Trump makes explosive new announcement

Summary

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Podcast Summary – No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen

Episode: Trump makes explosive new announcement
Date: July 12, 2026
Host: Brian Tyler Cohen
Guest: Jon Lovett (Pod Save America)

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Overview

This episode tackles Donald Trump’s latest foreign policy bombshell—a self-proclaimed “guardianship” over the Strait of Hormuz and an Iranian blockade—that signals a sharp escalation in the Middle East, despite promises to end “forever wars.” Brian Tyler Cohen breaks down Trump’s move, the apparent permanence of U.S. military involvement, and the contradictions in Trump’s leadership. He then sits down with Jon Lovett to unpack new Trump administration scandals, such as those involving Kash Patel, analyze political strategy, discuss broken campaign promises (especially on housing), the use of power to suppress votes, and the infamous “Trump Curse” in sports and pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump's "Guardian of the Hormuz Strait" Declaration

[00:01 – 01:10]

• Main Announcement: Trump declares on Truth Social the U.S. will be the “Guardian of the Hormuz Strait,” instating an Iranian blockade, restricting only Iranian-related shipping while claiming open passage for all other nations.
• Implication: Cohen explains that a permanent presence in the region effectively means a new “forever war”—the very policy Trump and his voters claimed to reject.
• Satirical Recap:
  • Cohen mocks Trump’s logic:

    “We were in Vietnam for 19 years. We’re here for four months. See, as long as we come in under 19 years, we’re apparently fine.” (01:10)

• Broader Critique: Cohen lists major Trump campaign promises he’s failed to deliver on: lowering prices, curbing inflation, releasing Epstein files, looking out for the “little guy,” and, crucially, avoiding Middle Eastern entanglements.

2. Interview: Jon Lovett (Pod Save America)

[05:02 – 25:46]

Kash Patel Scandal

[05:02 – 10:48]

• Kash Patel’s Misconduct:
  • Lavish spending—snorkeling at Pearl Harbor, using FBI jets for personal errands.
  • Summoned by the White House for possible waste, fraud, and abuse.
• Lovett’s Take:
  • “There’ll never be proper oversight... Cash Patel is not indispensable... this summoning may just be a stern talking-to.” (05:39)
  • Patel’s brash social media presence isn’t a sound media strategy.
• On Trump’s Hires:
  • Lovett labels Trump’s appointees as unqualified loyalists “serving at the grace of Donald Trump.”
  • Notably, Trump needs loyalty, but not so much incompetence “that it embarrasses the Dear Leader.”

  “You can’t be so boorish and stupid and incompetent that it embarrasses the Dear Leader.” (07:42)

  • Lovett calls Patel, Pam Bondi, Todd Blanchard “hacks of the purest order,” with little political protection.

Internal Loyalty & Political Fallout

• Trust Issues:
  • Dismissed officials may leak damaging information (Epstein suppression referenced), but staying close to Trump is generally more lucrative for them.
  • “Being on the wrong side of Donald Trump, when you’re already on the wrong side of everybody who hates Donald Trump, doesn’t leave a lot of places to make the kind of money they want to make.” (09:09)

Housing Bill Hostage Tactics

[10:48 – 15:13]

• Trump Withholds Housing Bill:
  • Refuses to sign bipartisan housing bill, leveraging it to force a vote on the Save America Act (focused on centralizing election power).
• Quote, via Mike Johnson:

  “Nobody cares about housing, but they do care about suppressing the vote.” (12:10)

• Lovett’s Perspective:
  • Housing is core to the American Dream, especially for young people.
  • “Petulant maniac” is Lovett’s description of Trump’s tactics:

    “He’s just kind of mad. It’s a tantrum. He’s having a little tantrum. That’s what he’s doing. It’s crazy.” (13:47)

Election Strategy & Authoritarian Shifts

[15:13 – 16:52]

• Trump’s Political Priorities:
  • Prioritizes voter suppression and weaponization of the Justice Department over actual governance.
  • Aims to have prosecutors target Democratic opponents ahead of midterms—an authoritarian approach to securing victories.
  • “He doesn’t care about winning fair and square at all. I do think he would like to win unfairly. Below that would be winning fairly... After that would be losing, but having people he can blame.” (15:54, Lovett)

