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Trisha Paytas
Your teen adjective used to describe an individual whose spirit is unyielding, unconstrained.
Tana Mongeau
One who navigates life on their own terms, effortlessly. They do not always show up on time, but when they arrive, you notice an individual confident in their contradictions. They know the rules, but behave as if they do not exist. New Teenagers the new fragrance by Miu Miu. Defined by you this episode is brought to you by Jack Daniels. Jack Daniels and music are made for each other. They share a rhythm in the craft of making something timeless while being a part of legendary nights. From backyard jams to sold out arenas, there's a song in every toast.
Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
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Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
Tennessee Whiskey, 40% alcohol by volume. Jack Daniel Distillery, Lynchburg, Tennessee. And then you say you had to crash out. So like, okay, so is that because it was like such a high yo, your tart event? Tart launch?
Trisha Paytas
I think so. I don't know. I like, really noticed that I am the type of person that, like, when things are coming to an end, like, I still have that little girl in me who is like, scared to, like, go back to the way that life once was. Like, I'll always. I've always said my biggest drive of like, my biggest motivation is fear. And he looks so good.
Tana Mongeau
Good. Okay, well, thank you. O. Are we here? Are we going? Okay. O. Why am I nervous? Hi. I'm so nervous. Why am I nervous? Nervous.
Trisha Paytas
Today is so funny.
Tana Mongeau
Like, I don't know why.
Trisha Paytas
Honestly, I'm feeling like. I'm feeling good about this, actually. Are you? I am.
Tana Mongeau
I think I got nervous. Hi, welcome to Not Love.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, welcome back to Not Love.
Tana Mongeau
We're planning our Madison Square Garden and our K Forum shows as we speak.
Trisha Paytas
Maybe you're nervous cuz you just told me some insane news that I know you're not sharing yet, but.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, yes.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like, see that? Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
No, I love it. I love it. I filmed a video the other day and I was like, I got the most exciting news ever, but I can't talk about it. And it's like the most annoying thing when influencers do that in general. Like when something exciting news. But you guys will know soon.
Trisha Paytas
But a lot of times people's exciting news is like merch that just says, like, suck my. No, like, this is actually exciting news. I'm that person, by the way.
Tana Mongeau
I'm not shading people. I know what you mean. No, say me too. That's why I'm like. But this is actually Exciting news. And I think I've never. I haven't even said it to anyone because I'm just like, you know, I'm not like a. I'm not like, oh, to jinxing and then having to tell people, like, no, I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
You're so authentic, and I think that's important. Like, you're just being authentically excited about what is happening currently in your timeline. And you are also just. God, I can't wait to actually talk about it because everything else I want to say is wild. You amaze me. Like, you truly she. The way that anything she wants happens. It's just so cool to watch and, like, to support you, like, genuinely.
Tana Mongeau
I do think thank you for that and I think so. Same. Likewise with you. I, like, gotten so inspired. We'll talk about your tart event because it was so inspiring. But I do think, like, also when you're, like, in a good place in life where you're not. I was trying to think about this, like, okay, my whole life, I've always wanted things right. Like, I've always, like, been delusional or manifesting and all this stuff like that. And I feel like it. I never really got the things I wanted. I was, like, trying to figure out why. And I really do think because I was, like, blocking myself. I was always comparing myself to other people. I was always, like, jealous of other people. And I think finally, like, for the first time in my life in the past few years, like, I don't feel like I'm in competition with anyone. And if I see someone doing well, like, I'm actually, like, motivated by it and excited. So I do love seeing influencers too. Especially, like, I love seeing, like, Liza Kosher Koshy and Naked Gun. And I love seeing, you know. Did you watch it? Do you want to take a guess? She was, like, so good.
Trisha Paytas
She was so good.
Tana Mongeau
The perfect movie for her because she always does those, like, quick lines. And yeah, obviously she's been mainstream for a while, so it's like, not even her just seeing any influencer, like, get, like, win. Yeah. Jake Shane, like, is everywhere. And I, like, love seeing that for him. I just love seeing people and you two at your event, and I just. I don't know to be jealous, but.
Trisha Paytas
I swear to God, you guys, I'm gonna start bringing Trisha a list of things I want, because the second that you say something, it comes tr. Want to tell you that I was 100,000 million percent sure that these lip liners would not sell out until, like, near the holiday season because of how many units there were. Like, when Maureen told me the amount of units, I was like, oh, I have to give Tarte my blood and my firstborn and my fingers and my toes. And like, I can't. I swear you speaking it into existence is like why it happens.
Tana Mongeau
I don't think that's why I think it's you. Like, you are a no brainer. Like to me, I think every branch work for you or because it's like anything you say or do sells out. Like, that's just your touch. And it's why I was so excited when you want to even do this podcast because every time you come on our podcast, like views and it's like that for everyone. If you're going Jeff's podcast, any podcast you go on, you just talked about another guy wanting you on his podcast. I was like, I hate him, but.
Trisha Paytas
I'll know I can't do that one.
Tana Mongeau
But you bring in views and like, that is the thing. Like, you are like Midas, like the golden time. You know?
Trisha Paytas
Fans, like, it's so cool, like how we've just gotten to be so authentically ourselves. So our fans like die to see us win. And like when we love something, they know it's like not because we haven't always been the most, like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I was gonna say we haven't always been the most brand safe, but I'm manifesting the exact.
Tana Mongeau
Because we are now. We are now for sure. I know literally at the same time, the Arby's and the Tart and everyone's just like, like I said, excited because you talked. I love the compilation of all the times you talked about Tart. Like, I think that's so cool because it just shows the authenticity of you loving it. And that's what I did with Arby's too. I was like, I showed all the times I mukbanged Arby's to show. Like, I actually love Arby's because, you know, it's like. And I think that is.
Trisha Paytas
And it feels more special because even like when I'm watching my fav. Like, whoever it is, like, if I'm watching an influencer and I know they really loved something and they're like doing it, like, it does just feel much more real because it is. Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
And it's like, I even like with Taylor Swift, I know with her engagement, I asked, you know, Oscar such a big swifty. So I was like, you know, what is it about it that you're, like, so excited for her, you know? Yeah. And I get it, but I didn't get. Until he explained it this way, which makes sense. He's like, you watch someone who's. Who sings about heartbreak and, like, wanting love and all this stuff and finally get, like, her happy ending. Right. And so everyone's just, like, gagged over it. And I think that is.
Trisha Paytas
Made me want to cry.
Tana Mongeau
Right. Because it's like, I didn't get that either, like, fully, because I was like, oh, Taylor Swift, she's had amazing boyfriends and whatever, but I guess she has, like, a lot of heartbreak and she.
Trisha Paytas
Writes songs about it and dated some lizards and made some insane records about lizards, you know?
Tana Mongeau
You love Taylor Swift, too, right? You, like, love her music.
Trisha Paytas
Knew, though. Yeah. I wasn't. I've always loved the hits, but Paige really put me on. She's just like. Her writing is insane. She is, like, a writer. She's a poet. She's a tortured poet at heart.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And it's the smallest man who ever lived. That song, like, really changed my life. Like, just that whole album. Right.
Tana Mongeau
It was. And it was about someone in her life.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. She was engaged to Joe. Right. And living in London for him.
Tana Mongeau
And then the actor kind of. Is he an actor?
Trisha Paytas
I can only think of Joe from you.
Tana Mongeau
I was like, I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. And everyone, like, yeah, that's the one that, like, walked in front of her into, like, we were talking about paparazzi, how, like, guys walk in front of girls and it's, like, so rude. And he. I think Oscar telling me Joe did that. He had, like, a coat over his head and she was, like, chasing him and what, like, you know, and he wasn't, like, helping her, basically. Like, even though she was, like, the famous one, he was acting like he was the famous one. I was like, I hate this guy so much.
Trisha Paytas
Smallest man, whoever.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, that makes sense then. Yes. So seeing her get a happy ending, I think people are just, like, excited. And I think also. Yeah. Like, I think, like, so long I had to, like, troll and, like, just get negative attention because I thought that's the only tension that mattered. So it's nice to just, like, get to be. Just, like, breathe and get to be, like, myself and.
Trisha Paytas
And happy.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. And still have people care. Because I thought if I was boring, people wouldn't care. But it's almost like they came.
Trisha Paytas
That's so real. That is so real. But, like, people, the growth is so much more important. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, if peace is boring, then I'm boring.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I don't even care.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I say that too. I always say that. I always describe me and Moses is boring. And some people like, oh, don't say boring. But I'm like, I don't know how.
Trisha Paytas
You'Re not so in love and you have these beautiful babies.
Tana Mongeau
It's just they.
Trisha Paytas
Like, our nervous systems are. Well, I say that, but I've been crashing out for the past 48 hours. My nervous system.
Tana Mongeau
Right, right, right. You were saying? Well, we should talk about the past week for you, really? Because it was, like, tart, and then you say you had to crash out. So, like. Okay, so is that because it was, like, such a high yo. Your tart event, tarte launch?
Trisha Paytas
I think so. I don't know. I, like, really noticed that I am the type of person that, like, when things are coming to an end, like, I still have that little girl in me who is, like, scared to, like, go back to the way that life once was. Like, I'll always. I've always said my biggest drive of, like, my biggest motivation is fear. You know what I mean? And I think with canceled ending, even though, like, obviously Brooke and I are so happy and excited for the future, and that's a huge thing, I think that having this thing that theoretically, like, was comfortable and made was a huge source of income and, like, was just. You know what I mean? Like, walking away from that, like, does incite a level of fear. You feel like you're jumping into the ocean and you have to swim. And so tarte was, like, perfect for me. It was this perfect, like, almost not distraction, but, like, thing to, like, make me. And I noticed that I build my whole schedule up so insane and fill it up so insane to not, like, be just, like, to distract myself from the fear, I guess. Right, right. And so I think that this thing finally came out and all this hard work was, like, finally done. And, like, I just went insane. I did 50 million photo shoots and, like, all the creative and, like, I don't know, like, so then I guess it was, like, time to really think and sit with myself again. Like, that next day, I was over the next day.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. How does it feel? Because it is, like, so insane. Like, it was like an event. We talked about this on just Church, but, like, it was like, photograph. It's like, overstimulation to the max. And, like, obviously, in a good way. It's all these influencers there for you. Everyone's like, literally, it's like, Kayla Malik D. Mendoza. Like, Jake Weber. Like, everybody is like, there used to love is blind people, which I know are huge right now. I don't know love is blind, but.
Trisha Paytas
I know they're like, But I love. Love is blind too. I had a love is blind era, though.
Tana Mongeau
It was all love is blind at one point.
Trisha Paytas
And I was blind too.
Tana Mongeau
I know Love Island's like a list right now. Like, that's it. I really. I need to get on it, but again, I'm very old, but I need to get on that.
Trisha Paytas
But you don't watch it in real time. There's no nothing. There's no, like, maybe the next one. I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, but there was Love island people.
Trisha Paytas
There, which is big. And I may never watch it again. It was so. But I love the people from the season because I was so passionate and.
Tana Mongeau
One of them was at your.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, but I didn't even see her. I was, like, so locked into, like, tarte world.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, it's hard because it's like a wedding where you have to, like, say hi to everyone. And it was like, bigger than, like, my wedding. It was like, so many people, so many photographers. It really was. It felt like a wedding. It was so crazy.
Trisha Paytas
I kept, like, hiding with you. I kept going over to you and being like, let's hide in the corner. And you were like, go back to your party.
Tana Mongeau
And I was like, no, I was. I know. We talked about that too. And I was like, honestly, like, it is, like, so flattering. And as someone who's, like, so scared and shy, I was just, like, so excited because I was like, oh, that's so nice. Like, it was so comforting. But at the same time, I know. I'm always like, I know how it is at those things. Not to that scale, of course, but it's like, go talk to everyone. It's so hard to talk to everybody, like, at anything. It is.
Trisha Paytas
But it's about this thing that I'm so excited about. And it was just cool because this is actually the smallest party I've ever thrown.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, my God, by a landslide.
Trisha Paytas
Okay.
Tana Mongeau
Because you told me, like, it's a small little thing. And I was like, as soon as I get there, I'm like, poker tables, burger smash burgers with tana branding. Like, gift bags, champagne.
Trisha Paytas
Like, you are right. Like, I am so drama. Because that was not a small party at all.
Tana Mongeau
Red carpet.
