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- [00:00]
Tana Mongeau
Just old, canceled Tana. You know, there's a little part of her that's like she's dormant and she's in there.
- [00:04]
Trisha Paytas
Yes, yes.
- [00:05]
Tana Mongeau
And you want to fall into old patterns. I've been fighting demons lately just because it is. It's like you want the piece so bad, but then people test the piece, and then it's like, We're rolling.
- [00:19]
Trisha Paytas
Huh?
- [00:19]
Tana Mongeau
Hi, guys. Welcome to.
- [00:22]
Trisha Paytas
I feel like we should just go into it.
- [00:24]
Tana Mongeau
Chili's. Dm. Me and Chili's, they were like, hey, what's the best email? And I was like, this is our year. Crickets.
- [00:31]
Trisha Paytas
But there's a follow up. There's a follow up, follow up happening. I really. I really feel it for you.
- [00:35]
Tana Mongeau
Have Meg harass them, and we'll see.
- [00:36]
Trisha Paytas
I've seen so many Chili's videos where people are just trying, like, every appetizer on the menu and stuff. I not to. Not to, like, compete with Chili's and then not. Sponsored. But have you seen the Applebee's?
- [00:46]
Tana Mongeau
No. I love it.
- [00:47]
Trisha Paytas
Sponsored Applebee's, please.
- [00:48]
Tana Mongeau
Begging.
- [00:50]
Trisha Paytas
The grilled cheese. Like, it's like a burger, but it's on a cheese skillet. And the cheese is bubbling. No, I'm not even like, a cheeseburger person, but it's like a skill. Bubbling cheese. And then there's like, a burger, and it's like the pole. The cheese.
- [01:01]
Tana Mongeau
We have to go. Because that's an in person thing probably, right?
- [01:04]
Trisha Paytas
100 in person. Yes. We should Applebee's nearby. That sounds delicious. Maybe because that would be.
- [01:09]
Tana Mongeau
I would love. We do need another restaurant moment. Like, that. Chili's Day was the best day of my life.
- [01:13]
Trisha Paytas
That's so weird, because we were talking. We both came from the Valley or we came from, like, the 100, 145. And I was going past it, and I was thinking, like, oh, Benihana was right off there. And I was just like, oh, my God, we should be chefs at Bunny Hanna. And then I thought the same thing too. I was like, oh, we went by air one. I was starving before. We just had food. But I was like, I saw the.
- [01:28]
Tana Mongeau
One too, and I wanted it.
- [01:29]
Trisha Paytas
I know. I thought, have we ever done an air one together?
- [01:31]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, we should do an air one together. And we should be Beni Hana chefs. That's, like, hilarious.
- [01:35]
Trisha Paytas
That would be so much fun.
- [01:36]
Tana Mongeau
Just, like, with the skillet, like, flipping everything.
- [01:38]
Trisha Paytas
So fun.
- [01:39]
Tana Mongeau
I would suck at that. And it'd be so fun.
- [01:41]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I'm really bad at it too.
- [01:42]
Tana Mongeau
But it's fun to try we're just princesses.
- [01:44]
Trisha Paytas
And they let you come early before the restaurants open to train.
- [01:47]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Oh, my God. That's kind of funny too, though.
- [01:49]
Trisha Paytas
I love it. Oh, seriously, Be like. No, I love the training. That's the best part. But what's great is that anyone can do this. Like, anyone can. They have it. It's called, like, be a chef program. And, like, I've been a chef. Insert the pictures.
- [02:01]
Tana Mongeau
Imagine we came home to Mako and Moses and we, like, cooked a thing.
- [02:05]
Trisha Paytas
Well, what's great is part of it because you have to pay, and part of it you can bring up to eight people at the Hibachi and you serve them. Like, you serve them.
- [02:11]
Tana Mongeau
Imagine, like, Devin, Meg, everyone. And we're, like, serving.
- [02:14]
Trisha Paytas
That's hilarious, McCullough. Like, you can invite people to come.
- [02:17]
Tana Mongeau
Oh, Trisha. That. We're doing that. And then that could be Moses and Makoa's, like, play date. Yeah, because we need to put them.
- [02:22]
Trisha Paytas
On play dates before the Valentine's episode. We can do that because once we get the bed, Moses was down here and he told Tiana. He's like, we're. The ten foot bed is coming. So once we get the bed, we.
- [02:29]
Tana Mongeau
Can all be in the bed. So I'm in my pajamas. I'm so ready.
- [02:31]
Trisha Paytas
You're manifesting the bed?
- [02:32]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
- [02:32]
Trisha Paytas
Wait, were you gonna go on your tangent or. What tangent?
- [02:35]
Tana Mongeau
I just. I was actually, like, in tears laughing at the fact that I came over here and we shot an entire not Loveline and no one said the word call once. Like, we didn't even. We didn't even think of a call. Like, we forgot we had an advice show. Like, we were like, what?
- [02:51]
Trisha Paytas
Like, it's really just talk. Just talking to each other podcast didn't.
- [02:55]
Tana Mongeau
Even come to mind. I know.
- [02:57]
Trisha Paytas
We're really not doing well with that. Branding. Not Loveline. We are not doctors. We're not experts. We're taking your phone calls. Call this number today. Patreon.com not loveline, where we take calls. And we're posting over there. I just posted our Not Loveline this morning on Patreon. Like, we are posting.
- [03:11]
Tana Mongeau
Good Patreon. We were talking.
- [03:13]
Trisha Paytas
Good one. Yeah. I feel like more people need to go over there.
- [03:15]
Tana Mongeau
But we talked about the halter top of it all. And then. Oh, yeah, I still hadn't seen her video about me. And I went home and I was.
- [03:21]
Trisha Paytas
Like, did you watch?
- [03:22]
Tana Mongeau
I watched the video in full.
- [03:24]
Trisha Paytas
How did you feel? Just reaction.
- [03:26]
Tana Mongeau
Oh, my God. I filmed nine tick tocks. Like, all Drafted. I love draft. I love just the draft. It's the best thing to ever happen to me. Like, I was just old, canceled Tana, you know, there's a little part of her that's like she's dormant and she's in there.
- [03:40]
Trisha Paytas
Yes, yes.
- [03:41]
Tana Mongeau
And you want to fall into old patterns and you want to respond and you feel slighted and all these things. And then I just, like, I didn't. And I tried to move on.
- [03:50]
Trisha Paytas
Was it.
- [03:50]
Tana Mongeau
I don't know.
- [03:51]
Trisha Paytas
What kind of response was it?
- [03:52]
Tana Mongeau
Well, it was that she had said.
- [03:56]
Trisha Paytas
That the response is here live.
- [03:58]
Tana Mongeau
That you're right. I just waited 48 hours to do it on not Loveline.
- [04:03]
Trisha Paytas
It's like, can I tell you? Okay. I really do feel that if after 48 hours, you're like, I still want to talk about it. Like, maybe it's like we're talking about it without having to be like, you speak very well these days. You're not like.
- [04:14]
Tana Mongeau
Well, I know it's crazy too, because I was thinking about the jokes and things I would say as old Tanner that are just funny but diabolical, obviously. And I like, I'm keeping all of those inside.
- [04:26]
Trisha Paytas
You are so funny.
- [04:27]
Tana Mongeau
I'm being.
- [04:28]
Trisha Paytas
No, I always think you're funny. But when I was watching your one about Cassie and Nate still being together and you're talking about all the couples, the worst couples from high school that we know now that are posting, I was like, wait, why is this all so accurate? You're so true.
- [04:41]
Tana Mongeau
It's. Everyone's so mad Cassie and Nate are together and it's like, well done. But people were saying, and it's so true that like. Like, if it was biblically accurate, Cassie would not be an of girl, she'd be a nurse. Because it's always the nurse and the cop. And then they're like the worst people ever and they stay married. And it's so true.
- [04:55]
Trisha Paytas
So funny. No. Cracked me up. Like, we just saw each other, like, a few days ago, and I was like, watching your video. I'm watching your chat. I'm like, she's so funny. Like, I'm like texting him. 10. I'm so proud of, like, I was like, literally, like, that's literally me, though.
- [05:06]
Tana Mongeau
My whole for you is just, like, consuming you always. And it's so sweet.
- [05:09]
Trisha Paytas
And I love consuming your content when it's about us, too. We're doing a song.
- [05:15]
Tana Mongeau
I mean, three Trisha Tick tocks. Back to back to back. By the way, like a super fan.
- [05:20]
Trisha Paytas
That would be me. With you. I literally was talking about you. Tomorrow on Just Trish will be the thumbnail, I'm sure, because you have been. You've been. What was the. There was a topic. Wait, what is your hot topic of the week? There is something that you're very much involved in, and it's not like. What was it?
- [05:35]
Tana Mongeau
It's not the halter top.
- [05:37]
Trisha Paytas
It's not the halter top. But talk about this on Hot Topics, Sarah. Oh, being sober.
- [05:43]
Tana Mongeau
Is that what it is like? Sober video. Yes.
- [05:46]
Trisha Paytas
But there was tea in there. Was there?
- [05:47]
Tana Mongeau
There's a lot of tea.
- [05:48]
Trisha Paytas
Yes. Yeah. In love with Jake Paul would probably be.
- [05:50]
Tana Mongeau
Yes. I finally, like, broke my silence and I'm kind of, like, breadcrumbing it, like, for the book. It's. Yeah. Because it did. It took me so long to even, like, speak about it, and it's still, like. I don't know why it makes me so uncomfortable, I think, because now, obviously, I can see it all with such a clear mind, but obviously there's just so many intricacies and, like, the things people didn't see and just, like, how I felt, you know? And, like, I think that I wanted to deny how I felt for so long, and then eventually it's just like, that's your truth. You loved Jake Paul, girl. That's your funny.
- [06:23]
Trisha Paytas
Like, that just makes it all so much more, like, honestly, like, more empath empathy. Because I feel like looking from the outside, it could be like, ugh, you know what I mean? Like, cloud chasers, attention, whatever.
- [06:34]
Tana Mongeau
Like, maybe two things were true, you know what I mean? That's. That's the thing. It was so layered, you know what I mean? It started this insane, like, addiction to attention and really understanding attention as a currency and stuff. But then it is so. It is just so interesting when you're, like, doing Internet stuff with someone and just, like, even just the bond that you form with, like, friends doing Internet stuff and, like, whatever.
- [06:57]
Trisha Paytas
Like, I don't know, you know, what's real, what's not. Like, okay, is this for the cameras?
- [07:02]
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
- [07:03]
Trisha Paytas
Everything in my entire life has been that. Up until, like, 31, I was just like, wait. Yeah, yeah. The reflection, the clarity, you're like, I think all of this was. None of this was real. Not the relationships, the friendships. I'm like, I think nobody cared about anybody.
- [07:15]
Tana Mongeau
Yes. But you don't know any different when that's all that you're doing. You know what I mean?
- [07:18]
Trisha Paytas
Especially if you've gone, like, for me, definitely, like, being, like, mentally ill, too. It's like, very confusing because I'm just like, okay, this feels real. But then looking back, like, well, duh, dumb. No, they didn't like you. Like, they were literally being like, you fat, eating all those nuggets. Like, the people don't care about you. But then when it ends or whenever.
- [07:35]
Tana Mongeau
You'Re just like, even like Shane, like, we both kind of did that where it was like, you're playing like the friendship. But is it really, like so much of my career, like, was that. I guess. And now I'm very like, particular. Like, I don't want to do anything where I don't know exactly what it is. Like, I know that I care about you and I know that, like, if there were no cameras, I would still like, make the time and effort to see you and hang out with you and care about you and stuff. But, like, at the time, like, other things were just very blurred. And that's like, it's always worth your head too, when it's like your formative. Like, I wasn't. No frontal lobe. You know what I mean? Yeah.
- [08:08]
Trisha Paytas
No, forever. I mean, I'm literally 10 years older than you. I feel the same way where I'm just like, what is a friendship? That's why I'm like, people hate when I can't call someone a friend, whether it's like you or ask. Because now, yes, obviously, like, it's been time. But like, at the beginning I'd be like, I don't know if we're friends because it's so scary. Everyone I've called a friend is just like, you overwork so much. And like, also me, I mean, I was like, also crazy. But yeah, the clarity of it all. But it was a revelation. It was a bombshell that was all over my fyp. I was like, oh, wow, okay.
- [08:35]
Tana Mongeau
I know. I. And I knew it would do that. And that's. I have the same issue with my book where I think there are certain things I'm going to say in my book that will be the bombshells. And I've been really talking to people about how you write that and how you even like. Jeanette McCurdy is a great example how, like, she discussed Dan Schneider and she discussed a lot of that in the book. She called him the creator. She, like, really. She did go into how she felt. She discussed Ariana Grande and stuff. But your takeaway from her book was not, this is a tell all on Dan Schneider and Ariana Grande. And so I'm really navigating, like, how I want to Write it in the regard that I want to talk about these very true and real things that happen to me. But I also don't want people to think, like, buy this because I talk about Jake Paul or buy this because I talk about. Yeah, these other people that like, you know what I mean?
