EP 78: MK ULTRA MAGA

Summary

Podcast Summary: EP 78: MK ULTRA MAGA – "No Mercy with Tommy G"

Podcast Information:

• Title: No Mercy
• Host: Tommy G
• Episode: EP 78: MK ULTRA MAGA
• Release Date: August 11, 2022
• Description: Tommy G returns to tackle sports, life, and critiques of the current generation, delving into controversial and conspiratorial topics deemed too intense for mainstream media.

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1. Reintroduction and Podcast Updates

[00:00] Tommy G: Tommy G opens Episode 78 with enthusiastic greetings, addressing fans who've noticed his absence. He updates listeners on his various podcast endeavors, emphasizing the intensity and depth of this particular episode:

"This podcast was fucking flames. It was fire right out the gate."

He teases the primary focus on former President Trump, hinting at a comprehensive theory that only a fraction of which is revealed in the current episode.

2. Deep Dive into the Trump Theory

[00:50] Tommy G: Tommy teases his extensive theory about Trump:

"I think he did that. I think he. Who the fuck else would know where everything is in his house?"

He suggests that Trump's recent FBI raid might be a meticulously planned false flag operation aimed at undermining his influence and rallying his base.

3. False Flag Draft and Dark Humor

[03:09] Bill Rupp: The conversation shifts to a segment called the False Flag Draft, where Tommy and his guests engage in provocative and dark humor, discussing hypothetical and offensive scenarios:

"You almost got raped," "I just want you to talk about slitting throats and bleeding out cunts."

This segment serves as both a humorous interlude and a metaphorical exploration of conspiracy theories.

4. Discussion on Joe Rogan's Influence

[16:03] Tommy G: The trio evaluates Joe Rogan's role in the podcasting landscape, debating his authenticity and possible affiliations:

"I don't think at all."

They analyze Rogan's shift to Spotify and his handling of controversial topics, pondering whether he might be subtly influenced or protecting certain agendas.

5. Alex Jones Trial and Its Implications

[30:37] Bill Rupp: The conversation turns to Alex Jones's trial, with reflections on his credibility and influence:

"The trial, actually, because it was in, like, a weird little small courtroom. Like, I don't. It just looked fake."

Tommy expresses skepticism about Jones's motives and the aftermath of his legal battles, suggesting that his persona has been molded to serve particular narratives.

6. Climate Change and the Inflation Reduction Act

[59:27] Tommy G: Tommy critiques the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022, labeling it as a facade for deeper economic and political manipulations:

"$400 billion of this bill was spent for fucking some bullshit climate change narrative."

He argues that such legislation is less about genuine climate action and more about increasing governmental control and tax burdens, exacerbated by an influx of IRS positions aimed at auditing citizens.

7. Private Prisons and Police Corruption

[53:39] Bob's Lessons: The discussion shifts to the rise in crime rates and the expansion of the private prison system:

"I think you're more of a rape invitee than I am."

Tommy and his guests argue that increased crime statistics are artificially inflated to justify the expansion of law enforcement budgets and private incarceration facilities, viewing this as a mechanism for money laundering and power consolidation.

8. Historical Conspiracies and Secret Societies

[94:17] Bob's Lessons: The hosts delve into historical conspiracies involving U.S. presidents and secret societies:

"They were in secret societies, they were mobbed up, they did dark ass occult."

Tommy connects modern political figures to ancient secret societies, suggesting that symbols like the Freemason pins are indicators of deeper, ongoing conspiracies aimed at controlling societal narratives.

9. Interaction with Uncle Danny: Ultra Maga Phenomenon

[75:12] Tommy G: An unexpected segment unfolds as Uncle Danny joins the conversation, leading to a tense and confrontational exchange about political affiliations and the newly coined term "Ultra Maga":

"They raided his house. Now he's Ultra Maga."

Uncle Danny defends his stance, reacting to Tommy's accusations and banter with sharp retorts. The interaction underscores the podcast's edgy and unfiltered approach to discussing polarized political topics.

10. Concluding Rants and Final Thoughts

[143:47] Tommy G: As the podcast nears its end, Tommy delivers a passionate rant about the perceived hypocrisy and manipulative tactics of political factions:

"Do you see everyone in the maga movement and on the right screaming about how ridiculous it is to treat a fucking former president the way that they're treating Trump with this raid?"

He theorizes that recent events are orchestrated to maintain Trump's relevance and manipulate public focus, effectively serving as a puppeteered distraction from other political failings.

[147:57] Final Words: The episode concludes with light-hearted jabs among the hosts and a reiteration of the podcast's conspiratorial themes:

"I am Tommy G. Good luck. Stay questioning. Mercy is for the weak. We do not train to be merciful here."

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Notable Quotes:

• Tommy G [00:00]: “This podcast was fucking flames. It was fire right out the gate.”
• Uncle Danny [75:12]: “They went after him. Now he's got to come back.”
• Tommy G [59:27]: “$400 billion of this bill was spent for fucking some bullshit climate change narrative.”
• Bob's Lessons [53:39]: “I think you're more of a rape invitee than I am.”
• Tommy G [143:47]: “Do you see everyone in the maga movement and on the right screaming about how ridiculous it is to treat a fucking former president the way that they're treating Trump with this raid?”

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Key Insights:

• False Flag Operations: The hosts explore the concept of false flag operations, particularly in the context of political maneuvers against former President Trump.
• Media Influence: A critical examination of how media figures like Joe Rogan and Alex Jones shape and possibly distort public perception through selective discourse.
• Economic Manipulation: Claims that legislative actions, such as the Inflation Reduction Act, are tools for increasing governmental overreach and financial control over citizens.
• Secret Societies: Persistent themes of hidden agendas and secretive groups (e.g., Freemasons) influencing historical and contemporary political events.
• Polarized Politics: The podcast underscores deep political divides, with hosts expressing disdain for perceived hypocrisy and manipulative tactics within both major political factions.

Conclusions: Episode 78 of "No Mercy with Tommy G" delves into a myriad of controversial and conspiratorial topics, centering primarily on the theory that former President Trump's recent legal troubles are orchestrated false flag operations. The hosts intertwine discussions on media influence, economic legislation, secret societies, and polarized politics to present a narrative that challenges mainstream viewpoints. The episode is characterized by its unfiltered language, provocative humor, and a relentless pursuit of alternative explanations for current events, making it a polarizing yet captivating listen for those interested in conspiracy theories and alternative political analyses.

Transcript

[Tommy G]

What up, party people? It's your boy, Tommy G here with episode 78 of the no Mercy podcast. We are back. For those of you that said that I've been missing in action. I've done a shit ton of podcasts. Make sure you check out no Mercy plus. Doing one of those every single week over there with the fucking goof troop. Plus we did two other ones, False Flag Draft and the fucking live podcast from Romanelli's the Dojo of Comedy. Check those out too. But this podcast was fucking flames. It was fire right out the gate. You got what you wanted, ok? You got what you fucking wanted. You've been fucking nagging me non fucking stop. Tommy, you said you're going to tell us about Trump. Tommy, you tell us you're going to unearth some shit about Trump, what you said about Trump, why you don't like Trump. You got it? Ok. It's not the whole podcast, it's not the whole fucking theory, but I gave you about 10% of it, which will sound like 100% of it, but there's 90% more on the back end of the podcast. So the last hour, hour and a half is all my reason why I am off the fucking Trump train and think that he is possibly more than possibly working for the other side. Ok? So you got it. It's here. Leave me the fuck alone. You'll get the rest when I'm ready to give it to you. But there it is. We also went into Joe Rogan, inflation, Bill Pelosi, Alex Jones trial, Hillary's swag and her fucking merch line. David Hogan, his freemason pin. Uncle Danny had a dynamite drop in phone call to him now that he's ultra maga again. Movie symbolism. We went fucking wild. Two and a half hours of straight fucking chaos and murder. You're going to fucking love it. And of course, the second we finish recording the podcast, a fucking article breaks that reads an informant told the FBI what documents former President Trump was hiding and where they were, to which Bill Rupp wrote to me. Wow, there you go. Because I believe that is a mic drop moment for me. Once you hear my Trump theory where I said he set this raid up. This is all fucking him. This is all premeditated. I'm not going to spoil it, but that fucking news drop came right after we finished recording, so I'm adding it into the front. I think he did that. I think he. Who the fuck else would know where everything is in his house? Unless it's him or one of his people. You'll see. I don't want to spoil it, so I'm going to shut the fuck up. Get over to 4Deep Bets.com number 4Deep Bets.com. now, football season is right around the corner. We are popping, we are firing. We have an early bird promotion out for the rest of the year. And it's $27 for seven days to come Hang out with me and Bill and talk some shit, talk some sports, talk some conspiracy, whatever you want to talk about. That's it. I'm done. Get ready. Buckle up. The fires dropped. Second half of the podcast. Do not miss it. That's your trump. Shit. Turn it off. Halfway through. Without further ado, hit it, Miyagi. Mercy is for the weak. We do not train to be merciful here. A man face you, he is enemy. Enemy deserve no mercy.

[Bill Rupp]

What up?

[Tommy G]

Let's get weird. It's your boy Tommy G here with episode 78 of the no Mercy podcast. It's been a minute from this whole team being together. I'm getting online saying I'm not recording. We have no mercy. Plus I did four of those. I did a live show with Tripoli. We all did the false flag draft. Bobby is back with us. We are excited. I almost got a lot of false flag draft points the other day. I think there was a manipulation by him. So we're going to go to Bobby first and I want to find out how you just fucked me on a free point in the false flag draft after we introduced both of you.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, I taught. I said last episode that if you aren't favored at least like minus 130, that this is insane because you'll find a way to stretch points any way you can.

[Tommy G]

Of course. But you almost got raped.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yes, I did. No, I didn't.

[Tommy G]

Okay, we'll get into that in a second.

[Bob's Lessons]

We'll get into that.

[Tommy G]

That's where I'm getting on points right there. Let me introduce the biggest Neanderthal of the crew, who got a standing ovation when we did the live performance. You guys should make sure to listen to that. And the false flag draft. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Rapp. Let's go. That's it, huh?

[Bob's Lessons]

That's it.

[Bill Rupp]

So you get.

[Bob's Lessons]

You're so much better than Danny's.

[Bill Rupp]

I have a lot to say about this Bobby getting raped thing since Kurt.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Bill Rupp]

Calls me the raper. The rapee.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I don't even know where that did you do you know what happened there, Bob?

[Bob's Lessons]

What?

[Tommy G]

So on no mercy plus, Bill filled in for Danny one time, like a month And a half ago. And Bill. Bill's just talking normal. And Kurt goes, bill, you're the foremost expert on rape. I don't know where what. So I start dying laughing, obviously, which just accentuates it.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, from which end of the rape as the. The arbiter of rape or the victim?

[Tommy G]

I see him more as a victim, Bill.

[Bill Rupp]

Listen, I have never been raped, nor would I ever rape anyone.

[Bob's Lessons]

Let's just get that clear.

[Tommy G]

Notice which one he said first, though? Bob made sure to lead with that. He's never been raped. So then. So then Bill comes in to fill in for Danny again this week on no Mercy plus. And he. Bill wants an intro song. And I keep telling him, you got to make your own fucking intro song like no one makes.

[Bill Rupp]

I'm working on it.

[Tommy G]

Right. And Bill thought Kurt had one for him. And he plays Rape Me by Nirvana. Yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

That'S. That's a good song.

[Tommy G]

So I don't know what's going on, Kurt. I mean, it's. Who knows? So, Bill, I don't know. How do you feel about that?

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, listen, I don't know where.

[Bob's Lessons]

Kurt got that, but I would say the Internet.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. I mean, listen, Bill hasn't left his house since like 1947. I don't know who the fuck he's raping. I could see him getting raped in a truck stop, but. Yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, based on the way society is going, you'll be able to virtually rape somebody very soon.

[Tommy G]

Yes. In the metaverse. And Bill, hopefully we'll get points for that.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yes.

[Tommy G]

False flag draft.

[Bob's Lessons]

He might rape me in a video game transaction over the Internet. Who knows?

[Bill Rupp]

Listen, I'm giving Tommy full points for Bobby rape.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I got to at least get a partial point on this. So for those of you, we're going to. We're break this down, then we're going to get to fire. I mean, we got a lot of shit. We got fucking a ton of stuff going on in the news right now. Inflation, Bill, monkeypox, David Hogg's back in the news, Trump Hillary's merch, Alex Jones. I mean, there's enough shit to talk about for days here, but we'll obviously start off annoying the shit out of you with nonsense. And I drafted. We drafted each other in the. In the draft, you had to draft a staff member. And my draft was Bobby. And I said, bobby's going to get raped by a video game pedo. Or someone making a video game transaction. And then I get a text the other day saying, I almost got points, but you changed the venue you were going to, therefore thwarting my points.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, I mean, I do have. I should have control over getting raped, right? That's fair.

[Tommy G]

No, not. Not for the game.

[Bob's Lessons]

Oh, so I should just go into. I mean, listen, whatever, you know, just throw myself into the fire?

[Tommy G]

Yeah, if that's where the transaction.

[Bob's Lessons]

Let me be clear. It wasn't that I almost got raped. It's that if there was a chance for. To get raped, this would have been the instance had the person been a rapist. But this person was very nice and a fan of the show, so it all worked out. But it's the first time in which the worlds of podcasting and video game sales have collided in person. So what I said was, if there's a chance for some fanboy or fan girl to rape a. You know, obviously, I am a huge celebrity in the online past.

[Tommy G]

Know nowhere. No, no, no, no, no.

[Bob's Lessons]

So do you think there would have been a much better chance of you getting raped?

[Tommy G]

I'm stronger than you, so no.

[Bob's Lessons]

So the. The whole thing was a fan of the show since 2020, wanted to purchase some video games. Messaged me, said that they lived in. In the Memphis area. So, you know, she wanted to meet and buy some video games, and I decided on a public place just to avoid any necessary ceremony. Rape. Yeah. Which is fair, I think.

[Tommy G]

I don't think it's. That's not fair to me.

[Bob's Lessons]

And she turned out to be very sweet. She loves you, Tommy. She said that you changed her life with the Wayfarer thread. So we'll throw that out there. So that'll kind of totally have sex.

[Tommy G]

Send her a dick pic.

[Bob's Lessons]

Exactly. So that. That'll throw you off the scent of rape right away.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, now I'm. Yeah, now I'm. Now I'm all in. She's amazing, and I want to have sex with her.

[Bob's Lessons]

Oh, she is great. So she came to our. We have a little retro gaming night. She came there and played some video games, and we had a good time.

[Tommy G]

Well, I was really hoping you would get raped, so I really want you to do more public video game purchases. And Bill seems to think you've already been raped multiple times.

[Bill Rupp]

There's no shot that this hasn't happened. I sold. I sold four things on Facebook, Marketplace. One, a guy said he. I ripped him off. The product didn't work. Another one took me to court.

[Bob's Lessons]

I mean, maybe this is your fault.

[Tommy G]

This might be a Bill problem.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah. Another one, the guy didn't show up. I mean, there are weirdos upon weirdos.

[Tommy G]

The first one that you post, I.

[Bob's Lessons]

Have a friend who just finds himself in areas where he gets punched in the face. He invites getting punched in the face with his mouth. So I think you're more of a rape invitee than I am. I think you invite rape with whatever product you're selling, whatever part of the town you're going to. You need to be careful with your sales tactic. That's.

[Tommy G]

I mean, the first one, you were selling like a drill, weren't you, Bill? And the guy was like, the guy. We talked about it on the podcast. The guy was like fucking cursing you off and calling you a cunt.

[Bill Rupp]

He's calling me a. It's all types of names.

[Tommy G]

Calling you a fag, calling you a.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah, so, bro, there's not a shot in hell. The amount of the volume that Bobby's doing is definitely happened.

[Tommy G]

And he's doing it in Tennessee. And we know people like our cousins.

[Bill Rupp]

And that's like the capital of, like, weirdos and creepy creepers.

[Tommy G]

Here's my favorite thing right now. Ready, Bob? Bill, how many times have you been to Tennessee?

[Bill Rupp]

Zero. Well, but anybody who choose to live, chooses to live in the middle of the country. I mean, you're insane. Who wouldn't want to?

[Tommy G]

Really?

[Bob's Lessons]

You're such a cuck. I mean, this is like. So you're saying it's flyover country. That's what all the liberals say.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah, it's like, who wouldn't want to live on a coast? That's what I understand. Just move.

[Bob's Lessons]

People that don't want to live by water or hurricanes.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, that's strange.

[Tommy G]

Or liberals. Liberals. I mean, listen, literally the middle of the country is all the Republicans.

[Bill Rupp]

I feel Bobby will never tell the truth. I'm giving Tommy a point.

[Tommy G]

Let's go.

[Bill Rupp]

You're giving.

[Tommy G]

I'll take it. I'm getting rape points. Monkeypox points. Oh, this is great.

[Bob's Lessons]

I get raped. I will tell you.

[Tommy G]

You better.

[Bob's Lessons]

Scouts honor.

[Tommy G]

I will.

[Bob's Lessons]

If I get raped, you will be the first person I text, like, right after. I'll be like, tommy, I just got raped.

[Tommy G]

I don't know if he will. I don't.

[Bill Rupp]

I'm telling you, he won't.

[Tommy G]

I don't. I wouldn't.

[Bill Rupp]

No, I wouldn't either.

[Tommy G]

I don't know, man.

[Bob's Lessons]

Do you need, like, pics or it didn't happen type thing or you just.

[Tommy G]

I mean, we might just need to go pro you for all your transactions going forward and just live stream it and just.

[Bob's Lessons]

See, here's my question. If I Do get raped live on a GoPro.

[Bill Rupp]

How.

[Bob's Lessons]

What percentage of you would be happy in fist bumping?

[Tommy G]

I mean, I could say 67 of this podcast right now. Two out of three, definitely me and Bill, that's for damn sure. But okay, outside of Bobby's rape, anything else you guys wanted to chat about before we build? Did you have anything that you. That you need to get out before we get into the good stuff?

[Bill Rupp]

No, not really. I mean, the, the, my shows are on vacation. You know, no View this week. They're off for, you know, like a little while. We got two new co hosts on the View.

[Tommy G]

I mean, that is one of those is topical, actually. They just added. What's that name? The one that turned on Trump?

[Bill Rupp]

Alyssa Farah Griffin.

[Tommy G]

Do you know who she is?

[Bob's Lessons]

I have no idea who that is.

[Tommy G]

I mean, Google, you'll probably know.

[Bob's Lessons]

She was one of those three name girls from the 90s that was really hot one time.

[Bill Rupp]

Oh, no, no, she's younger than that.

[Tommy G]

But she.

[Bill Rupp]

Yes, she worked for Trump and then like now she's like, she goes against everything Trump says.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, she, I think she wasn't still Republican, though.

[Bill Rupp]

She's still Republican.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, of course.

[Bob's Lessons]

Conservative.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, she's. She's a Republican.

[Bob's Lessons]

She's a McCanian.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, sure, she is.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. But so anyway, she works for Trump. She's on the View now. So now the View thinks that they're like, they're, they're fair.

[Bob's Lessons]

Oh, they're balanced.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. Bill's like, she's fair and balanced because she's a Republican. Okay, got it. Yeah. Okay, we'll see about that. But yeah, Bill's missing his. Drew's News. He's missing his View, so he's probably not going to be up to date on anything that's going on in the world right now because all his band of Mary retards are not available. So, I mean, I don't even know where to start here. I guess we start. We're going to get into Trump. We're going to get into. Did you see Hillary dropped a merch line? Did you see this?

