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Lily Fresa Talks All: Toxic Dad, Pregnant at 15, Suegra Drama, CHISME Y MAS!!!
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Monet X Change
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
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And I'm just going and driving and driving and then like, I remember crying and Addie's like, mommy, what's wrong? And I was like, oh, nothing. I'm just like, happy. Like, I'm so happy. But I knew deep down I wasn't and I just couldn't figure out what was wrong.
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Alanized
What is up, everyone? I'm your host, Alanized, and this is no.
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Your favorite podcast turn talk show and on the yoto influencers.
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So without any further ado, please help me welcome my guest tonight. Veronica.
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Me making your hubby clap.
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How are you, love?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I'm doing so good. How are you?
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Alanized
I am really good and I'm so excited.
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Your girls were in the comments.
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And I'm so excited.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
No, literally, when I seen, like, all the tags and Mentions. Because you know how it shows. Mentions. Oh, my gosh. I was so shook, I even told my husband. I was like, are you kidding?
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Alanized
Like, what?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Like, what the heck? So that's when I talked about it on one of my tick tocks, and I was like, guys, like, this is literally crazy.
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Alanized
And I'm so excited that we're making it happen. How was your ride over here? Because I know you had to drive, what, like, three, four hours?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. So it's like four hours, and then traffic is insane.
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Alanized
For those that are watching right now.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So my name is Veronica Lily, and I go by Lily Fresa on TikTok. And I am a mom of two. I'm 22. Two, so. Two, two, two. I grew up in a really small town, so that's literally. This is just insane to me.
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Alanized
Where did you grow up in?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I grew up in a Rosi, so it's like, honestly, the population is probably like 300 people. 500.
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Alanized
I've never heard of that city.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
No.
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Alanized
You'll be what's, like, the closest big.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
City, like, around Visalia. So for as.
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Alanized
Oh, my God. I have a there.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yes. Okay. So I live in Vis. We grew up in a Rosie. So. Okay. My husband says I'm lying. It's like a thousand people, but it's literally like everybody knows everybody. We're all prima as well, Me, my man aren't, but, like, you know, we all know everybody there. But I'm now living in Visalia, So that's like 20 minutes over. And now it's like a little bit more people. But it's not like big cities like Los Angeles. No.
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Alanized
I feel like Visalia is very calm. A little too calm. No.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Do you like it out there? I do. I love it. I love it.
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Alanized
I like, twice, I think I went to my prima skinceanera out there. Maybe, like, what, three years ago was the first time I ever went. Mitane anos viviendo a yay. But the drive is something that I'm like, I know me. I'm invites me all the time. And my mom and my sister love going because my grandma.
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And whenever they invite me, I'm like, I know. Quatro Las Vegas.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Is it really Vegas? It's only four hours.
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Alanized
Four hours for me, if anything. It's like three hours and 40 minutes. I feel like Vasilia loni amiga.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Right? It's all fields, so I mean, that's what I like about it, though. It's just so small. It's homey. It's like I can Go to the. Like, it's just. I have traffic. No traffic there. That's why I like it.
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Alanized
Said. So I feel like it's important to really start off with your childhood.
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Growing up. Describe your personality.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So growing up? Well, I grew up with my mom and my sister. My mom had us at the age of. I think she was 17 when she had my older sister and then 18 when she had me. So me and my sister are like a year apart. So as soon as I was born, I already had a sister. I already had my partner in crime. We did everything together. My mom even dressed us like twins. Like, yeah, my mom thought she had twins. I'm like Irish twins maybe, but not twins. But my mom had both me and my sister and we grew up together at my grandma's house. So it was like my grandma, my Thea, my mom, and it was me and my sister and my grandpa. We were all in like one little house, like two bedrooms. And honestly, like, I told my to my mom because she was like, oh my gosh, do you remember the house? I'm like, yes. Like, that was like the best time ever. Like, we had like a little tv. We would watch Ariel on it. And it was so funny because they had like a huge. It was probably like a queen size bed or full. And right next to it there was like a twin size bed. And we would sleep like me and my sister in the twin size bed. Like right next to it. My Thea, my mom would sleep on the Quinn Queen. So it was like right. And that was like the whole wall, like literally like the whole room.
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Alanized
Like your whole space. That's it.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
A little square. Yeah, the house was super small. My grandma still has it till this day. So yeah, like, we grew up very. It was just us tight knit. And then my mom met my stepdad. So yeah, like, it was a huge, like, who the heck is this? Because I was just used to my mom. So I had a sister growing up and my stepdad that was all of.
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Alanized
Us Como Twito sisters growing up. Do you feel like, you know, you mentioned you guys were like besties. Quier.
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What was that relationship like growing up?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Honestly, it was me. I was a really bad kid. But you know what? Now that I'm older and I understand kids a lot more and I understand like life and just, you know, with experiences and stuff, I can genuinely say that I was just a broken child. Not like my mom did everything she could for us. I feel like we had a really, really, really good life. Like my mom, she was Like, a super mom, like, for everything. My mom's like, we would have spirit days, and my mom would bejewel all.
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Alanized
Our shirts, make the crazy hair day.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
My mom was like that. Like, she was like that. We had T ball, and there was no coach. So my mom and my stepdad signed up to be our coaches. Like, they're just like, my mom, like, there. She loves like, no other. Like, my mom's a huge. She has a big heart. But me, on the other hand, I grew up without my dad. He was in the picture, but not in the picture. So he was just in and out of prison a lot. And honestly, all we knew him by me and my sister was just phone calls. So I grew up very angry because I didn't understand that. And my sister was just more like, like, so what? We don't have a dad. Like, who cares? And me, I'm like, why? Why isn't he here? Who's that?
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Alanized
Yes.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, I think because I was, like, a wannabe daddy's girl. So whenever he would call us, like, it would just be like, oh, my gosh, Dad's calling. Like, I don't know. I just, like, always wanted my dad. It's just hard to explain. I don't know.
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Alanized
Do you remember the moment growing up? Because I feel like growing up. Como que?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Que qu.
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Alanized
Nontende most bien las cosas. Right? You probably didn. That your dad was away, but do you remember the moment that you realized, like, oh, shit, my dad's in jail. He can't be in our life. Like, this is going to be hard.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
You know what the. He would always lie to us. So, like, for me, my sister, whenever he would call, we always thought he was, like, away, like, on a taco truck competition. Like, that's how he would say, like, oh, we're competing for taco trucks. And I got to be away for, like, three months. And so we never really questioned it. It was like, we had my mom and, like, I had my stepdad. We have our own home. Like, it was like, I never needed him. And, like, in a sense of he picks me from school. Like, he was never involved at all. Zero. But the phone calls. He was always, like, calling us, like, every week or every other week. So I think I just, like, in my own head, created, like, a such a strong relationship, but I don't. Yeah, he wasn't really. I don't think that there was ever a point where I just realized, like, oh, my gosh, he's in jail, and I'm never gonna have him because it just happened so quick. It was like he was home. He would be. He would be gone for like two years, a year, and then he would come back and I'm like, oh, my gosh, dad's here. And then he would leave again, and then he would come back, and then.
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Alanized
He was very inconsistent.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yes.
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Alanized
That inconsistency affected you growing up. Do you feel like, you know, it made you maybe a kid that didn't really trust people? Because you're like, my dad isn't even keeping up his end of the bargains whenever he promised me. So I'm growing up to like, almost not believe people saying anything that they're gonna do.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
You know what? Yes. Because I also went to therapy for it because I wanted to understand why I was always so angry growing up. And I think what helped helped me realize why, like, I, I am the way that I am is like, I'm just very quick to detach.
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Alanized
Okay.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So whenever I feel like somebody has the same traits as my dad or just starts being inconsistent, I'm just like, peace. That's just. It's just easier that way. And I. It definitely has rubbed off.
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Alanized
As an adult, you saw your friends growing up having their mom and their dad. Did you ever feel like, jealous, like, oh, my God, why can't I have my dad in my life? How did that make you feel growing up?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, I was a jealous little girl for everybody. Not even just friends, like family. I was very jealous. And that's why I say, like, I was broken child, because I feel like I was a meanie. Like, I tell my husband the day that I gave birth to my daughter, my five year old, Adeline. I. I was 16 when I gave birth. I sat on the, like, the hospital bed and I remember just crying and crying and crying and crying. And he's like, what's wrong? And I'm like, because, like, I would just, I would hate if somebody bullied my kid. Like, I would literally, like, I would be so angry if somebody treated my kid the way that I treated some kids growing up, you know, like, that made me realize that I was just like, very jealous kid. Only because I was brokenhearted. So whenever I would see somebody with their dad or like, my cousin had a really good dad, so he was always building her things and just like, making her things. And I felt like it kind of made me a little bit jealous because I'm like, dang, like, she has a good dad. Like, why can't I have one?
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Alanized
Your mom.
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Do you feel like you were able to see him as, like, your father figure, or was it something like, no, to notice me, Papa, you're not.
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How was that relationship?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So he did come in in our life at, like, I was three. My sister was four. And honest, I did not like him. And that's so sad to say, because I love him now, and my girls love him with all their heart. Like, right before I left, my daughter's, like, crawling, and she's like, papa, Papa, like. And my other one's, like, asking for topes. Like, they love him so much. And I just, like, regret being like that. Being not, like, accepting of him. Because he was a really good stepdad, I'm telling you. Like, he would be our coach for baseball. He would pick us up from school. My mom wouldn't pick us up. She would work. And so he would pick us up with McDonald'. And he was just such an involved, like, stepdad. I don't think that there could be, like, any better stepdad than him. And I just didn't accept him as a kid because I just felt like he was the reason why my mom and my dad weren't together. I was just an angry kid. So if me and my mom, we would, like, bump heads. I wasn't ever like, oh, my God, you left my dad. Like, no. I would just be like, I can't wait for my dad to come. Like, it was just. I wasn't mad at her, but it was. I can't explain. Like, it just. I just. I just wasn't mad at her for leaving my dad because I understood it. I knew he was, like, an ass from. Since I was little. Like, you can kind of. You know, when you're little, you're just like. But like, I just wanted him there. But with my stepdad, he was the one who got all the heat. I'm like, he got all the smoke. I'm sorry.
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Alanized
He did.
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Step down. And you still would choose to be like. Or was it something that you kind of saw as you got older? Like, oh, you know what? I really do remember my stepdad doing his best to, like, be the father figure we didn't have. But, like, I was such a. To him. Was that something that later on you kind of understood, or to this principally says, damn, I'm really a. For no reason to my stepdad.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
No, I knew I was a bitch. Like, I knew I was. Cause anytime we would have, like, an argument or he has videos, and he would do that all the time. So I would always get mad. Cause I'm like, why are you Videoing me. But now that I'm older, I'm like, damn, now I know why. So one time we were sitting down in the car, and I don't know what I wanted, but we were, like, arguing for something. And he's recording. He just got out of work. He was working 10, 11 hours that day. And he's, like, holding my little sister in her little carrier. And my older sister's walking in front of me. We're going inside the door, and he's recording, right? And he knew something was gonna happen. Cause he already knew. And he opens the door and hits my sister. My older sister a little bit, like, on the head, you know, when he opened it, she's like, ouch. And I was like, you see? You're a piece of pizza. And, yeah, I was like, you're a piece of pizza. And I was probably, like, 6, 5 saying that. And I'm like, look, you always hurt her. You see? You're so rude. And he was like, okay, Veronica, just get inside. Like, just get inside. We could eat. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, no, you're so rude. You can't even apologize to her. He's like, I'm sorry, Vanessa. Like, yes, she knows I'm sorry. And I'm like, you're. You're so rude. And I would walk inside all little like, you're so rude. You're so rude.
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Alanized
I feel like that's very normal, though. You know what's so funny? We were just having this conversation on Thanksgiving night because my boyfriend and my dad was not in the picture growing up. And, you know, they had their stepdad come in very early on. They were telling their stepdad, like, you know what? Like, we're so happy that you really stepped in. My cunada was very. I think my boyfriend kind of already, like, had that resentment, like, very early, early on with his dad because he was a little bit older when they kind of split. So he really did see things for what they were. But my kunyada was so stuck on, like, being daddy's girl. Being like, no, my dad's the best dad. My dad's the perfect man. And then, yeah, later on in life, even though she doesn't have, like, a horrible relationship with him, but I feel like she sees him now for who he is versus the dad. When did that moment hit for you? Like, when did you realize, like, you know what? Growing up, I wanted to see my dad for the good of him. Now as I get older, I really see him more as. As the human he Is versus the lovey dad that I want to like.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
It was like right before I had Adelyn. He was in prison for about five to six years. I can't remember exactly. And he got out my freshman year, so that's when I'm already older. Like the last time he seen me, I was probably like in third grade. Like I was a baby. Like, I had no idea what was going on. I just loved my dad, right? So when he got out, when I was in already like freshman year, I was already older. I understood things. So I think the first time ever I realized, like, oh my gosh, he's an ass. I went to go help him. He would do like tacos and stuff like that. So I want to go help him like, out of like the kindness out of my heart. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna pay you guys whatever. He pay like 30 bucks. Which I didn't care. I was like, so happy to be around my dad. Like, I even had pictures that day. I was like, oh my God. Me and my dad, like, after not seeing him forever. So then that day we get into a little argument and he just starts like cussing like, oh, you and like all this stuff. And I'm like, this is my dad. Like, that's. Ew. I just didn't expect my stepdad would never like my. I've never heard my stepdad call my mom names. I've never heard him yell at her. I've never heard them fight, like, fight with each other, if any. We were just like, ew. Like, because it would kiss and they would be like hugging.
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Alanized
Stepdad was never like.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
You know, like, very much.
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Alanized
Like, if you were a. Like, to him, like, did he ever like lash out at you?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Never, like, never.
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Alanized
It was like a whole different.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Like, yes. If anything, my stepdad would just be like, hey. Like when I would argue with my mom, he'd be like, hey, that's my wife. Like, don't talk to your mom like that. So he was always like, very level headed, very cool, very. Just like. I'm like, I don't know. Just like the dream dad, you know? And when I had. When I. Well, when my. My dad did that, my biological dad did that, I was just like, oh. I remember comparing the two. I was like, oh my gosh. Like, he just called me a. Like, like I. I cried because I was so disappointed. I wasn't even mad. Like, you is like, oh, my God, that didn't hurt, you know, but like the fact that I was coming from my dad. This guy that I thought was like, the night in shining armor, he was like, oh, my God, the best dad in the world. And the fact that he called me that, I remember, like, that was when I was like, oh, my gosh. Like.
