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I know. Like, where along the lines do we get jaded? Where along the lines do we get mean? Do we get hateful?
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Like, 13 years old?
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I think you've been pointed. 13.
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Got him in bed, got on top of him. Never do this again.
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Then.
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Then she lost the plot a little.
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They made out she got turned on too. Hello, welcome to Not Loveline, where we're gonna take calls today. Because we love take. We truly love taking calls. And I don't mean that sarcastically. Like, I love yapping, but I love calls because everyone's like, you guys, I don't mind, like, talking. Just talk, talk. And I'm like, I love it too, but I love taking calls because we feel like our whole lives weren't in vain. All the messiness online weren't in vain. Because if we can help people be like, we make it through, you can too. Here's how it is.
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So, so true. Like, just. And I was saying this to Devin earlier, but, like, I'll go home sometimes and like, really, like, a call will really move me and sit with me and like, just like, it is so cool and like, hearing people's voices. Like, you read comments all the time, but it feels so much more personal. So we love your calls. I just. Yes. Call this number and talk to us. I just created a new bit over on the Patreon. I will be referring to Devin and Meg as the execs. Like, I imagine them behind the camera in like, suit and t. And the execs wanted us to give you guys a little bit of a message about the calls. So. Hold on, I'm getting the message.
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Okay. Yeah. Yep. I'm also getting it in my ear.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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Okay. The execs said that they prefer calls around a minute.
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Yeah, the five minute calls are a lot. Cause there's over 15,000. So.
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Yes, and we like to. I was gonna say we like to take a lot of calls, but they're like, stop lying. But just, yes, the execs Are preferring calls around a minute and get creat, too. Devon was saying that his. He gets a lot of the same call a million times. Like, should I break up with my boyfriend? He's like, if he's calling me ugly. And then should I break up with my boyfriend? If he is liking other girls Instagram photos, should I break up with my boyfriend? The answer is yes. You just. Yes. To all of our similar calls. The answer is yes, we. You should break up with that man. And we love you so much. But yeah, if you're going through a situation where you're like, wow, this is niche, Feel free to give us a ring. And again, the execs, you know. Yep. Okay. Under a minute. All right.
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And yeah, it can also be other things. This is not Loveline, but you can also ask us about not lifelines, not friend lines, not, whatever, cookie lines. Well, yeah, that's Patreon. Patreon, not Loveline. You can ask us about not sex life. Patreon.com not loveline, where we do extended podcasts every Friday. We love.
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We were just talking about the skims Bush and bush on Bush on Maine.
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Yeah, that's a very recent call, too. So you're. You're going through the calls very frequently, which is nice, because I was like, oh, are they still going from calls when we first started this a year ago? Happy. Almost one year, by the way, Trisha. Almost a year. Yeah.
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Wait, we should actually find out the date that we sat down and filmed the very first episode. I'll look through my camera roll. Cause that is. It's so crazy how time flies. Even Meg and I realized today that we've now been working together for six months.
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Wow. And, like, that went fast.
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Oh, my gosh. Like, actually insane. And just even this, like, I still will be like, oh, my new show with Trisha. But it's almost at a year of doing that loveline.
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What, 42 episodes or something you said, too. Which is, like, insane. Like, so good.
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So insane. Yeah.
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I'm really. I'm really happy. We love doing this. It's so fun.
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And it's been so cool because it, like, started as our baby that we've seen grow so much. Like, the amount of people now that come up and say, like, I love not love line. Like, it just. It makes me so happy.
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Me, too. This is. This is everything. I love it, too. We have so much fun. We do. We eat, we talk. We talk more.
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Yes. And then we talk even more.
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We talk so much. By the end of it, then I'M like talked out. I was like, I have nothing else.
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Oh. I go home and I'm doing sign language to makoa. Genuinely. I'm like, I need water.
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What do you do when you go home? Like, what is it? Okay, you drive home, what does it look like?
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I walk through the front door. Anything that's on me is coming off immediately. Like hair extensions, lashes, earrings, anything like this. Even just the over stimulation from usually after Loveline specifically. I am smoking. I'm smoking a little bit of. I'm gardening. I'm gardening and just chilling.
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Big chill with a chill. Like, are you with people in the living room? Are you in a bed by yourself? Like with.
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Yeah, I guess my chilling is always pretty much gonna be with like Ashley Isabella Amari or interesting Makoa.
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Yeah.
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Like, so you can go the whole.
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Day talking and then you're like, you know what? I'm gonna just like chill with more people. Yes.
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But I swear it's so funny. Like, we are especially like me, Ashley, Isabella Amari. Like, we are like blood, you know, like, it's like we can all sit in silence on a phone for like 45 minutes together, rotting. And then like one of us will say something funny. We'll laugh. Like, it's like your family. It's like just laying with your family. Like, you know, you can just be on your phone.
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That's really cool. That's something I never like, explain experience. I think this is like. And I never will because I think there's like two different types of people. Like, I love the idea that. That does sound fun to just be surrounded by people and just like you're all just doing your own thing but surround it because it's like fun. But oh my gosh, I think I get overstimulated to the point where it's like I. Sometimes I just need to be like alone.
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Being alone is nice and I like me, I always talk about this. I love the time I do have alone and need to do it more.
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How often do you think you're alone alone?
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That often?
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Never.
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Like, not never even in Hawaii. I had a couple days. By yourself where I was pretty much. Yeah. Like before Ty came in or like people were just like leaving and I'd be at the place alone. And I do love it. I really do. Like every time I'm alone I'm like, oh, I should do this more.
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What do you do when you're alone?
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I'll blast music usually. And just like think I make. I feel like I make my best content When I'm alone, like, that is like a video. I'll film a video or whatever. I also like, get done. Like, I was color coding my closet in Hawaii and like, just putting stuff away, organizing stuff, like just setting up the place. And like, I do love to. I love to be alone.
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I'm just never alone.
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Yeah, I'm just blessed and in love with a lot of people. I love my people so much.
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I like alone time, but like, but like, I don't. What is the word? I like alone for like an hour. You know, I love now having a family because I was alone my entire life. Like from like 18 to like 31. I like lived alone. I never lived with anybody. Like, no roommates, no boyfriends, nothing. So I never lived with anyone.
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And then when I started living with.
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Moses, it was like a shock. Like, actually like, not kicked him out. But I was like, this isn't working. Like, you need to leave. Like, I would get. Because I couldn't do videos, you know, I couldn't eat what I wanted. Like, I felt very, like, weirdly, like, watched even maybe he wasn't watching me, but I just felt like. I don't know, I had so many times, like, you need to leave. Like, I just was like, it was too much. And then now I couldn't like, live with like, I couldn't like, live without him and stuff like that. But I like alone time. I just don't know if I want to be alone because I don't like, I guess there's a difference between being alone.
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I also feel like you spent, like, have spent a lot of time with people who made you and correct me if I'm wrong, this is like an assumption I'm making but made you conscious of, like, how you were being perceived by them. Like, I even think in the beginning of our friendship you were kind of like, oh my God, like, what will we do if we went shopping again? Like, I'd be so worried about like you perceive or like, yeah, like you worry like about what someone else thinks. And like, that has been one of my duties in friendship. Is showing you, like, Trisha, you can do or say whatever. Like I'm, I'm rocking with you, you know?
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Yeah. And then behind, more so me projecting, maybe there were people who maybe were judging me. But I always thought like, just everyone was always just judging me and I'm like, nobody. Like, maybe some people were, maybe some people weren't. But yeah, that's probably true. And yeah, like, when we've hung out now we've Gone out in public like, three or four times together now. And it's like. It is. It is chill. And I, like, love it. I do love it. Like we were saying about the unwell thing, too. It's just, like, so many people around, and I, like, love it. But then, like, when I go, I love to just, like, be quiet in, like, the hotel room. Like, I just need, like.
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And you also, like. And I, like, this happens to me kind of, too, but I feel like this really happens to you where, like, when you're a yapper online, people then kind of expect that and welcome that energy and match that energy to you in person all the time. And, like, sometimes you just. You don't. Well, you know what I mean? Someone will come up to you, and you're dead exhausted or whatever, and it's like. And you're like, yeah.
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And you can't be, like, you can't be. You don't want to be exhausted to someone because they'll think you're in a bad mood. You know, like, what's wrong? You know, like, people always say that to me if I'm not, like, extra bubbly. You know what I mean? So I do put it on sometimes because I'm like. I don't want people to think I'm, like, upset or mad. But there are some times where I'm just, like, tired, and it's like, I just remember going through the airport with, like, Elvis and Malibu, and we're just, like, so tired because you're carrying car seats and strollers, and I was just, like, exhausted. I remember people coming up to me, and I was just like. I was just like, hi. And they're just like, are you okay? And I was like, no. I'm, like, dragging strollers and two kids that don't want to be on a plane.
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Like.
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Like, this is a lot right now. And so it's like, you feel like you have to be on. Otherwise people would think something's wrong.
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It's so true. Like, when you. When you brand yourself as the Chronic Yap. Like, if you are not literally like, hi. Let's. Yeah. People are like. People are acting like you're in cardiac arrest. Like, people are like, like, which is such a funny problem to have. Like, I love our lives so much. I'm not about it all. Just very funny that the Chronic Yap.