[Bob's Lessons]

I love it. Is it anything like Celine Dion's merch line?

[Tommy G]

No, it literally is about her emails.

[Bob's Lessons]

Shut up, dude.

[Tommy G]

I sent it. Do you even read my text?

[Bob's Lessons]

No, no. Is it in the thread or it just means go to.

[Tommy G]

Just here, let me show you how. How aggressive she's working. Go to Hillary Clinton's Twitter.

[Bob's Lessons]

Okay.

[Tommy G]

And see every but her emails. It's a hat that says but her emails. Hat or shirt helps. Onward Together, partners defend a democracy. She's actually selling. But her emails merchant, she dropped it.

[Bill Rupp]

Right after the search of Trump. Right.

[Tommy G]

Well, yeah. So this. This all ties together because.

[Bob's Lessons]

Wait, why is this, like, a catfish picture? It looks like.

[Tommy G]

I mean, dude, it's like her 20s, 90s. Yeah. I mean, what is even going on? Like, what is this broken simulation that we are living in right now? It's just completely. Speaking of broken simulation, Sam Tripoli was on Joe Rogan recently. So after, like, 10 years of not being on Rogan. So I'm sure he'll have the whole conspiracy community going after.

[Bob's Lessons]

He probably heard our podcast and saw my draft pick. He was like.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I thought. I think it. I would. I happened to be on stage with Tripoli like, seven days before he went on Rogan. So, I mean, I. I gotta think that, you know, Rogan went, oh, that you're next.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I think it was more like, wow, like, Sam's made it.

[Bob's Lessons]

Oh, okay.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. Like, I mean, if Tommy G is like, wow, I gotta get him on now while he's hot, you know?

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah. Yeah. How many times have you and Joe Rogan spoke?

[Tommy G]

I mean, we don't. You know, like, it's. It's. You know, it's kind of like Jeter and a Rod. Oh.

[Bob's Lessons]

You know, like, it's just same team, but. Or like. Like Rodman Jordan.

[Tommy G]

Little rivalry there, you know, one and two in the world.

[Bill Rupp]

To all you podcast people.

[Tommy G]

You're one of them now, Bill.

[Bob's Lessons]

I mean, like, what are you.

[Tommy G]

You realize you did, like, three podcasts in the last, like, two weeks?

[Bob's Lessons]

No.

[Tommy G]

No.

[Bill Rupp]

So do all you podcast people, like, hold Rogan at the top? Like, that's the pinnacle.

[Bob's Lessons]

I mean, he's like the. He's basically the. The Elvis, Beatles, you know, whatever, of. Of podcasting. Because not only is he the most popular, but he was one of the first. Not the first, but one of the earliest podcasters. He was.

[Bill Rupp]

You guys gotta have some type of theory. You probably talked about it before.

[Tommy G]

Well, so. So it's.

[Bill Rupp]

It's like he was like. I remember him as the fear Factor idiot.

[Tommy G]

Right.

[Bill Rupp]

You know, so, like, what happened, by.

[Bob's Lessons]

The way, Can I say this? I've never seen a show where the host looks like he doesn't want to be there more than Joe Rogan.

[Bill Rupp]

100%.

[Tommy G]

I.

[Bill Rupp]

Checked out.

[Tommy G]

I mean, if you were getting. And that's kind of been my theory, I guess we'll start with Rogan, of course, which wasn't even on the show plan. So we're right back where we started. Let's go. So, yes, Bill Rogan was first or in the first wave. Right. Like, podcasting was around. Yeah. Tom Green and all these other people doing little things from their house.

[Bob's Lessons]

I'm glad you said Tom Green because that's really where Tom Green was.

[Tommy G]

He the number who was the first who gets. I thought Tom Green.

[Bob's Lessons]

Tom Green. Joe Rogan went on Tom Green and said, huh? So you're just doing this from your house and, like, you know, just asking questions. You could tell, like, his, you know, synapses started firing. But Tom Green was like, the first person that, like, you know, really did like the home recording and, you know, and Andy Milanakis was another big one. But Joe Rogan went on, Bobby, what's up?

[Bill Rupp]

What happened to him? I remember him.

[Bob's Lessons]

Andy Milonakis.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

He still does a lot of stuff, but, you know, it's on like, you know, web forums and stuff. You know, he does a lot of live streaming. I think he lives in. Either lives in Japan or spends a lot of time in Japan, but he's, he still has a large following on, like, Twitch and like that. But yeah, he's still, he's still around. But yeah, Rogan, Tom Green is the real pillar as well as the dude. I always forget his name. The guy who was on, like, Love talk with the Dr. Drew guy. What was his name?

[Tommy G]

Oh, oh, I know what you're talking about. It was on, he was, he was.

[Bob's Lessons]

On the man show too.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. Adam. Adam.

[Bob's Lessons]

Adam Corolla.

[Tommy G]

Yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

Adam Corolla is kind of like a godfather of podcasts.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, he is. Definitely. Definitely.

[Bob's Lessons]

But Joe Rogan not only is a godfather, but also just so happens to be one of the most popular as well. But I, I, he, I think he grew organically. I really do.

[Bill Rupp]

I always had a theory real fast, Tommy, about. He seems to, like, start everything, but never gets recognition.

[Tommy G]

Right. If there's someone who's, who fits the profile of.

[Bill Rupp]

Definitely not Tommy, because Tommy takes.

[Tommy G]

Oh, no, I'm. I'm the guy who takes it and runs with it.

[Bob's Lessons]

I'm Adam Corolla and Tommy's the Joe Rogan. That's exactly right.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm down. I'll take that title all day. The. So the funny thing with Corolla is, if I had to guess, I would guess he didn't make any sacrifices and is not in the cabal, even though he's done a lot of big things.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, I think, like, Bill, just very blue collar.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. And he's never, like, become like the guy, you know, he's always just a guy, you know, in the mix of everything, similar to a lot of the comedians who've been passing away the norm, McDonald's and a lot of these guys who kind of changed comedy and changed things and really never became that super megastar because they wouldn't conform. But, yes, to answer your question, Bill Rogan was one of the first. He definitely did it the best. Had the most business foresight with it all and the most access to high level talent and things like that and guests to bring on the show. But there is a lot of conspiracy theories with Roganville. There's a million.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, I can only imagine because he came off of Fear Factor, which was, you know, an okay show. I mean, a lot of people watched it, but, like, to. For the level he's at now and from what he used to be is insane.

[Tommy G]

But me and Bobby have talked about this. I don't know if we talked about it on here, but we have mentioned that Rogan, I think if you basically go down the rabbit hole and tie it together, also knowing, like, a lot of people in the UFC world, you know, Constantino and all these guys who knew him back then, before he was big, he kind of just got a little lucky and caught the. The UFC was nothing when Roga started hosting.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right.

[Tommy G]

So it's not like he. He got placed into this role like it was nothing. He just grew with it. And the same thing with podcasting. When he started podcasting, it was nothing.

[Bob's Lessons]

Go watch the first episode of the Joe Rogan podcast where they're trying to figure out how to do it. It's like him and Brian Redband and it's like, it looks like, like old MySpace style.

[Tommy G]

It's like so low budget. So when people are like, you can't get to that position. You guys are the ones who say you can't get that big without selling your soul and doing all that. Yeah, you're right. If you're placed there as a recording artist in 2022. But if you started the. He got bigger than the cabal, bigger than media. He became media. Right, Right. So I don't, I don't like. I think me and Bobby are on the same page, Bill, with Rogan, as far as. Has he sold out a bit? Of course. I mean, everyone does. When you get that, is Rogan evil and is Rogan part of the cabal? I don't think so at all. Like, I don't think at all.

[Bob's Lessons]

No.

[Tommy G]

And everyone judges you by what guests you have on your show. That's unfair. That's like judging me and Bobby's perspective on things by what followers of ours say on our threads on Twitter.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right?

[Tommy G]

Like, no, you're going to bring in whoever the fuck you want. Some people are good, some people are bad. And, you know, just because you had them on your show doesn't mean you're fucking, you know, part of the cabal. But we'll talk about Alex Jones, which we should probably lead right into. But Bob, what's your take on.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, I mean, it segues into Alex Jones because, you know, Rogan and Alex Jones have been friends for two decades. You know, I mean, like a long time. They've known each other for a while and even Joe moved to Texas. He's closer to, to Alex now. So, I mean, you know, they've known each other for a while. But, you know, like I was saying, and you were saying earlier that, that his movements have, have grown organically and let's be realistic, he's an extremely talented thinker and interviewer. I would say the, the thing he's least strong at is stand up comedy. You know, I mean, it's okay, but like, as far as his skill set, he's a good.

[Tommy G]

And he's never gotten that big in stand up.

[Bob's Lessons]

Not really.

[Tommy G]

He's, he's the comedy thing. He's only big because he's the Joe Rogan podcaster, correct?

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, correct. But on the other hand, you know, you know, he's been a fan of comedy. He's been around it for a long time, and he's helped grow a lot of people's careers and he's been responsible for the, the recent influx of, of comedians and the popularity of it. So, you know, I. The other thing about it is he's very willing to be like a gatekeeper in a good way. There's, I think there's bad gatekeepers and good way good ones. And I think he's, he likes propping up his friends, some of which suck ass at their job, but he still props them up. But no, I don't see it, man. I just, I don't see any of the signs of it. But I look at it like this. Like, you know, a lot of people are fans of Metallica. They released the Black Album, which was completely different than their older shit, and they transferred to a different style and kind of, you know, they molded and some people said they sold out some of the hardcore fans, but they went in a different direction and they increased their popularity and now they've had a billion streams on Spotify. So, you know, Joe Rogan switches to Spotify. You know, he increases his reach, and maybe he waters down his content a little.

[Tommy G]

Well, he was watering it down prior to that, too. Like, I mean, that's the whole. There's a difference. And this is where the idiots in the community are dangerous because they know a little bit, right? So, like, when. Remember when Iaconic made the picture of me? Like, he. When. When he wasn't even hired yet. He wasn't even our graphic designer, and he made a picture of me, like, kind of coming out of a flag, and one of my eyes was kind of shaded darker because I was kind of, like, peeking out of the flag, and I posted it. I was like, oh, cool. And everyone's like, oh, you're a shill. You have the one eye, the Illuminati one. And it's like, okay, timeout. Like, I'm all for the symbolism of people who are in the cabal, right? Like, so if Tom Hanks. If these people who know exactly what the symbolism is and they're a part of that group are doing it, they're obviously doing it on purpose. But if Bill's holding his hands in like a triangle by his waist, I don't think he's part of the cabal. And that's. That's part of the problem with this movement. It's like, well, Joe started staying away from conspiracy talk and started bringing on, you know, all these people and watering everything down. Maybe he just got sick. He looks.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, maybe he got tired of it.

[Tommy G]

Maybe he got sick of the heat and sick of the drama. And maybe someone did come to him and fucking threaten him. Who the fuck knows? But that doesn't make him evil, because I haven't seen him push a fucking agenda yet outside of eat meat and stay away from processed foods and all the. That Covid's. Like, I've only seen him put. I haven't. If maybe one day he does, he'll turn and, you know, come around and start pushing the NWO agenda. But I haven't seen it outside of him saying, you know, I'd vote for Bernie Sanders.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, I know he was a Ron Paul guy, too, but that's huge. Yeah, it. It's just. It just goes to. And this is why, like, I don't really pay attention too much when people send me, oh, look at the symbolism here. That. Because you have to look at sample size, too. You know, I mean, you can really find anybody in a. In a single picture Doing anything and say that it's symbolism. But, you know, if you have an entire Instagram account with pictures of children's socks and random gloves on the ground like that, like Tom Hanks had, that's a different story. And caps with Cappy with the highways and, you know, like.

[Tommy G]

Or if you're putting your. Put in an okay sign over your eye on a Vogue cover, you know, exactly. Blatant. Like, I need this here.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah. If your album cover has that shit on it, like, look at the. You know, like, the last Eminem fucking album, right?

[Tommy G]

I mean, Jesus Christ.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah. If you call your company Roc Nation, like the Rockefellers, and you have all the, you know, like, what's his name Shit. Jay Z, you know, I mean, this is the kind of stuff that over a span of time, you can see whether or not they're part of the cabal. But one isolated incident of eye cover, Heck, there's probably pictures of me doing the devil horns rock and roll sign somewhere on Facebook.

[Tommy G]

Pictures of all of us doing the devil horns from concerts back when we were younger, right, Bill?

[Bill Rupp]

100%.

[Tommy G]

I mean, 100%. I used to listen to Metallica. We'd throw up the devil. And that's the whole thing. It's. People take this too far. So with Rogan, I think it's just. And again, I could be wrong. I don't know. But in my opinion, he's just. I think he's fucking. If he had his choice and he wasn't getting so much money for this, I think he would go live in the woods. Like, I think he would. I think he would go grab his friends, go make a little wooden mansion in the fucking woods and just fucking bug out and do fucking acid out there.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, I think he could do. I think he could do a survivalist, and he's got enough buddies that could help him. But here's the other thing. He did a show about conspiracies where, like, he went around and, like, talked to different people that claim different conspiracies. And he. What he learned through that process is that a lot of these people, when you really question them hard and break them down, there's holes in a lot of their arguments which made them come down a little bit off of some of his theories, which is fine. I mean, all it is, is test it, you know, using the scientific method to see if shit's right or wrong. And, you know, the one thing I don't like is, you know, he closes himself off, and people do. Everybody does get it to Tripoli what.

[Tommy G]

He did, he did Tripoli, started talking about Project High Jump and started getting into it like, you could see trim. Lee was about to go. Yeah. And he kind of stepped on him. Like, I know just because I know Sam so well and I know, I listen to Rogan, that he was like, oh, oh, really? Really? You know, and then the second Sam started to get into it, he kind of stomped it and went to talk about, like, bugs and food. Like, he didn't.

[Bob's Lessons]

Let him think about it, though. As a host. You're a host. Right.

[Tommy G]

And that doesn't mean he's in and that's cut you off. That doesn't mean he's in the cabal. That just means he doesn't want that. He doesn't want that to be his brand. And Spotify probably said, we don't want you going deep on lizard people and shit.

[Bob's Lessons]

Okay?

[Tommy G]

So that's what that can. I don't think that meant that he was trying to hide information from society.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right. Not to compare. Not to compare Sam Tripley to Uncle Danny. But I'm going to. For the reference of this. So how many times on no Mercy plus is Danny caught onto a tangent about something and you, as the host, have to pivot it to something else, like a mat. You know what I'm saying? So, like, maybe he doesn't want to talk about High Jump because that's not the rabbit wanted to.

[Tommy G]

He did not. Yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

As a host, it's your job to navigate the direction of the conversation.

[Tommy G]

And as. And as the guest, it's your job to force it into. But when it's Joe Rogan, like, if I wanted to talk about Tom Hanks, I went in there going, I'm getting on Rogan. This is my chance to expose the eyes of Cappy and. And say my story to the world. And if he kept stopping it like, it's Joe Rogan, how far am I gonna re. I might push it once, and then when he stomps it the second time, I'm not gonna push it again.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

Because it's Joe Rogan. If it's fucking Bill Rupp or Bob's lessons. Yeah. I'm gonna force my way in and get it done.

[Bob's Lessons]

And I guarantee you that Joe Rogan brought Sam on not with, like, a caveat, but, like, kind of realizing that he's gonna have to, you know, at some point, you know, steer away from certain topics. Right.

[Tommy G]

Yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

Just like with Eddie Bravo, man. I don't know when the last time he had Eddie Bravo on was, but, you know, that's another thing. I don't know where I think Eddie Bravo checked out or something, but I haven't heard from him much. But, yeah, you know, you go ahead.

[Bill Rupp]

I was just looking up on online and approves my Adam Carolla thing. He said I was looking up podcasting. It says fast forward a few years from when it was evented. Adam Carolla becomes the Guinness World record holder for most downloaded podcast.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tommy G]

It was monstrous.

[Bill Rupp]

Monstrous.

[Tommy G]

Kurt's favorite, actually. Kurt. Kurt is the one who turned me on the podcasting through Adam Carolla and.

[Bill Rupp]

Gets no credit for anything. Nothing so insane.

[Bob's Lessons]

None.

[Tommy G]

He's like Bobby with talent.

[Bob's Lessons]

That's so good, dude. That's so funny.

[Tommy G]

Bravo.

[Bob's Lessons]

Oh, yeah. With Bravo, you know, it's the same thing. You know, like when he had to have any Bravo on a lot of times, Eddie would go down rabbit holes and Joe would kind of check him being like, all right, I don't. You know, you gotta let it go a certain way. But there's. There's a term, you know, you know, this about giving up the microphone. You never totally hand over the microphone. Yeah.

[Tommy G]

Guess who's the king of that?

[Bob's Lessons]

Who?

[Tommy G]

Joe Rogan. When he white knuckles the microphone in a UFC ring as UFC fighters are trying to grab the micro. He's never given. He's only done it once to the girl wanted to speak about Ukraine. He. That's his thing. He's a control freak with the mic.

[Bob's Lessons]

Did he give it up to Diaz that one time?

[Tommy G]

He gave it up? No, I thought. I think the first time I remember seeing it was the girl who was from Ukraine or whatever and crying about her family. And he left.

[Bob's Lessons]

Okay.

[Tommy G]

Which again, everyone's like, oh, what a move. Like, listen, when you're that famous, you. You're done. Like, I think Rogan's done. He doesn't. You know why he brings Jones on and everything? Because no one takes Alex Jones seriously, and I think it's fine. And he's allowed to bring Alex Jones on because he's friends with him. And Alex Jones has destroyed his credibility and the. The cabal and the government has destroyed Alex Jones's credibility with all the clips and everything they've done to him that I think he was just like, fuck it. Yeah, I'll bring fucking Alex Jones on. No one fucking cares.

[Bill Rupp]

That's a great segue right there. Wow.

[Tommy G]

Right? You like that?

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, now I would. I was floored. I was beautiful.

[Tommy G]

Ah, so what? Well, let's. Let's jump right to Bill now. Bill, what do you Think of Alex Jones. He just had his big trial. Right. Friend of Rogan's been all over, everywhere, I think, you know, obviously, he's done a lot more stuff than what people think. He's been on a lot of even smaller podcasts. We could probably get Alex Jones on here. Realistically.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, sure.

[Tommy G]

Pushed it. Definitely.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, he'd do it.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. But the. Are you being sarcastic?

[Bob's Lessons]

No, no, no.

[Tommy G]

He'd literally, like. We could definitely get him on. I thought about it.

[Bob's Lessons]

I tell you what, I will get. I. I will give you 10 points towards the league if you get Alex Jones on.

[Tommy G]

Okay, cool. After this trial, I don't know if. Is it good to get Alex Jones?

[Bob's Lessons]

Of course it is.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. I mean, what, are you gonna cancel him? No, no, I, I. Dude, listen, I've made my case on Alex Jones. It's never gonna waver. But, But, Bill, what is your take as so, because me and Bobby, again, are going to align here, because Alex Jones has been around since before me and Bobby even knew what a conspiracy was. Right. So we have a different tie to him. But when you as a regular person. Here's Alex Jones. What do you think?

[Bill Rupp]

So, no, I've seen, like, his stupid things that he does, like, all this crazy stuff. And then when the trial came up the other day, and when I was watching it online and they were talking about it on tv, it was just. The whole thing looked kind of fake to me. The trial, actually, because it was in, like, a weird little small courtroom. Like, I don't. It just looked fake.

