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A
I was in over my head a little bit. Like, I liked the idea. Also, you can't take a brand deal if you're running for Congress. Sorry. Arby's Dominoes. Like, I need. I need that coin. You know what I mean? Like, who's the best person you met at Coachella? Who's the worst person you met at Coachella?
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B
We were just having a technical difficulty on a microphone. I'm talking into it. It's full static. We can't get it to work. We're debating replacing it. Trisha picks up the mic. It's flawlessly working. She's healing electronics in 2020.
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A
It's literally just delicately it. You're like, I do.
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B
I think the reason I have the tape here is because of you. Cuz you. You hold it down here and you mess up. Moses is now letting me know that he has taped the mic up because of the way I hold it. I'm going to put spikes here. Yes, Moses, you're everything. That's very sweet of you.
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A
Okay, so hold this microphone up maybe.
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B
Okay. Yeah. Cuz I do like to, like, fidget with the bottom of it. That's my bad.
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A
That's also just.
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B
I need to get one of those little kid, like, fidget spinners for my other hand.
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A
You're just out. Well, you're good now.
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B
I'm good. I'm okay.
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A
We should just get an extra one for backup just in case one day.
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B
We have an extra one.
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A
Oh.
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B
He's like, but she's gonna it up no matter what.
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A
We'll try our best. Thank you. Sorry. We'll let you know. Okay.
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B
Sorry about the taping.
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A
He's like, wait, no, no. Now that one's gonna be ruined.
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B
No. Okay. I'm not gonna do the bottom.
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A
You're fine. I'm gonna be good or it's fine. I mean. Okay, we're back.
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B
Yeah, we're back.
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A
We're like. The energy is so good. It's like, kevin, steady.
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B
No, but honestly, I think the energy is so good that we up the electronics like we're. We're vibrating so high.
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A
That's true. That's happened before. Where? Super high.
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B
Yeah, with like, retrogrades and stuff. How like electronics, like up and like ghosts.
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A
Yeah. Like spirits will like up your electronics and like, get. Yeah, one time I had a really high vibration meditation and yeah. Everything started, like, buzzing. Like buzzing. And it was crazy.
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B
That is like. Do you realize how crazy that is that like, what you're saying, like vibration, but that's just like, what you vibrate on like, you like, you vibrate on such a high frequency that you're, you have the ability to up like a television.
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A
Yeah, well, save these microphones.
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B
I think that's just me. I think it's different.
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A
Your physical being is.
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B
That is so funny, Trisha. I can't even talk about anything else other than congress.
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A
Like, oh my God, yes.
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B
You know that I'm like an avid. The ovon listener and. I know, I know, but I'm. I'm laying in bed, I'm dozing off and I almost like in taking that type of media before I sleep because it has nothing to do with like my world. I guess it's like it's a completely different world world that's like UFC and weird whatever and like I'll intake that to fall asleep because if I listen to like a podcast that has to do with this world, it'll like have my wheels spinning and like I won't fall asleep. So I'm listening to it. I'm about to enter REM and out of Theon's mouth, I hear Trisha Paytas. My eyes open. I sit up in the bed. I'm like, what? I. I turned to Moa. Mokoa goes, you're not going to fall asleep. I go, no play made it to like the. Do you like, were you just kind of posting a fun video and having no idea it would make it?
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A
Yeah, and that's what, that's what I was saying. It like scares me. Like I didn't, I didn't do any follow ups. Immediately I'm like, you know when you post a bunch of TikToks, like hi to TikTok. So I just start posting because I'm like, I just don't want that TikTok to be the last one. Because like, yeah, when it makes it to the wrong side of like the Internet or anything, even just like the.
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B
Mainframe, like when it makes it to like mainstream media immediately I'm just like.
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A
Because, because I did say it. Like when I first said it, I was like, this could be a good idea. And then as soon as like went to like election Twitter and so I was like, absolutely not. Because like, no, absolutely not. I just can't. One, it's like, you know, I don't need all my past drug up again. I also, I don't know what I'm like doing completely. And I just feel I was in over my head a little bit. Like I liked the idea also. You can't take a brand deal if you're running for Congress. Sorry. Arby's dominoes. I need that coin. You know what I mean?
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B
Like, that is so funny because you really, like, you didn't have me until the brand deal thing. I'm the devil's advocate here, where I was imagining myself as like the first lady or like, whatever it is starting my campaign. Melania, behind you. Like, scared. And I'm like, no, I did.
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A
I reached out to like, Michelle Obama because we have the same platform as far as like, healthier lunch is for kids. And I didn't know that was like, like a platform that she stood for. Because that's like one of my goals too, is like.
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B
I remember I was so pissed in school when we just had sweet potatoes all of a sudden.
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A
Wait, it happened while you were in school? Yeah.
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B
Or like right around that time. Right? Really?
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A
Yeah. Oh, so you were a direct, but you didn't love it.
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B
Well, just because obviously as a kid, you want like the nacho cheese back. You know what I mean? But now I can look back and see obviously she was doing amazing.
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A
They, like retracted that program.
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B
No way. Yes.
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A
I was like, we need that back because I've been seeing these school lunches around here too. And I was just like, those pizza slabs look like they don't frozen for.
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B
A minute 3D printed food.
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A
Oh. I was like, yeah, it was so toxics in those. So I was like, anyways, I, like, I had reached out to. I was like, reaching out to all these people and like, yeah, I was like, with you too. I was kind of like, okay. But I just thought like, just the amount of like, hate and I'm just like in my piece era that I was like, let me did. Were they nice? Because I just heard about at the end of gesture today, literally at the very like, last two minutes of our two hour podcast, Oscar's like, oh, Theo von Menji. I was like, absolutely nothing I heard was rude.
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B
It was Trevor Wallace, who also is kind of like very Internet, like, tapped in, and he was just like, he said nice things. I think that he. Theo was just confused like that. Just like, what do you. Because I think he took it very seriously.
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A
Right?
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B
Just confused, but it wasn't rude. If I heard anything rude, obviously I would have been like, sitting up, freaking out. But I was also dozing off and I turned it off because I was like, I. I won't fall asleep. It was like 3am and I was like, if they keep talking about any of this, like, I won't fall asleep.
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A
Yeah, yeah, they. I just Saw they played like a, like a minute clip today and he said something about. They started talking about our kids names. Like, I'm over it. Like, I do not need men.
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B
That is so funny. Why is it always like, I swear to God, you could see Save someone from a burning building tomorrow and the news headline would be like, trisha Paytas, mother of Malibu Elvis and Aquaman. How crazy are those names? Save someone from a burning building.
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A
It's not that far. Yeah, like, wait, let's get to, like, my platform. Like, what I'm going to be speaking on and stuff. Yeah, I would really love to. Like, I would really love to. I think maybe in like 10 years if I win the lottery and I don't need those brand deals and I just don't care about, like, why don't I think this is true? Like, because. Because my agent was helping me say, oh, if you really want, we can try. And then she's like, also, you can't be like, on a TV show if you're in the House of Representatives. But it's so crazy because then we.
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B
Have this man as our president who, like, that's it. Like, what do you actually mean that there's even still rules at all? Like, let's have the Arby's deal and let her run for Congress. We need help. I really just think you could do it. I think it would be, like, such a revolution.
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A
I think so. I think so, too. I think it's just like, again, and it's like, weird because, like, my area too, like, has, like an opening where I could run and everything. Like, it was. It was a glimmer of possibility, but then it just gets too viral and it gets to the wrong place and then people.
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B
That is scary. People are nasty.
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A
Yeah. And I'm like, I love my bubble. And then when it gets outside the bubble and people just go so hardcore.
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B
It is so true.
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A
Bring up, like, every little thing that you've ever done in your life. I was like, I do this at all. Yeah.
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B
That is like the scary. That's so sad, though, the second that. Because, like, if you think about it, the basis of what you were saying was like, kids should eat better. And then people are like, put in two, 2007. You, like, and it's like, damn, Can a person grow and want better for the world?
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A
Oh, yeah. For the majority of people. No.
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B
And you. I know, but. And you have the impact and you have the conversion rate, like, the amount of people who would genuinely go and, like, vote for you. Which I just think Is really cool. But yeah, I get it. It's over. It's overwhelming and you're killing it in what you're doing.
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A
Yeah, yeah, maybe. Because I think Sunny Bono was in the House of Representatives when he passed away. He was like 52 for California. So I think it's like possible. I think I'm not quite there yet either financially and age wise, but maybe in like 10 years I'll be there. But.
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B
And like that. That also doesn't mean that you can't do things for the greater good still. You know what I mean?
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A
Yes.
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B
I think that I really want this to be a philanthropic year, you know what I mean? For the both of us.
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A
Just like, oh, number one priority. Yeah, for sure. I went to In N Out today and they're little like drive through menu things that you can eat in your car. Was like, to stop human sex trafficking. And there's like a little QR codes we talked about today. I was like, I literally donated this day on the QR code at the in and out and the in and out. In and out. Like CEO sent me an email just now and he's just like, hey, can we have a phone call discussing this? And I was like, oh my gosh. Okay. In and out CEO.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It was like, yeah, he's like, can we ask why you were compelled to donate, you know, whatever amount it was? And I was just like, oh, work. I was like, well, I saw your like ad on the in and out thing and I was like, even their buttons in and out are like, help us and trafficking.
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B
And I was really cool.
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A
How do we do this? And so I was like, very excited because, yeah, for me, I was like, I try to help and I like, don't know where to start.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But I do love a GoFundMe. I do love a meal train. And I do love like In n Out charity.
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B
That's. That is cool. And we just have so many girls and gays like just that are so passionate about the same thing. So it's. I'm really excited for that to be like a big part of this year.
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A
Yeah, we should do something cool. We should do like trying to think what would be like a cool thing, like a charity event.
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B
Like even like if with our potential live shows we've been talking about doing that. I'm so excited. Not Love Live. Oh my God.
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A
That was. That looks like Not Love Live too. Oh my God. You. You ate that one. That was good.
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B
With Not Love Live, we could, we could do something, you know, for sure.
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A
You have to raise money. I always thought about that too. You know how like, mega churches go around and they like, collect like a basket of money.
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B
Should we just start a mega church?
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A
Yeah, the church of Tanna and Trish. Everyone donate to help a trans life. You know what I mean?
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B
Everything.
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A
Yeah, I think we definitely should wait.
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B
And I really. I had a psychic last year tell me at the beginning of last year that I would like, fall into a lot of philanthropy and feel so compelled to do it. And I think I was just in a very negative, like, burnt out state. And like, you know how you can get when you're in a negative state. It's just like the world is horrible and like, I can't help and there's nothing I can do. And across 20, 25, I completely, like, there's so much I can do. Like, my mindset changed so much in that way.
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A
And like, because you were like, healed, I think you have to like fully heal yourself before you can like, help others.
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B
It's like the max and believe in yourself. You know what I mean? Like, my self belief was so low that I was like, what change can I really make? What impact? And now I'm oh, my God, no. Like, I want to do so much this year.
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A
Tana for Congress.
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B
Yes.
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A
No, that's why it started too, because I was like, you know what it started from? It did stem from. There was an influencer who's been an influencer since like 14. The day she turned 18, she joined. Only she said she made like $5 million the first day. And I was just like. My first thought was like, the perverts, like, just waiting for. My second thought was like, oh, like 18. And I really was like, I really wish there was something I could do to make sex work. Like, like illegal until you're 25, 100, like, like, it can be great. 18. Me at 18. I was a stripper. I was doing everything under the sun for a dollar. And like PTSD to the extreme.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I found that out so much later in life, like even in like 30, like five or something, that I was like, oh my gosh, like my night sweats are from that. You know what I mean? So not everyone's like that, but I have a feeling, I think it was like Lana Rose who's trying to get all her videos down. I think Riley Reed has talked about it. And I'm like, not everyone, but most people regret their sex work. And they were older, but 18. I was like, it is so true.
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B
And just the coercion like in this industry and just the things that you end up doing for the money because your frontal lobe has not developed yet. Like it just, it is sad and scary. I'm definitely also like flipping to that. Like I, I think that I will not be having that website much longer in this life and I'm finally ready to.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Move on.
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A
Like to people who want to do it. Like, you know, do it for sure. I don't definitely, I'm not the person to judge but like.
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No, but I, I do crazy get that like, you know, it is just like as you get older and you reflect back on it, it's like, it's just a lot more layered and then you see the people who are doing pouring their whole lives into it and their frontal lobes haven't developed and you start to think like, I hope that you look back at this with nothing but positivity, but there's a chance that you won't. And that's, you know, scary.
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Yeah.
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And it's becoming, even with Lil Tay and so many people, it's become this 18th birthday trend. And I think societally it's so regressive.
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A
No. Yeah. I think you shouldn't even be considered an adult until you're 20 because all this whole bullshit. Well, I met her when she was 19. It's like, that's a teen. That's a teen. You know, and it's like so my whole stance was like, I can't do anything about it. And then I was like, you know what? I can do something about it. That's why I was like thinking about running for Congress. And then I was like, that could because you can. But there are ways to present a bill without having to be in the House of Representatives. So I like circling around that too. Where you can still get a bill.
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B
I think that's really cool that you're like just looking at ways to make a change. But I also understand obviously the congress thing, I was just excited to like be your first lady and like have cute outfits.
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A
No, everyone was excited. We were campaign. We're thinking of slogans, we were thinking of bumper stickers. Like it was short lived and it was like literally the next day when it was like on Fox News. I'm like, no, no, no, I don't want this. I don't want this.