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Trope will, like, follow through if Moses will, like, like, if we're at the airport and then he goes to, like, like, do our bags or get tickets or take the car out or Something like that. Like, people come up to me, even if I have my kids and, like, sit next to me like, oh, you look lonely. Do you want to talk? I was like, I'm not lonely. I don't want to talk. Like, I have two kids. My husband just. I'm like, I'm just enjoying this quiet that I can be on my phone for, like, one minute. You know what I mean? But I get that a lot. A lot of people. Like, if once Moses leaves, like, oh, do you need someone to talk to?
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That is like thinking you, like, literally need to fill every second with yap. It's the chronic. Yep. But it's like, no.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, so nice. It is nice. Yeah.
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It's the sweetest, like, intention ever. It is just like, very funny that.
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If you see me at the airport with you now, three kids, I'm probably.
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Just tired and over stimulated, all the things.
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Because I'll tell you, Malibu, she loves to talk. And I love talking. Of course, I love talking to her. But we talk 24 7. So if you ever think Trisha looks like someone, she needs to talk to someone, that's. No. If Malibu's sleeping, it's my quiet time. But. But I do. I do like talking, but I just. I don't need to.
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Do you think Malibu will end up being like, you? Like, loving the yap? Like, loving, like, could you ever see her being, like, I guess, famous?
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Oh, interesting. It's so hard to tell now. Like, in my head, I'm like, yes, she's a star. Like, she does ballet and singing. But, like, my, like, hunch, my initial, like, hunches, like, she'll probably just want to do, like, a regular job because I feel like we're always opposite of our parents. Maybe. I don't know. It's hard. Either that or she'll, like, want to be exactly like me. I don't know. But in my head, in my heart, I feel like she probably will do something intellectual. She's very smart.
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She's very.
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Just, like, wanting to read. Like, she doesn't know how to read yet, but she likes to sit there with a book and, like, talk and, like, pretend like she's reading and change the books. I think she's like, maybe she does know how to read. Who knows? She's very, like, I'm not kidding. She's, like, trilingual. She can speak, like, literally, like, three languages because she just, from an early age has been learning, like, three different languages. So it's like she's Very smart. And she'll say stuff. And I'm like, God, I wish I knew what you were saying. And I'll ask her, like, what does that mean? She'll just, like, repeat it again. And I was just like, like, oh, that's really good. She's very good.
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She. And she really is just so, like, aware. What I see from Alibu, too, is very cute because she'll come down here even today. There's, like, seven people. And I'll watch her, like, look at all the people. And she's, like, observing them. She's vetting them. She's like, should you be in the Paytas Hackman compound right now?
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Because Moses was there coming back from ballet. So what was happening?
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She came back from ballet. And then I got our gift. So I gave it to her, and she was.
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Loved it. We forgot to say that in the last one. She loved her gift.
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She was so, so cute about it, too. Like, the way she.
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It. Yeah.
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And she was, like, so ready to put it on, and I was showing her how it worked, and I put it on her, and then she just gave me the quiet.
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She was. Thank you.
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Like, just really quiet. And then there were a lot of people, so she was just kind of like. Like she was doing one of these. She was like, oh, who's here? Who's here? Who's in my house?
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Where's she at? Is she, like, in front of you in the glam chair? She behind you? Like, no, she.
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I. I, like, ran to the hallway. Like, she was in the. At the edge of the hallway. Like, kind of almost like, peeking in, checking things out. Like, she's very, like, observant. I always noticed that about Malibu. She's just very observant surroundings and what's going on and, like, just stuff like that. And I'm like, yes, she loved the bracelet.
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Yeah. She, like. She's like. She came upstairs, she hides. She has, like, a box that, like, Elvis can't touch. Because she's very in that, like, phase now of, like, Elvis taking all her toys. She's. I don't want Elvis to play with this. I don't want Elvis at this. We're like, okay, anything you want Elvis to get, like, put in this box and put the lid on it. So she ended up putting the bracelet. She went right upstairs and put the bracelet in the box because she does not want Elvis to have it. So she was like. But she loved it. She showed it to me, and then she put it in the box, and she was, like, very excited that Is so cute. She's like, I don't want Elvis to get this. I was like, okay, you better put in your box then. Because she was, she was so excited. You know, she'll like think of you as like literally like a fairy godmother. She's like, oh my God. Cuz even before you gave her the bracelet, when she left for ballet this morning, she's like. I'm like, she, are you gonna go work? And I was like, yeah, Tana will be here today. And she, for me, she come play with me. And I was like, well, after. Yeah, she loves you. I love that so much.
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Oh my God. That was like. That's really cute. I just love her. She's so, she's just so pure too. Like. Oh, it's just like very sweet.
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Like.
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And I get so excited to see her too.
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Like, you're very good with her. You're very good with kids. And like, with kids, they are just pure.
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They're just like.
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So I know, like, where along the lines do we get jaded? Where along the lines do we get mean? Do we get hateful?
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Like 13 years old. I think 13 was my villain arc.
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Really? And what do you.
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Well, no, I was honestly a villain as a child too.
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So what do you think? Like, jaded because you're not born like that. Like every, literally every little kid, maybe even three years old, like some kids turn evil, I don't know. But like, as a baby, there's no like ill intentioned baby. So where do you think, like it gets murked for us?
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Me personally or do you think, yeah.
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You personally, if you thought like as a child you had like a villain era?
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I think that I like, from a very young age was like, God, my parents are idiots. Like later in life did I learn the nuances and different things. I just think from a very young age I was like, oh, like I'm smarter than you. And like, and like, that was like, like it was like. Or just like you're chaotic or you're embarrassing or like your social cues are off. So like a lot of my like, villain arc, like, was that me just being so over it? From a very young age, you didn't.
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Have anyone to like protect you or guide you.
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Yeah, like, I was kind of like, like that was my like, like. And then I also think Vegas for me, because Vegas really lifts the COVID on a lot of the darker parts of society and humanity. That like money is illegal and like, that like people do up things to people and just like even like teachers being Drunk, like, you know what? I just, like, things like that made me realize, like, that the world, it Almost like later did I realize, like, the world is a beautiful place full of hope and positivity and, like, all of those things. Like, I think that I've gotten better at that as I've gotten older versus.
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The other way around.
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Like, I was. You know what I mean? From a young age, I was like, wow, the world is a dark place. So.
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Yeah. So I guess that makes sense. Like, starting with the parents and also environment, like, where you're raised, how you're.
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Raised is like 100%.
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That's good. Because I thought, like, you know, because even in school when kids are mean to each other, like, where do they learn the meanness? Where do they learn, like, mean terms and stuff like that? So I guess I would start probably at the parents.
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Yeah.
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Like, if a kid says something like racist, like, you probably heard that from the parents.
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100%.
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Okay, that makes sense. Because I'm like, I'm trying really hard to preserve their, like. Like, innocence and sweetness. And I'm like, do I keep them in a bubble? Like, what do we do?
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It is so hard though, now with social media.
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Yeah.
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Like, it is so wild that, like, I don't know that even just the kids in my life, like, seeing, like, Nicole's little sister, like, my goddaughter. And like, just like. I don't know, like, just. I wasn't like. Like, they have so much more access to the real world online. They know what is going on in the real world and they know people are mean and they know, like, so much.
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How old are they? How old are they?
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Like, they're both 13.
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Oh, yeah.
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So.
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Yeah.
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Which is funny because they're. They're literally in that era.
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That makes sense. I know I gotta keep them off social media for as long as possible because. And I look back to my maybe villain origin story or just like, me. Like. Yeah, for my. Me personally, I think it started. There's two that I like, two things. First, the insecurities come from. I think even just society back in the day with all the diet culture. Like, I think that's where I started. Like, I remember, like, five years old, like, you know, people telling me, like, you should try a diet. You should try this. Like, I think that from an early age. And then also.
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Crazy.
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I know, crazy. And then for me personally, school was like, my, like, not safe space. So I was just like, that's where I was exposed to a lot of things. So I guess you're right. So it's like, do you keep your child in a bubble? I want to. Is that the right way? I don't know.
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I know it's so hard because at the same time like, like I feel like I learned most lessons in my life the hard way. And of course a parent doesn't want to subject their kids to like, you know what I mean, like hard things. But at the same time you also don't want them to like not be prepared for what the real world is or like become a person with like grit or tolerance or like even just like. Do you ever meet a person who is like so clearly never had a real problem in their life and like are so self centered or like just so interesting?
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No, I haven't met someone like that. So they're like, they were like raised kind of like spoiled. Do you mean like just like a perfect upbringing and then they don't really have a grasp of reality?
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Yes. And then like their meal comes wrong and they're like cussing out a waiter or crying, you know, or like just whatever.
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Entitled. Yeah. That's scary too. That's always the struggle too is like you want to spoil your can give them everything, but it's like, okay, but will they be too spoiled? Like are they gonna be a brat about it?