[Tommy G]

It was weird.

[Bill Rupp]

And then I told you that I didn't really like how what he did. Like, I don't like when you're saying that children. It was all fake and everything like that. Yeah, I don't, I don't like that. And then he was calling the mom who sued him an actress and everything like that, you know, and like I said, I don't think that that was fake. You say, you know, they had crisis actors, blah, blah, blah. But you also said real, real people died right in that.

[Tommy G]

And my, my whole, let's go home run, Milwaukee. Sorry. Not relevant to the podcast, but relevant to me and Bill. I literally have had the same stance. I don't know where I want to go, if I want to go to me and Bobby stance or if I want to tie up the trial. So on Sandy Hook, Bill, my whole take on it. And me and Bill have talked about this, Bob. You know, Bill doesn't even want to get into the conspiracy theories involving school shootings. 9 11, any of that. When people die. Bill doesn't want to talk about it. Right. Which is. Which is respectable. That's fine. I have no problem with.

[Bob's Lessons]

So he Rogans those topics.

[Tommy G]

Yes. Very hard. Right. Meanwhile, he'll go into lizard people for hours with me. Right.

[Bob's Lessons]

But because lizard people caused 911.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I think they did. George Bush, it's a lizard person. But so, Bill. So my whole thing. And here's my stance on Sandy Hook. We might as well get that out. That. Yes, there was crisis actors. Yes, I think there was killbots sent into Sandy Hook. Yes, it was a false flag. David Hogue, all of it. Another tie in to what we're going to talk about now. Bobby, did you see the David Hogue thing I sent you?

[Bob's Lessons]

What, the Freemason.

[Tommy G]

Freemason clip?

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tommy G]

I mean, come on. We're gonna get to that in a minute. But Broward. But I also believe. And this is where the conspiracy theorist nut jobs and Alex Jones and all them lose me a little bit. And this is why I try to stay, like, in the middle a little, but I still believe real people died. Like, that's the thing. You can't just say it was all fake and everyone was an actor. No, real people died. There could be a Killbot shooter that was programmed. There could be parents who were suffering. And there could also be crisis actors, just like in Uvalde, just like in 9 11. Like. But real people still died. And you can't pretend real people didn't die in these situations. And that's. That's where I stand. I don't know where you stand on Sandy Hook.

[Bob's Lessons]

I just. I don't know. I know somebody that's from that town, and I didn't even approach him because he was working at buzzfeed and had his own. He was covering everything about it. So it was. I didn't even ask him if he knew anybody that died personally. If he knew somebody personally that died, then fine. So if anybody has evidence that somebody they knew personally, fine, whatever. I just, I know just almost.

[Tommy G]

If you want to get. Were involved 100, 100%. Not even a question. Right? And that's enough.

[Bob's Lessons]

Like, listen, for me, my biggest thing was. Was for me and you to say.

[Tommy G]

No one died is. Is stupid for us because we don't know that for a fact. We know for a fact shenanigans were involved.

[Bob's Lessons]

That's all you. That's. That's the number one thing about false flags is that, you know, whatever is being presented is a False illustration of what really happened. That's all it is.

[Tommy G]

Yes.

[Bill Rupp]

So I will say. I will say. I don't know if it's changing my mind or just believing in it. You do. I do believe that there are kill bots, like you said.

[Tommy G]

Right. Like Stranger Things. Programmed mkl.

[Bill Rupp]

Because, well, I mean, look at Stranger Things, my favorite show now.

[Tommy G]

I mean, you're obsessed. You're obsessed with it.

[Bill Rupp]

Love it. But, yeah. The New York City thing had me 100% when a guy woke up out.

[Tommy G]

Of nowhere and ratted himself out. Yeah.

[Bill Rupp]

In the New York City subway shooting acts. I was all over that from the minute it started.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, you told me about it. Yeah. And.

[Bill Rupp]

And when the next day, he caught. I think I'm the one you're looking for. I've seen my picture all over television. I'm at the McDonald's.

[Tommy G]

What, it reminds you of 11 from Stranger Things? When she's looking, going, did I do all this?

[Bill Rupp]

He didn't leave the one block radius.

[Tommy G]

Get a cheeseburger.

[Bill Rupp]

They're searching the country for this guy, and he's right there. He didn't even know what happened.

[Tommy G]

Yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

And then you go back in history and you see the same theme with all these events.

[Bill Rupp]

Tell me, we haven't heard anything about him.

[Tommy G]

No, he was gone the next day because they needed to cover the. The. The inflation. Not inflation. The interest rate hike. That's what they needed to cover. And the Attorney General.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah, the guy who got arrested.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it happened in Adam City.

[Bill Rupp]

I do believe that that happened. I will go with you on that.

[Tommy G]

And you also, like, so if you look at Uvalde, right, The shooting in Texas, you'd have to be a moron, right? Like, everyone in the country will say, how the fuck did the back door get unlocked? How the fuck did they have a shot at this kid running in with a gun and didn't shoot him? How the fuck did they wait 77 minutes to go into the door? How the fuck did that. How the fuck. How the fuck. How the fuck. And if there's enough. How the. Then it's not crazy for us to think, okay, someone was in on this. Right? And that's. And that's really what most of this comes down to. The problem is in Alex Jones will go out like, you don't even know they did this. And this. Everything was fake. And this is awful. Like, all right. Like, that's crazy. So when.

[Bill Rupp]

That's where he loses me.

[Tommy G]

Like. But I mean, I think that's. And. And Bob I want your take on this because when you looked at the trial, right, Alex Jones is in the trial and he's saying. What did he say, Bill? You know it better than me. I didn't even follow fucking half of it.

[Bill Rupp]

Well, he. He admitted that he was right. He lied about everything first.

[Tommy G]

Right? I have mental problems and I lied about everything. And it was. But I mean, you're going to say that in court if it's going to help you pay less millions, which is also true.

[Bill Rupp]

I agree with you there.

[Tommy G]

Right? So, I mean, I don't take anything he said in court. His fucking. Bob, did you even follow the Alex Jones thing closely?

[Bob's Lessons]

I followed it enough. Not.

[Tommy G]

We're like, whatever, dude.

[Bob's Lessons]

I mean, what's. What's gonna happen? I mean, like, what's really gonna happen at the end of this? You know, we got a couple clips just like in the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial.

[Tommy G]

You know, he's gonna go back to his show and. And everyone's like, well, is Alex Jones a psyop? Is he bad? Is he good? Is it who? He's so irrelevant now. Yeah, like, that's my whole point to everyone. Everyone. Tell me, want your take? Tell me what your take. I don't have one because I don't care. Alex Jones was useful to me, and I hate to put it this way, but I look at Alex Jones the same way I look at Trump. Alex Jones was useful to me in my evolution to where I look at the world now, not to be on a podcast or anything, is me and Bobby used to talk about this shit long before no mercy on my waking up to the world and to 9, 11 and to space even and all this other stuff. Like he was very critical in someone like me to wake up and then go do my own research to find out, wow, some of this is bullshit. Some of this is real and put me where I'm at today from now. I. There's no way he could be this popular, loud and obstructive for this long and not be dead. So, yeah, I 100% would believe that at some point Alex Jones got corrupted and Alex Jones got threatened and they play. I don't think they need to kill him and silence him because they masterfully made him into a cartoon character. Bobby, he gave them enough shit that they literally were able to make him so uncredible to a regular person that they don't need to kill Alex Jones. Like he's fucking so bizarre and he's done so many drugs like he's fucking nuts.

[Bill Rupp]

Tommy, how can anybody believe any of this is true or anything's going on when the whole part of that trial was his lawyer. His lawyer gave his phone records to the prosecution for two years. Everything he was saying, like, come on, like, inadvertently gave it to him.

[Tommy G]

Your own lawyer accidentally forwarded your whole entire two years of cell phone records to the opposition's family. And the judge on the trial is a well known, documented, Trump hating liberal who looks like a fucking actor.

[Bob's Lessons]

He looks like fucking Sarah Spain from espn, dude. Like, like that's what it looks like. Sarah Spain's judge judging over this. Crazy.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, I mean, the whole. Was a joke. The opposing lawyer looked like an actor from Saturday Night Live. His own lawyer was giving away all his. He's on stage one minute calling out the victims, the next minute saying he lied, lied about everything. Like that whole trial, that's where everyone's like, what do you think of it? I think it's. And listen, if Alex Jones says something for the last 10 years, I'm not going to listen to anything else except Alex Jones says the frogs are gay. Okay, why would he say that? And then you go research it and most of the times you find out there are chemicals in the water that actually were turning fish and frogs gay. Like so. Yeah, a lot of it is real and some of it's bullshit, Bob.

[Bob's Lessons]

But I, I still think the greatest Twitter account, if it's still up, is Alex Jones was right. If you haven't followed it, it's the best Twitter follow because it just, what it does is it shows the other side of it. All the times in which shit he said, talk about 20 fucking years ago that he predicted that's coming into fruition. It's just, it's just fucking nugget after nugget of information that, that Alex Jones warned us about that's coming true. Alex Jones was right. It's a, it's a great, great Twitter follow. But you know, just to kind of, like, just to kind of piggyback on, on what you're saying about the whole thing. Yes. I mean, you can't really. You have to take everything with what's said in court with a grain of salt, first of all. And secondly, you have to look at it like this. I have a friend that's like incapable of filtering his speech. Like it's almost like, I want to say like an autistic. He's very intelligent.

[Tommy G]

Almost like, are you talking about Bill?

[Bob's Lessons]

I mean, it could be a Bill. It's like a Bill.

[Bill Rupp]

Thank you.

[Bob's Lessons]

But like he doesn't have that. That filter where it's like, hey, man, maybe you should, like, not fucking say this, even if you know it probably is true, but, you know, could get you in trouble. But my friend will just fucking say it because it's probably true and it needs to be said. And he says it with a lot of passion. That's what. How I look at Alex Jones. Like, his IQ is through the roof. I know most of y'all memory. His memory is photographic. The last time he was on Rogan, I just use this because a lot of people have seen it with Tim Dillon. Just watch just point after point after point after point that he makes just straight off a memory. And they look it up. Because I could tell Joe Rogan wanted to do. Is, you know, do.

[Tommy G]

Tried to check him. I've seen that he tried to check him multiple times, and there was only one time where it was like, slightly off.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right?

[Tommy G]

And you can. Exactly, right. It was just like 16 instead of 18 or something like that.

[Bob's Lessons]

Even in court, he can't help himself, which was the greatest. Like, my favorite sound bit was with the prosecutor. Oh. He was like. He's like, so you're quoted as saying that the, you know, the. The elite are involved in sexual trafficking and pedophilia. And he's like, what you mean like Epstein and the Clintons? I fucking lost it, dude. Because. Because that's what. That's what he is. But the thing is like, this. Like, you can't do that.

[Tommy G]

You got to fucking say, I was wrong. Everything was correct.

[Bob's Lessons]

Correct.

[Tommy G]

100 million. I want to pay 20 million.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right? So I'm sure he ignored some of the advice of his attorneys, but this is the other way I look at it. You know, a lot of times cops are there to arrest bad people, but a lot of times they'll leave the crazy people alone that aren't really bothering anybody. Right? Like the homeless guy and the fucking, you know, park that's talking to himself that, you know, like, they know him as like, Jerry. Yeah. Bill in the park, right? You know, they're not going to arrest the guy, but they know him as Bill in the park that. That says the moon's made of cheese. Like, that's what Alex Jones is to the Cabal.

[Tommy G]

He's.

[Bob's Lessons]

He's crazy guy that says the moon's made it cheese. And. And he's actually helping them in certain ways because just like January 6th helped curb the investigation in the election. His crazy, you know, conspiracy theory, you know, quote unquote, crazy conspiracy theories about Sandy Hooker help curbing the reality. What happened to a lot of these things, you know?

[Tommy G]

And it dis. And it's discrediting. It's discrediting because the. I mean, listen, that. One of the funniest lines I ever saw. I had like a Roast Me session on Twitter back in the day, and they said, Tommy G is, you know, if. Is what would happen if Alex Jones and Pauly D had a baby, right? Like, it was great, right? But it's two things making fun of me. Like, the one side, like, you're a retarded guido from Jersey, and the other side is you're a retarded conspiracy theorist. And everything you say. So when you say conspiracy theorist, people think Alex Jones. So by the transitive property, if people think Alex Jones is uncredible and retarded, and then you call me a conspiracy theorist, you're calling me uncredible and retarded.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right?

[Tommy G]

So. So that's what I'm saying. And the other side of it Is he could 100% be a cabal asset at this point. He could 100% have all the people around. This could all be something bigger, and he could be the most evil operative we've ever seen. I just don't care anymore. So on me, it's not going to work unless you care about it. So for Alex Jones, for me, I know he wasn't back in the day, because if they were going to use him, like, I. Like I say that they may have used Trump, they're going to make him credible and respected by his base. And even our. His base thought he was batshit. So it was. I just don't care. I'm not really worried about it. He served his purpose for me in my life. He woke me up to a lot of shit, and a lot of shit we talk about, we got from Alex Jones. So I respect all that. And if he was a psyop, one of the worst ones in the history of the world, because 90% of the fucking plans that are out there we got from him. And I kind of look at him like Trump. Trump did his thing for me. I was all in on the Trump train. It helped me. Trump didn't wake me up to anything. Like, that's the difference. Like, Trump just was a Trojan horse that I felt was blowing through America and, you know, was. Was powerful. And it was a fun, powerful time until the end where now I feel he's completely corrupted and I want nothing to do with him on that level, but I don't still Admit that I was all in and respect that I respected him and thought he would change things and do all that. It's just his time's past for me, and I'm past it. I'm over him. Like him. I think he's on the other side, so. Same thing with Alex Jones. I don't care anymore.

[Bob's Lessons]

Would you vote for him?

[Tommy G]

Trump? Never.

[Bob's Lessons]

Okay.

[Tommy G]

No, I wouldn't vote. I don't think I'm voting ever again.

[Bill Rupp]

You, Bobby?

[Bob's Lessons]

I don't know. I've. I've thought about this a lot, and I think I would.

[Tommy G]

I'm never voting again. I made that. I made that decision. I don't think I'll. I don't think I'll ever vote again.

[Bill Rupp]

Come on.

[Tommy G]

I mean, maybe in, like, a local election or maybe in, like, something, but for a. For a president. I don't think I'll ever place a vote again.

[Bob's Lessons]

What about you, Bill?

[Tommy G]

I'm done.

[Bill Rupp]

I. I don't know. I guess it depends who he's running against.

[Bob's Lessons]

Okay. Name somebody on the opposition that you would vote.

[Tommy G]

Let's. Let's give him a few names. So, like, Trump versus Trump versus Biden.

[Bill Rupp]

Trump. I mean, Biden is.

[Tommy G]

How about Trump versus DeSantis in the primaries?

[Bill Rupp]

I probably have to go with DeSantis.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I think. I think the question, Bob Moore, is, would you vote for Trump in the primaries? Because, listen, if you're voting, you're not voting Democrat. It's like, you know, they're fucking satanic, right? So you're not voting for those people, no matter what. They could prop up fucking, you know, I don't care. You could put up Dr. Oz against Joe Biden. I'd probably vote for Dr. Oz, right? Because I'm just not voting Democrat ever. So the real question is, who would you prefer on the Republican side? Like, what about you, Bob? Trump? Desantis?

[Bob's Lessons]

I just think Desantis is, like, the next hero 2.0. Yeah. I mean, what the. Man? I mean, if we're gonna vote Desantis, we might as well vote for, like, you know, Desantis. Steroids.

[Tommy G]

Yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

You know what I'm saying?

[Tommy G]

Yeah. 100. Bill, what about.

[Bill Rupp]

What about. So is. Is the top would be. If it's not Biden, right. It would be either Kamala or that Buddha gag guy, Right?

[Tommy G]

Realistically, if it depends on what Biden does, right? Like, if he doesn't run again in 2024, then you might see them sneak in. Gavin Newsom or something, like, who knows what the fuck it could be? But as of now, it's, you know, Biden or, you know, one of the fucking idiots that you saw in the last primary.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah, what about, what about AOC?

[Tommy G]

I don't think she's old enough, even in 2024. I think she needs one. I think she's 20, 28. And they, and they won't. I don't think they'll let her. She's too progressive, I think. I don't think.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, we saw that in the last election. That the Democrat Party is not going with the, with the, quote, Pied Piper.

[Tommy G]

You know, they should have gone Bernie. Bernie would have.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, they're not gonna go Bernie. They're not gonna pay him off and give him houses and whatever to shut him the up.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, I think AOC was another situation where they brought her in thinking, oh, young Latina, major city, that we need traction. She's one of the new, you know, WEF type leaders that we could have. The Newsoms, the Trudeau's, the AOCs. And then she just went way too rogue on the progressive side. And now. And she's way too retarded. Kind of like what they did with Kamala. Right. Kamala will be the perfect vp, will kill off Biden in a year or two. And Kamala's so fucking stupid that they actually can't even get rid of Biden now because then they're stuck with a retard. I think that's AOC to the Democrats.

[Bob's Lessons]

I guess that's just why I'm so dejected right now. Like, it's just because. And I've tried to tune it out because every time I turn on the tv I just see like. Like, how does anybody see this objectively and not say something is severely wrong?

[Tommy G]

And that's why I'm not voting.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, like something is severely wrong. And I just. I wish I could. I wish I knew how many people, like we're watching this, that our Democrats that are leftists that watch did vote are watching this. Just, just objectively just staring at this guy and saying that he is fit to, to hold office and that, that they made a good decision and that he's doing a good job. Like, I just, I don't see anybody, anybody that's proud of their vote are proud of the president. Not one person.

[Tommy G]

Nope.

[Bob's Lessons]

I still haven't seen it.

[Tommy G]

The thing for me, Bob, is, Bill, like, when you ask, like, the voting, I don't listen. Trump. I've had one. And again, I have regrets, but I'm not going to Pretend like I wasn't all in on the Trump train. I do not give a fuck about politicians or lawyers. That has been my theory through life. I don't trust cops, but that's more for me just being a criminal, you know, I've grown to actually respect cops a lot more now than I was when I was younger and running from them all the time.

[Bill Rupp]

You see me and you were opposite on that. Because I used a lot. Listen, I, I respect what some of them do. Not all because the police department is. My grandfather was a detective. I worked at the jail for 10 years. I had a lot more respect before I started working in that industry. And now I'm a lot have a lot less respect.

[Tommy G]

Right. Because you see the dirty shady that goes on.

[Bob's Lessons]

Give me an example of something that's like just general that you saw that most people wouldn't see.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean about it just alone. The jails are disgusting.

[Tommy G]

The jails, the prisons, the way they treat the inmates.

[Bill Rupp]

Look at Rikers island is probably the worst place in the world. If you go, if you get arrested, really like you have, you have a.

[Tommy G]

I would say Passaic County Jail.

[Bill Rupp]

But you have a legitimate shot at dying. Like not, not a joke, like legitimately dying. So I mean, it's bad. And in the police, nobody wants to be a cop anymore. I mean, it's, it's awful. No one wants to be a cop. The ones that were growing up, like, I seen like people who were losers in high school became cops and they thought they had all the power. Now they realize now nobody has the power.

[Tommy G]

Yeah.

[Bill Rupp]

No.

[Bob's Lessons]

So that's an important point that I want to enforced because people, a lot of the back, the blue people are the same people that are saying, you know, down with the FBI, CIA, this, the Department of Defense all. And my, my thing is this. Who do you think is the one, you know, it all triggered.

