer items because she's so young. But, like, how are they not questioning it? But whatever. She was clearly making money somehow. Drugs appears to be one of them. And apparently Mackenzie's Snapchat account is where things get a little more incriminating. And so it's possible that she was exchanging photos and. Or videos in exchange for money. And these aren't darling little selfies. I'm insinuating that these are more nefarious types of. Of photos and videos that she was likely sending outside of her alleged dealing she was allegedly exchanging. Is paraphernalia the right word? Like, how do we. Like, I'm trying to think of what the right term. You guys know what I'm saying? She was sending naughty photos for money is basically the gist of it. And it seems that Dom wasn't happy about that part of her life. And in their arguments via text, he would accuse her of being a prostitute. And apparently, you know, at one point he was like really upset because she let a dude feet fuck her his term or their term. So, you know, there's like titty. Well, there's also like, you know, I'll let you put that visual together. It's, you know, let me get my toesies and put my feet together like this and then you do what you want with them. So, yeah, he seems to have not been happy with those parts of her life. Um, he does seem to accuse her of these things in the text messages. It's wild. But like I said, she's clearly making money somehow. And despite her friends being, you know, so forthcoming to Netflix, apparently all of their friends refuse to cooperate with investigators. So there's even one point where, and I assume because they were involved in some of these shady dealings as well, that's my own conjecture. Those are my assumptions. I'm not incriminating anybody. But I would assume if there's a reason you're avoiding the police, then it's probably because there's something that you're doing that you don't want the police to find out about. But it's interesting because the lead detective on this case, he was interviewed by Netflix and they, I guess, disclosed to him that Rosie and Bubba, the two friends that are. And then there's a redheaded girl with the chicken sandwich. And we don't really hear much from the redheaded girl outside of the story about the chicken sandwich and how she wouldn't eat the chicken sandwich because she cares about her body so much. That's how, you know, that's. That's the type of girl Mackenzie was. She wouldn't even eat a chicken sandwich from McDonald's. And that's really all we hear from the red headed girl. But the other two apparently were like really reluctant and would not cooperate with authorities and the investigator. When they disclosed to him that Rosie, her friend, sat down for an interview, he's like, oh, wow, that's interesting. He's like. Because I tried multiple times to get Rosie to talk, I reached out to her and tried multiple. Because before the car accident, they were all hanging out. Rosie and Bubba and Davion and Mackenzie and Dom, they were all hanging out together. And I assume they may have all been imbibing on this in this lifestyle that may have been a dealer's lifestyle. I don't know for certain. I'm just, you know, it's my own conjecture. But for whatever reason, they weren't participating in the investigation. And the, the lead investigator, he's like, wow, that's. And he's like, I'm very curious to see what Rosie has to say because she had nothing to say to me when we were trying to find out how Dom and Davion actually died. Crazy that when two of your friends, Dom and Davion are dead and there are police and, and you know, people, detectives that are investigating this and yet you couldn't give them any information. But when you have an opportunity to pedal some narrative on Netflix now, suddenly you happen to be available and ready to talk about this case. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. But they also say that like, oh, nothing happened. We were just hanging out and they didn't get in a fight that night. They were so lovey dovey. Again, all information that they could have given to the police at the time of the accident or at the time of the investigation, none of which they did. They didn't want to participate in any questioning. One of them, Bubba, who I believe is dating Rosie, or I think they're together, he did claim, I guess there was something where he wanted to go visit Davion's room or Dom's room, he wanted to go visit one of their bedrooms to like get closure, which now I don't believe. Now I think he wanted to go to the bedroom to maybe look for something. They all seem shady to me now, all of them, but. So he claims that in, in the passing exchange, I guess at some point he runs into Mackenzie's father and Mackenzie's father asked Bubba to help them clear her daughter, their daughter's name. So it seemed. And that's kind of what I think happened. I think Bubba and Rosie and the red headed girl like all did this to help Mackenzie with her appeal to hopefully help get. I mean, I don't know what they're thinking or why they're even trying to protect this girl, but it's crazy. And according to one of the police reports or one of the, the records in the police reports, during Dom's memorial, I guess the Mackenzie wanted to attend the memorial and she threw a fit at the hospital. It caused a big scene at the hospital. So kind of thinking this is how she tends to get her way, specifically with her parents as she throws these crazy erratic tantrums similar to how she would throw tantrums with Dom. Then he started to film her crazy, but. So this is where her dad allegedly