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I always, always think about that because it's like, I don't know. I, I do know a lot of people who are like raised in a wealthy environment and they turned out to be great people. But I've also met a lot of people who like were raised in a wealthy environment and given everything. And then it's like they, they're, they're too above getting a real job. They're too above like they like it literally hinders them in like their later years. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like so out of touch with like everything. So it's like, I guess it really.
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Just all is about the parents. At least starts with the parents. Right? It's like how you raise them. But like how do you know you're doing it right? You don't, you don't. That's probably. You don't know until you step. Until your child's older and like you kind of that mom, dad, like, oh, I'm sorry.
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A
I feel like we've been talking a lot about the things that we have been going through as we get older and one of the things is definitely being more aware of your credit.
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A
It's so true. I mean, really, when I look back at my life, if I could go back and yell at younger me, I would definitely add credit into that spiel. I'd be like, and care about your credit.
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B
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A
And it seems like Kickoff can help.
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I know they erase it, but the good thing, like you said, is like, unlearning it. Like, you're like, seeing a different life in a different way now. So it's like, maybe we can. Me too. I think I was like. I think I was raised like. Or not raised, but I think I, like, was a hater from. I don't know. I just, like, early on, I was like a hater of people and like, maybe jealousy. I don't know what it was. I was like, a hater of people. So I had to, like, unlearn to be like, let me not just hate someone that I don't know anything about them. You know what I mean? Because I'd always be like, oh, hate that person. It's like, but why? Why do you hate them? There's no reason to.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And unlearning, that's like, kind of hard.
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A
But it's like, at least you did the inner work and now you're parenting. Because so many people do just carry their issues through their life and then project them onto their children and, like, bring it into the way they raise their children.
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B
You know, like, that would have been. That would have been me for sure. There is a new Colleen Hoover book on Audible. Not sponsored, but I was sponsored by Audible and I, like, listen to this.
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A
Book and I remember the Audible days. Yeah.
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B
Now they have Audible romance pants and they're wonderful. We need to get them on this podcast. Anyways, it's about, like, a mother, daughter, basically, and same thing. She had, like, her young, and she doesn't want to, like, have her make the same mistakes, but then she, like, falls in love with. It's like this whole, like, it's like this whole thing, and I like, it's like listening to it. I was like, oh, my God, this is like. So it's a reminder to him.
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Yeah.
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Oh, okay. That's. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it.
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A
And then she falls in love. And is the guy good or bad?
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Young. The young. Well, it's just kind of. It's kind of complicated because there's like, you know, there's like a car accident. Then they get, like, trauma, bond with that. Like, there's like, this whole thing, and I haven't actually. Haven't finished it yet, but it was pretty good because I was like, oh, damn. Because she was, like, trying so hard to keep her, like, from making the same mistakes she did, but then she, like, falls in love and you can't really bubble someone. You can't, like, keep them in a bubble.
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A
That is also so true. Like, there's.
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Let them make their own mistakes and that.
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Oh, my. I can't imagine, like, that, like, because that is so true. You have to, like, let people make their own mistakes. And, like, I can't imagine having a kid and like, when your kid has their first boyfriend and you're like, oh, my God, I don't like this person for you. Oh. Oh, my God. Like, like, oh, my. Just all of it.
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You know what I mean?
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Like. Or you're. She, like, she's gonna get her heart broken.
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And, like, you gotta like, I hope not. I hope never. Moses swears he's never had his heart broken. He's like, I've never gone through a heartbreak. I'm like, well, I hope our kids never to go through heartbreak, because that's crazy. What do you mean?
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It's so Moses. But, like, at the same time, my, like, just never having never gone through that. Like, that's something.
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I don't know what that means, though, for him. Like, what do you mean? Did you never feel love for someone? Like, how do you mean? You Never had a heartbreak. Like even if you were the one that always broke up with someone, like you didn't have any like sadness that they were no longer in your life. Like what's wrong with you? But I guess it's good.
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A
I guess. He was always waiting for you, which is.
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B
He always says that. He's like Moses waited 40 years for a sign from God in the desert. He's like, so I only had to wait 41 for you. I was like, oh wow. That's not.
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A
That's so sweet. He's like, I'm really cute.
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B
Very biblical.
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I don't know though, I do think like I wouldn't change all of my life's for the most part greatest heartbreaks. Cause like, like I don't know. They made me who I am.
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B
Oh really? I would. I wish I could take all of them back.
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A
Really.
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I was like, I think I was the most like I want to end my life after heartbreak.
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Me too, me too. But like I just.
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B
That's a crazy thing to like wanna.
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But I wouldn't change it. I don't know just because learn something.
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B
From it or something.
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Yes. Like I think I very much. Every time I got my heart broken was like wow. Like eventually, eventually like after so much pain could be like wow. Well this person wasn't for me because of X, Y and Z. And like now A, I want to be a different partner. B, I want a different partner. Like even some of my heart, like just like let's say I was a bad partner. And then in the reasons of us breaking up, some of the things were me. Like it made me have to self reflect and like I don't know. I don't think I'd be the partner I am to Mokoa at all without them. So I'm like, you know, I don't know.
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B
Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it. I just, the pain is so bad. Like I just, I want to think about like my kids having to go through that pain. It's like, I know it's like not fair. It's not fair because like. But I guess at the end of the day that like life's not fair. Right? Like some people are just not gonna be in love with you and that's period.
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A
Like you just gotta like rejection is divine protection.
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B
That's, that's actually so true because I was so afraid of rejection. But like it's needed. It's like, yeah, it's saving you from something.
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A
Thank God this person broke my heart, you know? And like, now I know. To never be with anyone like that again.
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B
Yeah, it's the whole mantra, what is meant for you will be yours kind of thing. You don't have to, like, block it. Yes.
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A
The executives have a call.
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They're like the lawyer. The lawyers are saying, what is it?
- [26:27]
A
On Dealer, no Deal. The banker. The banker says, we have an offer.
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B
Oh, my gosh. I love doing. I love that you watched it.
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A
That would be so fun too.
- [26:41]
B
On the show or no Deal. Like hosting or contestants. Contestants.
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A
I would do anything to be a contestant on Dealer no Deal. Howie Mandel begging.
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B
Still. He's still the host.
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A
No, just like, bring it back. I don't know. Imagine it's all your friends and family.
- [26:54]
B
Like, everyone you guys know and love are the ones holding the briefcases.
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A
Oh, my God, that'd be insane. My. My friends would be so vile. You give me this. You already have this. Yeah, he's like this. I'm taking this.
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B
You remember when they brought it back and it was all like, influencers? That were the briefcase models.
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A
Oh, yeah. It was like Sophie Dawson.
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B
Yeah. Mahogany Locks.
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A
Oh, it might have just been Mahogany Locks. Not Sophie Dawsey.
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B
I don't know Sophie Dawsey, but they.
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A
Kind of look similar.
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B
Okay. Yeah, yeah, I remember. And I was like, oh, and there's a lot of different influencers on like, that were. And I was like, so jealous like that.
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A
So, yeah, that was everything. I love both of them. Mahogany's such a sweetie. So is Sophie.
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B
I love her on TikTok. I don't really know. Is that what she's, like, famous for? Is she famous for other things, like being a singer?
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A
She blew up because she was the only girl touring with Magcon. Like Nash, Greer, Cameron, Dallas, all of that.
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B
Oh, she's the original Tom. Yummy. She's with all the boys.
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A
Yes. I toured with her. Actually toured Australia with Mahogany Locks. We're doing what I. God knows what. What did you guys do on stage, Trisha? I was a. It was a set of people. Everyone was a different act. So, like, Mahogany was an act. Like I was an act. What was it? It's giving Traveling circus. It was called.
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B
You were doing. You are like queen of like, just a festivals with random influencers. Yeah. Mahogany Locks tour.
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A
Like what? I did so many random tours.
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B
Was this like Girls Night in or something? Or is it like what it was?
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A
That was a put on by full screen. And I did a million full screen tours at the same time as Girls Night. And I remember that one. That's funny. That you remember that?
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B
That's like a ten hater me, before I learned how to un. I had to unlearn to hate people. But the hater me back then, I was like a couple years older than all these girls. I was like, wow, you go on stage and you just sit there and tell stories how late. But like, now it's like the way to tour. So I don't know. I just.
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A
I was being a hater, but it was a new space. Influencers touring. I got in right when it, like, started, which means things were not figured out yet. So I was like, really, like, doing all these random tours.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
And I would just. I would just go up there and do like a Tana Mojo random rant. Like, there were so many.
- [28:45]
B
I love it. I do love that because that's like, that's amazing.
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A
But just like, how funny. Like, you're going on stage and it's like, oh, what pissed me off that day? And then I'm just like, on a tangent, like, well, it is cool, because.
- [28:56]
B
You changed my mind about podcast tours. Because I always thought, like. Because people had always, like, asked us, like, ask me over the years, like, oh, you should do like a podcast where we're just talking. I was like, that's so boring. And if I did one, I think it'd be boring. But watching you do it, I was like, oh, you make it so interesting because you can just like, talk on stage and then be so engaging.