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B
Like I really know it went there. Yeah.
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A
Like everything. I was just like, let me just like not look at anything.
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B
The haters like the. Yeah, that's a lot for your piece. It's a lot for your mental State.
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Yes, exactly that part. Because I was like, all right, well.
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B
Yeah, but I lived for it. I'm not gonna lie.
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A
I lived for the most short lived front. How about you? You've been literally living your best life in Hawaii.
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B
It's been. It was really great. You're so sweet. I swear though, it's the spray tan blowout. My nails, because I was giving. I was really like. But like when it gets to day 30 and you haven't seen yourself like done up and like in a proper outfit with like the hair, whatever. Like it got to me this time. I was like, get me home. I need to be LA appied really quick.
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But you're still Hawaii with like low makeup, like, you know, no lashes, like you're giving. Gorgeous.
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B
It is like I am, you know, just trying to be more natural and just embrace. I say that with like new lip filler, but I mean less glam and.
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A
Just, you know, it's baby steps for sure. No, you look at. We have like the same hair. I think we just got like a blowout. The blonde.
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B
You're so blonde though. I'm so jealous.
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A
I just got it done yesterday. But I was, I was having a little rootage and then you went to the dentist. Can you talk about her? No, not yet. Um, you don't have to.
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B
I'm like, I literally. I'm going Shane Dawson on these hoes. Okay. I'm doing something.
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A
A little documentary.
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B
Yes. Like I'm doing a little bit of that right now. We shot for it today. Like I am. Oh.
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A
Like you have the camera crew and.
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B
Not a crew, a person, but very Shane Dawson style in the regard that it is still a YouTube video.
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A
Oh my God. But I tell it. It's like Netflix. But I mean everyone has a documentary now. Everyone. It's true.
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B
But I'm like, damn. Is that what it's about? Just my wonky teeth. I guess there. Is there something to be said? It's just. Oh my God. It is just like sucks. We already talked about it. You know what I mean? Just like.
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A
Was this your first day there?
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B
No, I went there before but I went back today and just still seeing those X rays and photos of my is. It's fierce.
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A
Which is crazy cuz I'm like injured. They look so beautiful.
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B
You're so sweet. Just up close. It's just there's a lot wrong and we're going to fix it. Honestly, my main fear right now is just being sedated. I don't like to go under.
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A
Oh, really?
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B
Yeah, I Don't know. I think it's like. I mean, we all saw me on alcohol and drugs for a very long time, and I am just certifiably insane. So the giving up the control, you know, just like. And coming out of it and like, I can't even watch other people's wisdom teeth videos. Like, when they come out of those, I like them. I like. I don't know why. Like, knowing that they don't want to be saying and doing those things.
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A
Right. Why are you filming them?
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B
Yeah, like, gives me so much anxiety because if it's me, it's like, oh, my God. I'm literally having just a bodyguard take me. Like, no Makoa, no one. I can't have any see me like that. Like I'm insane.
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A
Something Mo would probably be like, okay with it. Like, whatever. I was saying this to him last night.
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B
I was like, what if I, like, broke up with you?
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A
Well, because you're under a sedation, so, like, you wouldn't mean it.
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B
Well, yeah, I definitely wouldn't mean it.
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A
But I guess it means, like, underlying, right? It's not like he's gonna leave. He's like, while you broke up with me when you were.
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B
Yeah, that's true. That is true. I don't know. It just like, freaks me out and like, not remembering, especially now, I think as a sober person, like. Like, I love the being so present. So they're like, idea of not doing that. I don't know though. But I am excited to have newer teeth that. New teeth that stay in my head. That's all I know.
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A
How long is the process?
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B
Yank them out. I have to get a bunch of surgery on my gums because my gums are super up from them being kind of jammed into them, like, which sucks. And then I have temporary teeth for two weeks, and then I get the real ones put in afterwards. So two surgeries and it's like my fifth time. I mean, I know what it entails. I'm just hoping and praying that this is the last for a while and that they stay too, because they might shift a lot. Your teeth? Yes, because I don't have. Mine were shaved down so little that, like, I don't.
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A
Teeth are so scary. Like, I didn't go for like 10 or 12 years to the dentist. And then I saw someone talking about how, like. Like, someone died of, like, their brain aneurysm because their teeth had, like a leak, a hole in it or something.
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B
Oh, my God.
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A
I'm not trying to scare you, but that was me. No, that's like. I remember I put Crest whitening strips on and, like, I always used to use them. No sensitivity. And then I put them on, like, maybe like last year before I got all my dental work done. I guess it was two years ago now. And it, like, shocked me. Like, it gave me, like an electric shock.
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B
And I was like, feel it in your belly button. I swear to God.
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A
Yeah. So I was like. Like, it's an extreme case that someone died and maybe it's not teeth related, but I just was, like, scared enough that I was like. Because I would have never gone to a dentist my entire life. No.
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B
And they're. They're so. That they're foundation of so much. You need your teeth in your mouth. And that's why I want to, like, film it all, just to, like, let people know that altering them is not as light as a lot of people make it seem. People get veneers, you know, like a latte, and it's just. It's not. I think it's not the case.
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A
I feel like that's a really good message too. Especially I feel like going through so much bad in life, like, and being public about it is a good, like, poster child for something to be like, yeah, you know what? Like, I won't. You know what I mean? Because it, like, deters you. I wish people would have done. Talked about, like, breast implant, like, illness making them sick before I got mine, like, realizing there's toxic objects in you. It's like, what the I thinking. Yeah.
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B
The 2000s and, like 2010s and stuff were just so. Like, all these things were so much newer. And now we're in this place where there's a million other people are injecting fat into their breasts, people are injecting collagen, building things. People are getting composite bonding on their teeth. And, like, at that time, it was kind of like, you get a boob job or you get veneers or you shut the.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, you know what I mean? Like, if there wasn't so many other solutions, but people still market those things as, like, the be all, end all. I don't know, you know?
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A
Yeah, that's why. Yeah. That's why the education is important because so many people still be getting those New Years. If you could go back in time, would you. Thank you so much to Tinder for sponsoring today's episode. I'm not love lying. We love you, Tinder. Thanks for coming back.
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A
I love it. Thank you, Tinder.
- [19:40]
B
I would do a lot more research and I would be more. You know what I mean? Maybe don't shave them down so much. Maybe don't, like, you know, like, just. I would, I would have been so much more present in what I was doing and where I was doing it and just what the after effects could look like if gone negative. Like, I think I just was seeing every influencer kind of just go get them. And that's what I did. So, I mean, how old were you? I was 18. Oh, 19.
- [20:07]
A
Teens is still a teen. Like you're an adult and stuff. But damn, that's still. So, yeah, I think that with, like, body modification too. And I think, yeah, tattoos and like plastic surgery, like, for anyone. I just think it's like, just wait.
- [20:21]
B
Yes. Like, you know, I. I feel like my brain was not in a place to make any body modification decisions until I was like 22.
- [20:27]
A
Right, right.
- [20:28]
B
You know what I mean?
- [20:29]
A
Fully knew if you liked something or didn't like something.
- [20:31]
B
Yeah. And still I was lost. But I mean, I don't know. 18 is just scary. 18 is like you were 17 a couple weeks ago. Like, you know what I mean?
- [20:38]
A
Like, it's like she just turned 18. I was like, well, she was 17 and. Yeah, I feel that way, too. I mean, I was like, in my 20s, so I'm not even talking to my 30s. Like, when we talked about the other. The adult website, I was just like, I was my 30s, and I have, like, deep regret for it. And I'm like, what the think? Like, I wish I wouldn't have done that. So I think, yeah, it doesn't matter age.
- [20:56]
B
It's also the glorification of that, like, gets you. It's like, I can make a lot of money.
- [21:00]
A
Yeah.
- [21:00]
B
You know, or I can try to. Or I can.
- [21:02]
A
Like, someone said they made, like, $83 million, and I was like, that. That's so insane. But there's nothing. There is no amount of money that would get me to ever do that again. Like, as soon as you have 83 million. I would. Absolutely not. Like, just never. Because, like, again, just, like, the terror. The. I have such, like, weird, like, guilt over. And it's not even like, I'm super. I'm not like, I'm, like, Christian, wholesome. Nothing like that. It's just like this weird, like, deep shame I have, which is, like, not the case for everyone, but I do. And it's. It has nothing to, like, religion or anything. Clearly I'm not, like, religious, but. But it's like. I don't know, it's like a weird, shameful thing. And it's like. And then from when I was, like, 18, doing sex work, I don't know. It's on my mind. Heavily.
- [21:38]
B
It makes me so sad because, like, everything that you ever did led you to right here. And when I look at you, it's with nothing but admiration. But I understand that. It's a self thing, you know?
- [21:47]
A
Yeah. I would try to look. Everything is like a step, a journey to my. Where I meant to be. But that PTSD is real.
- [21:52]
B
No, it really is. You can't stop it.
- [21:54]
A
You're just, like, shaking and you're just, like, stopping it. But, yeah. Anyways, back to positivity. Hawaii for New Year's Eve.
- [22:00]
B
Yes, I was. It was so sweet.
- [22:02]
A
Did you go to Grand Leia? Is that where you were? Yes. I love that you always go there. That's very Adam Sandler coated and I just love it.
- [22:08]
B
Again, I saw him. I didn't even tell you that I saw him. Can we talk about it?
- [22:13]
A
Yes, please. Yes.
- [22:15]
B
Way.
- [22:16]
A
I'm so excited for it. You smell so good, by the way. What did you just.
- [22:18]
B
I have 19 perfumes on, so I don't smell like spray tan.
- [22:22]
A
He's like a perfume store. I love it. It smells so good right now because.
- [22:26]
B
I smelled the spray tan. I was like, I can't bring this over.
- [22:28]
A
So did you tan for something or did you.
- [22:29]
B
I need to shower it off, to be honest with you. It's, like, too dark right now.
- [22:33]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [22:33]
B
But where do you go? I go guy. Cory is my guy. He's you Y. And he's like the sweetest angel.
- [22:39]
A
I go to sugar and Bronze, and they do, like, beets.
- [22:41]
B
I used to go there for the sugaring, and I'm about to. Sugaring, like, the waxing. Like, the other half of there. I would have them. I'm about to get back into that waxing. My armpits, but no one cares.
- [22:50]
A
Yes, I know. Mine I can never get.
- [22:52]
B
We could go together, though. I'll get sugar. Do you get bronze?
- [22:55]
A
I didn't put the two together, but okay. So where did you see.
- [23:00]
B
So a couple days before, I been in Hawaii. And I know he loves Maui. Okay. And I. I'm going to try not to sound like a murderer across this, but it is what it. And I. I'm not a murderer. I love him so much. What?
- [23:13]
A
Clearly stated. Clearly stated.
- [23:15]
B
Fighting myself. Shut up.
- [23:19]
A
Everyone's missed you. The Internet has missed you. You haven't done a podcast in 2026, have you?
- [23:24]
B
I have not done it, but I have not done a pot. This is the first podcast I'm doing.
- [23:29]
A
I'm honored because your energy is so good and I'm like, the God. The podcast world just, like, loves you because, like, when you were gone and you were doing all those hot topics, I like, was like, we talked about this on Just Church. I was just like, tana, why'd you stop that podcast girl? Like, you love to talk.
- [23:40]
B
I love Isabelle. Isabelle was making so much fun of me because any camera I saw, like, literally, I could have walked past a ring camera, ring camera, doorbell, and I'd be like. And check out this halter top situation. Like, I. I do miss podcasting, and it's very obvious.
- [23:54]
A
You're so good at it and your excitement, too.
- [23:56]
B
I'm also. I am. I say this every year, but this might be the year I really do take a page from your book and your advice and try to just. Just focus on this and focus on things I really want to do.
- [24:09]
A
And focus on yourself.
- [24:10]
B
Focus on myself.
- [24:11]
A
Doing everyone else's podcast, which I love, but also.
- [24:13]
B
Yes, exactly. Just my dreams and my things and be a little more selective. We'll see. We'll See, I can't make that promise yet. But you know me, I just fold and do all the podcasts.
- [24:23]
A
But, yeah, yeah, but I feel like your year. You came in with such excitement. I don't even know what your year looks like, but I am like, wow, I feel like something.
- [24:29]
B
This is, I think, with us, I think just with everything. I. 2025 was, like, a very emotionally hard year for me. Like, it was honestly, like. And I hate saying this when having money and fame, because to say a year of your life is hard when so many people. It was so much harder. You know what I mean? And I know that comparison. You're not supposed to do that. But at the same time, 2025 was a year of people not even being able to feed their children.
- [24:53]
A
Yeah.
- [24:53]
B
So for me to sit and say, like, it was one of the hardest years of my life, it's just like, I understand that it's all in retrospect. I'm so blessed. But it was. It was a lot of just figuring myself out, feeling very lost, feeling very burnt out, feeling very unfulfilled is the wrong word. But just, like, I don't know, like, I wanted to do different things and more and kind of like, almost like a crab who was, like. Had outgrown its previous shell and was, like, naked, kind of looking around for the new shell. You know what I mean?
- [25:19]
A
Like an actual crab on the beach.
- [25:20]
B
Yes. And I spent a lot of. I spent a lot of 2025, like, romanticizing this year. So I'm just. I'm so excited.
- [25:27]
A
This is your year. Okay, so back to Adam Sandler.