Trisha Paytas
But I used to throw, like 500, 600 people parties, and the venues would be so huge. So I was so nervous. I was like, my Party is going to be a flop. And a lot of people were in New York like for the VMAs and Profession Week. A lot of people that I wanted there couldn't make it. And I was like, oh my God, it's going to be such a flop. And then I got there and like it was more just like a lot of people that I really care about, not as much like fluff I guess, which was nice. Like you were there. Makoa, he brought all of his friends and it was so cool because they're all these like, you know, like they do their straight. They love their NFL and they're surfing and they're all the. But they were lip liner out. I didn't hear one thing about NFL Sunday, like NFL Thursday, whatever the it was.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I don't know when it's on all day Sunday and Thursday.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I know. But it was just like very sweet. Like everyone was there.
Tana Mongeau
It was insane. I wanted to meet. I didn't get to meet her. Camilla from the Bop House was there. I was like, damn, that's.
Trisha Paytas
She flew from Miami just for the night. Flew out the next morning at 5am I love her.
Tana Mongeau
So insane. That's so. No, the amount of people, the amount of people and stars and celebrities and.
Trisha Paytas
Just support, like just truly like seeing every. Seeing you come out. Like, I saw everyone's comments being like, Trisha left the house on Bolognese night. And I. It's so funny because the sentence is so like mad lib coded. But I was like moved, genuinely moved. She missed Bolognese night for us. And like even just you just gave birth to Aquaman. I know you're not like, you going to a party is not your dream scenario and like, I just love you.
Tana Mongeau
I was very nervous. Nervous. But like, luckily, like right when we got it, I saw two people I knew right away, which is Alexis Oakley and Gigi. Gorgeous. So as soon as I was like, okay, I feel like better because I was like crapping my pants. Like literally when we were like pulling into the valet, there was just so many influencers. And you know, like, I'm also again very old and like appreciative of being an influencer still. But there's just so many young influencers.
Trisha Paytas
That I'm just like, it is overwhelming.
Tana Mongeau
It feels like going back to high school, but you're just like this old person that like never graduated and you're just like, no, my gut, like, I just got really intimidated very quickly. But people were very nice. And Maureen, we saw her right out of the gate, too. And she looked amazing. Him.
Trisha Paytas
She loves you.
Tana Mongeau
I was so shook. And then I was like, oh, my. Like, you know, everything just starts flooding in your head. You're just like, oh, my God. Does this person like me? Does this person hate me?
Trisha Paytas
That's me, though. I mean, I podcast about everyone. I've podcasted about probably everyone in that room, probably for the better of the worse, you know, like, we're the same in that sense. So I feel you. But when you walked in, you and I were hugging, and I watched. I'm not joking. You, like, 12 people's necks. Snoop to see you, like, outside and in the flesh. And, like, I watched like. Like, who was it? I forget. It was some girl, and she was just like. Like, her jaw dropped that you were there. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm gonna cry again. I'm not. I'm literally such a crier. It just, like, meant a lot to me because I know that I have to be pregnant or something. Crying so much.
Tana Mongeau
Be like, I need a test.
Trisha Paytas
I know Nicole was trying to order one last night. I think he thinks I'm pregnant. Like, that's. I've been crying so much.
Tana Mongeau
You've been crying? You talked about all the food. You haven't told me yet because I'm like, save for the podcast. You're like, I ate so much food yesterday. I was like, wait a minute. Because, you know, I love food. And, like, let me hear what you ate. All of it.
Trisha Paytas
So day after the party, I'm, like, crying. I'm crashing out, whatever. Couple days go by, and then, like, yesterday is the day, right? I wake up and Mokoa's going on a trip, right? And I don't know if I want to, like, say where he's going, but it's really far. And I have been, like, crashing out. Crashing the. I'm talking level 10. Like, someone died crying about him going on this trip. And it's, like, so strange because it's also. It's like, to this destination that a lot of people go for, like, partying and, like. Like, I hear the crazy about people doing these.
Tana Mongeau
Were there.
Trisha Paytas
Yes, A lot of them. And I know a lot of people who are there right now and have been telling me all these crazy stories. So it's been, like, building me up to be so, like, into. And I trust him fully.
Tana Mongeau
So I'm like, yeah, the last time.
Trisha Paytas
He was, like, out and away this far, too, I was on tour, and I just, like, was in Kansas City or somewhere. Crying on this bus because he was gone. So I think it's, like, past almost PTSD that I'm.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Holding on to. I was crying in a way yesterday. That is like. And I'm not even, like, codependent like that. I don't know what it is about this specifically.
Tana Mongeau
Let's go separate all the time. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know what it was. Your hormones. Yeah. Like, am I literally. And then I have a list of. I texted Amari everything I ate yesterday.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, my God. Oh, Mari's not here. I think it feels like a different. He's in San Diego.
Trisha Paytas
I've been crashing out over that, too. I'm like, come.
Tana Mongeau
That's what's figuring out the possibly. If it's after, not Loveline or if it's a different day. Like, would Amari still come? Like, if it's not, I make him.
Trisha Paytas
Fly from wherever he is.
Tana Mongeau
Because I am gonna plan that for sure. Before.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. Our pasta game night.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Yeah. That'd be so fun. No, I'm actually really excited. That's easy to plan.
Trisha Paytas
I need to attend a bolognese.
Tana Mongeau
Yes. And. And we'll make ziti, too. We'll make, like, a bunch of pastas. Like, it'll be. The ziti's like, a baked pasta. And. Yeah. Because I do love a bolognese. But then I'm always like, is it kind of too plain where, like, other people eat it? Like, are they gonna. Like, my mom loves it, my dad loves it, but I'm always like, I love Bolognese. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But I also love cheese. I put cheese on everything. Like, I'd put cheese on.
Tana Mongeau
He puts cheese. And the ziti has cheese on it, too. Like, the cheese, everything. Yeah. It'd be so fun. I haven't eaten it all either. I was going to have a little snack.
Trisha Paytas
We were watching Malibu eat her breakfast, and it was so funny. I was hovering over her. I was like, you want anything?
Tana Mongeau
I can hunger. Like, she didn't eat the Mac and cheese. She only eats, like, the watermelon. She was at the end eating it, but she's eating a watermelon. Cucumber. And like, I was telling you, like, when we order Masters, she won't eat the Mac and cheese. So I'm just like, okay, more for me.
Trisha Paytas
Or whatever.
Tana Mongeau
Honestly, we could have had the Mac and cheese.
Trisha Paytas
She's. Our Malibu is Nora Smith. Like, she's so healthy. She's my queen. I had. Because I got here an hour early, and it was the best, which is so Insane.
Tana Mongeau
I was like an hour early. I like what you thought it was noon, but even you came right on the dot, even if it was new. I checked her text. I was like. Because I was just like. I wasn't like, I was almost ready but not there. And then I just checked. But then I was like, damn, you were right on the dot.
Trisha Paytas
Well, because last time I was 20 minutes late because of Grey's Anatomy and I have to be accountable for that. And that is unacceptable behavior.
Tana Mongeau
20 minutes is like fine.
Trisha Paytas
No, but I'm changing. Like I want you know, you know I'm passionate about being timely in this era.
Tana Mongeau
You're now early today.
Trisha Paytas
And today I was early. And it was so fun. I got to like she was still in the glam chair. And I've never seen someone like glam. You and your glam always looks insane. So I was just like watching and it's different.
Tana Mongeau
Why? We were about talking and then. Yeah. And then Malibu came down and when she came back from ballet and then Moses was like, she wanted to play with Tana. She's like, well, Tana, play with me. So she sat, had her lunch. It was so cute. And she was like ate her lunch at the thing. She had her little tray. And then you were like glamming her and asking her questions. Even here. I have to see if Moses has. I think he might have been filming the end of it. You were interviewing her and she was like answering those questions rapid fire. So cute.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, what's your favorite Disney princess? She was like Snow White.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And it was so. She's my whole wide world. She makes me want a kid so bad. But Amari and I always laugh about the fact that like, like I would go and have kids because like I. Your kids make me want kids so bad. And then my kids would be nothing. The like your kids.
Tana Mongeau
That's so not true. Whether it's your kids or you adopt, I just know. Like cuz you're so good with kids and Moa is so like, like calm and like nurturing. Like with you. I know you guys would be like amazing parents because you guys have the same ying and yang as me and Moses. So I think it'd be like such. And you're so good with. Melboy was telling you this in here. Like before I had kids awful with kids. Like, didn't even want to talk to them. Didn't want to be in the same room with them. Like I never liked other people's kids. And even now as a parent, I really had to, like, push myself to start other kids. Because I was just like, I don't know about this. But now, of course, now I, like, love kids and I'm a little more maternal than I was. But you're so good naturally that I love her. You would be. And because of the way, you know, people say that they're trying to, like, their parents or they break the cycle. And because you're so aware of, like, your parents. Yeah. Even having your own kids, you're like, the other day you were talking about this where you're like, I don't even know if I want my own kids. You're like, I just want to, like, end the lineage, you know, like, just really being like, maybe adoption, whatever.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Just because you're so aware of, like, make you know what it is. Which, by the way, I think if you had your own kids, too, you could totally break the cycle. And it doesn't have to be.
Trisha Paytas
I think that I will because of Mokoa's like, he wants at least one. Yeah. But in my dream world, I'm Angelina Jolene out. I'm going to do both.
Tana Mongeau
She did both. So it's like, I do see, even when we talk about adoption, here I was like, honestly, I always say, like, I'm done having kids, but probably in five years I'll be like. And not even like, a baby. Maybe, like, adopt like a child who's harder toward, like, five is, like, harder to, like, you know, something like that or seven. Like, that way they'd be the same age. So I'm like, well, just because, like.
Trisha Paytas
The foster care systems are very. I know people have good stories, and I don't want to, like, demean it all to being up, but you hear a lot of horror stories and, like, I don't know, like, there's just a part of me that's like, I'd rather, like, save a life that's already existent. You know what I mean? That, like, maybe wouldn't be the dream, the best childhood for a kid. Just because I'm so passionate about, like, even my childhood being bad. You know what I mean? Like, I would love to, like, I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, of course. No, like, adoption is, like, such. So when you talk about you, I was like, I could see that for us. Because I know in, like, a few years when I, like, get it all, because the baby stage is rough. But I do love, like, Malibu's age is like, she's going to be three soon. And I'm just like, oh, I do, like, love this.
Trisha Paytas
So it's so cool watching her grow up too. In the Just Trish room, there's like a photo of me and Malibu and she's like a baby.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Literally, just.
Trisha Paytas
It's so crazy. And like, I love her so much.
Tana Mongeau
Like, talking and having full conversations, but okay. Your food.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
Tana Mongeau
I know. We got so. I was so invested earlier when you're like, I ate so much food, I'm like, let me tell you, I ate.
Trisha Paytas
A full Philly cheesesteak sub.
Tana Mongeau
Thank you so much to se for sponsoring today's episode of Not Loveline.
Trisha Paytas
We love seat geek in this house and we're so excited to see so many live shows.
Tana Mongeau
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Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
Yes. Their US tour is over, but they're going to be in Mexico for Valentine's Day and they're going to be in London next summer. So I still see myself going to the black parade real soon.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God, you and Moses. Valentine's Day. Seatgeek tickets to My Chemical Romance.
Tana Mongeau
Not opposed to it. Of course I'm gonna be excited for Ariana Grande. Yeah. They may have sold out, but guess what? SeatGeek will have tickets.
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I've been seeing Addison Ray's tour a lot too, and she's serving. She looks insane.
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I want to get a VIP with Addison Rae because she does sound bad masks with her VIPs. And I was like, this is everything.
Trisha Paytas
That is.
Tana Mongeau
That is everything I want to copy here. I'm like, I'm doing this for my next meet and greet and imagine how relaxing that is.
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Like pre show, like just for your mental. That's it.
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Everyone's there with you. Just like vibing, like, love it.
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Yes, we love that.
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Thank you, seatgeek, for sponsoring today's episode of Not Loveline. A Nashville hot chicken sub. Both of these were dipped into a cheese that on the Uber eats menu was just titled Whiz. Just wiz. Wiz.
Tana Mongeau
Was it a ghost kitchen? What was it?
Trisha Paytas
I have no idea. I just, like, ordered Philly cheesesteak near me, dipping them into whiz. Okay. Just whiz. Just w. I z. Whiz. I was whizzed out. And then onion rings with the whiz. Then McDonald's. A large McDonald fry. A snack wrap. The blue and pink. The new shake, full shake. Cleared it. Cleared it. And I was like, I. It felt like I was drinking, like.
Tana Mongeau
Body wash. Yeah, that shake is not it. Love McDonald's, but not that shake.
Trisha Paytas
I felt like I was drinking, like, something in a cartoon. Like. Like it was so unhealthy. A frozen Coke. And then I had a $43 Dubai chocolate strawberry. Like, it's this large cup. Oh, I saw on here.
Tana Mongeau
Would you post it on post on your Instagram?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, the same place that also sells a Labubu Dubai chocolate bar I ordered this Dubai chocolate cup from.
