Noble Blood: "Æthelstan and a United England" (w/ David Woodman) — Detailed Summary
Podcast: Noble Blood
Host: Dana Schwartz
Guest: Professor David Woodman, Cambridge University
Episode Release: October 14, 2025
Main Theme: Exploring Æthelstan's largely overlooked but foundational role in uniting England, marking the birth of the English nation, and examining his legacy and reign.
Episode Overview
This episode dives deep into the life and legacy of King Æthelstan, whom many historians now regard as the first true King of England. Professor David Woodman, author of The First King of England, joins Dana Schwartz to discuss Æthelstan’s achievements, the complexities of early medieval succession, and why his vital role in history remains so underappreciated. The conversation weaves historical context, personal anecdotes, and the challenge of piecing together history from sparse medieval sources.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Æthelstan: The Forgotten Founder of England
- Æthelstan’s Achievement:
- United the kingdoms of Wessex, Mercia, Northumbria, and East Anglia for the first time.
- “He becomes the first king of the West Saxon line ever to have brought together all of the formerly independent kingdoms... and creates the kingdom of the English for the first time.” (David Woodman, 01:36)
- United the kingdoms of Wessex, Mercia, Northumbria, and East Anglia for the first time.
- Year 927: "Birth of England"
- Following the death of Viking king Sitrich in York, Æthelstan takes control and secures loyalties from surrounding kingdoms.
- “For me, the year 927 should be one of the most memorable dates in English history.” (David Woodman, 02:22)
- Following the death of Viking king Sitrich in York, Æthelstan takes control and secures loyalties from surrounding kingdoms.
- Eamont Bridge Ceremony:
- Symbolic submission of other kings (Welsh, Scottish, Northumbrian) to Æthelstan at a memorable ceremonial location, underlining a new "pan-English" era.
- “Various kings from Wales, a king from Scotland and a ruler from Northumbria... agree to recognize the superiority of Athelstan that day... He very quickly calls himself the King of the English, the Rex Anglorum in Latin.” (David Woodman, 02:48)
- Symbolic submission of other kings (Welsh, Scottish, Northumbrian) to Æthelstan at a memorable ceremonial location, underlining a new "pan-English" era.
2. Public Memory and PR: Why Isn’t Æthelstan Better Known?
- Overshadowed by Other Figures:
- Alfred the Great and the Battle of Hastings (1066) dominate English historical memory.
- “Poor old Aethelstan didn’t have very good PR. His grandfather, Alfred the Great, was much more famous... Alfred was fortunate in that he had a contemporary biographer.” (David Woodman, 05:25)
- Alfred the Great and the Battle of Hastings (1066) dominate English historical memory.
- Historiographical Issues:
- Lack of a contemporary biography and the brevity of surviving poetic records have contributed to his obscurity.
- “If Athelstan ever had such a person, we don’t have the texts that survive.” (David Woodman, 05:25)
- Lack of a contemporary biography and the brevity of surviving poetic records have contributed to his obscurity.
Memorable Quote:
- “I did wonder... does it say something about this sort of self-deprecating attitude of the Brits that we sort of think about our history as beginning with a big defeat rather than this formation of the English kingdom in the first place?” (David Woodman, 05:57)
3. The Fragility and Aftermath of English Unity
- Post-Æthelstan Fragmentation:
- After his death in 939, Viking rulers reclaim York and England falls apart, highlighting the significance of his unifying power.
- “So yes, it breaks down and I think it speaks to... just how successful he had been as an individual. It just shows that so much rested on his shoulders.” (David Woodman, 06:35)
- After his death in 939, Viking rulers reclaim York and England falls apart, highlighting the significance of his unifying power.
- Battle of Brunanburh (937):
- A key military victory that solidified Æthelstan’s rule but also demonstrated the constant threat to unity.