- [25:30]
B
So know Adam, our guy.
- [25:31]
A
Yeah.
- [25:32]
B
I know that he comes to Maui a lot. Like, he just. People and everyone in Maui has a story. Okay? All of the boys, like, I was playing basketball, or I was doing construction on this house, or I was doing this. And he drove by and he. Whatever. And we get there, and I'm just. I'm always joking when I'm there. I'm like, what if he's there? I like, people know, the grocery stores. He loves it. Like, everyone on the island, like, kind of talks about it and, like, knows. And Moko is one of his best friends called us. And he goes, you guys will never guess what just happened to me. And he was like, I was driving to the airport. I pull up to the stoplight. I turned to the right. I'm in my truck. It's Adam Sandler. He's driving to the airport. And then they sat at the stoplight and talked. And Adam was Just talking to him. And the stoplight, like, was green to go. And Adam kept talking to him.
- [26:11]
A
Oh, my God.
- [26:12]
B
And I was like, how does it feel to live my dream? But to call this was so sweet. And just obviously how sweet. He sat there and he talked to him at the stoplight. That's Adam Sandler. He's the best.
- [26:23]
A
Yeah.
- [26:23]
B
I was like, whatever. Like, just maybe I'll see him. And I have a Nobu dinner with a bunch of my friends who came into town, and they were there for just, like, a couple days. So there, like, let's. We want to get Nobu. Come. And I'm right by there. So I get to the Nobu, and when I get there, I also smoked before I went to the dinner.
- [26:41]
A
Is this good or bad that you did that?
- [26:43]
B
Horrible.
- [26:43]
A
Oh, really? I think you functioned so well, though.
- [26:46]
B
I. For what I thought the dinner was going to be. It's amazing. You're a little stony. You're going to eat the Nobu. It's going to be so good.
- [26:52]
A
Like, are you a sushi girl?
- [26:54]
B
I'm not. I am a Nobu girl. I love their things, which is so bougie. Someone find me a yellow tail dupe, please. A Nobu yellow tail dupe. I love it so much.
- [27:05]
A
Okay. Is that, like. Is that raw? I don't even know what yells.
- [27:07]
B
It is raw. It's like a sashimi, and I love it. But I. I wouldn't get it somewhere else. Like, they are.
- [27:12]
A
They are good.
- [27:12]
B
It's my death row meal. I love Nobu. Really? Nobu and hot Cheetos is my death row meal duality. But so I'm stoned, and I'm, like, so excited to just kind of, like, eat and catch up with friends. And then I get there, and Justin Horowitz, Love comes out from the Noble, and he's like, tana, he's there.
- [27:32]
A
He's everywhere.
- [27:32]
B
Yeah. He came to see us. I love him. So he was like, 10. I just want to let you know Adam Sandler's inside, and I think he's with me because, like, that's just our relationship. Like, we're very jokey with each other. And I was like, you have to be with me. And the thing is, is there were people at this dinner that I was not close with. Like, my friends invited their friends and, like, you know what I mean? Like, people that. I can't just be my. Like, you know, when you go to dinner with your, like, close friends, you can, like, say whatever, do whatever. And when it's with other people, it's kind of like, hi. Like, how are you? Oh, my God. Like, you know, just catching up, being normal.
- [28:06]
A
And I was like.
- [28:06]
B
Like, I almost left. I was like, I don't think I can go to dinner with these people that do not know me that, like, this well and be so normal. Like, Adam Sandler's right over there. I get in. I. He's on the other side of the restaurant. And it's huge. It's like the biggest Nobu in the world.
- [28:19]
A
Oh, yeah. I always think Noo is small. Like, all of them huge.
- [28:22]
B
And it's huge. And he's just fully. We are on the opposite ends of the restaurant. I'm on the far right side, he's on the far left side. And people are just surrounding his table and sending him stuff. And, like, watching him, I just, like, I felt really bad for him. It was like he just wanted Nobu with his family, and it was giving, like, full zoo animal. And I was like, yeah, I don't even want to be the 10th person to send him something. He probably doesn't want them to. Like, he's probably tired of being sent something. Like, he probably just wants his spicy tuna that he ordered and to, like, you know, it's the holiday season, like, spend time with his family. And then he got up to go to the bathroom, which was right by me, and he, like. We were literally, like, 10ft from each other, and people were just falling to the bathroom. I don't even think he was able to go to the bathroom. I think he went to, and then he, like, just left. And he was like, in his Maui. Yeah. But I feel like when you get to the resorts, it's people from everywhere that don't possess the, like, chill spirit necessarily.
- [29:18]
A
And.
- [29:19]
B
And then he just left. And I was like, I. I never want to meet him. If it's at the expense of, like, Right.
- [29:25]
A
How would it. What is the way to meet him? Because I'm with you. Especially, like, falling to the bathroom is so.
- [29:30]
B
That's what I'm saying. And it's like.
- [29:32]
A
And you feel it, and it feels awful, and it feels, like, not good.
- [29:35]
B
And I just never want to add to any discomfort that he's having. I love him so much. And so it's kind of the same thing as all the other times now that I've seen him, where I'm like, if it's. If it's a meet and greet or if something is set up, or there's something where there's this amazing opportunity, if Not I will be a fan from afar forever, I was gonna say.
- [29:52]
A
Or like a stoplight situation, like your friend, where it's like, literally just the vibe. Where it's like, he wear, like, an Aviator Nation hoodie.
- [29:58]
B
I know. I need the red one. I need to get that.
- [30:00]
A
I have Aviator Nation in, like, every color, and it's really not because of Adam Sandler. They're so comfy and, like, soft. I have my pink one and my purple one. I ordered a white one. Like, I, like, love that.
- [30:07]
B
I just ordered. I just ordered his basketball shorts that he wears all the time. The Adidas ones are, like, blue. They're blue with the white stripe on the side. He always wears them, so I got them on Depop. And I think I need the.
- [30:18]
A
The Naysha.
- [30:19]
B
Yes.
- [30:20]
A
Not Loveline.
- [30:20]
B
Woolworth matching Adam Sandler and up. I love, love him so much, but I just. I don't want to be a part of the problem for him ever.
- [30:26]
A
Yeah, it's definitely a timing thing, for sure. I feel.
- [30:29]
B
Yeah.
- [30:29]
A
You just know when it's right and it'll happen. It'll happen for sure.
- [30:32]
B
It really will.
- [30:32]
A
Maybe he'll.
- [30:33]
B
But I thought of you. He was just, like, in his little Hawaiian shirt. He was so close.
- [30:37]
A
That's. I can't even imagine being that famous. It's kind of like Britney Spears level, where it's just like.
- [30:41]
B
No, it is.
- [30:42]
A
How can you even go out?
- [30:44]
B
Both times that I've seen him, like, the. Both were in very large rooms and the way that like. Like the whole room is just commanded and like, people. People just start acting in a way that you don't see for very many celebrities where, like, they are people. Stop acting like people and, like, he's a person. You know what I mean?
- [31:00]
A
Yeah. Especially it was you with his family.
- [31:02]
B
Yes, I think so.
- [31:03]
A
I feel like when you're with your family, too, it's just like.
- [31:06]
B
Yeah. And it's like, just people aren't respectful. Like, the people just surrounding and filming. I was just like, oh, he must always feel like this. And I never wanna add to it. Yeah.
- [31:16]
A
Well, he said that he was gonna make 50 more films, so I feel like it was. Alex Earl was in one. I'm sure you'll have a. I sneak on the set.
- [31:24]
B
I'm holding a boom mic.
- [31:26]
A
It'll be something where it's not like a podcast, you know, how happy. Oh, more than all the podcasters. It'll be something like that, but it's, like, so tailored to you or something where only you could play it listen.
- [31:35]
B
That Trisha Paytas manifestation is so real. So I'm gonna let her say it.
- [31:39]
A
And I love how like yeah, I just feel like it's like this year year so something like that will happen.
- [31:44]
B
I'm so excited for this year. I'm so excited for us to do some shows too. I really am.
- [31:48]
A
Yes, I'm really excited too. We're excited. I was talking about the Brandi and Monica tour and I was like we could just kind of go out and just. Or Charli XXXT and Troye Sivan where we're just like co headliners and we do, you know, set here, set there, some comedy, some asking questions and I love.
- [32:00]
B
I haven't done a variety show since like and mine were God awful since.
- [32:04]
A
Like you have a variety show?
- [32:05]
B
I did, but it was like messy. It was very me. Like I was doing like hot seed and like wheel of exposing people and.
- [32:11]
A
Like oh my God. Wait, I didn't know this.
- [32:12]
B
What's the like spill your guts or fill your guts type of vibe on stage? Like of eating like with all my friends. It was the Tana and friends tour.
- [32:20]
A
I didn't know about this. I've always seen you just perform like your songs like way back in the day.
- [32:23]
B
I didn't know you're like I'm happy that one's not resurfacing because I was saying the craziest on stage.
- [32:27]
A
Wait, that's so wild. How many tours did you do? You did a lot.
- [32:31]
B
A brilliant. I don't even know at this point.
- [32:32]
A
Wow.
- [32:33]
B
It's a trend right now to go back to 2016.
- [32:36]
A
Yes. Have you done that?
- [32:37]
B
I was doing it in the car today and I was like, I can't believe I was like on tour. Like I was just looking at 10 years. Yeah. I was just like, wow.
- [32:43]
A
Really?
- [32:43]
B
I've been doing. How old are you?
- [32:44]
A
Sixteen.
- [32:45]
B
How old was I in 2016? Ten years ago. I'm 27, so I guess I was 17.
- [32:50]
A
And you were only 17 years old.
- [32:52]
B
Yeah. Which is so nuts but just like funny. The 2016 romantic romanticization has been everything to me though.
- [33:00]
A
It's interesting how people I guess cuz it was 10 years ago so everyone's like, oh my God, look what happened in 10 years. Yeah, my 2016 was kind of not that eventful. There was not much happening for me.
- [33:09]
B
Yeah. It was really just like the pink wall for me me.
- [33:11]
A
That's so funny.
- [33:12]
B
I just want to pick you for.
- [33:14]
A
The first time and had no idea that this was a trend and like Literally. Yeah.
- [33:17]
B
You just are the moment. That's a perfect example. Like, not even knowing is so funny. No.
- [33:21]
A
Well, I knew the trend, but I didn't. I didn't know the pink wall was then. And I posted my pink wall yesterday. And after I posted, I saw. I see, like, Alexis Oakley post hers. Like, it said, like, three minutes ago from 2016. And then I saw Kristen McAtee, like, and it said, like, five minutes ago. And I was like, that's so weird. Everyone's just posting this pink wall today or what? Like, all of a sudden, everyone was posting their pink wall pictures.
- [33:39]
B
It was like, you weren't. You were gum on the ground under a shoe if you didn't have a pink. Never been.
- [33:44]
A
Never been. Nobody was there. So funny.
- [33:47]
B
No, but that's just funny that you did that. Like, not. That just shows that you are always the moment. Like, you.
- [33:51]
A
Yeah, I was giving that. I was just like, oh, I love. Like, I don't love West Holly. Oh, actually, it was by your old place in West Hollywood, and I. You know what? I have a picture of it. There was, like, 20 police cars surrounding this house, and I swear it looked like your house. I'm gonna send it to you, but I'm like, let me not, like, disrupt her. I know you should. There was, like, 20 helicopters, 20 cars, and it's like, middle of the day. It's like 2pm Like, I literally was getting, like, community goods matcha. And then I saw, like, all these, like, cars surrounding this house, and it kind of looked like you're old. The one you used to live in. But I don't know.
- [34:16]
B
I loved that house, but it was just like, I might as well have been a Melrose storefront. Like, literally, it was so in the action that I could never. But I want to move back over there.
- [34:28]
A
I know I saw something where you're like, my house is crazy.
- [34:31]
B
My house is a MAGA house. I'll say it. I, like, have this realization that I bought this farmhouse that is, like, so. For a Republican, like, family. It's just, like, so that aesthetic, like, in the cursive on the walls, it's like, this house isn't a home without Trump. Like, that's what I feel like my house gives.
- [34:49]
A
Oh, no. What are you gonna do?
- [34:51]
B
I. I mean, it was a great investment. That was. I kind of gave up halfway through my house hunting on the idea of the house that I wanted because I just couldn't find it. And I was like, let me just get the thing. That's the best investment okay, so I'm not dissatisfied with it, but there is a part of me that might rent it out to a Republican. Oh, my gosh.
- [35:11]
A
That might be a bad idea.
- [35:13]
B
Let me not manifest that. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. To anyone who's paying actually is who I'd rent it out to, but to anyone whose money screen.
- [35:20]
A
Yeah.
- [35:20]
B
And I will say that being close to you is like the best thing about living over here. And I definitely, like, remember in the beginning of Loveline, living in Hollywood and having to drive all the way here and it was like. But everything else is so far from me. Like, I was in Beverly Hills today and I was just like, it took me, me hour and a half to get there, an hour and a half back, and I'm just like, I do love the area.
- [35:41]
A
It's fun. Not Hollywood.
- [35:43]
B
Maybe not. I don't even want to say, like, where I specifically want, but like somewhere a little closer that way. I think just. I'm too far from what, though?
- [35:51]
A
You're not going out anymore? You're not doing the clubs? Like, what are you too far from?