[Tommy G]

They came from. Yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

Where did they come from?

[Tommy G]

Just start as a CIA agent. You weren't a cop at some point.

[Bob's Lessons]

Where do you think? Who do you think they get the orders from? The barking orders to arrest and to detain and to treat poorly and to, you know, give preferential treatment here and there or to, you know, like, like how can you be one and not the other? I don't understand that. That's why I think what Bill's saying, you know, I respect, you know, or you to respect some of them. But you can't like just say I.

[Tommy G]

Like you couldn't say me and respect in the same sentence, could you? What I felt like you were going to say my name in the same sentence.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, I didn't know, like, how you stop.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, well, no, I think you just said respect, Tommy, and like something in your head went, no, don't say that.

[Bob's Lessons]

Maybe. Yeah, I don't like. I don't like having respect and Tommy in the same.

[Tommy G]

No. Unless the word not is in there.

[Bob's Lessons]

The knot is in between there. I do not. But the blanket statement of Back to Blue is. Is equivocally as bad as, like, you know, believe all women.

[Tommy G]

Right.

[Bob's Lessons]

You know, it's.

[Tommy G]

It's.

[Bob's Lessons]

Listen, it's like the le. It's like the rights. Me too movement. Really?

[Tommy G]

Yeah. And most cops. I'm not. Sorry, most cops are not deserving of the respect that they get. Bottom line. Like, I. And I could only go off the sample size that I know. But, Bill, we live in a very, very metropolitan area of this country. And I think compared to our listeners in Nebraska and Tennessee and Kentucky and Alabama and Georgia and fucking Michigan, we are probably have more cops per square foot here than any of those places. Correct?

[Bill Rupp]

100%.

[Tommy G]

So our sample size is extreme, extremely high. Of our interactions with cops, and I know that 80% and the 20% I know are phenomenal and great people, but 80% of them are either mailing it in, not prepared for real situations that show up in their job, or we're fucking like kids that were bullied or bullies themselves in high school. That's most of the cops that I know.

[Bob's Lessons]

Let me ask you this, Bill. So like, American Gangster, this just as a reference I can use, you know, like the Russell Crowe character. Is it Russell Crowe? What was the one with Russell Crowe being a cop? Was that American Gangster? Oh, there's. Anyway, there's a movie with Russell Crowe. He's a cop, but he's a straight cop. You know, like. Like he found like a bunch of money and turned it in and all the other cops looked at him bad because he did honest police work. Right. And so, you know, because there's. There's dirty cops within the organization. So la. Is that what it is? Maybe. Whatever. The movie.

[Tommy G]

I googled Russell Crowe cop, and I know there's like 50American gangster looks like two.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, yeah, American Gangster. Yeah, that's what it was because he ended up catching the guy. So anyway, like his whole.

[Tommy G]

The movie, Bob, for anyone who wanted to see it.

[Bob's Lessons]

I mean, dude, every gangster movie, they get caught. I just want to ruin every gangster movie.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I was just gonna watch it.

[Bob's Lessons]

They either get caught or snitch or both. All right, so I just ruined every gangster movie, Dick. So anyway, honest cop, where gets you in trouble with the law enforcement. It seems similar to, like, snitching. I mean, do you. Do you see that in your experience, Bill?

[Bill Rupp]

100. 100. You can't. I mean, listen, I. I mean, it's. It's done with now. I got. I got called in the grand jury a few times at the end of my stint at working as a jail, and I had to cover for people.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right.

[Tommy G]

Listen, dirty cop is redundant.

[Bill Rupp]

It's crazy. I mean, it's us. But I just don't understand the whole thing with the cop situation. I don't understand how New York City's worse. And Tommy doesn't agree with me. Bobby, I think Mayor Eric Adams running the. Running as the mayor, and he was a former cop, and crime is the highest it's ever been in New York City.

[Tommy G]

Right.

[Bill Rupp]

It doesn't make sense to me. Something's wrong there.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, it does make sense if it's crooked. Right?

[Tommy G]

Right.

[Bob's Lessons]

Because. Because then they open up those avenues. If it's a cop, avenues get open up.

[Tommy G]

Here's the crime rates. I read it on the Mercy Plus. But here's the overall crime up 30%. Larceny is up 40%. Robberies up 37%. This is year over year. Burglaries, 26%. Shootings 13%. Good job there. Only 13 more percent, people getting shot, but murders up 34%. So it's amazing, people.

[Bob's Lessons]

You know what that sounds like? Sounds like. Sounds like killing is business, and business is good. So when you have private prison systems, too, that sounds like good business. That's another thing, another element of this that gets overlooked.

[Bill Rupp]

Well, that, Bobby, that's huge that you say that. We've got a lot of them in New Jersey.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. Like every five feet.

[Bill Rupp]

And jails. So not just state prisons, but counties. And. And those are crooked. That's all about the money. You got people in there who aren't even trained officers. So, I mean, you're 100 right there. That's another avenue. That's ridiculous.

[Bob's Lessons]

I mean, easy avenue if you follow the money starting, you know, because just like where you have lobbyists pushing for whatever, you know, what if the he. You know, he's in the back pocket? You know, they're. The private prison systems are in his back pocket saying, you know, you know, hey, all you got to do is, you know, we need. It's just like a quota, man. Like, hey, let's say that.

[Tommy G]

Let's say the police department needs money, Bob, and Mayor Adams is up there and they want more money to launder more money. Okay, just listen. Just let crap crime go wild for like a year, and then I'll be able to turn around and triple your budget.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yep.

[Tommy G]

You know, now I could have an excuse.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yep, you have an excuse to. Yeah. Triple the defense budget.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. And then you could go skim off 50 of that put in your pocket.

[Bill Rupp]

Well, there's no reason why it should be so different between him and de Blasio. I mean, it's. It's ridiculous.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I think a part of it, like we said on the. The last podcast, the. The plus was, is that cops or there's also not enough cops Now? The cops, the good cops, retired. The people they're bringing in are underqualified. They're just trying to staff them. And when you have a country that just fucking lets people fucking commit crimes and not get punished for it, and burn down cities which happened under Trump and do all this other shit, which they're like, fucking, this is not a felony anymore. This is not a felon. I legalize this. The prisons are full. Let's let the pedophiles out. Let's let the murderers out. Uh, we're not going to charge anyone. If you steal anything over a thousand dollars, like, then, yeah, people are going to commit more fucking crimes. Like, that's also a big part of it, dude. No. Cops are afraid to fucking do their job because they're afraid to end up on fucking Twitter trending because they fucking shot somebody.

[Bob's Lessons]

And that's a big thing, too. But my buddy had his car stolen from the parking lot at my gig on Saturday. And the cop basically said, hey, here's the ticket so that you can claim it on your insurance. Basically saying, like, go through insurance because that fucking thing's gone and we're not going to do anything about it.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I mean, cops are afraid to do their job. And Bill's dead.

[Bob's Lessons]

That was me.

[Tommy G]

Oh, that's you, Bob. Yeah. Did you just get raped?

[Bob's Lessons]

You just got some points, right, Bill?

[Tommy G]

If Bobby falls on a ladle and it goes up his ass, does that as a point. That's a point. That's definitely a point right there. How did we even get on the cop conversation? No one have any idea.

[Bob's Lessons]

I tell you what, it is a good pivot, because I did. There are two topics I wanted to say, you know, with the health department, Covid was an excuse to increase tenfold the amount of health department jobs in My city, you know, all of a sudden, like the budget increased like 100%. All these jobs opened up, which by the way, will never go away. So now our health department has a overarching umbrella, can shut us down at any time. You know, crime creates more jobs within, you know, the police force, and budgets go up for defense spending. And now you were saying, like with the inflation bill. Right. You have the inflation bill, which created 91,000 IRS jobs.

[Tommy G]

Yep. Which we're going to go into right now. Yeah. So this inflation bill.

[Bob's Lessons]

Hold on. How about that segue?

[Bill Rupp]

That was good.

[Bob's Lessons]

Thank you.

[Bill Rupp]

That was not as good as Tommy, but that was good.

[Tommy G]

Like I said, Bo Bob's good. You just never get the credit. I'll get. That's it. That's right, Bobby Carolla. So let Tom Rogan take back. Let Tom roll and take Tom Rogan take back over now. So the, the inflation bill and bill. I don't know when you have to go to the other show, but let us, let us.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah, about 20 minutes.

[Tommy G]

All right, so the inflation bill, the funny thing about that. So to break this down, you guys have seen the Inflation reduction Act of 2022, which was literally the most ridiculous, asinine, fake title, fake bill, hundreds of millions of dollars, the new proposal for the FY 2022 budget reconciliation, blah, blah, blah. Approximately 300 billion is in deficit reduction, which it's not. It actually is going to increase it and it's going to increase inflation over the first three or four years. It'll increase inflation forever. But even them themselves said that it's going to start reducing inflation in the year 2026. 7. Like, who the knows what the gonna be going on five years from now?

[Bob's Lessons]

This is like when they pass all this like green energy stuff to say that they're gonna, like, what, cool the climate by 0.2 degrees or something.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, well, speaking of climate, nice segue, Bob. And 369 billion is towards energy security and climate change programs over the next 10 years. So $400 billion of this bill was spent for fucking some bullshit climate change narrative, which it's not going to do anything. And it, it isn't even a real thing. And then a part of this is one, it's raising everyone's taxes. Now, it's not actually a tax raise like Biden said. He's not going to raise your taxes, but because of this bill, it is therefore going to increase your taxes. And then they just happen to add in, you know, 90,000 IRS agents in this to, you know, use your Taxpayer money to audit you. And I don't even think it's to put you in jail. I think it's to probably pay off the billions of dollars that they're sending the fucking Ukraine and they're going to go make us pay for it. So we're going to get taxed and then we're going to get audited and then we're going to have to pay more taxes and we're paying for this thing right now. Like, this is insane.

[Bob's Lessons]

One of my favorite stances that we ever had was our day one pro Russia, Ukraine stance on no mercy. And it's been exposed more and more and more as a money laundering scheme. And all, all points of this just scream laundering. This green energy is, is the easiest way. NASA, you know, I've always thought was a money. Money laundering. You know, the easiest way to. It's like a. NASA is the strip club of money laundering, in my opinion. Like the easiest way to do it. Space and energy, because it's ever expansive, it's never going.

[Tommy G]

And no one knows what the fuck is there or what it is.

[Bob's Lessons]

Nobody knows, you know.

[Tommy G]

So you know what NASA is? NASA is whenever anyone, if anyone out there owns a business. NASA is the tech team that you hired. Where you have. No, you hired them because you don't know anything about tech. So when they tell you or Bill, a better example for you is the mechanic, right? Like where you're just like, I don't fucking know. Like, hey, we need another thousand dollars because we got to recode the pricing software. Like, okay, if we don't do it, you're not going to be able to fine here. You know, like, that's NASA. We need another 100 million. For what? Dude, we haven't even been back to the moon. Oh. Because we found a star that could be colliding with the universe. We could be crashing into California in 47 years and we have to reroute it. Yeah, here, take it. You know.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, it's all. That's. That's a good. That's a good analogy, Bill.

[Tommy G]

Where does the NASA money go?

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, I'm. I'm trying to figure out where the gambling money goes, let alone NASA.

[Tommy G]

The taxes from the gambling taxes, the billion dollars, These pockets of rich people.

[Bob's Lessons]

How about the mega. The mega millions guy?

[Tommy G]

Who.

[Bob's Lessons]

Or the one. The billion dollars. He gets 400k and the IRS gets 800k, Bill.

[Bill Rupp]

Some of it goes to the roads and.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, okay. Oh, God. I had a Jaguar xfr, Bill, with rubber. That was like a quarter Inch off the rim. It was so low profile. Sports. I pop my tires every three weeks in New Jersey. Like get the out of here with the road.

[Bill Rupp]

You know that. Do you know the government has like secret stuff? So obviously. So if we ever.

[Tommy G]

How much does it cost to fix a pothole?

[Bill Rupp]

Listen, if we ever went to World.

[Tommy G]

War 3, could you fix a pothole? Bill?

[Bill Rupp]

Yes.

[Tommy G]

How much would it cost you to fix a pothole in your driveway?

[Bill Rupp]

The bag of stuff's like $15.

[Tommy G]

Okay, so if they wanted to fix all the potholes in Bloomfield, how much would it cost?

[Bill Rupp]

Probably a few grand.

[Tommy G]

Right? So that's where fucking hundreds of millions.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean we. They have dirt. Like say we have. We get into World War three. They have stuff now like Yuli. They. They will show you things that you'll. You've never seen before. Like these planes that just go straight up. Like probably stuff that disappears. Who the hell knows they're building stuff that we don't know about.

[Tommy G]

That's where it's going, Bill. Their budget was $24 billion last year. NASA. But what like we.

[Bill Rupp]

If we. What do we get if we go to World War 3?

[Tommy G]

We lost Pluto as a planet. Like that's the biggest thing that happened.

[Bob's Lessons]

Last picture of fucking space. That looks like a glam photo backdrop.

[Tommy G]

The do it.

[Bill Rupp]

If we go to war, you'll be happy as a pig in that dare. Spent all that money because they already.

[Tommy G]

Have all these weapons.

[Bill Rupp]

They're weapons you've never seen before.

[Tommy G]

Well, I tell you this all the time. The technology that they have is 40, 50 years ahead of anything we could even conceptualize right now. So when we start talking about an al. A fake alien invasion, they already have all the technology to make that fucking happen tomorrow.

[Bill Rupp]

Do you think that there's teleportation?

[Bob's Lessons]

Yes, 100%.

[Bill Rupp]

So you.

[Bob's Lessons]

You.

[Bill Rupp]

I. I kind of actually think there is too.

[Tommy G]

I believe there's time travel, teleportation, bending time, bending light. Multiple simulations, multiple universes. Yes, all of it.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, you're gonna see stuff like that. You wouldn't. They're probably doing it already.

[Tommy G]

They're do. Of course they're doing it already.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, well, there you go. That's where the money's going, right?

[Tommy G]

So. But I mean, I'm paying for this. What am I getting out of it?

[Bill Rupp]

That if World War III breaks out, you're going to be safe?

[Tommy G]

There's no but I don't even believe nuclear weapons exist. I don't even believe that.

[Bill Rupp]

Listen, that guy who teleports to China to kill the. Whatever they got over there. You'll be very. You'll be very happy.

[Bob's Lessons]

Whatever guy they got over there teleport.

[Tommy G]

To China and kill all those, those people over there, those Orientals.

[Bill Rupp]

If he can't teleport, it'll be Nancy because she gets over there, she gets, she gets. Goes wherever she wants.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, Nancy looks like she's teleported about 50, 000 times and she's glitched every time. Like, each time her eyebrow ends up in a different spot.

[Bill Rupp]

Like, like we were talking about the, the people who formed to the ship.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

Philadelphia Experiment.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah, she comes out different every time.

[Bob's Lessons]

That's important too, because, I mean, you're a Stranger Things fan. Like we said before, that was originally to be called Montauk because of the, the Montauk project. And it had to do with a lot of that stuff, including like the remote viewing and everything. But, you know, that's what we're saying with all the, the secret stuff, that's where all the money goes into these secret programs that, that develop these machines, like 11 or you know, you know, Kill bot type things or whatever they use to weaponize. So, yeah, I mean, I 100% think teleportation real, especially considering Tesla was experimenting with that. And you know, we all know that they, the FBI was trying as hard as they can to either destroy it or to take all this. Was it intelligence?

[Tommy G]

Who was it that found all Tesla?

[Bob's Lessons]

Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it was a relative of the 45th president of the United States.

[Tommy G]

Oh, it's Donald Trump's uncle. That's. Yeah, John Trump. Interesting.

[Bob's Lessons]

I just think all of this is, it's. There's some type of interdimensional war going on that we have no fucking idea about.

[Tommy G]

Right? And that's why when people are like, like, like when you asked me, who am I going to vote for? No one, because I'm done. Like, Ron Paul was the only guy I went all in on in my life. I almost got a fucking Ron Paul tattoo. Bobby, you remember my golden that I had when I was with Selena back in California? California. My golden retriever, his name was Paulie. His full name was Dr. Ron Paul. And he, and he. That was his full name. I was getting a Ron Paul revolution tattoo on my back shoulder blade. I had it designed. If you, if my Facebook wasn't deleted, Bobby may even remember this. My whole Facebook was fucking Ron Paul revolution.

[Bob's Lessons]

No, I remember. I remember that was before Obama. Then Obama gets elected, and he turned his entire attention to. Towards hating.

[Tommy G]

I went full hate Obama. Yeah. In 2008.

[Bob's Lessons]

It was so funny.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. But I mean, it was all Ron Paul, like, because I feel like he's the only politician who wasn't a politician who. I believed him. And I was like, this guy really is saying everything you're not supposed to say and doing everything you're not supposed to do and everything he predicted. We got to get rid of the FBI. They're a corrupt organization. All the three letter organizations. We got to get rid of them. We got to stop fighting all these wars. Get the fuck out of these countries. Let them fend for their fucking selves. Who gives a shit? Stay out of it. It's all money laundering. We got to abolish the irs. That was his whole plan. Look what's happening right now. Everything that's going on, we. Literally everything Ron Paul predicted is happening right now. We got to stop with these wars because they're money laundering. We have the Ukraine situation. We got to stop with the FBI and the CIA because they're manipulative. They're plants of the cabal. And look what's going on with the FBI and all this shit. Pick a side on the Democrat side or the Republican side. The Trump raid. The FBI. The irs. He said, we got to get rid of the irs. They're just gouging. Taxation is theft. Now. We just added 90. Everything Ron Paul said 30 years ago is happening right now, today. And that's why I'm like, I voted for Trump. And I went all in on Trump because he was the closest thing I'd ever seen to Ron Paul. He was an outsider. He had balls. He was saying the things that everyone else was afraid to say. And he looked like a rogue loose cannon to let loose in the middle of the fucking government. And for three years he was. And then I realized, oh, either something happened or we've been played the whole time. But I know damn fucking well I will never put that motherfucker in the same sentence as Ron Paul ever again. And that's what I was doing in 2016.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, nor should you. And I don't think Rod Paul was much of a Trump guy either, I can tell you that. And he wasn't.

[Tommy G]

That should have been my first cue.

[Bob's Lessons]

But here's the weird thing. I just. I do want to point to this real quick because it ties in a lot of stuff that I. This is the Rabbit Holbein going on. I briefly mentioned it, but the Mar A Lago Rage has happened. And so one of the things that I always thought was interesting about his. His Mar a Lago place was that he had this thing called Plus Ultra Insignia written on, like, the ceiling on these tiles at Mar a Lago. And everybody.

[Tommy G]

You even know what you. Before you even say this, do you. You just said to Ultra.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

Did you see Danny's Twitter?

[Bob's Lessons]

What'd he say?

[Tommy G]

Danny?

[Bill Rupp]

Bill, you saw this, right?