told one of the officers as they were trying to prevent Kenzie from leaving the hospital because she wanted to check herself out of the Hospital at that point. She was 18, he claimed, or I guess this is secondhand information. That's why it didn't come up in the Netflix documentary. I also think that without proof of them dealing drugs, without proof of Mackenzie, you know, selling photos or whatever, and you also have to remember, by the time of the accident, MacKenzie was still 17. She didn't turn 18 until, I believe, a couple of days afterwards. So for me, I think that may have been some of the reasons Netflix didn't want to touch any of that stuff is because they're, one, unproven allegations, and two, those are very serious allegations. And once you open that rabbit hole, you're dealing with a girl that was probably 16 or 17 that was doing these things at the time, you know, and when Dom's accusing her of, like, getting feet, like, that's crazy. Elle says, a scale. Come on, bro. No, I know. I'm with you. I think the scale is pretty telling, but I don't know if they had any actual proof. Do they have clients? Do they have, you know, any of the customers that came out and corroborated that? Like, I think it's pretty obvious, but I don't think they have any actual proof. And I believe their priority was focused on the murders rather than potential drug dealing. Who drives around with the. With the scale in their car? I don't know. I think it was in her purse next to the mushrooms. But I mean, listen, it's totally within the realm of possibility that, like, you know, she was just measuring her chicken because she wanted to make sure that she was treating her body right, as the redheaded girl said. I'm pretty sure the red headed girl would say that the scale was so that she could check her macros. You know, she wanted to make sure that she was eating the right amount of protein. Okay. By the way, I have a scale in my kitchen, which is actually for measuring my food. It's next to my blender and my coffee maker. I don't carry it with me. And also, I don't even have drugs. I'm not like a drug person. I know a lot of the gays do the pills and the stuff, but I just don't. Lizzie says, oh, for sake. I know, listen, measuring her food to take care of her fine ass body. Exactly. She was weighing the McDonald's chicken she doesn't eat. Exactly. There's an app for that. Is there an app for that? But so, yeah, they believe that the dad. So when she's trying to leave to go to the memorial, I Guess the dad disclosed to police officers that in the past, Mackenzie had threatened to take her own life before, and that's why he. He was worried about her in the hospital. And I guess he also says that, you know, she. She tried to kill Dom and Davion or he said something. And again, this is all hearsay and secondhand information. It wasn't like, you know, it was something that the officer kind of recalled in speaking to Mackenzie's father. And so I don't think there was anything substantial. And I think if they try to follow up on that, obviously the dad would recant and be like, I never said that. That was a misinterpretation or whatever. Right. But so it does appear that the dad was at least aware of her throwing tantrums and threatening her own life. And I think he may have believed that she. Or, I don't know, he was trying to do whatever he could to prevent her from leaving the hospital. And again, this is all secondhand information, so I believe that's why it wasn't included in the Netflix documentary. But the context of the statement is unclear, and the. His exact words are also unclear. The only thing that appears to be clear is that nobody, the doctors and her parents wanted her to leave the hospital that day, and the authorities were called. So it appears there were tantrums that were probably regularly thrown. And whether that statement was an admission or just him trying to keep his daughter safe in the hospital, also unclear, but definitely very suspicious. So lots of layers to all of this. Mackenzie herself, you know, like I said, tried to tell her side when she sat down with Netflix. There's the crazy wild bun. She seems to also have, like, a new accent. Like, she. Like I said, she really. She's like Iggy Azalea. She's like, who's that? A Cash Me outside girl. Like, how about that? Catch me outside. Like, she has, like, this new vernacular that she speaks with, and I'm like, okay. And this is, you know, a twist from the sweet, wholesome girl that we saw in court that, like, had no makeup on and her hair was down, and she was very humble, and she, like, was shocked that she was even in this position. Very different. She's, like, living that thug life in prison, and her whole interview was wild. At one point, towards the end, she even turns to her attorney and she's like, was that good? Should I have said anything else? Okay. Like, it was wild. I was like, who allowed that? Like, everything that came out of her mouth, everything that came out of her friend's Mouth. Everything that came out of her parents mouth was just like, wild. It was like audacity after audacity. And even now, I mean, the bun is the most criminal thing about her in this scene right here. But. And I mean, and the fact that she, I believe, is lying, in my personal opinion, but her parents are really convinced that she's innocent, and they're just like, there's no evidence that she did this on purpose. There's no evidence. Show us the evidence. Show us the evidence. There's no evidence of what actually happened in that car. And I was like, well, if there's no testimony, I don't think that