Tana Mongeau
It was.
Trisha Paytas
It was sick.
Tana Mongeau
Why'd you do the Labuu?
Trisha Paytas
I didn't. Because, no, I'm not. If I'm ordering a Labubu Dubai chocolate bar, I guess I'm ordering from the restaurant. So I'm already. But like, that's like.
Tana Mongeau
Don't you think? I'm like, oh, this is so good for a tick tock or something.
Trisha Paytas
No, I do. You're right. For a tick tock. That would be good. But it wasn't a tick tock. It was me in my bed.
Tana Mongeau
Which is your tick tock. Yeah, it's in your bed.
Trisha Paytas
Always True. That is true.
Tana Mongeau
It's always just you, like, in the dark. Like, guys, I have something to say. I always, like, love it.
Trisha Paytas
I need to make a, like, burner account. Like a user 9.
Tana Mongeau
I love when people do that. How do they do that? They just create a new account.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. I Need to do that because it's like I'm always just yelling at my phone in bed.
Tana Mongeau
I love it. I love that. I love when I wake up the.
Trisha Paytas
Next day and I like, forget what I posted because it's usually after I.
Tana Mongeau
Garden and I'm like, I love the garden thing. I started seeing people, like, on the live chat of our podcast. Like, people would be like, like gardening. Like, what is everyone eating? And I was like, what? What does this mean? I didn't know. I love that.
Trisha Paytas
I'm a. I'm a gardener.
Tana Mongeau
Well, so then you had a crash out yesterday because he's going far away. You're eating all this food, which isn't like that crazy. Yeah, it was gonna be like I.
Trisha Paytas
Was out of dopamine. But the full subs, the whiz, like, it was. It was intense.
Tana Mongeau
Is Makoa eating this with you or are you just like solo?
Trisha Paytas
Mokoa is like munching on it with me, but I'm like three fourths of every single one of those items was.
Tana Mongeau
Just you two or is like. Sorry. Actually that's great. Are you like in bed? Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. Like, oh, my God. The other day we were falling asleep when we found a Kit Kat in the bed. Wrapped, thank God. But like, it's like. What do you mean? It's like me, mo and our KitKat under the pillow.
Tana Mongeau
It's like, oh, actually, that's so cute. No, at your tire party too. Like, Mico is always just so chill. Like, he's like almost too cool. Like, every time I see him, I'm like. And also in person, he's so tall and like striking. It's a very intimidating. I'm always like, oh, my gosh. And because we don't see him all the time, it's like mystery. I was like, oh, my God. He's like mysterious. And I'm just like, wow, this is like so. It's like intimidating.
Trisha Paytas
He would laugh so hard to hear that because I. I know he doesn't say it, but I know he feels the same way about someone else.
Tana Mongeau
Really?
Trisha Paytas
He probably felt like. Feels that way about.
Tana Mongeau
No, I don't. He seems like 101. Yeah, he seems too cool.
Trisha Paytas
No, he's like, Moko is very. Like, he overthinks a little bit and he's like very to himself and like, what's his sign? Aquarius.
Tana Mongeau
Aquarius is a January or February.
Trisha Paytas
February. February 16th. And if I'm wrong, I'm not even joking.
Tana Mongeau
No, I think that's Aquarius.
Trisha Paytas
If I'm wrong. Like, take my Hawaii condo away. Take my microphone away. Like, I'm jumping.
Tana Mongeau
At least you know his birthday too. That's good. No, it's definitely Aquarius because my sister's January 22nd. At least you know his birthday.
Trisha Paytas
My ultimate eye woman.
Tana Mongeau
Okay, no. People come for me all the time because I don't know how to pronounce Moses Akr last name. I'm always like. I have no idea how you say. It's like Hackman. I don't know. I don't know how you say it. And it's my name. I literally, like, don't know you've ever said. So you're so.
Trisha Paytas
The birthday I have on lock. The Aquarius. Yeah. Yeah, he's an Aquarius, which I so did you.
Tana Mongeau
When you're having, like, your crash out, are you, like, crashing out on him? Are you just, like, just the. Don't leave or was there, like, more?
Trisha Paytas
I was. I was crashing out on him a little. I'm not gonna lie. Just like, I'm not gonna. And he's so understanding and so patient and so kind and so calm and so perfect. And I have lots of demons that I love to pretend like I have completely worked through. And the God honest truth is I'm realizing that, like, some of these things maybe aren't dead. They're dormant. You know what I mean? Like, crazy Tana, she's. She's just dormant.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I don't think it ever goes away, like, fully. Yeah, exactly. And like, you have to work hard at, like, keeping them at bay.
Trisha Paytas
And he was very patient. And it's funn. Then we get in bed, I'm uber eating Dubai chocolate strawberry cups. I look over at his UberEats and he's ordering pregnancy tests. Like, he's like, oh.
Tana Mongeau
He's like, did he get him?
Trisha Paytas
No, I talked him out of it, which is crazy.
Tana Mongeau
Why didn't you? Don't you want to know? Like. And either way, I'm a not knower.
Trisha Paytas
I'm a big not.
Tana Mongeau
You're gonna be the. I didn't know I was pregnant. Nine months later, you're gonna have this baby.
Trisha Paytas
TLC galore. That'd be good for me. That's the only way I think I could give birth vaginally is if I didn't know all the way until the.
Tana Mongeau
Moment until it happens. You're just on the toilet, you're just like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, well, because before my period, I'm really emotional. And then yesterday was like, that times seven. So I think that in his head, he was like, this has got to.
Tana Mongeau
Be like, hormonal, uterine a chance, you think? Like, there could be like a chance. Slight chance, maybe.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. I mean, also my mom, like, growing up, she had a lot of hormonal issues that made her super depressed and like, super. Just different things. Crying a lot, super emotional, yelling, like, all those things. So I think I'm finally getting to the age where I need to like, like look into that as well, because I never want it to like, get as bad as unfortunately it was for her.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. So I'm like, monitor it.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it could be that. I don't know. I really don't know.
Tana Mongeau
And.
Trisha Paytas
Or maybe truly, like, it's just the highs of like all the tart thing being exhausted. I've been exhausting myself over Grey's Anatomy to a point that is like, to be studied.
Tana Mongeau
Like, so you finished the finale but of not the series? What season two.
Trisha Paytas
Season two of 20. And they're like the 12 episode seasons are an hour long.
Tana Mongeau
So, like, when you go to Hawaii, are you gonna be able to like, ever enjoy it? Like, are you gonna like, enjoy vacation or you're just gonna be on Grey's Anatomy on every night?
Trisha Paytas
I'm gonna be. I unfortunately think this sickness can only be cured by finishing the show. I, like, really, I. Like, there's a part of me that's like, do I have a touch of the tism? Like, I'm not kidding. Like, the way I'm like obsessed with it is alarming. Like, and I will like, hurt myself. Like, I'll stay up until 6am and then have to get up at 10am for something. And it's like, I'll be laying there like 1am being like, I know I need to stop. I know I need to stop and I won't stop. You know?
Tana Mongeau
Is it like, do you have someone to talk to about it? Like, is Nicole watching it with you? Are you texting someone? Like, oh my God, this just happened.
Trisha Paytas
Like, just think he realized because I think in the beginning he was like, this is a 20 season commitment. I see the way you're hurting yourself by watching this. Like, like, you know what I mean? It'd be one thing if I was watching like two episodes and I. I'm not. I'm engulfed, like, fully.
Tana Mongeau
Are you following like the actors on Instagram and like dming them?
Trisha Paytas
The thing is, is there's so many spoilers that I don't want to get on the side of, like the Internet about it. Paige like, accidentally spoiled a huge thing for me. Like, bless her heart. It was so accidental. But, like, oh, you hate spoilers for this. I don't want to know because I. I can't emotionally handle what I do know. It's a very. It's the saddest show I. And I love sad. That's another mental thing I have to work through. Like, sad. I love sad music.
Tana Mongeau
A lot of people like sad. I think it's, like, comforting or something.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. But I've been crying so much over Grace. So much over everything.
Tana Mongeau
But maybe that's why you should go through spoilers. Because I'm someone who doesn't like the unknown. Like, I get really. Like, I love spoilers normally. Oh, but this one, you don't. But maybe if it's making. If it's a sad thing, you want to know ahead of times, like Lost, I need to know every single person who died and when you, like, mentally prepare for it. Because I think if it happened, I would. If I did. If I don't know, then I. It, like, it actually, like, scars me.
Trisha Paytas
And there's, like, deaths every episode pretty.
Tana Mongeau
Much usually get some spoilers.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, you're probably right. Like, it's. It's bad. But anyways, Yeah, I think McCoy realized that my problem with this show is bigger than him. And then it's like, you can't beat him, so join him.
Tana Mongeau
So he's been watching, so you're there.
Trisha Paytas
He's been joining, which is really.
Tana Mongeau
I was thinking maybe to get, like, make it, like, not such, like, an addiction, but more of, like, a work thing. You could start, like a podcast. Like a Grey's Anatomy podcast, where you just dissect each episode, talk about it.
Trisha Paytas
You were right. Like, I should, like, or at least a tick tock series, but I'm scared because then I'm gonna get spoilers.
Tana Mongeau
I know people are pretty respectful online, I feel like. Or they'll say spoiler or something so you don't read ahead. I feel like people are really sensitive to spoilers, which is crazy because I love spoiling things for people. Like, if I had watched Grey's Anatomy, I would be like, today who? I spoiled Wednesday for the glam. They were like, oh, I'm only on season one. I'm like, well, season two, the end is this. And they're like, what? I was like, I just. I'm well spoiled because I love spoilers. I love spoiling.
Trisha Paytas
I do, too, normally. I really do. Honestly. Trisha, that's great advice, though, to, like, put it into My work.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, make it. I'll feel more fulfilled. You're right. Let me. I'm going to start a TikTok series.
Tana Mongeau
Although that's so, like, Austin McBroom of me, because it was like, why aren't you filming this? Why aren't you filming your reactions to, like, you know what you're like. No, you.
Trisha Paytas
You and I are similar. That I think, you know me and, you know, I feel a little more fulfilled and less, like, depression rot about this show.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. That's how I would feel like, if I, like, really loved a show. I did a Lost podcast for, like, every, like, season. Because I was like, okay, I'm, like, really invested in this too much. And I was like, everything. Yeah. Last, like, six episodes. It's on my main channel.
Trisha Paytas
Would you do an episode about the season or.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, but I probably should have gone. But I was like, you. This was before we had Malbout, when I was pregnant with Malibu and we would watch a whole season in, like, two days.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
So after the two days, I would go do the podcast and then, like. Yeah, I was just doing it. Our maternity photo shoots were Lost themed. I was. I made Moses be Saeed and I was Hurley, I love you. Wow.
Trisha Paytas
That makes me want to be Meredith Gray. Maybe I will. Yeah, I love me.
Tana Mongeau
We're just talking about how we're, like, not into Halloween this year, but Meredith Gray seems easy, right? She's in scrubs. You could do that. Who would Mokoa be?
Trisha Paytas
That's true. McDreamy. He'd be McDreamy.
Tana Mongeau
Okay, so you just.
Trisha Paytas
He's my McDreamy.
Tana Mongeau
You get like a. Some. The hospital set. Weren't you just on a hospital set or was that not for Tart?
Trisha Paytas
Would you do one for Tart? There. There was a hospital set.
Tana Mongeau
So just go back to that set.
Trisha Paytas
And you're so right. Like, honestly. But I'm, like, thinking that we've been talking about this, but opting out of Halloween seems so mentally healthy at least.
Tana Mongeau
Yes. At least the way you do it. Because, like, us two last year I was doing, like, all of October, and I was like, okay, one costume for just Trish. One costume for this one family costume.
Trisha Paytas
That's how I feel. Like, I think it's. That's where I'm at. Because. Because, like, every year on November 1, I always tell my assistants, like, June and October are the worst months of working for me, in my opinion, like, on November 1st every year, it's like, I'm sleeping for, like, four days.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Because I'm just scheduling, like, shoot, shoot, shoot. I always go to an event time with the shoot. Like all of the things. Getting the stuff, the fittings. Like, it takes up like almost all.
Tana Mongeau
Of the months so much. I know.
Trisha Paytas
And then I just like, I don't know. Last year too, like Avatar with Mako, when we were standing there in my living room, living room, butt naked, getting sprayed blue, freezing, scrubbing off. Avatar took like 48 hours.
Tana Mongeau
I remember two days. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Clogged the shower drain. It's filled with blue. My walls are blue. Everything's blue. My hair is blue. It wasn't hot. It wasn't sexy. It was so disgusting. Like, I just.
Tana Mongeau
There's a part of me for what are we doing this?