- [35:54]
B
I don't know, like, all of my, like, I'm definitely very definitive on like, all of my, like my chiropractor and like dentists and all these just like things where I get my hair done. Like my life is there, if that makes any sense. Like, just all of the little things I have to do all the time are there. And now it takes me an hour there and back, which is awful. Anytime I do do a podcast or like an event or an any. And I feel like I skip out on a lot of things that are like, yeah, just if I was closer, I think I would, like, I'm just. I don't know, I wanna. I would have kids in that house. It's also just. It's big and Isabella's moving and like next year and I'm kind of like, I don't really want to like, too big for. Yeah, like, I don't need like a seven bedroom house.
- [36:37]
A
Yeah.
- [36:38]
B
I think I was also like in my maximalist era still. And now I'm like, I want to downsize. I want to just like be a normal human being. Why do you have a mansion?
- [36:47]
A
Yeah, yeah, I feel you for sure. I mean, that makes sense. All those points make sense. Just Hollywood is just a lot, like, there is a lot of robberies, like, where I get my hair done so bougie. And like right next door is like Vivian Westwood and there's like this tick tock or who just did a whole story time about being robbed at gunpoint by two guns at 2pm and Vivian.
- [37:06]
B
Westwood for a pearl choker. Like, why?
- [37:08]
A
Literally he's like, I had like a Louis Vuitton crossbody and it was fake and they like took it from him and stuff like that. Yeah, it was like crazy.
- [37:13]
B
That is true. There is a lot more. Like, I don't. I'm not 100% definitive just lately. And I love like mid century modern homes with character. Like, I wish that.
- [37:22]
A
Oh, yours is.
- [37:23]
B
What is yours like? Farmhouse. Oh, I have a farmhouse. Why did I buy a farmhouse?
- [37:28]
A
Everyone loves a farmhouse though. Like, I mean, influencers like James Charles. That's what I'm saying. Just not a bad way. I'm just saying like, that is the house that people love.
- [37:36]
B
And I just. They're cute, but I love like one of the main reasons that I loved moving to Hollywood so much too was the character and the history. Like even being in the different canyons and being like Marilyn Monroe lived here and the Doors lived here and like the, the houses that haven't been touched and like, I just wish I leaned into that. I don't know. This is such a. Like, by the way, I'm fine. Like this is the most. My house is just not me. That's really what I'm saying. So I might.
- [38:03]
A
No, but that's at least like.
- [38:05]
B
No.
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A
And if it's a good investment then like you said, you don't. You're not like losing money on it.
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B
Yeah, it's true. And I just keep trying to do like I lime washed my walls all dark gray, like trying to like do things to it to like defarm house ify it. And it's like, why don't we just get a farmer up in here?
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A
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B
I'm so excited to see Trisha Paytas and Tana Mongeau live for the Not Love Line tour.
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A
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B
Not Love Live. Get a new.
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A
Yes. Because you know, their playstyle is so quick that people will put them up on SeatGeek. That's what I'm saying.
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That's right. There's more than 70,000 events listed on SeatGeek, including concerts, sports, festivals and more. We're about to go see Paw Patrol. I'm very excited about that.
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B
I'm coming.
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A
Do you love Paw Patrol 10am show?
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B
I'm not coming, but I want to.
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A
I love a 10am show and more artists like Zara Larson, Lady Gaga and Cardi b should do 10am I really do want to go to the Sphere. No Doubt's gonna be there. The Backstreet Boys are gonna be there. I'm really into my like Vegas era where I'm trying to see JLO again.
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B
Like God.
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A
I know, I know. Let's go be Vegas girls.
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B
Vegas residency anytime. We are manifesting a Vegas residency. But also I do just love the Sphere and shows there. I will go be spherical with you anytime.
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A
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A
I think that's a good idea cuz. How long are you going to be in LA for? For a minute. Are you going to like, travel this year?
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B
Yeah, some travel. We're going to do a Cabo trip soon for Mokoa's birthday.
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A
What is this idea Sign.
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B
What is Makoa sign me. Turning to the February 16th. It's. No, it's the Es. Aquarius. He's an Aquarius. I always. Or it's Sagittarius. He's an Aquarius. Okay. I always confuse if it's Aquarius or Sagittarius and I'm going to hell for that, by the way.
- [40:43]
A
Yeah, Sagittarius I think is December.
- [40:44]
B
Yes. Literally. I'm going to hell for that. Like, oh, my God. Yeah, I do. I just confuse it. I, like, get in my head. I, like, double will check. Well, you know what I'm trying to say? What's that? What's that phrase? I psych myself out on, like, thinking that. Yes.
- [41:01]
A
I'm never confident in my answers either.
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B
Yes.
- [41:04]
A
Oh, my gosh. Well, that sounds exciting. You have so much, like, already planned. I'm so excited for you.
- [41:08]
B
And I'm doing Coachella. I skipped it last year.
- [41:10]
A
You are? It's confirmed.
- [41:11]
B
It's. I'm debating both weekends. The Belieber in me is winning hard. I'm talking today. I'm in the car and it's. All I'm thinking about is Bieber. Chella, wait, really?
- [41:20]
A
Like, what is it? You've seen him in live before. Have you seen him perform?
- [41:22]
B
I have seen him live before. Every time I've ever seen him live. I was hammered, though. I'm very excited to see him live with clear eyes. Anytime I ever did see him live, I sobbed uncontrollably. I, like, wanted to. I love him. So.
- [41:35]
A
Number one.
- [41:36]
B
Yes. I. I said a while ago that I would only ever go back to Coachella for Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus or Lil Wayne. And.
- [41:42]
A
And it's Justin Bieber. Who would you rather go on stage with? Justin Bieber? Adam Sandler. Sandler.
- [41:46]
B
Oh, my God. Adam Sandler. I think Justin Bieber is just such a talented entity that I would only take away from that. So is Adam Sandler. But I mean, like, we could, like, Kiki.
- [41:55]
A
But you think Adam Sandler or Justin Bieber's like, your number one above Adam Sandler as far as Idol. I want to meet you. Let's take a picture together.
- [42:02]
B
No, no. He's just my favorite musician.
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A
Okay.
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B
Like, and I really. I love Justin Bieber. I think he's been through so much. I did meet him. I met him on a Coachella with Bella Thorne.
- [42:13]
A
Oh.
- [42:13]
B
And I took a photo of them and, like, just like, hi, hi, bye, bye. And like, whatever. But.
- [42:17]
A
And you didn't ask for a photo?
- [42:18]
B
No, I just. Honestly, I was up. I was happy to take the photo of them. Like, I just was like, whatever you.
- [42:23]
A
Like, take that picture. I took that picture.
- [42:24]
B
Yes. No, I literally. And like, every year on Justin Bieber's birthday, I would post the photo for, like, years. I was like, I took this.
- [42:29]
A
Oh, you better. So you don't, like, need the meet. I'm just so Excited to see him perform.
- [42:33]
B
Yeah. And I think same thing. Like, it's like people harass him so much. Like, I just. And I appreciate the music and his talent and the fact that he's still willing to share his talents with the world versus is all that the world has taken away from him, you know, I think is really cool, really beautiful, and I'm so excited.
- [42:49]
A
I love you're, like, making a return because you missed. Was last year the first year you missed?
- [42:52]
B
Yes. And honestly, I loved it. I did not need to be there last year. I was like, I had a little bit of fomo, but doing it sober, because I did it sober the year before.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I know what it's like to do it sober.
- [43:03]
A
And how was it?
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B
And I'm. I would be lying to everyone's face if I said Coachella is better sober. I don't think it is. Like, you're taking 20,000 steps.
- [43:12]
A
Like, that's kind of everything. Get an apple watch. Ow.
- [43:16]
B
Like, tequila soda would make this feel nicer. It's a lot of energy. It's very, like, you got to be going for, like, 12 hours. And obviously, alcohol buys you a little more false energy and stuff and just dancing and so, like, I don't know. Coachella's not necessarily better sober, in my opinion, but I'm going to do it that way.
- [43:33]
A
And how do you go? Do you get, like, what is the artist pass? Is that how like, artist pass?
- [43:37]
B
I always take my security with me just to, like, stop people from grabbing me. That's the only thing I don't mind, like, all meeting all the girls, but people are. They're on Molly. They want to touch you. They want to, like, you know, scary, but I mean, but it's so fun. I love the outfits. I love the girls. Like, I love. Even if a girl is super up and, like, trying to grab my or something, I'm still like, cute outfit. And, like, you're a vibe. Keep rolling, girl.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, you know.
- [43:59]
A
Yeah. You're like, is. What's. Who's the best person you met at Coachella? Who's the worst person you met at Coachella?
- [44:03]
B
Oh, my God. Kylie Jenner was my favorite. Meeting her at Coach. The first time I met Kylie Jenner, we were all walking into artist section, and I just asked her for a photo because I was like, I don't know, like, if I'll ever see you again. This was, like, in the beginning of my career and stuff. I didn't know that I would, like, eventually see her more. So I was like, I want a photo. She said yes. And then my boyfriend at the time, who was cheating on me, asked Travis Scott for a photo and Travis Scott said no. And I still just live for that moment.
- [44:29]
A
Was it the Justin Bieber lookalike? Yeah.
- [44:31]
B
Yes. And he was like, I need a photo with Travis Scott. And, like, it was just. Yes. Kylie, so sweet. Oh, my God, you look beautiful. And her Dior bucket hat.
- [44:38]
A
You look like your besties. It looks like you're at the beach. Like, I can't see that.
- [44:41]
B
She's such a cutie. She's such a cutie. Sweetie. You guys are beautiful.
- [44:44]
A
Oh, my God, that's such a. I've never seen that photo.
- [44:46]
B
And, like, it was for some reason at the time that we were walking in, it was so empty. It was actually just like, me, Brad, Kylie and Travis walking in and I was like, this is like, like, so cool. This is fate.
- [44:56]
A
So you're like, can I have a picture? He's like, yeah. And he's like, can I have a picture? And he's like, no.
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B
Yes. It was everything. It was.
- [45:01]
A
Was everything.
- [45:02]
B
Not looking back.
- [45:03]
A
Oh, that's. That's hard.
- [45:04]
B
No shade to Brady as a baby. Now he's fine. But worst person at Coachella. I'm trying to think. Nothing really comes to mind.
- [45:16]
A
Rock just recently shared. Vanessa Hutchins was. I know.
- [45:19]
B
That was everything. By the way. I love.
- [45:21]
A
Yes. I think story.
- [45:23]
B
When I fully move to Hawaii, I will become more like that. Because it's like, I love it. The feeling of even. Just like the tick tocks I was making while I was there. Like, when you're so far from LA in the middle, mix it and, like, you know you're not going back to the mix. Like, I imagine, like, I would be doing that too. Like, Bretman's just energy. It's like, whatever. I'm not.
- [45:40]
A
Yeah. He's like, that's not my life.
- [45:42]
B
Yes. Who gives?
- [45:43]
A
I love. I love the honesty of it, too, because there is something about here, being in la, knowing you could run into someone or just like, that's not the culture to, like, talk about things that are, like, real.
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B
Yeah.
- [45:52]
A
So I did love. I did love that because. But that is. That happens a lot. Like, people will, like, celebrities will think they're getting a picture taken of them and they, like, are, like, rude. Rude. Yes.
- [46:00]
B
And it's like, no. No one's here for you, sweetie. That has definitely happened to me a few times.
- [46:04]
A
Really? Yeah.
- [46:05]
B
I mean, nothing. I don't know.
- [46:06]
A
You don't have to even just say if you don't want it. A list.
- [46:10]
B
No one came to mind? Honestly, No. I was just thinking of, like, just. But I also recognize that, like, I was so insane. Like, I used to, like, get so much more upset. Even recently, like, very recently, someone that I know well. I'm gonna try to phrase this as well as possible. Had. Has started a brand. And someone who works at the brand let me know, because I DM to the brand, and I, like, know the person who founded it. And I was like, hey, like, oh, my God, I would love to try, like, some products, like, whatever. I've been seeing people, like, have them, and I found out on the back end, on the inside, through someone that they were like, no, don't send it to her. Right. Don't send it to me.
- [46:52]
A
That, like, owns the brand.
- [46:53]
B
Yes. And I know this person very well. I also know, like, all of their secrets. So I was like, why would you do that? Just send me me the whatever it is. Right, right, right. I'm kidding. I'm kind of kidding.
- [47:02]
A
I don't even know if it makes any difference. I literally have no idea. At first I thought I knew, and then I was like, oh, no, this went to a different place. Okay. Yeah.
- [47:07]
B
And just whatever. And your innate reaction is obviously to be like, wait, I know you and you know me, and, like, you like, the. Like, you know, whatever. But then as you think about it more, it's kind of like I was insane for a very long time. So like, even just celebrities not wanting a photo with me or anything, like, over the years, like, I can now look back and kind of of just understand, you know?
- [47:28]
A
Yeah. Yeah. I think when you have, like, a colorful past, like, I love colorful. Me too. I'm talking about me as well.
- [47:37]
B
Colorful way to describe our past. Colorful rainbow.
- [47:41]
A
Yeah. Like, you. Even though it sucks that someone will always hang on to, like, 2010 church, like, it's just like, she's crazy. And it's like, okay. It's like you kind of are like, okay. That makes sense, I suppose. Like, yeah, just.
- [47:52]
B
It is what it is. Some people are gonna view you in that way. Whether it was in that time, people viewing me that way, or even, wow, like, this was recently, and I still was like, you know what? If they think this is a bad association for them, then I will.