4. The “Right King for the Right Moment”
- Leadership in Turbulence:
- Builds on Alfred the Great’s legacy of unity in the face of Viking raids, synthesizes military prowess with diplomatic and political alliances.
- “Athelstan is really taking these ideas that have been formed and were nascent in Alfred’s court and drives them forward. So he’s absolutely a man of the moment.” (David Woodman, 08:05)
- Builds on Alfred the Great’s legacy of unity in the face of Viking raids, synthesizes military prowess with diplomatic and political alliances.
- Combination of Tactics:
- Diplomacy (through marriages, alliances) and military strategy both key tools, following models set by Alfred and Aethelflaed.
- “I think Aethelstan... would have succeeded by combining both negotiation and political [skill] ... but also with martial skill.” (David Woodman, 09:38)
- Diplomacy (through marriages, alliances) and military strategy both key tools, following models set by Alfred and Aethelflaed.
5. European Diplomacy and Alliances
- Continental Connections:
- Established marriage alliances with royal houses in West Francia, East Frankia, and Burgundy, making England a player in European politics.
- “He marries [his half sisters] into these royal houses and he sets himself up as being a key player on the European stage as well.” (David Woodman, 11:05)
- Established marriage alliances with royal houses in West Francia, East Frankia, and Burgundy, making England a player in European politics.
- Court Politics & Sibling Rivalry:
- Multiple half-siblings due to Edward the Elder’s three marriages, some of whom were rivals for the throne.
6. The Historian’s Challenge: Reconstructing Æthelstan
- Source Limitations:
- Lacks a full contemporary chronicle, so historians rely on royal diplomas, law codes, coins, and later texts (e.g., William of Malmesbury).
- “You have to be quite imaginative in trying to overcome those gaps... you have to do it thematically.” (David Woodman, 11:47)
- Lacks a full contemporary chronicle, so historians rely on royal diplomas, law codes, coins, and later texts (e.g., William of Malmesbury).
- Royal Documents & Court Life:
- Surviving legal charters (“diplomas”) paint a picture of authority; rich assemblies with 70–80 named witnesses from across the realm.
- “At the end of these diplomas... 70 to 80 names listed... there’s probably four or five hundred people present at these occasions. They must have been extraordinary gatherings.” (David Woodman, 19:48)
- Surviving legal charters (“diplomas”) paint a picture of authority; rich assemblies with 70–80 named witnesses from across the realm.
Notable Moment:
- The unique and elaborate Latin style of the royal documents, created by the king’s own scribe.
- “It seemed to me that these documents were unlike anything else from the early medieval period... I became fascinated by the style of Latin, the rhyme, the alliteration, the chiasmus, the use of new words that he invents.” (David Woodman, 18:10)
7. Æthelstan’s Personal Life and Succession
- No Known Direct Heirs:
- Never married, no clear children; succession moved to his half-brother Edmund.
- “He didn’t have any direct heirs. So when he dies in 939, the throne passes to half brother Edmund.” (David Woodman, 20:31)
- Never married, no clear children; succession moved to his half-brother Edmund.
- Uncertain Primogeniture:
- No established rule that the eldest son would succeed; thrones went to “athelings” or throne-worthy royals, with assemblies and power plays deciding.
- “There was no strict rule of primogeniture... when a king died... it depended on all sorts of things like military power, status, but also who had the backing of the royal assembly at that moment.” (David Woodman, 21:20)
- No established rule that the eldest son would succeed; thrones went to “athelings” or throne-worthy royals, with assemblies and power plays deciding.
8. The Historian’s Holy Grail
- Constant Hope for New Sources:
- Finds—like new coins in Rome—still happen; scholars hope for new manuscripts to fill in gaps, especially since the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle is limited for Æthelstan’s reign.
- “One of the reasons I love working in this area is that there’s always a chance for new material to be found... my wish would be to discover a manuscript that had more detail about Athelstan.” (David Woodman, 23:25)
- Finds—like new coins in Rome—still happen; scholars hope for new manuscripts to fill in gaps, especially since the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle is limited for Æthelstan’s reign.
