Not Loveline – “CRASH OUTS AND DISMANTLING BEAUTY STANDARDS”

Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trisha Paytas
Release Date: September 15, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of Not Loveline dives into the emotional aftermath ("crash outs") following big events, the impact of internet fame on self-worth, breaking free from toxic beauty standards, and the push-pull between authenticity and societal expectation. Tana and Trisha swap candid reflections about influencer life, body image, aging, evolving friendships, and facing life’s transitions—peppered with their signature comedic vulnerability.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Emotional Aftermath & "Crash Outs"

• Trisha explains the “crash out” after her high-profile Tarte Cosmetics launch, connecting her drive and anxiety to both past and future uncertainties:
  • “When things are coming to an end, I still have that little girl in me who is, like, scared to go back to the way that life once was...my biggest motivation is fear.” (01:01 & 07:58)
• Using busy-ness as a coping mechanism: Trisha fills her schedule “to distract myself from the fear” and avoid uncomfortable introspection after a career transition (End of “CANCELLED” podcast).

2. The Power and Downside of Manifestation, Jealousy & Competition in Influencer Culture

• Tana discusses how letting go of unhealthy comparison has allowed her to truly celebrate others’ wins and find her own happiness.
  • “For the first time in my life, in the past few years, like, I don’t feel like I’m in competition with anyone...if I see someone doing well, I’m actually motivated by it and excited.” (02:50)
• Both reflect on how authenticity and real support win over followers more than forced branding:
  • “It just shows the authenticity of you loving it. And that’s what I did with Arby’s too... like, I actually love Arby’s.” —Tana (05:05)
• Fans are most excited when they see their favorite creators genuinely happy—not just “winning” in the usual influencer sense.

3. Stress, Hormones, and Food

• Trisha’s high-octane emotional week includes overeating, hormonal swings, and admitting to tears over her fiancé’s trip and her own “crash out” after the event.
• A funny but real breakdown of emotional eating habits, including McDonald's, cheesesteaks, and “whiz” cheese:
  • “I was whizzed out… onion rings with the whiz. Then McDonald’s, a large McDonald fry... The blue and pink… full shake. Cleared it.” (14:25 & 21:42)
• Tana describes food as both comfort and worry, and laughs off the “in and out” sequence during their podcast brunch.

4. Navigating Motherhood, Adoption, and Generational Cycles

• Trisha and Tana candidly discuss their thoughts on parenthood, breaking negative family cycles, and adoption versus biological kids:
  • “Even having your own kids, you’re like...I just want to, like, end the lineage, you know… maybe adoption, whatever.” —Tana (17:26)
  • “I’d rather, like, save a life that’s already existent...because I’m so passionate about… even my childhood being bad.” —Trisha (18:46)

5. Content Creation—FOMO, Overwhelm, and the Desire for Simplicity

• Burnout from content-making, event-planning, and even Halloween is discussed.
• They advocate for embracing imperfection, both for their own sake and online:
  • “I want to be a black cat. I’ve never been a black cat. I've never been a ghost with the sheets... Let’s go classic.” —Trisha (33:17)

6. Weddings, Traditions, and Gender Roles

• Both discuss their desires for smaller, non-traditional, more intimate weddings:
  • “I want something intimate and, like, almost like Hawaii… having everyone barefoot… you know, like we’re on a cute cliff or a cute beach...” —Trisha (51:03)
• They question wedding traditions rooted in misogyny:
  • “I saw someone the other day on this whole tangent about how the father walking the bride down the aisle is, like, rooted in misogyny…” —Trisha (53:22)

7. The Ever-Present Question of Beauty and Body Image

• Dialogue around evolving beauty standards, the longing for “glow-ups,” and societal fixation with thinness.
• On Manjaro (weight loss medication):
  • “It’s a quick fix… but you will feel the… the substance, like, isn’t too far off in my opinion.” —Trisha (73:21)
  • “You keep de-influencing me, which is good, because everyone else around me is…” —Tana (73:32)
• Both push back on the pressure of staying “heroin chic” and tackle the psychological scars of having their bodies scrutinized publicly:
  • “I want people to know. It’s like, this is wrong with me. I’m not saying I’m right for shooting up Manjaro.” (75:53)
  • “I’m trying to unlearn so many things, beauty standard wise, that have been so societally drilled into my brain.” (78:04)
• On how public opinion hurts even the strong:
  • “When I look at myself in the mirror…I do love myself. But then I find myself thinking about the public’s perception of me and people’s perception and that’s almost what will get me down a rabbit hole.” —Trisha (77:41)