[Tommy G]

Bobby definitely has no idea. Yeah. So I don't know where you're gonna go. Finish where you're gonna go. Actually, let me finish where you're gonna go and then let me say this.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, the. The Plus Ultra thing, I always thought was interesting, like, like the origin, the original, where it came from. I think it had something to do with, like, the Spanish Inquisition. And I meant like, like on forward or I forget what it actually means, but that's insignificant to this point. So Plus Ultra was also this, like, science, you know, and this is. This goes into science fiction a little bit. It was this supposed secret society of, like, a lot of great thinkers like Tesla, Edison and such that created this fictitious land called Tomorrowland. And it was basically like, like, they knew these. These intelligent thinkers at the turn of the 19th century. Like, knew how to bend timing to create, you know, futuristic societies in different dimensions to experiment with all of their shit. Okay. And this was at the turn of the century, they made a movie about it called Tomorrowland. And the end destination was at Disneyland. The movie Tomorrowland was funded by Disney. So for him to have Plus Ultra, which was this course, unquote, secret society of all these futuristic thinkers at his Mar a Lago, when his Uncle Trump, John Trump himself, had access to Tesla's documents, is very significant. That being said, what is this new Maga movement called? It's called Ultra Maga, which I find fascinating that that's the rebranding of maga.

[Tommy G]

I'm so glad I waited. Danny's tweet. Danny. Bill knows what I'm about to say. Danny's tweet. So I don't know what Ultra Mag is. I never heard of this. I just thought it was fucking people being stupid. Danny, who's flip flopped 47 times on Trump, no mercy. Plus now all of a sudden, because Trump's back, and this is what I said, and we're going to get into this now. Bill's about to head out. He doesn't care about the Trump shit, so we'll get into it as he leaves. But Danny just tweeted out two hours ago, ultra Maga strong holler if you hear me right. And this is what I'm. And again, no offense, Danny. Love you to death. But Danny is the Trump shill. Like, that's why I'm going to get into that.

[Bob's Lessons]

You need to use him as a reference.

[Tommy G]

You need Danny's to have the move. Danny is the MAGA movement. He's exactly the MAGA movement. Because now that Trump got raided, this was a scripted rage raid. This was a staged raid. We're going to get into this in a minute. But this is all a false flag to rally the psychotic Uncle Danny's who were wavering on Trump and who were all in DeSantis just two weeks ago. Now they're like fucking. They're coming after Trump. Now we gotta go fucking all in Ultra maga, bro. You want to. This just. They're afraid of us, bro. This is what's going on. And now Danny's tweeting ultra Maga where two weeks ago he was Team DeSantis.

[Bob's Lessons]

And this is important. This brings Bill back into the discussion because Ultra maga. There's another thing with the word Ultra on it that's really important that has to do with mind control. MK Ultra. And this was brought in season four Strangers things. They alluded straight to MK Ultra, which was a government mind control program. They talked about it in fucking stranger Things. And now you got MK Ultra MAGA bots like Uncle Danny that are all in.

[Tommy G]

On.

[Bob's Lessons]

On Ultra Ultra Maga. Here's what else you have. You have Plus Ultra, which was the secret society. You have no mercy. Plus.

[Tommy G]

Oh, they're factioned up.

[Bill Rupp]

Oh, my God.

[Tommy G]

Let's get them.

[Bob's Lessons]

I think Danny's the faction.

[Tommy G]

Danny is so. So we have. Bobby thinks Danny's the faction. Bill actually drafted Kurt as being part of the faction. Wow. In the.

[Bob's Lessons]

And they're both on the same show.

[Tommy G]

And somehow I'm scapegoating it. I am the Rogan definitely not faction. No. I'm too stupid to be faction.

[Bob's Lessons]

That's something that somebody in the faction would say.

[Bill Rupp]

100.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I just said I was in the faction. Bill said I wasn't.

[Bob's Lessons]

Kurt has way too much time where we don't know what he's doing.

[Tommy G]

Kurt's definitely. Kurt's definitely. Yeah. Faction. I mean, that's not even a question. Yep. That's not even a question. Bill. What do you. How you got to get out of here?

[Bill Rupp]

Actually, Rack isn't around, so I can stick around for a little bit.

[Tommy G]

Okay, cool. So. So let me. So what do you think? Of Uncle Danny. Because you listen to no Mercy plus, right, Bill? Yeah, yeah, all the time. Yeah. So what do you think of Danny all of a sudden being Ultra Maga after hearing the last few episodes?

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, I heard. I don't remember if it was in the chat or it was on the podcast where he said he was done with that.

[Tommy G]

Like, right? Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, he was done.

[Bill Rupp]

Oh. That's why I didn't listen. I changed.

[Tommy G]

He told me when I gave my fucking pitch on no Mercy plus about Trump, and I'll give some of it here. When I gave my pitch to him, he went from all in to. You know what? I think you're right. Trump just needs to stay away. That's where he was at just two weeks ago. Trump needs to stay away. I'm actually going to call him right now. Let's call Danny. Because it's not fair to talk about him if he's not having a chance to defend himself.

[Bob's Lessons]

Fair enough.

[Tommy G]

Let me just do this real quick.

[Bill Rupp]

I don't know, I changed my mind too.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, no, changing your mind is fine, just not in 24 hours.

[Bob's Lessons]

You can't go from I'm over it to Ultra.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, like, it took. It took me a while to come off Trump.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right.

[Tommy G]

Uncle Danny, you are on no Mercy with Tommy G, Bill Rupp and Bob's lessons. How do you feel right now? Angry. Angry. Okay, so you can't hear Bobby and Bill. They can hear you. I. We were just talking shit on you, so I figured it would only be fair to let you represent yourself. We want to know what Ultra Maga. Hold on, let me just read this tweet. Ultra Maga strong holler if you hear me means on your Twitter exactly what it reads.

[Uncle Danny]

Are you three dummies?

[Tommy G]

Well, we're very curious because Bobby doesn't listen to no Mercy plus because he's Basically.

[Bob's Lessons]

Because I'm not on it.

[Tommy G]

You and Kurt are in the faction, and because he's not on it and Bill does, and he's heard you just say, hold on. Two weeks ago, Trump needs to stay out of everything, and now you're Ultra Maga? Holler if you hear me now.

[Uncle Danny]

After what the did to him?

[Tommy G]

I told you. I told you guys. Go on. Danny.

[Uncle Danny]

Ultra Maga.

[Tommy G]

Why? What did you say? Because of what the assholes did to him. Gone.

[Uncle Danny]

Tell me that's what we're being called now. We're being called Ultra Magnus. That's what we're being called.

[Tommy G]

We. Wow.

[Bill Rupp]

We.

[Uncle Danny]

Any Trump supporter?

[Tommy G]

Okay, so. Well, I mean, listen, Just tell me what. I'm not setting you up here. Totally setting him up. I just want to know. When you say, after what they did to Tim, what do you mean? What are you talking about?

[Uncle Danny]

You don't invade the president's house with the FBI. You're weaponizing the FBI. You don't do that. You don't do that. They're fishing. They're fishing for ways to not let him run.

[Tommy G]

Hmm. So you're. So now you're all in Trump again Because they went after him.

[Uncle Danny]

They went after him. Now he's got to come back.

[Tommy G]

So. So you're ultra maga now.

[Uncle Danny]

Ultra. Ultra mag.

[Tommy G]

Ultra. So you so now.

[Uncle Danny]

Busted my balls about a tweet from these two dummies. You got one dummy sitting there fucking playing Mario Cl Festival, okay? And then you got the other dummy talking about the sale prices at Shop, right? But they got to talk to me and bust my ball while one's using his thumb to drive Mario card around, and the other one's shopping for tuna.

[Tommy G]

Fish for 99 cents a can. When any of you two like to respond to Danny, I'll be glad to recite.

[Bill Rupp]

That was pretty good. I've got Bill.

[Tommy G]

Bill thinks. Bill thinks it was very good. And Bobby said he's got nothing. So it looks like 10, 8 round for Uncle Danny.

[Uncle Danny]

Here's the funny thing. I just went on Facebook, and I'm watching Bobby doing a tour of Mario Kart Festival, which looked rather fun.

[Bob's Lessons]

It was fun.

[Uncle Danny]

But you want to talk about me, and you're sitting there playing Mario Kart.

[Tommy G]

I mean, it's. I mean, listen, what do you think the odds of Bobby getting raped by a video game client?

[Uncle Danny]

Oh, no doubt. Absolutely no doubt.

[Tommy G]

Bill's convinced it's already happened.

[Bob's Lessons]

I think Danny gets fired before I get raised.

[Uncle Danny]

My nephew Bob is the coolest nerd you're ever gonna meet.

[Bob's Lessons]

Thank you.

[Tommy G]

Coolest nerd you're ever gonna meet. I called him Adam Corolla without talent. I think we're both like. I mean, these are the most backhanded compliments you're ever gonna get, and I think. I think they're the best compliments he's ever gotten.

[Bob's Lessons]

You're the cutest ugly person.

[Tommy G]

What'd you say? Danny, I got a little bone to.

[Uncle Danny]

Pick with that Billy Vanilli there.

[Tommy G]

Oh, really? I think you go hot as fat. Hottest fat chick, Bob.

[Bill Rupp]

What did I do?

[Tommy G]

Go to Billy Vanilli. Would like to know what he has to say.

[Uncle Danny]

Talking about driving around in a convertible, tossing white castles out the window in paramus on Route 80, on Route 17. I mean, come on, Bill. Don't you care about the environment?

[Tommy G]

Oh, my God. Danny's gone full liptard.

[Bill Rupp]

Wow. I mean, listen, I do care about.

[Uncle Danny]

You will never see me throw anything, anything out the window since I was a kid.

[Bob's Lessons]

A cigarette.

[Tommy G]

Well, you never. Throwing a cigarette out the window.

[Uncle Danny]

Yes.

[Tommy G]

Every cigarette I've ever smoked with you, which is probably hundreds, if not thousands, you have thrown directly into the street outside the residence at Fort Lee. Yes, everyone. So Bill doesn't smoke. Let's say that was his one violation. Who do you think has done more to harm the environment? Your 15 million cigarettes you've thrown into the street or Bill's one fucking cheeseburger wrapper?

[Uncle Danny]

No, because Bill if one. If Bill did it once, he's done it 100 times.

[Tommy G]

I mean, I doubt he voluntarily throws full bags of fast food out the roof of his convertible very often, Danny.

[Bill Rupp]

No, I know Bill.

[Tommy G]

I'm fair to. Fair to say. That was a one off.

[Uncle Danny]

I saw Bill driving around his little Volkswagen convertible. Cabaret, okay? Driving around the streets of Paramus with his little. Little chick mobile.

[Tommy G]

What? Did you drive the chick yet? What is your little stupid car that I made fun of?

[Uncle Danny]

I have a diesel.

[Tommy G]

What is it, a Prius? No, what is it?

[Uncle Danny]

I have a Volkswagen Jetta.

[Tommy G]

He has a Volkswagen Jetta. Free girl I fucked in high school.

[Bill Rupp]

Did you hear him pause before he said Jetta?

[Uncle Danny]

Diesel.

[Tommy G]

Oh, but it's a diesel. So it's a car. It's a chick car with a dick. 99 cent cans of tuna car with balls. That's what you have. You have a transvestite car. Good job, Bill. Do you believe this guy's making fun of you right now for driving? What do you have, Bill?

[Bill Rupp]

Mini.

[Tommy G]

So he has a Mini. So. Bobby, we're. We're L. Bobby, I'm sitting here with a. With a. With a suv. You're sitting here with a Jeep. Like men, right? Yes. We're listening to 2 have dick measuring Contests about their Jetta and their Bug.

[Bob's Lessons]

I think we need a drag race.

[Uncle Danny]

What are my other vehicles?

[Tommy G]

What?

[Uncle Danny]

I have a big badass pickup truck.

[Bob's Lessons]

No, he doesn't. He has an Xterra.

[Uncle Danny]

Billy Vanill's driving around.

[Tommy G]

Billy has it. Billy Vanilli has a Jeep too.

[Bill Rupp]

I got a Wrangler and I got an F250.

[Tommy G]

He's got an F250 and a Wrangler. He said okay, so that's okay.

[Uncle Danny]

He's okay in my book.

[Tommy G]

See how he flip flops?

[Bob's Lessons]

He's Ultra Billy now.

[Tommy G]

I mean, now he's Ultra Billy.

[Uncle Danny]

What convertible is he driving?

[Tommy G]

Oh, he drives that little chick mobile. That stupid Mini Cooper that I made.

[Bob's Lessons]

I like those.

[Uncle Danny]

Okay, so he drives a Mini Cooper.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, he's a.

[Uncle Danny]

Well, you said it, not me.

[Tommy G]

I don't know. This isn't no Mercy Plus. Danny, you don't have to listen. Kurt's not here. The whole gang is here. We got all four of us here. Kim Jong, Kurt is not here, so we don't have to. We could say whatever the we want. Let it fly. Talk about slitting throats and. And bleeding out cunts. Whatever you want to say, Danny, you can let it go.

[Uncle Danny]

Because I'm a. I'm a racist, homophobic human being.

[Tommy G]

Well, yeah, that's because you send our podcast to all the liberals.

[Uncle Danny]

I have to watch what I say.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. All right, So, I mean, you could talk about brutal blowjobs here all you want. Whatever you want. This is.

[Uncle Danny]

Elder.

[Tommy G]

What's wrong with Mario Kart? Zelda, my nephew.

[Uncle Danny]

So I love it, but I think.

[Tommy G]

At least he's making money from it, right? Like, he's not one of these jerk offs just sitting there playing. He's probably started a. Started. He's Pablo Escobar. He started an empire.

[Uncle Danny]

I give him credit for that. But, you know, I want to say, hey, check out my nephew Bob. Look, he's on. Look at the video just made.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, it's weird. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to. You don't want to.

[Bill Rupp]

I watch people play that live, so.

[Uncle Danny]

You know, I want my nephew Bob.

[Tommy G]

Saying, hey, look, he just got out.

[Uncle Danny]

Of prison for killing 20 people and slashing their throats.

[Tommy G]

I mean, you got that. You got that from me. You know, if you want to look cool in front of your friends, you say, look at my nephew Tommy. He robbed a bank. He's got a podcast with Bobby. You kind of. You keep him in the closet, you know, so.

[Uncle Danny]

Reminds me the days when you kept.

[Tommy G]

Cheating at the video games. I've been. I've been a gangster from the beginning. So Bobby says I'm gonna cheat on the false flag draft and win.

[Uncle Danny]

False flag. Let me see. I think I came close to something.

[Tommy G]

Oh, my God. All right, Danny. See you later. We got any final words? I'm not gonna hang up on you.

[Uncle Danny]

I know. You have a nice day.

[Tommy G]

I'm not gonna hang up on you. You could say your Twitter hand. There you go. All right. See? Clean exit, Danny. Nice and respectful. I let you go, but you do need to explain to me, you do need to explain to me what put you on this Ultra maga. That's the only thing I need to understand.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, we haven't even got to that.

[Tommy G]

We haven't even got to that. So tell us that we'll get to the Ultra. The. But I mean, okay, so this proves my point. And Bill, if at any point you gotta go, just, just let me know. Don't gotta wait for a break. So this literally was the most perfect fucking segue to the debate that I'm having with the whole universe.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

On the Trump false flag. Ok, so on no mercy plus two episodes ago, I was just saying Trump is going to serve as a human false flag for every major fuck up the left does. So my argument is that Trump needs to stay the fuck out of the way because he's nothing but a false flag. He just takes, even when he's not trying to be, he just takes over the news cycle. And the way I got Danny to flip Bobby was by telling him, listen, do you think Biden's doing a good job? No. Do you think this administration is drowning right now? Yes. Do you think that they're a detriment to America? Yes. Do you think the whole country sees it? Yes. His approval rating is the lowest ever. Do we need anything to get Biden out of office in 2024? Do we need anything to blow the doors off these midterms? If you care about the elections, which I don't. Do we need anything or are they dead in the water? Yes, they're dead in the water. So I go, why would you want Trump back in the fold right now?

[Bob's Lessons]

Right.

[Tommy G]

All it's going to do is take the attention of off the fuckups of Biden and give the media something new to focus everyone on. And Trump's going to serve as a false flag. And Kurt's like, oh, you should pick that up as a waiver claim, dude. The next day it happened. And then a week later the inflation thing goes batshit. He, he disrupted the Pelosi travel thing and took over the news. Then. And then this inflation reduction act's going crazy. Everyone's flipping out. 90,000 IRS agents. And what fucking happens? One day later, Donald Trump's Mar a Lago fucking house gets raided. And that's all you see anywhere, Right? That's it.

[Bob's Lessons]

How long has it been in this flag? Is it staying in the news cycle too?

[Tommy G]

Bill? It's the Bob. It's still the number one trending thing on Twitter.

[Bob's Lessons]

Wow.

[Tommy G]

No one is talking about anything but Trump right now. That is all anyone is talking about. And that's why I've gone from the four phases of all in, you know, love Trump to all right, you know what? I don't like what he's doing here with the vaccine in 2020. I don't like what he's doing with the masks. I don't like how he walked away and buried and left the Gen 6 people out to die. I don't like how he disappeared afterwards. And we had our podcast at this point, Bob, where I left first, right? I'm like, I think I'm out on Trump. Like, I don't think he's bad, but I just, I, I'm, I want to distance myself to then thinking, all right, let me dig into him. And now finding out, whoa, wow. We just completely overlooked every single red flag, like everyone who's ever been in a bad relationship before to now going to full. He is an operative for the left, right? And that's where I'm at. And, and it's. The proof is right here. Danny just fucking said it. All of a sudden, this was planned by Trump. Trump knew this was going to happen. This was all a false flag. This raid was predicted. This is the fakest raid I've ever seen. And all of a sudden I said, this is going to reignite the base. It's going to be Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. And Uncle Danny's ultra Maga mic. Drop it, Bill. Bobby, go.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, I mean, and I'm not done. So it's like, you know, once again referencing January 6th as the false flag to prevent any discussion about election integrity. This is the January 6th to reignite the base, you know, for a reelection campaign. And also, this is straight up, Vince McMahon could have written this script. This is WWE style storylines to create opposing forces, you know, that's why, like, look at, just think of the timing of this. This is right around the time where people are really beginning to campaign. And, you know, all the. This is why we had the false flag draft right now, because the midterms are coming up.

[Tommy G]

This is why we had the draft. We had the draft when we did because we said we got to do it now because all the false flags are about to start.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right?

[Tommy G]

Carry on.

[Bob's Lessons]

No, that's exactly right. And then, and then you have this raid that's happening and now Hillary's back in the mix. And now we're talking next day.

[Tommy G]

David Hogg's back in the next day. Like, everyone's back, like, the Whole band's back together. Like every, like you literally turn around the same day as the Trump raid. The next day Hillary drops her fucking. You know my emails. Hats. Fucking David Hogue goes out today. Is it hog or hog? I don't even know how to say the hog. Is it hog?

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, usually people name are Hogue. Yeah, I think it's from Days of Thunder. Harry Hulk.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well then let's go off of Days of Thunder. I'm okay with that.

[Tommy G]

That's our frame of reference for everything.

[Bob's Lessons]

I'm okay with that. Over the top or Days of Thunder. You know, I'm good all in.

[Tommy G]

By the way, pray the new Predator movie is awesome. Maybe they'll watch it together like a game. Yeah, the other day it was really good. So then you got David Hogan all of a sudden coming out today with the freemason pin on his thing going, oh, my grandfather gave me this. I wore it to shake the president's hand. And then when everyone's calling out the fucking Masonic symbol on it, he's like, I don't even know what that was. I don't even know what this is. Of course you're not like. And what, Greta will be here by Monday at this rate, like Greta Thunberg will be chirping by Monday. That is my prediction.

[Bob's Lessons]

So, Bill, what do you think anymore?

[Tommy G]

What's up?

[Bob's Lessons]

Do they need Greta? Because she became a meme with the how dare you. She kind of Alex Jones herself.