- [09:19]
Trisha Paytas
I don't think it will just how you're talking about them in that video, in your sober video. And now, like, it's just. It will never be that because you're not doing it. Exposing. I think about that too, because I.
- [09:27]
Tana Mongeau
Have nothing bad to say about him, genuinely. I really don't.
- [09:29]
Trisha Paytas
And people kind of know. It's like, what, you can't expose yourself more. People know everything about you in your life. It's like, it's more of like what you, like, look back at with clarity and like, where you're at now and just how you've.
- [09:39]
Tana Mongeau
How I felt. I think that's like, really, I want to, like, just go into a lot of the big moments of my career and, like, what I was really thinking and feeling during that time and like, I think just how my childhood led me to be the perfect candidate for all those big moments and these things.
- [09:52]
Trisha Paytas
Well, that was interesting about your summer video was the, like, background of like, your parents and all that stuff like that. And like, it was interesting, like, the details you went into about all of it. It was like, oh, like you're being like the seventh attempt at a child. You know what I mean? And your dad having. And you like, everyone's like, you have a brother. Like the bombshells that you were dropping.
- [10:10]
Tana Mongeau
I was like, girl, I know isn't that it's crazy. And I really go, like, in depth. Like, that was me just kind of giving people some points, some talking points, some things. But I'm excited to go into depth. The lore never stops coming out.
- [10:22]
Trisha Paytas
No, got that.
- [10:23]
Tana Mongeau
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- [11:13]
Tana Mongeau
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- [11:18]
Trisha Paytas
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- [11:20]
Tana Mongeau
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- [11:23]
Trisha Paytas
Halter top. Yeah, all that. The draft was in the draft.
- [11:27]
Tana Mongeau
She just said that I only have the same opinions as everyone else nowadays.
- [11:32]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, that's crazy.
- [11:33]
Tana Mongeau
It really.
- [11:35]
Trisha Paytas
But can I just interject and say I think everyone had the same opinion. I don't think one person was like, this is a reasonable response to not getting a halter top from a stranger on New Year's Eve. Like, everybody had the same opinion.
- [11:46]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. My real takeaway is obviously, like, all jokes aside, that I find it sad because I was really. I thought about her and I's like, the level that we're at as knowing each other. You know what I mean? And I really wasn't like, her and I are on a level where I should text her about this. I was like, I'm gonna make a video because people want to know my thoughts and I hope that this can help her. And I was thinking about all the times in my career where if someone that I claimed to be a big fan of or have watch if they came online and said something, trying to be nice but being real.
- [12:17]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [12:17]
Tana Mongeau
You know, like that it maybe could have helped me. And that was like where my head was at. And then for her takeaway to be like, nope, Tana's also wrong. She just wants to have the same opinions as everyone else. I was like, you know what? This is too far gone for me to try to help anyone. So I'm just. I'm done.
- [12:30]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [12:30]
Tana Mongeau
But I did, like, I don't know. I. I definitely felt some type of way because it's like, how and what the same video are you saying? Like, I'm a fan of you, but then you have the same opinions as everyone else? Like, no, I just happen to agree. My frontal lobe is develop. Like, I'm wiser. I've seen it all. I've done it. I've been on the Internet for so long. Like, I do agree with the masses on this one. And I think that you and I talk about this all the time. Like, if the masses are all saying one collective thing, sometimes there is A really good takeaway for you to grow. And that doesn't mean that I think that the people who are telling her to self or the people who are telling her just like, yeah, all right. I think that bullying is also, like, a thing. You know what I mean? But I don't know. I just. It made me sad, and I was just like, Also just what a crazy thing. Like, my opinion on your halter top is not going to move the needle left or right on if people like me or not. Like, I know that I've been. If I was trying to make people the only person I'm sucking the fart out of their is, like, Adam Sandler. Okay? Like, I'm not trying. If I was trying to make the masses love me, I would come online, like, opening a mega church. I don't know, like, you know, like, I don't understand.
- [13:40]
Trisha Paytas
Holly was supportive of our megachurch donation idea, which I think is cool.
- [13:43]
Tana Mongeau
Trisha and I were talking about doing shows or, you know, talking about Vegas and how much we love Vegas. It's our favorite city.
- [13:50]
Trisha Paytas
It's our favorite city.
- [13:51]
Tana Mongeau
And Holly gave us the idea to have, like, showgirls with buckets and we could donate to charity. We're trying to figure out how we want to, like, you know, I feel.
- [13:58]
Trisha Paytas
Like that'd be so cool. That'd be so cool to do.
- [13:59]
Tana Mongeau
It's the dream. It's so. Well, I don't know. I can't talk about. Or can I talk about just today how I was thinking about how bad I want to go to Vegas with you.
- [14:08]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, right. Yeah. I don't know.
- [14:09]
Tana Mongeau
That's the whole sentence.
- [14:12]
Trisha Paytas
I mean, it's not like, yes, well, we'll see. I think it's better if we save a little.
- [14:15]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. I'm just gonna say I want to go to Vegas with you.
- [14:17]
Trisha Paytas
I want to go to Vegas with you, too. We've been to Vegas together a lot. Last time we were, like, dystopian, Remember?
- [14:22]
Tana Mongeau
I was so excited to go to Vegas with you. When it's not weather like that. Like, that just dulled our sparkle.
- [14:27]
Trisha Paytas
When it's just, like, excitement. I know. I'm so excited. There's so many, like, Vegas places I want to eat and see. I, like, I'm excited too, for it.
- [14:32]
Tana Mongeau
And a little bit of sphere. But you were a Bieber today. Can we talk about that?
- [14:37]
Trisha Paytas
Yes, I have. I was asking for all the merch when I was leaving because it was so bougie. I went to. It's called I'm surprised Well, I don't know. Maybe I'm not surprised. I don't know if it's like a well known thing, but it was like, it's a really bougie studio in West Hollywood called obb.
- [14:48]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. And I've never heard of this.
- [14:51]
Trisha Paytas
And it's. Everything inside is like Justin Bieber Road. Hailey Bieber. Like, everything is every. And I'm just like. And it's bougie. Like, it's bougie. Like I. There's another. I won't say they're in the studio over there, but there's like another studio behind the Target. And it's like fine, but it's very small. It's always hot. There's no room for anyone to sit it. This is like my dressing room was like five different rooms.
- [15:11]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
- [15:11]
Trisha Paytas
And it was all. They're like, oh, it's. You know, Haley shoots here all the time, so it's decorated to her style. So it's like it looks like the Kardashians or something. Like, it just looks so bougie. I was taking pictures every. I was taking video everywhere. I was like, oh my God, this is so cool. The water was like road branded. They had all her like lip kits and stuff everywhere. And I was like, oh, this is so cool. And then the huge Justin Bieber, like black and white portraits just. And then like, you know, they. They let you drive right on to like, like into it so you don't have to like park on the street. And it's like bougie and there's security everywhere. And then like merch. And it was just like, I don't know, it was so. I like it really impressed by fancy anything because it's just, I think because.
- [15:47]
Tana Mongeau
We didn't have it like, you know what I mean?
- [15:49]
Trisha Paytas
Right.
- [15:49]
Tana Mongeau
We definitely have this level of grit. Like, I'm the same way, like when you walk into somewhere like super bougie that like, you know, a former you would not be allowed in. Oh, like, it's a gag.
- [15:58]
Trisha Paytas
I was taking all the road branded water for you. I'm like, I'm putting all this in my bag. Like, I was literally just taking everything I possibly could.
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Caller
Good.
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Trisha Paytas
And then when I left, they had the merch. Like, it was so fancy on display. And I was like. And I saw the Justin Bieber, like, world tour and I saw like all of a sudden I was like, but can I, can I buy this? And they're like, just take it. And I was like, oh, my God, Sophie, I need a haul.
- [16:16]
Tana Mongeau
Like when we're done filming today. I want them all.
- [16:17]
Trisha Paytas
So I was like, so excited. I was like, oh, my God. Like, they're like, just take it, like.
- [16:21]
Tana Mongeau
Whatever, knowing he's like, been there. I don't know.
- [16:24]
Trisha Paytas
I guess they shoot there, like, all the time. I think he's a partner or he owns it or like, best friends with the owner, I'm assuming partner. Because there was just like, Justin Bieber, Haley Bieber, and they. She shoots there all the time. They did the Kim's Miss Live there. They were like, is this skims? I was wearing like a skims rope. And I was like, oh, yeah. And they're like, we did our Kim's Miss Live here. And I was like, oh, my gosh. So it's like, it's very bougie. And there was a bunch of other people, like, doing this thing there. It was like, really, really cool. It was like, really, really fancy. And I thought of you because I. It's so weird. I saw the Justin Bieber and like, Haley Bieber stuff and I was like, I feel so aligned with them right now. And I was like, oh, I am seeing Tana later today.
- [16:55]
Tana Mongeau
So I was like, maybe that's why we love them so much.
- [16:58]
Trisha Paytas
Did you? I do.
- [16:59]
Tana Mongeau
Did you see that girl? So I guess this is all alleged and I really don't know the story. And this is like what I shouldn't be doing podcasting in 2026. Like, speaking on something that I don't have all the facts on, but, like this licensed therapist, she comes on tick tock, right? And she's like, I'm a licensed therapist and Justin is abusing Haley.
- [17:19]
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
- [17:20]
Tana Mongeau
And then I. I don't know if, like, someone sent her something, like if Haley sent her like a cease and desist maybe or something. And then she's like, up in arms about that.
- [17:30]
Trisha Paytas
That.
- [17:30]
Tana Mongeau
And I, I saw Brooke have this whole take on it and I couldn't, like, I couldn't agree more. The take of just like imagine you're. You're. You get home and you're scrolling and you see your therapist, like, saying that, like, you know what I mean?
- [17:41]
Trisha Paytas
Like, it's actually her. Haley Bieber's therapist.
- [17:43]
Tana Mongeau
No, just like, just a therapist.
- [17:45]
Trisha Paytas
Like, right.
- [17:46]
Tana Mongeau
Like, claim this insanely egregious claim that you would. Could never know. We don't know if Justin abuses Haley. Yeah, no, I don't think he does. Obviously, I'm a believer. I love them together.
- [17:56]
Trisha Paytas
Yes. But, like, I think that's why they are suing, because that's like the craziest thing. You can say so many things and speculate, oh, he hates her, he doesn't like her. Like, whatever you want to speculate. But to say like he abuses her is like, it is just like full on slander. All of it. Yeah.
- [18:11]
Tana Mongeau
And you're a licensed therapist.
- [18:13]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I feel like it should be revoked. I feel like you can't like if you're a licensed therapist and you're die if you're like commenting on someone else that you're like not treating. First of all, if you're treating someone, you shouldn't talk about them publicly. But if you're not treating them especially like, why they. I think you need that disclaimer. Like, I don't treat them. This is my opinion. But she was stating it as like fact as like, yeah, which is just so nice.
- [18:33]
Tana Mongeau
Like we don't know these people and it's so wild that like good for them. I guess that is the difference in like traditional media versus what we do. But like the fact that Haley has never come online, pressed live and just crashed the out on live. Like, if I was Hailey Bieber, I would be crashing that like you people.
- [18:53]
Trisha Paytas
I feel like I could see that take, but I also feel like she's Hailey Bieber. She won. She like won it life. Like, I feel like, you know what I mean?
- [19:01]
Tana Mongeau
Even though she's just so above it.
- [19:02]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like, I feel like we're not married to Justin Bieber and we're not Hailey Bieber and we're not, you know, we don't have road billion dollar company. But like, I feel like anyways, I'm still on that level of like, wow, I'm so happy I made it. I have someone that like loves me and I do okay financially. Like, but on that level that's like times a thousand. Right? And it's like, well, you've already won. Like so.
- [19:20]
Tana Mongeau
And you just can't really trust anyone but your circle. You have your best friends. Ye, yeah, she's fine.
- [19:25]
Trisha Paytas
But protecting peace, that like goes a long way, right? To not like kind of like what you were saying when you keep stuff in the drafts. I feel like it's like worth it more to just like, I've been fighting.
- [19:34]
Tana Mongeau
Demons lately just because it is. It's like you want the piece so bad, but then people test the piece and then it's like, you know, and obviously the truth of the matter is like she no one. You know what I mean? It's not like what she said held any validity. Tara's world. So I didn't like need to like, like do anything, but like, just old me would like go off, you know.