there's a lack of evidence. I think there's a lack of testimony because the only person that could testify to what happened is Mackenzie, who claims she's a. Remember? But in terms of evidence, there's video footage and there's the information on the black box that shows that she was going 100 miles per hour on a windy road. The camera. The cameras caught when the car was going slowly, and then suddenly, next thing you know, she picks up speed and is racing down and crashes directly into this. Into this brick building that, again, she had apparently visited before. She had made threats of crashing the car before. Like, it's. I don't know. You put enough of those pieces together, it seems pretty clear. But she didn't get a jury trial because I believe where they're at, she had the option to either do a jury trial or to do a. A bench trial. And the bench trial basically just means you present your case to the judge and the judge makes a determination. And I guess people do that because they think that the judge may have some sort of leniency. But I don't think that that was the case because this judge was absolutely like, nah, not putting up with it. Judge was not having it. So I think. And again, this is my own conjecture, but I think it's true that Mackenzie and Dom were likely dealers. And I think that she was participating in lots of unsavory Snapchat stuff. And I. I don't remember if this was in the Netflix documentary or in the Serious Serialistly podcast, but there was a mention of the mom wanting Mackenzie's phone to access her Snapchat. I don't know if it's because the mom was told, you have to delete the stuff that's on my Snapchat or For whatever reason, she kept wanting to do. She wanted. She kept wanting to access the. The Mackenzie's phone in her Snapchat specifically. But I think the friends were likely in on it. And that's why, you know, they feel the need to protect Mackenzie now. They were in on whatever nefarious selling or dealing may have been going on. I think Mackenzie was volatile. I think she was unpredictable. I think she would throw tantrums because that's how she would get her way. I don't think her parents had much authority over her. She was known for her reckless fast driving. She was known to make threats to end her own life. I think she ran all over her parents. I mean, what parent is letting their kid hit rip. What do you say? Hit rip Bongs. Letting her do bongs all day every day. Like, hello, how are you not aware of. This is a 17 year old girl in high school and she has a whole bong all to herself. I think she ran all over them. And her parents probably felt guilty that they weren't there to actually raise her, which is why they feel the need to defend her so hard. Because it's all projection, right? It's possible that the parents were even aware of her nefarious ways and how she made her income. And I think it's possible that they were dependent on Mackenzie's income or they at least liked dependency's income. Mackenzie's income. Green lady's laughing at me. She said, do bong, kids. Well, I don't know. How do you do we? Like, how do you. You do, you hit the bong, you smoke. You don't smoke the bong. You smoke a joint, right? You smoke a fat one, you hit the bong, right? You're like, you know, I don't know. Oh my God. Did she did this in her parents house? Like she like, it's just, it's again, she's 17. You can hit the bong, smoke the bong. Got it. She got two life sentences, correct? She got. Yeah, 15 to life is what she was sentenced to. And she got hit with two of those sentences, but she's serving them together. Christina says you take bong rips. Got it. See, Octavia says, I still don't understand how a bong works. Thank you. You hit the bong. I think I maybe have hit a bong once or twice in my life and I wasn't very good at it because they were like, you do this, you do. And I was like, how do I do this? And they're like, you do it like this. And I don't know, I wasn't very good at it. But yeah, listen, she was known for her reckless fast Driving. She was known to make threats to her own life. She was seemingly known to walk all over her parents. So I think the parents were possibly, you know, benefiting from Mackenzie's lifestyle. Because also, what parent isn't questioning how their, their 17, 16 year old daughter isn't, is walking around with Chanel earrings. Now, again, that's assuming the Chanel earrings are real and not fake, but real Chanel earrings are expensive. They're not, you know, a couple hundred dollars. They're like a few thousands of dollars. So, yeah, and I don't know, she had a lot of. She had a lot of fancied stuff, and I know that that stuff ain't cheap. So I think her parents were at best benefiting from Mackenzie's lifestyle, or at least they were aware of, of the things that she was engaging in. And I think they got in a fight. Dom and Mackenzie got in a fight that night. I think with her flippant personality, she decided to act out and intentionally crash the car. And I think that it's possible that she wasn't expecting to survive. I think she just, in the moment was like, it, we're going down together, you know, crash, crash, boom. And it was just, it was done. I don't think she expected to survive, but I don't think she thought it through at all, to be honest. I think she was very impulsive. And now she seems to be loving all of this attention that she's getting. Her and her mom are loving it. Days. Literally days after the car accident, while still in the hospital, her mom was even on her Instagram account commenting, trying to get her modeling work, because I guess they were