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A
I'm not very sweet. I mean, I do love to tell a story, so I guess that's like, helped in podcast touring. That's why I, like, also, like, I feel like a lot of people. Well, let me not, like, be a hater. Let me not say a lot of people, but sometimes people will tour like, their exact. Like, I. You. You always want to try to give, like, more like. You know what I mean? Like, tell a story that you wouldn't tell anywhere else or tell a story select to that city. You know what I mean?
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B
That was a good. Yeah. Concept for you. It was like a secret song. It was like, okay, this city. This is what happened here.
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A
Yeah, I was doing that in Australia. I was just telling them, like, up that I had done on previous trips in Australia. It was so fun.
- [29:46]
B
Okay, wait, so back to this one, though. What was the. Who else was on the tour with you guys? The Hogan Ox 1.
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A
Do you know what it was called?
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B
Do you remember what it was called?
- [29:53]
A
I think it was Amplify. Forgive me if it's not. I'm so embarrassing. There were, like, several bands and singers, Nash Greer and Hayes Greer.
- [30:04]
B
And what did they do on stage? Make Vines or what?
- [30:07]
A
I actually don't remember. I was also really drunk. Like, I would just get drunk until show, like, tell my story, get drunk, go to the next city and, like, got my bag and that. That's again, when things were more fun. Touring without Tick Tock was also very interesting because, I don't know, it just left less room for comparison, like, of other people's shows or live shows or what things are supposed to be or.
- [30:33]
B
Better or worse, you think?
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A
I think shows are better now because of Tick Tock. I also think even that, like, now it's, like, so all. So many things I was doing on stage, people weren't gonna film it and post it as a who on YouTube. You know what I mean? So I can get away with telling really crazy stories and, like, being certifiably insane on stage. Whereas now it's like, this is probably gonna make it to tick tock.
- [30:55]
B
Oh, 100. Yeah. You did a good job on the cancel tour. Like, having people not post a Tick Tock because, like, they would never show, like, a story or anything would get leaked. So there was only, like, a few leaks.
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A
And it was like, it was pretty good for the most part, but also for the better. It makes you be like, okay, well, like, if this show is, someone's gonna leave and make make a Tick Tock about how they paid for your show.
- [31:14]
B
So you, like, that is true.
- [31:16]
A
You want to make it good and.
- [31:18]
B
It'S like an instant review. Yeah, it is. I think it's so much better. I don't think I could tour without Tick Tock because also people see it and, like, well, I want to go to that. Including me. Like, I would see so many MCR clips. I'm like, I want to go to those tours so bad. Whereas if I didn't see it or Backstory Boys, even Sphere probably wouldn't have, like, cared to see them. But I'm like, God, I see so many Tik Toks. Like, I want to go. So.
- [31:34]
A
Yeah, it's so true.
- [31:35]
B
It does, but it could influence you the other way too. Or it's just like, like, what is this? Like, what is this?
- [31:39]
A
Yeah, like, that was the worst live show ever.
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B
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A
Oh, my God. I would love and live in that.
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B
All right. Night. Or Danny Osmond. Call us one trade for anything. Why? I wish I could have seen the Amplified tour.
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A
Oh, my God, I'm so happy you did.
- [33:27]
B
That is so cool. I remember when I was on Tour in like 2018, there was this other. It was like, with X1 or like one of these, like a smaller touring company. And do you remember Dobre brothers? Dobre twins. There's like four of them and they would just like, literally go on stage. You remember them? I don't even know what they did or what. Yeah, but they had a lot of really young, like little kid fans. And like, I remember we were like in the same city at the same time. And my shows were at noon for some reason. I don't know, I guess it was cheaper or something.
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A
That was the thing back in the day too, in the 90s, because A, the venues weren't booked out and people hadn't figured out how to like do that properly yet. So that was like a big thing. And also like, so things didn't have to be 18 plus at the time because like, like we were like younger. The fan bases were younger. Like a noon show is crazy.
- [34:10]
B
Shout out to everyone who came to a noon show because, like, what do you mean you're coming to a new.
- [34:14]
A
Yeah, it's crazy.
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B
And. But people did. And I was doing back then with dancers, so I was doing like full on like Britney Spears, like, routines at like noon, like Saturday. It was kind of funny. Nobody would show up. But thank you to the people who did show up. But the Dober brothers, they would just go on stage because I'm like, what do they do on, you know, whatever? And they were literally just big backflip. Like the whole show is them backflipping and that's it. Like, weird.
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A
And like, loved it.
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B
Yes. Because the little kids loved it. And even their mean greets would go viral. I don't know how that went viral because there wasn't tick tock back then. But their mean greets would go viral because they just would give no smiles. They would just like, everyone would just go up there and like, smile and they would just like, stand there. They wouldn't say hi, they wouldn't do anything, anything. And they were just like, stand there and then the next thing goes through. Oh yeah, there was four of them. But maybe there was two twins. Yeah.
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A
Famously known for the two twins. But okay, they're known for being just so dry.
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B
But these little girls would go crazy for like, and little like eight, nine, like.
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A
And that's the other thing too, though. I feel like the original influencer touring was also so much of the money was just because people wanted to meet their favorite influencer. It wasn't necessarily about them. Like, now it's like influencers are held to a higher standard, as they should be, of providing a show, a good show and like, good content. Like, but even like Magcon touring, that wasn't a show at all. That was just meet and greets. Like, they just toured. Like, people just wanted to like, see their faves in person for so long and now it's like Obviously, generations have gotten older and people want more and like, duh.
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B
But that is kind of smart because I thought about that too. Like, I really do love the mean greets. I used to not like mean greets, but I think it's because I had a background, had people handling them. It was kind of chaotic. I like the meet and greets now because it's like, they're. They're so good. It's efficient. Like, everyone's like, very sweet, whatever. But I do like the concept because sometimes I think about that too. I love doing a meet green. All my energy goes to meet greets. I'm like, oh, man, I gotta do a show after this.
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A
You know what I mean?
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B
Like, I. I love the mean green. So I thought about that too. I was like, maybe I just do a tour, just meeting people because it's kind of fun. It is so, too, because in the show's like, oh, now you can hear my songs for an hour.
- [36:03]
A
You know, like, it's just. It's very cute. It is like, oh, I love.
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B
I can't wait for your stuff. Stand up tour.
- [36:08]
A
I know. I was just thinking that I am, like, excited.
- [36:12]
B
Like, how many tours have you done?
- [36:16]
A
Yeah, like, more maybe. I don't know.
- [36:19]
B
Wow.
- [36:19]
A
I've done a lot of touring in my life, which is. It's so blessed. Are you kidding?
- [36:24]
B
A stand up over here?
- [36:25]
A
And that's just like, all the, like, all the word to the fans and people who, like, have loved me and just wanted to come see me. Like, even in Australia, there were so many girls I was meeting who were like, I came to your show in this city 10 years ago and I'm.
- [36:37]
B
Like, that is crazy.
- [36:39]
A
Like, I love you.
- [36:40]
B
And you can't. Yeah, you can't tour without an audience. So if I'm ever on tour, it's because of you guys.
- [36:44]
A
That is, like, why touring is so special too, because it's just like, oh, my God. Like, you look out at the sea of people and it's like, I wouldn't be here if it was not for you. And I'm seeing your face and you're seeing mine, and I'm in your city and thank you for welcoming me here. And like, oh, my God. Oh, I want to go. Go right now.
- [37:01]
B
I know. It's so much fun. Well, I'm on tour. Trishmas November 30th, 30th Long Beach. And then we do Thousand Oaks, New Jersey, Pencil, Pennsylvania, and Vancouver and Washington, DC. And Washington, DC. Thank you for knowing that. How did you Know that.
- [37:16]
A
How did you know?
- [37:17]
B
Washington D.C. on Twitter. And I was like, we love a watching DC And Vancouver have been selling the quickest.
- [37:23]
A
So DC was one of my favorite shows of all time. On the cancel tour.
- [37:28]
B
I did Pride, but I haven't done one of my like own shows there. Why'd you like it? They.
- [37:30]
A
I mean this was the city that Brooke exposed Matt rife in and all the girls came out on stage. So it was a very like iconic special show. But also like the energy in the room was chills right now. Full body. Like it was electric.
- [37:46]
B
Wow. Better than Milwaukee.
- [37:50]
A
Amazing in different ways. Like I do. I do pick favorites with cities and I need to stop doing that. Like, I do have cities that the just ones that stand out more.
- [37:58]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [37:58]
A
And I think everything is situational because sometimes it's like when you're on tour, you're doing shows almost every night of the week and sometimes you'll pull up to a city on like a Monday and you have like a late night show and like these are all college kids who have been drunk for like hours and they've like come down off the drunk and like they're a little tired. Like it's not that like they're not all amazing and didn't buy tickets and don't love you. It's just like. But sometimes it'll be be up Friday night and you're the pregame and like it's a huge venue and like you've never come there and there.
- [38:28]
B
Yeah.
- [38:28]
A
Just it's situational to the.
- [38:30]
B
You know. I love random cities like, like Tyson's Virginia. I'm like never heard of this in my life. But they were so hyped.