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Monet X Change
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
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Like.
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Alanized
Not even, like, in a joke.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
He was, like, nasty with his words. He was like, oh, yeah, you cockroach. Like, he was, like, ugly. He's, like, very, very verbally abusive. And they thought that it was okay growing up, you know, like my grandparents and everybody.
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Alanized
Tough love. Yes.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And that's not. I'm like, I get it. Like, if it's. He. Ha. But no, Like, I would do something, and he'd be like, get the away. Like, he was very, like, from what I know.
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Alanized
Everyone hates.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I know.
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Alanized
Like, what do you think about me? Yeah.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. No, he was, like, an ass. So, like, I said, like, I just. Comparing the two. And that's when I realized, like, my freshman year, like, this guy is not a good dad, like, at all.
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Alanized
That he cut you off, you know, three years ago.
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What moment sparked him wanting to cut you off?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Okay, so right when he got out of prison, that's when I realized, like, okay, this guy's not who he is. I thought he was. And it was just, like, little things more like, that started happening where he would. I remember one time I was on the phone with Nathaniel and my husband, and he was. He was, like, 14. Like, we were young. We were so young. 15, 16. I can't remember the exact age. And, like, he was just cleaning shoes, And I'm just FaceTiming him, you know, like, boyfriend, girlfriend things. And he got the phone, seen that, like, threw my phone, started yelling at Nathaniel on the phone, like. And just, like, things like that would just keep happening. Right. It was like, that time, and I'm like, okay, yeah, this is just like, he's just crazy. And then after that, it's just, like, like, constant be reading. And one time I finally decided I had enough. Like, just, like, he was just too much. Yeah. So I started giving him the same energy back. We would be working together, and he would say some, like, mean thing to, like, the lady that he's working with, and I would yell it back at him. I'd be like, leave her alone. Shut the up, Brady. Like, you're fat. And, like, I would go back at him, and then he'd be like, oh, you shut up. And, like, he would, like, be, like, verbally aggressive with me back, and we would just, like, butt heads. And it kept happening like. Like, every time, like, we would hang out with each other. I just, like, I hated him. I came to a point where it was like, no longer love. Like, I hated him because I'M like, you're so mean. You're so ugly. You're so, like, aggressive with your words towards us. It just came to the point where we weren't being, like, protected by him anymore. I felt like we were just kind of being like, thrown to the wolves. If anybody had anything to say about me and my sister, he just kind of, like, allowed it. He ended up, you know, remarrying or. I don't know what he did, but it's just like the confidence, constant disrespect from that side. He allowed it.
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Alanized
Like, he wasn't choosing you guys.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
No, he was allowing it. So if she would say something about my sister, it was like she would body shame my sister and would be like, hey, like, you're allowing her to do that to my sister. And he's just like, well, like, I'm gonna talk to her about it. And it was just like, things after things after things after things, where it was just like, you know what? Now I hate you because you're allowing them to bully me. I was a very. That's. That's the type of sister I am where I'm like, that's my sister. She's older than me.
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Alanized
Like, if anyone's gonna bully her, it's gonna be me.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, no. Yeah, literally. But no, I was just like, that's my sister. Like, she's not. She's not the type to stand up for herself. But me, on the other hand, I'm the one that's like, no, not today. Like, that's my sister. So whenever we bumped heads about that, I remember telling him, like, he asked me actually, he was like, hey, like, I noticed that, you know, you don't want to talk to me anymore. Every time you talk to me, you're mean to me. And, like, you're just, like, kind of rebelling again, rebelling against me. And that's when I was like, you know what? Like, honestly, I do hate you. I'm so mad at you about that. You told me over the phone that everything was going to be like La La Land when you got out. And when you got out, it was a complete opposite. You forgot about me and my sister. You treated us like shit. And then on top of that, it's like, you use this whenever it's convenient.
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Alanized
Yeah.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And not once does he ever call me like, hey, Miha, I love you. It was none of that. There was no love. And it's just like my whole conception of my dad just flipped. It was like he was. I thought he was this loving Big, amazing guy. And then now it's like, he's a jerk, he's an asshole. He's all these things that I never thought he was. And so when I was talking to him about that, he was like, okay, like we're gonna go to Thera together. Like we're gonna figure this out. And so I'm on the other hand, like, oh my God, yes. Like my dad finally wants to work on things with me. Like, I'm so excited. I had already had Adelyn at that point. I was already 18 and I'm excited about a relationship with my dad, you know? And so I'm right there, I'm going to therapy, I'm getting the help I need. One weekend I decided to go help him at the taco truck. And I noticed like he just started. So I was like, oh, okay. Like he's not making that much money, you know, there's not a lot of customers. It's a new, new spot. So I tell him, I'm like, hey, you know, even though I've been there since like 4 in the morning to like 2pm, I'm like, you know what, you don't have to pay me for today. Like, dad, like, I understand. You don't have to pay me. I know you didn't make a lot. You still have to pay the ladies. Because there was like ladies out there making like tortillas and stuff. I'm like, you could pay them, do what you need with them. But like me, like, you don't have to pay me anything. Like it's fine. And he was like, okay, are you sure, Miha? I'm like, yeah, it's fine. Like it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. I feel like that was the first day I finally felt like, okay, like he was nice with me, I was nice with him and he was just like. I felt like it was like changing.
- [24:06]
Yes, no, exactly. Perfect.
- [24:10]
Alanized
Yeah. Literally.
- [24:11]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So I was like, okay, whatever. The next day I go help him again at the taco truck. And this is like his regular location. We go and we do the regular schmegular thing. And that's when after we go to a birthday party and I even go after. Keep in mind, I worked two days, like 12 plus hours, 4am to 3pm for free? Yeah, for free the night before. And then that day again, working again. And I, I'm like fucking exhausted. So I go pick up my daughter and we go to like the birthday party, right? We get there, I take gifts and stuff like that. And as soon as we get there, we all got along really, really, really well. And for some reason at night, I leave, I'm like, hey, dad, I'm leaving. Adeline was pissed. My daughter, you know, kids, like, they just start crying. I'm like, you know what, I have to go. Like, it was already, the time was already over. It was like 6:00pm they, they closed. And I remember leaving at like 5:58. So I'm like, hey, I have to go already. Like, Adelyn's already pissed, I gotta go. So I leave. And as soon as I leave, like three hours later, nine, we get a text. Because he texts me and my sister through a group chat. And he's like, hey, girls. Not, I don't know word for word what he was said, but like, basically the context of it was, hey, girls. After realizing that you girls will never forgive me for what I've done, and even though I've tried and worked so hard for you guys to forgive me, you guys just can't. And you guys don't show up for anybody anymore. Basically hinting that we don't show up for his, his daughters that are like two in one, they were like little tiny babies, we don't show up for them. And may God bless us. No, I love you. No. Maybe we could work this out. Nothing. Like, it was just. That was it.
- [25:43]
Alanized
How did it feel reading that message? Because I feel like, you know, when kids come from broken families or broken homes, it's usually, you know, the child cutting ties with the parent. Because, you know, I feel like parents are very much like, no. Even if they have like a shitty child, they're like, no, es mijo, es mijo. You know, how did it feel being the, the, the roles reversed where you're like, oh, he's cutting us off. We should have been doing that. How did that feel in that moment?
- [26:09]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I was just so angry. Like, little Verito started coming out again where I was like, what? I was already ready to square up. So as soon as he sent that text, I remember calling my aunt because my aunt was like my sister. We actually used to. We grew up watching you. Yeah. After school we would like, sit on her bed, we would eat hot Cheetos and she would get hot Cheetos and cheese.
- [26:29]
Yes.
- [26:30]
Alanized
Hola, Latia. I love it. Yeah.
- [26:33]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So we grew up watching you. And, well, that day I called her because she was like an older sister to me and my sister. But that's his sister.
- [26:40]
Alanized
Okay.
- [26:41]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And so we called him. We're like, hey, like, this is happening. Like, what the fuck's going on? And she's like, oh, maybe he's drunk. Like, I'm gonna ask grandma. We're gonna see what that's all about. And that was it. And then I called my sister. I'm like, hey, did you see that? And she's like, vero. Like, this is dad. Like, I've told you over and over again, like, this is just what he does. Like, so what? He wasn't in our lives before. He was half assed in it. Like, who cares? And that's when I was like, you know what? Like, I'm gonna say something to him. Like, if he thinks that, like, he's gonna like, just walk off like a little fairy tale land. Like, I just cut my two daughters off and like, he think he did.
- [27:12]
Alanized
A little mic drop.
- [27:13]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, yeah.
- [27:16]
Pick the Mac back up.
- [27:17]
Alanized
I'll pick it up.
- [27:18]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, exactly. So I was like, okay. So then I texted him back and I'm like, you're literally a loser. And I just start going off on him. I'm like, I could never imagine my husband doing this to my daughter. Like, you are not a dad. Dad. When you decide you want to come back and be a dad, it's going to be too late. And I was just so angry because I'm just like, now I'm a mom. Yeah, now it's no longer like, you're not. It's. I don't see you just as like my dad. I see you as a dad. And I'm like, I don't know any other dad that would do this to their kids. And so when he did that to us yet again, like, probably this is like the fifth time he's done it. I was just like, this is it. Like, this is it. This is where like. And I literally told him in the text, I'm like, never come back. Like, I literally, literally hate you. And after that, never responded back.
- [28:00]
Alanized
Would you want any type of like, reconciliation or do you feel like you're at a point in your life where you're like, you know what? You didn't come through when I needed you to be there. Now I don't want you here for my peace.
- [28:09]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
In a way, I thought so right before, like, coming on here, I thought that there would be like a little bit of me because I, I've. I've gone to therapy. Like, I've learned and I even like with anybody in life who's ever wronged me or made me feel, feel like less than or is treating me Horribly. I'm just like, we can move past it. Like, I can see you for who. Not for what you did to me, but for who you are as a person. Maybe he was a broken child growing up. You know, Maybe he doesn't know how to love. Maybe because he wasn't loved. And so, like, I start thinking deeper into it, and I'm like, okay. Like, I would, like, okay, maybe I could talk to my dad again. Maybe that was the day he was, like, super drunk and stupid. And then before coming on here, like, after two years of not messaging me, I've given birth. In the two years. In those two years I've given birth, my daughter is now five. We bought a house. And it's just like, I feel like we're doing, like, I'm like, okay in life. And it's just like, he's not decided to come back at all and just wish me, like, congratulate me, not apologize, nothing like that. If anything, he's like, berated me more to family, it's like, oh, Vero this, Vero that. And it's just. Even family has decided to message me and go off on me after everything that's happened. It's like he's constantly, like, kicking me while I'm down. And then right before this podcast, he decides to text me, like, hey, if Veto says anything, like, let her know she can basically talk to my lawyer, you know, like, and it's like time after time after time again. It's like, I've forgiven you first. I've forgiven you again. Even with no apologies, I've forgiven, forgiven, forgiven. And I think, like, I could see past, like, all of this, and it's like, you still decide to treat me like shit.
- [29:39]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [29:39]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
It's like, for what? I feel like I don't even do anything to him. I don't even hate him. I don't. And it's sad to say that I don't hate him, but it's like, what could I do?
- [29:48]
Alanized
I feel like, you know what's so funny? Because I've had this conversation with, you know, my boyfriend before where he's always felt like, you know, fuck my dad, my dad, my dad. But as he's gotten older, he's kind of been like, you know, what if. What if I do have a relationship with him? What if I do try to rekindle? And then he'll be like, no, no, no, no. Because, you know, my dad's this way. He's not going to change. Like, if he wasn't in her life, When I needed him. Why now? And, you know, my boyfriend was telling me, he's like, you know what? Even if I try to rekindle, I feel like my life is so different now. Like, I already have the people who I care love for that. To add my dad back in the picture, it's like, I have to make time for him. I have to, like, try to heal that relationship. Yes, Muncho. He's like, no, you think I'm going on in my life that for the peace of mind.
- [30:38]
You know what I mean? What piece of advice can you give, you know, anyone watching right now that maybe has gone or is currently going, you know, through something similar where, like, a parent is absent, where a parent is almost doing what they've done to you? What piece of advice can you give.
- [30:52]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Anyone watching, you know what helped me kind of realize that I will never have that relationship with him, no matter how much I dream, no matter how hard I pray. What helped me was going to therapy. And the way my therapist explained it was he said, this is the amount of love that you want and you need in your life, and this is the amount of love he can give. It's never going to match. He's never going to love you the way that you need. So it's accepting him back and back and back again. It's just going to keep hurting you. And now as a mom, I'm like, if he couldn't be a good dad, he's sure as hell not going to be a good grandpa, and I do not need that around my. My kids. My rain will never wet my babies, ever.
- [31:27]
Alanized
Where you're like, you know what? Instead of wanting this love from your dad, you're like, mera, querido amisijas. You know what I mean? So I feel like now you're like, you know what? I'm tired chasing love. I'm just gonna give love to my kids so they won't ever feel the way I felt growing up, you know?
- [31:44]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Exactly. And I feel like I have, like, their dad is amazing. I'm like, my husband is the dad that I've always dreamt of. Always. Okay.
- [31:52]
Alanized
I love it.
- [31:53]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, always. So I feel like they have what I missed and what he also missed because we both didn't have our dads growing up. So that's the best thing I could do is not repeat the cycle. And I feel like I have it.
- [32:02]
Alanized
Do you feel like that's kind of like healing you, too?
- [32:04]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Oh, yeah. 100%. 100%. I see them playing, and I'M like, ah, cute picture. I love it.
- [32:12]
Alanized
Which I feel like is the goal. I feel like, you know, we can go through shitty in life, we can be down, but that doesn't mean you have to repeat the cycle. You know what? If you felt this way, I'm gonna make sure that my kids don'. Feel this way. And I'm glad that you're doing that. Amiga, stop what you're doing right now.
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With that being said, we'll get back to today's episode.
- [33:14]
You know, where you, like the loud kid, were you the quiet, the popular, the shy kid?