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Tana Mongeau
We're not in a James Cameron movie. We're just doing.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, Avatar would not love to have you. Like, it's. It's so true. It's so true.
Tana Mongeau
Sometimes I think about that too. Like all the work you put into it. But it's is like fun memories. That's why I really. I'm like you. Like, I do love Halloween and like, I don't want to miss out, especially like my family and stuff like that. Or us.
Trisha Paytas
Let's go to a pumpkin patch.
Tana Mongeau
Let's go.
Trisha Paytas
I love horror nights. I'm gonna go. Like, I wanna. It's my favorite holidays. I love universal scared.
Tana Mongeau
Like, I hate jumps. I think I went once with Shane, I think, and it was like so scary, but I love it. You like being scared?
Trisha Paytas
Like, haunted house? Yeah, I love it.
Tana Mongeau
I didn't even go to the haunted houses. I would just go through the parks and be terrified. I want to pee my pants.
Trisha Paytas
It is like really scary. Like, I don't know, but I love it.
Tana Mongeau
Amazing. Seems insane.
Trisha Paytas
Like, it is kind of crazy, but it's also, I love ones where they don't touch you because then I get like, funny with it. Like, if they jump out at me, I'll like get like go back in their face and be like, okay, so.
Tana Mongeau
You'Re not that scared. I'm like, I will pee my pants if you touch me.
Trisha Paytas
It's. Yeah, no touching. The touching ones are sadistic people who like, oh, I don't want to be.
Tana Mongeau
Touched by even like, getting close to me. I don't like, like, I don't know. Literally Moses scares me in the one house. Like, I literally turn around the corner and if he's there, I'm like, ah. I'm like, I'm easily scared.
Trisha Paytas
But I like, like it when you're Submitting to it. Like, okay. I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
I can't get. I'm terrified of it. That's one thing. I'm terrified. But yeah. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. Maybe we'll carve a pumpkin. Like, I still. I just. I want to celebrate, but, like, not full out. I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, it's just, like, get, like, cheap Amazon costumes. That's what I'm saying.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I want to be a black cat. I've never been a black cat. I've never been a ghost with the sheets. I've never been, like, let's go classic. Let's go traditional sheets.
Tana Mongeau
So funny.
Trisha Paytas
But, yeah, I love it said I cannot. Because even, like, you're right about the memories. Like, us shooting Avatar was fun, but the 12 hours of preparation while also working, like, editing on a laptop. My video and, like, whatever. Like, it's just like, no.
Tana Mongeau
Even the one I have planned for us on this. I was just like, we've already said it. But I was already like, okay, outfits and then makeup. Okay, where's the set gonna be? Who's gonna shoot it? Which I think Carrie am. But I'm like, I'll do ask carrying now. Is it too far in advance? Like, there's so much, like, work and planning into it.
Trisha Paytas
Well, mind you, this Death becomes hers. What we're. It's like a prosthetic neck. It's a prosthetic hole.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. The whole.
Trisha Paytas
We're gonna. And I'm excited because it's. I'm excited to do, like, one. Like, honestly, maybe two with you. See, and then I know.
Tana Mongeau
I know I'm the same. I'm like. Because we're on such limited time, but I was like, I'm, like, obsessed. This is, like, my new musical that I love. It's a movie from the 80s, which I did watch, and I do appreciate, but I love, like, the musical. To me, I'm on that side of Tick Tock, and it's just like, I love it. This is. I told you. It's the reason we got these because, like, on the Broadway show, they have a leopard couch.
Trisha Paytas
I'm so excited to go, like, binge everything. Death becomes her. Because it's Trisha. I would say yes to being anything with her other than her subst idea.
Tana Mongeau
I love that. But, like, even to get, like, the whole prosthetics of the neck and the bullet, I was just like. Or like, the shotgun thing, I was like, it's so hard to find. I've been like, asking people over and over on my story, I'm like, who can do this?
Trisha Paytas
The neck definitely has to be prosthetic.
Tana Mongeau
I feel like the hole could be what someone said. Someone said they put a mirror there because I was like, I found a girl on Tick Tock who slayed it so hard, but she was booked on commissions. I was like, damn.
Trisha Paytas
Because I was like, everything's also two grand a thing for Halloween. I feel like, expensive.
Tana Mongeau
If you get like the sets, if you give like every. Everything is so expensive. So I like the idea.
Trisha Paytas
It's turning into this thing where like, everyone's doing it and then like, people are almost just like, yeah, these celebrities have money. Of course they can be this like, amazing thing. Like, I almost want to revert, like, genuinely. I might be a ghost with a sheet.
Tana Mongeau
Like, I love that.
Trisha Paytas
Or like, just even last year I like decided I wanted to be JoJo Siwa, like randomly. And I did the black makeup myself. And I. I was just at home and it was like, funny.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And I used to do like videos where I'd be like, random things. Oh, I remember.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Pennywise at home. Like, I think I'm gonna get more back into.
Tana Mongeau
Why?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, just back into where there's more fun and less like, pressure. Yeah. And just like the leading with money. Like, I know. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just. I. I don't need to do all that.
Tana Mongeau
No, I feel you. It is like, fun. I mean, it's like the only thing I spend money on. Like, I don't travel or anything. So I'm kind of like, oh, but that's so fair. But like my. Our family Halloween costume. I literally got Amazon. I was like, we're all Amazon this year.
Trisha Paytas
It's just like, that's. It's fine.
Tana Mongeau
They love it. Last year we were Amazon too. We did Frozen and I just got everything off Amazon and I was like, if it's on there. Yes.
Trisha Paytas
And that's cute. Like, and that's just fun. They show up, you put them on and you have a good time. I think that's where I'm at. I'm also just spending money on so much, like, where I need to. Like my consumerism, my consumption. I mean it. Mark my words. Like, I am just like trying to be.
Tana Mongeau
Well, we talked about that. We're like. Cuz someone had a cute bag. Maybe it was Meg. Yeah. She had like a Gucci bag. And I was like, pink. I was like, I need that bag. And Moses standing right behind me. And I was like, I don't need a new bag. And I was so real.
Trisha Paytas
When Nicole was there, it's like, yes.
Tana Mongeau
Is he behind me? I'm like, okay, well, I'll just tell story. Anyways, I was like, well, he hates when I get new bags. And I was telling Tana. I was like, literally, I have, like, so many in boxes. Never unbox. Like Louis Vuitton, like, Gucci. Like, stuff I'd never even unboxed. So we were talking about. Because we're trying to, like, not be so, like you said, materialistic consumerism, all that. I'm like, oh, we should just do, like, a bag swap.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, we're purse swap. How cute is that?
Tana Mongeau
That's so cute, right? Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
So sweet.
Tana Mongeau
Literally anything.
Trisha Paytas
We'll bring a purse and then. Or, like, we could send each other photos and then, like, actually, like, find the one that the other person likes. There's so fun.
Tana Mongeau
I have so many purses. Even, like, the Gucci one when you were here that day. I've had that purse for so long. It's still to tag in and everything. And, like, the fact that she said that, I was like, wait, I think I have that person.
Trisha Paytas
I love it. I love it. And I love.
Tana Mongeau
And I love that too, when you can find, like, a new bag. I love going on, like, rebag and all those things and finding, like, you know, a vintage bag.
Trisha Paytas
I've been from depop now, too. Like, not my account. I'm still selling, but I'm done buying. I'm about to do a Depop haul. And the amount of stuff. Stuff I've bought over the last few months because it's just Apple pay. And I just get in bed, and I hit the joint, and I'm like, I need these Manolo Blah. No, you don't. Yeah, they're teal.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
How often do you need a teal sandal heel, Tanner? No, I know.
Tana Mongeau
I don't. I don't. No, I was like that, too. Mine was like, TikTok shop. I was, like, weirdly getting, like, Dr. Pepper stuff. So I was literally getting, like, K pop, demon hunter, soda pop, Dr. Pepper, like, t shirt. And I was like, need that? Yes, yes, yes.
Trisha Paytas
You and I are actually the same. You guys. Jimmy's gonna it. Jimmy, I love you. There'll be a time stamp here. If you don't like, watching mukbang or chewing, skip to this time stamp. But.
Tana Mongeau
I was gonna do that.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, oh, my God.
Tana Mongeau
Wait, I know this is not mine, but what is this? Whose is this? I think I got a Chocolate. Look at that. Oh, my God. That's the. I know. We've. That looks delicious. You're so smart. Can you do that? I should get, like, a Dr. Pepper vanilla shake or something. Like, I wonder if they could do that. Or that's like. Or like a float. That's what I'm saying. Would they do it? Or I can see.
Trisha Paytas
We can do it.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, like, ask for the two cups and do it. Okay. DIY queen. You really are that. Where did I put. Why did I put my phone on the ground? I was gonna take a picture of all this.
Trisha Paytas
I was so excited, Trisha. Oh, my God. I know. It's just like, we're just eating burgers. Like, this is so iconic.
Tana Mongeau
Who. Who got the healthy burger?
Trisha Paytas
I got one healthy, one unhealthy.
Tana Mongeau
You got the. The lettuce. Me just showing the camera, but all falling it the way. Thank you for helping.
Trisha Paytas
Did you get a lettuce burger and. And a bun burger? Wait, I get everything in and out.
Tana Mongeau
Okay. This looks insane.
Trisha Paytas
My favorite thing about America is the gluttonous size of beverages. Look at this. Extra large iced tea. It's like.
Tana Mongeau
You look so pretty. Wow. Look how gorgeous you are. You're so sweet. Paris filter. It's not the first one anymore.
Trisha Paytas
I love Paris filter.
Tana Mongeau
It's now a second one. So that one I showed you was with the fade, and I was like.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, now in my brain, I look at my own self in the mirror when with the Paris filter, Like, I apply it in my brain, what's it.
Tana Mongeau
Gonna look like with the Paris filter?
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, my gosh. Okay.
Trisha Paytas
I love girlhood. Okay, because we're sitting here. We're sitting here in our little, like, matching sets. We're eating in and out. We're yapping about our lives. We're.
Tana Mongeau
It was like a fun vibe. Like, from the minute you got in, I was, like, panicked because I wasn't, like, ready yet. I love being ready for you. And then I was like, wait, but this is, like, a fun vibe. It was.
Trisha Paytas
I just got really excited because I'm like, I can't. I can't believe this is my job. Like, you get to eat and giggle with Trisha Paytas all day.
Tana Mongeau
I'm like, same. I just do that.
Trisha Paytas
Just like, thank you guys so much for watching us yap and making this a reality. Hey, guys.
Tana Mongeau
How did you eat yours?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, you were with your Trisha. Like, it's under my nails. It's in every crevice.
Tana Mongeau
I'm.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my gosh. This is so good. The epitome of class. Right here, her fork. She's like kneeling. I'm like sprawled out.
Tana Mongeau
Okay. The drinks at in and out, they burn. They burn your throat in the best way possible. I can grab for you all. Wow.
Trisha Paytas
I used to hate onions. And I can't believe I ever spent so much of my life being so on the wrong side of history.
Tana Mongeau
I never liked onions either. I'm still not like an onion person. Really? In pastas and stuff. I love onions, but not like fries or whatever.
Trisha Paytas
Like an onion and a mushroom lately. Just really get me going. Okay. I don't know how to use a straw. So there's that.
Tana Mongeau
That. What is that? That's even bigger. What size is that?
Trisha Paytas
Extra large.
Tana Mongeau
Extra large. Extra large. Like, I did not know there was extra. I would have got an extra extra large.
Trisha Paytas
Oh my God, the gluttony. This is. It's so. It doesn't fit in a cup holder. Like whenever I get this, I have to like sit with my decision cuz I have to ride home with it in my hand.
Tana Mongeau
You look teeny tiny, like, right? Did you get both?
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Tana Mongeau
I love that.
Trisha Paytas
I got both. I got two burgers. I got everything. I'm really happy. One of those moments.
Tana Mongeau
This is so fun. Today is fun. I don't know what it is. Today's like a different vibe. I don't know what it is about today. Today feels like a different vibe.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
Me too.
Trisha Paytas
I think it's the hanging out for an hour before.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, it did feel so real. And then like, also, you like doing Malibu's hair and makeup. It was so cute.
Trisha Paytas
I texted Makoa that I want a baby.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, my God.
Trisha Paytas
You'Re lying. You're lying. Wait, what happened? The prong of the fork. That means you have good teeth. I could never.
Tana Mongeau
I'm not using a fork for that anymore.
Trisha Paytas
I could never. That's so funny.
Tana Mongeau
I thought I was chewing it. It was just the crunchy fries. I got them all done, but I thought I was chewing this. Huh.
Trisha Paytas
I'm not gonna lie to you though.