- [48:03]
A
That's so interesting.
- [48:04]
B
Go to purchase something else, you know?
- [48:06]
A
Yeah, I guess. Yeah. It always will hurt. Especially if you, like, know the person. I suppose that would be crazy for me to be like, yeah, I'M trying.
- [48:15]
B
To think of, like, yeah, I was like, I know your tea, but whatever.
- [48:19]
A
Did you see Shane Dawson just finished a movie?
- [48:22]
B
No, he's finished a movie.
- [48:24]
A
He just directed his first movie. Movie. You haven't seen it? It's called Canceled.
- [48:29]
B
I did see it, and it is called Cancel. That's crazy how much it, like. Because I remember seeing that being like, wow, I'm. I'm intrigued to see a part of it. Not at all.
- [48:42]
A
Brooke starring in it. You guys are together in it again.
- [48:45]
B
Yeah. How funny would that be? That is so interesting that it's called Canceled. I didn't even, like, really?
- [48:50]
A
I think it's about. I think it's about. About a canceled TV star. I think. I don't think he went influencer out. I think he has it about a canceled TV star. And the first thing I thought about was, was you. And everyone's like, he's been doing this forever. It's not about Canceled. But I'm like, I just said the title was not good. I was like, like, I wonder if.
- [49:05]
B
At some point in the board meeting he was like, I will be naming this after Tana Mongeau and Brooks Schofield's former podcast.
- [49:12]
A
Because even if he came up with it, like, 10 years ago, which some of his stands are trying to tell me, it's like, well, okay, but now change it. Because now the correlation is. Is.
- [49:19]
B
But you know what? Even as I was looking through my 2016 photos today for, like, the amount of grid posts with Shane Dawson, I was pumping out. Yeah, we're crazy. I mean, like, you know, and whatever. Yeah, like, just whatever that support. Like, I. I think I'll definitely watch it, like, with the title, like, I. I want to know. You know what I mean?
- [49:37]
A
It's interesting.
- [49:38]
B
And honestly, someone. I'm happy. That's. That's actually very interestingly poetic because I think that Shane passed some sort of torch to me in the beginning of my career, and now I'm done with Canceled, and now he is titling his next thing Canceled. And that's very. He can take it, is what I guess what I'm saying.
- [49:58]
A
Kind of like when I try to, like, move my grid post down about Congress, and it's like, I just wanted to be buried. You're like, here, you take it. Then I could be buried with the canceled.
- [50:06]
B
It's not me anymore. You know what I mean? Like, it's. I no longer want to be in a canceled world. But I'm obviously. I'm so happy about everything that Canceled was for me. I don't mean it in a negative way. I just mean like that that's funny that he like passed a torch to me at some point and now it's like you're. You're canceled. I'm not.
- [50:25]
A
Not.
- [50:26]
B
I'm not. Knock on wood, right?
- [50:27]
A
I guess it would just be so weird like if I saw him like directing a movie and I was called like just Trish. Yes.
- [50:30]
B
Yes.
- [50:31]
A
Oh, that's interesting. It is.
- [50:32]
B
It is just like strange. I mean, but he made not cool, right? That was his other one.
- [50:37]
A
I love that you remember the title. Yes.
- [50:39]
B
And like it's always been a passion of his. So. I mean, I have Drew Monson's in it. Well, what Drew Monson would be everything J. Sartorius is in. Oh my God. Someone get Jacob Sartorius on the phone right now. I. I'm going to call him after this. I need the tea. He's in the movie. So it sounds like it was a pilot for a show that they're going to try to sell to streaming services. And it's the log line. Says an A list actress who gets cancelled the night before the Oscars and a struggling director who is about to give up on his dreams and move back home. They meet on the worst day that both of their lives and realize that maybe everything happens for a reason.
- [51:11]
A
Okay. Huh. Tubi. Got it. Tuby loves to buy shows like that. That's where it's at. We love a Tubie. No shade. Terry Jo has a movie coming on Tuby and I love it.
- [51:22]
B
Oh my. No way. Yeah, that's actually everything. That is everything. I mean. Yeah, I'm sorry. Tubi sent me has a movie on Tubi right now. Little Huddy has a movie on Tubi. Okay, wait, maybe a bam. I'm selling my teeth documentary. I lied. It's gonna be on Tubi.
- [51:38]
A
Kidding. Like you actually like think about it like. No, it's literally no shame, but like escape the night. Having like three episodes and then selling it to two. Like you could easily do like a three part docu series.
- [51:47]
B
Shane Dawson's style. I was really thinking, it's funny because I was thinking about the opening cut of this video to be me like studying Shane Dawson's documentary of me crying. Like it is just like, I don't know. I never thought that that would be a style of video I want to make. But I'm feeling inspired and I love documentaries.
- [52:02]
A
Like I wish I had something to document.
- [52:04]
B
And obviously Tana Mojo. A fight. I'm not Sitting here saying like, I'm making the documentary of a century. It's going to be a YouTube video and it's going to very me. But I'm, I'm excited nonetheless.
- [52:13]
A
But like people who like love you, they'll like be interested in like anything you put out, but because it is like teeth related and it is also, I think it could go like beyond you because it is so like prevalent like this veneer culture and yeah, just.
- [52:27]
B
Hollywood the like, yeah, all of the different doctors and like chiropractor. Everyone in Hollywood like cares about their social media presence. And these people with licenses like, like are also like posting selfies and making tik tok and it's interesting, you know what I mean, that that's where culture has shifted to. I don't know. I find it interesting.
- [52:47]
A
But did you have any resolutions this year?
- [52:49]
B
So many.
- [52:51]
A
What are they? I had like none. Let me.
- [52:53]
B
I was also just obsessed with your energy though I will say I saw your, how you were wearing red to go into the new year and I thought that was like, that was really cute. I put on something red in Hawaii superstition.
- [53:02]
A
We're eating circle fruit.
- [53:03]
B
No, I love that though.
- [53:04]
A
Yeah, that's like good. I was doing like literally every superstition.
- [53:07]
B
Because I love what is circle fruit.
- [53:09]
A
Like, like oranges and stuff. Like a lot of citrus fruit and stuff for like you know, just a full rounded year. Well rounded year.
- [53:15]
B
And I'm trying to think if I eat any circle fruit.
- [53:18]
A
Some say for love, but you can eat grapes also 12 grapes for each month. So for good luck. Each month.
- [53:22]
B
Yeah. Wait, that's really cool. I love that. I didn't, I. I did like, it's weird. I got to Hawaii this time and it was like the first time where. Because obviously Maui to someone like me, like I've been led into Makoa side of Maui and living there and how it is so much more than this. But what it was in the beginning for me is a vacation destination as it is so many people and obviously like you go there and obviously like I'm in with his family and I'm doing so many things that aren't vacationy. But at the same time I, I go there and I leave all my problems back in LA and I like everything is magic and rainbows and butterflies and fairies and Hawaii is the most beautiful place in the world. And this was the first time where I'd been there and I, I like cried on the beach and I was having a week where I kind of felt like, like I was feeling real emotions there. It wasn't just this like vacation dream anymore. I was in my house and I was like going through, you know, and I, I feel like I had this just very interesting week in the last part of 2025 where I just shed so much. I was just sobbing and sobbing and sobbing on the beach. I felt like so many things that I've been like holding in just this year and things that I had to change about myself and just, just like realizing that the inner work is never done too, you know, as much as like I have grown so much, there's still so many things with my childhood and just like even just in my relationship, I was just thinking about who I am as a girlfriend and just our communication, just all these things that I like wanted to work through. And I feel like I shed it all and then 2026 came and I just, I do feel like lighter and I do have a lot of resolutions. So.
- [54:54]
A
Okay, can we hear any of them?
- [54:56]
B
Be active for at least 10 minutes a day. That is. I'm starting, like I did squats yesterday and I'm sore like I did an iron man. Okay. And I love that, I love that.
- [55:06]
A
That's great.
- [55:07]
B
And while I was out there in Hawaii, I was doing more things like that, like just more active things. And I was like, I want to. Because I think that this 2025, I worked pretty hard.
- [55:16]
A
Yeah.
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B
But I noticed that I was very burnt out. I was very tired. I felt like a lot of the time I had a lot of like crash out and low moments because of that. I'd go as hard as I could for a month and then like, like be so low for like a week because I gave everything I had to that month. You know what I mean? And it's like, I do think a lot of that is health related. It's like. And I'm getting older, like my bones do start to hurt and like all of these things where it's like, I need to be working out, I need to be stronger, I need to like eat better, I need to like care about my health, my sleep, all of those things a lot more. So that's a huge one.
- [55:51]
A
That's big. That's so big. Active is like the biggest. I think. So.
- [55:54]
B
That's. And it's so hard for me to feel fit it in when I'm in la. Like when I'm in Hawaii, I have less to do and I'm just like, like I'll go walk a couple miles or something again. It's beautiful. Obviously it's so easy but here it's like no, you have to like get on a treadmill and lock in and like do this thing that you don't want to do and like sweat off your spray tan and your hair that you need for this shoot later. And like it's harder, it's harder to like fit it in.
- [56:17]
A
Yeah.
- [56:17]
B
And so I just, I want to do. That's like probably one of my biggest resolutions because this year I want to work twice as hard as last year year.
- [56:23]
A
And that's wild cuz you did so much last year. That's crazy.
- [56:27]
B
It's funny girl. Boss town had all these social media predictions for people and everyone's was like the craziest. I think she said you were going to go to space. I'm not even kidding. Like, like they're all crazy. And then her, her prediction for me was that I was just going to take a six month break from social media.
- [56:42]
A
I was like, I was like damn Hawaii vibe and you're in love vibe. So people find just a secret gonna stay. I know you and I think like is she staying there forever? Like I literally am. Like you had said like oh we should stack some before. Like no, we're fine. We're gonna take two weeks off. It's fine. And then I realized like oh my God, you're gone like a long time.
- [57:02]
B
Yes, I was.
- [57:03]
A
Maybe that's why.
- [57:04]
B
But I know that'll be the longest for a while and like I don't know. It's funny cuz I plan on not taking a break. I plan on if anything like going harder but for different things. You know what I mean? For different, just different reasons and being more intentional and all these things and stuff like that. And I'm just, I'm really excited for, for.
- [57:21]
A
Is there anything like crazy you want to try this year that's so different for you?
- [57:25]
B
I did a lot of things this trip. MOA was like teaching me how to ride a bike. I learned how to fish. I was like golfing. I did a lot of like I never thought I would do. I'm going to learn to drive. I think that even like this, I'm planning like a hike with my friends this week. I just, I want to do more things that I've never done in that regard. Like see more life in that way. I miss touring. I'm very excited to get back to that. And I don't know, I think that I'm recognizing that I'm in my last few years. I Think before I'm like married and with kids and like, not that that stops you at all. Look at you. Like, I don't think that at all. But I also know how that I'll want to slow down a little bit and stuff. So I'm just trying to like make this year a very, very jam packed, fruitful one.
- [58:10]
A
Yeah. Just have it like count as you should. Like, I feel especially like late 20s. Like, yeah, 30s is not the end because honestly, 30s began everything for me. But I agree, it does feel like last couple years to be young and just. Do you know what I mean? And then you are still young at 30. And I like, love, but no, but it's real. I wish I would have done more in my 20s. I really did nothing in my 20s.
- [58:28]
B
Well, it's. No one talks about the end of your twenties being such a. Like there's so much pressure because it's like you look back at all these past years of your 20s and it's like, oh my God, I was such an idiot and I had nothing figured out. And like, you're actually starting to figure things out and you're actually really starting to look at the future and like, you're just. Comparison can be the root of all evil because you're seeing people get married and have babies and their jobs are figured out or like what just whatever it is, you know, and you start to really like beat yourself up and like, because you're, you're so aware. You know what I mean? And with being sober for me now too, I'm just so aware. And I noticed myself almost having this like crisis. This like, I don't know, your late 20s are very interesting because you're still in your 20s and whatever. But it's the first time where you're like waking up.
- [59:17]
A
Yeah.
- [59:18]
B
And you can feel very overwhelmed and lost by that.
- [59:20]
A
I think that's what it is. And I feel like, because when you're like about to hit 30, you're getting close to 30, people freak out, like, oh my gosh, it's 30s. That's it. It's like over. You know what I mean? And then when you hit 30, it's like, oh my God, that's like nothing. But. Yeah, but I do think there is that sense. Me too. I was thinking like when I hit my. When I was like 30, I had like no prospects of like getting married, kids. That to me was my end all be all. So I was like, oh my gosh, it's not happening for me, you know, but it's since like you see people in like their 40s, like having kids and getting married. Yeah. You're a good poster child for just being okay with dating. Because you always talk about this. I used to. I mean it was just a TikTok where you're like, people always ask like when you're engaged and you're just like, we're just happy dating. Like why do we need to be engaged?
- [59:52]
B
I swear to God, I'm at the grocery store and people are just like, okay, like paper, plastic bag and are you getting engaged? And it's like I appreciate it because I am so in love and so happy and that people are just excited and that's the natural progression and like whatever. And I do think it's coming and I don't think it's super far away. I won't be. I don't think I'll be one of those girls that is like five years deep into a relationship and not because I, I'm not into that. Eventually it's like just do it. But I also know that once I'm engaged, I want to be very, very present.
- [60:22]
A
Yeah.