8. Girlhood, Aging, and Dismantling Perfection

• Both reminisce about feeling “ugly” at times they now recognize as beautiful.
  • “I thought I was so fat back then. And now you look like, oh, damn, I was hot at one point.” —Tana (65:46)
  • “That's your 20s!” —Trisha (66:10)
• Embracing no-makeup days and natural hair as acts of resistance to beauty pressure.
  • “I really convinced myself that I had to uphold this insane look all the time…then when you really, really get the full glam… it’s more fun.” —Trisha (69:45)
• The normalization of embracing flaws, real bodies, and the value of authenticity over curation.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On influencer manifesting powers:
  “I swear to God, you guys, I’m gonna start bringing Trisha a list of things I want, because the second that you say something, it comes true.” —Tana (03:50)

• The pop-culture tangent on Taylor Swift’s engagement:
  “You watch someone who sings about heartbreak and like, wanting love and all this stuff and finally get, like, her happy ending…so everyone’s just, like, gagged over it.” —Tana (05:36)

• Food confessions after an emotional crash-out:
  “I ate so much food yesterday…a full Philly cheesesteak sub, a Nashville hot chicken sub, both of these were dipped into a cheese that…was just titled Whiz. Just Whiz.” —Trisha (21:42)

• On wedding tradition critique:
  “Even, like, the one flower child…my own kids…like, I want baby too…maybe.” —Tana (54:38)
  “Doing things differently is cool.” —Trisha (55:51)

• On social media beauty pressure:
  “I’m on this side of TikTok where people are trying to convince me to get a bleach and tone again...That is cruel.” —Trisha (67:28)

• Body dysmorphia encounter:
  “I thought I was so fat back then. And now you look like, oh, damn, I was hot at one point.” —Tana (65:46)

• Confronting the “heroin chic” era:
  “I see people refer to Sabrina Carpenter as like curvy…and I was like, that’s crazy...if this is curvy, like, we’re…” —Tana (79:24)

Timestamps for Key Topics

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 01:01 | Trisha's crash out after Tarte event & motivation fears | | 02:50 | Tana on overcoming jealousy, influencer support | | 07:58 | Endings, distraction, and comfort in chaos | | 14:25 | Emotional crashout, overeating story | | 17:26 | Parenting, breaking cycles, and thoughts on adoption | | 33:17 | Overwhelm with content creation + Halloween simplicity | | 51:03 | Weddings, intimacy, breaking tradition | | 67:28 | Social media, beauty pressure, and going “natural” | | 73:21 | Manjaro, de-influencing, and the body conversation | | 77:41 | Personal vs. public self-image | | 79:24 | Heroin chic, celebrity body standards, “curvy” debate |

Tone & Style

The episode flows with Tana and Trisha’s conversational, irreverent, confessional style, mixing moments of rapid-fire banter with raw honesty. They’re alternately supportive and self-deprecating, comfortable sharing vulnerabilities about food, body image, love, and friendship; their dynamic is both comedic and vulnerable, marked by mutual admiration and a touch of chaos.

Summary Takeaways

• Success as an influencer magnifies self-doubt, but mutual support and authenticity help counter unhealthy comparison.
• Public expectations around beauty, aging, and perfection are corrosive—even for those at the top; learning to value health and authenticity is an act of rebellion.
• Life’s highs (successful launches, relationships, events) inevitably lead to “crash outs”—and that’s okay.
• There’s a growing desire (and need) to simplify, scale back, and break unhelpful traditions—in content, beauty standards, and relationships.
• Friendship, laughter, and shared vulnerability remain powerful antidotes to online and personal pressure.

End-of-Episode Plans & Promises

• Plans for a Christmas song, Disneyland trip, and pasta game night.
• Reflection on the importance of fun, simplicity, and genuine connection in both their work and personal lives.
• Encouragement for listeners to embrace “boring” peace, break cycles, and be authentically themselves.

Authentic, vulnerable, and frequently hilarious, this episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating influencer culture, body image, and self-acceptance.