A (1:57)

Like such a. The people who wrote that, we already talked about it, you know, but like, like I said, like, I just feel like the people who wrote that really wrote it for You.

B (2:03)

Yeah.

A (2:04)

And like, fans love that feeling, that authentic. Like, my queen is doing this and it's so authentic to her. Like, oh, I'm so proud of you.

B (2:11)

Yeah. Actually, Gary did an article. They did a write up and like the advertising agency, the people who kind of like in between me and Arby's, stuff like that, they're an LGBTQ+ owned agency. Yeah, it was cool. They, like, I didn't know that they. I guess they knew Gady, shout out Gary. And they were like. And that makes sense. Makes total sense. Like, we were talking about that last time because my writer was queer for the thing because I got to meet him after and he was like, it's really cool. And like, I say I owe everything to the queer community, the gays, like, I look because they get it.

A (2:33)

So true.

B (2:34)

Yeah, we said it last time, but I'll say it again.

A (2:35)

No, but the gays always get it. Like, a straight man could not have executed. I'm just imagining even how different your Arby's ad would have been if, like straights made it. You know what I mean?

B (2:46)

It would have been like. Yeah, I don't. I like to think of it, but yeah, washing a car or something, eating a burger, you know, that would give straight. Which is fine. It appeals to a certain demographic. But Arby's is looking to appeal because we said it last. Or maybe I said on Hot Topics. The other Arby's spokesperson I looked at on their thing was Rebecca Black. And I was like, queen, I love it so much. She was doing a Friday thing for them. That's everything. Yeah. I was like, they get it. They really do. Arby's knows who's a cater to and.

A (3:13)

And just like, yes, like, it's crazy. Just like how well it works for them too. Like, how much engagement that's going to bring them.

B (3:20)

Yeah.

A (3:21)

Versus, like, you know what I mean? Matt Rife for Elf Cosmetics. Let me stop crazy.

B (3:26)

I know we talked about rage baiting. I think I was. I literally do like four pocket. Was it Okay. I did like not Loveline Tuesday, Thursday. Did gestures Monday, Wednesday. So I'm like, where did I talk about where? What Justin Bieber texting yesterday during gestures. I'm like, did you date the Justin Bieber look? Like on my head. I'm like, about so many things. I'm like, I just saw her yesterday but she didn't bring this up. So I don't know.

A (3:44)

I forgot to. I honestly forgot because it just like slipped my mind. I make everything about myself, but like.

B (3:49)

No you don't Justin Bieber look alike.

A (3:52)

Performing at the win? I'm like, it feels a little.

B (3:57)

You tweeted. Is it still out there? Because Oscar saw your tweet and that's where it got brought up. Because I was like, wait, what did she tweet? And she's like, I have lore. And I was like, what's the lore? So that's when I texted you.

A (4:04)

I was like, oh, yeah. No, no, no. Just like, I have a lot of lore. Like, the fact that I can somehow tie myself to this is more what.

B (4:09)

I was saying that you, like, knew this Justin Bieber impersonation.

A (4:12)

I don't know this guy. No, no, no, no. I just. I had a whole relationship with someone because they look like Justin Bieber, which is so funny to me now.

B (4:20)

I have so, so many questions. I guess I can ask it here because we had so many questions. I didn't know about this era at all. We're looking at the date. I'm like, what year is this? I'm like, okay, 2018. That makes sense. I'm trying to figure out how I miss this era. And then Oscar's like, yeah. Like, he was eating a burrito and it went viral. I was like, wait, what? So we did, like, a deep dive yesterday on Death Stress. Did you date him? This was my question. Did you seek him out looking for a Justin Bieber lookalike? Or he just happened to look like Justin Bieber and he's like, in your circle?

A (4:44)

That's a really good question that I'm not even sure I know the answer to. Like, but it more. So I saw the sideways burrito thing, right?

B (4:51)

Oh, you weren't with him at the time?

A (4:52)

No, I was not with him when he did that.

B (4:53)

It sounded like a tana thing, like you did with Elf cosmetics. Makoa. It sounded like something like, go do this. Like, go see real. So I was like, that's everything.

A (5:01)

No, I saw that. And then I'm a Belieber to the core, obviously. Justin Bieber I think, is one of the or I did at the time. Justin Bieber's fine. Okay. That's okay for me to say. And so I slid in. Brad is the guy's name. I found his Instagram, I slid in his DMs, and we started DMing. And then he lived in Canada, so I was like, we're going to Toronto, baby. Packed up the gays.

B (5:29)

Stop it.

A (5:29)

And then I got there and we were dating ever since. Like, it was one of those, like.

B (5:34)

Whirlwind like, you, like, kind of sought him out.

A (5:36)

Yes. Out of the middle of nowhere in.

B (5:38)

Canada because Ron was gonna pop in.

A (5:42)

No, we. We met in Toronto, but he was from. I don't want to, like, air him out. But he was from, like.

B (5:46)

But malls. Yes.

A (5:47)

And, yeah, like, dead. Saskatoon.

B (5:52)

I follow one YouTuber in Saskatoon.

A (5:55)

Of course I love her.

B (5:56)

I still follow her. She's engaged. Shout out. I've, like, loved her forever.

A (5:59)

God, she was everything I forgot about.

B (6:01)

I love that, you know, the two eyes. But she's in Saskatoon. She talks about it. I'm not doxing her. She's like, I love Saskatoon. I was like, all right, I want to go there.

A (6:07)

And I. I don't know. I always thought, like, I dated a few Canadians, and I was like, oh, they're gonna be nicer. Like, you know what I mean? In. Was it.

B (6:14)

Because they do say they're nicer over there.

A (6:16)

They're not. I. Canadians are very nice. But the Canadian men that I went for were. Well, no, I actually dated a really nice Canadian guy, too, but, I mean, he ended up cheating on me. Brad. Crazy.

B (6:27)

I wanted to know the fallout too.

A (6:28)

Yeah.

B (6:29)

What happened?

A (6:29)

So I threw him a. An Amari was dating someone who was from Texas at the time who also cheated on Amari. We really. We go through things together, but we decided parallel lines. We decided to throw them a birthday party in LA that was Canada and Texas theme themed because they missed home. Like, they were in LA for us.

B (6:47)

Yeah.

A (6:47)

So I. We, like, made it snow in the house. We had, like, a mechanical bull, like, all these things. And then, like, a couple. He was just being weird that night, and a couple weeks later, we go to Coachella, and I want to break up with him anyways. It's a really long story. It's like a long story.

B (7:04)

We have an hour.

A (7:06)

I want to break up with him anyway. And he's like. He just, like, won't let me break up with him. It's like one of those, you know, where he's just like, no, no, no. And then he ends up trying to, like, tr. Warning, like, fake some, like. I don't know. Some. How do you. How do you say this? Like. Like faking it. But I 5150 him because I'm like, still. This is like, he. He took it too far. You know what I mean? And I didn't know if, like, I didn't know the vibes. And while he was in his 51 50, I had his phone, and he just started getting all these Snapchat notifications. And I opened up his phone, and he was trying to cheat on me with everyone, like, my fans. Like, he's Snapchatting all these, and I'm like, oh, my God. And he was cheating on me at the birthday party that I threw him. Like, sexting some.

B (7:52)

No.

A (7:52)

And he got out of the 5150, and I was like, get out before Coachella Sunday starts, because I'm about to have the Coachella Sunday of my life. Like, Uber away from Palm Springs. And he was so crazy, too. He, like, was airing me out on his way out, like, to all my friends and, like, everything.

B (8:07)

Oh, your friends. How would that work out, though?

A (8:09)

Like, I remember at the time, Natalie was my assistant, and he was like, tana's always talking about how you're drunk on the job or something, and it's like, no, come on. Like, we love Natalie.

B (8:19)

And he was crazy, but it's stuff that, like, right? You probably, like, talk to him about. And you know when you vent, and then it's like you told him, like, something just in the heat of a moment, and then he's like, by the way, yes, exactly. And you're like, damn, yes.

A (8:31)

And then he was just trying to convince everyone he didn't cheat on me. I remember, like, convincing Jordan he wasn't cheating on me, and I was like, no, he did. And then I immediately texted Jake Paul, and that was the start of my villain origin story that day. I was like, I'm single. What's up? Which so die for dating.

B (8:48)

That's actually so impressive. That's what I would love to do in my head.

A (8:51)

Villain origin story. I was like. I was on a sick one.

B (8:54)

But the fact that you got it like that, that you're just going from, like, Justin Bieber look, like, to Jake Paul, which is kind of amazing. I mean, I guess I got no one. I was trying, and I couldn't find anyone.

A (9:04)

Now I think Brad's a dad, and, like, you know what I mean? Like, he is.

B (9:06)

We did get that update yesterday, and.

A (9:09)

I wish him the best. I think he was young. I'm like, it's hard to navigate what to do with, like, such sudden fame. And, like, you know what I mean? I don't know.

B (9:16)

It's crazy. I wonder how far after the Justin Bieber burrito photo did you DM him? Was it, like, in the weed of this?

A (9:22)

Yeah.

B (9:22)

Okay.

A (9:22)

So it's like, oh, yeah.

B (9:23)

He's like, I'm so famous.

A (9:25)

Yes. Yes. I don't know.

B (9:26)

It's kind of everything I saw that. I was like, let's get him everything.

A (9:29)

I was obsessed for the time period that I was. I was like, I'm dating Justin Bieber, let's go.

B (9:33)

How many months or years? What is it?

A (9:35)

It was like, how long was it, Amari?

B (9:39)

Like, three months, A year?

A (9:40)

Probably closer to a year. Maybe not like a full year, but like, we dated for like a long time. Like, not a long time, but like eight months, nine months. Wow. Yeah. And like, he really was like a part of my LA villain origin story. Because I think had he never cheated on me, we probably would have stayed together for like a much longer eventually. Still broken up, but like, you know what I mean?

B (10:00)

Because you wanted to break up with him. You were saying.

A (10:02)

Yeah, but I still just think that, like, I don't know, I like who I was at that time was bad at letting people go. So I almost needed him to like, cheat on me. To like, how interesting. You know what I mean? Cut it clean.

B (10:12)

The world does that sometimes. It like, forces you out of a situation where you like, maybe when I have. On your own. I'm so fast. I was so gagged when we were talking about this. Actually on today's episode, I was just like, what? Like, how did I miss this lore? And I love it so much. I love you for the look alike. It was so good. Have you ever met Justin Bieber?

A (10:28)

Yes, at Coachella and. But only like, it was so brief and it was like he came up to Bella Thorne and was like, they were friends, they knew each other. And then I took a photo of them and like, he said, hi.

B (10:38)

And I was like, you didn't get a photo?

A (10:40)

I didn't get a photo with them. I took a photo of them and I was like, I'm a photographer. This is my calling.

B (10:44)

Yeah, it reminds me of Clueless when, like, Elton puts the photo up and she go, you have a photo, Ty? It's the photo you took of Ty. And he like, share took the photo. And I was like, oh, that's kind of everything.

A (10:52)

That's exactly how I felt.

B (10:54)

You're like, I took that photo though. But did you ever do that, like, photo by me, like, post on your Instagram?

A (10:58)

Yes, I had a whole Instagram. Tana took these for a while where I was like, I. I'm a photographer. No, you're not.

B (11:04)

Was it the. The disposal?