noticing, like, attention was getting picked up and then she was getting. The mom was getting upset with police officers because she's like, they think Mackenzie did this on purpose. Like, they're accusing her of doing this on purpose. You know, like I played for you the clip of her and Kim Kardashian. Her and Mackenzie laughing about Kim Kardashian should reach out to them. And oh my God, it was picked up in England. Like the UK is writing about this case. So, you know, they're loving this Netflix documentary. And even in the sentencing hearing when her mom comes up, also just truly insane and diabolical. Her mom comes up to talk to the judge and the mom goes on and on about all the ways Mackenzie is innocent and she's such a good girl and she's too pretty to be in prison and all of this shit. Right, right. But yeah, she fails to acknowledge the two people that MacKenzie killed or acknowledge the fact that she was behind the wheel at the time that these two young men were killed. And so then the judge brings that up, and the judge is like, I hear you talk a lot about your daughter, but I don't hear you talking a lot about the two boys that are now deceased. And she's like, oh, yes, you're right. You're right, you're right. And then she, like, tries to defend that and is. And dismisses Davion as like, oh, well, but David. Well, he was just a new friend. Friend. And the judge was just like. And that makes his life any less valuable, that he's just a new friend, like. And the mom's like, no, no, that's not what he meant. No, I'm so. Oh, I'm sorry. That's not what he meant. It's not what he meant. And I was just like, oh, my God, this mom is a piece of work. Like, truly a piece of work. Insane. But I think it's all projection, right? I think she feels guilty for not taking care of her kid, which led to these poor choices that, you know, led us to where we are now with this little. This. This darling angel baby. It's just. It's. It's truly wackadoodle. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. She knows. She knows. She knows. I know we didn't have an episode on Monday. I was gonna tape again on Saturday, but I feel like we covered. We spent the whole hour talking about Mackenzie and this crash story that. I'm thinking maybe we just take the next chunk of time to cover the rest of the stories, and maybe we skip a bonus that we. We extend this episode to make up for Monday's episode. No, I think she truly believes what she says. And probably this documentary is just an example of not all good. Of not all press is good press. Well, is it or isn't it? I mean, we seem to hate the bitch, but, like, she seems to be thriving. She's like, oh, my God, I love this.
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Zach Peter
Her lofty aspirations were learning Pig Latin better than proper English and to be an Instagram influencer. What a class act. Yeah. Let's see. Do we have. Let me see if I can find the moms. Mackenzie Shrilla, mom impact statement. Let's see. Do we have that? Oh, here we go. Oh, we do have it. We should watch it, right? Let's pull it up and I'll let you. Let's see how long it is first. In six minutes. Here, we'll. I'm gonna speed it up. I'm gonna put it on it. So apologies. I'm gonna put it on 1.5. So it's gonna be a little. Well, I don't know. We may need to do 1.25. That way you still get some of the. The impact of it. It's crazy. You're gonna be like, what the actual. Here we go.
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
My name is Natalie. I just want to say. Am I allowed to address them at all? Sure. I just want to say to the families that I'm broken, sad, and lost in my heart hurts for everyone. Okay? Davion was her new friend, and Dominic was the love of her life and who's part of our family. Okay? I'm just so sorry that this happened in my heart program. Okay? And then, Your honor, this was a terrible, tragic, nightmare accident to have happened that she has no memory of, and she will never emotionally or physically recover of it. Recover from it. She almost died, too. And we're asking that you please not run the sentences consecutive. He was family, and we all loved each other. That morning of the accident, she called. I got a phone call that there was a car accident. Okay? So we went to the hospital, and I didn't even know who was on the car. The names had not been confirmed yet. And I was. I'm gonna cry because I missed out so much. We loved him so much. So I called Dom.
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Zach Peter
Is she even crying? Like, Are there even tears in her eyes?
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
Like, over and over again, praying that he was gonna answer the phone. And he didn't answer the phone, so that I tried to call his mom, and she didn't answer the phone either. And I still didn't know who was in the car. I didn't even know she was alive. I didn't know what was happening. So then we were in the waiting room, and then his mom ended up. Did. She did call me. So I answered the phone, and I was like, oh, my God. Like, I don't even know who was in the car, like, what's happening? Was that diamond? She said, what do you mean, my son is dead? And I was like, I'm so sorry. And then she said something like, and now I have to wait until your kids out of the hospital. And then I didn't hear the rest. I just. I was like, we loved him so much. And I hung up the phone. I did not talk about social media. I didn't even know what was going on yet. Okay, so then that was it. In the hospital, that vitality post. I commented on that because somebody had called her a murderer.