- [33:20]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
In school, I was always super, like, academically involved in things. I was always busy. That's what it was. I kept my mind busy. And I think that reflects me now as a parent. As an adult, I'm very. I like to keep myself busy. So as a kid, I was always in sports. I did a little bit of soccer growing up, I did. I did basketball for a year. Not for me. Whoever plays basketball, you guys are amazing. Because I can't. But I did a little bit of volleyball, and then I did softball. I did dance, and then I did cheer.
- [33:47]
Alanized
Damn, you did it all, girl.
- [33:52]
One thing, like, what the. Am I good for making videos?
- [33:56]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
At least that's the only thing. If I can't play volleyball, I gotta play do videos.
- [34:01]
Alanized
You're like, it.
- [34:02]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Exactly. So, no, I just kept busy a lot. I. My eighth grade year, I ended up getting with my husband now. So in school, I didn't really have, like, a friend group that I'm always like, oh, my gosh. Like, I mean, I did have friends, but I was very attached to him.
- [34:16]
Alanized
Okay.
- [34:16]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, I was like. I was like the little girl, like, with little boyfriend in the aisles. Like, yeah, that was me. I was very lover girl.
- [34:25]
Alanized
So, you know, you guys meet in 8th grade? How did you guys meet? Who made the first move? How did he ask you out? And what was the beginning of the relationship? Like, do you feel like you guys started off very, like, you know, we're kids, let's just love each other. Or was it toxic because you were so young too?
- [34:40]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Actually, I think I made the first move.
- [34:42]
Alanized
Okay.
- [34:42]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, I did City Girls down, but it's okay. I had met. Oh, no, I Didn't message him. I followed him on Instagram because I had seen, like, a picture. He was tagged in, and I was like, oh, you cute. Okay, follow. So I followed him, and then in his caption or his bio, he had, like. It was his bio. He had, like, a Snapchat this, this, and this. And I was like, okay, yeah, okay. You're asking me to. I'll add you. So I add him on snap, and still nothing. He didn't recognize me. Like, he didn't notice me. And I was like, okay, yeah. So he's only a year older, so he's in the same grade as my sister. Basically. Like, at that point, we were just at. I was just waiting for, like, a little tag. Something, Nothing. After, like, two months, my. You know what? Whatever. You're not that cute.
- [35:27]
Alanized
Somewhere else. I literally.
- [35:29]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
No, I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna make the first move, because I feel like I already did.
- [35:32]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [35:32]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So I let him. Like, whatever. I was like, do your own thing. And finally, after one day, I'm, like, posting a little ranting video here. Like, that's how I knew he likes crazy girls now. I'm just kidding, because I was like, you guys, like, blah, blah, blah. Like, I'm ranting, right? And then he slides up. He's like, real. I was like, okay, that's it. So then we just started texting. I'm like, yeah. And we just start messaging back and forth, back and forth. And that's when he decides. He's like, okay, like, can we start talking? And I'm like, oh, yeah. Like, keep in mind, we're 12 and 13. So we're just, you know.
- [36:03]
So we're just like, okay, can we start talking? I'm like, yeah. One random day, after talking for, like, maybe six months, he texted me, and he's like, do you want to be my girlfriend? And me being weird. I was like, always, like, like, not. I needed him to, like, say it. So I was like, what do you mean? Like, your. Your friend, your girlfriend? Like, I could be your friend. And he's like, no. Like, will you go out with me? I was like, oh, yeah. Like, oh, yeah.
- [36:25]
Alanized
Like, I guess.
- [36:26]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah.
- [36:26]
Alanized
Like, I'm applauding it from, like, a year ago. You're like, finally came.
- [36:30]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I was like, yes. I was like, confetti poppers. No, you're already.
- [36:34]
Alanized
I swear to God. You're like, oh, my God. I thought this day would never come.
- [36:39]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I changed my bio.
- [36:40]
Alanized
When are we getting married? Literally, you guys all got married on Facebook. I'm ready.
- [36:45]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, he texted me that. And I was like, okay. So right off the bat, I was, like, so in love. I'm like, oh, my God, I love this guy. He's so cute. And this guy brought me problems. Let me just say that. Girls were messaging me, like, oh, you. You're not invited to this anymore. If we see you, it's on site over him. I was like.
- [37:03]
Alanized
Because, like, he would be talking to those girls.
- [37:05]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
They just liked him. But he's not. Like, he was never like that. Growing up, he would just play football, just chill. Yeah. And he was just friendly.
- [37:12]
Alanized
Like, even very much like those boys that, like, he wouldn't talk to too many girls, but the girls would be like, oh, my God, he's so cute. Like, okay.
- [37:19]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. Like, he's a nonchalant. Like, everybody thought. Like, he's not little hoe. Like, oh, my gosh. Like, he's like, low key, talks to you.
- [37:25]
Alanized
Like, oh, my God.
- [37:28]
Oh, no.
- [37:28]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. And so when we got together, everybody was like, mad. Everybody, Everybody. And I remember I got even, like, a couple, like, oh, I'm gonna fight you when I see you. And I was younger than them by like a year or two. I was like, what the hell? Like, okay, he brought me a lot of problems. Let me just say that. No, but after that, we were just, like, inseparable. Like, we did everything. Not everything together because we weren't going out yet. We were still so little. And freshman year was finally the year we got to go to school together because we weren't in school together. We were just. I was 8th grader and he was a freshman. So different schools, but same little town. And when we finally got to be together, oh, I never left aside. I was like, you don't have friends some more. It's just me and you. I feel like my daddy issues kind of rubbed off in it, too, because I'm like, you're not allowed to leave me. Like he did. You know, I'm like, stay right there. So I did. In a way, I. I do think. I just. I held in by, like, I was like, you're not going to. Yeah, have you seen that? There's, like, a meme of this girl walking around with, like, the little poito. And, like, yeah, that was me.
- [38:25]
Right here. Yes, that was me with him. And I think to a point, he was kind of over it because, like, he was that nonchalant guy. Like, oh, I just like to play football. I don't like to, like, do that.
- [38:35]
Alanized
Like he did.
- [38:37]
Away.
- [38:37]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
It's like, like he was like, like I was his first relationship. He was my first relationship. And I feel like it was just too much for him. So it became like, it got to a point where we were just like fighting, like about everything. I'm like, where are you going with who? And blah, blah. And he's just like, dude, like, not even my mom asked me that. I'm like, oh, sorry.
- [38:54]
Alanized
You're like, I'm mamacita.
- [38:56]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
You.
- [38:57]
Alanized
You like. But mamacita do. That's crazy, you know? Okay, so you get pregnant at 15.
- [39:05]
So, you know, what was it like where you having symptoms prior that you were like, oh my God, I need to take a pregnancy test.
- [39:12]
What was it like in momento queas cuenta quesiesta y como Rex, you know?
- [39:19]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So right before I found out I was pregnant, we actually broke up because I was very, like, toxic. And I think he was just over it, so.
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- [42:01]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [42:02]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I was like, oh, my gosh, what is it? And I just would not. The nauseous never left me that entire day. So the next day I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, am I pregnant? Am I pregnant? Am I pregnant? I just started. I just kept thinking about it, and that day I just decided to ask my stepdad. I was like, hey, can you take me to go pick up some stuff at the dollar tree for my project? And he's like, yeah, okay. He takes me and, like, I'm at the dollar tree, and I have a bag, right? I'm like, okay. I have to make it seem like it's a project, but I only have $20. But I need a pregnancy test. So I bought two pregnancy tests. I bought a poster sister. I bought, like, markers. I bought, like, letters, like, for the project and stuff. I throw in a bag. And like, right before, like, leaving the store, I'm like, should I get the pregnancy test and put in my pocket, or should I, like, leave it in the bag?
- [42:43]
Alanized
Yeah, yeah.
- [42:44]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And my stepdad's a very. If you get A package at his house? He's like, it's to my house?
- [42:51]
Yes. He's like, what are you guys getting?
- [42:54]
Yes, that's him. I was so nervous. I remember walking out and I was like, like, I do what I do. And his car was, like, parked right there. And I'm like, well, it has to stay in the bag. So I walked to the car and I put it on my feet, and I'm like, like, hiding with my little patas. And I had the poster board, and I put it on top, and he's like, what'd you get? What'd you get? And I'm like, nothing, dude. You're so annoying. Because I was always like, you know. So he's like, okay, whatever.
- [43:17]
You're always annoying, bro. So he's like, what'd you get? What'd you get? Did you get it, like, something to eat? And I'm like, no, I didn't, dude, just leave me alone. If you want something, go inside. And he's like, okay. And so he's like, well, I gotta go to O'Reilly's. I had to pick something up. I'm like, okay. So he goes to O'Reilly's, and he gets off, and I'm like, grab it, and I stick it in my pants. And I'm like. And he comes back inside. I'm like, look, I didn't get anything, bro. Like, I tie it back up and we go home. And as soon as I get home, I FaceTime Nathaniel. And I'm like, oh, my gosh.
- [43:43]
Alanized
Like, were you texting him this whole time? Like, hey, I might be pregnant. I'm gonna get a pregnancy test. Or you just called him straight out the bat, like, hey, look what I.
- [43:49]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Have straight off the bat, like, I just had the test in my hand, and I'm like, dude, like, I'm gonna take it. And he was playing his video games. He's like, so there I go. I'm, like, taking the test, and I flip it down, and I'm, like, waiting around, waiting around, waiting around. And after, like, a minute or two, I finally, like, flip it over, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. The two lines were dark. They were, like, dark red. So I was like. I was so nervous, and I went on the phone and I showed it to him, and he's like, you're lying. He didn't even take off his headset. Nothing's like, you're lying. I'm like, why would I lie? Like, I know I'm crazy, but, like.
- [44:19]
Alanized
Were you, like, freaking out.
- [44:21]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. 100. Everything started going through my head. I'm like, okay, if my grandpa finds out I'm pregnant, he'll literally, like, hate me. If my mom finds out I'm pregnant, she'll just think like, verito. Like, after everything, like, I've been so open and honest with you, Everything just started racing through my head, like, oh, my gosh, we live in a three bedroom house now. There's like, four kids, two parents. Yeah. Like, how am I gonna do it? So I just started thinking of things like that. Like, it's gonna be senior year, like, I'm gonna go to college. And just. Things just started going through my head. But the first thing I did was I ran to my room, took the pregnancy test, and I'm showing Nathaniel like, this. This is real. Like, believe me. And finally he starts to believe me, and he's like, oh, like, I'm gonna be a dad. And that's when it hit us. We were just like, how long did.
- [45:01]
Alanized
You wait to tell your parents? Like, were you scared or you're like, oh, my God. How did you guys tell your parents? His parents. Como fuetodues.
- [45:09]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So he told his mom way sooner than I told my mom. When I found out I was pregnant, I must have been like a month. A month pregnant. So then two, three months later, he decides to tell his mom over the phone. And I'm just like, okay, whatever. He tells her, and she. I guess in his head, I don't really remember how the conversation went, but what I remember is that he said she didn't, like, overly, overly react. She was just like, oh, my God, what the. Like, you know, like, okay, I'll talk when I get home, because she was at work or school or something. So then when it came to me telling my parents, I actually did. I didn't want to. I must have been like four. Four months pregnant already. And my aunt had actually found out first. So I had told my cousins, and I had asked them like, hey, can we go to Planned parenthood to find out if I'm pregnant? Like, I just want to find out if I'm pregnant. And they're like, okay, yeah. So they take me to Planned parenthood, and they're like, no, you need an appointment. And I said, okay. So we go back home, and then I make the appointment, and then my cousin takes me back, and I'm doing this all behind my older sister's back too, because I. I just. I couldn't tell her.
- [46:12]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [46:12]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So my cousin takes me and I, like, I'm at the appointment, and the lady's like, yeah, you are pregnant. You're actually like, 14, 16 weeks, something like that. And I was like, okay, so it's real. And that's when it kind of okay this. There's no going back. Like, I'm obviously pregnant. And that's when they asked me, like, oh, would you like an abortion? These are the options. I'm just like, okay, no. Like, I just. I. I just knew, like, I. I wanted to keep her. When I went back home, everything just felt so different. Like, even just, like, sitting on my bed, I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, in, like, this much months, I'm gonna have a baby here. I'm gonna be pregnant with the belly. And everything just started, like, going through my head. It kind of felt like a movie. Like, kind of like dance over even. Have you ever, like, all those, like, videos?
- [46:54]
Alanized
Oh, yeah.
- [46:55]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yes. I'm like, okay, I'm in cheer. I'm in softball. Like, how is that gonna happen? Like, we need a job. How am I gonna get all these things? And everything just started going through my head. And that day, I guess my aunt had overheard my cousins talking about it, or I don't know exactly how it went down, but she ended up finding out. And she school the next day, and she's like, hey, Verito, I found out you were pregnant. And I just want to make sure you're going to tell your mom, and I want to make sure that you're making the right decision and you're not just doing something because, like, you're scared, you know? I think you need to talk to your mom about everything. And that's when I was like, okay, it.
- [47:28]
Alanized
I guess.
- [47:30]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And then at that point, I was already in cheer, and I was like, oh, well, senior nights on Friday. Like, I can't tell my mom yet. Like, let me. Let me. Yeah. Like, let me at least cheer. And then by that point, no, I was, like, fairly small. Super small. Like, tiny, tiny, tiny. I actually took a picture. Like, my cheer outfit, everything, like, I was full on cheering. So nobody at school knew. And I was, like, four or five months pregnant already. And, yeah, my mom. Nobody could tell. And I was still wearing my little extra, extra small. That day, she decides to come over to help me tell my mom. And we're all sitting down at the, like, the table. So my aunt goes, verito has to tell you something, Lupita. And mom's like, what? What is it? And she's like, tell her. And I'm sitting there, and I'M just like, yeah, yeah. And I'm like. The words could never leave my mouth. I could never say, like, I'm pregnant. So when we're sitting there, my mom's like, tell me. Tell me. And she just starts crying because she thinks she had a feeling. And she's like, just tell me. Just tell me. What is it? What is it? And then my aunt's, like, looking at me like, tell her. And I'm like, I can't. Like, I couldn't say.
- [48:32]
Alanized
That's what I would have said.
- [48:36]
Literally.