[Tommy G]

I think they're bringing it all back. Dude, we just had an Alex Jones trial, a Trump raid, a Hillary email, a David Hogue fucking thing. They're just basically like BLM's like looking in the door like, yo, are we ready yet? I thought they said September. They're like, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, blm like you're coming soon. Like they're bringing a whole. They're fucking unleashing the clip right now because they know they're fucked for the midterms. Bill, what is your take on this Trump thing? Because I know you voted for him and you've had to listen to me screaming about he's literally a Democratic operative for the last four months.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, I just don't understand how people flip flop on him. Like, Danny, I know it doesn't make sense to me.

[Tommy G]

You.

[Bill Rupp]

So you're either, you either left him a while ago, but I'm not understanding how you go back to him now. I do make any sense and I understand that that kid you were talking about, that's the kid who was Involved in some type of school shooting. Right?

[Tommy G]

Two of them, Yes, I saw Sandy Hook. One of them. Yes, two of them. He was at.

[Bill Rupp]

What do you mean? I don't understand that. What do you mean?

[Tommy G]

He was literally right. Bob. Is Bob still here?

[Bob's Lessons]

Sorry to go piss.

[Tommy G]

We were just saying David Hogue. Bobby Bill said, who's David? David Hogan.

[Bill Rupp]

No, I know who he is.

[Tommy G]

He said he was at a school shooting. And I said, yeah, two of them.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah. Well, thing about David Hogan, this is Broward county, is that, you know, this David Hogue was weaponized right after the shooting and, you know, used. But then again, remember, there was also an opposition to David Hogue, just like, you know, Trump's opposition to the Democratic Party. And he was. He was propped up similar to like a Greta Thunberg, but for gun reform, if that makes sense. You know, and, and just this is why anytime there's a false flag operation and you'll see this, if you look deep enough, you will see Masonic entities at all these events. Like, if you really. Like, if you really. This used to happen in the old school Internet where this was allowed to exist, where there'd be websites that would show you, like, hey, look, that guy's wearing a Masonic hat. Hey, that guy's got Masonic symbolism, you know, here, all over the Boston Marathon. And that every time there's a false flag event, you would see Masonic activity. So the reason why that Masonic pin is important because it just points once again to the fact that all these quote unquote actors are people that participate and get propped up after these false flag shootings. They're all tied to masonry.

[Tommy G]

And it's funny that he said it was from his grandfather and he said he thought it was a war pin.

[Bill Rupp]

I saw that also. But why would he even point that out? Like, I saw that. And as soon as I saw it, I saw there was Mason. Mason. I saw it because it was on the news and I saw it and I'm like, who is this kid?

[Bob's Lessons]

I mean, why would someone in the bloods, you know, throw up a gang sign? You know, why would you tag it on the side of a, you know, train or something? You know, like, I mean, yeah, but.

[Tommy G]

Bill, here's a better one that you'll. You'll click with. Why do serial killers tag their victims and leave clues?

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, yeah, they want everyone to know eventually because.

[Tommy G]

Because they're. They're. The other thing, if you take, if you take it a level, I got.

[Bill Rupp]

A better one, Tommy. The. The Home Alone, the Wet Bandits, you Know, make sure, you know, left every house wet. Oh, now we know it's all you.

[Tommy G]

You know, and the other, the other thing is too, Bill, when you're looking at a group like that, if you're looking at any type of recruiting group, they also want everyone who's being recruited and everyone who else who is involved. That's a way of signaling he's with us, you know, like. Because guess what the fucking. Let's say it's a cult, right? Let's say the Masonic symbol represents a culture, right? And again, I don't care if you think Freemasons are good, bad. Honestly, I think they've been both throughout.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right?

[Tommy G]

But the reality is, let's say it's a cult, right? And it's a cult symbol. Well, the people who live in la, let's say Drake's in the cult, and let's say Bill Rupp's being inducted into the cult, right? But you're not in it yet, so you don't know Drake's in it until you know the cult symbol of this cult is like a zqr, right? And you look at Drake's album and you see it's ZQR in the corner now, you know, from the East Coast. Oh, Drake's one of us. Right? Right.

[Bob's Lessons]

It's like a universal language.

[Tommy G]

Yes. They're speaking to each other, too. Yeah. To let them know, like, hey, we're on the same team. So that you know who you can trust and who you can't, Bill. And that's the big thing with the Masons, right? They have secret handshakes, they have secret meeting halls, they have secret things you can say, you know, it's. It's this secret club. But the reason, the other big thing about it, Bill, is the Satanism. If you really Google and look into, say, you're not going to find most of it on Google anymore because they wipe the whole Internet away. But if you look into Satanism in the Church of Satan, and really the more Satanic stuff, they have to. It's part of their religion. Anyone who is Satanic has to. It's part of the religion that if you are doing anything, you have to hide it in plain sight. You have to show what you're doing. And that's part of the Satanism culture that you can't just go do something evil. You have to leave a hint or a clue or a symbol. Correct, Bob?

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, it's like. It's like a. It's like a carmatic thing. But that's why we Talk about predictive programming, a lot of times is that they have to show it, you know, they'll put it in movies, they'll hide it in symbols, hide it in all different kinds of places to kind of, you know, foretell, you know, what's, what's going to happen, you know, on down the line so that the, I guess the karma is not on them because it's kind of like a high. Told you. I so, you know, I told you we were gonna do it, right? So that's why you'll see that a lot. But you know it. I do.

[Tommy G]

And not to cut you off, but the same thing they'll do with that bill, they'll hide the Satanism in the movies and the kid movies, right? Which, you know, which everyone's like, oh well, come on, it's a children's movie. They're not hiding it there. Just like David Hogue, a 22 year old who's been in this media spotlight forever is going to pretend like he didn't know what the Freemason symbol was. You know, it looks like that though.

[Bill Rupp]

Like you're, you're not supposed, but you.

[Tommy G]

Are, you're hiding it because he has an easy out that he didn't know what it was. I didn't know it was a freemason symbol. I'm 22, I don't know what the it was. So it's, it's called hiding it in plain sight. You know, like when they put adrenochrome references in what was the monster movie Monsters Inc. Yeah. It's so they could make it so blatant because everyone's gonna be like, really Bobby? Really? They have monsters drinking baby blood in Monsters Inc. Like if it's something innocent, you can make it more obvious because people won't believe it.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah. And that's. It was funny. Is that a children's move? Me made me understand what the real agenda of the green initiative is. That and Sonny with a cloud of chance of meatballs or something, part two. Like these random children's movies where I'm like, oh, they're trying to control the tech and the whole. Why are all these elites going after green energy? I think it was like cars 2 or cars 3 were like, they used a different fuel and whatever car used the different fuel, they used fucking radioactive like laser beams to take them out, you know, but only if you use this green energy. And the other thing about it was that once you started using this green energy, it was all controlled by this, this one company that all went all the way back to like basically the Queen of England. So like everything was controlled by the Queen of England. And this was in a fucking kids movie using, you know, directed energy weapons and green energy control. And it had like a secret society within it. I'm watching this whole fucking thing and they're just like revealing their plans in this obscure kids movie.

[Tommy G]

Bro, I just went and watched. Bill, what was the movie I watched with my niece and nephew recently? It was the sequel, Sonic the Hedgehog 2. And I watched. As I'm watching the movie, everyone turns into animals, right? Like they turn into like a dinosaur, a tiger, like the bad guys. The priest turns into a lizard, you know, like, I mean, it's like it turns into a giant reptile, right? I mean it's like, of course the, the Vatican is a lizard empire. The pope speaks behind a demonic statue of a half lizard. And the whole pope's all is looks exactly like a serpent's mouth. So of course the priest in the child's movie turns into a giant snake. Like, I mean, like, it's just so obvious when they do it. But Bill, look at you, right? Stranger Things, that's a kids kind of show, right? I mean everyone watches it. It's. It's more of a younger generation, put it that way, right? Stranger Things isn't popular with.

[Bill Rupp]

My mom wouldn't say, you know what, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go against you on that. Because I don't think it is kids because there's so many references towards 80s movies.

[Tommy G]

Well, I mean, they do that in the kids movies too.

[Bill Rupp]

And it's in the 80s, so it is, I think.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, but the eight, I'll tell you this, the reason why it does appeal to kids is because the kids parents were alive in the 80s, so these kids are getting just spoon fed, fed 80s culture. That's why.

[Tommy G]

There you go. Stranger Things. The show's primary viewership is between the ages of 18 to 29. Yeah. So I mean, it's.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, but what do they know about 80s?

[Bob's Lessons]

Everything? Because here's what, I'll tell you why. Because a lot of my guitar students wanted to learn 80s music. And this was like, you know, five, six years ago. So they'd be in that 18 to 29 range now because their parents grew up listening to that stuff. And so that's what they're spoon feeding their kids is 80s culture. 8. That's why this is hot right now.

[Tommy G]

I'm going to put it this way. Whenever you have something that is fucking big Time, you know, like Stranger Things where There's so many CERN/MK Ultra/Philadelphia Experiments, slash kill by everything in it. You want it to appeal to the largest demographic possible, right? Bill? So their average demo is 18 to 29. That's the age that would watch a Netflix horror ish movie, right? They got the younger demo by putting fucking 8 year old kids in it. Right? So now you can go down below 18. And how do you get the adults to want to watch it? What was the one thing that made you want to watch it? Bill Compared to the other 40 shows I told you about, that it was set in the 80s.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah, it's awesome, right?

[Tommy G]

So you basically just swept every demo. Now you have young kids which appeal to the young kids. You have the 18 to 29, which is the core gore Netflix show. And then you're getting the 30 to 70 year olds because they want the 80s nostalgia. You just swept the board.

[Bill Rupp]

I wonder how they ended up picking that song that Max was listening to, that Running up the Hill song, Bush. Because every other song in that show was a song that we all know.

[Tommy G]

You know, it was a big one.

[Bill Rupp]

And this no one had ever heard of.

[Tommy G]

So I'd love Bobby to analyze that.

[Bill Rupp]

So obscure. And it became one of the everywhere music top on itunes.

[Tommy G]

Not one of the top. It's still there.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, it's crazy, dude.

[Tommy G]

That girl, Jax. There's this girl, she's adorable and I'm really actually happy for her. There's this girl at Jax on Instagram. She's just a cute little normal girl. She sang that song. I don't know if you guys have heard it. The Victoria's Secret song. You know, where she babysits a kid and it went to like number one on the charts. And now she has 11 million Tik Tok followers. And it's cute and she seems like adorable, like just a good person. But when she showed Bill, Just yesterday or the day before she showed her song went to number one on the charts. Guess what song she took the place of. Kate Bush running up the hill. Still, it's still number one.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, it's. It's insane. Like how she just like the money she must have received in the. In the royalties.

[Tommy G]

Why that song? Yeah, I mean, that song does something to you. And this is where I'd want Bobby to dig into it. Like, I'm sure there's some sort of hypnotic, you know, hertz level or something that Bobby could dive into being a musician with that song.

[Bob's Lessons]

That could be it. But you could, you know, you could replace that with a million ones. I know. I remember listening to an interview with her where she said the, the theme of the song was like that it had to do with a man and a woman who can't really understand each other's positions. So it's about switching roles within a relationship, you know, where the man has to see what the woman does. A woman has to see what a man does. I mean, Eleven herself is pretty androgynous as far as.

[Tommy G]

Oh no, that's not pretty.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

Like she's literally looks like a boy.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

So like when they, they shave her head and Bill, we said it. You don't see any sign of her body? Bob, sorry to cut you off. No, no, you don't see any sign of her body because she's got a nice body for a little girl. I mean she's 18, 19 years old or whatever, but she's not a flat chested little girl, you know, and they make her look like that the whole show until the last season where they actually start showing a little bit of her body. When that whole controversy came out because everyone was saying they can't wait till 11 turns 18 so we can fuck her type thing. But they intentionally made her a shaved head, androgynous little flat chested boy.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right?

[Tommy G]

Yeah.

[Bill Rupp]

You couldn't tell the whole first season, basically. What?

[Tommy G]

You wouldn't even know if she was a boy or girl if you just saw the scenes of her in the lab.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. As a matter of fact, I think who's I watching? They were watching for the first time and thought they thought it was a.

[Tommy G]

Boy the first season. That's the thing. You got to remember the first season. Like she got older and they can't control what she looks like.

[Bill Rupp]

My mom thought it was a boy. I thought it was a boy in the beginning. You know, everyone does. And it's just crazy.

[Tommy G]

It's.

[Bill Rupp]

When you look back at the hospital or the, the, the just where they were with all the kids, they're all dressed in the same outfit. Like they wore that, that nightgown, the, the hospital gown the whole time and they all had the same haircut. So they're making everybody look non gender, like the same.

[Tommy G]

That's part of the, it's part of the agenda that we always talk about. The androgynous. I mean Larry Johnson does the best with it, I think of anyone. Yeah, but that androgynous beta male agenda that's been going on.

[Bill Rupp]

I saw something on Tick Tock today, you know.

[Tommy G]

No, no, you were on Tick Tock.

[Bill Rupp]

Love the talk.

[Tommy G]

Wow.

[Bill Rupp]

And I got so pissed. So it was a woman putting this stuff on a man's hairy leg and making all the hair go away.

[Tommy G]

Like, you know, ripping there or something.

[Bill Rupp]

Like some stuff like that. And it got me so mad that like, I'm like, aren't there any alpha males left in this world where the. A hairy leg is accepted?

[Tommy G]

Nope.

[Bill Rupp]

Like you can't even have a hairy leg anymore. Like.

[Bob's Lessons]

I understand.

[Bill Rupp]

Listen, I was.

[Tommy G]

Bill used to shave his chest and all that. If you would have ever shaved your legs, I would have fucked up.

[Bill Rupp]

Never shaved my legs, Tommy. I never, never did my arms. Never did my.

[Bob's Lessons]

Think that's the next trend. Because I mean, if you think about it like, you know, women, you know, didn't have to shave as much and now it's like full body Brazilian wax.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, you gotta shave your body. If you're getting them skinny jeans on. Imagine with hairy legs. I mean, that would hurt like hell.

[Tommy G]

Fair enough. That really makes sense to you? There's no way. Okay. I'm like, please tell me that. I'm sorry. Sarcastic. Because that was amazing.

[Bob's Lessons]

Fair point noted. The, the, you know, the interesting thing with the, with the Kate Bush thing is she wanted to call it Deal with God and, and they wouldn't do it because some of the. The countries wouldn't play it. That's what they said. So they had to change the title. So I think that's an interesting show.

[Tommy G]

Is they needed the mass appeal of it too.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

But the, the one thing I will say, here's a prediction and you are going to see five years from now, not just the libtard girls. What's going to come back in style is hairy girls. You're going to see everyone meet in the middle. Girls are gonna have hairy armpits. Girls are gonna have hairy arms. I mean, I don't know if they'll.

[Bob's Lessons]

Go as this is your deal. This is your switching places. You're talking about this right now. You know, seeing the other side.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. This is like, I don't know if they'll go as far as mustaches and beers and stuff because they still need to be attractive to push their agenda because sex sells and they know that. But you're going to see Harry Armpits come back. You're going to see Harry Legs, Harry Bush's, Harry everything come back and you're going to see the guys go fully shaved. So you're going to see the transition and everyone's going to meet in the middle where you're not going to be able to tell the difference between a guy and a girl. And you already kind of can't. I mean, every time I order Uber eats, I don't know if I should say thank you, babe, or thank you, bro. I have no idea. So I just say thank you.

[Bill Rupp]

You really shouldn't be calling women babes.

[Tommy G]

Call everyone babe. Everyone babe. Honey, sweetheart, I'm old school gangster Bill.

[Bob's Lessons]

Rep. Old school G. Have you, have you gotten. Has anybody ever commented on that? Like, ah, don't call me babe.

[Tommy G]

Shockingly, no.

[Bill Rupp]

No.

[Tommy G]

What about dying for it?

[Bob's Lessons]

That proves everything.

[Tommy G]

I have the perfect.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, I mean, that's why the WNBA fails one of your neighbors.

[Bill Rupp]

You told me.

[Tommy G]

Well, no, she commented because. No, I called her babe as like a. We were in a fight, like we're in an argument. So I said, okay, sweetheart, you know, like, that's what. But, but Bobby's. Bobby's talking about like just a random, like, thanks on like a harmless. Don't call me that. You know, whatever this was because this was telling me to move my car and I wanted to demeanor. So I said, all right, sweetheart, in front of her boyfriend.

[Bob's Lessons]

Thanks, sugar tits.

[Tommy G]

Thanks, sugar tits. But, but no, I'm dying for it because, you know, I want. I, I, I. Oh, I would dream for that. Like, even when I wasn't wearing the mask, I never really had anyone confront me. I think I just have this magnet. Magnetism, Bob.

[Bob's Lessons]

You know, like, it's like just sexual.

[Tommy G]

Force field around me where just like, you know, people don't with me. They just want to, you know, me and they let me get away with. It's like, I don't know, it's like, you know what it could be transition coming. Bill, you ready? I mean, it's almost like I have some sort of witchcraft, which, by the way. Oh, what maga means in Latin.

[Bob's Lessons]

Here we go.

[Tommy G]

Did you know want to take a gas, Bill? What maga means in Latin? You can Google it right now. What does.

[Bill Rupp]

I wouldn't even begin to know.

[Tommy G]

I mean, we were just talking about MK Ultra and Ultra Trump. Maga actually means witch or sorcerer for the Maga movement. And on top of that, did you know what the highest level. Bobby, I don't even know if you know this what the highest level in the Church of Satan is.

[Bob's Lessons]

Uncle Danny.

[Tommy G]

Yes. So it is Maga. It is Maga. That is the name for the highest.

[Bill Rupp]

Level Trump or whoever may.

[Bob's Lessons]

Wait, hold up, hold up. You said Maga is The highest level of the Church of Satan.

[Tommy G]

It's the fifth level.

[Bob's Lessons]

I gotta look this up.

[Tommy G]

Look it up.

[Bill Rupp]

So you think that MAGA came first or the words came first?

[Tommy G]

So I have. And again, everyone. Bobby's even said it to me on the pod before. Okay. Educating liberals, right? Like, listen, I walked you through my phases of Trumpism.

[Bob's Lessons]

No, all I wanted was an apology for you going after educating liberals.

[Tommy G]

No, I do. I won't, because I won't because of the same reason I'm fucking with Danny. Because it took me a full year and a half of research and diving into the other side to get to where I'm at right now. That kid flipped overnight. He went from fucking Jesus thumping Trump is our savior to. He saw one video about fucking vaccine.

[Bob's Lessons]

He was still Jesus thumping as he was. He was just saying, trump's the Antichrist.

[Tommy G]

But he literally flipped. Flipped from Trump is Jesus. He was the one I used to make fun of for saying Trump is the savior. Like, he was the guy. Right?

[Bob's Lessons]

Right.

[Tommy G]

And then literally, it was Bob. It was one little video that was kind of stupid about hydroxychloroquine or something. Stupid video. And then he flipped and said, I just realized Trump's the Antichrist. Like, nah, bro, you can't. I'm a year and a half into this journey right now of slowly learning and distancing and getting emotionally aware.

[Bob's Lessons]

Some people are slow learners.

[Tommy G]

But you can't go from, like, Trump's Jesus to Trump's the Antichrist. Literally. I was in a group thread with him.

[Bob's Lessons]

Girl, if your wife cheated on you, you would go full trust mode to full divorce mode really quick. Correct.