Tana Mongeau
Like, sorry.
Trisha Paytas
Are you serious? No, that's a flex. Like, I would do anything to have teeth that could bite through. Oh.
Tana Mongeau
I just was like, oh, my God. What is in my mouth? One time on Tik Tok, I had a fake lip piercing and I was eating a cupcake and all of TikTok's like. You swallowed your lip piercing, like, went in with it. I never. I couldn't think about that again. I was like, oh my God. That's what I felt like was happening, happening right now.
Trisha Paytas
Isn't that weird how we can just.
Tana Mongeau
Swallow, like, things and be totally fine with it too? I know. It is wild.
Trisha Paytas
Like, that's been a big thing in Grey's Anatomy. People swallowing things that like, they shouldn't really.
Tana Mongeau
Like what? Or like a kid getting their Lego in his nose.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I just got a kid who ate like puzzle pieces or like all the toy pieces.
Tana Mongeau
All of it.
Trisha Paytas
That's like a thing though. Like, there's a cry for help though, right? Uh huh. Like, I think, think that that's a thing. Like people do that, like swallow, like household objects with certain mental health issues.
Tana Mongeau
I think, like a lot of people, a lot of kids too, in general just like.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
But yeah, mental health. That's interesting. You think they're crying for, like, attention that you're saying, like, you kind of did it so people would pay attention to him or what?
Trisha Paytas
Maybe. I don't. I mean, I don't want to like, go all Dr. Drew over here. I don't know why, but I know that people, like, do that. There's this movie called, I think it's called Swallow, where actually I'm making that up. But I don't know, it's like a housewife and her husband is like a husband. So she just starts swallowing marbles and paper clips and it's like a thriller movie to get his attention. And then she obviously takes it further and further and further.
Tana Mongeau
Does she survive?
Trisha Paytas
I don't remember. Why do I watch movies?
Tana Mongeau
I know I always want to know spoilers and people are like, you have to watch it. I'm like, did you watch it? Because I want to know how it ends. And actually, I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, do you like surprises in general? Like surprise parties?
Tana Mongeau
Parties.
Trisha Paytas
I don't either. Like, a surprise birthday party is my purgatory. Worst nightmare.
Tana Mongeau
I would be pissed. I would be so pissed. I'd be like, everyone go home. Like, what the hell?
Trisha Paytas
I would be so pissed at whoever decided that I would want that. It's like, you don't know me.
Tana Mongeau
Yes, I agree.
Trisha Paytas
I like for my outfit to like, really be my vibe.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, you'd have to, I guess you'd have to, like, trick you. Like, maybe I think of that comes close.
Trisha Paytas
That was a proposal.
Tana Mongeau
Proposal. And like, I knew it was coming, but I remember I always tell Moses, like, make sure I'm glam and like, someone captures it somehow, like a photo or something. So, like, it, Bless his heart. He Was like thinking, oh, she's glamming today. Like, this is the time to do it. I was gonna, you know I cosplay, right? So I had a cosplay for me and Moses. It was to be Jasmine and not Aladdin. He was gonna be Jafar because it's like the one where she's like, held captive by Jafar. She's in the red outfit. Yeah, love that scene. And obviously, and Moses hasn't seen the movie Aladdin, so he didn't know, like, what the hell Jafar meant. Like, he thought they were like a couple or something like that. So he was like, okay, she's gonna get glammed this day. Like, this will be the day to propose at the sand dunes. And Isaiah was there to take photos. So, like, in theory, he thought this is the time to do it. She had this photo shoot planned and I'm just gonna go ahead and make it like a moment to like, propose. Whatever kind of genius. Genius. But I'm in Jasmine cosplay. So I'm in this like red two piece outfit in the sand dunes with black hair, and I'm like, what did you think? What?
Trisha Paytas
I could paint that photo from memory. I know the, like. It's funny. You're explaining this and I'm like, yeah, Trisha, I've seen it. Oh, my God.
Tana Mongeau
No. Literally two days later, I had to be like, let's take photos again. Because, like. And I posted those because that was the proposal. But I wanted like, cute photos of us on the beach. So I was like, we're gonna do all white, go on the beach and like, retake these. Because I'm like, hindsight. It's very sweet. And I love that it was a surprise.
Trisha Paytas
I like the idea of like, not knowing about the proposal and then redoing the photos. Like, I think that's almost like, better. Because then you're like, genuinely like, I would hate to, like, know in the moment. Like, even if I am all glam and wearing all this things, I've given Mokoa such a specific list of what I want.
Tana Mongeau
Tell us. Cause I love when there's a list.
Trisha Paytas
Okay. I need Hunter or Maddie to shoot it.
Tana Mongeau
That's very important, actually, is to, like.
Trisha Paytas
Know what J Rod has to be there as well. Even if I just keep the video for myself, it has to be J Rod as well.
Tana Mongeau
Like, hiding.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, Because. And I just wouldn't. I would want the people to be like, my closest friends of people who do video and photo. Not like someone who, like, you know what I mean, like, hired. Yeah. Cause then it's like, even, like, I feel like seeing J Rod there, like, I'd cry. You know what I mean? Like, we've been through so much and film so much.
Tana Mongeau
That's actually important. Cause Isaiah's been there through all my life moments too. And I kind of was like, I like that you're here for this.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Actually, it's so true. Like a random. It just. That doesn't work out. Like. No. Fly them to wherever you are. I need a fresh blowout. Preferably a guy. Cory spray tan. That would be like my ideal. Isabella has to prompt me me on what to wear that day. Like, I told him, like, you can have his. Like, just don't let me leave the house without Isabella being like, yes, like, you should be wearing that.
Tana Mongeau
So you're gonna know your proposal. Basically.
Trisha Paytas
No. But Isabella's always telling me what to wear.
Tana Mongeau
Okay. Okay, got it.
Trisha Paytas
That's kind of. She's that friend where you call her and you're like, what do I wear? She's telling you, like, where this is placed Party. Such a stylist. What else? Nails cannot be, like, just need to be done or shouldn't be. Crazy. Crazy. I don't want to have spray tan hands, which is like a huge thing. Like, I need to be really.
Tana Mongeau
Like, I had spray tan hands. I was spray tanned. I was like, that was just the wrong everything. Yeah, I was too tan. My hands too. I hadn't. My hands were not done. I had just in a Sad Boy 2005 music video before, so I was playing like, Gerard Way. So I had like black, like red and black nails. And I was like, this is just an awful one to show, like your ring. But.
Trisha Paytas
But then you redid it.
Tana Mongeau
I did redo. With nails with press ons.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Because no matter what, even if you do know, I do think it's still a shock when it's happening. Have you been proposed to? Have you been engaged?
Trisha Paytas
Fake.
Tana Mongeau
Fake, but not real.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. That's surprising. I don't know why I feel like I thought you would have been like, at least engaged. It seems like very trendy to like it. I never got close to.
Trisha Paytas
I feel like almost now it's like, like less serious than it used to be. Like, I feel like now or maybe I'm just like getting old. I don't know. Like, I just feel like I keep seeing people just getting engaged and like, you know, I mean, when you know, you know, though, I'm like, so all for people, like, doing it. When they know and stuff. But I don't know. Like, I always took that very seriously.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I know what you mean. Cause it is. It is serious. I think it's, like, less serious. And obviously, like, marriage I was looking.
Trisha Paytas
For when I faked it. You know what I mean? But, like, that was still weird, though, because it's like, it's still like. I don't know. Obviously. I always talk about how that was such a mind because it's like this person's on an E. I'm saying yes. I'm like, you know, doing all these things.
Tana Mongeau
But you knew that proposal coming.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. And it was a ring Vidcon. No Vegas ring pop.
Tana Mongeau
He splurged back then. He was still making money.
Trisha Paytas
He had to switched. We switched it, like, to eventually get the real ring.
Tana Mongeau
Sponsored. Did they give you a free one?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know what he did. I know it was a $300,000 ring, and it was sickening, and all I wanted to do was, like, steal it.
Tana Mongeau
Did you get to keep it?
Trisha Paytas
No.
Tana Mongeau
Did he get to keep it?
Trisha Paytas
I don't think so.
Tana Mongeau
I love. I think it's a flex when now.
Trisha Paytas
He just has the money to keep it.
Tana Mongeau
Right back then you had to give it because there are, I think, Michaela the Tiktoker. I don't know how to say her last name. It's like Naguero. I just don't have to say it. She got her, like, a company to send her, like, a free diamond ring, and I was like, I would take it, too.
Trisha Paytas
Both make sense. Yeah. Like, if a company sending you a free diamond ring, why would you not want to do that? I would, like, I don't know. But I am very sentimental. Like, I want.
Tana Mongeau
What if McCo is offered, like, a free diamond ring to propose to you?
Trisha Paytas
Take that 100%. Take that. Like, what?
Tana Mongeau
You know what I mean?
Trisha Paytas
Because then that's like. Like, a lot of money to use towards our future. You know what I mean? That's, like, saved. Like, it's just, like, intelligent to do that. But, like, Makoa could propose with, like, a piece of grass, and I would say yes. You know, that's actually so cute.
Tana Mongeau
I know. I think it was most gagged that he remembered the ring I wanted, because my ring is model. I'm not even wearing it.
Trisha Paytas
My ring was modeled.
Tana Mongeau
I always wear it for, like, podcasts because I, like, love it. It's such a flex. But I, like, I never wear it out. But I showed him it, like, one time. It was modeled after Tracy Bingham, she had a ring in like the early 2000s from like a billionaire. And obviously hers is probably like Cartier. Ours was like, I always also recommend always getting like a wholesale diamond if you care about that kind of stuff. Like, because Cartier is so expensive because of the clarity and the name and everything. But if you go to like downtown to like the diamond district, like, you can get a really big diamond thing. Yeah. And it's good for literally a tenth of the cost anyways. I was so good because also Moses is like, not a spender. He's never spent money. He's like, that was the most expensive thing I ever bought besides, like his house that he had when I met him. So. And that was the other reason he got it the day we were supposed to do that photo shoot. So he also was just. Just like, I wanted to wait. Cuz it was around Christmas time, was like a week away from Christmas. He's like, I wanted to wait until Christmas. He goes, but I was so excited when I got it. He's like, I just wanted to propose right away.
Trisha Paytas
So I don't want men sit with like the ring and like, don't.
Tana Mongeau
I know, like not tell you or not or not propose right away. I'd be like, I want to give this. He's like that with Christmas too. He'll get me like my present early. Like a week early. He's like, I just want to give it to you now. And it's like, okay. Like, yeah, Like, I would rather like, wear it. That's so sweet. Yeah, it's so. I think proposals are.
Trisha Paytas
I love Moses.
Tana Mongeau
I tell everyone, everyone. Because I think you're going back earlier where I say you take it very seriously. And I agree, like, it is a serious thing, obviously, but it's also like not that serious at the end of the day because it's like you're not legally married. You know what I mean? It's not like a commitment. It's committed. But I always say the engagement part was my favorite because the proposal's so fun. You get to wear a ring. You, like, are committed to each other, you know, I think I like the wedding. It was just stressful. It's stressful. It's a lot of money. It's whatever. And then you get married and it's like, like, okay. It's just how we were when we were engaged and how we were when we were dating. Like, it doesn't change that much. So I love the engagement and I always just tell people, even couples who like, can't decide if they want to be married or not. If one of them does, one of them does it. I'm like, just get engaged. Because then you get the ring and you get to be bougie, and you could be like, this is my fiance. And, you know, like, I love that.
Trisha Paytas
I'm, like, really realizing that, like, hello. Sorry. The type of wedding that I want is, like, very intimate. Like, I want something intimate and, like, almost like Hawaii. Like, everyone's barefoot. It, like, you know what I mean? Like, we're, like, on a cute cliff or, like, on a cute beach or something. Like, just, like, more fun. Because it's like, even at these, like, even at the chart event, you're saying, like, it's like your wedding. It's like your birthday when there is so many people. You're taking photos all night. You're, like, doing that the whole time. Like, it becomes so much about the other people's experience. And, like, I want to feel like I spent my wedding day, like, vibing with makoa.
Tana Mongeau
Like, you know, then you. You wouldn't be able to do that at a big, like, event wedding, which is, like, it is cute, like, pictures and you're an influencer, and, like, the content of it all is, like, great. But, yeah, it turns into even. Ours was, like, a meet and greet. We literally stood at our table and people lined up to talk to us, obviously our friends and family. But everyone just wants to make sure they see you.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
And we didn't get one. One minute to eat food. We didn't get to eat the cake.
Trisha Paytas
I've been to so many weddings like that. Like, so the majority of weddings I've been to or that. And I'm like, I don't want that. Like, I hope it rains. I want everyone's, like, to get up. Like, I want to, like, dance in the rain.
