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We've been telling employees for the last couple of decades, well, first it's like digital transformations coming for you. Then it's the robots are coming for you. Now it's like AI is coming for you. So if you tell an employee today, hey, you know, don't worry about your job, we're not gonna let you go. They're like, yeah, you can't promise that. I've been listening to you for the last few decades. What you can do is you can promise something bigger, which is offer career security. I'm gonna make you better for an uncertain future. And I don't know if a big customer is going to cancel an order or whether we're going to have a competitor really take away some of our business. I can't promise you job security. I can promise you something bigger, career security. And so that means I want to invest. The good news is you want to do that as an organization because you want your people to continue to grow.
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This is Dr. Rob Harder with the nonprofit Leadership podcast, Making your world better. What does it take to be an effective nonprofit leader today? What are the biggest challenges? What are the biggest obstacles? How should nonprofits fundraise in an economy that is constantly changing? All of these reasons combined led me to start this show. And it's my hope that through this series, people can learn not only what it takes to be an effective nonprofit organization, but to hear from effective leaders who are successfully making a positive impact in their communities. We hope you enjoy the show as together we hear how they are making their world better.
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Welcome to the nonprofit leadership Podcast with Rob Harder. I'm Lena Larew, based currently in Mexico, and I'm a listener just like you who cares about the nonprofit world and the people leading it. If you're looking to learn and grow as a nonprofit leader, you're in the right place. Thanks for listening. Now here's Rob.
B (1:39)
Welcome back, everybody, to the show. I'm Rob Harder, your host. So I want to first give a shout out to all my listeners in Ireland. Different times. I'll get these different reports about where people are listening to this podcast. And I saw that there's a lot of listeners in Ireland, so I just want to say thank you for all those Shout out to those in Ireland. It's ironic. I do have some Irish roots. Well, that's where I can trace. Part of my family from is from Ireland. So again, shout out to all of you who are listening in Ireland. If you've got leaders that you would like to get on the show that are Prominent leaders, perhaps in Ireland. Please send me an email, give me a shout out and let me know, hey, you should interview this person because they're really making a difference in, in our country when it comes to various aspects of the nonprofit or social impact sphere. Would love to receive that email and find out who those leaders are. Okay, so today, this is a really important topic today because this I think may change how you lead your organization when it comes to the issue of both recruitment and retention. Now let me start by giving you this phrase or this term. I should say that if you haven't heard of this term, you need to acquaint yourself with this term. It's called the workquake. This refers to our current seismic shift in the employer employee relationship, really driven by the rapid technology change that we're seeing in our culture today. Now, this is primarily in the American context, but this actually is happening all around the world. I'm sure it's happening in Ireland. It's due to again, technology. The change in technology AI, frequent career changes, the ever changing worker expectations when it comes to loyalty, meaning and flexibility with one's job. Now this really became a trend after Covid, but it really continues to this day. So you, as a leader, you need to be aware of how you can respond to this trend. Because, for example, you're here with my guest today, that in the business world, the average tenure for a new staff person, this is for businesses, is 2.5 years, I believe. Now, I don't have any current stats on this, but I believe in the nonprofit world it's even less. So you're talking a very short time when it comes to like how long are people going to stay on average with your company or organization. So the idea would be, among other things, is to really redesign your organization and redesign your whole onboarding and recruiting process with a short cycle talent relationship model is what how it's being described? I'll say that again, it's a short cycle talent relationship model rather than counting on long term stability for those you're hiring for your company or your organization. Because the fact is people are just not sticking around. Now, there's certain things you can do to help extend retention. In fact, my guest is going to talk about that. But there is a lot around this issue of the workquake that we're living through. And again, this primarily really began to come to an inflection point after Covid. So who's my guest today? My guest is Steve Cadigan and he's known, among other things, for being the chief human resource officer at LinkedIn, the very first one. And he was at LinkedIn when it grew from 400 staff to 4,000 staff in less than four years. So he's had a lot of experience with explosive growth. He was in this culture of Silicon Valley, where it's one of the most competitive environments to hire people. Right. Think about all the companies that are around him that are vying for that same talent, whether it be Facebook or Google, YouTube, you name it. He was in the midst of that, able to hire a bunch of people and really scale LinkedIn during that time. So he has now moved on to be a coach and a consultant, and he's author of the book Workquake. And we're going to talk all about what does this really mean for you and I as leaders of organizations when it comes to whether it be hiring, recruiting, and certainly when it comes to retention. It really is an interesting conversation. You're going to learn a lot of things. So, as always, love having you tuning in. And once again, thank you to all my listeners in Ireland. So glad you're tuning in today. All right, on to my interview with Steve. This podcast is sponsored by Donorbox, helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business. Well, welcome back to the show. I've got Steve Cadigan here in the studio. Steve, thanks so much for taking time to be on the show today.