A (11:07)

Yes. Me drunk as the Fujifilm camera. I was like, this is my calling, I think.

B (11:11)

What year is that? Like 2019, 2018. Yeah, I did that too. I had one too. Actually my account now was Trisha Paytas Backup. But before that it was like. I think I copied probably David, because I was friends with them, like Trisha's disposables or something. Because if you go back to the original of my current Instagram, it's all.

A (11:24)

Disposable, which was fun. Honestly, such a fun time.

B (11:28)

It was a cute thing. Yeah.

A (11:29)

Like how cute now if you did that, like went and took photos of like Aquaman and Malibu and El.

B (11:34)

I see on TikTok they advertise like on TikTok shop. Like camcorders. Yeah, like vintage camcorders. I'm like, that looks cool. So it just looks. Yeah, like, okay, maybe I will. But now it's one of the digital cameras everyone likes. Now everyone does the digital. They did look good. They had like the built in filters and everything. It was such cuteness.

A (11:47)

I love a Canon G7X that is like my favorite camera. It's like smoothing, which I love. Yeah, I remember those.

B (11:54)

You have one still?

A (11:54)

Yes. I use it like so often.

B (11:56)

You do? For pictures?

A (11:57)

Yeah, because way less facetune. It's like I should bring it one of these days when we take photos too because they're so much higher quality than. Than an iPhone. Yes.

B (12:05)

Okay. I wanna, I'm gonna mark it down because I really do want one and.

A (12:07)

It'S so like user friendly. Like I'm not camera smart. Like it has to be like for a dumb.

B (12:12)

Yeah.

A (12:12)

For me to understand how to.

B (12:13)

Does it go straight to your phone though? Do you have like the Bluetooth where you can like do it to your app on a phone?

A (12:17)

No, I think there's a setting but I don't know how to use it.

B (12:19)

So how do you get the photo?

A (12:19)

I take the SD card out and put it in a little reader. But then I pull up the reader in my phone.

B (12:23)

Yay.

A (12:23)

And it's easy.

B (12:24)

Oh, I don't know if I have that technology.

A (12:26)

No, no, I got you. I'll teach you, I swear. It's like, it's so easy.

B (12:30)

Can we. I don't know if we can talk about. You know, we can't when we. Because when you first, when you come in, I never know if there's like a topic or be like, no, don't talk about it.

A (12:36)

Okay, tell me.

B (12:37)

Okay. Was too hot. Can we talk about. We don't have to say his name but like, like we can if you don't care. Okay. Like influencers. Like if you've like talked bad about an influencer and then you See them, like, at a party or an event or you're. You're scheduled to do something together. Oh, yeah, yeah. Is it like, oh, we can talk about this. Can we?

A (12:52)

Yes. I went on Harry Josie's podcast yesterday.

B (12:54)

Harry doesn't give a.

A (12:56)

And he's like, trisha hates me. And I'm sitting there and I'm like.

B (12:58)

I don't know what to do, Harry. Which is so wild. Okay, let me just clarify this, okay? Yes, we've had him as an enemy on our show. We're always like, harry Jazzy enemy number one. I literally don't know him. And he also seems like someone who, like, is not on social media to me. He's like, in Britain or something, just not on social media, you know? So I was like, he's just like, Love Island. Is that what he's from?

A (13:18)

Too hot to handle.

B (13:20)

So like a reality show person who, like, doesn't care about social media. That's how I feel in my mind. Because he kind of just seems to, like, not be involved in social media.

A (13:27)

Just so funny because he's posting like 19 TikToks a day.

B (13:30)

I never. Okay, I don't know. So to me, I'm like, you know, he'll never see this, doesn't care.

A (13:36)

No, he sees that. He's one of those. He, like, sees everything.

B (13:39)

So funny. So I don't know him, but I like.

A (13:42)

And I was trying to explain this to him yesterday. You know what I mean? Like, I can see how someone can see his dating history and, like, things that have happened and, like, take away opinions from that. You know what I mean? Like, I. I can separate the two, I guess, because, like, I just have always seen Harry as, like, my friend. And I do. I. I told him yesterday. I was like, I don't know how some of the girls you date have done it. You know what I mean? Like, I don't, you know? But I do have faith in him to grow because I think he's very smart and he is very loving. Like, even like him in Georgia, who, like, she did the whole breakup series on him. And, like, they had a nasty breakup. Like, it ended up coming out that they're good now and there was more to it and, like, it just. To me, it seems like very much like regular LA toxic. And I'm like, I believe in you to grow from this. Like, I don't think you're a horrible person. I just think that you are maybe have not been the best part.

B (14:32)

Boy.

A (14:32)

Yeah. And, like, I've also been a girl So I have, like, empathy that people can grow. And, like.

B (14:36)

And he's 25, you said, I don't.

A (14:39)

Know how old Harry is. Like, probably the same age as me.

B (14:43)

I thought he was like, 20.

A (14:44)

28. Oh, 28.

B (14:45)

Oh, so he's. That's older than you. That's a lot, like, to me, I still. Not a lot older in that sense, But I think 28, even, like, 26 is like, those years, those last 20s, like, 29 will be so different, you know, Like. Like, those are all such. I agree with different years. So it's a lot older than I thought because I thought because I only knew of him from Dancing with the Stars and the whole Riley Arnold thing. So that's when I was like, oh, that was crazy.

A (15:05)

You know what?

B (15:06)

But again, I love you, Harry.

A (15:07)

But.

B (15:08)

But then this is where I was going. It's like, then I know I get asked you on was like, yes, Alex Cooper. Yes. And then, yes. Seeing him on the flyers, like, oh. And usually, like, if I. If I. Before I agree to something, I always, like, see if I've ever talked bad about someone. I'm like, okay, let me see if.

A (15:22)

That's so funny. Me. That's so me. Yeah.

B (15:24)

I was like, let me not agree to something. If I. And if I do, specifically, I remember Alex Cooper when I want to call her Daddy. Like, I remember. I think it was on a while ago, like, years before. I was just like, oh, she's like, annoying or something. And so I told her on the thing. I was like, I decided because I was so jealous. She was on impulsive with Sophia, and the boys were like, you girls are so funny. Best podcast in the world. I remember being like, I could host that podcast. Like, I'm just. Yeah. So I was like, so, like, bitter. So I told her that, too. I was just like, well, just girl, you know, I probably called you annoying at some point.

A (15:47)

But honestly, like, but I love her.

B (15:49)

And it truly was out of jealousy. Like, I still, to this day, I wish I was Alex Cooper. Like, I wish I could be at the Olympics. I wish I could be.

A (15:55)

You know what I mean?

B (15:55)

Like, I wish I was doing her job.

A (15:57)

The Olympics?

B (15:57)

Yeah, she was, like, hosting the Olympics in Paris.

A (16:00)

No.

B (16:01)

ESPN or NBC. Was it Peacock? Yeah. Yeah. She's like, that's like, everywhere. $160 million. Her company just sold again.

A (16:08)

No.

B (16:08)

Yes. It was 60 million to Spotify. Then it's 160 million to whoever just bought it.

A (16:14)

And it's like, that's crazy.

B (16:15)

Like, insane.

A (16:16)

Honestly, even being There yesterday at the Unwell offices, I was like, they got money. They got like. I was like, I shouldn't be here. I felt. I genuinely. I was like, I really shouldn't be here. Yeah. Like, I was, like, scared.

B (16:25)

Yeah. They're like, got it like that. She's like, But I love her.

A (16:28)

And, like, she's, I mean, just an icon. She, like, has carved her name in the space. You know what I mean?

B (16:34)

I love her. Female. A young female. She's younger than me. A young female. I, I, I totally respect her. And then when I met her, she was, like, so nice, and I felt even more awful. And I wasn't anything bad. I, like, that's what I'm saying. I looked up what I said, and I was like, okay. I just called it, like, annoying, like, daddy gang and stuff, but meanwhile, just, like, so gel. So anyway, she was super cool, and she's like, who hasn't done that? She was, like, super sweet and super real about it, but. But I always do that. So then when I saw Harry, Chelsea, I was like, like, there's no way we can edit anything out. It's been every single episode. Just we. Harry Jowsey. And I was like. And then it's, like, hard to tell people. Like, I didn't think you would see it. I don't know you. You know what I mean? Because I don't know him. I'm, like, literally judging based on, like, what is out there.

A (17:10)

No, Sometimes I'll see people out at a party. And I know I've said, this happened to me with Nick Vile, where, like, I met him and I knew I had said something bad, but for. And I was sober, too. Like, I could not for the life of me remember what I said. And he comes. His girl comes up to me. I'm talking to her. I realize he's with her. And I'm standing there looking at Nick Vile, being like, hi.

B (17:30)

Oh.

A (17:31)

Like, I'm, like, standing on business that I have no idea what I'm standing on. Like, I just know I said something negative and that I was really mad. So I'm like, I'm still mad. No idea what I said.

B (17:40)

Oh, you said it. You said, I'm so mad.

A (17:41)

No, I just, like, was giving that. I was like, me and Mary Jow.

B (17:45)

I'm gonna be that, too.

A (17:46)

You have to, like, decide in that moment, like, if you.

B (17:48)

I can never.

A (17:49)

Yeah, like, if I can. You know what I mean? If you stand on it or if you don't or, like, whatever.

B (17:54)

I'm like, a Coward. Even. Even people I truly despise. Like a David Dobrik. I. David's not just run away. Yeah.

A (18:00)

Like, it's.

B (18:00)

I'm not gonna fight him.

A (18:01)

Yeah.

B (18:02)

You know what I mean? But it's like, I would.

A (18:03)

Sounds awesome.

B (18:04)

But also knowing we just start fighting. Knowing me too. I feel like I probably would be just like, I did see. Yeah. We can like bleep the name, but I did see. Do you remember he was at the. We were just at Four Seasons and he was just there with his girlfriend and same sort of situation. We saw each other and I just. I just started. I didn't run, but I like grabbed Malibu's hand. I'm like, okay, let's go potty.

A (18:24)

Like, you know what I mean?

B (18:24)

Like, I just. I am somewhat. I don't know if it's cowardly or just not one confrontation. I'm very non confrontational in person.

A (18:29)

Yeah. Which I understand. And it's like also doing these podcasts, you. It's my word of the month. I have to stop. But you flippantly talk about so many people and you forget. And then this one sentence that you said maybe meant nothing to you in that moment. It was just like a stream of consciousness opinion on what was kind of being given to you or what was feels current in the moment. And then this person seeing you and they're like, her for saying that.

B (18:51)

And you're like, God, did I even say. Yeah, that's another thing. I get nervous. So that's why I was glad you told me that. That he was like. Didn't know what to say. I was like, perfect. So, yeah, I thought he might be someone. Like I said, either he doesn't know or if he does know, he like wants to fight. You know what I mean?

A (19:03)

So, no, I think that, well, he wouldn't stand a chance. I would just be stupid, you know?

B (19:07)

But like, I think honestly, I'm not a fighter. I think anyone could get me.

A (19:10)

I run.

B (19:12)

I'm not gonna fight anyone.

A (19:13)

Protect you.

B (19:13)

Wait, are you a fighter? Did we talk about this?

A (19:15)

No, we've never talked about this.

B (19:17)

I asked people. I'm like, can. Like, that's what I want to know.