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Zach Peter
Okay?
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
And she would. She's not a murderer. So she didn't even have her phone at that point because the police had. Still had it. Okay? So I jumped on, and I was like, you know, she's not a murderer, mind you.
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Zach Peter
Let me just remind you, okay? This is at the sentencing hearing, okay. Not during the trial. Not as she's on the witness stand. This is what she's telling the judge when the judge is about to determine how long to sentence Mackenzie. Mackenzie has already been found guilty, okay? They've already found her guilty of committing the murders of both of these gentlemen. This is now just the. The sentencing hearing where the judge determines how bad or how long to. To send her to prison. Okay? This is what she. This is her priority before bringing this before the judge.
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
She's more sad than hurt than most of these people commenting. She's been trying to get in touch with you. I mean, at that point, it was just an accident. So I commented on her behalf. Not because of the modeling opportunity. I don't even. Who cares about that? I don't want them.
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Zach Peter
You do.
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
As a murderer, okay? And I don't even know how that commented. Got on the phone because the police still had her device, and she could not access her phone or social media. That's why I did it.
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Zach Peter
Oh, okay. So we're thinking the police were trying to hook her up with the modeling gig. Okay, yeah, that. That makes sense.
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
And I had called them asking if they could shut down social media because people were calling her a murderer and making death threats and organizing groups to, you know, take her out when she got out of the hospital and stuff. So I don't even want her phone. I don't care about her phone. I don't care about social media. I just wanted them to stop calling her a murderer so that when she did come to and she did come out of surgery, multiple surgeries, that she wouldn't see all these people calling her a murder because she Would never, ever, ever murder the love of her life.
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Zach Peter
Okay?
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
The Halloween for three months after the accident, she would only wear his clothes. She would only eat the snacks he ate. She would only listen to the music he wrote. Okay?
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Zach Peter
Sounds like she's guilty of killing him.
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
She was laying in bed for three months, crying. There was a shrine of him next to her with photos and things that he liked in this flower that lights up that he got her because he wanted it to be fresh, alive forever. It's like a little Beauty and the beast flower. Okay? She's got this shrine of him next to her. So she was crying for three months. So her friends asked if she wanted to go out trick or treating or Halloween. And it was ou. And she didn't even want to go. She said, I don't know. Should I go? She couldn't even walk yet, barely. So I told her, I said, baby, please go. It's Halloween. You've been laying for three months, crying, only listening to his music. Please go. Have just a moment of fun. A moment of fun. So we told her to go.
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Zach Peter
This is because she went out for Halloween, like, a few weeks, or maybe it was a couple of months after the accident had happened and she had gone out. And this got pulled into question about, look, she's already going out. She dressed up as a corpse for Halloween, mind you. Okay? Mackenzie dressed up as a corpse. Okay. As a corpse after killing two people for Halloween and ended up going out. And that got pulled into question is, is there any remorse? And she didn't even need a costume. Yeah, she didn't need a costume. Only three months. Yeah, it was three months.
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
Months.
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Zach Peter
Yeah. Crazy. Went out for Halloween as a fucking court. Yeah, Insane. Insane. And they even pulled into question some of her TikTok videos that she made after the fact. Or maybe one of them was before about, like, how, you know, if you love me, you'll die for me. Like, you'll end up dying for me. Like, it was crazy.
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
My husband drove her. I brought her back home. She just needed a second of fun from losing her whole world. Her whole world.
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Zach Peter
So that was her whole world. They lost their lives, but she lost her whole world. Okay, Got it, Mom.