- [38:34]
A
Burlington, Vermont. I love you so much.
- [38:35]
B
Yeah. Like those kind of cities like where what. But I love.
- [38:38]
A
And it is cool. It's just like I love us touring too. Just seeing all the cities and seeing all the people.
- [38:44]
B
Yeah. And just like what they're known for. They're like, we have cheese melted in our hamburger patties. I was like, oh, that sounds delicious. I think that was Milwaukee. It was really good.
- [38:52]
A
It is. So that is like one of my favorite. Cause before every show too. I like will sit at some point. Like when I get to the city or before the show, I'll sit for an hour and I'll just learn about the city, what the city's known for, why it's known for that. So then I can kind of write some jokes like into what I'm doing that night to like.
- [39:08]
B
Yes.
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A
Make them feel Special and different to the city.
- [39:11]
B
Yeah.
- [39:11]
A
And then still you'll even get out there on stage and like, maybe you're pronouncing something wrong or you don't. They might hate this thing that Google says they're super known for.
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B
Like, no, not that. I was like, okay.
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A
Or they, like, in so many cities too, they'll have their like, state chant that they like, do the chance at like the.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Their football games or their whatever. They'll do it for you. And it's like, h. I cry every time. Cuz it's like, those are fun.
- [39:32]
B
I. Every time I go to Texas, I was seeing like, yellow. I'm like, yeah, this eyes a Texas. You know, just like doing it. I know it's like really old from like the 60s or something, but people.
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A
Like, yeah, like, wait, but that's iconic. That's funny. Like, just the different things.
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B
That is interesting. I love it. Should we answer a question? We should Yapping.
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A
Could I potty quick?
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B
Yeah. Yes.
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A
Oh, my God, Yes.
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B
Call time. Also, Sophia Richie Green you just saw was pregnant again. She just announced her second pregnancy. Yeah. It took me a minute. I was like, is she pregnant again or is it a throwback?
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A
Oh, my God, that's so exciting.
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B
I love a pregnancy announcement. So fun to see people be pregnant.
- [40:05]
A
I love people just pop them out too. It's like she just. That's so iconic.
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B
Yeah, I know. It's like, just. That's what you got to do. I feel like you have one baby, you're just like, okay, either done or you're just like, all right, we're in the baby mode right now.
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A
God, that's cool. Crazy. That's all. I'm.
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B
I'm.
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A
I get you parasocial and whatever.
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B
Congrats.
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A
Congratulations, Sophia. We do not know each other, but congratulations on your second pregnancy.
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B
I was excited to see that during the break. All right, here we go. Caller number one.
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C
Hello, fairy blonde mothers. Shout out to Devin. I know that I called before a few times and I said the wrong names. I was like, oh, my gosh. Hope it doesn't hit me, but I'm from Miami and I would love to get advice from the divas. If I crashed out or crashed out just enough. Try to make it fast. I met up with this guy Liam a few times, and his own best friend told me that Liam was going around telling everyone that we slept together and we didn't. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna scare him. So I texted Liam all splurgy and invited him to my House. I put on this really cute lingerie outfit that had those sexy thigh straps. And I hid my BB gun that looked really realistic on it. And I put my little silk black robe on top when I opened the door. And he was like, okay, cheese Eva. So then when he came back to the room, I got on top of his lap and I pulled out the BB gun on him. I was like, if you ever spread lies about me again, I'm gonna you up. Then he's like, okay, I won't. And we made out. And it was honestly great. But I would love to know if this was. If this reaction was too crazy or if it was, you know, how she get help or anything like that, you know? Just would love to know you guys. Good advice. Love you guys so much. Love the content. Keep it up. You guys are doing amazing. Thank you, guys. Thanks. Seven. Bye.
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B
The most normal people. She sounded so like people who are so normal at the beginning and end and then just have, like, a crazy story. But, like, okay, but listen, guys, you're doing great.
- [41:52]
A
Favorite energy. It's like, hey, guys, Trisha Tan, I love you so much. Calling into not Loveline. I just pulled the gun on my boyfriend. Do you think this is crazy? Hope this helps.
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B
Bye. Like it help or is it fine? Yes.
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A
So he was spreading lies about her.
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B
It's giving f me with a toothbrush.
- [42:08]
A
Yes. Yes. The executives just called in and said that lies were spread about. So this guy was spreading a lie saying that they had slept together. They hadn't.
- [42:19]
B
Yeah.
- [42:19]
A
So she invited him over. Black robe, lingerie.
- [42:24]
B
I like the BB gun.
- [42:25]
A
That's giving realistic gun. Got him in bed, got on top of him, pulled the fake gun on him, said, never do this again. Then. Then she lost the plot a little.
- [42:36]
B
They made out. She got turned on too. She's like, damn, this hot. Honestly, she was living out her u season 5 fantasy. She was like, okay, here we are.
- [42:46]
A
Okay. Love, Quinn. Okay. I'm not gonna lie. A doctor or a psychiatrist would tell you that this is too far. Or a therapist. But you know, here on Not Loveline, I am not any of those things. Trisha, what do you think?
- [43:04]
B
I guess, like, he was into it. So I would think, like, if he was like. Like, you're crazy. I'd be like, oh, my God, maybe get help. But, like, maybe you found your match. You know, maybe you met your match because he was crazy to spread those rumors about you. And. But then you're like, instead of, like, confronting him, even just normal with a BB guy, she's like I'm gonna put on sexy black lingerie. And so she's just like she. She kind of upped him a little bit on the. Let me just one up.
- [43:27]
A
You take your rumor and spread you fake gun threat. Oh crime.
- [43:31]
B
So she went. She upped it it. And in that case it kind of sounds almost like this like match made in heaven. But yeah, supposing it's not me and just anyone else giving you advice. Maybe not the move. Maybe just block him.
- [43:43]
A
Yeah, definitely. We need a button that's like too far Queen like, like wouldn't recommend to.
- [43:49]
B
Any other caller out there, any other person listening, like, oh, we should do that. Yes.
- [43:53]
A
But I will say there was a time in my life where I was this person. Like if I had the exact same things accessible, like if I had a prop of sorts and like the lingerie, the robe, it's so Mr. And Mrs. Smith like. And men should not spread rumors about sleeping with women.
- [44:12]
B
That part.
- [44:12]
A
And like there is a. Some people believe to let revenge be the universe. Some people say like be someone's revenge. Like it's kind of. That's up in the air for people. You know how they feel on that. So I'm kind of like, I think.
- [44:24]
B
Healed people would say let the universe handle it. I think yeah. The people who just haven't gone through their healing journey yet. Be the revenge. And I think both are kind of valid depending on where you're at in Life. Like, I'm 37, been through it all, so it's like, okay, just let, let the universe work it out. But me five years ago was like, you don't know Hurricane Trish coming through. You know, like, I think it's very.
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A
Yeah.
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B
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B
I'm not going to condemn anyone for this and especially, like, spreading rumors, right? Like, let's teach guys not to do that.
- [46:53]
A
Honestly, the thing about this that's the most jarring to me is that you then made out with him and I get like, the horn. Horniness. You're in the lingerie. Like, I see it, but like, diva, be careful. This man was lying on your name 45 seconds ago. You know, I think that's my advice.
- [47:07]
B
Be careful.
- [47:08]
A
Yeah, maybe one and done. Fun story to tell for the rest of your life. I don't think that you should, like, frequently pull this BB gun on many men.
- [47:15]
B
Can I say, though, could be your future husband. Because this was like me and Moses. I would, like, throw his keys over. Like, I lived in the Hollywood Hill at the time. I threw it over the fence, like, into the woods. I could not get the Keys. And he'd be like so mad. Right. But then we'd always have like sex right after. Like he's just like, well, I'm stuck here, so. Or like if you were wrestling, like, I'd grab the keys from him or his phone and I'd have it like underneath my belly and I'd just be like bent over or something that he just like start having sex with me. And I was just like. So to me, I like, maybe this is like what we do. We just throw, you know, I take his keys and there's some passion.
- [47:45]
A
And a lot of times a passionate, maybe a little toxic situation can turn into a very healthy one.
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B
Sure. Toxic for sure.
- [47:52]
A
It can turn healthy.
- [47:53]
B
Healthy. It did turn healthy. Yeah. That is the. But when I, yeah, wouldn't recommend, but worked for me, I suppose, in finding my husband. And it was, it was great. Like I said, if it's a mutually beneficial thing, you both are like, let's go at it. Like, you know, I guess that's.
- [48:07]
A
Yeah, you know, I could never turn the toxics healthy. I will say me personally, like, anything toxic I was in was toxic until the very end. Like if I was in a situation like this, then we'd just be like pulling real guns on each other, like months later, you know what I mean? Like just we would take it there and take it there and take it there until someone one like literally was like, I'm out. I tap out, you know, like, so I say be wary of meeting, I don't know, like that.
- [48:32]
B
And of course, even my situation, I would never be like, that's great, you guys should stay. Like, that's crazy.
- [48:37]
A
Yeah. But things can work out and like sometimes someone can be there to heal you and calm you down and all those things. I just will say, like a man who spreads a rumor about sleeping with a woman, like, there's some issues up there, I would be wary and. Yeah, just one and done. Fun story to tell. So don't pull that gun out again, diva. Love you.