A (19:20)

No, I'm not a fighter. Especially now. Like, fake nose, fake teeth, fake hair, fake lips come out. Like, would just start falling off. Like, I can't. My soul is a fighter. Like, sometimes there, right there is a part of me where I'm like, there is no other solution than this person just getting smacked upside the head. But I'm not gonna be the one, you know?

B (19:37)

Okay, so you never. You've never been in a physical?

A (19:39)

No, no, no. I mean, well, like, there's some, like, high school, like, lore, but, like, no, even in high school, I wasn't like, a fighter. And I like, yeah, it's just like.

B (19:48)

I don't respect fight. Like, I always think I need a fighter in my friend group. I have, like, one fighter in my friend group. And I'm like, like, on tour, I'm like, there's one person who can fight if we need to. If we need to. Like, if someone comes fighting swinging, I'm like, it's not gonna be me. So I was just like, I need someone that can fight back. So I have, like, one friend, and she's a girl, and she's like, she's. She's like a fighter. You know, if.

A (20:05)

If they provoke 100, it's like, I think for me, I've always been like, it's not all jokes aside. Like, it's not that deep. If it is that deep. You know what I mean? Like, if I caught some mako with some and she was my friend, I'd probably swing on her, like, you know what I mean? Like, it's situational, I guess. Right? And he would never do that.

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B (21:29)

Thank you so much to DraftKings Casino for sponsoring today's episode. Thank you. Yeah. Is that crazy? When you're, like, a billionaire, Kardashian, you're gonna start swinging.

A (21:36)

Yeah. Well, you know, she's like, I'm safe.

B (21:38)

Right.

A (21:39)

Right.

B (21:39)

I guess. Yeah. You get the money, but it's also like. But then getting sued, I guess if you have the money, you're like, I don't care. Sue me. You know what I mean?

A (21:44)

Yeah. And just like. Like, toxic love will do it to you.

B (21:47)

Yeah. That is crazy.

A (21:49)

Yeah, that's. I guess I've come close to. In relationships where I was, like, chucking guys and, you know.

B (21:54)

Yeah. Yeah, I've done that, too. I mean. Yeah, that's a little different.

A (21:58)

Yeah.

B (21:58)

As opposed to someone coming up to try to fight me. It's like, I don't know.

A (22:00)

Yeah. And like, I don't know. I think that all the podcasting stuff is just, like, Harry Jowsey also plays the game. You know what I mean? That's the thing. He plays the game. You play the game. Like, we play the game by talking about things in pop culture and whatever. And I think that. I like to think that, like, game can respect game. You know what I mean? Like, I did this crazy thing, and you commented on it. Right. Like, yes, that's what I like. Okay.

B (22:22)

So he's like, gets it.

A (22:24)

That's what I would think.

B (22:25)

That's what I would hope I saw.

A (22:27)

But I'm just like you. I see, like, an event list, and I'm like, oh, seven people are my ops. And then I'm going, and I'm like, I love ops.

B (22:32)

That's my favorite word. I've been saying ops for everything. I'm like, is he my op? Like, I love. I'm like, where's our op? Like, where's the op? I like, love. I don't really fully get it, but I love saying up. Maybe hair. Jazzy is my opinion.

A (22:43)

Harry, Josie could be your op.

B (22:44)

Nick Vile's an op for sure. I know I dislike him.

A (22:47)

I don't remember why. I do, though.

B (22:51)

But that's the best part. There is sometimes, too, when there's, like, a beef happening. I'm like, I don't know where this beef started. Like, I'm not sure who said what. But my biggest thing is we'll bleep the name Jimmy bleep the same. But, like, I saw and bleep my mouth everything. But you're sorry. Yeah. I've seen so many podcasts.

A (23:09)

That person. It's bleeps, but just.

B (23:11)

I've Seen podcasts where like mute the name and it'll be like just their lips still. And then you can read the lips and everyone's like, we know what you said. Yeah, but anyways, I'm the same way.

A (23:19)

I don't play. I'm like, cover my mouth.

B (23:21)

Yeah, yeah, Jimmy does that. He like pixelate. It's so funny. But this person was upset that people had an opinion on them.

A (23:27)

Oh, period. You did that, you did that. Try to guess who.

B (23:31)

You can't. And like, and again, that it wasn't even like, like a slight to this person. Like, I've seen other influencers like get mad when people like, why are you commenting, like, separate from this influencer? Like, people will be like, even anonymous people on TikTok, they'll be like the one we talked about last episode with the, the wife saying the husband said someone else's name at the wedding. And then being upset would be like, why are you guys attacking my husband? It's like, well, what do you mean? You put this out for everyone.

A (23:54)

100. You know, I think with influencers it's so interesting too because opinions are your currency. Right? Like, and you love the opinions when they're good and when they pay your bills. That's why you continue to do the things that you do and post the things that you do. So you can't. It's a double edged sword and that's what it is. You can't just love the opinions when they're in your favor. Like you, I don't know, it's harder to deal with. But to be like, people can't have an opinion on me when it's bad is just so hypocritical. And this person that you're specifically talking about, it's like if you go out and say disagreeable.

B (24:28)

Yeah, yeah.

A (24:29)

Like, I've always like not understood that, like, lack of self awareness. Like whenever I say something that's like, like, I don't know, I can like look at it and leave my own body and be like, oh, I could see how people could be upset by my opinion on this. You know, it's like. And having opinions is very hard in today's culture. I agree with that. Unless you're saying the common opinion, people are mad.

B (24:48)

Right, right.

A (24:49)

But if you're gonna have a non common opinion, you're probably gonna get that response. And yeah, it's just interesting to me. I know people like stand in the kitchen but they can't take the heat, you know?

B (24:59)

Did you come up with that? I like that one?

A (25:01)

No, not at all.

B (25:02)

Oh, I love that saying. That's so good. No, I think that too. Especially when people, like, you know, like, you get podcasts, you talk about it because it's like, that's why it's like, I love, obviously, when Moses on the podcast, but it is so funny to hear people's opinions because, like, when he wasn't on my social media, it was like, you know, whatever. Now that we, like, he's out there more in the podcast, people are like, trisha hates Moses. It's just so funny because it's like. And I'm not mad because, like, you said, you put it out there. Like, if you put a relationship out there, you can't be like, don't comment on a relationship. Yeah, but it's just, like, such a funny thing to, like, start hearing people's opinions on it because it's like, oh, my God.

A (25:27)

I know.

B (25:28)

Wild.

A (25:28)

And it is like, every once in a while you see one that's just so wildly untrue. So it, like, I think that's. It'll cut a little deeper when you're like, that's just not true. But I don't know, do you think.

B (25:39)

It cuts deeper when it's not true or when it's true?

A (25:41)

For me, I don't. That's. That's a tough question. I think a hate comment about something that is maybe, like, your insecurity. That's true. Cuts the deepest. But I think that it also, like, can be so frustrating when people believe isn't true. You know what I mean?

B (25:57)

Yeah, I guess, like, both. Yeah. For me, it's like, when people like, she hates Moses. It doesn't bother me because I'm like.

A (26:02)

Well, the love of my life.

B (26:04)

Yeah. So it's funny. And I'm like, oh, my God. Then you start thinking how you proceed on camera or whatever. But.

A (26:08)

And then that's the whole, like, the rat race of. I hate being in those modes. And it happens, you know, Like, I'll just have weeks where I'm like, oh, my God, I'm being perceived. And then I act all weird.

B (26:18)

Yeah.

A (26:19)

And it's like, I just try not to.

B (26:20)

Opinions on nothing. You're like, cut everything and everything. Yeah.

A (26:24)

I don't be so scared of, like, nothing that, like, normal me wouldn't be afraid of, like, saying. You know what I mean?

B (26:28)

Yeah. It is a. It is.

A (26:30)

Reading Reddit really did that to me, though. That's why I don't read Reddit.

B (26:32)

No, Never that. Yeah. I haven't done that in, like, years even, like, I, I, I want to get on Reddit because of, like, Desperate Housewives. I love, like, the theories that people come up with.

A (26:41)

I enjoy that, like, I'll be on, like, Dexter, the show Reddit.

B (26:44)

I love that. I can't do that because I feel like if I click on the website, it's gonna just, like, curse me or something. So I'm like, let me not even go on there.

A (26:49)

You know, it is just like, it's.

B (26:52)

I think it's fine. Like, Moses goes on Reddit. You know what I mean? So some people can handle it. I think it's like, yeah, some people can't handle it.

A (26:57)

That's true. I was not one. I was like, changing every week. I was like, this is dark.

B (27:02)

That's hard, too. Yeah. I don't like to know good or bad, for instance, because he'll just go on the good ones. Like, I think we have like, a just Trish one or something. He'll go on there and they're like, really nice.

A (27:08)

Yeah.

B (27:09)

Like, let me know when I need to know something. He'll be like, oh, people said this. I was like, okay. You know what I mean?

A (27:12)

But that's nice, too. Like, just like, kind of. If someone tells me something, sometimes I enjoy it. But, like, consuming it all scary, too, because even if it is all good, like, we'd have that on cancel. It'd be like a week of all great Reddit posts about, like, great things. But then you're like, oh, my God, I want to keep these people happier. I'm basing my worth in this. And then the next week, it's like, tana should die for this.

B (27:31)

And I'm like, you're right, I should. They flip that easily.

A (27:34)

Like, yes. That was just like, what was so crazy? It was like every little thing was, like a huge thing, and it just didn't matter at all. Like, once I closed it for good, I was like, oh, the world kept spinning.

B (27:45)

Yeah, yeah. It's better to, like, not feed into it. I'm all for it, though. Like, I like people discussing things and whatever. I just, like, again, I can't. I can.

A (27:51)

Yeah, I love, like, weird Reddit for, like, shows and movies and different things. I'm gonna figure out to how to get comfortable.

B (27:57)

That looks comfy, though. Don't they have, like, the. Some people do podcasts where it's just them reading. Like, am I the. Have you seen that one?

A (28:03)

Oh, yes.

B (28:04)

I love those stories. I didn't know it was from Reddit. I was like, where are they getting the stories? Or even if girls getting ready of their makeup on Tick tock. It'll be like them saying a story but then in the captions like from Reddit. And I was like, oh, it's not even your story.

A (28:13)

It'll be like, I always get fooled by those. I'm like, what a crazy side hustle though. Like just getting ready, reading Reddit stories and they're cashing out.

B (28:20)

Love that so much.

A (28:22)

So. That is so funny. Like, oh, so much of that.

B (28:24)

So smart. Like discussing other people, like anonymous people's drama. So that way you don't get in trouble with anybody. Not yourself.

A (28:29)

Yes.

B (28:30)

Influencer.

A (28:30)

You did what happened at your kids school? They don't have any kids.

B (28:33)

Right?

A (28:33)

They're like literally at all.

B (28:34)

Make up the story.

A (28:35)

Yeah. Like so wild.

B (28:37)

That is so true, actually.

A (28:38)

Oh, my God. I have a gift for you. But it's over there.

B (28:40)

You look so good. You look like a showgirl. Wait, really? Oh, did you go to Kitson?

A (28:43)

I went to Kitson. Wait, this is for Aquaman. I can't stop.

B (28:46)

Is this on? First of all, thank you. My guy's on Robertson's now.

A (28:49)

Yes, yes.