3. The Trump Curse: Sports & Pop Culture

[19:01 – 23:23]

• World Cup Debacle:
  • Trump attends, U.S. team loses to Belgium; “Trump Curse” humorously discussed.
• Lovett’s Sports Analogy:
  • Describes Trump as flipping the underdog narrative:

    “He made us the fucking like, the villain in the story... He fucked the vibe.” (19:37; 20:16)

  • FIFA’s relationship with Trump raises conflict-of-interest questions.
  • When institutions are corrupted, even valid advocacy appears tainted:

    “If you turn the Justice Department into your personal law firm, then when the Justice Department says there’s nothing to see here, nobody believes it.” (22:12)

• Cultural Impact:
  • Belgian team’s reaction (“overturn this”) highlights the optics of U.S. intervention and bad leadership.

4. The Administration’s "Alpha" Fitness Obsession

[23:23 – 25:25]

• Fitness Antics:
  • Satirical rundown of administration officials (Sean Duffy, RFK Jr., Dr. Oz) showing off strength.
  • Lovett humorously critiques their “heavy weights, no cardio, no stretching” mindset:

    “Fellas, you may like the way your arms look now, but you’re gonna be shuffling when you’re older.” (06:44, 24:19)

  • The focus is all on "glory muscles"—surface strength without real substance.

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Notable Quotes

• Brian Tyler Cohen on military entanglements:

  "If we have a permanent presence in a hostile territory, then in effect, what Trump is announcing here is... a forever war. The exact thing he campaigned against, the exact thing that his voters despised." (00:34)

• Jon Lovett on administration loyalists:

  “If you’re in a job you’re only in because the boss put you there, even though no other president would ever have you... you’re kind of loyal to him... But you can’t be so boorish and stupid and incompetent that it embarrasses the Dear Leader.” (07:19)

• Jon Lovett on Trump and housing:

  “He called up Mike Johnson and said, and I believe this is near-quote, ‘Nobody cares about housing, but they do care about suppressing the vote.’” (12:10)

• Jon Lovett on Trump’s leadership style:

  “What kind of petulant maniac tries to basically just... It’s a tantrum. He’s having a little tantrum.” (13:47)

• Jon Lovett on Trump’s approach to power:

  “He doesn’t care about winning fair and square at all. I do think he would like to win unfairly. Below that would be winning fairly... After that would be losing, but having people he can blame.” (15:54)

• Jon Lovett on Trump's impact on sports:

  “He made us the fucking villain in the story. And so... he fucked the vibe.” (19:37; 20:16)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:01 – 01:10: Trump’s Strait of Hormuz announcement and critique
• 05:02 – 10:48: Kash Patel scandal and administration loyalty
• 10:48 – 15:13: Housing bill standoff and voter suppression focus
• 15:13 – 16:52: Authoritarian tactics and midterm strategies
• 19:01 – 23:23: Trump Curse in sports, FIFA corruption, broader cultural optics
• 23:23 – 25:25: Gym culture and "alpha male" antics in the administration

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Memorable Moments

• Cohen’s recurring mockery of Trump’s inability to keep campaign promises, particularly on avoiding endless foreign military conflict.
• Lovett’s satirical description of administration officials' “heavy weights, no cardio, no stretching” fitness, and his prediction of their future frailty.
• Discussion of the “Trump Curse” and how Trump’s presence sours even unrelated feel-good moments in American public life.
• The use of direct, biting humor—especially Lovett's analogies to 80s sports movies and “glory muscle” culture.
• Candid commentary on the transition from promised populism to actual culture of entrenched power, broken promises, and self-interest.

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Conclusion

This episode of No Lie offers an incisive, often scathing look at the realities behind Trump’s foreign and domestic policies, the hollowness of campaign promises, internal dysfunction, and the cultural absurdities in today’s politics. Brian Tyler Cohen and Jon Lovett blend sharp analysis with humor, highlighting the implications of political theatrics, the problems of unqualified loyalty, and the ever-present risk of authoritarian creep—all while keeping things deeply engaging for listeners seeking both information and wit.