9. Legacy and Modern Impact
- Blueprint for a Nation:
- While unity was fragile, Æthelstan is seen as the “founding father” with the vision and the means to make England possible.
- “Athelstan is England’s founding father. That’s really very important... he was the kind of architect of it all, the person who had the idea, the blueprint for it and made it a vague reality in the early 10th century.” (David Woodman, 14:37)
- While unity was fragile, Æthelstan is seen as the “founding father” with the vision and the means to make England possible.
- Commemorations:
- Recent and upcoming anniversaries; 1100 years since his coronation (2025)—including community celebrations, memorabilia (like a named train and beer), and plans for the 1100th anniversary of England’s creation (2027).
- “Just the other week it was the 1100th anniversary of his coronation. There were wonderful celebrations in Kingston... a train in Athelstan’s honour... a special Athelstan beer for the day.” (David Woodman, 04:18)
- Recent and upcoming anniversaries; 1100 years since his coronation (2025)—including community celebrations, memorabilia (like a named train and beer), and plans for the 1100th anniversary of England’s creation (2027).
10. Historians’ Personal Fascination
- Woodman’s Entry Point:
- First became interested as a student, surprised by Æthelstan’s obscurity and achievements.
- “I remember going up to study history and one of the first essays I did was on Athelstan... I just hadn’t found out about him. So that was when I first found out about Athelstan and became fascinated by him ever since.” (David Woodman, 15:25)
- First became interested as a student, surprised by Æthelstan’s obscurity and achievements.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “He becomes the first king of the West Saxon line ever to have brought together all of the formerly independent kingdoms... and creates the kingdom of the English for the first time.” — David Woodman (01:36)
- “For me, the year 927 should be one of the most memorable dates in English history.” — David Woodman (02:22)
- “Poor old Aethelstan didn’t have very good PR... Alfred was fortunate in that he had a contemporary biographer.” — David Woodman (05:25)
- “Athelstan is England’s founding father. That’s really very important.” — David Woodman (14:37)
- “If I had a wish, it would be to discover a manuscript that had more detail about Athelstan.” — David Woodman (23:25)
- “At the end of these diplomas... 70 to 80 names listed... there’s probably four or five hundred people present at these occasions.” — David Woodman (19:48)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- Æthelstan's Unification and Year 927: 01:18–04:09
- Why Æthelstan Is Not Well-Known: 05:05–06:31
- Post-Death Fragmentation: 06:31–07:45
- Leadership & Legacy (right king, right time): 07:45–09:38
- Diplomacy, Family, and European Relations: 10:22–11:35
- Primary Sources and Royal Documents: 11:47–13:25, 18:10–20:27
- Succession and Heirs: 20:27–23:05
- Historian’s “Holy Grail” and Source Hopes: 23:05–24:30
- Kingdom’s Modern Legacy & Commemoration: 04:09, 14:22, 25:58
Tone and Language
- The episode blends academic rigor with approachable storytelling, combining Woodman’s scholarly caution with Dana’s curiosity and enthusiasm.
- The language remains lively and clear, making complex issues of medieval power and historiography readily accessible to non-specialists.
- Anecdotes (like naming a train after Æthelstan and seeing the Alfred Jewel) provide memorable, humanizing touches.
Closing Note
This conversation offers a vibrant, multidimensional portrait of King Æthelstan—not just as a military or political figure, but as the “architect” of English identity, a man whose reign was as complicated as it was transformative. Through the collaborative dialogue between Dana Schwartz and David Woodman, listeners come away with a renewed appreciation for the blind spots and breakthroughs of historical memory, and for the ongoing adventure of reconstructing the distant past.
For deeper insight, check out David Woodman’s book, The First King of England, and keep an eye out for upcoming events celebrating the 1100th anniversary of England’s birth.