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
We told her to go. And that concert she went to with Dom's cousin Abby, they picked her up, they brought her there. That was Dom. McKenzie and Dom and Abby all decided to go to this concert together while they were in the hospital. That was for them. Everything she did after the accident was either in honor of him, to be close to him, or Just be by him any way that she can. She's, like, devastated. And tragedy was the air that she breathes. Okay. And they went with his cousin. We spent all kinds of time with him after the accident. What was the other thing? I'm hearing an awful lot about your daughter. I'm not hearing very much about the two dead people, Dominic. Okay, I'm asking you for a leniency because this was a tragic accident that she does not remember. And Davion. We don't. He's a new friend. I'm so sorry. Life is worthless. No, no, no, no, no. God, no. Not at all. They all. They all loved each other. They all spent every day together. You know what I mean? I don't. I don't know too much sorry. Isn't that part of the problem? That they all trusted each other? Isn't that part of. It's not a problem at all. It was wonderful how they all ended up in the car together and two of them ended up dead. I understand. I understand what it looks like. I'm. I'm. I'm saying that it was a tragic accident. You would never. But we're going to have to disagree on. I understand. Right. And I respect your position. Disagree with me. I understand. But anyway, that's it. I just wanted to address those. We told her to go to those things, and then she did go with Dom's family. So look at that. Don't look at it with. Look at. Look on that with different eyes if you can. Please. This is. That. Those things are not relevant. Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. But she's a good. If you would. If you would have a moment, all you would need is five minutes of a conversation to have with her to
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Zach Peter
learn she spent an entire trial with
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Mackenzie Shrilla's Mother
her who she is. Just that you just need five minutes to learn who she is and what she's capable of not doing and doing. And you would see for yourself. That's all. I'm so sorry, guys. I'm sorry.
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Zach Peter
I love you. Oh, my goodness. Should we watch Mackenzie's? We're like, oh, Donna has to go live right now. Okay. I'm sorry. Sorry, guys. Donna's gonna kill me. I apologize. We're just. We're having too much. Like. We're like. It's just. We're too invested in this. We're going down the rabbit hole too deep. I love that the judge is bringing the mom back to reality and that there we're here because she was and is capable of murder. Yeah. I think we have to wrap because Donna has to go live right now, and I don't want her to kill me. Poor choice of words. Don has to go live right now. So I'll. I'll cover tomorrow's topics or I'll cover the other topics tomorrow. I'll cover Dorit and pk. I'll cover Erica Jane, I'll cover Blake Lively's press tour. What else were we supposed to cover? Oh, and Chelsea Handler trashing the roast Survivor. I guess we can briefly cover that. I'll spend, like, two more minutes covering that because the other two stories are too long to. To get into, but. So Jeff Probst, he was hosting the live Survivor finale. What a shit show. That was live. I guess they were airing the finale and they were getting ready to reveal who the top three finalists were. And so Jeff, who's the host, he accidentally gave away the semi final elimination before they actually aired the segment. So I guess there was the finale that was taped beforehand. It was taped, I believe, last year, last summer. And there was the final challenge that they battle it out on the island of Survivor. And so they were gonna air that during this live finale where they announce who the winner is. They've done this for, like, Celebrity Apprentice used to do this. I mean, obviously, like, the. The American Idols and the voices. They do, like, like, live finales. But so. But like, Celebrity Apprentice would do that. I remember they would have these big live finales where they have the two finalists and they film everything, and then everyone's reunited on stage live and they're watching the finale live to see, like, who makes it to the final two, and then they reveal who the final two are, and then Trump would pick who the final winner was by the end in that life finale. So Survivor did that for their 50th anniversary or their 50th season. Is it 50th year anniversary or 50 season reasons? Anyway, it was Survivor 50, and he, I guess, revealed who lost the challenge before they actually ended up airing the clip. So clearly somebody fucked up on the teleprompter, and so they immediately, like, cut to commercial break, and then they had to come back and explain it afterwards. And I mean, yeah, that's live tv, folks, but I guess we're probably no longer gonna be getting live finale finales for Survivor in the future. Let's see. I guess Chelsea Handler, Dorit Kemsley, Erica Jane, I will cover those. And Blake Lively, I will cover those all tomorrow. I'll make sure we update the. The title and everything, too. I'm sorry guys, but just what a crazy time. Like cash me outside. What a crazy, crazy time. All right, guys, I do love you. I do appreciate you. Go show Donna bowling some love in her live and I will talk to you guys tomorrow. Tomorrow. Tomorrow is only. Sorry, I would have stayed longer, but I forgot Donna does go live at the 11 o' clock hour and she. She is probably waiting for me so that she can go live. All right, guys, have a good one. We'll cover the rest of the topics tomorrow. I love you. I appreciate you. Follow me at Just plain Zach all over the inner or Zach Peter all over the Internet. No filter with Zach on Instagram. Go show me all the nerve and the Clearbit the like button. Hit the subscribe button. We're so, so, so close to so close to hitting that 150. We're close to hitting the 130. The goal is 150. We're gonna get there. Let's get it. All right, guys, love you. Appreciate you. Talk to you tomorrow. Bye.
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