Tana Mongeau
Our Maui wedding did get rained on. It was New Year's Eve, and I remember it got rained on, but I was like, it's kind of everything. We only had 10 people. And that. That one was the best because you got to eat the food. We got to enjoy it. It was literally us, my mom, my dad, and, like, the glam here and their spouses. And I was like, this is fun.
Trisha Paytas
No, that's so that's, like, actually the whole.
Tana Mongeau
It was really fun. And I feel like your circle of friends, too, is, like, Would be, like, the best in, like.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And just like, oh, my God, I can't wait for everyone's, like, speeches. I always think about that Like, Amari's speech is gonna be so funny. Like, just so funny. Trevi, too, she's so talented. Like, everyone. I'm just so, so excited.
Tana Mongeau
I was gonna say who is. You can choose for, like, the best man.
Trisha Paytas
I think that I want to be so untraditional about everything. Like, I don't know, you know, because, like, I, like.
Tana Mongeau
Like a maid of honor.
Trisha Paytas
I value, like, so many people at an equal level, which is the biggest blessing absolutely ever. Like, Amari, Ashley, and Isabella, like, they're my whole wide world. They are all my family. Like, I don't know if I could. I mean, Amari, obviously, like, our story. We are, like, siblings. It makes perfect sense. Like, it does. So, like, I don't. I don't know. Probably Amari.
Tana Mongeau
And they'd all be like, your bridesmaids.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Tana Mongeau
But I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I. I love when people. Like, I see this. I'm on that side of TikTok a lot where people talk about the untraditional things they do at their wedding.
Tana Mongeau
I love those, too.
Trisha Paytas
And I, like, love that because it's like, if you think about it, it's all, like. Even, like, I saw someone the other day on this whole tangent about, like, how the father walking the bride down the aisle is, like, rooted in misogyny. Like, you know what I mean? It's rooted in, like, I'm giving. Giving the. I'm giving my daughter away to, like, another man. Like, you know what I mean? Her. And I never thought about it like that. And, like, I don't know, like, even, like, things like that, I'm just. Like, I'd be so fine if I did something with, like, Amari's parents that was just, like, cute. That was ceremonial, but was, like, different.
Tana Mongeau
Like, I don't know. Yeah, that is so true. I thought about that with our wedding, too. Like, I'm close with my dad now, but I never was as a kid or a teenager. Like, we just fought all the time. Like, I. Like, I was awful, like, for so long. We were. And I had him, like, walk me down the aisle. I had him give a speech. We did the father daughter dance. And, like, my mom didn't get any part of it, and she, like, was the one who raised me, and I just. And I remember. I think that's my biggest regret. It's like, I probably wish I would have had both of them walk me down the aisle because my mom was the person to, like, support me when I moved to Hollywood and support my dreams and, like, raised me so I.
Trisha Paytas
Was like, I'm chills. It's crazy.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. So I agree. That's.
Trisha Paytas
But I think that that's like a new thing is people breaking those. Like it's very new. Like seeing that the untraditional wedding up at all. Even like the one flower child. Like I'm having Aquaman, Elvis, Malibu, every child I love. Like, I want baby too.
Tana Mongeau
Maybe.
Trisha Paytas
I know at this point I kind of love.
Tana Mongeau
I'm not going to lie. Like I kind of love when there's like their own child is like their maid of honor. Cuz we have like my nieces and nephews. But now I'm like, man, I wish I would have had my kids.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Be that. I know, it is so cute. And then they can like remember it if they're young enough and be in the photos.
Tana Mongeau
Like that's so cool. I want to do a vow renewal. We're only married five years next year. But I'm, I'm like, I want go to Disneyland because that's where I wanted my wedding. Oh my God, I wanted a Disneyland wedding so bad. But I talked about it with an ex boyfriend and so we talked about it so much. I was like, oh, I can't have that with Moses. But honestly, I wish I would have cuz like yeah, it would have been way cheaper. I love Disneyland. So I think like next year that's really cute to have like a Disneyland and you get to do it at midnight. Like they close the parks down at like midnight and you get to have like your wedding in front of the castle. It's like so fun.
Trisha Paytas
So I really want chills again. That's actually really cute. I didn't know it was going to be empty.
Tana Mongeau
Yes. Yes. Empty. No. Right? And it's like. And they open up Main Street. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And with your kids it's almost better. It's so funny how everything happens for a reason. Because it's almost better that you'll now get to do that with your kids and like Malibu will remember that.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. So anyone who has kids at their wedding, like I see that side of tick tock too. It's like, I don't know. I would like to be traditional where I have the kids after the wedding and stuff like that. I'm like, no, it's actually so cool to have like your kids at your wedding. You know what I mean?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I just think that if you really think about the whole like wedding ceremony thing, like it is. You just like to have your kids.
Tana Mongeau
There is like, well, but a lot.
Trisha Paytas
Of things are Antiquated though, you know, like doing things differently is cool.
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I also, I'm like for the people who to who want no kids at their weddings. Cuz I've seen the side of Tik Tok where kids will like ruin the first dance. Like their kids will. It's not even their kids. It'll be like a guest kids. Because guests will be like, my kids should be able to come with me or whatever. I'm fully in support of people having no kids at their wedding.
Trisha Paytas
Oh my God. Mine's gonna be based on vibes. Like vibe check. Like Malibu can come, Elvis can come, Aquaman can come. But like I know people with certain kids that like cannot come.
Tana Mongeau
Aren't you a godparent to another child so they can come?
Trisha Paytas
I mean, yes, Ms. Kim Kiki. She's like, she's in seventh grade now, which is so crazy.
Tana Mongeau
Crazy. Isn't that crazy to see kids like grow up. Like it is.
Trisha Paytas
Watch her completely grow up. And it's so funny because I was talking to her the other day on the phone, just giving her advice and I feel like seventh grade for me at least like the way I remember it, it was like the time of your life where you're like not little widdle anymore. Like you're like pre your own thoughts. And like that's when like I started liking boys. And like you're introduced to like and alcohol and like girl fights become so mean. Like people's hormones, cattiness. It's like when you start to really. It's so, it's like so hard. I was just telling her like girl, stick it through. Like she like you got this girl.
Tana Mongeau
That, that is so scary. Actually that part I'm like, I had to think all the way to through like having a kid in middle school.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it's so crazy. And she was saying that she hated math and I was telling her it's okay, just only do 50 of your work. And then everyone yelled at me because they said 50 is still an F. And I was like, right, I think.
Tana Mongeau
You need 65 to get a D. Yes, 100.
Trisha Paytas
So I was giving her a God awful advice, honestly.
Tana Mongeau
Well, I know by the time like Malibu's in school, I know a lot of people are like, it could be just totally all online, you know, like school could be a totally different thing than it is now. Which I don't know if that's good or bad, honestly. But yeah, I guess we'll see what happens in that future.
Trisha Paytas
But the guy who created Chat GPT was saying that on the Ovon's podcast that he doesn't like always see school being what it's always been.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I think it'll change drastically just because like the world changing drastically. Like online stuff is like everything's online now and everything. So we're moving up. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
I don't know. Oh, are you really? You barely ate your food.
Trisha Paytas
I finished the. I don't know if it's the hot peppers.
Tana Mongeau
So it's making me feel, you know, to go potty.
Trisha Paytas
I mean, I love you. I go bathroom.
Tana Mongeau
I mean.
Trisha Paytas
No, Trisha is actually my mommy. Like anytime I say anything's wrong, I wish people could see it cuz a lot of times it's off camera. But I'll be like, my head hurts. And you're like, what do you need? Do you want to take a break? Do you want to lay down? Do you want Advil? Do you want whatever. And I'm like, no, no.
Tana Mongeau
Helps.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. You're so sweet, though. Like, I'm like, no, I can work through this. You're like, are you sure? Like, you're very. I've, like, just always.
Tana Mongeau
No, I worry. Yeah, I always worry, and it does. I know. When I came into your event, I was like, wow, I feel like it's like one of my daughters. Like, it's so. It's so crazy. Even though, like, I guess I could have had you at 10. I think I had my period at 10. I guess technically I could have. Wouldn't that be crazy?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it feels like you had me at 10. Like, that's. That's the goal. Oh, my God.
Tana Mongeau
Okay. Literally, go to the bathroom if you need to or do whatever you need to.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, we're back. The in and out immediately went through me.
Tana Mongeau
But do you think it's this or you think what you had yesterday?
Trisha Paytas
Probably yesterday.
Tana Mongeau
And let me tell you, I always had with a bathroom after I eat, like a big meal or something like that. Or, like, I, you know, whatever. And Moses will always tell me it. It takes 24 hours to digest. So maybe whatever it was 24 hours ago that you ate.
Trisha Paytas
You're 100, right? It's definitely that. But I was just making this tick tock in the bathroom about how embarrassing it is to, like, have to go bubble at Trisha Paytas's house. Like, and then, like, obviously, like, you know, because I'm like, oh, my God. And then I run.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And then I'm in there for, like. Like 15 minutes, and then I come back out and it's like, hey. Hey, how y' all doing? Everyone's waiting on you. And I always, like, I'm thinking about how this is the equivalent of, like, a nightmare. Like, you know when you, like, dream that you're, like, naked on a stage in front of people? Like, it's like a dream. It's like I had to go blow up Trisha's bathroom.
Tana Mongeau
There's candles and stuff in there. You can, like, light. You can light and just keep it open because we're down here. If you wanted to, you're right.
Trisha Paytas
But, like, just still, it's not my dream scenario.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, well, at least you're, like, comfortable with that kind of stuff. Like, I'm so uncomfortable comfortable with it. So I think it was, like, one of the. No, it wasn't the first. But like, a couple months ago, I remember I was upstairs. I kept having to go because it was like, you know, sometimes it's like, you Go. And you're there for 20 minutes. Okay, guys, I'm fine. Yeah, like literally two minutes later, like, I'm so sorry, I gotta go. Again, like, yes, at least I also have been there doing that during this time. And it is, I know it's so funny to say shout out. Jimmy, the editor, our editor, he's like, he'll like, he, he stays to like, listen because he's like, well, just in case, like when you come back or something like that. So you just like stay and like listen to everything. He's like, because I'm waiting for you to come back in. And I was like, oh my God, that's like so funny.
Trisha Paytas
I love him so much.
Tana Mongeau
I know. He's like, so you know, he's like there. He's in the room with us when it happens.
Trisha Paytas
Like. And I think even just having a podcast with someone, you get closer because you're spending like. I mean, I've talked about it before. Like I myself on canceled one time, like through my pants. It was the worst day of my life. Actual or just like a little like. No, no, no, no.
Tana Mongeau
Why did you go to the bathroom?
Trisha Paytas
I did. I know, okay.
Tana Mongeau
You were there.
Trisha Paytas
I thought it was a toot and it wasn't.
Tana Mongeau
And that's never happened to me.
Trisha Paytas
And I was always the person, I was always the person who like makes fun of adults themselves, which is bad. And I know that now. And I got my karma. And I was like, how? Just clench. Like, how do people go through this at their age? And then they're at my big old age on camp. Like it's so. I guess it just happens. But there's something natural, there's something about being here and because there's also. It's funny, there's photos of you in the bathroom where you look so glam and so good. And I'll be sitting there and I'm like. And then I'm just staring at you in full glam.
Tana Mongeau
Guys, they have to like stand up so they're just like looking at a face of me. And it's like, it's so funny. Everyone comments on that. I always think it's like, I think it's camp. I always had pictures of me around the house. I never think anything of it. Like, I'm just like, like, I wonder if Malibu will grow up one day and just like have pictures of herself around the house. Cuz like that's what you do, get pictures of yourself around the house.
Trisha Paytas
I never thought about that, but I love it. I think it's I think Paris Hilton really, like, made that super cool. And, like, people like that, like, icons do that. And it's almost like that's yet another way that you've manifested the way that you're an icon. Because you've always done that. You've always, like, done the shoots and framed them around the house and stuff.
Tana Mongeau
Because, well, you do so many shoots too. It's like, don't you think, like, you want. It's a waste to just do it. And you are on Instagram. It's art. Like, you should, like, frame it and put it in your house.
Trisha Paytas
You're so right. I'm gonna. I realized that with my tarte shoot that I want to frame there because there's ones of me on the toilet, and I'm like, I'm gonna put that in my bathroom.
Tana Mongeau
That's so cute. You've worn it on a toilet. I didn't see that one.
Trisha Paytas
I'll show you. Wait.
Tana Mongeau
I had one on a toilet too, one year.
Trisha Paytas
It's kind of. It's like, weirdly, Cam. But the toilet ended up being my favorite photo.