- [60:23]
B
In cuz even right now, like something that I struggle with in my relationship with Mokoa is like one of my resolutions even this year is like I have to plan more time to be I'm present in Hawaii. But that like when I'm here, I'm doing, I'm like gone all the time, I'm working all the time. We don't like I don't take enough time to be like, yes, take me on this date. Like I have the time. Like I literally have to give him like calendar slots and that. Like it sucks, you know, but it's like that's what I have to do. Yeah.
- [60:51]
A
That's not a bad thing to schedule. I do calendar slots all the time for like sex. Like, well we got this time, 20 minutes, you know, that's it. Take it or leave it.
- [60:58]
B
It's so real. That's the realest ever heard. Like you can me between 1:40 and 2:00pm so real.
- [61:05]
A
So real.
- [61:05]
B
But yeah, I just, I want to be really present in the time that we're engaged. And I do not want planning a wedding to feel like planning a lip liner launch. I don't want it to feel like.
- [61:16]
A
Another worst work then your lip liner launch. That party was crazy.
- [61:19]
B
That's true. Because I'm insane. Like I'm. I want a Vegas wedding, I want a Maui wedding. I probably want a third party wedding. Like let's be so honest, I Wanted.
- [61:28]
A
A third wedding too. And then my, my funds went low, you know.
- [61:31]
B
Yeah. You know what? Actually, Vegas and Maui, that's it.
- [61:34]
A
Yeah, those are, those are two great wedding destinations, I think.
- [61:37]
B
And like, I just, I want to be really, really present in that. And even just like this trip, I really focused on spending way more time with Makoa's family and just like really trying to deeply just be present because that's all they want. You know what I mean? Is all the time and whatever. And I just, just. And we're getting there. We're for sure getting there. But I just like if I did it right now, it would be another thing on the books and I, he knows that and I know that and.
- [62:00]
A
Like, you know, I mean, I mean that's great. I love that you speak out of work because like, yeah, not everyone needs to get engaged and people see the stuff and you feel like you're on a timeline. Me, I didn't get engaged. I was like 31 or something. So you feel like you're just so behind everybody when reality is like, yeah.
- [62:13]
B
And it's just like whatever. Engage. Doesn't scare me that much. Kids lately have been really putting me into a lot of deep thought though.
- [62:18]
A
Yeah.
- [62:19]
B
Because I like. Well, I rode a bike. Trisha. Okay, this is where it all started.
- [62:23]
A
Okay.
- [62:25]
B
Mokoa. We went to Walmart, we bought a bike. I. We filmed it and it's coming out and, and he tried to teach me how to ride a bike. And I always. And I made a tick tock about this. So I like try to keep it short, but I always get really angry whenever I'm trying to do things like that, like ride a bike from my childhood, like, whatever. And I never knew why, like. And I know that a lot of anger roots from sadness, but for some reason I just couldn't do it. It was like really hard for me. And I was actually trying because any other time I've made a joke out of it, like I really, I had the helmet on, the knee pads on and I was trying and I could not do it and it was like making me so angry. And then you get these flashes like, because when you're. The last time I was really trying to ride a bike, you know, I was five and just of no one being there and just of like, you know, wishing that someone fought for me to learn this thing and all the other little kids like going to do it and me being like, I'll see you guys later, I can't. And like, I don't Have a bike and like I don't have anyone who won't give up on me and all these things. And that made me realize like that. And now if I wanted to learn it, it's so much harder. You know what I mean? Like, it would take me three months. I would probably get injured. I would like, oh, I love you.
- [63:30]
A
It's so sad. That to me is so sad. I know it is.
- [63:33]
B
It's like, oh my God, I get. I think I get so angry for it, but I love you. You're so sweet.
- [63:39]
A
Oh my God, I feel so awful you went through that. That's awful because everyone gets to turn out like you too, that go through that.
- [63:45]
B
I know. And that's. It's. Not only am I angry for like Baby Tana, but I'm like angry for anyone else who feels that way. And then it's like I know that feeling when I see the little girl at the park getting pushed by her dad on a bike. To this day that gonna hurt me because like I didn't. I love you.
- [63:59]
A
I know. I'm so happy I didn't have that. That's so awful. But yeah, it's some deep rooted scars. Yes. Like that will never can ever be like.
- [64:07]
B
Yeah, it's like it's a forever void and a forever that you make as much peace with as you can. But there are still, still like remnants of those demon. I love you.
- [64:16]
A
Yeah, no, but. But in a way I feel like that'll just make you so. I know like literally. But I feel like that'll make you such a good parent because you're so aware of it. And I, I feel that same way, like in such a different like thank you so much. Oh my God. Just like crying for no reason, for not a reason, but like so extra like you're not even crying. I'm like, let me cry for you.
- [64:35]
B
I cried a lot when it. Trust me, I cried my. I cried my bike tears out.
- [64:39]
A
But there is something I feel not like convincing you to have kids, but like there is like for me, I like, oh my God, I feel so healed. Like, mine was always my issue with my dad too. Like he was in California. I don't know. I felt like he didn't want me whatever. And like seeing him around my daughter just be like, so like he came up by himself to watch her when we went out on Friday. And like they're just like connection. And when I came back, they were like sleeping on this like Ms. Rachel, like mattress downstairs and having like a sleepover. And it like, healed me so much. I was like, God, I wish. I wish I would have had my dad for me, like, you know, in childhood. I feel like that was. Have like, changed my whole trajectory of life. Right. Like, I wish I would have had just so much more trust issues and my mental illness and all stuff like that. And I'm just like, makes you happy. I know. It just makes me happy for her that she will never have to feel not loved, not cared for. She knows her dad's there, she knows her grandpa's there. She knows, you know, And I just love that she feels so loved. And like, it heals you when you have kids. So I think if you do and you can teach your child how to ride a bike.
- [65:31]
B
Yes. That was my takeaway, is that like, one day there's going to be a little girl that I will not give up on no matter what. Whatever she wants to learn, whatever she wants to do, whatever she needs, I am going to be there for her until the day I die. And that does heal me in so many ways. But also realizing that, like, I still have these, like, voids to heal. And like, Even like just McCoe and I were like, communicating something and I felt hurt by something that he did, like, inadvertently. And it was super flippant. And I ended up like, saying something to him to hurt him. Right. Because I felt hurt. Like, just this was like before that, that. And that was how my whole childhood was. Right. Was like my parents were saying hurtful things to me just like all the time. So then I would try to hurt them back. And I carried that into my life. And I like, I said it's. And I immediately was like, oh my God, why did I say that? Like, like that it's still dormant grain. So many of these things. The bike thing, the that thing, the whatever. And it's like before I have kids, I want to make sure that like, all those things are so worked out so that I can like, be the best, best parents possible, you know? And it's like, I'm not ready yet.
- [66:38]
A
Yeah.
- [66:38]
B
Yeah. So the bike was a lot more than a bike is the whole point.
- [66:41]
A
But I can also like, maybe suggest that like, you know, maybe you're like, never are fully ready until you're in it.
- [66:47]
B
Yeah.
- [66:47]
A
And because I feel the same, like, I feel like, no, there was voids in me that were never fully healed until like literally like a month ago when I see like my 3 year old with my dad and I was like, oh my gosh, like, okay, everything is okay. Now. But. Because that's okay, you know.
- [67:01]
B
Yeah.
- [67:01]
A
But it will. Yeah.
- [67:03]
B
It's so true. You're right. It's. I guess I have this notion that I want to like fully heal everything in me before I have them. But I'm sure that so many things will be healed by them.
- [67:11]
A
Yeah.
- [67:11]
B
You know, and that is true. I just think that I like I do. I have this extreme. I don't think I'll ever turn out like my parents. But like.
- [67:19]
A
No.
- [67:19]
B
My whole life that was like a big fear of mine. I want to be nothing like them. A lot of things like that, I guess in that way where it's just. Just like I want to read the books and I. I don't think knowing who I am that I could go into it fully blind and just hope like I wanna. Yeah.
- [67:35]
A
Be like. What the is that?
- [67:36]
B
Yeah. Some crazy. Been going on.
- [67:37]
A
Off.
- [67:38]
B
Off the scenes. We'll see if it ever makes it to the forefront.
- [67:40]
A
But people like, we want to know. We need to know. Yeah. It was.
- [67:43]
B
I just put it on Patreon. It's like behind a paywall.
- [67:47]
A
No, our Patreon doing good at keeping our paywall behind. They're.
- [67:51]
B
They are so good at it. I love our Patreon.
- [67:53]
A
Q and A with Mokoa and me and Moses finally did our Q A. It went up on New Year's Eve. I was like, we need to get this up. So they like those.
- [67:59]
B
We have to do an episode with them this year.
- [68:01]
A
Yes.
- [68:02]
B
The.
- [68:02]
A
The bed that we got does fit down here. Our 10 foot mattress. We. This is 11ft and I guess our 10 foot mattress. So theoretically we were bringing down. What happened was they talk about this mattress thing. I mean it's really not that interesting. It'll be really.
- [68:12]
B
No, I'm stoked on mattress gate tell now.
- [68:16]
A
It was like, okay, so we ordered like a 10 foot by 10 foot bed for everyone to sleep on. Because we just all sleep together. Yeah. And we're like falling off. Cause we're on like a king bed. So I was like, okay, we need to just get like a really major big one so we can all be on it. And then we did. And we were gonna put it in the girls room to try and like transition them in there. Cause we're all like in our room and we're putting it in their room. But it didn't fit the door. Whatever. So then we have to like get like now a ten foot by nine foot. But we have a ten foot by ten foot upstairs. And it's a Mattress. So we can't just like give it back and it's like custom. And so I was like, ooh, maybe we could use that as our not love line bed. And then do the little like leopard headboard here. Cause this is gonna change too. On strip dome color comms. I think they're coming. I ordered like a dragon mirror and I think they're putting it up soon.
- [68:56]
B
But anyways. That's cute.
- [68:57]
A
Yeah, it's like a huge dragon. It's cool. It's all blinked.
- [68:59]
B
I'm obsessed with you.
- [69:00]
A
Yeah. But I think they're gonna do our bedroom window set that we wanted. So we have a bag. My only fear is we have a 10 foot bed. And is it gonna look like too Betty? Like we're just like laying on a mattress.
- [69:11]
B
So I do feel like we're so sleepover coated over here. I also just did. I went on Owen Thiel's podcast before I left.
- [69:20]
A
What is it now?
- [69:21]
B
I don't know, actually. I mean, he just put Kendall Jenner out, obviously. Like, she's got some priority over me. Wait, that's crazy.
- [69:27]
A
That's so huge. I love him.
- [69:28]
B
And he was everything, by the way. I just. There's no. There's no safer space than with a girl or a gay.
- [69:33]
A
Okay.
- [69:35]
B
And so funny, so smart, such a good interviewer. And the set. But the set was so inspiring to me because we were like on this bed.
- [69:41]
A
Yeah.
- [69:41]
B
And I was sprawled out and I was like, I can. I can't wait for Trisha and I to feel this way.
- [69:46]
A
Was it a real bed?
- [69:47]
B
Yes.
- [69:47]
A
It's a mattress.
- [69:48]
B
Yes.
- [69:49]
A
And it didn't feel weird?
- [69:50]
B
No, no. It was like truly, truly everything. And like just I was vibing. So I think that he. You literally elicit a different interview and. Or show from just the level of comfort and just like the. I hope the viewer, like, feels that through the screen. Like, I don't know how to explain it.
- [70:08]
A
Were you in pajamas? What were you in?
- [70:09]
B
No, I was just in clothes. Because, like, obviously, like, I don't. I don't know. I don't know know him. Like, I just. I decided to wear clothes.
- [70:15]
A
Yeah.
- [70:16]
B
Like, I didn't know if that was a vibe or not. And like, Haley Bieber wore a Brazil tank top. I almost wore a Brazil tank top. And then I was like, let me talk crazy.
- [70:22]
A
So it's Hailey Bieber and Kendall Jenner.
- [70:23]
B
And you and a lot of other people, of course. But I love him.
- [70:27]
A
Like, does he have influencers on?
- [70:28]
B
He also wants you on. So Bad so much.
- [70:31]
A
Absolutely. 100. Whenever. I don't know why I feel like.
- [70:33]
B
Your manager sometimes people will literally be like, can you, Trisha, do this? And I'll, like, like they told me.
- [70:37]
A
I mean, no one ever asked, but I will do. Yes.
- [70:39]
B
He wants you on so bad.
- [70:41]
A
I love him. I love him. Yeah, he was at. I think he's with Unwell, Right. Because he was at the Unwell event in Vegas. I think he might be signed with them.
- [70:46]
B
I think he has. Or maybe they just wanted him.
- [70:49]
A
I think. Yeah. I think his podcast is one on. Well, oh, no parties. And Alex Cooper was on, so I'm assuming.
- [70:55]
B
Yeah. How was the Unwell Christmas party?
- [70:58]
A
Oh, I didn't go.
- [70:59]
B
He went.
- [71:00]
A
Did you imagine me at the end while, like, here I am.
- [71:02]
B
I want to see.
- [71:03]
A
I love. I love. I love Alex Cooper. We know this, but she did not win the Golden Globe. Amy Poehler won the Golden Globe for best podcast.
- [71:10]
B
I know. I mean, I really do love Amy Poehler's podcast. Really do. I saw a lot of people angry about it, like, Joe Rogan has more skin in the game or more people. And I was like, whatever. Like, that podcast was huge this year. And, like, let a woman, a funny woman, just win.