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Transcript

[A]

Donald Trump makes an explosive new announcement that signals bad news for opponents of forever wars. And I interview Pod Save America's John Lovett. I'm Brian Tyler Cohen, and you're listening to no Lie. So Trump just shook up the world with a brand new announcement he took to true social writing. The Hormuz Strait is open and will remain open with or without Iran. We are instating the Iranian blockade, so named because it is only stopping Iran ships or customers from entering or leaving. All other countries will have fair and open use of the strait. The USA will be, from this point forward, known as the Guardian of the Hormuz Strait. Now, let me simplify this. What would it mean in practice if the United States became the, quote, guardian of the Hormuz Strait? Would it mean that the US Would need a permanent presence to guard that strait? And if we have a permanent presence in a hostile territory, then in effect, what Trump is announcing here is, is a forever war. The exact thing he campaigned against, the exact thing that his voters despised, which Trump basically confirmed when he said this. But, Mr. President, you noted the United

[B]

States is bombing Iran again.

[A]

I mean, you've been bombing Iran for months now. Is this just the new normal for the American? No.

[B]

Well, you know, we were in Vietnam for 19 years.

[A]

We're here for four months. See, as long as we come in under 19 years, we're apparently fine. And then, of course, after Trump decided to vomit out the single least popular foreign policy position he could have cooked up, the rest of the party had to translate from Trump to English because apparently this 80 year old man who just so happens to be the President of the United States of America, isn't capable of expressing a coherent thought and we need other elected officials to tell us what he actually meant. Yeah, it totally won't be a forever war. We're simply gonna guard the Strait of Hormuz forever against the country that we're at war with. See, definitely not a forever war. And yet, what can we expect from a President who swore that prices would go down and instead he unilaterally raised them by launching a trade war? What can we expect from a President who swore that inflation would go down only to see it rise by 30%? Who swore that the Epstein files would be released only to engage in a government wide cover up? Who swore that he would look out for the little guy and instead has immersed himself in gold and ballrooms and jets? There is not a single thing that Trump promised that's come to fruition. So of course he swore that he would void forever wars in the Middle east, only to announce a policy that is, in effect, a brand new forever war in the Middle East. Par for the course for a president whose only consistent principle is his inability to deliver anything. For anyone not named Donald Trump, next up is my interview with Pod Save America's John Lovett. But first, a big announcement. Today is the official launch of my new book, the Day After. I've been working on this book for a year. I'm very proud of how it turned out. I would really love if you could order a copy. The book demands that democr Democrats learn how to wield power so that when we control the House, the Senate and the White House, we don't waste a second of our precious time talking about it. We start doing it and we don't let norms or traditions or processes stand in the way and we deliver on health care, on voting rights, on climate, a fair economy, expanding the court, and so much more. If you agree with that message and you want to support my work, want to support this podcast, you can click the link in the show notes of this episode or go to briantylercohen.com book there. You can also grab tickets to my book tour. I'll be in dc, New York and Los Angeles. Tickets are still available. So again, the link to both order the book and grab book tour tickets is in the show notes of this episode [e-mail] book okay, here's my interview with Jon Lovett. No Lie is brought to you by BetterHelp. The good news is that we talk about mental health more openly now, but asking for help can still feel hard, and BetterHelp's latest research confirms it. BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stig surveyed 2,000Americans and revealed that 85% of Americans believe getting support is wise, yet 74% say society discourages people from doing so. In other words, we recognize the problem and the solution, but it's still difficult to take steps to actually seek help. As someone who's done it, trust me when I say that you will be glad you did. And BetterHelp is a great place to start. With over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, Having served over 6 million people globally, and it works with an average rating of 4.9 out of 5 for a live session based on over 1.7 million client reviews. BetterHelp therapists work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the US and importantly, BetterHelp does the initial matching work for you so you can focus on your therapy goals. A short questionnaire helps identify your needs and preferences and their more than 12 years of experience and industry leading match fulfillment rate means they typically get it right the first time. If you aren't happy with your match, switch to a different therapist at any time from their tailored recommendations. Don't let stigma stand in the way of support. Start therapy with better help. Sign up and get 10% [e-mail] Nolie that's betterhelp.com Nolie I'm joined now by the co host of Potsy of America, Jon Lovett. Lovett, thanks for joining me.