B (28:50)

That used to be like the bougie kits and that everyone would shop and.

A (28:52)

Now everything is like. Like they're closing. It's so funny. Like, everything was on sale, but they're always closing.

B (28:57)

Kids. Wait, kids in school? What do you mean?

A (28:59)

I don't know.

B (29:00)

Everything was.

A (29:01)

Books were 70 off. I bought like 50, 000 books. Like I was having the time closing. I don't. But they're like one of those where it's like, everything must go. You know what I think might be closing, though? Is Claire's.

B (29:11)

Did you guess that one is? We love Claire's.

A (29:14)

We should go to Claire's.

B (29:15)

It's so fun. There's one literally. Get this, mom. By the way, you need to. That'd be so fun. We should go. Our mall is like, no one's there. It's so eerie, but it is cool, but a little scary. I'm like, where's everyone? But we have like. Yeah, there's like a Claire's, a Hot Topic, a box lunch store. There's like Mrs. Field. It's like a. It's like a blast and pass. Hot dog on a stick. Wetzels.

A (29:31)

Oh, my God. I want a hot dog on a stick. I can't bubble today though.

B (29:35)

But that doesn't make you bubble, does it?

A (29:36)

I think that I have to like. Yeah.

B (29:40)

What is there? I don't even know, like, you eat kale. I love it for you.

A (29:44)

I don't want to. I just that I ate McDonald's here the other day and who I became after that McDonald's. Like, my stomach's just sometimes sensitive. I don't know.

B (29:51)

Yeah, I get that way, too. I love fast food, but, yeah, if you eat it, like, which I hate.

A (29:55)

Like, I. I feel like it's like McDonald's is one of those ones where it's like, the batches. Like, sometimes, like, you get a good batch of McDonald's and you feel fine after eating it. You feel better. And then, like, that batch and me would just. We did not. Yeah, we did not click.

B (30:08)

I felt so bad.

A (30:08)

I was at trivia Night, like, rocking back and forth.

B (30:11)

Oh, that's right. You went after. Did you win?

A (30:13)

No, we placed ninth.

B (30:15)

Out of how many?

A (30:16)

I don't know, like, third? 30. But we placed 12 last week, and we're just trying to get better.

B (30:21)

That's amazing. How many people on your team?

A (30:22)

And there was a question about Bob Dylan after we talked all about Bob Dylan.

B (30:25)

Yeah, you did. And I was like, so weird. What was the question?

A (30:28)

It was about who Timothee Chalamet played in his most recent movie.

B (30:31)

So did you get it right away or did someone else?

A (30:32)

And then I'm screaming it, too, giving other people the answers.

B (30:35)

So that's why I don't understand. You're at a bar and there's, like, people playing with you, and you have to, like, raise your hand, buzz. How does work?

A (30:40)

So you're. Everyone's in groups, and then each group has a phone. So, like, we all play with one phone. And then there's like, an MC guy, and he's, like, super quirky, and he reads the question out loud. And then we all have to submit on our one phone. And, like, we're a team. You know what I mean?

B (30:54)

Why are you shouting the answer then?

A (30:56)

Because I have Screw loose.

B (31:01)

Probably would win if you just do.

A (31:02)

It on the phone. It's like, shut up. Amari was pretty good at it. You got one. You got. It was like asking these random cast members, and they were on Below Deck, and you got it below Jack.

B (31:12)

What is that? That's like a.

A (31:13)

It's like they're. It's a boating reality show.

B (31:16)

There's so many reality shows.

A (31:18)

So many.

B (31:18)

Just reality about everything. Just a bowling alley. I'm sure there's a reality show.

A (31:22)

100. Oh, my God. So many.

B (31:25)

Nightmare. Well, I did listen to Bob Dylan because you said you were Listening. Did you listen to mcr? You said on the way.

A (31:30)

Yes, I listen on the way here, too. I'm honestly living. Really?

B (31:33)

Yes.

A (31:34)

I was listening to. Is it teenager?

B (31:37)

Teenager. Teenage. Yeah.

A (31:38)

Today. I was listening to that on repeat on the way here, and I love it.

B (31:40)

They're performing that right now on tour. I like, love it so much. That one's good.

A (31:44)

I love an alternative moment, like, a punky moment. And, like. Because even just like, all the new age, like, punk, like, I love Machine Gun Kelly albums. Like, I love that.

B (31:53)

Is he punk? I didn't. I thought he's a rapper.

A (31:55)

He was, and then he switched to punk. But I love, like, so weird all that type of. But, like, the old stuff is obviously so much better, like, ever. I just feel like.

B (32:03)

Like. Like rappers.

A (32:04)

No, no, no, no.

B (32:05)

The original punk.

A (32:05)

Yes. Original punk, yeah.

B (32:07)

Like, before MCR, I feel like there was, like, the 80s punk scene, like, Sex Pistols that were, like, so cool and stuff. I used to love that, too. I was like, in an era of punk. I don't know.

A (32:16)

I love Jack's Mannequin. Who else?

B (32:18)

Oh, I don't. You're like, you know, like, deep cuts. I just know, like, the big ones.

A (32:21)

Yeah. You know American Rejects. Does that count as, like, oh, my alternative.

B (32:24)

What do you think about them?

A (32:25)

I don't know anything about them. I love that song. Gives you hell. That got me through, like, yeah, when you see my face I hope it gives you hell.

B (32:32)

That got me through that one for sure. I. I was in one of their music videos. What? It was a flop song. It was called Beekeeper's Daughter. No one knows it. It's like, I love it.

A (32:42)

Flop song.

B (32:43)

Like, I'm always in the flop. I always say this. If I'm in your music video, it's going to be a flop. Like, Eminem's we made you is probably his least popular song.

A (32:51)

Everyone hates it.

B (32:52)

Katy Perry's Women's World, like, really got a lot of hate.

A (32:55)

That is so funny.

B (32:57)

All American Rejects. I remember people being like, what is this Beekeeper's Daughter song? I'm in that video, so don't cast me in a video. I think I might.

A (33:05)

I think we could switch. Like, I need you in my next music video. And then it's gonna be the biggest one of it.

B (33:10)

Flops. It's. It's like, everyone's like, what? Because your career is so iconic? And then I just, like, tank it by being in your video.

A (33:15)

There's no such thing as you tanking anything.

B (33:16)

I do care. Even they meanwhile, I was one. Two Tears are on their own. That one did not. Was not Robocy at the beginning.

A (33:22)

Amy Winehouse.

B (33:23)

Yeah. And it was Dave LaChapelle that directed it, and people did not like it originally because she was with that guy and she had him, and she was. Yeah, she was with that boyfriend.

A (33:31)

What year Was she there?

B (33:33)

2000. Yeah, it was 2007. It was. And I lived right across the street from Hollywood Boulevard. I was a hooker on Hollywood Bolton in the video. And in real life, actually, you see me twice in the video. At the beginning, she's walking down, like, La Cienega. There's, like, a green motel, and I'm standing there, like, being a hooker. And then again, on the street of Hollywood Boulevard, she sings. And I'm, like, walking past her in, like, pink lingerie and just, you know, just. There I am right there. Look at that little skinny waist right there. Yeah, I'm in it twice, but, yeah, people like it now.

A (34:05)

Did you guys say anything to each other?

B (34:08)

No. You were not allowed to talk to her, and she did not want to talk to anyone. She was like. But she was, like, making out with her husband the whole time and, like, sitting on his lap. And, I mean, it was kind of cute, but they're like, don't talk to her. Don't go up to her. And I was like, okay.

A (34:15)

No, but how cool that you got to be in the same room as Amy Winehouse.

B (34:19)

That was cool.

A (34:20)

It is, like, always sad when people don't want to talk to people. But also, that was Amy, you know, I love Amy Winehouse.

B (34:27)

I love her now. I didn't appreciate it, but I didn't really know her back then, so. But, yeah, now she's so talented.

A (34:33)

I just. Oh, my God, I love her so much. You should watch the biopic.

B (34:38)

Oh, is there one where someone plays her?

A (34:40)

Yeah, people didn't love it, but I just thought it was cool, like, to get into her lore and, like, I don't know.

B (34:45)

I would love to know more about her, because I do think she's extremely talented. And it's sad. I don't know her story. I don't know, like, what happened, but, I mean, it just sounds.

A (34:52)

It is such a sad story.

B (34:53)

Is it okay.

A (34:54)

Yeah. The dad and the alcohol and just, like.

B (34:56)

Yeah. When you have, like, issues, I always feel sad that because you have, like, fame, you have money of everything.

A (35:00)

Yeah.

B (35:01)

And you're still, like, struggling with, like, addiction or whatever. She. I don't know.

A (35:04)

She also loved, like, men, you know, and I think that was, like, a big part of it, too, you know?

B (35:09)

Yeah, I. I would love to know.

A (35:10)

More, but made the best music of all.

B (35:14)

So talented. I really, like, again, not knowing who she was in 2007. Also. I didn't really know music back then, but I remember even seeing her hair and being like, oh, she's such an icon. Like, yeah, this person with, like, hair like this.

A (35:22)

Believe you saw Amy Winehouse, like, in person. That is, like, one just. I would do anything.

B (35:27)

Yeah, that was, like, cool. I think, like, leaning back. That, like, is one of my cool moments.

A (35:30)

Like, you saw the Beehive in person. Like, that's so cool to me.

B (35:34)

So tiny. I just remember being like, oh, I'm just like, I don't know, just her with her boyfriend. I never had a boyfriend at the time, so I was just, like, so jealous. I was just like, oh, my God, look at her with his boyfriend, just, like, making out, being so tiny and cute and just. I was like, yeah, sure. She was very short, very petite, very tiny. The big hair. She had her dress from the music video. And I just remember being like, oh, I want to be her, too. Because, like, she was living this life of music video and directors and Dave LaChapelle's directing it, and. And it's just, like, so iconic, and. And there was paparazzi, like, in the boulevard, and it was really cool.

A (36:01)

I need to watch the whole music video at some point. Like, that's just so cool.

B (36:04)

What's on video?

A (36:05)

Tears dry on their own.

B (36:06)

Yeah. Wow. It was. I think it's like, people like it now, but at the time, I remember it was, like, not getting. And I kept feeling bad. Like, Like I said every music video did. I was like, why can't I be in, like, what's like a big. Like, blinding lights by the weekend or something? Like, something big. Like. Like, my fear is, like, the weekends. Like, you want to come a music video? But, yes, I get my moment. And then, like, it flops. You know, everyone's like, this is the one song of the weekend.

A (36:25)

Like, you know, people would be so gagged about that that there's no world.

B (36:29)

But I just wanted to flop for him. Speaking of, do you watch America's Got Talent? Probably not.

A (36:33)

I watch it.

B (36:34)

You know what I'm talking about?

A (36:35)

I watch a lot of clips of it, and I used to watch it a lot growing up. I love singers. I love seeing people sing.

B (36:41)

I love singers, and I love, like, talent. Like, I like anybody with talent. Like, dancers and.

A (36:45)

Yes. And it's Good.

B (36:46)

It's kid friendly, so we watch it too. I love it. They just celebrate their 20 years. So they're like having all the acts. But you know who's on this season is Tom Sandoval. Do you know who he is?

A (36:53)

Of course I do.

B (36:55)

Okay. Do you want.

A (36:55)

He has a band, right?