- [71:24]
A
That's what I say, too. And I'm also like, yeah, Joe Rogan is major, I suppose, but also, like, he had his, like, moment, and I'm sure he's still big with whoever he's big with, but it's like, Amy Poehler's new and fresh, and her stuff is the most relevant right now, so.
- [71:35]
B
Yeah. And I love seeing her podcast. That's a dream podcast for both. Like, I would love us to do that.
- [71:41]
A
I feel like she's like, a list. A list. Like, they get Aubrey Plaza and, like.
- [71:44]
B
You know, I know she's high. Had some great guests.
- [71:47]
A
Gwyneth Paltrow.
- [71:48]
B
Yes. I love when people can elicit Gwyneth Paltrow to, like, put her walls down. I feel like Amy Poehler did a good job.
- [71:54]
A
Oh, totally. When they were talking about, like, what time they eat dinner. Yes.
- [71:59]
B
And, like, how many movies Gwyneth Paltrow did in, like, such a short span of time? I watched Marty Supreme.
- [72:04]
A
Oh, how was that? Oh, you like Smithy Chalmet? You're a fan.
- [72:07]
B
I'm a huge. I'm a super fan of Timothy Chalamet. Honestly. Honestly, I. And I love Josh Safdie films. I loved Uncut Gems so much. And to me. To me. And I might get hate for this take, but Marty supreme felt like Uncut Gems is like cousin.
- [72:23]
A
Really? I haven't seen either.
- [72:24]
B
I don't think they are both extreme anxiety inducing films, so, like. No, no. I mean, I do. Psychological thriller is my favorite category of movie, so I guess. Yeah, I do love that. Yeah, I do. And I loved it. It was definitely very long, I think. If you don't love Timothy Chalamet. If you don't. Josh Safdie, anxiety inducing long film. It might not be for you, but, like, I thought it was great.
- [72:49]
A
Is Josh Safdie in it?
- [72:51]
B
No, he's. He just makes them.
- [72:53]
A
Wasn't he in Happy Gilmore too?
- [72:56]
B
Was he?
- [72:56]
A
I think he's the villain. Right?
- [72:58]
B
Wait, I know nothing because I looked.
- [73:01]
A
At who it was and I was like, oh, he's from Uncut Gems or something.
- [73:04]
B
And I was like, oh, make podcast equipment more expensive. Like, I know nothing. Brother named Benny Safdie. Yes. And Benny normally is the one that acts like Benny was in Oppenheimer.
- [73:13]
A
Oh, maybe he was in Happy Gilmore. Did you watch Happy Gilmore?
- [73:16]
B
Yes, of course. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
- [73:19]
A
You liked it or not?
- [73:20]
B
Of course. Oh, my God. I started.
- [73:21]
A
Your friend was in it. Yes.
- [73:23]
B
Yes. One of my biggest fights I ever started with McColl was over happy Gilmore too. Because I, like, I put on the trailer and he, like, turned to me and he was like, why are we going to watch the trailer? Like, it's gonna spoil the whole movie. And, like, which is just a sentiment. Okay. Like, obviously, I heavily disagree with that sentiment. I'm consuming anything Adam Sandler. Like, I want to see the trailer. I want to see the movie. I want to see the bloopers. I want to watch the credits 10 times. Like, I'm watching it all, but I, like, cr. I was just on tour and tired, and I crashed out in a way that I should not have over him saying that sentence. What happened?
- [73:54]
A
What'd you do?
- [73:54]
B
I was just a. I was just a. I was like, oh, my God. I was like, we don't even have to watch the movie. We'll watch it when we're in la. Like, whatever.
- [74:01]
A
Like, I. Yeah, I. Yeah, I've been there. Yeah. Happens.
- [74:04]
B
Whoopsie daisy. Yeah.
- [74:06]
A
Well, you know, you can. You know what's great is, like, the reflection and be like, that was a little crazy.
- [74:10]
B
Oh, my God. And then I hit the tana. Like, I'll always do something like that. And then an hour later, I'm like, I don't know why I did that.
- [74:16]
A
That's the worst. Guys are so understanding. Because honestly, they really are. I think a lot of girls go through, especially because we have, like, hormonal changes every month with periods and stuff. It's a lot.
- [74:25]
B
I've been. Oh, my God. My period's new bit is making me manic. Like, before my period. Like, actually, I'm, like, scrubbing the wall and, like, speed cleaning.
- [74:35]
A
Oh, that's a good little side effect.
- [74:37]
B
Yeah, I guess. Yeah. I get a lot of done. It used to be cry before it, but now I'm like, and then I'll start my period, and I'm like, why was I, like, magic erasering the ceiling? Like, I know how to clean.
- [74:45]
A
You know everything, though. I love that. Gave you, like, a weird superpower.
- [74:48]
B
Yeah. Maybe I'm, like, nesting. Maybe it's like, a woman thing. I'm, like, preparing.
- [74:51]
A
Like, that is a very. That's a very real thing. Yeah, because that's me too. I'm making this era now where I just, like, want everything out. I'm like, I need to clean everything. I need to organize everything. Like, everything.
- [74:58]
B
I'm getting rid of everything, everything.
- [74:59]
A
It's kind of nice. It's freeing.
- [75:00]
B
It really is.
- [75:01]
A
It allows room for new.
- [75:03]
B
Yeah, just new things. And I don't want to be held back by things and consumerism, even. Just when we were with McCoy's little sister and her friends, I was seeing how much their generation is so obsessed with tik tok shop and, like, ordering the things. And it was crazy, too. Like, for Christmas, I. I received the P. Louise advent calendar in the mail, and I decided that I would give her all of the things that were in the Advent calendar because she just loves makeup. But I underestimated. In my head, I. I was like, okay, you're 13. You love makeup. And in my head, I felt like she was gonna be like, oh, lipstick. You know what I mean?
- [75:37]
A
This is cool.
- [75:37]
B
I'm gonna play with lipstick. And then she's opening it, and she's like, oh, my God, the P. Louise advent calendar. Like, this is so crazy. Like, I never thought I'd receive one of these. Like, I love P. Louise. And I was like.
- [75:48]
A
What? I know. How do they know?
- [75:50]
B
They just. They know everything about every product. And I'm like, oh, my God, it's so wild how much TikTok is just creating this generation of more consumers.
- [76:00]
A
Especially I think, like, 13, 12, 11, 12, 13 year olds are, like, on the pulse with it all. Like, my makeup artist daughter's 13, and she's just, like, so in the know of everything fashion. Like, what ugg sneakers are new. The cat's eye of it all. Like, they're just very on the pulse.
- [76:14]
B
And I think it's good. But at the same time, it's like our generation, like, we had the time periods you couldn't online shop overnight. Like, you, you didn't immediately want something else. Like, you wanted the one thing.
- [76:27]
A
Yeah.
- [76:27]
B
And then if you were lucky enough to get it, it was like prized possession. And like, this generation does not have that as much, you know?
- [76:34]
A
Yeah, I agree. Everything's just so like. And then I said, tick tock. That is my downfalls. Tick tock shop, because, oh my gosh, I will.
- [76:40]
B
Do you order Tick tock shop stuff?
- [76:41]
A
Oh, my God. I was like watching an episode of the Kardashians and they had like little mini Jesuses in an acrylic case and all of a sudden Tick tock shops. Like, you want a mini Jesus? It was like 24 count of mini Jesus. And I was like, yeah, I need that. And I've been like, it's like upstairs. I'm like, if you guys want to take a Jesus to go, like, oh.
- [76:54]
B
My God, stop this kind of everybody, everything, everything.
- [76:56]
A
But like, did I need it? I spent 24 on 24 pieces of plastic Jesus is upstairs. And I'm just like, I don't know.
- [77:01]
B
If I, I get it completely. And I'm just trying so hard to.
- [77:04]
A
Not that it's hard. I. It's, it's, it's. It doesn't happen overnight, just like anything else.
- [77:09]
B
I know. And I'm, I'm definitely like, I'm made strides. I'm getting rid of so much stuff. I'm buying way less stuff, but I'll still. I bought these yellow Gucci sneakers the other day and I was just like, how was was.
- [77:19]
A
Oh my God.
- [77:20]
B
It was ethereal in the moment. Like, are you kidding? I'm a shopping addict who's trying to stop becoming one. And the. Now these sneakers are like a line of you. They are so cute. I can't wait to wear them.
- [77:30]
A
But like, they're just yellow. Yellow.
- [77:32]
B
They're yellow with the little Gucci stripe down the side. And they're super cute. But I'm not going to lie. I got home and I was like, folded. Like, you know, I didn't need these and I folded.
- [77:41]
A
I did buy. I bought some sneakers the other. I bought Dior sneakers with shamrocks on them. And I don't even like St. Patrick's Day. I was like, why the I buy these shamrocks? But I think it's going to be luck. I think I was feeling like lucky vibes.
- [77:50]
B
Can I tell you what I'm so. I need you to find our matching necklace. Necklace.
- [77:54]
A
I think I know where it is. I almost. I. I made a note actually today to pull out every Van Cleat, even for Christmas, and I'm not even wearing it. Moses got me like this like Cartier and I was feeling very used. I was like, cartier, Van Cleef.
- [78:06]
B
What is it? What piece?
- [78:08]
A
A question. I don't know. It's like, what does it look like? It's got like little rings.
- [78:13]
B
The trinity. And I need. I need a touch of grass.
- [78:17]
A
Why? What did your Tiffany T and I hadn't seen your TikTok. He's like, you don't watch Chance Tick tock.
- [78:21]
B
I don't get it.
- [78:22]
A
He really gave me a whole like dissertation about your two TikToks.
- [78:28]
B
The blue box, she's like.
- [78:29]
A
And then they brought her back to have anything she wanted. So she picked out the most expensive piece. But she was real about it and said, it's only happening because I made the TikTok. He liked me, the whole thing. I was like, oh my God, where have I been?
- [78:38]
B
I love Moses so much. He is truly the best.
- [78:41]
A
I watched a lot of things you don't. I didn't even see that. So I was like, I wanted that tea bracelet. And then I was like, but I did get the Cartier.
- [78:46]
B
Don't. It's hollow. It's hollow. It will snap in half. And it's. It's not. I'm standing on de influencing. People from Tiffany influenced him.
- [78:54]
A
And I guess me, apparently by association because I was like, well, I really wanted that.
- [78:57]
B
But we could go to like an XIV Carrots and get a custom one.
- [79:00]
A
What's xiv?
- [79:01]
B
It's a place here that like is famously known. Like a lot of people love those. All diamond Cartier bracelets. Like they'll make you a very similar one with the same metals and diamonds but for less and shops.
- [79:13]
A
That's how my ring was. I wanted like this, like, it's like a Cartier one, but it's like a million dollars at cardier would go to wholesale and it gets like less and yeah, all that.
- [79:21]
B
Someone gave me this tea a while ago and it doesn't really match the vibe of my house, but I think it's cute. And I was like, this matches the vibe of the Loveline set. So Meg brought it here.
- [79:29]
A
Yeah.
- [79:30]
B
I don't know.
- [79:30]
A
Either was it just here or you brought it Just now.
- [79:32]
B
Did you bring it today or. No, last time. Oh, last time. I was like, tea for Tana and Trisha. It's like, not love Liny. Like, let's get it on the set.
- [79:38]
A
We saw the death becomes her little.
- [79:40]
B
Our potions. I'm still. I still haven't put out my Halloween vlog, by the way, because of how much footage it is. And jail. Jail, because I'll upload something from, like, current week. So it's like, I'm not fully behind. But then some things are that, like, it's 2026.
- [79:55]
A
Yeah.
- [79:55]
B
But I was editing us in my Halloween vlog last night, and we were so cute.
- [79:59]
A
I want to see it up.
- [80:01]
B
Yes.
- [80:03]
A
2025 with me.
- [80:04]
B
Because my Halloween vlogs are my favorite. I'm not giving up on it. But this one is just late because it was so much footage. Like, even our Death becomes her day was like an hour of footage. Like, a whole vlog.
- [80:13]
A
October was, like, crazy. I remember we were just doing so much. It was like a marathon.
- [80:17]
B
We did do everything, but it was great. It was so fun, and I am so excited again. Even watching it made me excited for this year. Like, having the person that you can dress up with. Why were you a. A mime or a clown? Oh, okay. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
- [80:31]
A
Clown is crazy.
- [80:34]
B
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
- [80:35]
A
I'm sorry. Oh, my God.
- [80:37]
B
No, you're not a clown. You're not a clown as a human being at all. But the eye. Do you.
- [80:41]
A
On behalf of the mime community everywhere, I'm really sorry.
- [80:44]
B
Actually, I would like to formally apologize right now. To. Actually, let me apologize like this.
- [80:49]
A
What?
- [80:50]
B
I'm apologizing in mime.
- [80:53]
A
Love you. I'm sorry.
- [80:56]
B
I'm sorry to the mime community. Why were you a mime?
- [81:00]
A
You know, like, were you just feeling it? Yeah, I've always wanted to, like, get into that and then, like, like, can.
- [81:08]
B
Can we do it again?
- [81:09]
A
Are you.
- [81:09]
B
Are you. Yes. I. Trisha, you know, I love to dress up with. You know, I love.
- [81:16]
A
Because last time we talked about Halloween costume, like, I'm going to be a cat, and that's it. And I was like, all right, that's.