- [48:37]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Because I was just so. Like, I was so ashamed. So, like, I already knew, and I just, like, I couldn't. I couldn't say it. So then that's when I look at my mom, and I'm like, Like, I'm. I'm. I'm. And she's like, you're what? And I'm just like, I'm.
- [48:51]
Alanized
I'm.
- [48:52]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And she's like, are you pregnant? And I'm like, yeah. She's like. And that's when she starts, like, crying. And she, like, looked at me. I remember, like, her eyes, like, kind of, like, turned into. To, like. Like, worry. She wasn't mad. She didn't, like, cuss me out. She didn't ask me questions, like, nothing. She just, like, looked at me like.
- [49:12]
No, you. So, yeah, that's when I immediately. I was just like, okay, shoot. Like, my mom's, like, not angry, but disappointed. And that's when, like, it's like, a different level of like.
- [49:22]
Alanized
Like, you felt like you let her down? Basically, yeah. Did you, in that moment feel like, like, you know, when you get pregnant so young, you hear a lot of, like.
- [49:31]
You know, you're not going to be able to do great things in life because you got pregnant so early. Like, did you get those thoughts or were there people around you that would make you feel that way?
- [49:40]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I feel like I was surrounded by a lot of positivity. Like, my mom and my stepdad were super. They were obviously disappointed, but they didn't make me feel less than okay. So I remember that day when I. They, like, after, like, they had found out, my stepdad, I walked out. And he would always make his breakfast in the morning, so it was always a breakfast burrito, breakfast sandwich, just something. Yeah, like, anything. French toast. And I remember walking out every day, I would not take his breakfast because I'd be like, I'm not hungry. And that day I walked out, I was so embarrassed. I was like, my gosh. And I had my head down. And then he looks at me, he gives me the burrito. And I was like, no, I'm okay. And he's like, no, today is the day that everything changes. It's no longer about you. This is the day that you become self. Selfless, not selfish, selfless. And he's like, it's not about you anymore, Verito. And I was like, oh, shoot, you're right.
- [50:25]
Alanized
Like, it's real.
- [50:26]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
- [50:27]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
He's like, you have to eat. Like, you know, the baby needs it. And when he said the baby, I.
- [50:30]
Alanized
Was like, you're right. You're like, that's crazy. You're so young too. Yeah.
- [50:36]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So my stepdad was the one who made it like, real. Like, he's like, okay, this is no longer about you, but I'll like, wake up now. You gotta eat, you gotta get healthy, you gotta make sure you're doing what you need to do. And he's like, here's your burrito. Burrito. Take it to school, eat it. And you're gonna like, make an appointment. And. Yeah. Like, it's just crazy to know that he wasn't angry. And I think that's what every, like, teen parent needs.
- [50:56]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [50:57]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
It's like, we understand we messed up. We understand, like, the consequences that come with it. And it's just like being angry doesn't fix the situation. It doesn't help the situation. So like, why be angry about it instead? Have somebody like, that's like, hey, this is what's happening. This is what's gonna happen. Like, this is how, how it affects this. Like, let's get it, let's do it, let's go. And when you have that sort of person, like, by your side, you just feel like, supportive. Yes. Like you could do it. It's not so negative. And my stepdad was like that. My mom110 was like that. But something that they never did was like, oh my gosh, I hope you're having a boy. Like, they were never like that. They were very much like, this is serious. Like, this is not. Hehe. Haha.
- [51:36]
Alanized
Like, they were excited, but they were like, not like, oh my gosh, she's pregnant. She's pregnant. You know what? She's pregnant. Let's go ahead and see if everything's okay. Let's guide her through her pregnancy. Let's make sure she and the baby's okay. But it wasn't something that they were like, screaming out of the top of their lungs. Like.
- [51:53]
You guys.
- [51:54]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, okay. No, like at all. Like, and that's what's so, like, different because I remember when my husband told his family it was just so different because they were like that, like, oh, my gosh, she's pregnant. Oh, my gosh, I wonder what she's gonna look like. I wonder if she's having a boy or girl. Like, they threw me a whole gender reveal, but versus my mom and stepdad.
- [52:11]
Alanized
Were just like, like, she's pregnant.
- [52:15]
What the fuck are we gonna do?
- [52:16]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yes. So a gender reveal to them was like, what the heck? Like, you wanna throw a gender reveal for a 15 and 16 year old? Like, no. So they. It was just so. The. The views were just so different. Like, my mom was just, this is serious. And then on the other side was just like, well, you're having a baby, so it's exciting.
- [52:35]
Alanized
I also do feel like the expectations are a little bit different for the women and for the men. The male, you know, like, for the male, they get so excited. I feel like every single time I actually hear about, you know, teen pregnancies, I feel like the family of the male is always more excited, like, oh, my God, yes, you're turning into a dad. But I feel like the. The parents of the girl are more worried because it's like, what the is my daughter gonna do? Like, oh, my gosh, she's gonna be the one going through the pregnancy, going through the pain, going through everything. So.
- [53:03]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Oh, 100. Because now that I've gone through it, I understand it. Like, if Addie tells me she's pregnant, I'm like, oh, God, my gosh. The birth, like, giving birth, we never realize how much, like, things can go on. And that's when I talk to my mom now about it. She's just like, now do you understand why I was like that? I'm like 110. Because if Addie were to tell me, I.
- [53:22]
Would probably cry because I'm just like, oh, my gosh. Even, like postpartum depression, it all comes with having a baby. And I, like you said for the males, like, it's like, they don't really. My husband did battle through depression, but like, in a different way versus, like your body changing and all these things that happen, happen like this. It's just. It's different for women and men. So also, it is. I think it was a little bit different too, because my parents financially didn't have the money to like, like, help. Help us like that. Like, they couldn't raise Addie and me. Like, okay, don't worry, we're gonna buy you a car. Don't worry, we'll buy the car seat. And don't worry.
- [53:54]
Alanized
Go to school. We'll take care of her. Yeah.
- [53:56]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. It's like, it wasn't like that with them. They're just like, okay, Shit's real. Like, you still got to figure out how to take care of them because they still had to go to work. It's like, there's nobody to babysit your baby. Like, you have to figure out how to babysit babies. Like, who's gonna babysit her? How are you gonna go to school and do all of this? And how is he gonna do it? How are you pregnant?
- [54:11]
Alanized
Hard?
- [54:12]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
No. Because I covet happened. So when I found out I was pregnant junior year, I was very tiny. And then I gave birth in April, and that's when the shutdown. The shutdown happened in March. So I didn't even get to be, like, super huge. Because even, like, right before then, I was already doing classes online because I graduated early, so I didn't go back to school in my senior year. I graduated junior year, and that was it. So I didn't really have to go back to school with a kid. And like, we were all zoom after I had Addy.
- [54:38]
Alanized
Did you ever see anyone in your school years, like, be pregnant where you would be like, oh, my God, I know I'm gonna get those stairs. Like, she would. Or I know people are gonna be talking like, oh, she's pregnant. Like, did you worry about that a little bit in the beginning?
- [54:50]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
You know what? Yes. Because I feel like I would force my pants to fit. I remember when my belly started showing, I would get, like, a little cheongo, and I would wrap it around my little button, and I would make it fit. Cause I'm like, nobody could know. They had to think I'm skinny even. Even though they already knew. Like, it was already out there. Like, I posted the gym. Like, Addie was a girl. I already posted all of that. But in. I was just still like, I'm not pregnant. Pregnant guys. Like, it's still very, though. Like, I'm still. Like, it just wasn't. I guess I also think nobody really cared in my school. I wasn't. Like, I didn't really feel like I had any stares like that. Nobody was really talking behind my back. I mean, I'm pretty sure there was a couple whispers, but I don't think anybody, like, made me feel, like, less.
- [55:32]
Alanized
Than too much to where it affected you.
- [55:34]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yes, exactly. Like, I didn't even notice it. I didn't care. Like, my friends all treated me regular. If anything, everybody Would be like, can I touch your tummy? Like, is your baby kicking? Like, oh, yeah. Feel it? It's on me.
- [55:43]
Alanized
I'm like, bumping it up. I'm like, it's the burger you just had.
- [55:48]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I didn't really get a lot of hate. I didn't. Honestly. Thank God I didn't.
- [55:53]
Alanized
You give birth.
- [55:56]
What was that? Like, where were you at?
- [56:00]
And what was that whole experience like for you?
- [56:02]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I gave birth during COVID so it was a lot different than just. Just a regular schmegular birth Because I wasn't allowed to have my mom there. Well, I was allowed to have one person, only one guest. There was no visitors, nothing like that. When I realized that I was going into labor, I didn't know 100 I was going into labor because I felt like I was just being exaggerating. Like, I was. I remember sitting down. Actually, it's the first time he ever spent the night. So when I was pregnant, I remember asking my mom like, hey, mom, can I spend the night at his house? And I'll be like, no. And then finally one day she's like, well, you already did the worst. Like, you already did the worst. Whatever. Like, you can go. You can go, but I want you back in the morning. Blah, blah. Like, you can go. Fine, whatever. You. You already are. You're pregnant. Like, that's the worst.
- [56:40]
Alanized
I can't.
- [56:41]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Exactly. So then my mom's like, okay, you could go. So I packed my bag, and I'm so excited. I spend the night at his house. Probably, like, I spent the night maybe like five, six, maybe eight times when I was pregnant, and he never spent the night at my house. And so. Well, also because I shared a room with my sister. So until, like, that switch was made. So both my sisters. I have three sisters, and it was. Well, there's four of us. So me and my older sister would share a room. My two little sisters would share another room, and my parents would share one room because it was a three bedroom house. And I remember my older sister had to go into another room with my little sister. And my little, little sister, that's like five at the time, slept with my parents. Okay, so me and Nathaniel finally had a room to ourselves. And I remember I was so excited to, like, have him there and, like, have like, just like my little family in my room. I remember I bought a headboard because I never had a headboard. We just had, like, the little, like.
- [57:29]
Alanized
On top of each other.
- [57:30]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah.
- [57:30]
Alanized
The harder one.
- [57:31]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah.
- [57:32]
Alanized
What was it called? The base.
- [57:33]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
But no, like, pretty little, like, headboard. So I remember I was like, okay, I have to save all my money. Like, I have to, like, he has to come into a cute room, you know? And we didn't have it like that. Like, my mom could not just be like, here's a hundred dollars for a new headboard. So I remember I sold all my old stuff. So I had. I was a catcher before for softball, and, like, the gear was a little bit expensive, so I sold it, and I got the money from that, and I was like, okay, I could redo my room. And I remember I had, like, $200. I was like, okay, 200. What could I do? So I bought a little headboard. My grandma bought me a new culture. Like, is it a Colton? The mattress? Yeah, the mattress.
- [58:05]
Alanized
Yeah. I call it Colton. People always say that's a sofa, but I'm like, it's a Colton to me.
- [58:09]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
That's what we said.
- [58:09]
Alanized
That's why I grew up with Colchon.
- [58:11]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Okay? So my grandma had bought me that, and I had bought the little headboard. My other grandma had surprised me with the bassinets. I was, like, making my room look cutesy, right? And so one night I finally tell him, like, hey, like, you have to come over now. And he's like, okay, fine. Like, I'll take my stuff. I'll take my, like, laptop, watch movies. I'm like, okay. And at this point, I was already. Already 39 weeks pregnant, okay? And so we spend that. He spent the night, and we're cuddling, we're watching the movie and stuff. And then we're about to go to sleep, and we're just like, like, talking. Like, oh, my gosh, like, what do you think her name's gonna be? Because we still hadn't decided, like, 100, her name. And I'm like, adeline. It has to be Adeline. And we're going between Adeline and Aleya. Or I can't remember the other one. So we're just going back and forth, and we were just like, okay, whatever. And we're falling asleep. And I remember I've, like, had, like, a huge stomachache. And I'm like, like, oh. Like, it's all the chips. Like, embarrassing. I'm gonna go poop right now.
- [59:00]
Alanized
I haven't farted in front of him.
- [59:02]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yes. I was so shy. So then finally, I'm like, okay, in the restroom, I go, restroom, Nothing. Then I go back to my bed. I'm like, okay, whatever. And I'm going back to sleep. And then Again. I'm like, okay. Restroom? Nothing. And it just kept happening over and over again. And then it became stronger, and I was like, okay. Like, this is like, I have to go. I have to call either my mom or I have to, like, go to the hospital. One or the other. So we finally decided I'd knock on my mom's room. Oh, no. We were going back and forth. I was like, should I say. Should I call my mom? Should I tell my mom? Should I tell mom? And he's like, no. Like, are you. Are you sure? And I was like, yeah. And he's like, well, just tell her. What's the worst? Like, we just come back, and so we're all, like. Like, little mouses, like, in the room. And so then I finally knock on my mom's bed. Oh, her bedroom. And I'm like, mom. Mom. And she opens. My mom's so dramatic with things like that. She, like, opens her. She's like, what? Like, ready? Like, ready for, like, flight mode, even for things. Like, she'll be like, I smelled fire. And she's like, going around that.
- [59:55]
And she's like, oh, it was my dream. I'm like, so she's dramatic like that, right? So, like, mom.
- [59:59]
Alanized
Mom.
- [59:59]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
She's like, what? What happened? Are you okay? What's wrong? What's wrong? And I was like, yeah, I'm okay. Like, I was like, but my stomach hurts. And she's like, are you sure? Because it's gonna be like, you know, with COVID and such. Like, I think you're gonna have to go to the. What is it, the emergency?
- [60:11]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [60:12]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And she's like, you know, with, like, Covid going around, like, are you positive? And I was like, yeah, I'm sure. Like, I think this is, like, really bad. And she's like, okay, give me five minutes. Like, in five minutes, if it's really bad, then yes. I'm like, okay. And so I'm waiting there. And she's like, we'll start packing our stuff. So we're packing our stuff, right? Remember telling him, where's your bag? And he's like, I didn't bring it. Like, to pack the hospital bag. I'm like, you didn't bring it? He's like, no, I forgot it. Oh, dude, I was livid. I was like, whatever, bro. Like, you got to take what you have. Because I. I already. I was ready to go. I had all my bags. I had my diaper bag. And so my mom comes back, and she's like, are you okay? And I'm like, no, like I need to go. And she's like, okay. So we, she gets the car ready and then my two sisters. Because my little, my. My five year old sister, she was too little to know, but I had at that time, she thinks she was like 9 or 10. And then I had my 17 year old sister almost 18 at that point. And they're like standing outside their room because our rooms are like right next to each other. And so they're like right here and I'm just like getting out and they're just like standing there staring at me, like smiling. They're like, are you gonna have the baby? I was like, yeah. And so then we were all just like giggling. I wasn't too scared because like the pain was a lot.