B (36:56)

He's a band and he's on with the band and it's kind of went viral this week. So that's why I thought maybe. Is that the one you thought of? Yeah. So he does blinding lights by the weekend and it is.

A (37:07)

It quite literally blinding. It's bad.

B (37:09)

Can I tell you, like, my favorite, everyone's favorite song? It's like the number one on Spotify, like, ever. And I actually, I don't know. Tom Sandoval is like Scandal, so don't cancel me for this. But I liked him on Traders, so I was like, I like Tom Sandoval.

A (37:20)

Traders was the start of his, like, rebrand. Like, he's like, yeah, because I. I didn't finish Traders, but I watched most of it and he was good on Traders.

B (37:28)

He was so good and like, funny.

A (37:29)

And yeah, he like, in the joke. And now he's on this next upcoming season of Special Forces, right?

B (37:36)

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

A (37:37)

With Brianna, Chicken Fry and whoever else I.

B (37:40)

Right. Jojo did this as well.

A (37:42)

I think at one point I loved Jojo on Special Forces.

B (37:45)

You watch it? I've never seen the show. It's like, what are they doing?

A (37:47)

Is like, it's one of the coolest shows I've ever seen. And honestly, like, regardless of if you like the people, it is so commendable. Like, going on that show, it's like, definitely the hardest reality television show to, like, ever exist. Like, it's like military training. Like, genuinely, like, Dr. Drew told me.

B (38:04)

When he was on my podcast because he was on season one and he said him and Kate plus eight were the. They went to like, the icu. They were like, sent to a hospital. Like, he couldn't even like, complete it. He's like, it was the most. Granted they're like, older, but it's like, what are they doing? He said there was one that you gotta, like, drive a car off a cliff into like an ocean. And I was like, what do you mean?

A (38:20)

Yeah, like, what?

B (38:21)

Why? Why would they have, like, reality stars doing this?

A (38:23)

Like, no, it's because Jojo would, like, tell me, like, her. She would, like, wake up in night sweats and like, her trauma from it. Like, her, like, it is like, it's some real. So black China on that season was so traumatized. She was like, give me the out of here. Like, that would be me. I would last one hour.

B (38:37)

Would you do it?

A (38:38)

No, I actually, like, that is one thing where, like, even if I got the offer, unless my career was in such a up place that I needed the redemption arc, really, then I would be special, forcing my way down.

B (38:50)

You know, I would love to see you on there with these boots. You would actually be. Everything would never know. There's certain shows I would say absolutely not to. And that is one for sure. I mean, again, I never, like, seen it. It looks awful. It's like Fear Factor. Any of those shows.

A (39:01)

It's freezing. It's like, yeah. Jojo in her season when Tom Sandal. Oh, it's funny. They were doing something and his body legitimately gave out, like, wherever they were. And Jojo Siwa carries Tom Sandoval on her back. And what an in 500 pound military gear. Imagine being Tom Sandoval too. Like, how humbling is that? Like, holy.

B (39:21)

No, Jojo is. I think she's like this biggest superstar in the world. And I think she also, she's just very strong. Literally, obviously physically. Yeah, she's. That's. Did she do good? Is there a winner? Do they win on that show? All right, thank you so much to Ro for sponsoring today's episode of not that Loveline. You guys, look, taking care of your health isn't about physical health or physical appearance. It's about how you feel, how you show up for work, for your friends and family. Maybe you're thinking about GLP1s, but you're like, hey, is this expensive? Does my insurance cover. I can't talk to insurance. It's so complicated. Well, let Ro take the guesswork and the cost out of it with their free insurance checker.

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A (41:45)

I think there is a winner. And JoJo, she was in like the top two or three or something. I think even making it further than one episode is like give someone an Emmy. Like, it's truly. It's crazy. It's a. I can't wait to watch the season. I like, really love where is it?

B (41:58)

Where does it air?

A (41:59)

Like, no clue.

B (42:01)

I haven't watched it. Have you guys seen who is gonna be on this next season?

A (42:04)

Yes.

B (42:05)

You just said a couple. Brianna and then Teresa Giudice.

A (42:08)

Yeah, you love Teresa Giudice so much.

B (42:12)

Jesse Smollett, he's that guy. He faked his. Faked a homophobic like fake to hate crime. That was wild.

A (42:21)

See, like if I faked a hate crime, I'd go on Special Forces. Like that makes perfect sense.

B (42:25)

They were redemption.

A (42:26)

No, it is like people genuinely Go on to, like, be like, light. Look at. Yeah. And look at me in this. This new light. I'm new. Like, I'm.

B (42:34)

It's kind of like when you, like, get into hot oil. Like, let me just lose some weight. And then people are like, wow, we like you again. You know, I'm saving it. If I ever need it. Be like, okay, time to get on that Ozempic. If I need a rebrand scandal, they get back, I'm skinny and I'm like.

A (42:46)

Yeah, it's so funny. Like, even, like, hair changing. Like the Kardashians. Like, you always see that, like, when something crazy is happening in their family, one of them will change their hair so that everyone talks about it and smart.

B (42:58)

Okay. That's smart. I love it. I love the. The switch around the switch up. I guess it works.

A (43:03)

You know, so many, like, PR tactics that seem so stupid, but they work. It's so funny.

B (43:07)

Yeah. I so much teach a class on it because I don't know any of those tricks, but that makes sense.

A (43:11)

I know. It'd be so interesting.

B (43:12)

Here we come, right?

A (43:14)

No, no.

B (43:15)

I have a family. I need to live. I would not live.

A (43:17)

I would not live either.

B (43:18)

Like, I would hurt myself so dearly. Yeah.

A (43:21)

100%. Like, even flying out there, like, just getting to the location. Where is it at? I don't know, but it's like, in a different country. Yes. And like.

B (43:28)

Oh, like Croatia.

A (43:30)

Yeah. You're like, in the middle of nowhere.

B (43:32)

Like.

A (43:32)

Yeah.

B (43:32)

There was a one when I was a kid called I'm was. I'm a celebrity. Get me out of here. Yeah. I think Heidi and Spencer were, like, in the jungle.

A (43:39)

Oh, my God, stop.

B (43:40)

I love them. Never. Yeah, I love them too. They're doing a podcast now, which is like, everything out.

A (43:45)

It had a great name, right?

B (43:47)

Yeah, it's called.

A (43:47)

Called.

B (43:48)

Is it called Spidey Wood or. I'm just making that up. I think it's called Spidey Wood. And they're doing it out of their lot where their house burned down because they're still paying mortgage on it. So they're like. So they built like a podcast. Not built. They're like, on two folding chairs in their lot and then they, like, spray painted the back to say Spidey Wood and they're doing their podcast.

A (44:02)

That is so iconic.

B (44:03)

So iconic.

A (44:04)

What do you mean? They're still paying mortgage on it? That's so dope.

B (44:07)

His situation's so crazy because his dad's house also burned down and he's like, my dad was a dentist. He wasn't just, like, wealthy. He, like, spent 40 years paying off this house. And now, like, the insurance was canceled before, so now they have nothing to show for it. Like, it is so. I don't. Those are. I don't know. I can't even imagine. It's very, very crazy.

A (44:21)

It's so interesting that, like, society tells you that you need to buy a house and then there's just so. I don't know, like, I find out things every day that, like, make me be like, did I make the right decision?

B (44:30)

Yeah. It's scary because you could just put so much money into the house because they're like, oh, renting. You just throw away money. But I mean, it happens. If you buy a house, stuff happens too. You have to fix things all the time and there's always falling and, like, things you have to fix. It's.

A (44:41)

Yeah. Which is so crazy.

B (44:42)

Yeah.

A (44:42)

So crazy.

B (44:43)

Waters. If someone just comes, sits in your house, they can, like, live there forever. It's like such a weird thing. I. Okay, go to Special Forces. Cut to Kitson. I'm so excited. I love Kitson. Oh, my God.

A (44:53)

This is just something silly for Aquaman. Oh, my God.

B (44:55)

But you give us so much.

A (44:57)

It's just so fun.

B (44:58)

Not even their birthdays. Okay. I'm so excited.

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A (46:29)

It's so fun. It's, like, really interesting stuff.

B (46:31)

Oh, my God. They used to have all those. I can't even think what they're called. Lots of trinkets. Yes, but, like, bougie.

A (46:38)

Yeah, Bougie trick.

B (46:38)

Twerking for a Birkin shirt. That was, like, 98 was sold there. Like, they had twerking. Do you remember those shirts?

A (46:45)

No, There was, but I was definitely trying to be twerking for a Birkin and maybe. Maybe got a coach bag at most. For sure. Shaking the bones.

B (46:53)

Oh, the Birkin is wild. Oh, my gosh. We have to put them in it. Put him in this instantly. This is so cute.

A (47:00)

And it's so little.

B (47:02)

It's like, the littlest one probably would still be very tiny in it. What size is it? Yes. Oh, my God. We'll put him in instantly. So cute. I have to send this to Moses. This is so cute.

A (47:12)

So cute. And I just, like, so cute. I haven't gotten any of them onesies, I think.

B (47:16)

Oh, my God.

A (47:17)

And I was like, that's so. I want to buy a onesie. You're. I'm having.

B (47:19)

Thank you.

A (47:20)

I'm having baby fever. Like, through you, I swear. I, like, shop in the children's section. I'm like, what can I get the kids?

B (47:26)

Can I tell you? That's the problem with social media? Because, like, that's why I literally had to get my tubes out, because everyone keeps getting pregnant, and I'm just, like. It just is so. It's, like, addicting. It's like. Like, I don't know. It's influencing, like, people. Influencers are influencing me to have a baby. I need to have you.

A (47:40)

It's specifically you. I don't give a who what. Too hot to handle. Star is pregnant now. Like, it's not that. It's like, is there one? I have no idea. But, like, it's. No, it's coming here. Even the other day I left, and I was like, I miss Malibu. Like, I wish I got to spend more time with her.

B (47:54)

Like, I just loves coming down. That's, like, her thing. Moses, he told me after you left last time, she, like, will come down, and she's like, you know, you're in the bathroom, so she. For a few minutes, she just comes down and she, like, fixes her. Fixes her hair, and she's just like, preparing to see you. Like, she gets so she, like, love. Love loves you. Like, I'm going to stop. She's like, fixing your hands.

A (48:13)

I'm going to stop that. So cute.

B (48:16)

And now Elvis, too. She came down the other day, and now they just are all.

A (48:19)

They're just the sweetest babies and they're so smart and, like, adorable. Malibu and I were having so much fun because there's these mini rainbow birkins over there and they're earrings, but they're huge for. As an earring wearing. And we were, like, carrying them, and I was just like, wait. I literally.

B (48:34)

I wanted I should have a picture of that. I know you guys are, like, spinning around and stuff. And I was like, it's hard. Like, when you're a parent, it's so hard to capture, like, the moments because you, like, are enjoying the moment. Like, oh, I did. Can you do it again? And then, like, usually she doesn't, but then, like, she was like, okay. She want to be picked up again. So I was like, okay.

A (48:47)

It was so sweet. And I just love her. And she's getting so big. It's like, oh, my goodness.

B (48:52)

We took her to dance class today, this morning, for the first time by herself because it was always mommy and me. So I would, like, go in and dance with her or just, like, be with. With her. And today was the first time that she went in by herself with all the little kids.