[B]

Great to see you.

[A]

So I want to talk about Kash Patel here because obviously Kash Patel is embroiled in something of a brand new scandal. This is in the aftermath of him snorkeling at Pearl harbor and taking the jet, the FBI jet to go to music festivals that his girlfriend is performing in. Now he's been summoned by the White House. And so do you anticipate this is in the immediate aftermath of Chuck Grassley coming out and saying that he is being investigated for possible waste, fraud and abuse? When you hear that, that Cash Patel is being summoned to the White House, does that offer any indication whatsoever that he's, that there's going to be proper oversight or that anything is going to happen to him?

[B]

Oh well, there'll never be proper oversight. Something could happen to him. Cash Patel is, is not indispensable. I think they could fire Cash Patel. They may not. Right? This, this, this summoning may just be a stern talking to. It could be the end of his time at the FBI. It could be him finding out he's no longer going to be FBI director and we find that out sometime later. I have no idea. I do think his posting this about his lavish spending by saying my jet ski is gold plated, dumbass. Yeah, it was not the successful media strategy he was hoping it would be.

[A]

But I'm curious though, because isn't this whole administration predicated on kind of like that exact macho like alpha energy anyway? Like that's why these people are there. Pete Hegseth is there because that's what, that's the shtick that he does. Dan Bongino was there. Cash Patel is there because they all do this shtick. I mean these guys are out here doing pull ups every five minutes wherever they can get a camera on them. And so, and so why is it okay in one instance but when they continue to do those, theatrics suddenly, it might be disqualifying.

[B]

I want to come up with some sort of term for their style of fitness, which is something like heavy weights. No cardio, no stretching. That is what I.

[A]

Shirt off.

[B]

It's heavy weights, no cardio, no stretching. That's to me what I see with this, with the style that they're going for. And fellas, boy, you may like the way your arms look now, but you're gonna be shuffling when you're older. You gotta listen. I know it seems a little bit gay and feminine to hop on the Pilates reformer, but I'll be the one that lasts last. Do I have the biggest muscles? No. Can I bench press the most? No, but I'll. But I'll be lapping you fuckers when I'm in my 70s. All right. Because of the core strength. All right, and the flexibility. Core strength and flexibility is what it's ultimately all about. And, and you get you, you. Oh, wow, you're lifting a lot of weight, Pete Hegseth. You're going to be shuffling. You're going to be shuffling. Then you're. Then you're struggling to get in and out of tubs. That's how it ends. That's how it always ends. Now back to Cash tell. So Trump has a problem, and this is a problem with being under, you know, a kooky, eugocentric autocrat, which is he doesn't draw the best people. And so he has to put in people that aren't that talented. That has certain advantages. Because if you're in a job you're only in because the boss put you there, even though no other president would ever have you in that job, you're kind of loyal to him. Right? You have an obligation. Right. Cash Patel serves at the, really serves at the grace of Donald Trump. But you can't be so boorish and stupid and incompetent that it embarrasses the Dear Leader. So he has these goobers who aren't qualified. That's helpful to him. They make a fool of Trump. He has to get rid of them. Cash has really skirted that line. Hegseth skirts it too. Right? But Hegseth hasn't had the same style of personal scandal that Cash has had.

[A]

I'm curious, you know, if we're in a position where Donald Trump lets go of Cash Patel, how can you be ensured that these people who are high ranking officials in the government where, you know, right now they're suppressing the Epstein files, how do you have some degree of certainty that because they have. They know where all the skeletons are in your closet, that they don't go out and just vomit it out into the public.

[B]

You mean like someone like Cash Patel doing something?

[A]

Correct. Yeah.

[B]

So I don't know. I. I don't know what. What motivates someone like a Cash Patel or Odan Bongino. You don't want to make an enemy of Trump.

[A]

Right. And you just want to stay in the good graces of. Of the MAGA universe.

[B]

Yeah. They all want to make money. They all want to have their deals, they want to do podcasts, they want to be lobbyists, whatever it looks like. And being on the wrong side of Donald Trump when you're already on the wrong side of everybody who hates Donald Trump doesn't leave a lot of places to make the kind of money they want to make. Cash Patel seems to have fancy taste.