- [61:14]
Alanized
Okay.
- [61:14]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And then like seeing my sisters happy, like it was just like everybody. Like my mom was even like, like, like a little. You weren't scared of the labor in the beginning? No, because I'm like, it's not real. Like in my head, like even like being pregnant, I never thought that I was like 100. It was weird. Like I not like I disassociated, but like it was like a part of me was just like, it's not gonna happen like until I have the baby in my hands. Like I'll be like I'm a mom. And so like I would. Yeah, I knew I was having a baby, but it wasn't just like I. I guess I just didn't connect. Like not to like it felt like fake. Like I'm like I'm living like a dream or something. Like it's not real. Real.
- [61:48]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [61:49]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And so finally we leave, right? And I remember my mom was like crying. She's like, oh my gosh. Like, are they gonna let me in or not? Are they? And she already knew there's only one person allowed. And so my mom goes to the front desk and she's like, hey, like my daughter's giving birth. Whatever, we're still in the car. And they're like, okay, one visitor. Like one, one person. One more person with her mom's like, well she's underage and she's like she's pregnant. So one person and that's it. And then I was like, okay, fine. And so Nathaniel, me go in there together. She's just like sitting in the car and she's like, verito, let me know if anything happens. Like, let me know.
- [62:24]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [62:24]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And that day it happened so fast. I went in at probably like 2 in the morning. And then I had Adelyn at 5 in the morning.
- [62:31]
Alanized
Oh, only three hours in.
- [62:32]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah.
- [62:33]
Alanized
Okay.
- [62:33]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And they were gonna send me home because I was. I wasn't dilating, so I was contracting, but there was no dilating. And they were like, oh, okay. Like, basically they thought I was over exaggerating. Like, okay, yeah, we see the contractions, but you have no diet.
- [62:45]
Alanized
Like, you have, like, another two days to go.
- [62:47]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yes, exactly. So then they were already getting my discharge papers ready. And I remember it, like, flipped I from, like, 30 minutes to, like, next. I was just, like, going crazy. Like, I was screaming. I didn't think. I thought girls were dramatic when they scream. No, I was holding on to the railings, and they didn't give me no epidural, nothing. Like, they had given me that thing to start giving me, like, the iv. So they had put the IV in, not the iv, but they had basically got the needle ready, and they hadn't given me anything. Oh, they kind of.
- [63:13]
Alanized
The d. Is that what it is? It's like. I don't know.
- [63:18]
I'm like, we're tiktokers, not nurses. I. I don't know the terminology, but I know I get that little thingy. Thingy.
- [63:24]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Thingy in the thing. Yeah. So we're waiting there, and I remember, I'm like, oh, can I get something? And so Nathan, I'm like, go tell them. And he was little. So he's like, we already told him, like, they're coming. And I'm like, no, go tell them. And so finally he's like, he gets out of the room, and he's like, like, looking through, scratching his head like a little kid, you know, and he's.
- [63:42]
Alanized
Like, whose little brother is this? Ah, the nurses.
- [63:44]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
They're like, hey, somebody came to the department. So he's like, standing there. He's like, excuse me, excuse me. And then finally, like, somebody, like, talks to him, and he's like, can she get something stronger? I'm like, bro, you're making me sound like all, like. Like, I'm, like, feeding for something crazy. And I'm just like, dude, tell them I'm in pain. And so finally he goes back out there. She's like, she's in a lot of pain. And like, okay, we'll check in. Check in on her in a little bit. And so then I'm like, I need to go restroom. So then they would unplug me, and I would go to the restroom, and I'll come back, and I'm like, oh, I need to go restroom again. And so it was a back and Forth thing, because right before you give birth, you can. You feel like you need to go poop.
- [64:13]
Alanized
Okay.
- [64:13]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
It's that same feeling. I read about that. Yeah, no, it's that exact feeling. Like, it feels like like something's coming out, and you're like, oh, my gosh, I'm gonna poop myself. He's right here. So then I would go back and forth, back and forth, and then finally, like, I just couldn't take it anymore. The nurses come, and they come to check me, and they're like, oh, my gosh, she's 9 centimeters. And so I stand up because they put me in the. They were gonna put me in the wheelchair. And, like, that's when my water. Yeah, my water broke. And, like, there was blood everywhere. And I remember we, like, they were quick on it. There was, like, six, seven nurses, like, pushing me room, trying to get me a room, calling, trying to see if the doctor's ready. And then I remember as soon as I got into the room, I'm like, can I go restroom? Because it's the same feeling. And one nurse messed up because she's like, okay, yeah. She sits me on the toilet, and I just didn't want to get up. I'm like, no, I'm pushing. I have to push. And I'm sitting on the toilet, pushing. And they're like, no, no, no, the doctor's coming. They, like, basically like, Nathaniel, they're like, grab her. Grab her. And they're, like, carrying me to the. The.
- [65:07]
Alanized
Like, what the Is going on?
- [65:10]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
No, it wasn't. It was Ari coming. And so then I go to the bed thingy, and sure enough, like, five minutes later, two minutes later, I gave birth. I gave birth.
- [65:19]
Alanized
What was that moment like, you know, being pregnant for nine months and then. And you're like, wow. Like, this is real. Like, I'm a mom now. Like, how did you feel in that moment?
- [65:29]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
In that moment? I can say. I. I feel like I was so. I. I was embarrassed to be. Be lovey. It's. It's so. It's sad because I. I remember, like, I have a picture, and, like, I had. They put Addie on my chest, and, like, I. Like, I didn't know how to, like, show her affection right away. Yeah, I remember I had her, and, like, I was, like, touching her little, like, head, and she was, like, crying, and the lady was telling her, like, tell her mommy's here. Tell her mommy's here. And I'm like, mommy, I'm a mom. Like, I couldn't. Like, it just didn't, like, connect. So I remember, like, touching, like, Addie, and I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, this is mine. And I remember, like, looking at Nathaniel, and I just, like, couldn't believe it. Like, that's when, like, I finally. I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, she's mine.
- [66:11]
Alanized
Yeah.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And so I'm just, like, touching her and touching her, and then finally she starts calming down, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, it's just. It was just insane to me because I felt like she knew I was her mom.
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Alanized
Yeah.
- [66:22]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So then they take her, they weigh her. Everybody's like, oh, my God, she looks like her dad. And it just like being called mom, him being called dad. That's what I was like.
- [66:30]
Alanized
It was, like, a surreal moment for you.
- [66:32]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
It was so beautiful.
- [66:33]
Alanized
What was it like? Like, adjusting to, like, motherhood, being so young. Did you ever feel at moments like, oh, my God, like, everyone else my age is, like, barely, you know, doing their thing, and I'm over here with the baby. Was it hard? Like, the sleepless nights, you know, the having to get the baby on a schedule? What was all that?
- [66:50]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Like, you know what? I loved it. I don't think I ever compared myself, even till this day. I never compared myself to, like, anybody else my age, because I feel like we're all just living different lives. And I remember. Remember I had my friends over, and they were just, like, shook. Like, I think that was the first time where I was like, oh, like. Like, the last time I seen them, I was just a little girl. Like, and now I'm a whole mom. But I think for me, it was just, like, I was just ready, like, okay, this is my baby. Like, this is mine. This is my Addie. Like, I just. I. I. I just adapted to it quick.
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Alanized
It's like what they say. Like, as soon as you have a baby, like, that mommy mode gets activated.
- [67:24]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah.
- [67:25]
Alanized
Oh, yeah. No soy una nina anymore. Like, okay, I have a whole baby to take care of. What was that like, you know, having a responsibility so huge and having a baby, but still being a teen, did you feel like it was sometimes, like, hard? Like, oh, like, maybe it was school, you know? Like, I'm over here having to have a baby, but I still have to do school work. Like, were you guys living at the time together already, or.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
No.
- [67:47]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [67:47]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So he had moved in to my mom's house, and we're living in that room. Yes, yes, yes. So as soon as we had Addie, like, it was every night. We never spent A night without each other. The one time I realized that, oh, shoot, like, damn, like, I'm doing it by myself. Well, obviously with him. But at the time, he was going to school and work. Yeah. So he was gone like 15, 16 hours of the day, and he was sleeping the other couple. So it was just like, it was me and Addie and then Nathaniel working hard for us. So I remember one night, I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, Addie was colicky and I was just so tired. I'm like, I need to take a shower. I just want to take a shower. I just want to take shower. I just want to take shower. And I remember, like, knocking on my sister's room. And I'm like, hey, can you watch Addie while I shower? And she's like, no, I'm going to sleep. And I'm like, but like, please, it's just like a five minute shower. And she's like, no. Like, I'm tired. Yeah. And I was like, oh, my gosh. And I was so mad at her. I was like, oh, my God, I hate you. Like, wait until you have a baby. I'm never gonna help you, ever. But when my stepdad, I was. I remember my stepdad had overheard us, and he was just like, verito, like, this is life. Like, even if it's just a shower, like, you have to figure out how to do it on your own sometimes. Like, just because she's your sister, she's not entitled to help you. And it's not her being like, oh, my God, I don't want to help you. Like, she would always help me. But it's like that one night, she's like, I'm tired. Like, sorry. I want to relax. I want to go to sleep. I don't want to watch Addie crying.
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Alanized
You know, Mr. Vascontando, that, you know, during this time, you also, you know, we're having a very rocky relationship with your Sue Gray. So, you know, what was that relationship like at that time? How did that make you feel? And did you ever feel like, you know, you're sweating? That made pregnancy or even motherhood harder for you.
- [69:21]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So right after we had Adelyn, I can say, in the beginning of finding out that I was pregnant with Addie, she was very, very helpful. So I remember one day she pulls up in, like, a truck filled with things like, it was like Pampers wipes, a Diaper Genie, like, all the things that I really wanted. Like, with Addy, Like, I remember she even asked me like, hey, what kind of Swing do you want? So she was very, very, very helpful in the beginning. Very loving. And as soon as we had Addie, she even, like, decorated Nathaniel's room. Like, full nursery, too. Like, guy nursery theme. Like, Nathaniel had, like, the dad nursery room. And after we had her, I felt like Nathaniel wasn't really there for, like, living there with her anymore. So he would sleep with us. But then she wanted him to come back every other week. So it was be. It would be like one week at my mom's, one week at hers, one week at my mom, one week at hers. And it was. She wanted us all to come back, back and forth. And so with COVID around, it just wasn't easy, you know, to keep doing that. So when she realized, okay, I'm never. My son's not around anymore. He's always over there, and he just doesn't come over here. And he was in, like, even for, like, holidays and stuff. I remember, like, Mother's Day, my first Mother's Day, because it's May, and we had April 27, so it was, like, probably, like, two weeks after having Addie. She had made it, like, a thing. Like, okay, well, I'm your mom. Like, you have to come over here for Mother's Day. So that Mother's Day, I remember he was so confused, like, because he's like, like, where do I go? Like, my mom's over here telling me, like, hey, you have to be over here. But then my girl just gave birth to my kid. Like, now I. I made her the mom, so it's. Where do I go? So I felt like it started becoming. We started just, like, tension. Yeah, the tension started. Tension started rising because she wasn't happy anymore. Like, okay, now you guys are not here. So then at that point, when she realized, okay, they're over there more, she would start, like, threatening him. So would be like, he had. He was using. Borrowing her car to go to school and work. And then it'd be like, okay, if you don't come over here, or if you're not going to live here anymore, then you are not mine to take care of. Then I need to take that car back to, like, fend for my own family. Like, I'm. I'm here to take care of my family, and if you're not here in this household, you are not mine to take care of anymore. So then he would be like, oh, like, if I'm not going over to my mom's, if I'm not making my mom happy, then that means I'm going To get this car taken away. And so then he would go back and then I'd be like, what the? Like, yeah, literally this Saturday, I don't want to go spend the night. Like, I literally am so exhausted. Like, there's been so much going on. Like, I don't want to spend the night. We were just there last week. Like, I don't want to go back and forth. I don't want to pack up baddie stuff. And so then he'd be like, oh my gosh. Like, so he'd be stuck in the middle a lot because I'm like, no. Like it's not happening. I'm not living over there. That's just not happening. I just, I can't do that. Especially because it's like he's not even home. So how am I going to be at his house and he's not even there. So like, if I need to like anything, like I just also I. This is like, I'm 6:17 at the time now and I'm like, how. I wasn't comfortable yet. I was still a kid. So then at that point we realized that it was just. There was just going to be a lot of tension just with any decision that we made.
- [72:16]
Alanized
Do you feel like she felt like her son was almost like taken away from her?
- [72:20]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Oh, 100%, yeah. Because she even told me the first big fight that kind of. We realized, okay, like shit's like hitting the, the fan. She had pulled out. So me and Nathaniel were talking. He had just gotten his first like big boy job. And we're just like, oh my gosh, like what are we going to buy? And he's like, oh, like I really want like this car. And we're like, okay, yeah, we need a car. Cuz like she would start like taking things away, you know, we're like, okay, we need a car. Like we don't want her to take it away. And then you don't have anything to take with you to go to work. And so then we decided like, we're going to get a car. And he's like, oh, I really want this Mustang. And we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because at that point I already had a Honda. And so I'm like, yeah, like we have the force, the four door car. Like you can get what you want to get. And I was excited too because I'm like, okay. Like I. What's his is mine and what's mine is his. And we've made that very clear since we got together. Like bank accounts we shared since, like, we had Addie, like, money, we shared everything. We shared everything. So at that point we were like, okay, like, let's go car shopping. So we start, like, looking at cars. And that's when he brings it up to his mom. He's like, hey, mom. Like, I'm looking into buying a car. Like, this is the type of car that I like. Blah, blah. But the guy was kind of a douche. And so the mom. His mom's like, oh, okay, like, I'll go. I'll go look myself. So she goes. And I guess that day she decides to pull him out a brand new car at a dealership without really, like, making sure it was okay.