- [81:20]
B
I get a little exhausted in October, but I think that maybe you have just. I like that you bring the energy year round. Like, you can dress up as whatever you want whenever you want, and that's the fun of life. And I want to be a mime with you.
- [81:33]
A
Yeah, it was fun. I think that's what it was. I think my creative juice was where, like, it's the beginning of the new year, so I'm like, you know, giving myself grace, but I'm like, I'm not doing 5,000 things. I need to start getting creative and, like, just put myself out there. So I was thinking, like, what if someone needs a mime or something? You know, I feel like no one is really into that category right now. And I was trying to make my own lane, but then I did get into the mime costume, and I wasn't. I wasn't feeling it the way I thought. I, like, there's. You know, I tried the box and stuff, and I was like, I don't know. It's not. It's not giving what I thought. But. Did you get in the. The box? Yeah, I just did the box. I couldn't do anything else. And I was like, that's kind of.
- [82:06]
B
Well, maybe we'll just come up with something else random to cosplay, like, on this podcast soon. Because I'm, like, in the mood.
- [82:11]
A
But I love a m. We could do clown. Although clowns kind of scare me. Yeah, clowns are a little, like, killer.
- [82:16]
B
I'm trying to think of what else.
- [82:17]
A
Like, yeah, that's why I'm with you. Like, what is something that no one is tapped into right now? That's so.
- [82:21]
B
Okay, give me a week. Because I don't want to just say some random right now. I want to really think about what we can be, and it'll be really funny.
- [82:27]
A
Okay.
- [82:28]
B
And I'm excited for.
- [82:28]
A
Yeah, I just. I like to be creative and just dress up.
- [82:31]
B
So you keep saying slowing down. Trisha Paytas Hackman.
- [82:35]
A
Yeah. I'm not having any more kids.
- [82:38]
B
No, I know that.
- [82:39]
A
I know. I know that. Someone's like, she's pregnant again. Like, RFK is about to die. And I was like, what the hell?
- [82:45]
B
Like, no.
- [82:47]
A
People putting it on me as, like, I'm not.
- [82:49]
B
That is so funny that, like, with big deaths, people are, like, wanting you to get pregnant.
- [82:54]
A
Can we not.
- [82:55]
B
I've never thought about. About just. That is wild.
- [82:57]
A
Uterus is closed.
- [82:58]
B
Yes, uterus.
- [82:58]
A
We're closed.
- [82:59]
B
And. Oh, my little Aquaman. He's so cute. He was smiling and being so cute today. I don't. I love that. I just mean, like, you had the biggest year ever last year, and, like, I know you're still. I don't even know if I should ask you about this on the pod, but there's some hustle and bustle about maybe. Maybe a.
- [83:16]
A
There's a little tea to that. But I, I can say it yet. But maybe one day I can say it. There is a little tea to it.
- [83:21]
B
Well, I, I would love.
- [83:23]
A
I mean, that's like crazy to me. That's like a crazy one. And like that one. But it felt real for a moment and I was like, oh, maybe. And then I was like, maybe not. I really want to act more. And I was always scared to say that, but I feel like that's my thing for this year.
- [83:36]
B
That's what I was essentially asking is, are you slowing down work? Why you're not slowing down?
- [83:42]
A
Like, it's just like nothing is out there yet. Okay. But I feel like, so you get.
- [83:47]
B
A little lapse of some peace and some family and some creative, you know, just freedom and.
- [83:53]
A
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just want to, like, put out what's, like, meant to be. Although Euphoria is starting in April, so I'm like, maybe once, like that comes out, maybe I'll get like, more acting. That's what I'm hoping.
- [84:01]
B
I'm going to love it. I, like, I keep them. I know the moment. Like we're all going to be in my theater at my house and we're going to be watching it and everyone's going to stand up and scream and I'm so excited.
- [84:11]
A
Oh, my God, what was that accent?
- [84:13]
B
So excited. I'm like Australian. I'm so Anna Paul.
- [84:18]
A
Our friends being friends with Corinna and just going on jets everywhere. Do you ever see those tick tocks?
- [84:22]
B
I try to remain on other sides of the Internet.
- [84:25]
A
Like, that's such a weird pairing. No, it's so weird. I was like, or is it not? I have no idea. I don't know anything about Anna Paul. So I just like her.
- [84:32]
B
Oh. You know, I just don't, I, I, I don't think, I don't think it's a weird pairing.
- [84:39]
A
Okay, done. Enough said.
- [84:42]
B
And they're, they're on jets everywhere. They're vibing.
- [84:44]
A
I'm not always like, we're going on a yacht for Corinna's part birthday.
- [84:48]
B
I was like, well, they're, they print money over there. You know what I mean? They're loaded. Like both of them.
- [84:53]
A
Yeah, we're just talking about that today too. Not to get into, because I know we're like wrapping up, but it's like we're talking about the Paul brothers too. And I was just like, I think Jake just bought like a 16 million dollar house in Puerto Rico. But like, he has a 40 million dollar house in Georgia. And I'm just like, where are they getting all this money?
- [85:06]
B
Like just falling from the sky.
- [85:09]
A
Especially though it's like not a boxing event because they're just like making.
- [85:12]
B
They have so much money to spend so much money.
- [85:17]
A
Yeah, no, I've come to terms now in 2026 that I really don't want or need or should have that amount of money. You know, I love to play the lottery, but even that I'm like going down a little bit because I'm like, if I won $100 million, I feel like that's just like too much money for one person to have personally, in my opinion, for me. And I don't know if I'd want that. I feel like my creativity juices wouldn't be flowing, my ambition wouldn't be there, my work ethic, I don't know, I don't think I need.
- [85:39]
B
That is interesting. I've never thought about it that way because I think that I am like wanting to hustle still and stuff. But you raise a valid point. I definitely experienced more guilt than ever for having a lot of money this year and like wanting to give it away in a way that I never had and did give it away in just more than ever. You know what I mean? Yeah, like, because that's what it is. You know what I mean? Even I still just. That is so prevalent now, you know what I mean? Like, I'll be in my Rolls Royce and I'm driving down the street and it's like, I see someone who needs money, I'm getting out, I'm giving them everything. Because. Because it's like, I hate that. Just the wealth gap, it's wild.
- [86:17]
A
Especially in Los Angeles. I give, I would give 50%, like anything I'm any GoFundMe I see on TikTok I'm donating to.
- [86:23]
B
You know what I mean?
- [86:24]
A
And I will give all of it away, thousands at a time. Because I do believe it's all a gift and it's not ours anyways. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't feel like money, possessions, ours. I think it's a gift from the universe. So why not just like share that gift around? And it's like if it comes or goes, it doesn't really affect my life.
- [86:41]
B
It's so real. And like, and like even this holiday season, people were giving me gifts and my friends all gave me the most thoughtful gifts in the world and they're so sweet and they like spent lots of money on different things and whatever. And I had this moment where I was like, I felt so much more fulfilled, like, buying all the angel trees or donating a ton of money to different charities and people and gofundmes and just different things than I did receiving, like, a brand new Osmo Pocket 3 camera from, like, my girls. I told them that next year that literally, like, literally, literally, like, and it was so sweet. It's an expensive camera they all got me, and they're super sweet. But I'm like, I literally said, next year we should all donate money on each other's behalfs. Like, just, like, I don't know. It is more fulfilling to give than to receive in this place. Like, we're very lucky to have what we have, you know, like, young and stuff.
- [87:29]
A
I feel like, you know, I never get too hard. Like Michaela showing her 40,000 Van Cleef. I'm like, you know, I did that. And, like, there's nothing wrong with it.
- [87:36]
B
I just.
- [87:36]
A
When you don't come for money, you know, like Michaela do, it's like, I get it.
- [87:40]
B
You're like, but I did that. I didn't come for money. I made the money. I got to do the flashy things. I still do, like, nice things. But I think that I. I'm trying to be giving as much as I'm also buying. If I want to buy something ignorant, then you better give something ignorant. You know what I mean?
- [87:53]
A
Well, I feel that's true.
- [87:54]
B
You.
- [87:55]
A
You started so early, so I guess, yeah, you're kind of like at the same mental space because you started so young and you were making money so young.
- [88:04]
B
Yes.
- [88:05]
A
When did you start YouTube? What? How old were you?
- [88:06]
B
15, 11 years ago. So to. I said you were. No, maybe 12 years ago. Maybe 13. I started when I was like, 15.
- [88:16]
A
So you're 27 now, so, yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, so young to start it.
- [88:21]
B
You just had your 19 year.
- [88:23]
A
19 year.
- [88:24]
B
19 year anniversary.
- [88:26]
A
I think YouTube is celebrating their 20th this year. So I think I started like a half a year after the platform. Yeah, they're sending out jackets. Did you get that email? They're like, you want to know? I'll take a 20th jacket. I mean, I'm not stupid. I love it. I'm like, oh, I want to wear that.
- [88:43]
B
But you are on YouTube. You've been on the platform as long as the platform's been on the platform. Like, that's so old.
- [88:47]
A
That's like being like, you've been on earth as Long as the dinosaurs, you know?
- [88:51]
B
But how lucky are we, you know.
- [88:53]
A
What I mean, to be there at the beginning. That's.
- [88:54]
B
That's really just how I feel these days where it's like, holy, how the have I been doing this for this song? And I'm sure you feel the same exact way.
- [89:02]
A
Well, I think it's even crazier for you because you started as like a child. You know what I mean? So.
- [89:06]
B
No, but 19. You. Like, we.
- [89:08]
A
We just like 18 when I started.
- [89:10]
B
It's been such a big part of our lives, and that's because people care. And that's, like, so cool. Like, I was literally filming something in Hawaii, and I was sitting out on the grass and I was filming, and I was on this tangent where I was like, I just don't know how the doing this for so long. And these two girls came up as I was saying that to just be like, we've been watching you for like the last 10 years. And I stopped filming and we talked for like 30 minutes. And I was just like, they were so cool. They always are. Like, they're always. It's always just the coolest, coolest girl. And I was like, how sick. Gave me this ability to do that. Like, you know.
- [89:41]
A
No, it is. It is the craziest thing when anyone recognizes or cares or anything. I'm always, yeah, this is so wild.
- [89:46]
B
Like, we're just so lucky.
- [89:47]
A
No, it's the best. It's the best.
- [89:48]
B
It's the best.
- [89:49]
A
It's the best job, hands down. Like, I wouldn't want to do anything else.
- [89:52]
B
And I love it so much.
- [89:52]
A
I love the evolution of it. I love that we're podcasters and we go with it. Because you were doing story times and then you were doing beauty videos, and I was like, podcast. And you kind of just evolve with the platforms, and I think that's what's really fun. And I love doing it too. Whatever comes next, I'm like, I will do. I just love it. I love it so much. It's fun and we're here together. People do love you. People always ask about you.
- [90:08]
B
And I same. I just. It's my favorite duo and I get so happy coming here. Like, I was so excited to come here today, and I'm so excited for this year of not Loveline. Like, it's so cool that we've been now doing it for a while, and it's like, doesn't feel like this little brand new baby. It's like just this thing that we get to come do and Just decompress and hang out.
- [90:27]
A
Yeah, I love it, too.
- [90:29]
B
Tour tickets soon, I think.
- [90:31]
A
Yeah, I feel like. Yeah, I feel like in. In a month, I think. Yeah.
- [90:37]
B
Madison Square Garden here. Yeah, here we come.
- [90:40]
A
I made no money with Madison Square, but that's okay.
- [90:42]
B
Oh, my. Do you really not?
- [90:43]
A
Yeah, I think.
- [90:44]
B
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
- [90:46]
A
I'm just kidding.
- [90:46]
B
But anyway, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out off camera.
- [90:50]
A
We love you guys. We love you guys.
- [90:51]
B
Happy New Year.
- [90:52]
A
Happy New Year.
- [90:53]
B
I hope all the girlies out there feeling feel like 2026 is their year to, like, start new things, too, and just be their truest self and manifest their dreams and make them come true and just, like, they will.
- [91:03]
A
All the.
- [91:04]
B
Like, I just. I hope, as a collective, this is a new year and the world's in, like, a scary place. I get that. But we also have power, this community of us girls and gays and days and everyone. And I'm just like. I'm really excited for what this year has to bring.
- [91:18]
A
So maybe we'll pass a bill.
- [91:20]
B
Yeah.
- [91:21]
A
Not even having to be in Conqueror, so we can just go put it in.
- [91:24]
B
Oh, my God. I'm gonna be right behind you in a little pantsuit, like, just with a little flag. I swear. I'm so excited.
- [91:29]
A
Watch out, Capitol Hill.
- [91:31]
B
Out.
- [91:32]
A
I'm just a bill.
- [91:33]
B
I love Watch out, Capitol Hill. Is that our song?
- [91:35]
A
Yeah, I think that is a song. You never heard that song? It's like, I'm just a bill, and I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill. Oh, yes, I have. But, like, how do we make that School has rockers. Something I made up.
- [91:48]
B
Okay, well, never mind. It's already a song.
- [91:50]
A
But we could remix it.
- [91:52]
B
Yeah. I'm excited. We should actually, like, we got to get in the studio for this tour.
- [91:57]
A
Yeah, we have to. For sure.
- [91:57]
B
That'd be fun. Yeah.
- [91:59]
A
Okay.
- [91:59]
B
We love you guys.
- [92:00]
A
Love you guys. See you soon.
- [92:01]
B
Happy New Year.
- [92:01]
A
Happy New Year.