- [48:57]
B
That's good advice. We're killing it today. Second question. Yes.
- [49:01]
A
Should we take another one?
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C
Hi, Trisha. Hi, Tana. So my name is Maggie and I just kind of wanted to share a story with you guys that I got some inspiration from. I currently work as a personal chef and one of my main Clients is a 92 year old woman and I absolutely adore her. She is wonderful. But I've noticed just from working with her that she still struggles with her body image and she still wants to DIET and she's 92 years old. And it's just broken my heart, but it's also made me really grateful for the progress that I've made with my self love journey. And I kind of just wanted to share that, to say that, you know, if you can do anything now to heal that part of yourself, it's so worth it because imagine being 92 and still worrying about those things. It's just heartbreaking. But yeah, I just wanted to share that kind of as a reminder for everybody and yeah, I love you guys so, so much. Bye. Bye.
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A
What a beautiful person.
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B
Yeah, I love the message she wanted to call in for.
- [50:21]
A
And I think that's so cool. Even just that sometimes someone isn't calling in necessarily seeking advice, but wanting to share. That's like, exactly what I mean when I say not. Loveline feels like such a community. Like, it is. Yes.
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B
Lessons.
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A
She, like, even her looking out for all of the other girls that she knows are listening to this show. Like, that is. Is like so beautiful and moving. Like, I love this era of life. Yeah, it's. It's so cool.
- [50:46]
B
Like, do something now about it. And I. And it is sad. Like, that is so sad. Like 92, 93 years old, like, just still worried about your body. And it's like, yeah, it's. Oh yeah. I always tell people, like, yeah, like, wait till your 30s. You like, stop caring. Like, you know, because you're like, how do you learn to love your body? I'm like, I never did. Did. And then 30s, you just like, also just like, stop caring. I'm just like, I don't know. I don't really care as long as I feel good, whatever.
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A
But God, that's so that this is I. One of those calls that I'll think about for a long time after hearing it. That is like a really, like, moving sentiment that you shared. That's really crazy because I've. I have never thought about that, like, all of. And I am like trying to unlearn so many things right now actively. Just like the beauty standard and like the way I can be to myself and like, you know what I mean? Just body image issues, body dysmorphia, like eating issues. Like, I'm really trying to like, work through so many things right now actively, but I've never thought about like, wow, like, what if I'm 90 and I'm. And I still Facetune download it on my phone. You're wasting your life away like that. What a perspective. Like, because I'm just like, oh, what? Like, you know, What I mean, but if I. Let's say like, I keep face tuning my photos into my 30s and into my 40s and into my 50s and then I'm like 70, but then I mean, like, see that with like, like the, the Kris Jenner, like when I like, it's Lacel and editing. It's. Society wants that to. They want us to literally die feeling like, about ourselves.
- [52:22]
B
Yeah. You, like, lived your whole life worrying about your body. For what? What is your body going with you to the next realm?
- [52:27]
A
No, and I completely understand, like wanting to live as long as possible and preserve your health.
- [52:32]
B
Feeling good.
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A
That's not what I mean. I'm more so thinking about feeling insecure and feeling like, wow, that that's like a very powerful message. Like the wake up call to like, do you really want to be 92? And like. But it is just the world is so against us at the same time. Like, just everything you see online and scrolling and marketing and you need this to be this and all these things, it is like it feels like you're like boxing. Like you're literally having to fight away like all of these things to make you hate yourself, like, all the time. And it is like, it just makes me feel better that everyone feels this way. And Instagram most, a lot of girls, at least I can say, like, feel these things, these pressures and that, like, Instagram is fake and like, we're all just people and I hope we have like an insane reverse where.
- [53:21]
B
I know. I hope so too, because we were talking about like off camera, I was talking about this girl and I was like, oh, wow. She, you know, I, I always, I always looked at people being like thin, being like a complimentary. Wow, she's really thin. And you're like, oh, she's like openly talks about having good user. I was like, oh, I had like, no idea. And you look at someone like that who just like looks so confident, just like. And like, she also, like, she's struggling with her eating. You know what I mean? It's like everyone does go through it. They could be like the most beautiful girl, whatever. And everyone goes through it. And it does suck because you think about when you're talking about face tunes, like, how many hours of your life have you wasted? Face tune. And me too. How many hours of my life have I wasted? Like, not going to a party or not going to the banks. I thought, like, nothing fits me. I won't look good. Like, like I won't be in a photo because, like, you know, and it's Like, I really made a decision early on to, like, not be like that. Like, I'm gonna be in all the photos regardless if I feel fat. And now I just, like, it kind of became acceptance where you're just like, this is. Like, this is my body. Because even, like, the skinniest. Right. We saw. I saw a bunch of skinny girls lately, and even they have all such different body types that no matter how much weight you lose, you could all be £90 and look so different. Someone's knees will always be bigger. Someone arms will be like. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, like, just. I think there's just an acceptance at a certain point where you just have to be like, I'm okay with it. And like you said, feeling good is one thing. Wanting to be strong, all that stuff. Getting energy. Yes. We work out for those reasons. But, like, don't waste your life or don't miss opportunities because you're, like, insecure about your body. Yeah.
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A
And just like, the time. I think that even just the amount of time spent looking in the mirror having a negative thought about yourself, like, when you like it is. It is something you have to wake up every day and actively choose. I think it's like, I have to. It's all about retraining your brain. And it is hard. But at the same time, do we want to be 92?
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B
No.
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A
And look back. Either Ace, they'll be that way, or B, look back and be like, wow, like, I wasted so much of my life doing X, Y, and Z. That is very powerful. And yeah, it's. It's hard out there. It's hard as a woman in today's world. It's always been hard as a woman, but just especially with the beauty standard and stuff. But we got this, and it changes so much.
- [55:15]
B
Beauty standards change so much. Now everyone's into being really thin. But, like, there's eras where people want to be curvy and have big butts or big lips. Back in the day. Day, it was, like, attractive if you were really heavy because it meant you ate or had fertility. Like, you know, so it changes so much beauty standards. Short hair was, like, so in. I remember. What was it like in the. Maybe it was like in the 60s or something. Like, women rebelled by maybe the 50s, too. Like, they would cut their hair because they weren't like, so, like, short hair was like, really? And even though sometimes long hair is considered sexual sexy, like, it changes so much.
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A
Funny if that too. That all these things are, like, trends, when in reality, like, yeah, like we're all just beautiful. And I always say this, and I mean this when I say this. Even if me falling into the negative sides of the beauty standards still happen and I have to stand back up and fight against it, I still mean this. 100 with 100 of me when I say it. How you look is the least interesting thing about you. Like whether you look beautiful.
- [56:07]
B
What?
- [56:08]
A
No matter what, how you look is the least interesting thing about you. Like being intelligent, being kind, being honest, being smart, being funny, witty. Like there's so many things that are so much more interesting that we all possess.
- [56:19]
B
Yeah, I agree with that for sure. And then, you know, when people do from like, I think some you're somebody's type. I also say that too. Like, I feel like I get a lot of like big girls because obviously I'm a big girl. Like talking to me and be like, how do you, how do you have confidence? How do you not feel self conscious? And I think it's like there are so many people. Like, if you are worried about people finding you attractive, attractive, don't be because like there's a lot of people that find you attractive. Like, I never had an issue ever. I had my own insecurities, but I never had an issue with like finding like a guy to find me attractive. You know what I mean? Like sex or kissing or dating. Like, I never, never. I found bad guys because I attracted bad with like just my own insecurities. But like I never had an issue ever with people finding me attractive.
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A
And there are just a billion people on this planet and there are good people who. You know what I mean? Just like it's about more than looks, you know what I mean? Like, just like they want you for your soul and your mind and even like, like as corny as Love is blind can be, I love watching Love is Blind. Like there's a new season out right now because it is so fascinating to see these people go in and do this experiment of meeting their, their future partner without ever seeing them and like taking that all away and like watching these people go through the struggles of that. Like, do looks matter? Do they not matter? And like, I love the concept.
- [57:32]
B
Have you watched it fully to like the up to the date to like the honey, like going to on their trip on their vacation.
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A
The new season. Yeah, not the newest.
- [57:39]
B
Oh, you haven't watched any of the new one.
- [57:41]
A
I started it, but I haven't finished.
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B
This one because I love the concept of it too. And I love it. I get so like, oh my God, they're, like, meeting someone behind the screen. Like, I'm falling in love with the screen, and I'm falling. Like, I love it so much. But then when they meet in person, it all is ruined. And it's always the guys ruining this. Yeah, they're always disappointed. I didn't think she was gonna look like that. What the. And then they. There's guys that they cheat. There was one girl in there, she's like, well. She goes, yeah. He goes, you know, I wasn't. My parents weren't friends from America, so I got, like, teased a lot as a kid. Or. She goes, oh, well, what ethnicity are you? That's not the point of the show. Like, well, you want me to tell you? Like, yeah. He's like, well, I don't know. Like, she's, like, forcing him. I'm like, not the point of the show. Everybody. Like, not the point of the show. And it pissed me off.