- [19:55]
Trisha Paytas
I think with us it's just also like, we just respond, you know, so many people, so many social media people now too. It's just like, just don't respond, don't respond. I'm like, in theory it's good. I think it's how you respond to. It's like back in the day I'd be like screaming like, you know what I mean?
- [20:08]
Tana Mongeau
But I think it's true. That is true too.
- [20:10]
Trisha Paytas
With your story time, you know, you always try to like paint a story time.
- [20:12]
Tana Mongeau
And I would have made an hour expo, like thought process, all of it.
- [20:16]
Trisha Paytas
Give her a fake name. Yeah. From your side. But it's very much like the fake.
- [20:21]
Tana Mongeau
Name is so funny. Yeah. I love the amount of times they did that.
- [20:24]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I love when he used to do that.
- [20:25]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. And it's like everyone knows Tana. Like, why are you calling this person Bethany?
- [20:30]
Trisha Paytas
Like, I never knew people would always be like, oh, we know who this is about. I'm like, I never knew like the guy, the girls, like, no one you were ever talking about.
- [20:35]
Tana Mongeau
I was like, it would depend. Sometimes I could really keep people under wraps. So other times, like, I was just, I don't know, stupid. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.
- [20:44]
Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
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Tana Mongeau
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- [23:12]
Trisha Paytas
We love you. Well, it's so funny, my story times when I used to do them because you started the trend, it was like what 2012? When did you start story times?
- [23:20]
Tana Mongeau
I don't know, A little longer, like 2013. But I also credit a lot of other people. I really don't think I I started really. I'll never say that.
- [23:27]
Trisha Paytas
Only knew you to start the story times and then everyone was doing it and so I was like okay, I'm gonna get on this because I know.
- [23:32]
Tana Mongeau
Gabbie Hannah was doing it at the same time as well. I don't actually like Factually know who like posted the first one of the two of us. But there were other people.
- [23:39]
Trisha Paytas
I love that you give credit. I'm like, I am the first mukbanger. No one did it before me.
- [23:42]
Tana Mongeau
I just, I. Oh, I get so scared because it's like you want to be like that but then someone will clock my. Like if I was like, I'm the first story timer, they'd be like, no, right?
- [23:50]
Trisha Paytas
I mean, no, definitely Korean girls did it first in Korea. And I just saw that. Yeah, mukbang. But I. I would like to venture that I'm the first. The first American YouTuber to do it. That's.
- [24:00]
Tana Mongeau
You are though, for sure. You've been on YouTube for nine years.
- [24:02]
Trisha Paytas
I do love to flaunt that.
- [24:03]
Tana Mongeau
No one else was mukbanging in the 20th year of YouTube.
- [24:06]
Trisha Paytas
Like 20th year. Yeah, I think it was like 2011. I was like, here's what I gotta talk about. I called it a talk about haul, but it was a mukbang is what I was doing. And yeah, well, because I just see so many people be like, hall is though.
- [24:18]
Tana Mongeau
For food.
- [24:19]
Trisha Paytas
Hall is kind of right. Because that was what it was in. But sometimes when you see, you know, second generation, third generation YouTubers be like, we were at the beginning. I was like, oh, but no, you weren't. And you know what?
- [24:29]
Tana Mongeau
It's so true because I'm. That I, I. There was a whole generation before me that inspired me to do it.
- [24:35]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. You're not out there. I don't know. I mean, it doesn't bother me.
- [24:38]
Tana Mongeau
I'm not claiming that I was the first generation because I'm not. I was the second generation. And then I think like the doe bricks of the world were the third.
- [24:44]
Trisha Paytas
Not to whatever. But like he is. David is that person's like, nobody was like doing this before us. Like, I guess vine is what he's talking about. Like brand deals.
- [24:52]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
- [24:53]
Trisha Paytas
And oh my God, this scared me.
- [24:56]
Tana Mongeau
Always people. No, I get it.
- [24:58]
Trisha Paytas
David will say that. He'll be like, like I think Britney Furlon. I feel like the Viners think they like started the brand.
- [25:04]
Tana Mongeau
And it's like, you guys are going to hate to hear about Smosh and the fine brothers.
- [25:08]
Trisha Paytas
Even me back in 2008, I was getting some coin for. For talking about a product. It was those mints. It was like beauty mint, shoe mint. Like all those mint things.
- [25:15]
Tana Mongeau
I remember the mint. I did the mint too.
- [25:17]
Trisha Paytas
They were. Yeah, they kind of sho dazzle. Yes. Those fat fit. Fun, fun. I think they're still around.
- [25:23]
Tana Mongeau
They are.
- [25:24]
Trisha Paytas
Influenza, I think was what Influenza. That's like literally the flu influenced her. It was like a box. We got free samples.
- [25:32]
Tana Mongeau
Oh, and they would come to you and you would like then try to do a deal with one of the samples.
- [25:36]
Trisha Paytas
No, they would give you. Basically it was a free box. I don't know how it was free, but it was a free box for everyone. And you got full size samples or full size product. Like full size deodorants, full Shay shampoo. I don't know.
- [25:46]
Tana Mongeau
Oh, I.
- [25:47]
Trisha Paytas
It was like really long ago.
- [25:48]
Tana Mongeau
And this. I wonder if that's where Michelle Phan got like the idea to do for sure.
- [25:53]
Trisha Paytas
Because for Ipsy, it was like glam. It was. God, it was called something else.
- [25:59]
Tana Mongeau
Glam something. You're right.
- [26:00]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Those little glam bags that you would get and they were like worthless. But I always flaunt it is. That's all I have, you guys. I really have nothing else. There are so many people, like way more influential, making more money. But I'm like. But at least I was here first. So.
- [26:11]
Tana Mongeau
There are so many people who are way more influential than you. You literally just almost ran for Congress and that you decided you weren't ready or didn't want to. It's not because people said you couldn't.
- [26:21]
Trisha Paytas
I will one day. Yes. I don't even know where we were going. What were even talking story times.
- [26:26]
Tana Mongeau
Oh.
- [26:26]
Trisha Paytas
And then people would be like, oh, I know who she's talking about. And it'd just be like a made up story. I was like, well, there's no one even existed.
- [26:32]
Tana Mongeau
So funny.
- [26:32]
Trisha Paytas
But people would be so like, I know who this is about. It's like I was just.
- [26:36]
Tana Mongeau
That is really. Honestly, that's iconic though. That's what I should have been doing, I think is just literally making out of the blue.
- [26:41]
Trisha Paytas
I think you never did.
- [26:42]
Tana Mongeau
No, I was just very dramatic, like.
- [26:45]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [26:45]
Tana Mongeau
So I guess you could argue that like that is the same thing. But I will say that I genuinely saw life through that lens. So it was. It was real to me.
- [26:52]
Trisha Paytas
Right. Well, that's kind of something to say though, the fact that you never made up a story time.
- [26:56]
Tana Mongeau
Like if I a janky Uber driver though, I would be like. And the smell in the car like that. This like. I. Yeah. I don't. Mico and I were talking about this the other day. Even just like the way that him and I will have an. Like an interaction. Right. Like him and I will go do Something together. And then we will leave the interaction. And he's gonna be like, oh, yeah, maybe the waiter was having a bad day, but people have bad days. You know what I mean?
- [27:15]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [27:16]
Tana Mongeau
And I'm gonna be like, we walked in the restaurant and there were four people waiting, and they all had a disgruntled look that I had. And then I sat down and I could smell alcohol. Like, I will, like, you know what I mean? Like.
- [27:26]
Trisha Paytas
Like, that's why your book will be good. You're so descriptive, every detail.
- [27:29]
Tana Mongeau
And, like, I am very dramatic as a person. Like, just. I have no chill.
- [27:33]
Trisha Paytas
That's so interesting. Are you like that in real life? Like, I may know you in real life, but, I mean, I feel like back then, were you, like, is that how you just saw life is just dramatic?
- [27:40]
Tana Mongeau
I still do. The other night, we were having, like, game night at my house with all my friends, and we were ranking all of us from, like, who's the most chill person to who is the person with the least chill? I got the least chill.
- [27:50]
Trisha Paytas
Wow.
- [27:50]
Tana Mongeau
And it's true. Like, I think just the cancer in me really comes out. I'm very, like. Like, I don't know, like, deeply, like, emotionally sensitive and in tune. You know what I mean?
- [28:00]
Trisha Paytas
The empath that Shane Dawson was talking about. You and Shane, he's a cancer too, right?
- [28:03]
Tana Mongeau
Is he? Yeah, I believe that he's 100.
- [28:06]
Trisha Paytas
He's July 19th year, June 23rd, 24th.
- [28:09]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Yeah.
- [28:10]
Trisha Paytas
Man's cancer. He's July 12th.
- [28:12]
Tana Mongeau
And I love being a cancer because I feel so deeply. But, like, if someone's even rude to me, like, on the freeway, like, I take it. Like, I'm like. And that, like, you know what I mean? Like, I. I definitely do just, like, take things very to heart.
- [28:25]
Trisha Paytas
So it made you a good, like, story timer back in the day.
- [28:27]
Tana Mongeau
And, like, now I can compartmentalize, cool down, like, all the appropriate emotional responses to not be insane, but. Yeah.
- [28:34]
Trisha Paytas
Wait, why do you think we. Why do. Okay, so you just. The drama of it all. You just, like. Because I was trying to think. I'm like, okay, well, you weren't really abusing substances or anything like that. That made you dramatic. It was just your personality.
- [28:45]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. I don't think. Well, substances made me more crazy. Like, wild. Less. Less. Less thought of consequence, I guess more insane in that way. But, like, regardless, just who I am as a person has always been very, like, emotional and dramatic. Yeah.
- [29:03]
Trisha Paytas
Entertaining, too. I think some people would say no, But I do love the. The new. The new video that you did. I was just like, oh, it made.
- [29:09]
Tana Mongeau
Me, like, so happy doing videos like that. That really is, like, when I do dip my toes back into podcasting, that video is very much like, where what I want to do a lot more of. It's just, like, reflection and honesty. Just brutal honesty and, like, you know, versus, like, glamorizing, you know?
- [29:29]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like, just where you're at now.
- [29:31]
Tana Mongeau
And just, like, the fact that I'm not dead and learned all those things and, like, I don't know, just like, all those.
- [29:35]
Trisha Paytas
Name of your book. The fact that I'm not dead.
- [29:37]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, literally. Hey, so the fact that I'm not dead.
- [29:39]
Trisha Paytas
Here's what I learned.
- [29:40]
Tana Mongeau
Gag it. Yeah. Honestly.
- [29:44]
Trisha Paytas
That'S kind of everything. No, I do love. I love, like, the. The new you all together. Like, it's just. Even Friday. It was Friday night. It was like, 8pm and you were texting about ideas for the podcast, like, so. Well, how. How can we make, like, the end of the podcast really exciting for people? Want to listen all the way. And I was like. And you're like, I'm just sitting here, like, thinking about it. You guys don't have to listen to this. And I was like. I loved it because I think I was, like, already in bed, too. I don't know. I was like, 7:30.
- [30:05]
Tana Mongeau
I probably was already grandma.
- [30:07]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I liked it. You were so excited about just, like, creating. Yeah.
- [30:11]
Tana Mongeau
It's not Loveline everything. I literally. Now, that is. That is my. Like, I saw someone say in my comment section, and I, like, found this to be so profound. They were like, I'm an addict. I'm. I'm a recovered addict. And now, like, the phrase that I approach my life with, because I was talking kind of about how when you give up one addiction, it's very easy to pick up another. And, like, you know, you have to be careful of that void and whatever. And they were saying that their mantra for life is, like, I'm addicted to creating the life I want. Like, I. I made that my addiction. And I was just like, that is such a. Such a good way to, like, frame that. You know what I mean? Just. That is where I'm at now, you know? Just like, this is the. That makes me so happy and being present. Yes. You're also working on a book. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, talk to me about yours.
- [30:55]
Trisha Paytas
I mean, I don't even know I.
- [30:56]
Tana Mongeau
Need to shut up about mine.
- [30:57]
Trisha Paytas
No, no, I love it. It's, like, weird. Like, don't talk about it. But I've been talking about, like, every desperation. Like, it comes up this fall. Yeah, we did the COVID and everything.
- [31:06]
Tana Mongeau
More now.
- [31:08]
Trisha Paytas
But I don't know, Like, I mean, I don't. I feel like, wait, don't talk about it. And I'm like. But I guess, yeah, it was fun. It was fun. I've been doing it for a couple of years too, and it's just been like, kind of the same. Kind of like a self reflection book. It is like a memoir, but it's like self reflection and I'm really proud of it.
- [31:23]
Tana Mongeau
I'm so. It's.