[Tommy G]

No.

[Bob's Lessons]

Oh, it would take you a year to realize.

[Tommy G]

Three weeks, four weeks. But, I mean, that's a. That's a different story, though, because if I was literally all in that she basically as tight as he was with Trump, it would be like if my mom did something bad to me.

[Bob's Lessons]

If your mom cheated on you.

[Tommy G]

Not fucking cheated on me, Bob.

[Bob's Lessons]

I'm sorry.

[Tommy G]

No, but, like, if my mom stabbed me in the back.

[Bob's Lessons]

Okay.

[Tommy G]

Right. Like, I would just flip. Like, my mom, she's the. She's a whore. Like, it would take me a while. It would. Like my dad. Right. Like, my dad fucked me over, and it still took me a couple years to distance myself and say, fuck him. He's the piece of shit. So, like, that was my thing. My whole thing is I've never gone in, and I don't think anyone listening has. Has really gone like, bob, did you check the Satanism thing.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yes.

[Tommy G]

What does it say?

[Bob's Lessons]

Yes, Mag. So the levels are the higher.

[Tommy G]

It's the fifth degree.

[Bob's Lessons]

Registered member, active member, witch, warlock, second.

[Tommy G]

Degree, priestess, priest, third high priestess, third.

[Bob's Lessons]

Magistra, magister, and maga magus is the fifth degree. So you are.

[Tommy G]

So it's the highest degree in the Church of Satan.

[Bob's Lessons]

High priest, high priestess, yeah. Okay, now how is that never mentioned?

[Tommy G]

This is where I'm about to go. So for me, I never dug into the darkness of Maga and Trump for the simple fact that I was of the opinion, as you were you, Bob, during fucking 2016, when. Listen, right? We were all in, right? We're emotionally all in. And when you're all in on something, you kind of close your eyes. Eyes. I love this. This guy's going to cause chaos in 2016. None of us loved Trump. We all thought Trump was an asshole. We loved what he was doing, right? So it was like, dude, I love that he's like the guy that you knew was a kind of jerk off on tv. Billionaire, rich idiot. But he's. He's on our team now. Let's go. This is cool. Like, like Antonio Brown joins the jets, right? But I never looked into it because then by 2018 and 19, when I saw the 5G bill, that was the first thing that kind of threw a flag up for me when Trump. I don't know if a lot of you listening know this, but you might want to check this. When Trump went out and said that the race to 5G was the most important race to our entire future in our existence as humans. Okay? And my girl Crystal, Teeny, who you know, I love like, more than anyone, I mentioned this to her a few weeks ago because she kind of was on me like, yo, what's up with this, Trump? Like, like, talk to me. And I told her that, and she was like, oh, like, you know, like, she, like. And it's not her fault. She was just like, Jesus Christ, I didn't even know that. And then I sent her the articles that he passed the 5G bills, slipped it right through all of under our noses. Because keep in mind, back then, we thought there was a plan, so we gave him the pass for everything. We thought there was an excuse for everything. So.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, maybe Trump's in charge of the vaccines and the GO and the military.

[Tommy G]

And yeah, we believed it a little bit, too. Like, I'm not gonna say that we weren't involved in that.

[Bob's Lessons]

I'm making fun of myself.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. Like, I mean, dude, we fell victim to it, too. And so that's why when people like, how are you just finding all this out now? It's like. Because literally I fell for the same shit you're still falling for that I.

[Bill Rupp]

Realized were out there.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. And I really believed that there was. And keep my. Me and Bobby were not even close to as deep as anyone else. Like we were the ones on the podcast listening to June 2020 podcast Breaking the Matrix, first 45 minutes. If you don't believe me saying Q's a great information source. It's phenomenal. But you know I'm not in on this whole fucking like listen on movement.

[Bill Rupp]

I saw the leaders of your so called movement HBO special.

[Tommy G]

Well, I mean, come on.

[Bill Rupp]

So you got guys with like missing.

[Tommy G]

Arms and mashed potato guy with no bones.

[Bill Rupp]

Guys. Yeah, guys you don't leave their basements. Like, come on, bro, I saw the people on that, on that video.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, listen, that's like, that's like saying. That's like judging New Jersey by the Jersey shore, right? Like they're gonna cast the most ridiculous people for something like that. But at the same token, you are right, because in retrospect, looking back, these were a bunch of people that I should have never even been associated with at all because it became a cult. And that's when we stepped away from it, when it got culty. But I never looked into Trump deep because I always knew he was an asshole and I didn't care. And I was always like, listen, if he's bad, we're totally fucked because I know fucking Hillary and Biden are fucking devil. So there's no point in even going down this road. Let him win the election and then maybe I'll start looking into it. So then when he lost, it made it's easy. But I mean the that's coming out that I'm finding is just like. Like you said, Bob, how does no one talk about this? How is no everyone ignoring this? That MAGA is the fifth degree in the church of Satan, that his whole entire apartment is a Masonic temple, that he literally has the Apollean God Apollo, the fucking fallen angel of destruction painted on his fucking ceiling. Yeah, like, like this is. It's all right there in front of us if we stare at it. He's got an inverted pyramid of trees on Trump Tower. He's hold it like, I don't even want to give the whole thread away, but it's all right fucking there in front of us. And now that you step away from it and look back, it's just clear as fucking day. I mean, even if you go back to his history, Bob, I mean, think about an evil person in the world, the Rothschilds. Well, Wilbur Ross, who's the king of bankruptcy, literally bailed Trump out of one and a half billion dollars in Atlantic City, then served as the Secretary of commerce for the Trump administration from 2017-21. He literally was the head of bankruptcy for the fucking Rothschild organization. That's where his career started. George Soros. George Soros was spent Christmas Eve with Trump. Bailed him out. He gave him $160 million for the fucking Chicago skystraper. Klaus Schwab. We just saw the Klaus Schwab video where Trump is saying that Klaus Schwab has done an amazing job. And fucking Trump said the biggest issue that faces America is climate change. Bill Gates. Everyone wants to talk about Bill fucking Gates. People offered Bill Gates a fucking White House position as the science advisor, and Gates turned it down. And then in 2020, he donated 1.16 billion to Gavi, which is Gates's foundation for vaccine alliance. Marina Abramowicz, bro. Marina fucking Abramovich. This is a direct quote. I have the clip. Have you heard this?

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Tommy G]

When she spoke with shamans and she said the shamans told her that Donald Trump becoming president was the best thing to ever happen, that Trump is the magician who will bring about a worldwide awakening. This is Marina Abramovich, the high priestess of Satanism. Bill Gates is saying Trump needs to be let back on Twitter. Like, what are we doing? How are we ignoring all this? And, Bill, when you said, how does. And I'll end here, because I know I ranted for too long, Bill, when you said, how does Danny flip flop back. I get it, bro. I 100% get it. Because we are. If my bro. If my father showed up at my door, I would love to say I would punch him in the face. But you know what I'd probably do? I'd probably end up sitting on a fucking couch with him going, bro, what the. Because there's that. You're emotionally tied to that entity. So the second it's easy to say I'm out on Trump when you're not seeing Trump on TV all the time. But the second you see him talking and you get reinvigorated and you remember the good times of 2016, and you remember how accepted in your whole movement and all that, you get sucked back into the cult. It's the same reason people get back with exes. It's the same reason you got to delete your ex's phone number. You can't even see a text from them. You can't even let them back into your visual spectrum because you're gonna fall back in. And that's what's happening to Danny right now. He just saw Trump a couple times, and you heard what he said. They raided his house. Now he's all in Trump. Because now he's like, oh, no, you're not going to do that to my boy. And that's why these people get sucked back in. And that's the hardest part for me, because I see Trump on TV and I still want to be a Trump supporter. I still got the bobbleheads in my closet. I want to do it, but I can't let myself. And that's why I understand it. Sorry for going so long. But that's just the beginning of the thread. That's the beginning. That's like 8% what I just gave you.

[Bill Rupp]

Go ahead, Bobby. I think if Trump got access to Twitter again. I do believe you, Tommy. I think he would re. Get people invigorated again, go back in, and I think he would get you.

[Tommy G]

No, he'll never get me. Well, here's the. Here's the reason why. I'll say, and you're right. You're right.

[Bill Rupp]

Twitter. I think he'd be able to pull you back in.

[Tommy G]

You're right, Bill. Here's why I say you're right.

[Bob's Lessons]

Tom Maga.

[Tommy G]

You see me tweeting, ultra Maga, let's go. I've been very calculated, and people keep saying, why didn't you drop the thread yet? Why haven't you told us the thing? Everyone thinks I'm just lazy. It's already written. I'm reading off it right now. I literally just read all that to you. So it's written. I just. I need to make sure and need it. I should say that I 100% know that once I go this route, there is no turning back. Like, once you go down this dark path, there's no turning back. I'm isolating myself. I'm ostracizing myself from a lot of people, a lot of listeners, a lot of supporters, a lot of fans, and I'm ready, and that's why I'm doing it. But a month and a half ago, Bill. Yes, yes. Because when he poked his head first out and I was on him, I was pulled back in. I've gone so deep and so dark down this rabbit hole that Jesus Christ himself couldn't pull me out of it and get me back on the Trump train. Nothing can. Because now I'm like the two people on the other side, though, where no matter what he does good, I know he's up to something bad. So. No. But yes. A month and a half ago.

[Uncle Danny]

Yes.

[Bob's Lessons]

That's interesting. So would you be.

[Tommy G]

Man, Bill, that break the emotional tie? I had to break it and I finally.

[Bob's Lessons]

Are you on an anti Trump pendulum?

[Tommy G]

No, no. Now, I mean, I probably will swing that way. Yeah, I'll probably swing and I mean, listen, we have to understand, Bob, that. That nothing is linear. Right. Nothing is black and white. I'm probably swinging towards an anti Trump pendulum and I'll end up somewhere in a little more state of normalcy.

[Bob's Lessons]

So you're saying right now you're shaving your legs and then eventually you'll end up with just partial hair, maybe the armpit shave.

[Tommy G]

I'll never shave my legs. So right now I'm looking. Looking at all negatives and no positives.

[Bob's Lessons]

So that, that's important though, in any debate tactic.

[Tommy G]

Anyway, I think you have to take the other side.

[Bob's Lessons]

So, I mean, you know, the other thing was Ivanka Trump's husband, you know, putting the bid on 666 Fifth Ave.I mean.

[Tommy G]

Oh, you mean the guy none of us Trump, none of us trust at all. How about his other son, Don Jr. Dating Gavin Newsom Sacks? Nothing weird there. Carry on.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, it didn't. Didn't. Donnie's former wife died this year, too.

[Tommy G]

Yes, yes. Donald Trump. Donald Trump's wife died right before.

[Bob's Lessons]

Maybe that was a sacrifice to the beast, you know, and she was.

[Tommy G]

Bill, wasn't she supposed to testify?

[Bill Rupp]

Oh, Trumps were. And they pushed it back.

[Tommy G]

That's right. The Trumps were supposed to testify. Well, and because the mom died, they didn't have to do it. We won't even mention how Ivanka Trump was in the WEF as one of the young.

[Bob's Lessons]

I think you just mentioned it with.

[Tommy G]

Trudeau at the same time. Oh, did I? And Gavin Newson, you just mentioned. Sorry, I. I didn't mean to.

[Bob's Lessons]

Crooked finger Nome.

[Tommy G]

Damn.

[Bob's Lessons]

Pedo finger nome.

[Tommy G]

Carry on, Bob. What were you saying? So you said the opposite side of a debate.

[Bob's Lessons]

I don't. Oh, I was just saying in. In debate anyway, you know, like I. When you're in a pendulum, like Kurt says, or just when you're looking for one side of the argument, that's where the confirmation bias occur occurs and.

[Tommy G]

Right.

[Bob's Lessons]

I fell huge victim to it. I always do. I still do. Where you ignore anything that. That goes against what your claims are. But this is a Healthy exercise, even for people that are strong maggots. Just like, like get out of your comfort zone and just, Just, you know, find out as much as, like. I mean, this, this Church of Satan thing, it could be nothing. It could be something.

[Tommy G]

I got a lot more, but, you know.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, for somebody that, that, that took Latin for a very long time. It's the root base of a lot of languages. So those, Those words are. Are permanently ingrained. That's why lawyers and doctors use it. So it is a pretty significant that. That was the word choice. I mean. But here's the other thing. Reagan used it. You know, Reagan used Make America Great again.

[Tommy G]

So he. Reagan. Actually, Romanelli is a guy that I should have you talk to about Reagan. I used to have Reagan's picture. I had Scarface, Sinatra and Reagan. When you walked in, I took Reagan down. My Reagan got stolen from me by a girl. She stole my Reagan picture on the way out of my apartment four years ago. But I. The reason she stole it was because I put it in the bathroom. I took it out. It was on the floor.

[Bill Rupp]

One of the most loved presidents.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. But if you dig in, dude, he literally was the one dumping, cracking guns on the street and Iran Contra. Like. Like there, There's a dark, dark side to the Reagan administration that no one talks about.

[Bob's Lessons]

I mean, and he was a. You want to talk about.

[Tommy G]

What was that, Bill?

[Bill Rupp]

He was an actor, literal actor.

[Tommy G]

Zelensky.

[Bob's Lessons]

That's the Zelensky guy. I mean.

[Tommy G]

Yeah.

[Bob's Lessons]

You know, I just.

[Bill Rupp]

Right.

[Tommy G]

Presidents aren't elected, they are selected. I think the only one that I really believe. Bob. And I'm sorry.

[Bob's Lessons]

No, go ahead.

[Tommy G]

The only one that I really believe was elected was jfk and he got shot and killed.

[Bob's Lessons]

I don't think he was elected. I think the Mafia got him.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah. I think he was put in there.

[Tommy G]

Well, yeah. However it was. He wasn't fucking one of the cabal puppets that were put. I think Nixon murdered him.

[Bob's Lessons]

I think Nixon got in there relatively legit and that's why Watergate happened. You know, if you go back far.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. If you go back pre 80s, they killed way beyond the ideological subversion times when, you know, everything was Internet, tv, media and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. I mean, if you go back even before jfk, everything could have been legit because they didn't have control of us. What did they control?

[Bob's Lessons]

I think they always have. I just think.

[Tommy G]

I think how can you really control someone if you don't. Like, now we are fully surveillance 24 hours a day. Like back then, what did they have the papers?

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, I think it would be. Okay. Is it easier to dump a body in a crowded city or out in the woods?

[Tommy G]

Out in the woods, Right.

[Bob's Lessons]

Because nobody's gonna have record of it or nobody will.

[Tommy G]

Oh, no, no. Okay.

[Bob's Lessons]

So similar to where it'd be easier to rig election during a dark age where everything's not being surveilled.

[Tommy G]

Okay, okay. I thought you meant that the public vote. They had the public manipulated, but no. Yeah, they had. It was much easier to rob a bank 50 years ago than it is now.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right, right. So I think. I mean, honestly, if you really look even like all the way back to, you know, when we came up with the Fed, you know, I mean, it was back then, it was with, you know, like, I think Andrew Jackson, who is the most, quote unquote, notoriously, you know, maligned president. I think if you really look at the history of Andrew Jackson, who fought the Rothschilds and fought the banks, that was legitimate president. I think Calvin Cooley Coolidge, who is one of my favorite presidents and one of the first real, you know, just independent president. You can call him libertarian or whatever. I think he was legit. And that's why he didn't run for re election. And then after that you had the. The Depression, 1929. So after Calvin Coolidge. So I. I think there have only been a couple. Maybe that didn't come from that tree and anyone that didn't come from that tree that either unpersoned or they. They went after. So I think that's important. And that's like my rabbit hole right now is going. Is looking at musicians that have either died or gotten taken out. There's a common theme with a lot of them is that they own the rights to their music. So like, if you own the rights to yourself or your music or your art or you don't have an IOU or you're not indebted to anybody, that's a problem. So if you get elected president and you don't have an IOU on your back and you don't have a puppeteer.

[Tommy G]

Mel Gibson did.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, exactly. They want you out, dude. You know, so then Mel Gibson went out and owned his own company, man.

[Tommy G]

And made his own studio and everything. Yeah, his own production company, Bobby.

[Bill Rupp]

I think, though, back in the day, the presidents, when you say they're. I think kind of also, they were chosen also because y. They were all pretty much military, like famous military leaders.

[Tommy G]

Like they did something generals and stuff.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah. Like you were saying, Andrew Jackson, he was like, he was some type of general or something in the arm, in the, in the military where he gained fame and notoriety and.

[Bob's Lessons]

But how else are you going to gain fame back then? I mean, it's not like there were movies, celebrities, war. War was the way you got notoriety. It was really the only thing that was talked about, you know, so it's hard to gain.

[Tommy G]

No, it's true. Even if you go back to like the barbarian times and stuff like that, if you look at the leaders of any civilization and any group, whether you're watching it through movies or you're studying history, it was always the most powerful Alpha, you know, who took control. Because like Bob just said, that's the only way you're gonna gain powers with people being afraid of you. And that's the exact opposite of what they're doing today. They're trying to reverse that power system to a selected hierarchy and they're trying to wipe out all the alpha males, wipe out all the threats, wipe out the Mel Gibsons, wipe out anyone. You know, the JFK is anyone who has power, wipe out the Mafia, you know, anyone who's alpha and has power. They want to take you out because they're trying to flip the actual old school power structure upside down to where now the manipulative nerds like Bill Gates have all the fucking power.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, I just, I, here's what I always say. Anybody that throughout the course of history, like President Wise, that is known as being a good president, look on the other side just like, you know, just like what you're doing with Trump. But like anybody that's maligned as a president, try to see the other side of it. That's why the Angel Michael, your Michael Jackson theory. Yes, the Michael Jackson theory. But like go look into fucking, go look into fucking Lincoln, you know, and I know Ben Franklin wasn't a president, but look into Ben Franklin. Like a lot, a lot of these people were in secret societies. Like a lot of these people, like they didn't care about the slaves. They were in secret societies, they were mobbed up, they did dark ass occult that you know, if we're unearthed today, you know, would be like the, the topic of a no mercy episode.

[Tommy G]

Everything back then was, was skull and bones level cults and Masonic. I mean, dude, the Freemasons, I mean we talk about Freemasons. How did the Freemason, like what were the Freemasons when they first started? They were the most talented and skilled eccentric stonesmen and builders because like Bob said, there wasn't Many main ways to get famous. But if you could build these exquisite temples and stuff, you became the most sought after people in the world and the most famous people in the world.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right.

[Tommy G]

And that masonry started long before any of this.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yep.