[A]

Clearly, he's.

[B]

Look, the other. The other problem, Right, is Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Todd Blanchard. These people are the bottom. Right. Like, we've had people like Barr who were political animals, but they were sophisticated and they did Donald Trump's bidding, but they. They. You know, like when he put his memo out saying that the Mueller report actually found the opposite of what the Mueller report found. You give a lot of examples of what people like Barr did, but Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, these are hacks just of the purest order. He is. And so it's like the. There's no. There's no one who would be worried. Right. Like, there were people that would have wanted someone like Abar to stay, even senators who would have wanted someone like Abbar to stay because they didn't want, like, who the alternatives were. That's not the case with somebody. Cash Patel. Cash Patel has nobody in his corner. Yeah. So Donald Trump doesn't really lose a lot by firing that guy. And it's not like a lot of people are worried about who comes after Cash Patel. You can't do worse.

[A]

Yeah. Or.

[B]

You know what? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I. That is a. That is a. That is a curse I've just unleashed. I am having. I think it is hard to imagine what worse than Cash Patel looks like. However, I am prepared to be unpleasantly surprised.

[A]

Yeah. I want to switch to a different topic here, but before we do, I want to let folks know that I'm going to be with you, love, in Los Angeles on July 18th. And there are still tickets available. It's gonna be in Santa Monica. So for those who are Watching right now. If you live in LA, if you have friends or family who are in LA and you're free at 4pm on July 18th, we'd love to see you in person. So I'm gonna put the link to grab tickets to our book event right here on the screen and also in the post description of this video. So with that said, I wanna move over to some new news that we have now, which is Donald Trump made the announcement that he's not gonna sign the housing bill, the housing bill that he ran on as a campaign promise, the housing bill that his own party passed. So that, and instead he wants to use it as kind of a hostage so that he can try and pass the Save America act, which has no, no chance of passing anyway. But in light of the fact that already so many promises have been broken, costs are not down, they're up. Healthcare is not expanded, it's been gutted. Inflation's not down, it's rising. He's not only failed to prevent us from going into foreign wars, he started new ones. Epstein files aren't released. The government is suppressing them. And now, you know, on this one kind of bureaucratic aspect of things where he, where he was able to get a win on housing, that's going to be a failure on his part too. And so what do you think his thought process is here? That he's preventing himself from notching his own win and delivering on a promise that he made.

[B]

So first of all, he called up Mike Johnson and said, and I believe this is near, quote, nobody cares about housing, but they do care about suppressing the vote. That's his claim. Right. We can't do housing if we're not going to do my voter suppression. Will housing, especially among young people, it is one of the most important issues, certainly long term. It is the greatest obstacle that a lot of people feel to achieving the American dream. If you dig into why young people today believe they will not have a life as good as their parents, or if you ask people why they believe the American dream no longer exists, is no longer or is no longer acceptable, it often will come back to housing. This was a rare moment of old school bipartisan politics. This received a ton of support from Republicans and Democrats. There were compromises. It's not perfect, but it was a rare place where Donald Trump was going to sign a bill that was meant to actually address a serious long term problem in a thoughtful way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And by the way, he's too much of a bitch to veto the thing. Right. He doesn't want to actually like. What he's really doing is denying Republicans the light of him saying how great it is in their presence, which is what a lot of these guys really want. He's gonna let it become law, but kind of begrudgingly because he's pissed that they won't suppress the vote. So the press conference, by the way, was already set. It was going to happen. There were, there were speakers at the podium. He decided to do this at the absolute last minute. So ultimately I do think it's a good thing that he's not, hopefully is not going to veto the outright.

[A]

Veto it. Yeah.

[B]

And that as long as it will, he's not, he's also not pocket videoing it so it can become law. But what kind of petulant maniac tries to basically just. I don't, I don't even know what you would call it. It's just such an immature thing. There's no consequences of it. He's just kind of mad. It's a tantrum. He's having a little tantrum. That's what he's doing. It's crazy.