Tana Mongeau
Is it the same? Because I have one. I had one in my bathroom in my old house, and it was the same. What'd you type in? So good. So good.
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Tana Mongeau
That is. Wait, why did I see that one? Are you holding your lip gloss?
Trisha Paytas
Yes, and I'm applying it while I pee. I love that.
Tana Mongeau
So you're like.
Trisha Paytas
And our Pamela. We had to include Pamela in the show. Oh, my God.
Tana Mongeau
With the Playboy cover, too. I love a toilet shoe. I'm not gonna lie. I have one on the toilet. It's kind of. I don't even know how I find it. Like, Trish Peter's toilet.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Or you could maybe go in your photos and search toilet. Have you ever tried that? You know you can do that. Does it work if you search like bra, it will like give you every photo of you with boobs. Like, I'm like, how weird.
Tana Mongeau
I have this one. I have a couple on the toilet. There's this one. I don't know what I was thinking with that one.
Trisha Paytas
No, that's so 2000s sleaze.
Tana Mongeau
I think I was thinking to put it in my bathroom. I think I wanted art in my bathroom. I was like, let me.
Trisha Paytas
And the big hair.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, that was. I think, what is it?
Trisha Paytas
That's so iconic. She's always been.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, yeah, that's the one that comes up. Oh, yeah, that's. There's. Oh, so this is it. So this is like the Marilyn behind me. But I wanted to replace the Marilyn picture with me pictures. Yes. And I think that's what I did at one of mine. But it actually. Oh, yeah, I did it all around my house. I did a photo shoot everywhere so I could put it up in my house.
Trisha Paytas
That's like on the couch, so damp.
Tana Mongeau
Like in the bed. Just.
Trisha Paytas
I love you.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, yeah, here it is. There's another one too. So it's just like toilet paper everywhere.
Trisha Paytas
You look so hot. I mean, that's heavy. But I love me.
Tana Mongeau
I love a photo. A photo shoot. Like this one. Like what it. This is a big pizza. That's why I love taking pictures too. Because I was kind of like back then, I was like, damn, I wish my body look like that now. But I thought I was like so fat back then. And now you look like, oh, damn, I was hot at one point.
Trisha Paytas
That is. That is life. Like, oh my God. Do you ever think about that? Like, I think back at all the times in my life where I thought I looked so ugly or so this or so just like so many things. And then you're like, oh my God, girl. Like, that's. That's your 20s. Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
You know, just constantly like, yeah, I thought it was so fat. And I look back like, oh my God, I was so tiny.
Trisha Paytas
Like, yeah, it's just like the dysmorphia is rampant.
Tana Mongeau
I would say your glow up is so real though. Like, not just like outer. You obviously were so cute as like a kid too. But you do look so different. But I think it's also just like happiness.
Trisha Paytas
I think substances is also Real like, you don't realize how much. Especially alcohol, like, makes you puffy. Like, I'll look back at photos of my face and it has nothing to do with, like, my weight even. It's like I looked like a chipmunk storing food. Like, storing nuts for the winter. Like, and it was just because of how much I was. I was drinking. Like, made me and my nine sets of teeth. That also has nine sets of teeth. Not nine, but, like, four.
Tana Mongeau
What does that mean? Different veneers?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, like, different veneers to make your face different. Like, because, like, bigger ones will make you like, you know, that is true.
Tana Mongeau
It changes. I remember when Hillary, I don't know if she got him, but I remember there was a period where her teeth looked bigger. But maybe she lost weight, so maybe it wasn't. But I just remember being like, oh, my God. Changed her appearance so much. I love how they're icons. So, like, no matter what she does. But I remember, yeah, that changes so much. And Nicole too. You got veneers and she looked so.
Trisha Paytas
Miley's like, people, really. I'm like, people are very passionate about Miley's old teeth and that she should have, like, not done it. But I'm like, I hate, like, doing that. Like, being on that. Like, whatever someone wants that makes them happy. Like, and no one wants to hear.
Tana Mongeau
Like, you looked better before. You should have kept that.
Trisha Paytas
Like, oh, my God, I've been on this side of Tik Tok lately. And if you're making these videos, like, I line up, I hate you. Do you know how cruel this is for my mental health? And after everything with the go brunette, it's so I'm on this side of TikTok where people are trying to convince me to get a bleach and tone again, like, saying that the rooted is not as good and to go get a bleach and tone. I'm like, that is cruel.
Tana Mongeau
They're trying to sabotage you. Don't listen.
Trisha Paytas
Do you know everything I've been through to get here? My hair is more than 2 inches for the first time in my life.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, you're like.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I don't give a. Honestly, I miss it too sometimes. Like, the blonde sickness, that's one of those ones that's, like, dormant, you know? Like, you say you're over it, but then you'll see that one good video of you with just a fresh bleach and tone. And it's like, it's also your brand.
Tana Mongeau
Like, bleach and tone. You, like, made that Even hearing you say that now, it is one of those things where it's like, I can't believe she's saying this. You know, like that's in your voice. Like, you know, because it is such an iconic thing and you're like, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Oh. And now I can't even get them because they made me blonde.
Tana Mongeau
No, same. I loved being blonde too. And even wigs, I used to like, I used to hate wigs. I'm like, don't put a wig on me. And now that's all I do because I just want my hair to like be healthy and grow. When I don't have a glam squad with me, that's.
Trisha Paytas
That's a big frontal lobe for me. It's like, I don't want to be Mr. Clean and Platinum.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I love. Not yet.
Tana Mongeau
One day maybe. But I also think because you're so in Maui and so that it's also like. Yeah, it dries out your hair. And don't you want it just to be like natural and flowing and have oils get through it? Yes. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And like even going there like in the beginning, like being who I used to be, like, I'd have a full lily lash on and a bleach and tone and like a fake tan and it's just like I would look around and see all these girls just like embracing their natural beauty. And I was like, it really did like convert me into wanting to do that. And moa, like just he like genuinely like even right now I have my extensions out, so I have a bob. And like see, it's.
Tana Mongeau
Did you just put it up? Did you have it down earlier?
Trisha Paytas
No, it's been up. It's been up. I can show you.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, I would love to see.
Trisha Paytas
I am. I'm not Bob.
Tana Mongeau
Bob.
Trisha Paytas
That is not me.
Tana Mongeau
Is it a bob? Cuz it looks pretty long, your hair.
Trisha Paytas
No, let me.
Tana Mongeau
Damn.
Trisha Paytas
There is one little baby T right here.
Tana Mongeau
Here.
Trisha Paytas
And which I'm taking out tomorrow. So then I'm about to be really bobbed out and then there's one clip in to make the bun full.
Tana Mongeau
I was gonna say, your hair looks so thick and beautiful.
Trisha Paytas
Oh my gosh.
Tana Mongeau
It's amazing. But I love your embracing, even the no lashes. I love seeing your eyes like it is so like you said it is. It makes everyone look younger, I think.
Trisha Paytas
Like when they wear the maintenance. Like I think that like I really convinced myself that I had to like uphold this like insane look all the time. And it almost makes it better because then when you really, really like, get the full glam in the hair and you're, like, mogging. Like, the difference is more fun versus, like, I need to look like this all the time.
Tana Mongeau
Right? No, I love just getting glam because it feels like a character. It feels like a performance. It feels drag. Yes. And then, like, just being yourself the other time is also, like, nice, too.
Trisha Paytas
It's like a. Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
It's like an alter ego.
Trisha Paytas
And, like, I want hair. I just don't. I don't want to be a baldy. I don't want to rely on these, like, 50 billion tape ins in my head.
Tana Mongeau
It's just not comfortable too. I think I have, like, two clippings in my hair right now, and I'm like, I do just, like, having the natural hair of it all.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. It's so nice. But do you find. I find that mine, like, this is the first time in my life where I'm even, like, remotely trying to style my little bob and, like, do slick backs and, like, curl it and, like, whatever. And it is so much harder, which is funny because it's not like it's. It's easier. But all I've ever known is styling, like, 500 extensions because it's just, like, kind of there.
Tana Mongeau
And so you just kind of have to, like, flat iron it or whatever you gotta do and brush it. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. And I know the ways that it can, like, go, like, you can't, like, move it in a million directions. Like, having natural hair and trying to style it. It's so. I tried sock curls the other day, and I looked like. I looked like George Washington.
Tana Mongeau
Wait, is it the one where it's, like, heatless? It's like, one big one.
Trisha Paytas
Yes, but look, Trisha first.
Tana Mongeau
I love George Washington. He is a slave.
Trisha Paytas
I was giving Founding Father Hamilton, like, wait, no, look at that.
Tana Mongeau
Did I not see this?
Trisha Paytas
You're wearing the shirt, too.
Tana Mongeau
I love it. Okay, wait. You look so cute. How did it turn out?
Trisha Paytas
That's how it turned out, Trisha.
Tana Mongeau
That's it.
Trisha Paytas
That's the final. That's the final.
Tana Mongeau
I love you. I take. You have to, like, approve photos Facetune. You're, like, showing yourself like that. But let me see the photo first. I'm like, what do you mean?
Trisha Paytas
Because I was teaching Meg how to face up the other day for my. For my of, and I was like, why is it that on Instagram and of, I want to be, like, my hottest self, and then I'm on TikTok, genuinely looking like, like Theodore Roosevelt, but.
Tana Mongeau
It'S yeah, the hair was like. And honestly, like, it's kind of. I kind of love it.
Trisha Paytas
I think that I need to. I've been like, debating this. I need to take. Make my Instagram presence like, the way that the rest of my socials are. Like, no more Facetune. Like, I need to like, just start posting, like, real raw.
Tana Mongeau
I love the real raw. Like, I. I'm. I'm like you. I like. I like a photo. I like a touched photo too. But then I do love posting like a half eaten burger or something. And then just like my face, like half in the shot or something. I think that's like what the cool kids are doing. I see a lot of people do those and I'm like, I think it's cool. Or like, you know, you start off the. Which is like the dump with just like, you know, an in and out, like, can, and the next one is like, you fault, like beat or something.
Trisha Paytas
It's. No, it's. It's so real though. I like, even for my tarte shoot, I hired Ashley, Isabella and Meg and me, and we're all sitting there editing these photos. It took like, like days and days.
Tana Mongeau
That's wild.
Trisha Paytas
I was face tuning my foot for like an hour in one of the photos. I'm not joking. I didn't know that feet get old.
Tana Mongeau
Get old.
Trisha Paytas
My feet are like, so old. Like, I need foot talk. I need toe talks.
Tana Mongeau
Wait, what do you mean? I don't understand.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I just have foot wrinkles that, like, I didn't used to have. It's a real thing, Trisha. I swear. They're like, veiny. Like, it's so substance. I'm like, is this from the Manjaro? It's not.
Tana Mongeau
Maybe. I feel like the Manjaro, like, again, love it, like, for everybody, but maybe it does make it a little.
Trisha Paytas
I do not love it for everybody. You know me. It's. It's my toxic boyfriend. Like, I just.
Tana Mongeau
I'm like, ready almost to get on it. I've been like, working my butt up even this morning. I told you I did Pilates. I went for a two mile walk with Moses, grapefruit and eggs, like everybody chance I get and I'm like, yes, I feel better. But I'm like, when is this, like, weight coming? I'm like, honestly, give me that Manjaro.
Trisha Paytas
No, I don't know though, because you know what I think you'd hate the most is like the genuine fatigue.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, you feel like you having the energy to go on this walk and do that. Like, it's so much better. I want nothing but that for myself.
Tana Mongeau
Okay. You keep de influencing me, which is good because everyone else around me is.
Trisha Paytas
Like, such a level of hypocrisy because I'm on it and de influencing other people. And I keep saying that. It's like I'm on this thing telling everyone not to eat. Get it? And that's so weird. I'm in the head. I don't even have anything else.
Tana Mongeau
I get it. I get it. There's, like, certain things. Yeah. I feel the same way. Like, I've got surgery and I'm like, don't get past surgery.
Trisha Paytas
I guess it's like, I just can't stress enough that it's a quick fix. And if you're. If that's what you're looking for and that's what you want, do it.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But you will feel the, like, the substance, like, isn't too far off in my opinion. Like, I really, like, sometimes I, like, I'm in the office and I'm just, like, seeing other people there, and I'm, like, doing it, and then I'm leaving and I, like, feel like a little. And I'm like, I. Prettiest girl injects me. She's so beautiful. She's like the most stunning person I've ever seen. And it almost makes it creepier because then I'm in this, like, all white office, and she's so beautiful. And she's injecting me every time.
Tana Mongeau
Here you go. Skinny forever.
Trisha Paytas
And I'm like. And she's like, I'm on it, too. I swear to God, I feel like.