- [31:24]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [31:25]
Tana Mongeau
Even the other day I saw a video of Joey Graceffa, like, unboxing his book that he's been writing. It's a fiction book.
- [31:31]
Trisha Paytas
He's in like 20 books. He's in so many books.
- [31:33]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, he. And he's doing, like, which is very him Escape the Night. Like, very fantasy world type of thing. But I just watched him, like, physically open the first time he was seeing his book. And then I like, imagined myself in those shoes. And like, I haven't shot the COVID I'm not there yet. Like, by any means. Like, I'm not.
- [31:48]
Trisha Paytas
You know, it's a process.
- [31:49]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. But like, that's like when you get it in your hands for the first time, like, that's going to be so cool. Even Bunny xo.
- [31:56]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, yes. I'm so excited for her. Strip down. Did I show you the COVID Obviously I can't show anyone else, but I'll show you. They literally, like, don't talk about it. Me. Like, you want to see the COVID.
- [32:04]
Tana Mongeau
Well, the reason why I thought it was okay to talk about is because obviously, being your super fan, I saw a video of you doing a VIP Q&A, like, on tour. Talking about it.
- [32:12]
Trisha Paytas
Talking about literally everything. No, I know.
- [32:14]
Tana Mongeau
I don't know. I love your VIP Q&A, though, because it is the definition of you just walking out on stage and kind of being like, tell me what you want to know. Like, and you tell the people. I can't wait to do that together.
- [32:23]
Trisha Paytas
And me just saying everything. I mean, like, giving every tea.
- [32:27]
Tana Mongeau
Like, the tea. It's every. No, but, like, that's the.
- [32:30]
Trisha Paytas
Because I just. I feel like I know people are recording, but I feel like they're not.
- [32:33]
Tana Mongeau
It's the ultimate fan experience. Like, they're leaving and feeling like I actually just got to, like, Kiki with Trisha.
- [32:38]
Trisha Paytas
Right, right, right. For some reason, I feel like no one's ever going to see it. I'm like, oh, this is Where I'm going to give all the team.
- [32:42]
Tana Mongeau
We need to do that on our tour, on our show shows, like go out and give the tea together.
- [32:46]
Trisha Paytas
But then would you like, have them film or like, not film?
- [32:48]
Tana Mongeau
I don't care. I want to embrace the things you do. I like, I want to try that.
- [32:52]
Trisha Paytas
I mean, I want to be the same with you.
- [32:54]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
- [32:54]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, Ready? There it is. What do you think?
- [33:02]
Tana Mongeau
I'm crying. No, it, like, genuinely actually brought tears to my eyes.
- [33:05]
Trisha Paytas
You're like, yeah, I'm really excited. It was the same photographer. Yeah.
- [33:12]
Tana Mongeau
I'm so excited for you. I'm not. I'm actually not joking, but like, genuinely. No fart sucking aside. Seeing that brought me to tears. And when you guys see this, you're gonna. You're gonna. You're gonna die. Like, it's so. It couldn't be better.
- [33:27]
Trisha Paytas
I think they'll announce it soon because, like, pre sales and all that stuff.
- [33:29]
Tana Mongeau
It couldn't be better. Like the title, the photo that. Oh, my God, I'm not even releasing a book anymore. Honestly gagged me. No, no.
- [33:39]
Trisha Paytas
But that's what I'm saying is like, I like hearing about yours. Like, it's like, it's inspiring because it's like telling your story is like so powerful and like reflecting. That's why I've been so in my feels about, like the past, like the Shane's, the David, because I've been talking so much about it because I do have someone like, helping me, like, organize my thoughts and my stories and stuff like that. So I was like, I've been just like, basically retelling my entire life for the past two years in like, detail and stuff and just like really trying to figure out, like, what's important, what's not. And so everything's been on, like, the front of my mind as far as, like, beginning of YouTube and friendship. Friendships and everything. So. Yeah.
- [34:09]
Tana Mongeau
You feel like, oh, holy. I can't get over that. I'm really not joking. That is like, gonna change your life and change so many people's lives and I can't wait for people to. That's so cool.
- [34:21]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Thank you. I'm really excited. Yeah, I'm excited.
- [34:25]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Do you feel like there's anything in it that's kind of bombshelly? Like, do you feel like there are things in it that people don't know about?
- [34:31]
Trisha Paytas
Thank you so much to SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode of Not Loveliness.
- [34:36]
Tana Mongeau
I'm so excited to see Trisha Paytas and Tana Mongeau live for the Not Loveline tour. Not Love Live.
- [34:44]
Trisha Paytas
Yes. Because, you know, their playstyle is so quick that people will put them up on SeatGeek.
- [34:48]
Tana Mongeau
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- [34:59]
Trisha Paytas
That's right. There's more than 70,000 events listed on SeatGeek, including concerts, sports, festivals, and more. We're about to go see Paw Patrol. I'm very excited about that.
- [35:06]
Tana Mongeau
I'm coming.
- [35:06]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Do you love Paw Patrol today?
- [35:08]
Tana Mongeau
I'm sure I'm not coming, but I want to.
- [35:10]
Trisha Paytas
I love a 10am show and more artists like Zara Larson, Lady Gaga, and Cardi b should do 10:00am I really do want to go to the sphere. No doubt's gonna be there. The Backstreet Boys are gonna be there. I'm really into my, like, Vegas era, where I'm trying to see JLo again.
- [35:22]
Tana Mongeau
Like, God.
- [35:23]
Trisha Paytas
I know, I know. Let's go be Vegas girls.
- [35:26]
Tana Mongeau
Vegas residency anytime. We are manifesting a Vegas residency, but also, I do just love the sphere and shows there. I will go be spherical with you anytime.
- [35:33]
Trisha Paytas
Well, we should check out SeatGeek and see what deals we can get, how close we can get, because there's all good seats. But SeatGeek knows how to give you the best ticket real.
- [35:42]
Tana Mongeau
So grab your tickets now. And I love using SeatGeek anytime I attend an event with SeatGeek, a comedy show or just anything, they make it the absolute easiest for a procrastinating girl like me. Okay. And SeatGeek has your back. Each ticket is rated on a scale of 1 to 10, so you know you're getting a good deal. So look for the green dots. Green means good, red means bad. Plus, every ticket is backed by their buyer guarantee.
- [36:03]
Trisha Paytas
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- [36:13]
Tana Mongeau
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- [36:22]
Trisha Paytas
It's so funny because you, like, you are writing this and, like, like I said, I do have, like, someone, like, helping me and you tell stories and, like, like, to me it's like, nothing. It's like I would just go past it. Like, what do you mean? That's a whole book. You know what I mean? So, yeah, in my head, I'm like, no, everyone knows everything. But then the minute I, like, tell someone else, like, oh, my. That's like, what? That's, like, not normal. Go back. Like, what do you mean?
- [36:40]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I do that too.
- [36:41]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And you're just like, oh, no, that's not even, like, worth the.
- [36:44]
Tana Mongeau
That was Tuesday for me.
- [36:45]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, that's a whole book. That's a movie. That's like, why don't we. You know what I mean? And you're just like, okay. So. Yeah, I don't know. I'm like, you. Where I don't want to either be like, bombshell exposed, you know?
- [36:56]
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
- [36:57]
Trisha Paytas
I also think, like, we were talking about earlier, I think everyone knows everything that's, like, happened in my life. It really is like, reflection, takeaways, all of that. And I feel so, like, good doing it in that capacity because I think we're so similar in the sense of, like, we've been so publicly. I won't say awful for you, but, like, maybe I've been publicly awful and I've been on the, like, the depths of hell. Like, people are like, oh, is she okay? And it's like, at least now I can, like, have that sort of ending where it's like, it's gonna be okay. Like, spoiler alert. Skip ahead a few chapters. Like, it's okay.
- [37:26]
Tana Mongeau
Actually, yeah. Do you ever have, like, a. Because I have this sometimes with my book where I'll write something down, down, and I'll be like, as I'm writing it, I'm thinking about it as a third party. Right. I'm like, this is like. I'm really proud of this writing. Like, I think people are gonna like this story. Like, no one's ever heard this. Like, and then, like, four days will go by and I'll be in bed, about to go to sleep, and I'm like, I can't believe I'm gonna, like, bear my soul like this.
- [37:48]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, yes. I think with that, you had to just like. And you probably will have a hard time with this, because I know even, like, with, like, edits and stuff, you're very, like, you think about stuff. I'm someone that I really do just have to, like, let it go. I take a of lot of time in the moment, and I'm like, okay, Trisha, really think about how this happened because, like, you just, you know, you Just want to make sure it's like accurate.
- [38:04]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, that's the other thing too.
- [38:06]
Trisha Paytas
Like, yeah, like. And if I don't remember something, I just don't put it in. I'm like, if I can't remember exactly. But it's like going through old phones, going through text, just like wanting to make sure. But you really just have to let it go. Because I'm the same way. Because there are certain things I'm like, oh, I never really talk about this. It kind of feels awkward. But I'm like, I need to just put it out there. Like, because it's like, yeah, that's the whole point.
- [38:23]
Tana Mongeau
It's just such a emotionally intense process. So I can't. Being at this stage, I'm so happy for you because I'm like, I can't wait to be at that point where I'm looking at a cover and I know it's done and I've gotten through the emotions of it. Cuz like right now I'm just so in the emotions of it and it's so intense. Even like lately I realized something new that I'm realizing. One, one vow I have for this book, because we were even just talking about this, is like, I am very dramatic and stuff in the way that I tell things or like I can be very detail oriented and just like, you know what I mean? Really take it. My vow for this book is to. And obviously I do this in everything, but I don't know how to explain it. Just be so honest. Like there will not even be one sentence in this book that is fluffed for anything. Like I want it to be like factually how everything happened. And I do have a lot of things that happen to me in my life where it's not even necessarily that I look at it as this big dark, traumatic thing, but I know that I'm going to be really honest about these things that happened and people are going to take it that way. And then I was realizing that I like still do. Even with like the Cody Co stuff and just different stuff that it's happened in my career and like even with my parents suing me, people not believing me in court. I. I live with this fear sometimes that people will not believe me or people will detest me or that these people that I'm writing about are gonna try to detest me. Like, you know what I mean? I mean, and it's like you just.
- [39:45]
Trisha Paytas
Can'T think about it because like at the end of the day I always do think, like truth always comes to light. And I always just think like you just can't think about it. Your story is your story. And I think like your video was just like such a good reflection of it. I think. I know that's why your book will be so good. Because it's just like. It's real, it's honest. You're very calm about it. You're very. You take your emotions out of it, which I think is like, like hard to do. Especially stuff with your parents. I'm like crying, I'm like sobbing. Like watching your video, I was like, oh, the way you're handling it is just like very. As if you're telling like narrating someone else's story, which is like, you know.
- [40:11]
Tana Mongeau
That'S how I really want it to be. Like, I just want it to be very factual. I'm just. There are certain little stories and things where I'm just like, damn. I really hope that people know that I'm putting. I know that a book is eternity. You know what I mean? Like when you put things onto paper and you put it out forever, it's not a YouTube video. It's not a tick tock. There's no takesies, backsies, there's no. You know what I mean? Like that I, I wouldn't even tell 1% of not the truth. Like, I wanna, I want it to be the most honest, raw thing I probably ever will do, you know?
- [40:39]
Trisha Paytas
And then they also have like legal people look at it too. So like legality, they're like, okay, can you like legally say this? Are you that. But I, Yeah, that's why I was, when I was going through it, I was like, it has to be all factual because like what I am saying is like the truth and stuff. But it does, it does go through like so many people. But sometimes maybe having someone just like not even help you write it, but just like bouncing stories off of. So you can kind of like gather a direction too. But it sounds like you're doing good. Like the fact that you're just like sitting at the computer just like typing is like really impressive.
- [41:02]
Tana Mongeau
So I'm about to send my. Yourself on like a. Literally like a writer's retreat.
- [41:06]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, you should. That like helps a lot.
- [41:07]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Because I struggle with. Someone asked me this yesterday. They were like, where do you write your book? And I realized that I write it everywhere but home. I've never like, I've maybe written a page of this book that's already like 20, 30 chapters deep in my house.
- [41:22]
Trisha Paytas
20, 30 chapters. Are you gonna Cut it down.
- [41:24]
Tana Mongeau
I'm gonna cut it down for sure.
- [41:25]
Trisha Paytas
I mean, first of all, I feel like you should publish a 30 chapter book. That's, that's so why really, if it.
- [41:30]
Tana Mongeau
If it wouldn't my way be the size of an encyclopedia.
- [41:32]
Trisha Paytas
But wait, but you know, I need to do that.
- [41:34]
Tana Mongeau
But I understand you can release second books and like, you know, like you.