- [58:19]
A
It is crazy because you see how many people are good people and bad people so quickly on it. That's why I'm so interested.
- [58:26]
B
Like, this season's crazy with, like, just shallow. Like, just the worst people in the season.
- [58:32]
A
I saw the one guy where his reaction was. Was not good.
- [58:36]
B
And he's even worse when she. They're on their, like, trip together and stuff. Like, he's even worse.
- [58:40]
A
And I just, like, I need to finish that tonight.
- [58:42]
B
Yeah, he.
- [58:43]
A
Oh, my. And it's like, he was. It was just crazy. It was just actually crazy. He reacted as though, like an animal with, like, nine legs and one eye came out. This girl, mind you, was a supermodel. And this man, like, looked like the thumb from Spy Kids.
- [58:59]
B
Remember that one who did look like a thumb? And he's like, oh, she said she looked like Megan F. Fox. And like, she. You know, he's like, yeah.
- [59:04]
A
And that started that whole thing. And it's like, she has blue eyes and, like, darker hair. You're not supposed to care. Like, now, did you only pick her because you were imagining Megan Fox the entire time? That's the entire, like, not the purpose of the show. It is. It is wild.
- [59:18]
B
It is so annoying. And then. Then it's one thing to have, like, a bad reaction because maybe. Maybe it is someone different than what you pictured. Okay, fine. But then when they do the interviews, which are filmed so much later, and they just keep going, like, not my usual type. Not what I wanted. I was like, why are you being an. Like, yeah.
- [59:32]
A
And it's like, then go out and find your type. Like, you Went on love.
- [59:35]
B
It's blind.
- [59:36]
A
Be. I can't even spell. I'm. Whatever.
- [59:39]
B
Blind.
- [59:39]
A
You went on love is blind.
- [59:40]
B
I know. I love the concept, but they're ruining that show, and I'm like, okay.
- [59:43]
A
I know, I know. But it is just so interesting to see, like, is love really.
- [59:47]
B
It's not. Yeah. But me and Moses were not each other's types. Like, people we dated before. We were not each other's, like, types.
- [59:53]
A
So same with me and Makoa.
- [59:55]
B
Yeah, that's interesting.
- [59:56]
A
And then it ended up being like, wow, wow, like, you're my soulmate.
- [60:00]
B
Is interesting. Like, I don't know all your exes, but just, like, the ones publicly. I'm like, yeah, he is so, like.
- [60:04]
A
Different than, like, but, like, significantly but. He's so beautiful and perfect. But, like, I truly would love Makoa, and I. I hope and think and believe that vice versa. Same thing. Like, no matter what we looked like. You know what I mean? Oh, for sure.
- [60:16]
B
I always tell Moses that because, like, I do love his, like, hair and stuff like that. But then I'm like, you know what? Even if you're a bald. Because I don't really have a bald. But I was like, if you're bald, I'd love you.
- [60:22]
A
Yeah.
- [60:23]
B
I find you attractive. I'd be like, let's shave our heads together.
- [60:25]
A
Yes, exactly.
- [60:26]
B
That's like.
- [60:26]
A
That's what it is. Like, I. I know for a fact I would love him no matter what.
- [60:29]
B
Yeah. Well, that is real love.
- [60:31]
A
Yeah. Love. My love would be blind for him.
- [60:33]
B
Superficial love. One more. We're on a roll. Three calls.
- [60:38]
A
This is our fourth.
- [60:39]
B
Fourth. No.
- [60:40]
A
Oh, no. Are you sure?
- [60:42]
B
No, you went to the bathroom, and.
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A
We were gonna take a call then. And then I got you outside, tracked with a different combo. Have we still not taken a call since I've been back from the bathroom?
- [60:50]
B
Take it too.
- [60:52]
A
I don't know where I am. I literally don't know where I am. Oh, my God. Like, she said, where am I? Like, literally.
- [61:01]
B
No, I'm waiting. No doubt, because we did do, like, not only did we do a full photo shoot.
- [61:06]
A
That's what it is.
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B
But, like, you did the prosthetics. We did that makeup. That's why, like, when you were getting your makeup done, I went upstairs for a minute because I just knew how, like, chaotic the day was gonna be, and I was like, I just seen, like, a minute. And then because I knew we're gonna be talking loud for this. Obviously, we love everyone involves. It's like, photographer like, set.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Aesthetic. Like, I saw costuming this morning. I went to yoga's first. I was just like, it was the fullest. And I'm feeling it, too. I'm just like, the heart start, like, coming off the wall at some point.
- [61:28]
A
Where I'm like, agree with you more. Like, I'm just. That's 100% what it is. Because we'll film a million not love lines in a day. But, like, I had a prosthetic neck on before this, and, like, my neck right now burns. And, like, I'm trying to just lock into this call, but, like, all I'm thinking is, like, God, I need a cream or salve. I need a cream or a salve or an oil or something. Like, I. It's. Look at it.
- [61:50]
B
Okay. It doesn't look too terrible, but, Yeah, I believe you. If you're saying it burns, we need to get you in an oatmeal bath asap. Yes.
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A
Like, oh, no. But, I mean, that's. I also do love. I was saying with the battle scars of Halloween. I'm so grateful. We just have. We had a whole photo shoot today, too.
- [62:04]
B
A big one. Like, big photo shoot set and, like, video and, like, yes. Just a lot happening costume. And. Yeah, it's a whole.
- [62:11]
A
So I'm like, people are calling in. I'm like, where am I? But we love it. We're so grateful. That was me just telling you, like, I'm on zero. But sometimes that's when the goofiest.
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B
Well, let's take a call. Our first call. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much to Tinder for sponsoring today's episode of Not Love Lying.
- [62:31]
A
All right, let's talk about Tinder. Or better yet, let's talk about that deliciously dulu stage of having a new crush. The kind of crush that knocks you down bad, but in the best way.
- [62:42]
B
Your heart is melting. Your mind is altering. You're cinematically gazing out of car windows.
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A
Amazing news. That crush feeling is waiting for you on Tinder. Like, literally right now.
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B
Just imagine the possibilities when you have a crush on someone. They could text you, hey, smiley face. On the worst day of your life, and boom. Suddenly your brain has never had a thought about anything, ever. Life is perfect.
- [63:04]
A
It sounds dramatic, because it is. I mean, even the most mundane moments become monumental with a crush. You start clocking things like the sky's exact shade of blue at the time you hear from them on a random Tuesday.
- [63:16]
B
We all know that there's no better feeling. And finding a new crush is Easier than you think. Thanks to Tinder.
- [63:20]
A
Explore all of the possibilities for your yourself, Tinder. It starts with a swipe. Download Tinder today.
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B
We love you, Tinder.
- [63:28]
A
We love you, Tinder. Seriously, go on a Tinder date. Call us. We love the team.
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B
First call since you went to the bathroom.
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C
Hey, Trish and Tana. My name is Riley. I just wanted to call and say thank you for opening up the social media to the awareness of postpartum and anxiety and depression. I have a two year old daughter and postpartum wrecked me. It was the most hardest thing I ever had to go through in my life. And you guys podcast and your channels and all of that just really, really helped me. I love both of y'. All. I love yalls arrows right now. Y' all are both just glowing and I'm so proud of both of y'.
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B
All.
- [64:19]
C
I just want to say thank you and keep going. Y' all are amazing and just we are the real fans, you know, we've been here since day one and we love you. Keep going. Don't let anyone get you down. And Jesus loves you.
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A
And here I am. Shut the the up, Tiana.
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B
Jesus loves you.
- [64:49]
A
I love a southern belt too.
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B
Like Jesus loves you.
- [64:52]
A
She's so cute. I just want to. I literally love a Southern bell so.
- [64:56]
B
Much, I want to give her a hug. Southern people are just sweet. Every Southern show between tour is. They're all just like so nice.
- [65:01]
A
It's the, it's that southern hospitality dog.
- [65:03]
B
Yeah.
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A
Like it's so cute and like, can I just say, like how poetic. Like moving all of the beautiful things that life has to offer that she's calling about like such a low point and like I, I can only imagine feeling like you have nothing left to give in all those things. And then she still gave so much love to another human. Like human beings can be so incredible. Like people at their darkest still have love to give to others and I just want to like give you your flowers girl for that. For just being the loving woman that you are. Are after going through so much.