- [73:37]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [73:37]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
You know, like, she kind of took initiative. Like, I'm gonna pull it out. Which at that time, I'm being present. Yeah. Without him being present. So she wanted to surprise him, which at that time we didn't really like it. Never really bought father does. So basically she decides she's gonna surprise him. Right? So that day she texts me like, hey, I got Nathaniel that car from, like a dealership. And we're like, oh. I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, no way. She's like, okay, this is how we're doing. It's how we're gonna surprise him. So she surprises him with a brand new car. We're all, like, ecstatic. We're all happy. And like, she has really good credit. So we were like, paying like 400 for a brand new car. We're like, oh, hell yeah. We're gonna pay 600 for a used car. Yeah. Insurance was like, stupid cheap. So then at that point, everything was good. Smooth sailing. And we decided to go to a lender to see if pre approved for a home. And all these things sounded like big things. But I told. I was like, okay, if we don't get it, we don't get it. But if we do, we do. And if we don't, we find out how to, you know. And so he's like, okay. So we go in and boom. Like, they were like, yeah, 100. You can get a house. And we're like, oh, my gosh. And they're like, but you need to give us this amount of money. We're like, oh, shit. And so we had a good amount of it, but I told him, like, I gotta go to work so we can save faster so we can, like, do this, we could do that. And so he's like, okay. So then I get a job, I'm working and I've never worked before. I'm working at a warehouse and he's also working. So he would work nights and I would work early mornings and then he would go to school. So we only saw each other like those two hours that he would come home and I would leave probably like an hour. We decided to live at his mom's because it would be easier since she was not working to take care of Adeline. So I'm going to work and everything's like, smooth sailing. I told my mom, like, hey, we're gonna move out, whatever. She's like, okay, that's fine. Like she, whatever, whatever works for us. My was like, it's fine with like, as long as it makes sense for you guys. And so then we move over there, everything's cool. And one day I remember like, I was like. Because I would take his Mustang because it was just, it was easier to just like get in the car and go. Because I would leave at 4 in the morning. And he's like, dude, like, you need something that you can like unlock, like, quick get in the car and leave. And then also he was like driving like 30 minutes every day. And he's like, dude, like, I just need like a wear and tear car. Like, I'm literally just going to school and I'm going to work and like, I'm getting dirty when I. With like tools and stuff. So like, we'll switch. So we switch cars. And I remember one day I get home from work and she had gotten like a bill, like her. The insurance bill or whatever. And she like gives it to me. She's like, oh, no, it was a tags. And she's like, hey, Vero, tags are due. Since you're the one driving it. I'm gonna give it to you since it's your car. And I was like, oh, okay. Like, like. And I just like, was kind of confused. And she's like, yeah. And like she keeps like saying the joke over and over again. And I'm like, okay. Like, I get it. I could tell, like, she had a little bit of. Of like to it. So like, okay, whatever. So then I. They were playing with Addie. So I grab at him like, okay, well, I'm gonna go to my mom's house. I take the bill and I leave to my mom's house. And then I would eat at my mom's house. I would go brush at my mom's house because I was just more comfortable there, you know. And then I would come back home and then I would take me and Addie a shower and we would go to bed. And it was just like an everyday type of thing where I would go to my mom's house, come back, go to my mom's house, come back. Because it was just like. It felt like I was getting, like, a lot of those little backhanded comments when I was there. So I was like, you know what? I just don't.
- [76:39]
Alanized
Or to even hear. You're like, oh, my God. If I tell him, he probably won't believe me. Or he probably thinks I am exaggerating. Did you ever feel that way? Like, would you tell him when you're slogan. I would tell you things like that.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
You know what? Yes, I do remember telling him. And then he would actually go and, like, defend me. And they would be like, oh, my gosh, we're just playing. Like, you guys are just like, that's just the way that we are. Like, this is how we've always been. If you don't like it, then I don't know what to tell you. I can't change. So it was always like that. Like, it was like he would be like, hey, why are you guys saying this? And then they're just like, we always.
- [77:07]
Yes, exactly, exactly. And so then he would kind of get to the point where it's like. Like, it's getting nowhere. If I go tell her, it gets nowhere. So then at that point, I remember one day, I was always like, I would always tiptoe because I'm like. Like, she had a way of cleaning. She had a way of doing things. So I never wanted to disrespect her in her home. Like, never. Like, I'm like, okay, I make sure I'm cleaning, I make sure I'm doing this, I make sure I'm doing that. One day, I take a plate of food upstairs, and because it was just in my diaper bag, like, I had literally just gotten for my mom's. And my mom was like, oh, here's leftovers for work. So I grabbed the food and I put in the diaper bag and I zip it up. Whatever. I put Addie in the car seat. We leave to his mom's house. We get there, I have the diaper bag on because that's the formula and stuff. And I'm like, I'm going upstairs. I'm tired. So I go upstairs, and food was not accepted upstairs at all. Like, you could not eat. You could not have food. You can have a drink upstairs. Unless it was water. So I go up there and I throw him with a bag, like, on the floor. Like, it was Zipped up everything. And I lay down with. With Addie, and we fall asleep. And then I'm like, oh, shoot. In the morning, I woke up and I was like, the food. And for summer, it was like, a weekend. And I told Nathaniel. I was like, nathaniel, the food's right there. And he's like, oh. So he grabs the food, he runs downstairs, puts it in the fridge, and then, like, he comes back up, and we go back to sleep. And then, like, see, this is the thing that I loved about them, though, because, like, we would sleep and they would, like, take Addie and, like, go play with her until we would wake up on the weekend. So they were very helpful. Helpful.
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Alanized
Like, they were involved.
- [78:27]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Very involved. Especially, like, with Addie. Like, they were very involved. And so then, anyway, so we go back downstairs, and I just see her with the plate of food yelling at Nathaniel, like, you don't just. You don't respect me in my house. You don't listen to me. I told you no food. If there's this food was not in here yesterday. So that means you had it overnight. There's gonna be ants. This is my house. When you get a house, you'll realize how, like, blah, blah. Like, she was just going to off.
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Alanized
Yeah.
- [78:52]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And that's when I was like, oh. Like, she obviously knows it's mine. Like, that's my mom's Tupperware. And then my. They, like, they cook completely different. Like, she obviously knows it was my mom's food, too. And so then I'm standing there like, oh, my gosh. Like, I was just so. Like, okay, whatever. Like, obviously she means it towards me. And then so she starts saying, like, and you guys, I told you guys, you're supposed to clean on Wednesdays. And blah, blah. You guys didn't clean. And then Nathaniel's like, it was Nathaniel supposed to be in charge of cleaning? So I'm like, bro, look at you now, getting yelled at, too. Because of you. But she wasn't directly yelling at me, but, like, she was saying, you guys, like, you know, like, even, like, loud.
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Alanized
Enough for you to hear it.
- [79:25]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yes. Like, I'm right there, and she's yelling at him right there. So it's like, yeah, I'm obviously getting. Like, I'm hearing it. You're obviously speaking about both of us.
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Alanized
Trying to be direct, but not trying to direct it towards me. But, you know, you wanna.
- [79:37]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, she means it towards both of us. So then she starts saying, like. And then Addie's diapers. Like, I told you guys to throw that Outside, they fucking smell inside the restroom. And she's, like, very, like, aggressive with her words, too. So I, like. I was like, like, oh, my God. She's like, we're done. She just starts listing things. And that's when I look at my husband. I'm like, oh. Like, at the time, we're just boyfriend and girlfriend, though. I was like. And so then we get in my mom, like, we get in my car and we head to my mom's, right? And I'm like, dude, I don't want to be here anymore. He's like, why? And I'm like, I just don't. Like, like, the yelling, the. Like, all this stuff. Like, I feel like I'm tiptoeing already. And now that we were yelled at for this, like, I don't want to be here anymore. That's when we decide together. I was like, I just don't think. Think. It's like, I don't feel comfortable here. I'm constantly going to my mom's. I feel like everything I'm doing, I'm pissing. I'm doing. I'm pissing her off. Because she would even say, like, oh, Vettel's never here. Vettel's never here. But it'll just leaves. And so I just told him, I think it's just better if I go over there because we don't fight. And so he agreed. And so we leave that day, and while he texts her, hey, we're leaving. And as soon as he texts her that, it's just, like, a big fiasco. Like, oh, like, is this even you texting me? And then she starts calling him. Say it to my face. And Nathaniel's, like, telling me, telling her, like. Like, this is, like, me. I'm telling you right now that I just. Is this not working? Like, the way that you guys are acting, the way that you guys make her feel uncomfortable. And then she's like, well, it's my house. It's my rules. I'm not going to change for anybody. He's like, I'm not telling you to, but I am like, you couldn't even be, like, a little bit lenient? Like, you obviously know she wasn't eating up there. And so then they have a big disagreement, and then his dad decides to text the next day, and he's like, hey, like, bring me my car, which is the car that. That she bought him as a present. And he's like, or give me, like, $25,000 for it. And he's like. And, like, he knew we had that, but it was for our house.
- [81:18]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [81:19]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And so then I remember me. And we sat there, we were talking about it, and he's like, dude, like, what do we do? And I'm like, well, obviously, we're not going to give him the money.
- [81:26]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [81:26]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And so then he's like, you know. Yeah. And we were just going back and forth, and he's like, okay, well. And he texted him back. He's like, well, I'm not going to give it to you guys just yet. Like, I have to, like, let me get a car first. And, like, let me finish. Figure it out, because we don't have a car. Well, we just had the Honda, but I was also working. And so a couple days later, she shows up with the cops at my mom's house for the car.
- [81:47]
Alanized
Like, to get it repoed off your property type.
- [81:50]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, like, I will. Because, like, she just wanted to take it back. But, like, my thing is, like, she could have just told him. Like, she didn't even tell him, like, oh, no, that doesn't work. Or, oh, come bring it Tuesday, she just showed up. And then the issue with that is, like, as soon as she. Like, even before that, though, is like, she had told Nathaniel, like, hey, for your phones. Like, you guys don't have to worry about it. Like, put it under my name. So you have nothing under your name. So when you buy a house, it's easy. And so he's like, okay, so he buys his phones on. Under her name, but we're paying everything. Like, everything's coming out of our pockets. The down payment, everything. Like, she had put, like, down a down payment on that Mustang, but it was like, later on, she's like, hey, I put a down payment, you know, so it's like, it's still our money, but it's just under her name. So when. With our phones, she decides to turn off my phone and not him.
- [82:33]
Alanized
His phone.
- [82:34]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. So that's when I told him, like, what the. Like, why just mine? Like, if this isn't pain.
- [82:39]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [82:40]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And if this is an issue between both of us, like, it's us, too, and we're having a disagreement with her. Why is it all. Why is it directed toward me? And then she would text him, like, oh, like, well, that day she had texted him, like, well, I bought you the car. I didn't buy it for her. And if her mom wants to buy her a car, she should. Then if she wants to get a car, then her mom should buy it for her, because I bought it for my son. So like, you see, like, how. How it's like. And then she'll tell him, I love you, son. See, like, I'm like, okay. Then, like, all that anger you're saying, it's directed toward me, like, you're mad at me.
- [83:09]
Alanized
Maybe in another chapter of his life where it's like, hey, you know, he's no longer maybe your. Your baby. He's now a whole dad. Yeah.
- [83:17]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yes. And I think that was, like, the start to, like, the whole fighting, because it was like, not fighting because it wasn't, like, back and forth. It was just like, her, like, doing, like, smart remarks. We he. For his card, he had to put down a beneficial tertiary. So if anything were to happen, like, who can take out his money? And it was both our. Of our money. Like, it wasn't just his money. It wasn't just my money. It was both of ours. We knew what we wanted to do with our money. So if something were to happen, it's like, he's like, I'm gonna leave it to you to figure it out. You're the one who has to deal with Addie, like, figure life out and stuff. And it's just like, how's the relationship now?
- [83:49]
Alanized
Do you feel like you guys were able to get past that? Has it gotten better?
- [83:55]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I feel like now. Now I. It hasn't gotten better because I just think, like, the smart remarks and just. I don't think that she's ever been able to fully accept the fact that, like, my husband has a family now because it's just. Even with a. I got pregnant with Ayla. And, like, I just think that she has, like, a lot of, like.
- [84:13]
She just doesn't want to talk about it because there's. I. I will. We will get over the situation and then she'll go back to it. She'll be like, oh, well, I can't wait for you to have a son so he be. So you can feel how I feel. He's like, yeah, see what I'm saying? So I. I feel like she's hurt.
- [84:27]
Alanized
She's still trying to, like, be like. But my feelings are valid without really being like, no, I get it. But, like, your son is a dad now. He needs to worry about his family, not about, like, his mom. What is that word when they say.
- [84:44]
Familia? And now, like, the worry is of you, your child, and your parents partner. Do you feel like she wasn't able to accept that or what do you think?
- [84:51]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, like, at all. I think, like, she had, like, a vision for her son, like, oh, he's gonna do this, he's gonna do that. And then the fact that he didn't, like, now it's, like, completely switched and we're doing a completely different thing. I feel like she blames me for it because she. She's very like, a type A person. Like, this, this, this, and this is gonna happen, but it's happening, but just a different way. Like, her son's doing amazing, but it's like. It's just different now. It's like a different route. And I understand. Like, that's why I told my husband, like, we forgave her the first time, we forgave her the second time, time. And it's like, it comes out of my own heart. I never get an apology. I never get like, hey, buddy, though, I'm sorry for everything that I've done to you. Like, I'm sorry for what I've done to your family. Like, it's just like, we get none of that. If anything, it's like, I'm sorry, but this is the way that I am. And it's kind of like. Like, how am I gonna, like, accept?
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Alanized
So you're not really sorry?