- [41:38]
Trisha Paytas
Should kind of maybe divvy it up like Bridgerton where it's like seven part series and you just get like a whole series.
- [41:43]
Tana Mongeau
I know because the more I write about my childhood, the more I'm like, holy. Could end it here, but like, and then have the next one be about Hollywood. But I don't know.
- [41:50]
Trisha Paytas
I mean, maybe you should if you're writing that much. I mean that is just so much.
- [41:53]
Tana Mongeau
Happened, so much traumatic. That shaped me for who I am and like the way I was living. Like that was why I started Story Times. Because I felt like by the time I time I was 14, I had lived 30 lives. You know what I mean?
- [42:07]
Trisha Paytas
You have. And people want to hear every detail because I, I saw all the comments even on Tik Tok. All the ones are getting likes. It's like, oh my God, like I need to know all of these details. I feel like, yeah, you shouldn't skip it. Have you talked to someone about doing three books? Like, do you have a publisher yet or. No.
- [42:18]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I've been like, I've been. I'm not, I'm not fully locked in, but I think I know who I want to go with and like just I've been. I found the people that I want.
- [42:26]
Trisha Paytas
Maybe bounce it off. Like we should do like a Twilight where it's like three read books, the.
- [42:30]
Tana Mongeau
Apple on the COVID and all. Like, literally, like it could be. So it's, it's interesting like figuring that out. But yeah, essentially I can't write at home for some reason. I just like, I'm too distracted.
- [42:39]
Trisha Paytas
No, but that's. I was gonna say that's actually like everybody because I. My whole, my whole book was on tour.
- [42:44]
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
- [42:44]
Trisha Paytas
I started at Trishmas 2024 and I. Every tour stop is when I was.
- [42:48]
Tana Mongeau
Like writing because no way.
- [42:49]
Trisha Paytas
So much time. Like, you know, we were like just in the hotels and like traveling and.
- [42:53]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, that's. I don't know why, but like I just have to be like away from my life to like reflect on my life. Like when I'm home, I'm thinking of the million things I have do.
- [43:01]
Trisha Paytas
But I think there's anyone who like, works from home, too. That's why a lot of people don't like to work at home, because you're just distracted. There's just, like, too many things.
- [43:06]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. So I'm trying to figure out where I'm gonna go to, like, really crank on this book.
- [43:10]
Trisha Paytas
You know, where I loved and I did a lot of mine was in New York, both multiple times.
- [43:14]
Tana Mongeau
Everyone. And I agree. I feel so inclined to go sit with a New York view in a room, lock myself in it. But you know what I'm afraid of is that there's so much I love to do there and friends there and that, like, oof, that's hard. You know what I mean?
- [43:29]
Trisha Paytas
Like, I don't want to go to a cabin.
- [43:31]
Tana Mongeau
I just literally Park City, Utah. Like, just go be in the snow, because then you can't leave.
- [43:36]
Trisha Paytas
That's a really good one.
- [43:38]
Tana Mongeau
Like, I don't like the snow.
- [43:39]
Trisha Paytas
Although right now, it's like the Sundance, I think, happening up there.
- [43:42]
Tana Mongeau
Oh, and that'd be awful.
- [43:43]
Trisha Paytas
I don't want to be mix of it.
- [43:44]
Tana Mongeau
Any part of that. Oh, my God. At all. Yeah.
- [43:46]
Trisha Paytas
No, I think that's, like, so real, though. Or St. George is where they did the high school musicals, and it's really beautiful up there.
- [43:51]
Tana Mongeau
That's true. Yeah. I have to go send my. Myself somewhere. Patricia, that's. I cannot get over your title and your cover.
- [43:58]
Trisha Paytas
Thank you.
- [43:59]
Tana Mongeau
Like, that is, like, gag city.
- [44:01]
Trisha Paytas
Thank you. I'm right.
- [44:02]
Tana Mongeau
City, Utah.
- [44:03]
Trisha Paytas
That's where we're gonna go. I know. Speaking of Utah and St. George, when we were talking about. You were talking about the song on your TikTok. You're like, what should we do? I literally was like, meat is always thinking about High School Musical. I was like, oh, do you remember? Did you watch them? Are you okay?
- [44:16]
Tana Mongeau
Yes. Yes.
- [44:16]
Trisha Paytas
You've seen all of them?
- [44:17]
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
- [44:17]
Trisha Paytas
Do you remember in High School Musical 3, they did the the Boys Are Back, where it's like, him and Chad, and they're, like, dancing on top of the car. Cars. And it's like, the boys are back. Well, first I was like, we should do this. But then there's, like, such heavy dance breaks. I'm like, does tana dance?
- [44:35]
Tana Mongeau
I would learn a dance number for whatever we're doing.
- [44:38]
Trisha Paytas
This one is crazy. You need to, like, holy Just a little bit of the dancing. Because I was like, I feel like.
- [44:43]
Tana Mongeau
We could learn Amari's somewhere sweating, knowing he's gonna be teaching me this, because, you know. Oh, yeah.
- [44:48]
Trisha Paytas
Like, okay. So he can definitely help you. So I literally probably did it the other day. Oh, like, there's. Yeah. Boys are back.
- [44:54]
Tana Mongeau
I'm really, like, passionate about our music endeavor right now.
- [44:58]
Trisha Paytas
I know. Thinking, like, what cover? Hold on, wait.
- [45:00]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Oh, I remember this perfectly.
- [45:03]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, so when they do, like, oh, you're lying, Trisha.
- [45:07]
Tana Mongeau
They're fully break dancing, by the way. I'm talking, like, like, on the ground on all fours.
- [45:11]
Trisha Paytas
Wait, wait, password.
- [45:13]
Tana Mongeau
You're lying. And we have a bunch of backup. That's kind of everything. Imagine the cars were like, too. Like, we got that pink gym wagon.
- [45:19]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, that'd be actually really cool.
- [45:20]
Tana Mongeau
We could do it like. Oh, my God, we are. Wait, I see the girl and gay version of this.
- [45:27]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it can be, like, our version. Or we could dress as Zac Efron and Corbin Blue. Or, like, just be ourselves. You know me, I always want to dress like Zac Efron every chance I get. I'm like, where can I do.
- [45:35]
Tana Mongeau
Why don't we do that for this Halloween? We should be. We should be High School Musical people. But I've always wanted to do the Beat It. Like the. Or what? When you're on the golf course, bet on it.
- [45:45]
Trisha Paytas
Like Michael Jackson. I was like, me too. And then they fight each other, people.
- [45:50]
Tana Mongeau
No, not Beat It. Not Beat It.
- [45:54]
Trisha Paytas
We just do another cover of it.
- [45:55]
Tana Mongeau
Would you ever do it again? I just want to recreate it again.
- [46:00]
Trisha Paytas
I think I could. I suppose if we go to St. George Fair writers retreat. I'll meet you up there.
- [46:05]
Tana Mongeau
Oh, my God. I would do anything to be bet on it with you. It's like, actually, like, I can't.
- [46:09]
Trisha Paytas
I mean, yeah, anyone can go to that golf course. In theory, we could.
- [46:13]
Tana Mongeau
And just like. Like the. I'm like, the black polo. Like, it isn't. It is a outfit I've always wanted to do.
- [46:19]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, done. We'll do it.
- [46:20]
Tana Mongeau
We have to do it. The next one.
- [46:22]
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Where were you at before that? I don't even know. I just totally was like, let's do it.
- [46:30]
Tana Mongeau
Ever had a. Like, before that? Like, we've always just been on, like, one long tangent that, like, no one has any idea where it originates from.
- [46:40]
Trisha Paytas
And then me going from my agents, like, don't talk about your book yet. To me being like, here's the COVID Comes out in the fall. It's a memoir to tell.
- [46:52]
Tana Mongeau
Why is that always happening to me too? It's like, don't talk about this. And then I'm like, with you, I.
- [46:56]
Trisha Paytas
Feel like I need to tell you every single thing that's happened. I couldn't agree. All of it.
- [47:00]
Tana Mongeau
I couldn't agree more. Oh, my God, that really, like, I'm so happy you told me that. But that is so funny because literally I'll have like an agent or a manager tell me like, do not say this to anyone.
- [47:08]
Trisha Paytas
And then I'm like, well, also too, because are so open about your book. I don't want it to be like when I like, if I announce like next week, you'd be like, what the. I'm talking about this book and you never told me, so it's never. Would it be like, oh, by the way, like me just like rushing to get a book out, you know? I guess I should talk about it. Sorry.
- [47:28]
Tana Mongeau
Okay. I've always known it because like I said, you did the fan Q and A and I watch everything because I'm your super fan. I know.
- [47:35]
Trisha Paytas
Do you really watch the Q and A's? That's so funny.
- [47:38]
Tana Mongeau
Like, honestly, whenever you're on tour and I get on Trisha pre show Q and A TikTok, I'm eating it up and I always get like a little.
- [47:45]
Trisha Paytas
Mention and I'm like, oh. They always ask, where's Tana?
- [47:48]
Tana Mongeau
I'm so excited for our FaceTime, Tana.
- [47:50]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, me too. I'm excited too. It's coming, guys, it's coming. We should take a call. Where are we at?
- [47:54]
Tana Mongeau
We are at 43 minutes.
- [47:56]
Trisha Paytas
43 minutes, okay. Yes.
- [47:58]
Tana Mongeau
That's what we do, right?
- [47:59]
Trisha Paytas
We do, we take call, spark something.
- [48:02]
Tana Mongeau
Call us, beep us if you want to reach us.
- [48:04]
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Chrissy Carlson Romano. Yes.
- [48:06]
Tana Mongeau
You on the car. Right over here. Meg was like taking a bet with herself. She was like, I bet that across this you guys are going to do four calls.
- [48:14]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, let's try and get there. Let's try and get to at least four.
- [48:17]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, four across the whole day, mind.
- [48:18]
Trisha Paytas
You, not just your four hour block.
- [48:21]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, let's take a call.
- [48:25]
Caller
Hi, Trisha. Hi, Tana. Love you guys so much. And Tana, on last Monday's episode, I heard you talking about dental stuff. And I am absolutely petrified of going to the dentist. Literally, my biggest fear, I have to go tomorrow at 8am Today is the 16th and the day before because I've been feeling jaw pain. I literally gave myself a panic attack as I thought of going to the dentist where my vision literally blurred and clouded. So I would like to know what you guys have for advice of getting.
- [49:02]
Trisha Paytas
Over fears of Close your eyes, exhale. Feel your body relax.
- [49:07]
Tana Mongeau
Relax and let go of whatever you're carrying Today.
- [49:11]
Trisha Paytas
Well, I'm letting go of the worry.
- [49:13]
Tana Mongeau
That I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe.
- [49:20]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry.
- [49:27]
Tana Mongeau
Namaste.
- [49:28]
Trisha Paytas
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Trisha Paytas
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- [50:11]
Tana Mongeau
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- [50:14]
Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
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Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
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- [50:32]
Trisha Paytas
Going to the dentist like that.
- [50:33]
Caller
Thank you so much. Love you guys.
- [50:35]
Tana Mongeau
We love you. It's funny because I thought she said gentle, and then I was thinking about the Patreon, and I was gonna go on this whole tangent about, like, gentle sex or something, like missionary sex. Literally, that's where my. What I thought, where I thought this was going. I was like, we're not on the Patreon dental girl. I don't know. I literally. I've had five sets of veneers. I still hate it. Like, I don't know. Like, I think that so many things that make you anxious in life because the real question here really has nothing to do with the dentist, right? It's like, how do I get myself to do something that I know I need to do, but it makes me anxious? And, like, the real answer, I think, unfortunately, is exposure therapy. Like, just doing it. Just like, you hate it and, you know you hate it. I think I love vocally complaining as well. I have a whole tangent about how, like, sometimes I. I think that saying, like, I hate this and I don't want to do this and this is gonna suck and like, whatever on the way, let it out, you're in the car, you're about it. But you get there and you still do it anyway. And like, just exposure therapy. Like, because then you'll be there and your mouth will be numb and you'll be like, this isn't a lot of the things that you tell yourself in your brain aren't gonna happen. And then also, like, eventually the thing will also be over. Whatever it is the thing that, like, made you anxious to do, you know? You know?
- [51:52]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I feel like that's real.
- [51:53]
Tana Mongeau
What's the Trisha Paytas hack for? You know, Like, I feel like you're really good at pushing the boundaries.
- [51:59]
Trisha Paytas
I was gonna be like, you know what? I'm thankful. I just started thinking what I'm thankful for. I'm thankful I have teeth to look at. I'm thankful my teeth haven't fallen out. I am thankful I have the money to pay for this. I'm thinking, you know, I started thinking about all the good things. No, but yours is probably way more real. Like, I feel like more people are like, no, because you do have to just plow through things. I'm really thinking about something else that's anxious that maybe you couldn't be grateful. Like, I'm trying to think of a bad situation where I'm like, no, your.