[A]

There is some thought that Donald Trump is just giving up on the midterms because again, we're engaged in this war that he swore he would never engage in. Gas prices are surging right now. And as the memorandum of understanding as they've reneged on it now, gas prices took their biggest jump in, I think, since the start of this war. Since the start of this war. We're seeing those gas prices surge again right now. But I actually, I don't think that Trump has given up on midterms. I think he's given up on trying to win midterms on the merits because the fact that he's holding this bill, the housing bill, hostage for the Save America act shows that that's where his priority is. And there's a direct link between trying to pass the Save America act and winning the midterms or winning elections by usurping control of state run elections into the federal government. So it's not that I think he's given up on midterms. I think he's given up on trying to win midterms on the merits and instead is just trying to shoehorn victories by like these anti Democratic, small d Democratic measures.

[B]

Yeah, well, so I think, and if he is ultimately going to lose the midterms, he would love to blame the Republicans for failing to do what it takes and having passed the SAVE act, by the way, this comes back to the Cash Patel part of it as well because, yeah, Cash Patel has these embarrassing stories and he's clearly incompetent and not up for the job. One thing Donald Trump wants to do is investigate his political opponents. He wants to use the Justice Department to go after Democrats. We've, we don't know yet what's going to come out of their attempts to do that. With Gavin Newsom, we don't. Or some of these other Letitia James,

[A]

James Comey, Tim Walls, Jacob Fry.

[B]

A lot of these things are ongoing. But all it takes is a couple of MAGA prosecutors to start looking into Talarico or Sherrod Brown or any of the other places where we have a potential pickup in the Senate. Right. So even before we get to election Day, he would like to be using all the levers of power to go after his political opponents and try to tilt the the favor towards Republicans even though they're based on the polls, not in a very good position. That is partly about suppressing the vote. It's also about using the law against his opponents. But yeah, he doesn't care about winning fair and square at all. I do think he would like to win unfairly. Below that would be winning fairly, even though that's not on offer. After that would be losing, but having people he can blame. The worst case and unacceptable version of this is losing and being expected to take responsibility, which I don't see is in the cards.

[A]

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[B]

So I don't know a lot about sports, but I've watched a lot of sports movies and in an 80s movie, think about the Mighty Ducks, all right? You want to be the Mighty Ducks? You want to be the Mighty Ducks going against the well funded rich kid team, right? These are scrappy kids. They don't have a lot of the supplies, right? Rocky, he's chasing chickens. Drago, he's got the technical equipment behind him, he's got the Soviet machine behind him. Rocky's just a man on his own. All he's got is patriotism. That's all he's got behind him.

[A]

He's got heart.

[B]

And Donald Trump, the President of the United States, he made Belgium. He made them the guys chasing the chickens around. He made Belgium the fucking Mighty Ducks, all right? And we're the, we're the, the, the black suited people showing in up our limos, rolling down our window, saying, I think we're gonna try to win this soccer game, that he made us the fucking like the villain in the story. And so I, look, I, I joked about, of all the ways Donald Trump could be corrupt, attacking the European chauvinists at, at FIFA is like, you know, not high on my list of problems. But he did Fuck the vibe. He fucked the vibe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because if you like some, like, if you're the, you think about the fire in the belly of those fucking just, just, just waffles and ambition just inside their stomach, just dipping fries in mayo and just getting ready to fucking bring everything they had to taking on the Americans.

[A]

And I think it's also worth noting, like, we were the underdogs going into this. Like, the US Is not a soccer country and we could have been. And by the way, people, we had curried some goodwill because we have people coming from all over the world. They were eating our shitty fast food and enjoying our shitty fast food, talking about how much, how much they like all of our sugar filled everything. And we curried some favor despite the fact, in spite of the fact that the government is so shitty. And I think that's what people think of when they think of the United States. But now we have people, the host cities are doing great, everyone's enjoying themselves, a lot of goodwill. And then all of a sudden, to your exact point, we become the bad guy. We're no longer the underdog. Belgium is the, is the, is the scrappy underdog. And yes, it killed the vibe.