A (49:02)

Did you sob?

B (49:03)

I sobbed. It was so cute. She did so good. She was so patient. She was. There's, like, a line to do the little obstacle course, and she was at the end of the line, and I was like, oh, she's not gonna be. But she sat the whole time, clapped. She was very patient. The other little kids, they were getting impatient because when it was not their turn, they were running around. Yeah, she was, like, sitting. But then by the time Malibu had to go because she was the last, nobody was sitting. Everyone else was just running around. I was like, can we all sing? Clap for her too. But yes, it's fine, I guess.

A (49:27)

Oh, my God. It's things like that too, as a mom where I'm be like, clap, like, you know what I mean? To everyone else.

B (49:31)

Very big daddy. When he's like, oh, when. When Julian's goes trick or treating, and then the guy's like, not right now. Like, I'm on the phone. And then he, like, goes in the back door, he's like, say trick or treat. Like, give him your watch. Give him this. And like, that's very. The vibes.

A (49:44)

Such a good movie. I want to watch that again.

B (49:46)

It's so good. I know. I.

A (49:48)

Someone told me your favorite Adam Sandler movie ever. Yeah.

B (49:55)

Oof. I, I, I really love it. Didn't do well, but I love Jack and Jill.

A (50:02)

Whoa. Where the. They're the siblings.

B (50:04)

He's a twin. Like. Yeah. Have you seen it?

A (50:06)

Yes, but not in so long.

B (50:07)

It's actually so good. Al Pacino's in it. He has like, the Duncachino and like.

A (50:11)

I'm watching that tonight.

B (50:12)

I.

A (50:12)

It's been so long.

B (50:13)

Love it. It's actually so funny. I don't know why more people don't talk about it.

A (50:16)

You know what the other one that no one talks about is that I love that I don't know the name of. It's like, where he is. He eventually comes into so much money in, like, the small town. Mr.

B (50:26)

Deeds. Yes.

A (50:27)

Yes.

B (50:27)

Mr.

A (50:28)

Deeds is such a good one.

B (50:30)

Yeah. That I feel like that's at his prime. That's like during Big Daddy. Yeah.

A (50:33)

But I feel like no one's ever like, I love.

B (50:35)

I guess they do. Like, Right. You're right. I feel like there is a quote from that that people do, but now I can't think of it.

A (50:40)

Yeah. I don't know, but that one's so good.

B (50:42)

The foot. The guy has like, the frozen foot.

A (50:44)

Yeah.

B (50:44)

And he's like the butler. Yeah. That one is Winona Ryder, right?

A (50:48)

With what?

B (50:48)

Winona Ryder's in it.

A (50:49)

Oh, I think so. Yeah. I think I love Just go with it with Jennifer Aniston.

B (50:54)

That one is so good.

A (50:55)

And murder mystery. I know those are newer, but, like, they kind of kill it.

B (50:58)

On the Boat with Jennifer Aniston.

A (50:59)

Yes. Like 1 and 2, they're just, they're such a dynamic duo.

B (51:03)

Oh. Actually, someone I know very well just wrote a movie that Adam Sandler was produ. I thought of. You actually wrote a movie that Adam Sandler was producing? And he texted me yesterday. He's like, yeah, isn't this so crazy? I didn't forget about a project just wrapped. A movie I wrote. And your hero was the producer. And he's like, I told him about you, but I was like, haha. Yeah, right. Like, whatever. I was like, Netflix. So iconic. He's the best. Hope you're well. We love do something together. I wanted to know, like, what did you say about it?

A (51:26)

Don't you love that, like, a picture.

B (51:28)

Of him and Adam Sandler?

A (51:30)

And I was like, like, only you have that picture.

B (51:32)

I know. I was like, oh, my God. I was like, how does it feel to live my dream? Cuz you get me excited about him again. I did have an Adam Sandler error and I feel like I was out of it. And then like, with you, I'm kind of like, okay, I kind of love him again.

A (51:42)

Yeah, we, like, feel each other. Each other so much.

B (51:43)

But we were just talking about him last time. Well, we always talk about him.

A (51:46)

Yeah.

B (51:46)

And I was like, that's so weird. That's so crazy. And he's like, oh, I still want to work with you. I was like, why don't you put me in this movie that you were.

A (51:51)

Doing that I will be the water person. I'll just bring him water. I won't say one word.

B (51:57)

Oh, I know. Like, so many, like, 1 degree of separations from Adam Sandler always.

A (52:01)

And literally one degree. Connor, who was in Justin, he messaged me the other day with him. He was like. And you know when people are just trying to. To, like, make you, as a psycho person, feel better? Like, he was like, you and Adam have so many similarities. I was like, okay, period.

B (52:16)

I love that, though. I love it. Because doesn't it make you feel like, oh, my God, we do. For a minute, you're like, maybe you do, my twin.

A (52:21)

No.

B (52:21)

We ever look up anything and be like, okay, like, we're both cancers or.

A (52:25)

We'Re both water snakes or I haven't, but I need to chill. Like, I know, I know I've done enough.

B (52:31)

I feel the same way sometimes. Sometimes I catch myself being. I.

A (52:34)

But I swear being a fan of someone is like. Like what life is all about at the same time.

B (52:38)

I think so too. I think it's like what drives you, what moves you.

A (52:40)

100. It's like, it's just like, so. It's one of the greatest joys of life to, like, feel so connected to people that you don't know.

B (52:47)

No, I think that's cool. Even. Even influencers, there's like, certain influences I follow that I just, like, love so much, and I'm excited when they're happy. And there's these. These two Tiktokers, you know, Josh and Abby, I think is their name. He or their shtick on YouTube on TikTok is like, he's really short. She always calls him, like a short king. And she's like a beautiful model. You don't know. Anyway, they're pregnant again with their third baby, and they're really young. They're both in their, like, early 20s and they already have two kids. And then they just got pregnant again. And I was like, I love them. Yeah. They're like. They're cute. Yeah. She's like, she look, she is like a model or was a model, you know Abby Herbert. Yes.

A (53:21)

Oh, everyone knows what me, I need to get on it. I'll get on it.

B (53:24)

I know they're like. I say they're niche, but they're not. Yeah, she's gourd. She's, like, pregnant. Yeah. I'm sure you've seen her.

A (53:30)

Like, she. She's.

B (53:31)

And they. I'm so parasocial with them.

A (53:33)

Oh, I've definitely seen them, but I don't, like, I need to. But I love that. Like, I'm so parasocial with Jaclyn Hill these days.

B (53:40)

Like, I'm so parasocial.

A (53:41)

She.

B (53:42)

I think she lives in this area. I think she lives, like, next door to me because she'll show, like, the Popeyes with, like, white roses, and I'm like, I know where those white roses are in front of a Popeye. Because she'd be like, wow, California's magical. Look at these roses. I'm like, only in this area. Yeah. So I did DM her. She did DM me the other day. I've asked her so many times to come on the podcast. And you want to come on. Just Trish. One time she said yes, and one time her team reached out and, like, I never hear back. It's always like, yes, then, like, never a follow up.

A (54:02)

I would just love to. And she's private. She's protecting her peace. She's been through a lot, but even just her new relationship, like, I. I'm so parasocial with her.

B (54:09)

Yeah, it's new, but not. They've been like seven years.

A (54:11)

I would watch that. Like, actually. Jaclyn Hill, new relationship.

B (54:15)

Not newer.

A (54:16)

New, like her newest. I should say, not new.

B (54:18)

Yeah. Jordan. Yes. The chef. We love him.

A (54:20)

Yeah. Not new. I think I would watch her do anything, though. Like, I would watch her scrape dust off a wall.

B (54:26)

Yeah, I do too. And I love that. That's, like, literally what she's doing these days. Days for content. Not scraping dust, but just, like, the whole stuff.

A (54:31)

Like, I love it. It's like, I just love that.

B (54:33)

Sorry, sorry, sorry. That was my bad. Sorry, sorry. Okay. I got scared.

A (54:36)

It's so fun. You're also. That's the cutest scared scream ever.

B (54:41)

I don't know why. Oh, it was you.

A (54:43)

Oh, my God. Hello.

B (54:44)

Hi. Look at the double glasses.

A (54:46)

I love those glasses too.

B (54:47)

You look so good. My mom was a mom. She door dash.

A (54:51)

Beautiful.

B (54:52)

She brought us Arby's for just Trish. And she found a way to keep those shakes so frozen. So she came from Simi Valley, which is like 30 minutes. She brought like three Jamoco shakes and she put them in like an insulated cup and it stayed frozen like the whole episode was a three hour episode.

A (55:07)

And that is everything.

B (55:08)

Yeah. You were the mvp.

A (55:09)

I need to try the jamoka.

B (55:11)

It's so good. Oh, my God. I know. I almost texted you when I forgot. I ran out of time. I almost texted you to get some for today, but you're here now. No, I almost did, but I forgot. Yes. Also. Yeah. You look great.

A (55:21)

You look beautiful. No, this little romper too. I need that. Yeah. Oh my God. You are so free people.

B (55:29)

Like, yes. You look great.

A (55:32)

She's such a free people baddie.

B (55:33)

She loves free people.

A (55:34)

Yes.

B (55:36)

Bougie. That was kind of expensive.

A (55:37)

Yeah.

B (55:38)

Loki. It's everything but anyways, that's it. Oh, Jacqueline Helm. Love her.

A (55:42)

Yeah.

B (55:43)

Her husband like makes these giant seafood boils every weekend. Do you see that? And it's like Mari loves the two Taylor Lautners come over and then that other girl was angry wood. She's there. Like, everyone comes over and I was like, oh, Manny, Laura.

A (55:55)

I was like, I love Manny and Laura too.

B (55:57)

I like them. Yes. Yes.

A (56:00)

Yeah. I think Manny is like just the funniest person alive. He's so funny.

B (56:04)

I actually don't like, watch, but like.

A (56:07)

We even just in person, like, I just think he's so funny. You should have them on.

B (56:11)

We love. Honestly. They both were following. I should follow them back. They both were following. Which I was like, from because, like, I feel like we have like a one sided beef, me and Laura Lee.

A (56:18)

Yeah, maybe not. I made a lot of Laura Lee jokes that I like. I was just like, I wish I didn't make.

B (56:24)

Did you ever apologize? Really so sorry.

A (56:25)

I just like, I was like, I hope you know I was just joking. Like, it was just like the southern accent and like I'd like review makeup and like, whatever. But her accent's so cute. You know what I mean?

B (56:32)

Like, I was just.

A (56:33)

But that, like, I used to be like that where it's like I was 100 just joking, but it's like you're still just joking to like a lot of people. You know what I mean?

B (56:41)

Like, yeah, but yours always was never. You were never from a place I hate. Like, when I look back at mine, mine, I was like screaming at Laura Lee. I'm like, you. It's like, I was, like, being so mean for no reason. So, Laura Lee, I apologize. I think she's like, a bad apology video. And everyone was like, f you. Like, I was like, dance. People were so mean.

A (56:59)

And it was me, too.

B (57:00)

I was on that bandwagon. I don't know why. Like, I didn't know her. And I was, like, so pissed. And I was like, this is so weird. So I've apologized to her.

A (57:06)

We need to tell Deborah about that because Deborah, our mom. Oh, she loves us, Laura Lee.