- [52:20]
Tana Mongeau
Advice was ten times better than mine. Because that' actually so real. Like, I'm thankful I have the money to do that. Like, I'm thankful I can go here. I'm thankful I can fix this. And like, we do forget that sometimes. You know what I mean? Like, I think because it's a good thing, the ending of it is the net positive. Like, you're in jaw pain. You're gonna help yourself get through it. Like, you know what I mean? That's better. That's advice talks about that.
- [52:42]
Trisha Paytas
Have you read the Secret? It's old. It's like 2016.
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Tana Mongeau
2016.
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Trisha Paytas
It's very.
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Tana Mongeau
You write it down, the Secret.
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Trisha Paytas
Wait, you never heard of the Secret?
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Tana Mongeau
No, it's a book.
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Trisha Paytas
Book and a movie. It was like, it like, changed everyone's lives. What was it? 2016 or something? It was like the biggest, like, documentary. Everyone's like, you have to watch the Secret.
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Tana Mongeau
No, I was just 2006. Oh.
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Trisha Paytas
I was 18 when it came out. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You never seen that?
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Tana Mongeau
I've seen that. I've like, definitely seen that.
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Trisha Paytas
Watch it or read the book. And I. I was late to. I was like 2021 when I found it. But that's what changed my Whole life. And like, one of the. The first chapter is basically like, if you're paying bills, to not be like, oh, I hate paying bills. It's like, oh, I'm thankful that I have the money to pay the bills. And there was like another, like, little visualization hack where it was like, if you were writing like 180 check, like, you would write like, you just like visualize like two extra zeros and be like, this is in my bank account. I was doing this at a time where I was like a million dollars in debt. Like, owed money to the irs. I own all these things like that. And I was like, okay. So I was like doing that. And I kept telling Moses. I was like. Because it was like right after we got married, I had to be like, oh, by the way, I'm a million dollars in debt. And he's like, oh, okay. But then he was trying to, like, help me, like, just be on a better course. I was like, don't worry, I'm visualizing it. And for us, I think he was like, okay, yeah. He's like, well, how about we just like, not spend the money and then the money's in there? And I was like, no, no, no. Like this month money's coming.
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Tana Mongeau
And she's like, no, no yellow working now. Now I was.
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Trisha Paytas
I was. I was buying. Oh, my God, not the Birkin, because I'd had that in 2020. Oh, it was 2021. But after, yeah, I was buying even like little bags, like little blunt yoga, like 3,000. I was like, oh, we have no money.
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Tana Mongeau
And I was like, wow, but I need this.
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Trisha Paytas
But that what it was? Yeah, that's what it was. It'd be like a three thousand dollar bag. And I'd be like, no. But like, you don't understand. I added two more zeros. I'm gonna have 300,000 in the ENC count. He's like, but when.
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Tana Mongeau
It came, it.
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Trisha Paytas
Just took a minute. You know what I mean?
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Tana Mongeau
No, that's. Actually, both of those are great advice. Like, I don't know.
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Trisha Paytas
I'm.
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Tana Mongeau
No, I'm in my. You've made me believe in manifestation to the fullest extent. I don't care how delusional I sound to anyone or to like about anything. I think anything is possible. And I think that's the way you should approach life. Because we have one life and. But I also do. Like, I really. The gratitude thing is a great way to go about things that you don't want to do. You. You know, Paige and I did that for, like, a year. And we were definitely, like, sarcastic about it, but, like, we made everything we didn't want to do. We would phrase it with, like, we get to. You know what I mean? Like, I get to go to the dentist. Not I have to go to the dentist. I get to go grocery. I get to pay this bill. I get to have a long work day. I get to be exhausted because I'm. My life is so fruitful.
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Trisha Paytas
That's so smart. You guys came up with that, or it was, like, a thing you heard.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah, we know. We were, like, just in the car, and we were like, oh, my gosh, we should. We should approach these things. We have to. To do. Like, we get to. And it kind of works. We were pretty miserable.
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Trisha Paytas
You were like, the original. Let them. I love. Because that is so smart. I was like, I love that.
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Tana Mongeau
Actually get you a friend who. You say one profound thing, and they look you dead in the eyes and say, you're the original letter. That is.
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Trisha Paytas
That really is because I love. I love. Let them. I use it all the time. But I love. We get to.
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Tana Mongeau
I love that it's. And it's. That is what. The genuine approach to the dentist. And I struggle with that. I really do. And I think that a lot of things come from fears and bad experience, too. Like, a lot of fears come from bad experiences. But just, like, I'm even trying to approach my, like, current dental situation. Like, okay, these aren't the last times. Like, this is a new person. This is a new time. Like, you know, you can rewrite and things. Like, I used to be so horrified of getting IVs, and now I'm like, shove the needle. Because, like, I know the end result is to make me feel better. You know what I mean? IVs, like, like, just, like, in your arm. Like, if you're sick. Like, I just got an IV because Mo is sick, and I didn't want to get sick, so I got an iv and I used to, like, sob and cry when they were doing it because I hate, hated. Like, it's cold in your arm. It hurts getting the needle in.
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Trisha Paytas
Like, what is it? What do they pump in there?
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Tana Mongeau
Myers cocktail. So, like, all the vitamins and, like, anything. If you're, like, nauseous, they'll pump Zofran. If you, like, have a headache, they'll pump, like, ibuprofen. Yeah, it's expensive.
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Trisha Paytas
I feel like you should go to the, like.
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Tana Mongeau
Okay.
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Trisha Paytas
Love that doctor.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah, the. Well, it's the iv, doc. Like, they. They are licensed Nurses like they are. Yeah. And they come and they make you feel better and they whatever ever. But yeah. I used to have a panic attack every time and now exposure is a big thing and, like, the end result is a big thing. You know, like, just. You said it. You're in jaw pain and you're gonna not be. So.
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Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
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Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
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Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
It actually sounds so fun too. Like, oh, my God, I wish this was around in a time where I could do it.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
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Tana Mongeau
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Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. Our duet is Tinder double date. Maybe they'll sponsor our music video.
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Tana Mongeau
I'm not kidding. They're going to. We're manifesting it.
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Trisha Paytas
I love it. Thank you, Tinder. Yeah, I am on like an Instagram quote feed right now and there's like, Instagram quote. I always see. It's just something like, do you see this one where it's like, if you're gonna overthink the worst, why not overthink the best? You know what I mean?
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Tana Mongeau
It's so true.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah, change that. Like, you're overthinking things. Just be like, so I never even think, like, but what if I just didn't like. Nope, we're good.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
I meant to be. It's meant for me.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah. And like, that is so true. Like, what if this is so good that I don't need any more dental work? Like, you can be overthinking the good, so even easily. Oh, that. And it's hard. It is. All of these things, I feel, like, come down to retraining your brain. You have to be your biggest, like, supporter in the regard of any hurdle that you're going through, whether it's anxiety, whether it's literally any hurdle of, like, retraining the way you look at it, you know?
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I think that's. I think that's so great advice. And I also feel like the dentist, as someone who did not go for. I think it was, like, I always said 10 years. I think it was, like, 15 years. I'm like, how old am I in 37? You know what I'm gonna say? It's even before I was 18, I was still, like, living with my dad. I think I was 17. So I'd probably, like, 20 years of not going to the dentist, which is, like, insane. And I went in 20, 24. And as someone who's, like, not terrified, but I was like. I just was putting it off. I was like, I don't need this. I don't want. I'm, like, so happy. I did. My, like, migraines went away. My quality of life went better. It's like me wanting my implants out. Like, it's like. It's annoying, and it's like, I hate that thing. I don't feel so much better. And when I got the dental work done, I was, like, not getting migraines anymore. I was, like, feeling better.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
And it, like. I guess it just didn't. You know why it didn't suck? Because the wildfires were happening here. And I just remember being, like, putting things in perspective where I'm just like, okay. I'm like. It was crazy, though. There was an evacuation while I was getting my teeth drilled. And I remember, like, there was a literal hole in my mouth, and they're like, oh, we need to evacuate. And I was like, oh, like, my hole. And then my hole. I was like, there's a hole in my mouth. And she, like, stayed a couple extra hours, I guess I hope her stuff was fine. I didn't follow up, but, like, I remember being, like. In comparison, I was like, I guess it's okay that my. My mouth is getting drilled.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah, that is so true. Like, just in retrospect, and it's like, everyone has to do it. I also will say this is not, like, my main takeaway of advice, but dentists also know how people feel and how awful it is. And there are things like laughing Gas, like, for my root canals. I would have them. He would prescribe me, like, it was a dose of a baby Ativan. It was, like, literally what they would give, like, toddlers before I would get my. Because I've had 10 root canals. So before every single root canal, he would give me a child's Ativan. And then. Then I, like, felt a little better, and I would just kind of, like, chill out.
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Trisha Paytas
Like root canals?
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Tana Mongeau
Yes.
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Trisha Paytas
Yes. What does a root canal do?
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Tana Mongeau
A root canal has to do with your nerves. So, like, for me, I needed them because my teeth were shaved down so much that my roots and nerves were exposed. So I was just always in, like, extreme sensitivity or just straight up pain. So, yeah, I had to get a bunch of those. But by my 10th root canal, I was walking in, jumping into the dentist's arms, like, spinning around like, Dr. Adasami, I love you. Like, he. That's my guy. Like, but the first one, I came in screaming, sobbing, you know, like. And it was just kind of like a thing where over time, you know, it got better.
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Trisha Paytas
And it does take practice in time. I don't want anyone to have, like, anxiety. Be like, you're cured, you know? Like, it does take practice, but just.
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Tana Mongeau
So many things are. Exposure therapy. Even lately, I, like, I developed flight anxiety, and I've never. I used to love turbulence so much.
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Trisha Paytas
I, like, oh, that's crazy.
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Tana Mongeau
Like, I love you.
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Trisha Paytas
Love the bump.
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Tana Mongeau
I loved the bumps. I felt, like, the feeling in your stomach, like, let me not go rated R, but whatever.
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Trisha Paytas
Like, simulated something for you. You're like.
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Tana Mongeau
I was like, this is fun. Like, oh. And then one day I just woke up, and I felt the exact opposite. It would give me a panic attack. The plane's going down. Like, whatever. Wow. And even, like, our flight to Vegas, I was, like, freaking. And I was trying to be calm and stuff, but I was freaking out. And the only real answer is to keep taking the flights and keep landing. You know what I mean? To keep landing and to keep knowing that you're going to be fine and it's. The pilot up there is doing everything in their power for themselves, like, whatever. But, yeah, I could never fly on a plane again and just have the anxiety. But the only way to get through it is by doing it, you know?
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah. No, that's. I think that's perfect advice. So good luck at your dentist.
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Tana Mongeau
Good luck at your dentist appointment. We love you.
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Trisha Paytas
You're kind of like the poster child for, like, dental work. I think people look to you for, like, Advice on teeth. Like, that could be like your. Your TED Talk.
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Tana Mongeau
I'm like, what was it in the Fairly Odd Parents? My Shiny Teeth and Me. That's about to be me.
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Trisha Paytas
Like, actually, it is.
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Tana Mongeau
It is my TED Talk of the century these days. But that's your book.
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Trisha Paytas
Your children's book is going to be My Shiny Teeth and Me.
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Tana Mongeau
Would you ever write a children's book?
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I would love to. I did another project last week on Kantejo, but they, like, there are people who you want to think would write a children's book. And, like, we've written five children's books. Like, that's so.
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Tana Mongeau
It's, like, kind of cool. I always see the one on my Explore page, which is. This is the most out of to touch ever. About to say, like, actually ever. But it's this book that's for kids, and it's like, A is for Audemars Piguet. B is for Birkin. Like, C is for Chanel. Like, D is for. And it's like this bougie children's book. And, like, it's little Fo. Like, V is for Van Cleef.
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Trisha Paytas
And, like, did you buy it?
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Tana Mongeau
No, I. I honestly should. I think it's so cute. But I was like, I want to do something like that. Like, that'd be so funny to do, like, a funny children's book.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I feel like that's what would be good. I feel like I'm not there yet. Okay, I do love that. But I do love something, like, with your teeth to be, like, the importance of it. Because as a child who didn't get proper dental care because of your parents, it could be something, like, for the parents and the kids to learn, like, you know, make sure you do this.
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Tana Mongeau
That is actually so true.
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Trisha Paytas
Brushing your teeth songs are my favorite because kids usually don't want to brush their teeth until they, like, watch something. But there's a Miss Rachel song where it's like, you wake up in the morning and it's quarter to one and you want to have a little fun. You brush your teeth and they sing it all the time, and they love it. Like, I feel like teeth things are just so important for kids, because that's so true.