[B]

Those Belgian players going back to, going back to Brussels. Their only problem is they can't have sex twice at the same time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just having been so heroic and defeat four one F ck but the, the, the, like Donald Trump, like, part of this, right, is I could see like Barack Obama, like being asked at a press conference after the red card, like, what'd you think of that red card? And I could see him being like, I think it was if he's president. I think it's bullshit. Yeah, right. Like, I could see a politician doing that. It's not bad to have a president who advocates for the country. It isn't. The problem is this is where it's like, this is the problem of corruption, right? Which is in a moment where there was something unfair. You can't trust that FIFA is not going to be beholden to Trump because they gave him the fucking peace prize. And they've rented office space in Trump Tower. You know that they rented office space in Trump Tower. Actually didn't know that FIFA rented office space in Trump Tower. And according to the Times, it basically sat idle and unused just to curry favor with Donald Trump. And so they're so corrupt that in a moment where you would want like, kind of an advocate to say, you can't trust any process that comes out of it, by the way, he pays for this too. Right. One reason the Epstein story doesn't go away is because if you turn the Justice Department into your personal law firm, then when the Justice Department says there's nothing to see here, nobody believes it.

[A]

Right. Right. And by the way, you know that the Belgians were using this as a motivator because the first thing they tweeted in the aftermath was, overturn this, that.

[B]

And you see them dancing to the ymca, and it's like, I was like, you know what? Like, Trump. Trump gets him to pull the red card. I was like, you asshole. Okay, fine. I'm glad. I'm glad our guy can play. And so I'm like, rooting. I'm like, all right, I can get behind this a little bit. A little bit. Just saying a little bit. I know it's wrong. I know it's wrong. I know it's wrong. But listen, Trump. Trump will leave the stage, but we'll still have Europe to annoy us. So it's like, let's. Let's not lose our heads. But then when I see those guys saying, overturn this, and I see them dancing in ymca, and it's like, fuck, that's a good burn. Yeah, you got us.

[A]

Hard to be. Hard to be mad at them. It's like, hard to be mad at them.

[B]

It's like. When it's like. It's like, if it's like, Trump. Trump is like, in this case, like a family member who we know they're right about, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Fuck. Yep. 100% last thing. Love it. I want to get your opinion on this latest feat of. Of physical heroicism at the hands of one Trump administration official. We've seen. We've seen Sean Duffy do pull ups in the airport. We've seen RFK shirtless, bench pressing wherever he can get his hands on a barbell. But now we have perhaps the best feat of all. We have Dr. Oz.

[B]

So let's.

[A]

Let's see what this clip shows still.

[B]

But you gotta do squats the right way.

[A]

Don't lean forward.

[B]

You want to sit back like your bottom is about to touch the toilet seat. Like, about to go back like that. Touch. Practice it. It'll come natural. Oh, come on. I feel like this was manipulated in some way. That's unbelievable. The first. The first one really got me. The first one really got me.

[A]

Same with me.

[B]

So did you see him do that full squat, by the way? And he kind of loses his balance a little. He goes a little too far back. He's not wrong about the squat, but he's got no flexibility.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm worried about these guys.

[A]

It's, it's, it goes back to what you were saying, which is.

[B]

Yeah, you can't just. It can't just be about lifting these guys that go into the gym. I want. I like, I see it all the time and I like, I was like, I actually was thinking about it even like not related to politics that like, you see these guys and like, they look strong. They're like strong guys. But it's like, I don't know what you would call it. It's like husky strong, like soft strong, where I'm like, I know you're going to the gym, but I don't think you're doing anything other than the glory muscles. Yeah, yeah. Or just even just like big lifting. Yeah. And look, you've got some glory muscles going these days, Brian. Look, the YouTube audience is noticing. Look at this, look at this, look at these. Yeah, they're noticing. They're noticing. Look at these. Look at this. What is it? Is it a child of Jodeci guns is. It's an anti pro.

[A]

This is anti. Anti. Second amendment, but also pro gun.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure.

[A]

Well, that seems like a good place to leave off. If you want to see me and love it more in conversation, please grab tickets to our book talk on July 18, 4pm in Santa Monica. I'm going to put that link right here on the screen and also in the post description. And if you're not yet subscribed to Pod Save America's YouTube channel, I'm going to throw that link on the screen as well. Help us build up this progressive media ecosystem. Love it. Thanks, man.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

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