B (57:10)

We love Deborah.

A (57:11)

Like, for Christmas, I got her a video of Laura Lee saying, like, merry Christmas. Like, and shout out Laura for doing that. She made, like, she. All she had to do was just send, like, an iPhone video. She made, like, a cute, cute, like, really cute video. And Deborah literally cried. She loves Laura Lee, so really, we love Deborah.

B (57:27)

We love Laura.

A (57:27)

Yes. For every Christmas. That's all she wants.

B (57:29)

It's just Laura, Lisa, kind of everything. And you asked her. It wasn't a cameo. You're like, will you do it and check?

A (57:33)

Yeah. Yes. And she did. And it was so sweet.

B (57:36)

Oh, my God.

A (57:37)

It was like we were all crying on Christmas. She was so happy. Laura Lee quite literally made our Christmas.

B (57:41)

Oh, my God. I love you, Laura lee. She loves Dr. Pepper. She got me on a Dr. Pepper kip. I started watching her, and I was like, yes. And then, yeah, one time I went to Joey Grand Office Party, and I brought an iPad, which was above the budget, and everyone was pissed at me for doing it above the budget. But she took the iPad that I brought, and then she put it in a giveaway, and then we had beef because I was like, why the f Would you put it in a giveaway? Like, I was like, that was a gift. Somebody else could have had it.

A (58:00)

I miss old YouTube because that's the most, like. That's the most, like, time capsule. It's so right yourself. A party. You guys are playing White Elephant. Like, she gave away the iPad. Like, what a time cap.

B (58:10)

She stole the iPad from people that wanted it, and then she did it in a giveaway. I was like, you. You.

A (58:14)

That is so mad and such a time, so.

B (58:18)

Isn't it so great? It is. I think that's the best part, I guess, getting older and just, like, whatever is just being like, what a time. Like you said earlier. It's, like, not that deep. Like, nothing. Like, what? That's what everything was.

A (58:27)

Everything felt that it did.

B (58:29)

And I got uninvited from the next year to the Christmas Party. Joey and Daniel were like, trisha's not on the list. And Gabby, Hannah wasn't on the list, so she was pissed. She came for them. She, like, why am I not on the list?

A (58:41)

Like, and that was so real, too. Just if, like, Shane had a party and I wasn't it, like, if you weren't invited to those type of parties. Because there wasn't. Now there's so many other influencers. Like, if you aren't invited to an influence or something, there's something else you can go to.

B (58:53)

Right, right.

A (58:54)

Like, at that time, it was just those things and you were like, I'm not cool anymore.

B (58:57)

Specifically, like, Christmas parties. Like, very few people had them.

A (59:00)

Yes.

B (59:00)

So, like, Shane had one and it's like, yeah, right? And. Yes. Vlogged. Who there. Now it's like, oh, it's like my nightmare to be invited somewhere. I'm like, please don't invite me to your party. You know what I mean? But back then, yeah, it was like.

A (59:10)

Me about to invite Trisha to my party.

B (59:12)

No, I did. I put the date down. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna have to. Like, I had. I have to go. I feel like, rally, you know, if.

A (59:16)

You don't want to. I just went on this whole tangent, you know, where I was saying to you, like, I'm gonna become the friend who goes to less parties and, like, just celebrates in different ways. So. Yeah, I completely understand.

B (59:27)

But you're my one friend, so I'm like, I should be able to, like, make it out for that. So I'm like, already figuring it out. I'm like. Told me I was gonna figure out, like, a sitter situation. Like, yeah, only if.

A (59:35)

Only if it's easy.

B (59:36)

Yeah.

A (59:37)

And regardless, I just can't wait to see the lip combo on you. That's gonna be.

B (59:40)

No, I'm so excited for you. I'm just, like, so excited. Like, a big, like, a launch party is a lot. It's, like, a lot to do. You, like, said you wanted to be good, you wanted to be successful.

A (59:46)

We were having this whole, like, freak out too, because, like, another brand is launching something during the same time. And we were, like, debating moving it and all this stuff. And, like, we're not going to, but it was like, oh, really?

B (59:57)

So what was it? What was that conversation? Like this. What? What? Like, it was like, someone, some big brand is launching something, and then you're like, oh, we shouldn't.

A (60:03)

I think we have to bleep what I'm about to say. It's also A very different market. Like, I feel like mine is for kind of like not the full glam baddies. I wear it with no makeup all the time. But like, I don't know, just like it's a. It's a serious. It's a lip liner. It's a pigmented long wear lip liner. It's not like some smudgy, like, you.

B (60:19)

Know what I mean?

A (60:19)

Yeah. Like skin carry based type of thing. Like, it is. It's glam. You know what I mean? So I was like.

B (60:24)

And two different brands. Like you said, like, totally different brands.

A (60:27)

I trust and believe that the girlies who want to try it will try it. And I'm excited. And honestly, even if no one buys it, that's more for me. I love it. I wear it every day.

B (60:35)

Like, I'll take the whole stock.

A (60:37)

Literally. I would happily and wear.

B (60:39)

Inviting Jaclyn Hill nor Lee.

A (60:40)

Of course.

B (60:41)

I want to go.

A (60:42)

Yeah. Like, I want to invite all the beauty girls.

B (60:44)

That would be everything. Oh, my God, I wish they would do old school reviews. I feel like none of them do makeup anymore.

A (60:49)

I know.

B (60:49)

Which is like, so sad because I would watch.

A (60:51)

Jacqueline just did. I'm obsessed with her. She did like her everyday makeup routine or something. I haven't watched it yet. I need to. I know. It's bomb.

B (60:58)

I haven't seen. I just see her, like, hauling Trader Joe snacks and I'm like, I'm about.

A (61:01)

To become a full blown beauty guru through. I'm passionate.

B (61:03)

Yes. Are you gonna do tutorials?

A (61:04)

And like, like, I need to. Duo Lash Glue just changed their formula and I'm livid. Like, I feel like, really?

B (61:09)

I love Dual Lash Glue. What is it now?

A (61:11)

You know how the black one was gray to black.

B (61:13)

Yes.

A (61:14)

It is just black now. And I. It's like, it seems so simple, but it is infuriating to me because you have wiggle room when it's gray to like, move it around and like, kind of wipe away the gray. Like the pigmented dark. Black means like, where you put it is where you put it. Like, it's like as dark as, like eyeliner. Like, you'll get it on your eyelid. You'll up. Like, you'll. And like, as somebody who up, I'm like, why is this?

B (61:37)

And it doesn't. Oh, that's so interesting.

A (61:38)

And they didn't say anything about it. It's like the same packaging, the same product, and just now it's black and it's like, why don't you like a TikTok?

B (61:44)

I feel like they would change it.

A (61:45)

You did flopped me just yelling at the camera. No one cared. No one gave up. But I care. Duo, please send me gray to black. Yes.

B (61:52)

Do you know the white? I used to do the white one.

A (61:54)

I'm about to switch. I never liked the white because I felt like, like when you looked down sometimes like on top of black eyeliner you can see that like cleary residue. So I liked gray to black cuz it would like go black and blend. I'm living.

B (62:06)

No. That is actually so sad because I used to use duo when I do my own lashes and like I'm sure.

A (62:10)

That it works well for precise people being black. Like right, like just like I don't know, I'm not precise. I have shaky hands.

B (62:19)

Like do you do lashes a lot?

A (62:20)

Yeah.

B (62:20)

I love you when you don't have lashes. Like now I'm like, ooh, they're so like you really see your eyes and so pretty. You look fresh every time I see you. Like so fresh.

A (62:27)

I'm just lazy. That's the God honest truth.

B (62:29)

You're giving Nomi Malone and Showgirls today with like the boots and the dress. Like I love it looks like you're gonna go hitchhike to Vegas. Like it looks.

A (62:35)

Oh my God, I am gonna go. I've been itching to go to Vegas.

B (62:39)

Yes.

A (62:40)

The last time I went was in July.

B (62:43)

One day. I don't know when that day will come, but one day I would love to do like just a cute Vegas night because we've been in Vegas at the same time but we're gonna be to Vegas. I'm just so tired because like the kids we take to like the museums and then like the children's.

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A (64:15)

Yeah. I feel like Vegas daytime family friendly excursions are a lot.

B (64:20)

That was. Was kids peeing in the middle.

A (64:22)

In the middle of the room.

B (64:23)

I was like, what? And like, not one, not two, like 3 of kids peeing in the middle of a room. And I'm like, what do you mean?

A (64:28)

I just start crying. As the parent of that child, I would just start sobbing. I want to go to. I want to go to Mandalay Bay Shark Reef, though I haven't been since I was a kid, and I want to go so bad.

B (64:38)

That's our spot. We go there every time we go.

A (64:40)

Yeah, I just haven't been in a long time.

B (64:42)

They have a really good shark area. And it does look like the one in the Aquaman movie when baby Aquaman goes. Goes. Not our baby, but the one in the movie. And, like, all the sharks come to him because they all like, they can, like, I guess he communicates to fish. So they all come to the, like, little Aquaman in the movie. Oh, it's like a goal. It's pretty small, but I like it. And then you go through the convention center and, like, there's always conventions happening there. We, last time we went was a Home Depot convention, and it's so iconic. And then when you walk in, they all start clapping for you. So we have it on video, but, like, we start walking in and they. I think they thought we were part of the convention or whatever. And everyone's just like, cheering for us coming in and we're like, we're just trying to go to Mandalay Bay Shark Reef. But it was everything. And Malibu thought it was for her. It was so cute.

A (65:19)

That is so cute.

B (65:20)

Shout out to those conventions that just clap for anybody walking through.

A (65:22)

That's everything. And there's always a convention in Vegas.

B (65:26)

I always. I love a convention. I wish we could go to a convention.

A (65:29)

Not VidCon, but like a convention corporate America. Like, we just wear a full suit. We should try to sneak into a convention.

B (65:34)

O. I bet we. I bet we could maybe to, like, a. The. What's the one that I, Justine, always goes to? She goes, like, the E1. Yeah.

A (65:43)

You're talking about. Oh, my God. I. Justine. I love our, like, deep cuts these days.

B (65:47)

I know, right?

A (65:47)

Like, but she's around the icon.

B (65:50)

Yeah, she's a kind of. She said.

A (65:51)

Yeah.

B (65:52)

She's still unboxing a giant pink Mac. She's just that girl still.

A (65:55)

She is the Apple girl. I loved Overcompensating. I. I think people who didn't love it didn't get it.

B (66:01)

Did you make it to the Black Parade episode where they did My Chemical Romance? I love With Lucas Gage. I love anytime he pops up in anything. Like when I saw Overcompensating in the Black Parade episode where they were making out the bathroom, they had their first gay kiss. And while their friend was drunkenly singing Black Parade, it reminded me so much of one of my, like, concerts. I'm like, this is exactly what happens at a Trish B's concert. It's, like, me on stage just, like, bumbling through Black Parade while, like, two gays are in the bathroom making out. And I just like it. I just, like, loved it. I was like, oh, this is, like.

A (66:25)

My life was so good.

B (66:27)

I love the whole cast. They're all so good.

A (66:30)

They're everything.

B (66:30)

I don't know if it's getting picked up for second season, but I don't know. It hasn't been confirmed, but I don't know. Know.

A (66:36)

I really hope, because it kind of ended on, like, it ended like, there.