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Tana Mongeau
Had, like, any of that been instilled in me, I would not be sitting here right now with all of the. You know what I mean? The things that I have. And it's so. That is something with my kids that I'll care about so much, is the dentist and insurance and all the things.
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Trisha Paytas
It'S free if you're under four.
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Tana Mongeau
Oh my.
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Trisha Paytas
We took Malibu and it was free. Maybe they stopped at four for you.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Vegas probably just doesn't actually have that at all. They're like, you can go work the tables at three if you to get that. That's got to be a California thing.
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Trisha Paytas
That is weird.
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Tana Mongeau
I know.
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Trisha Paytas
I remember like what do I owe you? And they're like, nothing. I was like, okay, that's crazy.
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Tana Mongeau
That's cute. I guess. Yeah. Cuz it's like just cleanings and stuff.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah. They can't use like drills on them or even like there's some fluoride. I don't even think they can use fluoride. I don't know what it's for. I don't think they can use the fancy stuff. I think they just like brush their teeth and blossom.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah, but that's cute. And that's good to just. That's the other thing too. I think that like I had such a fear for it too because I was so foreign to me. You know what I mean? Like if it was normalized, raised like, you know, that's. That is smart. Like the next generation I hope is more is loving going to the dentist. It's so self care coded.
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Trisha Paytas
I feel like. Yeah, like Coco Melon goes the dentist. So once they do that they're like, okay, we love this. Yeah, she does. Well, she wants to go back. She go to the dentist again.
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Tana Mongeau
Wait, that's everything in a year. Oh, that's cute. I saw them that video of Malibu and Elvis, by the way, sitting on this set with podcast mics.
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Trisha Paytas
It was right after you left. It was right after you left.
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Tana Mongeau
It was so, so cute.
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Trisha Paytas
They love it. I know I should have put the audio because she's like, elvis, sit down. I need to ask you a question. Like she was like asking the thing. It was like so cute. But she kept saying it over and over and I was like, Elvis was. I was like, let me just mute it because I don't know.
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Tana Mongeau
It's just funny. Yeah, but. I know, but it was so cute.
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Trisha Paytas
They love it. I know. They were like, they were. They like, like it's crazy because they obviously they're not watching us do this. So it's like funny how they know to sit here and hold a microphone. Yeah.
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Tana Mongeau
And like want to like play interview and stuff. Was such a star.
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Trisha Paytas
Like that was crazy. Yeah, it was so. It was so wild to see and.
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Tana Mongeau
Most Moses was because I brought up to Moses when I saw him. I was like that video of them here was so cute. And he was like. Yeah. And they just sit down and they do it like by like, like on their own.
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Trisha Paytas
On their own. It's like very. It's very bizarre, I guess, because it's like, weird because they don't watch us do the podcast. So I'm very, like, confused how they know.
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Tana Mongeau
I just. Yeah, I really don't know. I mean, but I guess they just. They know Mommy's a star.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
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Tana Mongeau
Are you nervous to get to the age where it's like, like, do you remember that video of Northwest Be like rolling down the window and being like, Kim Kardashian's in the car. Like, are you nervous to get to where they're like, my mom is Trisha Paytas.
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Trisha Paytas
Like, I mean, I feel like I'm not Kim Kardashian, but, like, that would be cool if they think I'm cool.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
I like, worry. Not worry. But like, like, I feel like the Sheen girls, you know what I mean? It's just like, not that they're. They did anything wrong like, you know, as kids, but like, I just feel like the parents. Right. Like Charlie and stuff is just like. Because. Have you seen their stuff?
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Tana Mongeau
Yes. All of it.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And it's just like, oh. Like you just are like being. Because Charlie is so public, you worry.
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Tana Mongeau
About like following them and impacting them and stuff. Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
Cuz I feel like people love to blame, like, just everything without knowing any facts. You know what I mean? Well, Charlie Sheen's. Their death or this is the reason why they're like this. Or Denise, you know, like there's just so many.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
Things that.
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Tana Mongeau
Have you been seeing them beef? Like the two daughters are beefing right now about the.
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Trisha Paytas
Allegedly. About the boyfriend. Boyfriend.
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Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
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Trisha Paytas
Is it real?
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Tana Mongeau
I actually, I don't know, but I. I love Sammy. She, Sheen and like, I just.
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Trisha Paytas
Who's accusing. Who's the accusatory one? Sammy Sheen is accusing the other sister of and the other sisters.
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Tana Mongeau
She just seems very honest. I don't. Like, I've seen her in person only a few times or more like Internet friends. But I just like, really feel for her and I feel like she's pretty honest. I don't know.
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Trisha Paytas
I know it's always. It's difficult because I feel like social media, like when you're so young, it's like, I get why people wanted to take it to social media, but then obviously, like me and my old age, like, oh my gosh, don't put up. But I get why. And it Just. But this makes everyone ready to judge you. And it's, like, not fair. And it's like, I don't know, it makes me awesome.
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Tana Mongeau
And, like, if your sisters, like, you're. You're gonna make up, like, you might make up. There's a very high chance you'll make up.
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Trisha Paytas
You'll make up. And then the whole world, like, just hates your sister because they think they, like, stole your ex boyfriend or something like that.
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Tana Mongeau
That was, like, literally what happened with Ashley and I were like. I always say one of my deepest regrets was ever taking our, like, you know what I mean? Us not agreeing to that Trix and Caicos podcast episode because, like, there was just. Just so much more to it and stuff. And like, I. Oh, my God.
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Trisha Paytas
It, like, so now people are like, yeah, I'm sure, like, people will hold.
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Tana Mongeau
On to some anecdotes from that story forever. And it, like, makes me so sad, you know?
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Trisha Paytas
That's true. Yeah, I guess that's just the Internet, but we've all done it. We've all put stuff out there. We're like, oh, shouldn't I have? That's like, the one lesson I learned older is just like, never talk bad about your partner to other people because then they have, like, some type of way. You know what I mean? And then also, yeah, just about anybody else.
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Tana Mongeau
It's so true. It's. It is so true.
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Trisha Paytas
Unless you're, like, totally done, you're just like, I hate this person.
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Tana Mongeau
But, yeah, that's different. Yeah, well, I liked that back in the day because it would keep me accountable.
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Trisha Paytas
That's why I always did it. I used to, like, expose people because I knew I'd just keep going back and, like, forgiving them. If I knew if I made a video on someone that meant they would, like, never see me again, they'd, like, literally block me. Every relationship does not flex. This is actually embarrassing. But every relationship I had has blocked me. You know, that's the only reason it ended is because I was just so crazy.
- [68:33]
Tana Mongeau
I got blocked a few times. I get that. You know what I mean?
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Trisha Paytas
Only a few. That's pretty good.
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Tana Mongeau
No, but like, me, I don't know. Every time it happens, though, I need that.
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Trisha Paytas
I need it. Well, no, no, I needed that, though.
- [68:44]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Like, to just cut off contact, honestly. Yeah. There's some people where I'm like, I wish you just blocked me and never talked to me again. It would have made it, like, so much easier.
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Trisha Paytas
Right, right, right.
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Tana Mongeau
Like, if anything, it's a blessing in disguise. I'VE never thought about that that way.
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Trisha Paytas
Use that block button.
- [68:56]
Tana Mongeau
Yes. Yeah. I was just talking to Ty last night about one year that I paid him to switch shoes with me at Coachella. And, like, he's not my shoe size. Like, he was shoving his foot. We're not that far off. We're like a size off.
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
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Tana Mongeau
So I was getting a shoe a size too big, and he was getting a shoe a size too, like, too small, and he wouldn't do it. And I was like, no, I'll give you 200. You have to do it right now.
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Trisha Paytas
And he did.
- [69:16]
Tana Mongeau
Yes. And he did it. And we were laughing about that last night because it's like, in reality, it's like, tanner, just go home and change your shoes and come back and keep your 200. But I didn't want to leave.
- [69:24]
Trisha Paytas
But then you had to walk. I mean, I'm not everybody. Coachella sounds like a little walking. True.
- [69:27]
Tana Mongeau
It would have been like 10, 000 steps. So, honestly, you know what? Ty came up.
- [69:31]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my. What are you wearing this year for shoes?
- [69:34]
Tana Mongeau
I don't know, but I'm so excited. I can't decide actually, for this Coachella if I want to be cool girl, dress, like, nor. You know what I mean, like, wear a sick outfit that I like, or if for Justin Bieber Day, if I literally want to have a purple fitted snapback on and like, like, the purple Justin Bieber, like, throwback, like, action, actually cosplay, like, I'm. That's how excited I am.
- [69:54]
Trisha Paytas
Justin Bieber cosplay with you. That sounds fun.
- [69:56]
Tana Mongeau
I'm begging.
- [69:57]
Trisha Paytas
I love the idea of, like, yeah, the purple one is cute.
- [70:00]
Tana Mongeau
The purple jacket over the white.
- [70:01]
Trisha Paytas
No, that's not.
- [70:02]
Tana Mongeau
It was before purpose. It was believed. Right. My world. No, no, no. But even that album cover is kind of purpley. Right? Like, he loves purple.
- [70:10]
Trisha Paytas
He loves purple. So does that Yasmin. It's his favorite.
- [70:12]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. And look at. We're so aligned. Let me shut. Time for the call.
- [70:20]
Trisha Paytas
We're so aligned.
- [70:21]
Caller
Hey, Trish and T. So I have a dream analysis question. I had a very abusive ex about or I escaped the relationship about 11 years ago. So very ancient. But it was very brutal where I would get, like, tied up and just really horrible things that I won't go into great detail in. But weirdly, afterwards. Well, normally afterwards I had bad nightmares about it, but more recently, in this last year, I've been having dreams that aren't nightmares about this person. I was just curious what your thoughts are on why I would be having dreams that aren't bad for someone that I despise. Yes, that. And I just wanted to tell you girls that I think you're a great inspiration for having hit your rock bottoms like so publicly and been able to come out the other side. And it's really beautiful to see. Thanks, guys.
- [71:23]
Tana Mongeau
I loved her. I loved her so much. Oh my God, I love you so much wherever you are. I love you so much. And thank you for being so, like, vulnerable with us and so kind to us. We love you.
- [71:36]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, that was.
- [71:36]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Do you, I like, relate to this actually very heavily.
- [71:39]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [71:40]
Tana Mongeau
Go. My dreams are like, nuts. I'm like, sometimes I feel like I'll wake up after sleeping for 12 hours and I'll be like, like, yes, I slept. But like I lived 412 lives in the time that I was asleep that I'm like exhausted. Like, I have such vivid dreams and I actually have dreams all the time about people. Like, my parents are in my dreams all the time. Like literally like one in every three dreams. And like, sometimes it will be like, sometimes they're bad and they're nightmares and stuff and whatever, but sometimes they're also like just there. Like I'm in my dreams and I'm like doing something with my mom. And it's like super weird for me because I'm. I'm like, I'll wake up and like, and just a lot of people, you know what I mean? But I don't know, I like, the body keeps the score, you know what I mean? Like, I think that certain formative things unfortunately stay in your subconscious forever. And I have to remind myself that a lot of it is. That's just fact, you know what I mean? Like, factually, things that have happened to you in your life stay in your subconscious forever and they manifest in your dreams. And that's like the God honest truth.
- [72:43]
Trisha Paytas
Truth.
- [72:43]
Tana Mongeau
And sometimes I will have dreams about people who are bad to me. And my takeaway almost. I don't know how to explain this. It's like I'll wake up and I almost want to go back to sleep and go into the dream because that's the only place for me that they're a good person. Do you know what I mean? Like, is in this dream. And like, I take it for that, I guess, you know what I mean? Like, if anything, I think that when my parents are like, my grandma, she passed. Like she'll show up in my dreams a lot, lot. And you know, like, that whole thing was very complicated. But I'll just be like, wow, like, they're showing up in my dream. Some people mean. Think it's a spiritual thing. Some people don't. You know what I mean? But, like, I think you just try to take it for that. And if it's really bothering you, I know there's lots of, like, therapies that actually can help you work through things to where, like, people aren't showing up in your dreams. But just never convince yourself that, like, oh, my God, I had this dream and my awful ex was in it, but he was so nice to me in this dream. Like, I should call him. That is not it. It doesn't mean that outside of your dreams that they are any different.
- [73:45]
Trisha Paytas
Okay, I think that's great advice. And I think what you said about you love that version of them in their dream. Maybe I am not a dream analysis. I've never dreamed like this, but I feel like maybe there is something to that where it's almost like taking away her fear of him or anxious anxiety of him. Because it's like, oh, there's like a. I remember this. Like, there's a happy side of him, whatever, in your dream. So maybe in a way it's like counteracting the monster in real life because I would assume you have some trauma and some. Some like, fear of him. And maybe this is a way of, like, your body trying to cope and.