- [65:38]
B
Yeah, that was beautiful. And we love it. We love sharing. We were talking about that like again before we were like filming and just like thankful to go through everything and be like, we always overshare but it's like fun. Not fun, but nice to be an overshare when it comes to like the dark stuff too. Like the heavy stuff. Cuz not everyone wants to talk about it. I love that more people are talking about like anxiety and depression and postpartum depression all that stuff like that, because it just feels normal. Because it is. And that's, like, the one part where I'm, like, glad we're, like, over for sharers, because I feel like it can help somebody listening. Because I, during my postpartum depression, still going through it all the time. Like, I. I watch so many other videos to either be like, oh, they're going through the exact same thing, or this person's going through it, like, way worse. And not to, like, compare, but you're just like, oh, like, that's a whole other level. So you can kind of gauge where you're at. Like, do you need help? Do you just need support? Do you need to, like, go check in somewhere or, like, you know what I mean? It's like, all that stuff is really important, kind of topical. But, like, Kevin Federline recently has, like, come out about Britney Spears and being. Being like, you know, she was this horrible mom, and she was, like, standing with a knife over them, like, just, like, really airing out all her mental health stuff. Have you ever seen any of this? He has, like, a book coming out, so he's been, like, going into Britney, saying, call Justin Timber. Like, the night before I went. Just, like, airing out everything, just being like, I'm worried about her. I think she's not gonna be here for our son, just, like. But, like, not in the I'm worried about her way. And, like, I'm trying to make money off this book way. This also comes after their youngest son just turned 18, so he's no longer getting, like, child support, spouse support, I'm assuming. But it was just, like, really of him to, like, come for her, like, parenting, like, when he was with her because they were only together for a short amount of time when she had the boys. And so I was, like, a couple years into it or whatever. And it's like, going through postpartum depression, which I'm sure she had because she had two boys back to back within a year. And obviously we saw all her, like, the paparazzi calling her bad mom if she would, like, wobble if she was wearing wedges, whatever. Like, she probably had such bad postpartum. And then this guy's, like, trying to make, like, like, a dollar offer. It's like, so. So she responded today as of filming this, and she responded. I was like, this gaslighting is insane. Like, she. I'm glad she stood up for herself because it was like. Like, we see Britney from one perspective, then we hear Kevin Federline. We never really heard from Britney. So like her responding today like gave me hope for the way you can like counteract someone gaslighting you. I don't know, it's just like watching a public figure be open. And the way she was with this letter, I was like, oh, I love this, you know, so.
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A
Yeah. And it's how much people resonate with that openness. I mean I could go on an hour tangent about how Britney was so robbed, you know what I mean? Just robbed of everything. Even now when she posts videos then people are like, oh my God, she's crazy. Like they should have never taken. Like she should have her conservatorship back. It's like what do you think made her this way? And like it's so wild. The public just switches. Like, like the fact that like truly like. And obviously I don't hope for this. I don't even want to manifest this. Like I hope she leads a peaceful life. But like honestly the public will probably be upper and awful until she.
- [68:29]
B
Yeah.
- [68:29]
A
One day leaves us, you know. And like how sad is that?
- [68:33]
B
Well, we saw that with like Princess Diana, like just like the immediate. Just being so awful to her. Oh my God. What did you Prince. Did she die before you were born? So you probably don't remember Princess Diana's death. Was it 95, 97.
- [68:43]
A
I think we were too young.
- [68:45]
B
You are? Yeah. Okay, so you don't remember it? Like I remember it so vividly, like even before she died. Does I remember what year? Yeah. Oh my God, what year? We were 98. 98. Oh that is so crazy because I was like young of course. But I remember it so vividly. And they were just treated her like, like the paparazzi would hound her. The like it was like, oh this. Like she was even though Prince Charles was the cheater. They like made her be like, look at her. And it's like she was like in a black knee length dress with black tights and like, oh, she's like, look at her being like the version of her like just being so awful to her. We saw that with Anna Nicole. We saw that with so many people up until like their deaths. And then people turn around like with Anna Nicole too. It's like she was a legend. She was an icon. I'm like, you guys just called her a drug addict and that she shouldn't have kids. Saving the Prince. Diana, you called her like call her all these things because. Because Charles cheated on her. Like it was just so know, insane. And you're right.
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A
Yeah. Just so many women dead.
- [69:31]
B
And I do love now that I think, like, women supporting women and people just trying to, like, hype up women. Like, well, including Britney. I hope, like, all the Britney stands and stuff, like, they rally for her. And I hope they continue to, because I think girls used to join in on it on the Princess Diana hate and the Internet, Cole hate. But I, like, now, like, girls are trying to be like, the mental health of it all. Like, hey, like, even the shaving the head days, anything. It's like, all the stuff you're describing, if it's true, like her holding a knife in the boys's bedroom, allegedly, like, obviously going through something. Obviously, you put her in this conservatorship because of her kids. You threatened to take them away.
- [70:05]
A
Was he a part of putting her in it?
- [70:06]
B
Yes, they were literally, like, you can't. You won't be able to see your kids. If you want a conservatorship, then you can see your kids. And she's like, of course I would, like, sign over anything. And, yeah, I mean, allegedly, he's a part of it, but he's a part of it. Like, you know what I mean? And it's just. It's so sick. And then now that the money's, like, dried up for him, he's like, I'm writing this memoir not about his life, but about Bernie's life. And I was like, I hate it.
- [70:24]
A
That is so about her life. That's where up. It's like, it's. It's one thing if it's your own.
- [70:28]
B
Life and yeah, chapter when you were married to her, but the fact that it's, like, all about her mental health. All these interviews are just about her mental health. It's like, you're. You're the cause. You're. You're the cause of so much of this.
- [70:37]
A
That is so sad and good for her for standing up. I think that that's. That kind of, like, ties into all of this, like, women being vulnerable and standing up for themselves and talking about their experiences and stuff. Like, even this, like, I was talking to you about this off camera today, but the amount of you talking about your postpartum, like, things that you were feeling has helped so many people. And I'm always telling other influencers that, like, even, like right now, I have an influencer friend who's, like, going through a lot and, like, over shares a lot of things about their life when it's positive, but not necessarily when it's negative. And I always encourage people. I'm like, maybe you don't want to some People want to be private. But, like, if you do share something thing, like the way just talking about it, like, even calling in or telling a friend or just sharing and talking about it can be so fulfilling because, like, wow, if this horrible thing that's happening to me can help one person, what a new purpose in life for that, like, horrible thing.
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B
Yeah. You know, and let people know that you're, like, not alone and people are, like, afraid to admit stuff and.
- [71:36]
A
Yeah, all of that. So just normalize vulnerability. It's. It's so helpful.
- [71:40]
B
Like, just helpful and healing. I. I love sharing it and it makes me feel better when I see comments like, you're not alone, alone. You'll have a couple people maybe judge you or whatever. But honestly, there's so much more of the good outweighs the bad. And, like, I do love this, like, healing era and people being aware of mental health and not just calling people crazy. Like Britney Spears back in, like, 2007, like, oh, she's crazy. It's like, well, what led her up to that point? You know what I mean? Like, why Is she there?
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A
100.
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B
But we love you. Yeah.
- [72:04]
A
Thank you. What a sweet call that was. Our little Southern.
- [72:07]
B
Southern bells.
- [72:08]
A
We love her.
- [72:09]
B
We love you guys. Thanks for kicking it with us. Yes.
- [72:12]
A
Thanks for hanging out with us. With us, you guys. And you look so cool in your.
- [72:15]
B
In your alloy. They send it to you?
- [72:17]
A
No, I bought this full price. And I was gonna say some crazy, but I honestly, I want them to send it to me.
- [72:22]
B
So it's cozy. It looks cozy.
- [72:24]
A
It's pilling like, it's Hanes. They're never gonna send me anything, like, ever.
- [72:30]
B
But honest, the vulnerability. Is there an owl sweats?
- [72:33]
A
I. I actually do really like them. I really do. Like, I wear them all the time, clearly. But, like, it is three. Three metal letters on the same quality as Gildan or Hanes. And I feel like I'm, like, standing out on the front lines to say this right now, but, like, I'm never getting invited to that gym either way. And Amazon Hanes.
- [72:52]
B
Yeah, I will say that, well, is very comfy. I'm loving the quality of this. Like, it's actually really soft. Oh, yeah. I, like, love this sweatsuit. I'm not kidding, like, at all.
- [73:02]
A
It's. It's the feel, like, go inside, go in the sleeve.
- [73:05]
B
Even from the outside. Outside, it's like, that's. Oh, it's Hanes. But we love Hanes.
- [73:09]
A
But that's what I'm saying. Like, and then there's like, it's like one.
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B
Yeah.
- [73:13]
A
I don't know.
- [73:14]
B
This just put T A N A like in metal there. Because it's like.
- [73:17]
A
We love a black crew neck and sweats.
- [73:19]
B
But like it's not 20 bucks quality. Because skims quality is amazing. Insane.
- [73:23]
A
Worth the money and cheaper. Is it Alo's expensive, right? Like an aloe sweatset.
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B
I have no idea. Because they don't go above a large.
- [73:30]
A
Let me ask the executives and I know we can make this right.
- [73:36]
B
150. 150.
- [73:39]
A
Per piece or total?
- [73:41]
B
It's looking like per piece. Per piece. What are they? Das Mendoza. I'd rather buy his hoodie any day. That's crazy.
- [73:49]
A
That is so funny.
- [73:51]
B
That's wild. At least he has little double ears on his. What is the customation in that? There's nothing.
- [73:56]
A
I can peel this. Whatever.
- [73:57]
B
We love these bottles.
- [73:59]
A
We love you so much. Much.
- [74:00]
B
Thanks for watching. We'll see you in the next one. Yes. Bye, guys. Bye.