B (66:40)

Should be more episodes. I was like, wait, where's the.

A (66:41)

I want more.

B (66:42)

I guess that's the whole point. But Lopez vs Lopez got canceled, so I have no hope for anybody, honestly. But anyway.

A (66:47)

No, that's so. I really do hope. It was just so camp and so funny and the writing was so good and so good. I love shows that, like, touch on, like, modern niche. Like, common. You know, like, niche in the eyes of traditional media, but, like, common things that people like. I felt like euphoria was really like that, too, in certain ways, like, just overcompensating touched on so many things, like. Like, no one else does.

B (67:11)

Yeah, it's, like, super relatable, like you said, like, things that people don't talk about. And those are, like, the relatable moments. Like, even the girl, like, hooking up with, like, the other guy from White Lotus. You know what I Mean, it's just like, like it was just so real. And then like her, like, like, I don't know, the whole thing was good. Yeah, it's. It's very niche. It's about like a certain guy's story. It's about like, you know, his story about like pretending to be straight. But there's so much that like, touches so many people. All the people.

A (67:30)

I agree.

B (67:30)

I love it. Bring it back. Love Benny Drama. He's a tick tock. He started as a tiktoker. Right. And then he got his own show.

A (67:35)

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, and also all the skits.

B (67:38)

Yeah.

A (67:38)

Like, he was just so known for skits for so long, like on every platform and they were always so funny. Even, like, I loved when like Courtney Kardashian and him, like linked up and she made fun of herself with him.

B (67:48)

I didn't see that.

A (67:49)

Like, I love when he's. He gets recognized for his, like, humor. I feel like he deserves.

B (67:54)

He's iconic. Love the show.

A (67:55)

And I keep seeing clips of his podcast with the girl who's also on the show.

B (67:59)

What? Oh, he has a podcast too?

A (68:00)

They have a podcast together, right? Or that. No, no, no, not Lucas. Benny Drama. And yes. And the clips are so funny.

B (68:08)

She's the one that was like Charli XCX ignored me at the party. That one. I love her. That was such a good sound.

A (68:13)

Yeah, good. Such. Oh, I didn't even realize that's from overcompensating that sound. It is.

B (68:17)

Oh, it's so funny. When it was all over tick tock, I was like obsessed with it. It's like. And I'm sure she just like, didn't my vibe, but like, well, she would love me.

A (68:23)

Yeah.

B (68:24)

Me with everything. Also an old show. Like it's now. It's like months old. People are like, I think this is like shot months ago.

A (68:30)

No, no, we just love over compensating and hacks. I could go on a whole tangent.

B (68:33)

I love so good. They're all kind of like, why do those all feel so familiar? Like they all seem like they're in the same circle. Like family adults.

A (68:39)

Yeah, I'm just like, I feel like niche. Like, not niche, but like humor for the girls.

B (68:44)

Yes.

A (68:45)

Which is unfortunately niche. Like you don't see it as often as we should. But I love that this is also.

B (68:50)

Not very funny shows, period. Like, there's just like not comedy shows anymore.

A (68:53)

So it's nice when there's that actually have you like. And hacks is just such a good reel. I Haven't finished it yet. But like, plot line.

B (68:59)

So good. Oh, my God. The third season's really good. It also ends on a episode where you feel like there should be more episodes.

A (69:05)

Oh, I love a cliffhanger. Yeah, I do.

B (69:07)

No, one question. Let's do a speedy answer. We need one question and we have.

A (69:11)

To have our one call. I love when we take one. One call is arguably more insulting than no calls.

B (69:19)

Like, there's no they get. We give all our all our all to that one question. You know what I mean?

A (69:24)

So give her all to our one call.

B (69:26)

It should literally be like in the comments. Fast forward an hour and 10 minutes to the first question. It's only an hour and eleven minutes. Next episode of ten of calls.

A (69:33)

Yes.

B (69:34)

Hi, Trish. Hi, Tana. Oh, my God. I absolutely love you both. So I need some advice. I have been an intern and now I work full time for the fire department, but it's civilian in their office. And I just need some advice. I really love it and I've thought about becoming a full on firefighter. I have been volunteering for the past few months and I'm starting to love it. So do you think I should stay a civilian job or should I just go for it and become a full fledged firefighter? Love you. Bye. Oh, my. You know how we're talking about being like, doing Pilates? We should see if a fire department will let us be like firefighters for a day.

A (70:21)

I would do anything. That'd be so.

B (70:24)

It's like putting on all that gear. I've seen people do it where you put on like, all the heavy equipment and like, you know, we don't try.

A (70:29)

To slide down the pole.

B (70:30)

Oh, my God. I'd be so scared.

A (70:33)

Me too.

B (70:33)

I thought my special forces go down.

A (70:34)

This pole's like, no, no.

B (70:35)

That's so hard.

A (70:37)

That's really funny. If we did our own special forces, but it's just like the bare minimum. Minimum. Because I'm just like you. Like, it's like, that sounds like the hardest thing ever.

B (70:46)

Sounds so hard. If you, like, go down this pole, I'll be like, oh, man. We could be like Chuck and Larry. Adam Sandler reference. That'd be so cute.

A (70:51)

I would love to. I can't believe this. This is iconic as I love seeing women in fields that people, like, often associate with a man. You know what I mean?

B (70:58)

Yes.

A (70:59)

And life is short. Go for your passion. Like, why? You know, you can tell that that's what you want to do. So go do it.

B (71:05)

Like, yeah, I love that. You're, like, in there, and you're, like, got inspired. You're like, I want to be the actual firefighter.

A (71:09)

Yeah.

B (71:10)

That's a scary. It's, like, not an easy job.

A (71:12)

Arguably, like, the. The scariest.

B (71:16)

Fire fighting fire is insane.

A (71:18)

Like, I would lose.

B (71:19)

Yeah.

A (71:19)

Same, like, the fire would win.

B (71:21)

Like, saving, like, also, I guess I. I'm like. I don't know. Maybe I'm not a person. Like, risking your life to save other people, is it, like, amazing? Because, like, that's what we need. But it's like, heroes. Yeah. And, like, knowing that you're probably capable of going in there and surviving with them. But, like, me, I just. I don't know if I could go in and save, like, a stranger from a fire. Maybe. I don't know.

A (71:42)

You probably could if you needed to in that moment. But to, like, seek that out is such a level of compartmentalization. Like, I'm gonna compartmentalize my life and my emotions and my fears and my. You know what I mean? Like, all of these things. Yeah. And just go for it. Like, my fear would stop me from being able to do that. You know what I mean?

B (72:01)

I think that's it. Yeah. The fear of just, like, dying and just all this stuff or, like, you know.

A (72:04)

Yeah. Or failing. Like, not being able to.

B (72:06)

Oh.

A (72:07)

Because imagine. Imagine, like, that's probably happened. Firefighters who did everything they could to save in every way. Like, it just, like, it is crazy to compartmentalize all of that and just lock the in and run in a fire.

B (72:19)

No, I think those people are like, actual, like, superhero angels, whatever you want to call them, because it's just, like, how is that your job?

A (72:25)

And it's very crazy that the world is made up of so many different people, and there are people whose calling is to be a hero and dedicate their life to saving others. And that's just so, like, noble and really cool. I mean, male or female, it's like, the hardest human job in the world.

B (72:38)

But they don't seem very problematic. Like, you know what I mean? Like, your sketchy doctor stories, sketchy police officer stories. You know what I mean? Which, like, obvious sketchy and anything. We never really hear too many sketchy fire.

A (72:48)

That's so true. Like, firefighters are just like. They put their suits on in their truck and they're pure just trying to.

B (72:52)

Come save you out of that fire.

A (72:53)

Yeah. It's just like, oh, and getting. They get cats out of trees.

B (72:56)

You know, they get cats out of trees, and you know what? They're always like, so Goodlook. You know, like, I always see them at our El. They're always like getting groceries there. They always have their big fire truck out there.

A (73:04)

It might be the hottest uniform, I.

B (73:05)

Think so I always, especially when they wear the T shirts. I always call my sister. I'm like, firefighters at Ralph's, come here now. Like, I'm always just like, just roam the store, like, because it just seems.

A (73:13)

Like light yourself on fire in the middle of the store. Dad, save me. Like, it's so real.

B (73:20)

That's very Mr. Deeds too. Wasn't she putting herself in danger so that Mr. That deeds would save her and stuff? That is very. That. No, that is because they are. They also, like you said, they're brave, they're strong, they're always good looking, working. They probably make a lot of money. I mean, the only downsides, I think they do have to work like a 12 hour day. It's like 24 hours. Yeah. It's like three days. Yeah. Then they go home for like three days.

A (73:40)

That's so crazy.

B (73:41)

There was the saddest movie I ever saw was Ladder 49. Did you ever see that movie? It's with John Travolta and it is like the. Oh, my. I remember crying. I was like 12 when it came on theaters and I was just like sobbing. It's so sad. Someone's end up dying. One of the main characters, I can't remember, but it was like literally the saddest movie ever.

A (73:56)

And there's something about like a fire. It's just like. It is so scary and so sad and like just devastating, truly. So.

B (74:02)

Oh my God.

A (74:02)

To want to be the person like in between that and bringing light to such a dark situation is like, wow. I just. We're so proud of you, Queen.

B (74:11)

Yeah, do it. I. Well, if you want, but like, it sounds like you want to. And I think there should be no if, ands, buts, questions about it. Steve Buscemi was a firefighter for the FDNY. No way. And I think when September 11th happened, he went. Volunteered at his old ladder where he used to work. And he like went and like try to save people out of the rubble and stuff.

A (74:26)

That's so. I just got chills. It's like. And I. I think it's really cool too that like, I don't know, I just always imagine the girls who like listen to us and stuff and like, you don't always necessarily think of like firefighters listen to not Loveline. Like, how cool that we have so many heroes and people that we look up to listening and just a part of this family.

B (74:43)

Yeah, that's what is. It is so funny. Like, these people who are just, like, actual. Just like superheroes. Like, you're just like. Like.

A (74:49)

What do you mean? You're fighting fire. We love you. You're so hot. No pun intended. Like, I love you.

B (74:55)

Literally. Yeah.

A (74:56)

Yeah.

B (74:56)

Go get them, queen.

A (74:57)

Go fight that fire diva. She said. Or be a civilian. You could tell she didn't want to. I'm excited.

B (75:02)

I love that. What? I love that. I love when people call themselves civilians.

A (75:05)

Yeah. I'm so civilian coded, bare minimum NPC bought, like, truly in target. Just like, I'm a civilian.

B (75:14)

Okay, well, thanks for watching, and honestly.

A (75:18)

I'm about to talk about. Oh, some. I just. It made me think. I want to see Mako as a firefighter. I want to talk about that on the Patreon.

B (75:26)

Dress him up. I'll tell you what. I'm gonna dress Moses up. You can tell me. We'll talk about that on the Patreon, too. I have an outfit for him ready to go.

A (75:32)

I'm. I'm actually so excited. I'm so excited.

B (75:35)

I don't know if it's that pager uncoated, but, you know.

A (75:37)

No, I'm still so excited.

B (75:39)

We love you guys. Thanks for watching. Go to patreon.com, not loveline. We've got to say at the beginning, but if you made it this far, go. Thanks, guys.

A (75:45)

We love you.