- [74:15]
Tana Mongeau
Like, rationalize and just. And everything that you know. Even if you see a face on the street, your brain stores it. And like. Like, do you know all people that you see in your dreams? Like, even just random people, they are not random. You had to have seen them at least once in your life, whether on television or, like, in passing. Like, your mind cannot conjure, like, a fake human being. So even like the back characters in your dreams or someone that you've either passed on the trail street or like, seen on TV or something.
- [74:40]
Trisha Paytas
Like there's like a person that everyone has seen in their dream. I always see that on, like, Twitter. They'll be like, everyone has seen this person or everyone has been in this room in their dream or something.
- [74:47]
Tana Mongeau
There's a movie about that and it's. I think it's Steve Carell. I don't know what. It's where he starts showing up in everyone's dreams. So it makes him famous in real life and it's like Freddy Krueger, Nightmare on Elm Street. No, it's more of like a psychological thing where then it, like, makes him famous and then the whole world ends up hating him. Because everyone's having a night nightmare that he's like, what? And how it affects him. Like, it was. It's a really crazy movie with secret. And why do I think, like, Josh Richards is in the end of it? But, like, whatever. I digress.
- [75:15]
Trisha Paytas
Like Tick Tockers.
- [75:16]
Tana Mongeau
Yes. But it's a really good movie. But, yeah, I don't know. Your dreams are just manifestations of the things. And sometimes I definitely. Because I wake up, like, sometimes. You know what I mean? Very distraught about the things that happen in my dreams or just very confused. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, like, it's not something that I would. Would ever want or think to happen. Like, even if I do have a dream about an ex or something, and then I wake up and I'm like, wait, I'm happy here.
- [75:44]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [75:45]
Tana Mongeau
I like who I'm waking up next to. I'm happy here. I don't know why my mind's doing that.
- [75:48]
Trisha Paytas
Like, I wonder. Yeah. Is there a scientific reason of why we dream the way we dream?
- [75:53]
Tana Mongeau
There's a lot. A lot of people. It's both. I mean, yes, like, and there's a lot of psychology behind, like, dreaming. Like, even one, like a common dream that people have is losing their teeth. And, like, I obviously have that dream all the time because I think I've. Yes.
- [76:08]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, it's like, literal.
- [76:09]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, that's what I think. I have a little literal, like, mixed in with the psychology. But then the psychology behind losing your teeth in a dream is that change is happening. Major change is happening, like, in your life. And that's how your mind, like, personifies the change happening. Like, feeling like all your teeth are falling out and, like, you're like. You know what I mean? Like, versions of you are falling out or changes. Like, you know what I mean? That's how change, change. So, like, a lot of people also believe that, like, that just every little thing that happens in the dream, there's, like, psychology behind it. And it's. I. I've done, like. I've listened to a lot of podcasts about it. I'll, like, read about it. I'll research about it. Because that's how I had to, like, cope with how vivid and insane my dreams are. I had to know, like, why the was happening. So there's also that.
- [76:50]
Trisha Paytas
That is scary research.
- [76:51]
Tana Mongeau
Like, why am I having positive dreams of someone who was once my abuser? And get to the fact. Because the fact is helpful there, I think.
- [76:58]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, definitely.
- [76:59]
Tana Mongeau
To literally help you sleep at night, you know?
- [77:01]
Trisha Paytas
And with.
- [77:02]
Tana Mongeau
Did your chicken.
- [77:02]
Trisha Paytas
Did your chicken ever come. Your half chicken?
- [77:04]
Tana Mongeau
Oh, my. Oh, my. I have a rotisserie chicken waiting for me over here.
- [77:07]
Trisha Paytas
I was like, did you want to eat it?
- [77:08]
Tana Mongeau
No.
- [77:08]
Trisha Paytas
Wait, are you sure? Oh, my God.
- [77:09]
Tana Mongeau
You know, I can cold food it up.
- [77:11]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, yeah. So opposite in that.
- [77:13]
Tana Mongeau
Do we. Should we take our final girl Three calls, one episode.
- [77:17]
Trisha Paytas
We're so talented. That's crazy.
- [77:21]
Caller
Hi, Queens. My name's Renee. This is not a call for advice for sex, love, or dating. Although I love hearing you guys talk about that. But what this really is about is for Christmas, my husband got me some Just Tris. Just Trish pajamas. And I'm literally obsessed. And you guys have no idea. We actually watched Hamilton. I. I literally put on the whole pajama bottoms with a really nice tank top. And I was like, let's watch Hamilton right now. So that's what we did. But as I was watching Hamilton, I was sitting there and I was like, why don't these have their own clothing line? Like, hello. So I was just wondering if, like, that was in the works at all because the quality is amazing. Everyone needs to get some of the pajamas and you guys need to make some more. I want cheetah print, not Loveline pajama pants. I want it all. I want. I want. I want all the merch. So what's the tea? Love you. Bye.
- [78:26]
Trisha Paytas
We want it too, girl.
- [78:27]
Tana Mongeau
We do want it.
- [78:28]
Trisha Paytas
As you know, I was at the freaking OBB media. I can have that merch. Like, I just want merch of everything. Like, I love. I love merch too. I don't know what it is with me. I've just had. I won't say the worst luck, cuz I love that you love the quality. Thank you. Of that. They are great quality.
- [78:40]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
- [78:41]
Trisha Paytas
The problem is, I talk about this on my podcast all the time. Is like my first hoodie took like two years to get. The pajama pants took three years in the making. Like China and the way I'm dealing with it. And I'm also have a middle person. So I'm not really dealing with China directly. So it's like a middle person.
- [78:52]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
- [78:53]
Trisha Paytas
It's really like, I really make like no money, which is like, fine. It's just a lot of work for like.
- [78:57]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Not like profiting.
- [78:58]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And then if you find something that if you find a company here, they take such a high percentage and you're still not making money. And then the quality is not as good. Like, it's just hard. I'm so, like, picky with. Yeah. Quality.
- [79:08]
Tana Mongeau
And we have been having a lot of these conversations off camera and I think that we'll get to a point where we like, can do something for the girls.
- [79:15]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
- [79:16]
Tana Mongeau
Especially if we're like in a tour and stuff. You know what I mean? We want to be able to. Able to do that. And we. We definitely will, honestly. But I.
- [79:23]
Trisha Paytas
The quality.
- [79:24]
Tana Mongeau
I appreciate what you're saying because I think that even like just over my career, there was the Fanjoy eras and I had different eras before that. I had other eras of merch and spreadshirt. Yes. And like the back end. This is a very back end of like what we do conversation, I guess. But to give people insight into the back end, a lot of these merch companies do not have good interest in mind. You know what I mean? They. The quality isn't good or the time isn't good or the customer service isn't good or the you to find something that is a medium where, you know what I mean, you can pay to make it and maybe like make a couple dollars and stuff is actually very hard. So I think that's kind of where we've been at with not Loveline, but I am manifesting cheetah pajamas. I am 100%.
- [80:08]
Trisha Paytas
I would love. And like, I should clarify something about the money, like, for instance, to our merch. Most bands will say make all their money on merch. Like mine is not because one, they give me minimal. I like it. It's cute. They give me minimal, but they also take a lot because it's. It's not. It's, you know, it's the venue and it's the people who make it. And there people are just. The middleman is where it sucks you out. Right. If you can just find someone directly to help you. But it's. It's really.
- [80:29]
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
- [80:30]
Trisha Paytas
I've lost money on Sad Boy. I've lost money on, like everything. But I. I do love making. I love it. Like, I'm telling you, just for stuff. Like, I really. If there's really like no profit by the time you pay for the shipping out, like, there's really not. But I do love to make it. I'm down for not Loveline too, because that's like. Yeah, a leopard hoodie.
- [80:46]
Tana Mongeau
Just everything. Leopard. I honestly, this call has made me want to, like, prioritize looking into some better options because we do need. I'm. I'm wearing Hollister and Depop right now. I should be in some not Loveline pajamas.
- [80:59]
Trisha Paytas
Deep. I know we Wear pajamas, all that. No, I. We could make some cute pajamas.
- [81:03]
Tana Mongeau
And we need. We need to make a pajama set for the girlies. So maybe skims.
- [81:06]
Trisha Paytas
Call us. We collab with skims.
- [81:07]
Tana Mongeau
Skims. Now begging, Hagging. Hell, begging, begging.
- [81:12]
Trisha Paytas
We need a pajama club. Because all I can think of is, like, skims everything. But we really should have embedded skims. That should have been our.
- [81:19]
Tana Mongeau
I know.
- [81:20]
Trisha Paytas
I like this. This is all Hollister.
- [81:22]
Tana Mongeau
These are Hollister. I bought this on Depop. I kind of got scammed because in the photo, the shirt was baby blue.
- [81:26]
Trisha Paytas
Oh.
- [81:27]
Tana Mongeau
Like, it still said, life is better blonde. But the shirt was baby blue. And I was. And baby blue is my favorite color. So I was very excited for it to show up. And, like, I don't really like, Like a. Like, mauve on me, but also, I love it actually.
- [81:39]
Trisha Paytas
I was gonna say it actually looks really pretty this sweet. You look very like Y2K, Elwood.
- [81:43]
Tana Mongeau
I've been, like, really just re. Entering, like, my Y2K obsession, and I get to like it. I get to bring it out here because. Look at these on the back.
- [81:50]
Trisha Paytas
Wait. Oh, is it on the butt?
- [81:52]
Tana Mongeau
Like, it says love on the butt.
- [81:53]
Trisha Paytas
Oh, I love. These are my favorite things. I think mine says just on the butt of my pajama pants. I love a butt. Like, yes, like, all of it. It's so good.
- [82:00]
Tana Mongeau
And I'm just. I get to exhaust my Y2K love here. And I'm manifesting that we. We make a cute little. A cute little knot. Love line drop. I'm not giving up on it.
- [82:08]
Trisha Paytas
I'm not even. I have, like, lots of different, like, ways to go if we want to explore it. Yeah, but I always, like, would come to you. And I'm like, well, we can do this, but neither one of us will make it. I just never want to be. Because we split everything. So I never want to be, like, shady and be like, well, you get.
- [82:21]
Tana Mongeau
No, maybe we just do it for the girls.
- [82:23]
Trisha Paytas
I think that's what it's gotta be. That's.
- [82:24]
Tana Mongeau
We gotta do it for the girls and the gays.
- [82:26]
Trisha Paytas
If you're fine with it.
- [82:26]
Tana Mongeau
I'm fine. Of course. I think that all of us, especially. Because what I'm a imagining is when and if we do our shows, the idea of everyone in the room in cheetah pajamas sounds like, just, like, incredible.
- [82:38]
Trisha Paytas
That'd be so cute.
- [82:39]
Tana Mongeau
You know what I mean? Or just something.
- [82:40]
Trisha Paytas
I love that. Wearing the exact same thing.
- [82:42]
Tana Mongeau
Yes. Like, how fun would that be? Like, if we gave a dress code like a slumber party or something, you know. What was the Girls Night in tour? We always talk about Girls Night In.
- [82:51]
Trisha Paytas
That's our tour.
- [82:52]
Tana Mongeau
Literally. Literally. But we love you guys and thank you for creating all the opportunities for us and all the different.
- [82:57]
Trisha Paytas
Oh my gosh.
- [82:58]
Tana Mongeau
No.
- [82:58]
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I feel like we're so aligned on so many ways. We're both book girlies and I'm very excited about that.
- [83:03]
Tana Mongeau
And like, I can't believe. I just can't believe that you're covered.
- [83:08]
Trisha Paytas
You have a 30 chapter book. I'm like, oh my God.
- [83:10]
Tana Mongeau
But I don't have a title yet and I don't have a cover. But that part you're good at.
- [83:14]
Trisha Paytas
That's easy for you.
- [83:15]
Tana Mongeau
But that is like, that's unbeatable. I think I'm manifesting that that's going to go to the moon. I know it is. I actually just undoubtedly thanks yours too.
- [83:24]
Trisha Paytas
I'm very excited.
- [83:25]
Tana Mongeau
This is a great little episode. Some yap, some calls and we're going to film another one. And another one. And another one.
- [83:30]
Trisha Paytas
I was, I was so happy to eat. Well, I know you. All right.
- [83:32]
Tana Mongeau
We could up some something.
- [83:35]
Trisha Paytas
Why up some tempe nuggets before this? I was saying that was a good idea. Okay.
- [83:39]
Tana Mongeau
I'm always down. Love you guys.
- [83:43]
Trisha Paytas
Bye.