- [85:36]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. So then I, like, I'm like, okay, well, she's just a broken mom, you know? Like, that's how I see it. I feel for her. Like, I. I've even had conversations with her where at I'm. I'm like, I. Like, I. And I told my husband, like, I do miss talking to your mom. I do miss hanging out with her because she's so lovable. And she's like, die hard. Like, she'll do everything for you. And honestly, like, what breaks my heart the most is that, like, my Addie, she loves her. So the other day, Addie was like, oh, my gosh. Like, I miss my grandma. Like, why doesn't she need me? And I was, like, crying because I was like, like, we do have good relationships with her, a good relationship with her, but it's just like, I don't know. And I even told Addie. I was like, oh, like, she'll call one day. She'll call. And I talked to my husband about it. I'm like, I'm so angry because it's like, I've done nothing to you. And I just feel like Addie doesn't deserve that. Like, Ayla, last time she saw Ayla was. She was three months, and it's like, not even a message. Like. Like, what did we do to hurt you so bad, to just hate us? Like, that's What I want to know, even with like everything that's happened with my dad, like, how do you hate your kids?
- [86:44]
Alanized
Yeah. I hope that you guys are able to rekindle that relationship because you know, just by the way you express yourself. I feel like you would love for her to be a part of like not just your guys life but also your kids life. So especial, you know, que that whole relationship, you know, turns around, you know, quiero platicar un poquito de postpartum. We talk a lot about pregnancy, but I feel like we don't really talk much about postpartum and I feel like it's so real. Do you feel like it's something that you suffered with? If so, what did you feel during those moments that you were going through postpartum? And how do you feel like you got out of that like dark time in your life?
- [87:19]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Well, after we bought our house, we weren't talking to my dad, we weren't talking to his mom. And I felt like we felt let down because right before we bought our house we were having issues. I think like the interest rate went up. So they were telling us like, oh, it's going to be another $10,000 to put down or you don't get the house anymore. And it's like oh my gosh, like just things started coming up again. It's like, oh, you need a co signer. And so I remember telling him like, like I like I know my, my, my dad had like good credit, I know his mom had good credit. And we're like oh my gosh, like we should ask them like if they could do this one thing for us. And we like literally we'll put everything past us because it's like, like just be here for us now. Like we're asking you for help. Like we've done nothing to you guys. Like now we need our parents. Like we need you guys. So then we asked my dad and my dad was straight up like, no, I'm not doing it.
- [88:11]
Alanized
Your biological dad. Okay.
- [88:12]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Which I understand it's a big thing.
- [88:14]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [88:14]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
But like I'm like me as a mom, like nothing is big. Like, like that, like to me, like if my daughter asked me to coast, hun, it's like, oh, instantly like I'm gonna do whatever I can for her. And so like we didn't even get to ask his mom because I remember asking him like do you want to ask her? And he's like, no. Like she wanted the $25,000 back. Like you think that she's gonna care co. Sign for us.
- [88:34]
Alanized
Are you crazy? Yeah. Y. Come on.
- [88:36]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Like, look what she just did. And I was like, I know, I know. So then we were stressed, but honestly, like, I feel like God was there, cuz literally we worked so hard. But, like, it just, like, exactly $10,000 appeared. Like, literally 10, like, not appeared out of, like, really? I like, why did you do that? I try to do it again.
- [88:56]
Alanized
I'm like, what prayer did you say?
- [88:58]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Ah, me?
- [88:59]
Alanized
I'm like, damn, girl. But, like, you guys figured it out. Yeah.
- [89:02]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Like, it ended up, like, we ended up getting our $10,000. Like, we obviously busted our butts. Like, you know, just everything. Like, our. Fast. Fast. Yeah, like, everything. Like, it just, like, all. Like, I was like, oh, my God. Like, literally, we had the right amount of money, so at that point, it was like, a really, like, dark time, like, for us, because we're just like, okay. Like, we just went through all this, and then again with the house. So when we first. When we first got our keys to our house, I feel like we weren't, like, 100% excited excited. We were just kind of like, oh, yay, we got it. Now we're here. And then things just started happening to the house. So, like, our water heater went out, like, everything. Like, they had to move us out for a week because they had to fix baseboards. We had no WI fi. And it was just like, everything just, like, it was just. We weren't living in, like, a good, like, yeah. House, honestly, at all. And I remember during that time, like, my husband was working 12 hours, seven days a week, so we did it really, like, have him there. And so I remember one day I was, like, in the car with Addie. Addie was, like, three, maybe. No, two. She was two. Because this was, like, 20, 23, maybe three. But we were, like, in the car. And I remember just driving. Like, I would do that a lot. Like, he would leave, and I would just, like, grab Addie, and we would just go in the car. And so I remember buckling her up, and I would, like, listen to music, and I would just, like, drive for, like, an hour, two hours. And, like, our town is so small that, like, I wasn't driving nowhere. I was just driving up and down the freeway, and I'm just going and driving and driving. And then, like, I remember crying, and Addie's like, mommy, what's wrong? And I was like, oh, nothing. I'm just, like, happy. Like, I'm so happy. But I knew deep down I wasn't And I just couldn't figure out what was wrong. So I remember, like, when I was driving, like, I'm like, okay, I need help. Like, I need help. So I got home and I just remember like, deleting all the sad songs off my phone because I'm like, I can't feel like this anymore. So I started doing that and then I started realizing that my mom and everybody kind of like started picking up on it. Like, because they would get Addie. They would pick up Addie. He had a cousin who would just pick her up. So she would go to Chuck E. Cheese. They would take her to just like everywhere, like, anywhere that was fun. They always had her out and about. And I would just like be at home by myself and I wouldn't do anything. Like, anything, anything, anything. And at that point I'm like, okay, like, everybody wants Addie. Like, I think they were just like trying to get her out. They knew like, that you were struggling. So that's when I was like, okay, I have to make the change myself so that I start like uploading like little videos.
- [91:43]
So I start uploading little videos just like getting Addie ready and just like having fun with her. Cuz like, I genuinely just like felt happy during those times. And then I remember like, people saying like, oh my gosh, like you're so happy. But I knew deep down I wasn't. So I wanted to therapy. And that's when I was like, I have to figure out what's wrong when a therapy. I figured it all out. And then I remember coming back home and like after therapy I would feel like. Like finally. Like I could breathe.
- [92:12]
Yes. Like I felt like I was drowning. Like I was just drowning and like sadness. And I just didn't know what it was exactly. But the thing is, it wasn't just one thing. It was just like a thousand different things. So then finally I tell, like, my husband. I'm like, like, you know what? Like, I think that you need it too. You know? Like, I think we both need it. We need a fresh start. Like, we just need it. Like, clean the energy out in this house. Like, we need to just do this for Addie. So finally we both get the help we need. And I feel like that was like. Like when we did a full 180, like our lives just like flipped. I. We start talking to each other more, like about our feelings. We were just like venting about things. I'm like, hey, why do you think I. Your mom, like, is angry. And we would talk about it instead of me Getting angry about it and like getting sad. Like, we would have conversations about it and then we just, like, our relationship just got like 10 times, 20 times better. And like at night, like, we started working out. We had like, we even would send Addie to the little daycare. So like, my mom noticed, like, okay, like Verito's, like, just doing her own thing now. Like, I wouldn't call them anymore to be like, hey, like, what are you guys doing? Like, you know, like, she wouldn't have to. She didn't feel the need to pick up Addie. Like, oh my God, all they're doing is being at home. Like, why is Vettel always like laying down in bed? And so now she sees me out more. She sees me going to the gym, taking Addie to the gym daycare. We would come out, we would even go in the little pool and we would just like, have fun, like, do things. And we would do like family nights. And that's when like my tick tocks start doing a little bit better. Like, because I think they see me genuinely like, happy and doing things. So we would do like family Fridays and just like, I don't like, just finding our own groove into things again.
- [93:52]
Alanized
I love that. What piece of advice, you know, can you give anyone watching that, you know, maybe has gone through anything similar with you with postpartum, with, you know, maybe not having a great relationship with your swagger and just everything we've kind of talked about. What piece of advice can you give anyone watching that is going through anything similar?
- [94:11]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I would just say that there is definitely a light at the end of a dark tunnel, 100%. There's always going to be something beautiful at the end of it. Just like the rainbow after rain. And I genuinely feel, feel like that's been our life. Like it's just storm after storm. And I just feel like the rainbow did come. Like, it definitely did. Because I'd like, nobody can take that away from me. Like right now, Like, I want to high. I'm like, no. Like, I told Nathan, I was like, we're just doing everything. Like, anybody can look at us weird, look at us crazy. Like, judge us, be mad at us. But it's like we are living for our kids. We're living for ourselves now. And we're just like, happy times 10. Like, there's no, like, nobody can take that from us when you're genuinely happy. Like, nobody can take it.
- [94:52]
Alanized
I feel like especially with postpartum, I feel like it can be super scary. Especially, you know, being a first time mom. Or just being a mom in general. You know, you can get postpartum at any time. And I feel like it's great that you were like, you know what? If there. If I want to feel better, it has to start with me. I have to try to get myself out of this loop, out of this dark hole, whether that's keeping myself busy or going to therapy, whatever it is. Like, do sabies, and you did it.
- [95:19]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
You know, And I think that goes for everybody. Like, if you want something, do it. Just do it. Like, if you want to feel happy, like, do what you can to feel happy. Like, it's. Ask for help. Like, any. Anything. Like, any. I don't. I don't think it can go away on its own at all.
- [95:33]
Alanized
And it's like, if you're sad and you're, like, tired of feeling sad or tired of being depressed, but you're not changing your ways.
- [95:42]
Well, I'm depressed and, like, all I want to do is stay in bed, and I'll do. Because you know what's so funny? I've actually right now that I've been posting a lot more on TikTok, like, my little shopping videos, like, the Christmas stuff. I had been vocal before that. Like, I feel like this year was really. Has been really hard for me, like, emotionally and just, you know, mentally. But I feel like I was telling my boyfriend and my friend the other day, I was like, you know what? Like, I've been keeping myself so occupied, whether it's like, going shopping for, like, the house, like, getting the house ready for Christmas, like, doing TikToks, editing them, then doing my YouTube videos and working on my podcast. Like, keeping. Keeping yourself busy really does almost give you a purpose. Because I would, like, sit down on my couch and I would just be like, I'm sad, girl. Like, and it's like, yeah, you would. I would allow myself to stay in that state. And it's like the moment you start really changing up and really almost kind of like, fighting for yourself.
- [96:35]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yes.
- [96:36]
Alanized
That's when everything changes. You know that during that time you started social media.
- [96:43]
What made you be like, you know what?
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I want to do this. And what were the early days of content creating for you?
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I feel like I can really do this full time.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
When I first started, it was all just for fun. It was all just for fun. And when I finally started, like, picking up at it, like I said, it's always just been fun. And even to this day, it's super fun. Like you said, like, it honestly gets you excited. And I'M like, oh, my God, I.
- [97:13]
Alanized
Finally can't wait to do something today.
- [97:15]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, like, they're waiting. I need to show them, like, your tree. Like, everybody was waiting. Like, where is this tree at? So I just think that there's just so much, like, happiness in social media. I mean, obviously there's going to be so much, like, negativity, but once I felt like, the little bit, like, oh, people do like me on here. Like, oh, my gosh, like, I'm not that horrible.
- [97:32]
Alanized
You almost be like, wait, why am I.
- [97:34]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Why do you want to know about me? Yeah, like, things like that. I'm like, gave me, like, a little purpose again. Like, okay, like, I could do this, obviously. Like, my kids, my biggest purpose. Like, let's be honest. Like, yeah, with. Without my both. Both my girls. Like, it was just. Yeah, they're. They're my everything. So. But when you're. When I was posting on social media, it was just like, I was getting a lot of, like, positive energy. But also because I was putting a lot of positivity back out, I was just like, telling everybody, like, okay, guys, like, today we're gonna do this. And like, I've always just been super, like, happy and bubbly because that's how I genuinely feel. So when I would post my videos, everybody's like, oh, my gosh. Like, what's this girl on? Like, you're just so happy. Just kept doing it and doing it and doing it. And then I would upload my 5am videos because I would make him lunch at, like, 4am actually. And just like, my love for, like, my family, I think that's what people felt through the phone, through, like, my energy and stuff. And I just never stopped because I just love it. I literally love it. Like, it just. It's what keeps me going.
- [98:26]
Alanized
Do you remember your first viral moment where you're like, oh, shit. Like, after trying and doing this for fun, like, oh, shit, I'm getting numbers.
- [98:33]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, actually, it was so funny because I was packing him lunch, so. So, yeah, I was packing him lunch at, like, 4 in the morning. And it's so funny cause, like, my pants were inside out, but because, like, I sleep in my 20s. I'm like, what? I grabbed it like, 4am Like, I'm not gonna get all cute for the camera. Like, I've always been real. Like, that's like, I want to be asleep right now.
- [98:51]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [98:52]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So I prop up my little phone and I'm recording my 4am videos. And I had said something along the lines of, like, don't talk to no bitches. Like, you know, telling him, like, at work. And everyone was like, oh, my gosh. Like, ha, ha, ha. That's so me. And, like, just being real, like, that' relationship. We're just like that. Like a old lady had. Old lady. We don't know if she was old, okay? So I had packed him a lunch, right? And this guy's so picky with his lunches. With his lunches. And we grew up eating different, okay? Like, he could eat a Frito boat and be full. And I'm like, where the enchiladas at? Where's everything at? Like, yes. Like, I'm like, that, right? And so I had. I was asking, like, what do you want for, like, lunch? And he's like, oh, sandwich. Like, a sandwich? And he's like, yeah, sandwich. I was like, okay, whatever. I make him his little sandwich. Sent him off to work with a sandwich and his little bag of chips and a soda. And I guess some lady looked at him like he was working 12 hours, seven days a week with two sandwiches. And they're just. She felt bad for him, right? And so she's like, oh, mijo, do you want, like, a burrito? I packed an extra burrito. And this guy over here, he's like, oh, yeah, I'll take your burrito. So he takes the lady's burrito and he eats it. And so, like, after a few weeks, whatever, he comes, like, we're in the car, sitting down, and he's like, oh, yeah. Like, some lady gave me a burrito, blah, blah, and goes on talking. And I'm like, like, what? He's like, yeah, this lady, she had, like, a bomb little bean and cheese burrito. I'm like, a bean and cheese burrito, Nathaniel. Like, that's what was so special.
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Alanized
Yeah. Wow.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
But I've been over here cooking and slaving away for you, and he's like, oh, yeah? And I was like, you ate her burrito? And he's like, yeah.
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Alanized
I was like, it was good, actually.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah.