Tana Mongeau
You'Ll actually love full circle. You have to watch that becomes her. Because that's literally what's it about. Like, they go get this potion that you're young forever. And the girl giving it is like, guess my age. And she's like, 35, and she had 27. And then she's like, I am 89 years old. And she's like, just, like, beautiful and, like, naked. And everyone in the house is, like, beautiful.
Trisha Paytas
I'm watching it tonight.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. And then they get this potion. They spend all their money and they get this potion. And to be young forever, and then.
Trisha Paytas
It probably ends horribly. And that's like, literally.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And like.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Forever start cracking.
Trisha Paytas
Don't tell me. I want to know. Well, I can guess. I can assume that the message is, I mean, mean, and death becomes her. It's kind of in the name.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
You know, but I'm excited.
Tana Mongeau
Spoiling it already be like, that's crazy. I love a spoiler, but I'm excited.
Trisha Paytas
I want to watch it tonight because.
Tana Mongeau
That is kind of like, what it is, all of it. I've been wanting to be beautiful and skinny. I just want to be healthy.
Trisha Paytas
So I thought, well, exercise should be the only desire. And, like, I mean, I love to.
Tana Mongeau
Be skinny, too, but honestly, too, like, sometimes you're just like. Maybe it's just, like, not in the cards for me. Maybe I'm just, like, holding it out for the child.
Trisha Paytas
Being healthy. You're so funny. Being healthy is, like, so much more of a flex. Like, you see it so much in la, the girls who are just skinny and, like, dying and, like, I don't know I'm dying.
Tana Mongeau
It's crazy.
Trisha Paytas
Like, we're just feeling like.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, like.
Trisha Paytas
Like, like feeling like. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I. I'm trying to just, like, rework my brain. I talked to you about it on just Trish, but, you know, like, with food and with all of the things that are wrong with me.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I want people to know. It's like, this is wrong with me. I'm not saying, like, I'm right for shooting up Manjaro.
Tana Mongeau
Like, it is like, a sickness, but, hey, you know, that's. That's the world we live in.
Trisha Paytas
I know, but societal standards, skinny, I want to change.
Tana Mongeau
It makes me sad, though. That is, like, people like you that are just, like, thin girls, like, want to be skinnier because you're just, like, what do you mean? You're so skinny. But I understand.
Trisha Paytas
No, but it is so. Because I'll look back at times where I, like, hated myself so much and be like, you looked amazing. Like, you know what I mean? And it's like, you didn't. I don't know. I think a lot of that comes with, like, a lot of my formative years, maybe being in the spotlight and, like, having people talk about how I looked for so long that some of it just, like, living that way sticks with you. You know what I mean? Knowing, like, oh, I remember.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Like, not even that long ago, like, there were some people that were, like. Like, making fun of, like, your appearance. And I just remember being like. And, like, weight specifically, and being like, you're so small. Like, it's actually insane how effed up if someone's making fun of you being fat. It's like, other girls are gonna be like, she's so tiny.
Trisha Paytas
What I was gonna say is, like, I always think that I like, like I've, I came out the gate scandalous. So I've had people say everything you can possibly imagine under the sun about me. That's awful. So I've built a very thick skin. But I always, like, even like I always talk about this with the Cody Co thing or just other things. I get so defensive when I see people say things like that or just other things because it's like, what if this was about some girl who like, couldn't handle it? Not that I like, should be the girl who can handle it. Like, it's not fair, but like, like, I don't know, I just always think about it like that. And then I guess some things do just like, because I noticed that, like when I look at myself in the mirror and I think about my perception, I do love myself. But then I find myself thinking about the public's perception of me and people's perception and that's almost what will like, get me down a rabbit hole.
Tana Mongeau
I feel this exact same. I feel like, oh, I'm looking so good. But then, yeah, like someone I work out with or something will be like, oh, you know, Manjaro does work for people. And another person be like, it is meant for bigger people. Like, and then I'm like, maybe I should just be on it. Even though, like, I really don't want to and I'm really happy and I'm of feel like I have a good relationship with food. And I'm like.
Trisha Paytas
And that's like, no, the healthy is the flex.
Tana Mongeau
But I know what you mean. And then it's just like, well, damn, everyone's on it. Maybe I just should, I don't know. And I can't.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I'm sitting here, you know, Like, I, I, it's hard. I think everyone should make the decisions they want to make. But at the same time, I am trying to be so transparent about the fact that I'm trying to unlearn so many things, beauty standard wise that have been like, so societally drilled into my brain, you know, like, yeah, I think.
Tana Mongeau
It'S gonna be there forever. I think it's dormant forever for us.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, like, it' so like I was, see, I saw this thing and I keep talking about it, but like, how like our brains get hits of dopamine when we see people that look alike, like, see people that look the same. Like, like hit the beauty standard, like, and then we're looking for that and attaining that. Like, we are literally chemically trained societally to like, feel lesser than when we see It. And that's it.
Tana Mongeau
It's so true. Or even just like you said, like just being a lot of people body check these days. Even like tiny girls. Like a thin girl will be next to a really skinny girl. And then people like, wow, like this girl looks huge next to this girl or whatever. And it's like crazy because they're both so sk. Skinny. And I'm like, oh my God, this is wild that people are even comparing like a big girl.
Trisha Paytas
People like saying the craziest, like Tate McCray and her body. And like, I don't. It was so crazy to me because I was like, she's all muscle and.
Tana Mongeau
She looks dancer amazing. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I would like kill off.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
People I love. You know what I mean? Yeah. But it's so wild that we're like in the heroin chic. Like people like just seeing people, like.
Tana Mongeau
I see people refer to Super Carpenter as like curvy. And I was like, that's crazy. Like, curvy is like not a bad thing. Like, yes, she has curves, but when you think of curvy, you think of like a plus size person. So calling like a thin person curvy, I guess they're saying you see her curves. Okay. Yes. It's like wild because then people are like, if this is curvy, like we're.
Trisha Paytas
Just regressing so much societally in so many ways.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
So sad. And like trying not to be a victim to it is like a full time job.
Tana Mongeau
Just 247 is all I'm thinking about.
Trisha Paytas
I feel so, so much for like girls in high school and middle school now.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Too. Because it's like you always see this. Like you see the 12 year olds and 13 year olds online and they look like 20 and stuff. And it's like because of social media, like no one, like no one's having the awkward stage.
Tana Mongeau
I know.
Trisha Paytas
Even like a lot of my friends have been posting their kids going into middle school. Like just like all the girls who do my hair have like middle schoolers and stuff and they like have full blowouts and like a lash and like the makeup isn't ugly. They're contoured down.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. I kind of hate that, that even, even with Malibu, like, obviously I want her to look nice and presentable, but it's like if she wants to wear like mismatched clothes out or something like that. I was like, I just like let her. Or even her hair, she doesn't love it. Like, like to be hours sitting like braiding because I really am trying French braiding like, this is my new era. But she can't sit that long yet. So I'm like, honestly, let's just comb it back into a ponytail. Like, you know, that's what she's.
Trisha Paytas
Kids should be kids. The weight of your appearance. I think in middle school, like, I remember, like, caring about how. But it was just a different time. Like, it wasn't now, like, these kids want to look like Kylie.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And like, that.
Tana Mongeau
Just get the makeup. And I know, like, we didn't have that.
Trisha Paytas
Like, we had, like, you know, like, Hannah Montana and her outfits were all mismatched.
Tana Mongeau
And like, we had Lizzie McGuire, our generation. And she had the same thing. She had these mismatched outfits. And I was like, yes, and she was beautiful. And she would get bullied by Kate, and I was like, okay, Hilary Duff is, like, so hot. And, like, I remember she would be like, I'm just an awkward girl. Like, that's crazy because she was so beautiful. But.
Trisha Paytas
But that was our level of. Of like, I want to be like, this almost not. Like, I want to be contoured. And, like, I want lip filler. And, like, I want, like, isn't that crazy that seventh graders, like, want lip filler? Like, and like, I'm a part of that problem.
Tana Mongeau
And.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, like, I'm not sitting here, like, speaking above it. It just makes me sad.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. No, I love. But maybe we'll get there. Yes. Done. Okay. I. I felt you being like, okay. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And we are going to. To.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I love you.
Tana Mongeau
We're going to our patreon.
Trisha Paytas
We are going on over to our Patreon where we're going to answer some.
Tana Mongeau
Questions or a questions. Any questions at this point. You got to pay now to hear our advice.
Trisha Paytas
It's so true.
Tana Mongeau
Just kidding. I think will be. Will be calls. We'll do a lot of calls.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. And thank you guys for enjoying both. Even if you don't, I'm still thanking you for enjoying both.
Tana Mongeau
Yes. We'll be on our patreon. We'll answer questions. And we love you guys. And yeah, I love. I was gonna say we yapped so much because it's literally like, you were here an hour earlier. We talked non stop. It is crazy how much.
Trisha Paytas
The only Trisha. I swear, the only thing we would need is sleep. Like, we could just keep talking and talking forever.
Tana Mongeau
Okay. So for December, I wish I had a Meg. I'm like, someone make a note of this in December, we need Disneyland. We need the 24 hour stream. We need a Christmas song. And There we go. That's our three that we need to get done.
Trisha Paytas
I would spit and shake if that was not.
Tana Mongeau
Let's do it.
Trisha Paytas
We are making a Christmas song.
Tana Mongeau
Okay. Easy. Done and done. Yeah. Christmas is my favorite. So we need to 100 do one.
Trisha Paytas
And, like, I have, like, I've been wanting to do it. We're setting the time.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Should we make a Christmas album? I'm so crazy.
Tana Mongeau
Let's start with a song. But I would love to do a song, and I think those are three very, like, feasible things to get done in December. So I think if we're, like, limited, like, actual October, it's pasta game night is our goal. And one. At least one Halloween look.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And we're going to Vegas.
Tana Mongeau
I keep forgetting about that. Yes. Yes. I cannot wait for that.
Trisha Paytas
Yep. And the podcast. Call us here, and we love you guys.
Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trisha Paytas
Release Date: September 15, 2025
This episode of Not Loveline dives into the emotional aftermath ("crash outs") following big events, the impact of internet fame on self-worth, breaking free from toxic beauty standards, and the push-pull between authenticity and societal expectation. Tana and Trisha swap candid reflections about influencer life, body image, aging, evolving friendships, and facing life’s transitions—peppered with their signature comedic vulnerability.
On influencer manifesting powers:
“I swear to God, you guys, I’m gonna start bringing Trisha a list of things I want, because the second that you say something, it comes true.” —Tana (03:50)
The pop-culture tangent on Taylor Swift’s engagement:
“You watch someone who sings about heartbreak and like, wanting love and all this stuff and finally get, like, her happy ending…so everyone’s just, like, gagged over it.” —Tana (05:36)
Food confessions after an emotional crash-out:
“I ate so much food yesterday…a full Philly cheesesteak sub, a Nashville hot chicken sub, both of these were dipped into a cheese that…was just titled Whiz. Just Whiz.” —Trisha (21:42)
On wedding tradition critique:
“Even, like, the one flower child…my own kids…like, I want baby too…maybe.” —Tana (54:38)
“Doing things differently is cool.” —Trisha (55:51)
On social media beauty pressure:
“I’m on this side of TikTok where people are trying to convince me to get a bleach and tone again...That is cruel.” —Trisha (67:28)
Body dysmorphia encounter:
“I thought I was so fat back then. And now you look like, oh, damn, I was hot at one point.” —Tana (65:46)
Confronting the “heroin chic” era:
“I see people refer to Sabrina Carpenter as like curvy…and I was like, that’s crazy...if this is curvy, like, we’re…” —Tana (79:24)
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 01:01 | Trisha's crash out after Tarte event & motivation fears | | 02:50 | Tana on overcoming jealousy, influencer support | | 07:58 | Endings, distraction, and comfort in chaos | | 14:25 | Emotional crashout, overeating story | | 17:26 | Parenting, breaking cycles, and thoughts on adoption | | 33:17 | Overwhelm with content creation + Halloween simplicity | | 51:03 | Weddings, intimacy, breaking tradition | | 67:28 | Social media, beauty pressure, and going “natural” | | 73:21 | Manjaro, de-influencing, and the body conversation | | 77:41 | Personal vs. public self-image | | 79:24 | Heroin chic, celebrity body standards, “curvy” debate |
The episode flows with Tana and Trisha’s conversational, irreverent, confessional style, mixing moments of rapid-fire banter with raw honesty. They’re alternately supportive and self-deprecating, comfortable sharing vulnerabilities about food, body image, love, and friendship; their dynamic is both comedic and vulnerable, marked by mutual admiration and a touch of chaos.
Authentic, vulnerable, and frequently hilarious, this episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating influencer culture, body image, and self-acceptance.