[Tommy G]

It's been going on forever. That's, that's the way that they knew each other, by the way they would tag each other and tag their, their art. And that's why you, you see the Masonic going on right now that no one really ties to that anymore. Let me read you something here, Bill. What's your, what's your final stance on Trump? Like where are you at? Because like I've said, I went so deep down the one side and now I've gone so deep out the other side where I don't, I'm still figuring out what I think his whole role in this. I know he's bad in my mind, that doesn't make him bad. You don't have to believe it. We could still be friends and disagree on this. I know he's a puppet and I'm starting to predict it, which is very important, I think Bob, to come to your conclusion. And then once you come to your conclusion, no one can say I'm not well researched on both sides. Right. I mean I know everything about the dark side over the last year and a half and I know everything about being pro Trump for a year and a half. So if there's one thing that no one can ever accuse me of, it's being under researched on this topic right now. It's just a matter of can I emotionally put myself in a place where I could detach from any emotional ties to either side and be rational about it. But I mean, my favorite thing is that most of his followers are devout Bible thumping Christians. And would you like to read some descriptions of the Antichrist which I am not even on this train. I'm not on the whole biblical prophecy train. I'm not off it. But I, I don't lean on that. Like I, it's too interpretive for me. But here's some traits of the Antichrist described in the Bible. I can read you intelligent Revelations 13:18 and Daniel 7, 8. Charismatic speaker Daniel 7, 8, Revelations 13:5. Basically all you got to do is read Daniel and Revelations and you have every characteristic that you need of Obama, of Trump and Obama. Yes, but, but here's the thing. Everyone ties these to Obama. Let's see how they fit with Trump. We know they all fit with Obama. Intelligent Obama, Trump, charismatic speaker Obama, Trump, crafty politician Obama Trump distinct physical appearance. Obama, Trump. I mean Trump definitely more than Obama there. Military genius. Really Neither Obama or Trump in that one. Economic genius. I mean, I would say more Trump than Obama. Fucked. Is Obama done economically? Right. Trump's a billionaire. Blasphemer, liar. Definitely Obama. Trump utterly lawless in the Logians 2, 8. Fair to say that Trump doesn't follow any rules. Selfish, ambitious, egomaniac. That is in Daniel. 11:36, 37:2 and Thesalosians or whatever the fuck that is. 2, 4. Greedy, materialist. Have you ever seen Trump's penthouse? Controlling. I think that would fit. Proud and self exalting above God and everything else. He literally called himself the Messiah during his presidency. Okay, so the funniest part of it is there's one thing missing from this list. The Antichrist was actually unseated from his position of power and regained power after being unseated. Which is very interesting if you tie that to the presidency. So I'll ask you and Bill if you believe in the Antichrist, which I'm not saying I do or anyone else does. Does Trump fit those characteristics?

[Bill Rupp]

Listen, I think that.

[Tommy G]

Don't, don't, don't go emotional on whether you believe in the Antichrist. Does he fit those characteristics?

[Bill Rupp]

100. Yes.

[Tommy G]

Okay.

[Bill Rupp]

That's what you asked me if I like, I think he would be good for the country as a president. Again, I did vote for him the first time. I think he plays all sides of everything, which is good. He keeps people at bay. He works with the foreign, you know, foreign governments. He's awesome at that. But he's going to draw such a bigger divide in this country that he should not be president.

[Bob's Lessons]

Okay, Bobby, I think you just did like a horoscope reading that could have described 75% of all the wealthy, not only wealthy billionaires, but politicians.

[Tommy G]

So I think it's 90, honestly.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

So, and, and that's part of my point. Why do we take Trump out of the billionaires? Didn't we say all billionaires are pieces of shit? Why do we not include him?

[Bob's Lessons]

That's some Bernie Sanders. Like there should be.

[Tommy G]

Well, no, I mean, Bernie Sanders a piece of too he's, you know, but I mean, literally everyone will say we don't never trust a billionaire because you can't become a billionaire without stomping on Right. Souls.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right.

[Tommy G]

So I mean, selling a lot of souls. Right.

[Bob's Lessons]

Which means, you know, and Trump didn't. I don't, I don't disagree that. I'm just saying the, what you describe. Yes, it Sounds like Trump, but it sounds like 90% of the people that are in Trump's economic, you know, around his economic range or political range. You know, think of one person near Trump on either side that.

[Tommy G]

I mean, you can go Klaus Schwab and it's the same thing.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tommy G]

You can go Elon Musk Soros, intelligent speaker, crafty economic genius, liar, lawless face. Right.

[Bob's Lessons]

I could draw his face accurately.

[Tommy G]

Right. So. But my point is. But. And that's why I don't get caught up with the Antichrist thing. I'm just doing this as, as kind of like a little you. To all the people who preach that the Bible like Trump is this and that. And I'm fine with you believing the Bible, but then apply it to Trump. Why do we apply nothing to Trump? Why? On fucking Instagram, on the 3rd of August, Bill Instagram Truth Social posted a picture of Donald Trump and all it said on it was 88 2022. And then on 88 2020, 2020 22, Mar a Lago got raided. That's not weird.

[Bill Rupp]

No, it's insane.

[Tommy G]

Five days before, all it said was 882022 from True Social. If that was Hillary Clinton and that was on there, the Ultra Maga retards would be going batshit. They would be drooling. If that was Bill Gates drooling, if that was Joe Biden drooling, if that was Hillary Clinton, but it's Trump. So you know what they're saying? Do you want to know what they're saying right now, Bob, on Truth Social?

[Bob's Lessons]

What, to explain it? Yeah, but to make. Are they making an excuse?

[Tommy G]

Yeah, I didn't think they were saying anything else.

[Bob's Lessons]

So something else happened on 88. Maybe.

[Tommy G]

Wait, wait till you hear this. Like, wait till you hear how fucking crazy this is. Trump set debate. He set a trap for the FBI to come raid him so that he could expose everything that they're doing and rally America. They now have nothing else to say. Except he knew the. Now they're.

[Bob's Lessons]

He knew the raid was coming.

[Tommy G]

The raid was coming.

[Bob's Lessons]

How do you set a Trapped for a raid?

[Tommy G]

I mean, Bobby, it's fucking insane. They go, dude, you don't even need to go to Truth Social. Go to the Post. Like, go to that post and read the comments and you'll see everyone writing Trump sent the bait. Trump set the trap. Trump knew they were going to step on their own dick. Now he knows he's going to win the election because now everyone knows they're after him. He did it on purpose. No one else thinks it's weird, Bob. That and Bill, think about this. What, Bill, what's the reason they raided Trump's home? Like, what are they telling us the reason? What do they need to go get?

[Bill Rupp]

They want evidence, right?

[Tommy G]

They had. They had documents, right, that he wasn't supposed to have, right, Bob?

[Bob's Lessons]

Sure.

[Tommy G]

That's what they're saying, that he had documents from the White House, from his presidency, that were not supposed to be in his possession, and they said they've known about them for a long time. Who lets a president leave the White House with fucking secret documents he's not supposed to have and let him go a year and a half with these secret documents in his possession? And then right before the midterms, then they do it to cover up an inflation act. Go, now we need to go raid his fucking home to get these documents. I mean, it's the mot.

[Bill Rupp]

What can you possibly have, Tommy?

[Tommy G]

Right? So, Bill, it's either. It's either that important that you shouldn't have waited a year and a half, or it's irrelevant, which you didn't need to rate it.

[Bill Rupp]

It's like that movie, National Treasure. I bring everything back to movies. I think movies are the secret way that they get information out. You know what I'm saying? So National Treasure, all the presidents had that secret in the Library of Congress, you know, where they wrote all the secrets, like, you know, who killed Jeff? Everything that the presidents know, then they passed on to the other presidents, and only the presidents had that knowledge. So if Trump did have that, he wouldn't take it to his home. Like, right.

[Tommy G]

He's got a million.

[Bob's Lessons]

Somebody would know it. Like, if I walk in my living room and my Taylor guitar is missing, it wouldn't take me a year and a half to try to go looking for it, you know?

[Tommy G]

And then the day of the inflation, you're gonna go raid his own.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

Give me a break.

[Bill Rupp]

You just like Max Headroom.

[Tommy G]

I know. I've been hearing that a couple times. I don't know whose thing it is, but wow. I mean, it's just like. I mean, Bobby, at some point, we gotta start tying the fact that Roger Stone was doing seminars at the Nexium Call. We gotta start. We gotta start tying this stuff together. We can't just ignore it. I don't want to be educating liberals. I don't go as far as in the Trump is Satan and Trump's the Antichrist. I'm gonna point that shit out because everything should be laid out the same way. I Laid out everything good, I need to lay out everything bad that I've found. But at the same token, I mean I literally said this guy is gonna be the human false flag for the left. If I'm right and the first major fucking sign and chance to do it, the craziest thing happens. And I think the prediction that I have right now, if I'm right, he will announce that he's running for president in a matter of days. Days. He's going to ride this wave because all the Uncle Danny's are fucking back on the Trump train. This is all premeditated. This was all manipulated to get Trump back thriving. And by midterms in three months, guess what? No one's going to be talking about the economy or gas prices or inflation or Afghanistan or Ukraine or anything. What are they going to be talking about, guys?

[Bob's Lessons]

They're going to be talking about Trump. They're going to be talking, probably bring up Russiagate again. They'll bring up, you know, his, his taxes, they'll bring up everything. Grab him by the everything.

[Tommy G]

He'll do five more things to give them.

[Bob's Lessons]

Right?

[Tommy G]

Yep.

[Bill Rupp]

So do you, either of you think he is going to do any type of jail time?

[Bob's Lessons]

No, no.

[Bill Rupp]

Like 100.

[Bob's Lessons]

Did Nixon do jail time?

[Tommy G]

And I'll say this Bob, if he does, I'll probably have to say, okay, maybe I was wrong. You know.

[Bob's Lessons]

Has any president ever done jail time?

[Tommy G]

No, they're, they're exempt. Here's, they're, they're not even US citizens. That's what kind of got me fucking. Yeah, not citizens. What's the term Bill? The. Come on, the thing I was talking about that they're not citizens.

[Bob's Lessons]

Citizen.

[Tommy G]

No, the, the milk, the exemption where you can live here and you could own land and you could do everything but you don't have to pay taxes. No, no, no, it's some, there's another name for it. Oh whatever that's we'll call sovereign citizen. But it's, it's, there's another word for it.

[Bob's Lessons]

What got me off of all the like Super Maga, ultra Maga, whatever Q Tardism was when they just kept talking about perp walks. When is Obama going to get the perp walk? When's Hillary going to get the perp walk? And I kept thinking like, and I didn't say this out loud, I was thinking none of these motherfuckers are going to go to jail.

[Tommy G]

Like.

[Bob's Lessons]

And I just looked at history. What president or major political leader in our country has ever fucking seen jail time around before? Or after they've been in a position of power. You know, like we haven't seen this throughout the course of US history. Why would all of this all of a sudden start now?

[Bill Rupp]

So what's the whole point of all that thing that they did at night on prime time with the insurrection, blah, blah, blah. What's the point of it then?

[Bob's Lessons]

The point which. In which insurrection.

[Tommy G]

I honestly. Trials that were all over. Honestly, Bill, if my with. And I'll give Bob's with my theory that Trump's one of them. It's to keep Trump's name in the spotlight. It's to keep Trump relevant for when they unleash him again in August. And it's to keep Trump's name out there. Because guess what those Jan6 things did. They rallied Trump's base more than they hurt Trump. Right. Didn't everyone say it?

[Bill Rupp]

He gets his Twitter back. I'll believe you.

[Tommy G]

No, he doesn't need his Twitter back.

[Bill Rupp]

He just definitely needs it, Tommy.

[Tommy G]

I mean, he will possibly get it.

[Bob's Lessons]

No, he'll need it back by the election.

[Tommy G]

He'll get it. Oh, I thought you meant right now. No. Yeah. By 2024 he'll have his Twitter back. 100.

[Bob's Lessons]

I may add that to my false flag draft.

[Bill Rupp]

Yeah, I think he definitely gets it back.

[Bob's Lessons]

Hey, me and Bill had a good one for the false flag drive. We both think gas prices are going to go way down.

[Bill Rupp]

Yes. 100.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah. So I want to add that to it as well. Formally, I mean.

[Tommy G]

Hey, go get it. Go get it. I still can't find the name of this thing. It's driving me insane.

[Bill Rupp]

Sovereign citizen, though.

[Tommy G]

I think it's at another term.

[Bob's Lessons]

Illegal alien.

[Tommy G]

No, it's like illegal aliens. It's like the people from Ashkenazi. I'm not. I'm not. We're hanging. We're hanging up this podcast in a second. I'm not hanging up until I find it. So, anything else? You guys wanted to talk? Oh, oh. Bobby did something. I wanted to scream for once.

[Bob's Lessons]

I almost got scammed by an Indian.

[Tommy G]

We'll talk about that.

[Bob's Lessons]

Okay? We'll talk about it.

[Tommy G]

Keep an eye. Keep that. Keep that in your pocket. The. The one thing I wanted to say that cracks me up the fucking most, more than anything in the world. Do you see everyone in the maga movement and on the right screaming about how ridiculous it is to treat a fucking former president the way that they're treating Trump with this raid?

[Bob's Lessons]

Yes.

[Tommy G]

Meanwhile, these are the same exact fucking people who want Obama hanging from a noose. In the center. They want Hillary Clinton fucking wiped out of the fucking justice system. They want Bill Clinton out. They want Bush's head, they want every fucking politician's head. And guess what?

[Bob's Lessons]

They want them to go to fucking Gitmo. Gitmo.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. Trump did nothing. He got nothing accomplished. None. Not, not, not far as economy and stuff. I'm talking as far as Hillary going to jail, his first promise and Q's first post, nothing even came close to happening to any of them. And guess what? They've come closer with this raid than I think Trump has gotten with any of the fucking court hearings than anything else. And now the right's bitching that you can't treat a former president like this when exactly what they've been trying to do for five years is treat former sitting government officials exactly like this. It's so hypocritical. It's fucking insane.

[Bob's Lessons]

Because it's their guy, though.

[Tommy G]

Yeah, but that's fucking delusion, dude.

[Bob's Lessons]

Yeah.

[Tommy G]

Like, even when I loved Trump, I still never was like, oh, it's not right for the left to come after his taxes. I was saying, like, fuck them, let him go after his taxes. They ain't going to fucking show it to him. Like, fuck off. But I didn't think they were wrong to try and do it. Of course they're going to try and do it.

[Bob's Lessons]

I think it's actually a pretty standard procedure thing.

[Tommy G]

This is normal. The difference is you're just mad because they're pulling it off. But the fact is, the fact that they are allowed to raid his house. House. They do have him running through a ringer at a fucking trial right now. They do. Isn't that a little suspicious that they can never get away with this stuff? No president, and all of a sudden with Trump, they're almost making him a martyr for everyone. You know, like, let's make Trump the martyr right now for the movement. And now he's not even the bad guy anymore because even regular people are probably like, oh, I mean, come on, you can't raid the guy's home. That's ridiculous. Oh, come on. These Jan6 hearings, like, really, do we have to watch? Bill, you were saying it. Regular people were sick of the Jan.6 hearings, right?

[Bill Rupp]

Oh, yeah.

[Tommy G]

And regular people like your mom. And regular people would be like, come on, leave the guy alone. Right? Yeah, they're martyring Trump up. They're softening him up for his next prop up that they need to put him in place because he fucked it all up and was before. So now the Left is softening him up on purpose. The raid backfired. The fucking Gen 6 trial backfired. Or did it? Or was it intentional to have the result that it had? That's my question.

[Bob's Lessons]

Well, I think the only longest. The WWE is one of the longest, most entertaining shows in town, second only to Washington D.C. it's the best scripted, most well executed Kabuki theater show in town. And they, you know, you have your heels, you know, you have your heroes.

[Tommy G]

By the way, Vince McMahon, one of the 30 people Donald Trump followed on Twitter when he had a Twitter.

[Bob's Lessons]

Oh, there you go. Yeah. So, I mean, Vince McMahon, new show, U.S. national.

[Tommy G]

U.S. national. That's what it's called. Becoming a U.S. national. Okay, sorry, Bob.

[Bob's Lessons]

No, that's all. That's it.

[Tommy G]

No, no, no, keep going, dude. With the WWE thing.

[Bob's Lessons]

No, I mean, I was just saying, you know, like, you know, the only. The only thing better and better scripted and longer lasting than the WWE's Washington D.C. as far as best shows in town.

[Tommy G]

Yeah. And honestly, comparing Trump to the WWE makes sense because it's the only thing that you could blatantly know right in front of your face is fake and still.

[Bob's Lessons]

And still believe it.

[Tommy G]

And, like, it's not. And still believe it. Yeah. Yeah. That's what's going on right now. All right, Bill, Rob, final words.

[Bill Rupp]

Not much. Follow me @rup45Rob45 on my Twitter. I might be going to a Twitter war with Tommy G, so you never know.

[Tommy G]

Oh, Jesus.

[Bill Rupp]

Check it out.

[Tommy G]

I got enough people after me. I don't need my best.

[Bill Rupp]

Hey, he's a dick.

[Tommy G]

Bob's lessons. Final words.

[Bob's Lessons]

Buy my games and don't rape me.

[Tommy G]

Rape me. Bill rape. And I am.

[Bob's Lessons]

You call him Bill Rape.

[Tommy G]

Bill rape. Yeah, Bill. Right, That's. I was calling him on no Mercy plus.

[Bob's Lessons]

Bill.

[Tommy G]

Right. And that's what blew it up like that. Like, I didn't want to fuel it because it's like, you know, but it's just so fun.

[Bob's Lessons]

What episode is it? I have to listen to a whole hour of this. Tell me the minute, Mark.

[Tommy G]

Well, no, it was the intro. So the last episode Bill was on, so that's all you got to do. You got to find the two episodes Bill was on. Yeah, so. And it was right at the beginning where you hear Kurt go after him. And by the way, guys, go over to no Mercy plus, subscribe, download, if you haven't already.

[Bob's Lessons]

I'm good, but let me.

[Tommy G]

I'm gonna. He's so jealous.

[Bob's Lessons]

You know what's the greatest thing is. I so am not jealous.

[Tommy G]

That's what. Someone who was jealous. Let me see here. I don't know which one. I know it was on the last one. You'll hear him talk about Bill. So I don't know which one it was. You'll have to go check and find out. But yeah, there's nothing to be jealous of. But it's. It's pretty good. It is evolving. Pretty good. A lot of segments, a lot of fun segments, a lot of good time.

[Bob's Lessons]

It's too. It's too structured.

[Bill Rupp]

I mean, listen, I like the structure. I think.

[Tommy G]

I like. I'm getting used to it. I like it. I like this. This is better, like, this is better for a podcast for, like, someone who loves conspiracy. Right? That's great as like a appetizer because we don't put a podcast out every week. We wait till big things happen happen. And we actually like. I don't know why people get on us so hard about that. Like, I don't want to do a podcast just to do a podcast. Like, I'll do the no Mercy plus on a Sunday and we'll banter about some. Like, we waited until some real big was popping off. Alex Jones, the Inflation act, the Trump, Hillary, David Hogue, and we dropped a podcast. And it's two and a half hours and here you go. But if you want us to talk again on Tuesday about son's stupid, like, who cares? I don't know.

[Bob's Lessons]

Go listen to Plus.

[Tommy G]

You need a podcast. Yeah, go to the Plus. We'll talk about it on Sundays on the Plus. But. All right, anything. Let me do the final words again. Anything else, Bill?

[Bill Rupp]

Nope, that's it.

[Tommy G]

All right, Bobby, anything else?

[Bob's Lessons]

Don't write me don't rate.

[Tommy G]

Bobby. 2 hours and 30 minutes. You guys should stay off our backs a little bit now. That should buy us about 10 days before we got to drop another one. Or maybe Trump will do something crazy. Crazy. But that was the beginning of that would keep mine. That was the beginning of the Trump information that I will be dropping for you. Probably gave a little more than I wanted to there, but hopefully that'll wet your whistle so I could stop getting 500 fucking tweets about. When are you doing the fucking Trump podcast for Bill Rupp, Uncle Danny who made a little fucking cameo for the first time in a while. And Bob's lessons. I am Tommy G. Good luck. Stay questioning. Messi is for the weak. We do not train to be merciful here. A man face you, he is enemy. Enemy deserve no mercy.