- [100:25]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [100:25]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
And so then after that, I was like, guys, we gotta get up, because this lady, like, on my video, I was like, we gotta get up because these ladies are making my man bean and cheese burritos. And so that I would go all out on my mistake.
- [100:37]
Yeah. So then that was, like, my first ever moment that I was like, okay. Like. Because that's me. That's, like, my personality. That's how we are. Like, he's, like, super kind, and I'm like, the one that's like, Always, like, dramatic and, like, just, you know, me messing around and I'm, like, weird. So then I would just, like, share, like, our life on there. And I just feel like people kind of really attached to, like.
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Alanized
Like, you guys. Yeah, as people. And I feel like that's the great thing. I feel like. I feel like as content creators, I feel like the goal should always be to have people that almost can relate, feel you and almost be there for you, because exactly how you said, you know, not that, like, the people online are motivation because obviously you have your kids that you love, you know, you have your family. You know, that mean. But I feel like, you know, you mentioned that whenever you would see the positive comments or like, the, oh, my God, people care about your life, it almost makes you feel like. Like, I don't know, for me, it makes me feel like, okay, I know people around me care.
- [101:27]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Right?
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Alanized
But then you're also like, I don't want to bug them with my shit. Like, bitch, like, whatever. But then when you see other people that you don't know that you don't, you've never seen your life care and be so involved with you as a person, you're like, oh, my God, like, I gotta keep it going. I love that.
- [101:48]
Because we really have talked about, like, a lot of your life growing up, up until now.
- [101:57]
Actually. You got a surgery, you got your boobs done.
- [102:02]
What was that process? Like, what in your head was like, you know, what?
- [102:07]
Was that something that you always wanted to do, or was it something that just kind of came within the years?
- [102:14]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So I always had, like, little itty bitties. And I've always been super insecure, like, always. My man knew. Everybody knew. Even my mom knew growing up, like. Like, I would just, like, not wear anything revealing. And shopping was the worst thing ever for me because I'd be like, okay, I need something that isn't low, isn't like a tank top, is like this. So school shopping. My mom hated it. She's like, oh, my gosh. Like, this girl's picky. And so when I had Addie, I felt like the insecurity was just, like, coming up again. Because, oh, my gosh, when you give birth, like, your chi chis are all out. And I was like, oh, yeah, but look at me, you know? And so this time around with Ayla, me and my husband had talked about it and was I. I was like, okay, I really want to get my boobs done, like, after, before. Okay. Like, I want another kid so I'll have my boobs done. After, because I don't want another kid for a couple years. And so we talked about it. He's like, dude, yeah. Like, whatever makes you feel good. Obviously, like, I love myself. Like, I'm not gonna be like, oh, I hated myself, so I changed it. No, but it's an insecurity, and if I could change it, I'm gonna change it. Like, I. Like, I hate my tits. So I'm like, I had to get new ones. And. And so when we. After I gave birth to Ayla, we talked about it, and he decided, okay, like, yeah, let's do it. Like, do what you need to do. So I found my doctor because a couple of girls went with him, the ones that I knew personally. So I was like, okay, they look good. You couldn't even tell. I'm like, okay, that's what I want. So then I scheduled a consultation with him, and right away, he's like, okay, we can get you in, like, in two months. And I thought it was gonna be a problem. Cause I'm postpartum, so I thought that it was like, oh, you can't come to, like, six months, eight months. But no, I was probably at that point, June, five, five months postpartum, four months postpartum. And they took me in. So, I mean, also, though, I did allow, like, my milk to fully dry up before I decided to do them.
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Alanized
What was surgery day like?
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But, you know, surgery, you know, you get the nerves. You're like, oh, my God.
- [104:05]
Like, what was all that like? And when you did wake up, what was, like, the first thing you said, said, or thought about?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So it all hit me the day of. I'm just. I'm weird like, that. Even, like, giving birth to Addie, I was like, I'm not gonna have a baby until I have the baby. So same thing with getting my boobs done. I'm like, okay, nothing's gonna happen. Nothing's gonna happen. Day of, I was so nervous. Like, I was even gagging. I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, just because of all the nerves. And I remember going into the room, and I'm like, oh, my God. I don't know the size. I don't know the size anymore. So right away, I go on my Instagram, I'm like, guys, which size should I get? Because the thing is, I didn't to want. Want it to look like, boom. You know, I've always been super, like, petite, like, in my boob area. So I didn't want to, like, have a huge transformation. So I remember I was like, oh, my gosh. I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know what I'm gonna do. But he had a really good team. Like, the ladies came in, like, do you want to look at the size? These are mine. They're like, these are mine. And this is like, a 460 or something like that. And I was like, okay, I think I should be fine. So I ended up getting a 425cc. And when I went into the surgery, it's quick. They're like, okay, like, let me check this. Let me check that. Okay, let's come over here. Lay down. And I'm like, literally within, like, 15 minutes. And they're like, lay down. And I remember laying down, and they're just like, okay, we're gonna put this. We're gonna do that. And. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You're just, like, following them, and you're laying there, and it's like, you're asleep. Yeah, I. I didn't even. I'm like, well, no, one tooth.
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Alanized
You didn't panic before.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
It was just so quick. And I think because I was more nervous about the size. That's all I was thinking about. Like, oh, my gosh. I hope I don't look, like, botched. And I hope they don't look too.
- [105:30]
Alanized
High, because I wanted big for my body type.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. I wanted something supernatural, like, very natural. And so I did do, I think, 425cc. And we went through the armpit, and we did saline, not gummy bear. And I did medium. Not medium.
- [105:47]
Alanized
High profile.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
No, I didn't do medium profile. Yeah. So that's what I got. And then as soon as I woke up, I'm not. I never, like, take Tylenol. I never take any of that. I'm like, typical Mexican. Don't believe it works. I'm weird like that. I don't know why I need to grow up, but.
- [106:00]
Alanized
Yeah, I like that, though, too.
- [106:01]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, I'm like a headache.
- [106:03]
Alanized
Yeah.
- [106:03]
Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Just some water. I'll be fine. And so I woke up, and because, like, it's heavy drugs you're on, I couldn't wake up. Like, I was like. And they're like, wake up. Wake up. And I'm like, I'm up. Like, I hear you, but I'm just so, like, tired. So I was just like, going like this and like this. And then they're like, okay, it was time for Nathaniel to come get me. And so then I just don't. I literally just remember him, like, standing at the Door be like, oh, okay. Cuz they're telling him the instructions and I just fell asleep. He takes me upstairs and he has it like all like our YouTube, our YouTube channel. And I'm like walking up there and I'm just like, like, what the happened? Literally, I'm telling you, like, the drugs just like I was asleep probably to like another three, four hours. I was like loopy all day.
- [106:43]
Alanized
Did you throw up a lot after?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
No, I didn't. I didn't at all. It was like weird. Weirdly. A really easy surgery. A really, A really easy procedure.
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Alanized
I think for me, you know, there's one thing I can relate with you. When I got my weight loss surgery, I remember I was very nonchalant about it. Like, oh my God, like, let me go in. Like, I already want to get it. Yo. Leading up to it, I really wasn't thinking too much about the surgery. I was like, oh my God, I just want to be skinny. I was too busy that I wasn't really thinking much about it. But my boyfriend, the day of surgery, he was like, babe, you're not scared? Like, what if this happens like that? To the point that I even got so many. I was like, like, shut up. Like, I'm not really thinking about it, but now you're making me nervous. But like you said, it does happen. Once they start putting the IV and all this, it happens so quick. I panicked. Like, literally when they put you. You know how like, literally, like they have that light, like, literally in your like, face.
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Like, like this. I started panicking because I was like, oh, God, my, my God. Like I'm about to be put down. Like, oh my God.
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You know, and then when you wake up, it's like, that was quick as. But you didn't realize you were like down for like an hour or whatever, you know, what was it like, healing from it? What was recovery like? You mentioned that, you know, you got it a little bit different than your typical boob job. You got it through the armpit. What was that recovery? Like, what are things that no one told you were going to happen that the la. Later on you're like, oh, this is crazy. Tell us a lot, a little more about that.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
So since I've never really. I never looked into it either. I'm really like, I. I was just like, I want to get it done. This person got it done. I was more like face to face talking with somebody and she's like, hey, this is what I did. This is what I did. I didn't really look at videos and things like that right beforehand. Like, okay, how is it through the armpit? Nothing. So I was, like, in complete shock when it happened to me. So right off, as soon as I had it done, you get, like, little stitches. They're like tiny little ones. But the thing is, like, you. You ha. You're so scared to move your arms. Your arms are like that. This, like T rexes. And so when finally I felt, like, a little bit more comfortable to, like, move my arms, my armpits were sticky. So it ended up pulling the stitch out on this one? Yeah, this one. So the stitch came out on this one. And I remember going like this because I felt it come off. And like, oh, my gosh. Like, it still cringes me out because it was just, like, open. I could see a little bit open. And the one on this one, like, it was just like the little pad they had on top. Top was just, like, pulling it every time I would go like that. So. Oh, so disgusting. And I remember calling right away, like, hey, what's wrong? What's wrong with this? And whatever. They said it's fine. Like, it'll heal on its own, whatever. Just leave it alone. So I'm like, this. And then a couple days later, because you can't wear deodorant, you can't shave your armpit.
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Alanized
Shower too much.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Shower like, that area. Oh, my God, I stinked. I stink so bad. Like, this isn't even sexy anymore. Like, it was nasty. Like, I told man. I was like, I'm so sorry. Like, I was not trying to be cute.
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Alanized
Cute.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
I'm like, oo. Like.
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Alanized
Get away, girl.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah, it stinked. And I was like, dude, this is so bad. I remember even calling them. Can I please put something on my armpits? And they're like, no, girl like it. Like, if it stinks, get a little bit of to that. And, like, just tap it.
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Alanized
And I was like, this is not girl. I feel like those are, like, things that people don't warn you about. Like, aftercare, you think you're gonna wait, wake up, but it's like, you know, what's your healing process like right now? Like, are you. How long out?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
100. Oh, this is now five months, six months.
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Alanized
Oh, okay. So, like, the healing process was really quick.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. My husband actually had to go on a work trip the week after I got my boobs done. So I. And I took care of the girls. Like, I. My mom did come help me, and she did, like, you know, a little bit, but not like that. Like, I literally was 100, like, on my own, doing it with the girls. And. And honestly, thank God that my daughter is not, like, super heavy because I was carrying her. So at that time, she was probably, like, £15.
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Alanized
They tell you you're not supposed to, huh?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
But I had to. And that's my fault, because I was being stubborn, you know, like, ah, it's okay. I got it, I got it, I got it. But, yeah, I did do really good in the healing process. I'm proud of myself. Except that stitch, like, because it came out, you could see, like, a little bit. Like, this one looks like an armpit fold. Literally, it just looks like a little crease. And this one, you could see, like, a little bit, like, more detail to the stitch.
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Alanized
Like, do you, like, feel like you had those moments almost even, like, body dysmorphia at one point before you got to, like, okay. Damn, they look good. Before they dropped, maybe.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
You know what? Yes. Because I. They do. They drop differently. So he did tell me, like, one of my boobs were, like, a little bit because I had kids, so it was a little bit saggier than the other. So he's like, do you want to lift it? And I was like, no. Like, I want it to look natural. Like, I don't want it to be like, okay. Like. And I didn't want all the extra scars that I didn't need, you know? So I was like, it's fine. Whatever. He even agreed. Like, it's literally. Literally just, like, tiny, tiny bit. But you're gonna notice it, because if you're staring at yourself like this, you're gonna see a little bit. And I was like, no, it's fine. And the thing, like, I even told myself I don't want to get carried away. Like, I literally just want my chichis done. Like, because I just. I just didn't want to, like, do too much, you know? So as soon as I did that, he was like. Like, kind of like, okay, like, if you don't want that, that's fine. But, I mean, they're not gonna look perfect. And in my head, I already knew. Like, okay, I expected it to not look perfect, but I'm standing in the mirror, like, day, probably four or five. Oh, my God. I was so terrified because, like, one of them was already, like, high, and the other one was, like, dropped low because it was already ready.
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Alanized
So, like, I'm botched.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. I'm, like, standing there, and I'm like, maybe if I, like, like this babe.
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Alanized
See me the ladle.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Like, Give me a second. Yeah. No, it was like, yeah, I was a little bit sad, but I'm like, you know what? It's whatever. After, like, I think a month and a half, they finally, like, both, like, like, dropped perfectly together. And I'm so happy. Like, so happy. I'm finally wearing the shirts I've wanted to wear. And, like, you boosted your confidence. Yeah. 100. And I don't think that it's like, I'm relying on it, but I think that it just, like, makes me feel, like, happier. Like, when I'm doing things, it's like, I'm not like, oh, my gosh. Like, when I'm working out, I'm no longer looking at myself like, oh, my God. Like, I hate this. I can't wear this. I can't do that. Like, I'm just like, oh, yay. Cute.
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Alanized
I have heard, heard that, like, breast surgeries are, like, the easier recovery from all the surgeries, but you just feel, like, super numb. No. Like, do you ever feel that?
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
Yeah. And then, like, your arms, too. Like, I thought, like, something was happening because I couldn't feel my arms, but that's because it's, like, the circulation, just everything. And then you don't. You're not picking up your arms. You're literally like this. Like a stick.
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Alanized
Whether that's career wise, family wise, and they'll let them meet us through in the next five, 10 years.
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Veronica Lily (Lily Fresa)
In five to 10 years. I think right now I really want to focus on YouTube. I love the feeling of it on there. So I'm hoping 5 to 10 years, we at least get 100k subs. These next 5 to 10 years. I really just want to invest into myself because I have my girls, and I just want to be, like, the ultimate inspiration for them. And I just want me and my husband to do what we've always dreamt of.
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Alanized
So I love it.
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And that you're gonna keep having throughout the years complete, and I'm so excited. And thank you so much for taking your time. I know the drive was crazy out here. I hope it's all been worth it. You know, I've had such a great time.
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If you guys have yet to follow her, make sure you guys do. I will leave her links down below as well as on the screen right here.
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Make sure you guys do so you guys won't miss any future episodes. And with that being said, thank you so much. And thank you. Thank you guys so much for watching. And we'll see you guys in the next one. Bye, guys. Yay. You did so cute.
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