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And it's like a conversation that happened.
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I remember my takeaway being like, wow. I think that if I was a man, he would have, like, tried to fight me. Like, that was what his.
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Like, scary.
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Like, at least that's what my perception of that was.
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All right, here we are.
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Hello.
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Welcome to. Baddies are trending.
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Yes, Trendy baddies. Because Amari and Devin have their crop shirts. Right now they're showing a little feline. They're really giving.
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It's funny, but it's not. It's if they were oversized and they cut them themselves to be at the belt.
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What did Amari just say? Martha Stewart Baddie. Diy. Baddie.
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Diy. Baddie. Yes. And Twink death is the other one we just learned.
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Yes.
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Twink death with the goatee.
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Whenever Amari has facial hair, all his comments are twink death.
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I love it. That should be the merch. I like the vibes. It's early. It feels. It's like not early, but it feels early.
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I know it does. It does.
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Early, I guess.
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I was asleep, like 20 minutes ago, I swear to God. Like, I just, I woke up, I, like, got glam so fast. I was wearing this yesterday.
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We've been going. You said this is an outfit that's been 24 hours in the making but have not taken it off.
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Sometimes when you like an outfit, you absolutely have to just wear it back.
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Over and over and over again. What were you doing in the past 24 hours in this outfit?
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Well, you know what's funny. Yeah, it's okay because I'll say anything ever. The only time I can't say anything, it's because someone else.
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That's the only time you wore this outfit yesterday was before that specific thing.
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You can't talk about because I have, like, a low. Okay. I think that. I think that, like, the mass of my is in the bottom. So when I wear tops like this, it's kind of like, classier. It like, deletes my.
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You are giving classy in that, but.
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It'S not like cleavage.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's so funny. Your boobs do look different every top that you wear.
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Yeah. Like, sometimes they're less fake unless they're pushed up because, like, that's where the mass of my is. Is, like in the bottom of my.
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Oh, my God, I love them. I want to get. I. We're. I was just talking with literally Bunny yesterday about explanting. Yeah, I want to get mine out.
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Yes, we were talking about that.
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Did we talk about it?
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Yeah, we talked about it too, I think on one of these episodes.
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Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But are you doing it?
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Yeah, I think I really have to now because I really do think they're, like, making me sick. And yeah, we did talk about. This is giving me deja vu because I do love all the, like, 20 year olds doing it for themselves. Because, like, that was the thing. But after 20 years, I think it's time to, you know, get these. They slowly kill you after 20 years, if that.
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Which is so crazy that something is so normalized in society that's like, yeah, slowly killing you. I mean, they look good, but, like, you know.
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Right. And I. I never want anyone to, like, think that I. I would still get them, but I don't want to be in another 10 years getting surgery at 50 to, like. So I'm going to get them. Bunny showed me her before and after, and she got a fat transfer. I don't know if she got a fat transfer, but she said you can get a fat transfer into your boobs. Belly into boobs.
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But that's so fun.
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But we already talked about that. I know we were gonna talk about something. Oh, you want. You were like. I'll tell you on the podcast. It was it the tart. The party.
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Oh, my God, Trisha. Yeah, I just. Oh, my God. I like, it's. I literally was on a tangent the other day yelling, and I was like, this is why Trisha doesn't go to. This is why Trisha. Like, I was, like, losing it because, no, like, you are. You go to the things that are important and that you want to go to, but you are selective when it comes to the things that you attend in Los Angeles for your piece. And I idolize that. Like, I truly. I want to emulate that in every way. And it's like just. Oh, my God.
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Like, was it a party you were going to or the party you're throwing that you're over?
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I. It's parties I went to. Like, I went to two, and both of them were for my friends. So I'm going to, like, support two of my, like, best friends for their events. And it was nothing to do with them as people. It was just, like, the LA crowd that pours into these parties. Like, I just can't believe there was ever a time in my life that I would attend a party, like, five times a week and, like, be around all of these people. And I've been gone on tour, so I just really, like, have been out of the LA scene. And, like, I'm back in LA and I'm trying to, like, honestly reintegrate myself into my life. Like, you know, just, like, see the people that I love and even, like, figure out new things that I enjoy doing in this era. Like, I've. I started a trivia group like, we go to. That's where I'm at. Trivia, bowling, movies. Like, that's who I am. That's everything these days, you know? But obviously, if your friend is doing something, you know, like. Like, Trevi just released a song. That was one of them. Brooke released a.
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The hair dryer.
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Yes. A hair product.
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Yeah.
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And so I, like, I love them both. And I have to, like, go and show up and support my friends and, like, it's nothing to do with them or even, like, our close friends. It's just, like, the people that you haven't seen in so long, and the last time you saw them was, like, at a party. Like, I walked into Trevi's party, I think, and someone came up to me and they were like, we were doing in so and so's apartment, like, three years or, like, what are. Whatever. Do you know? Yes. And I was like, you're probably right. Yeah, that probably was me.
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Don't remind me. I don't want to know.
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Like, and it's just. It's crazy because so many people are still obviously there. And, like, I don't know, it's just like, I'm throwing this party, too, for my, like, tarte lip product.
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So excited.
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And it made me really because, like, you see the guest list and it's like, oh, I need 200 people there. Like, whatever the amount of people is for the thing.
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200 is crazy. That's like a wedding.
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That's what I know. And I used to throw 500 people to the party. Like, I used to. Yes. Like, no question. I would just be like, yes, your phone.
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You're like, texting 500 people. Well, yeah, yeah, but I guess, yeah, people bring people. But.
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And like, yeah, people bring people and whatever. But, like, I'm at this point where I'm like, I would rather it be 25 people that I love. And, like, but then it doesn't look.
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Like, full in the picture. Do you ever think about that? Like, even for my kids birthdays, I'm like, is it going to sound full when people are saying. Which is, like, so stupid. Like, you know, and it's such an Internet thing because, like, I really don't care if there's like, three people. But it is, like, a thing. You think? Because even for Elvis's. We took pictures before. But, like, you know, like, two people will be like, there's no one at the party. And so then I have to show, like, the happy birthday and hear everyone singing. Like, no, there were like, 30 people here. I just want to show them. It's so dumb, though. Like, why you have to prove yourself so funny.
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Like, it's like, why are you commenting? Yeah, you think no one's at a kid's birthday party, right?
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Because of the kids party. Like, yours is like a launch. So it's like, obviously you're trying to do it for promotion, but, like, a kids party, like, who the touch grass like me is also, like, proving, like, putting the happy birthday song on there. Listen, you can hear the people.
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But yeah, like, but, like, no, you're so real. Because it is this, like, where I'm like, okay, I need to fill the room, but I want to be, like, selective because I want to enjoy myself. And, like, just, like, I don't know. Know. It's very interesting. Like, and I want to be the supportive friend still. Right? Like, I'm so proud of Brooke and I'm so proud of Trevi. But, like, the, like, party scene can be, like, so much.
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What was it? What was like, the.
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I'm just sober, I think is like, obviously one thing. I hate yelling over loud music.
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Like, you're like, you're like my age. You're like a 37.
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You're like a millennial.
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Just, like, over loud music. I love it.
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It Hurts. I can't hear myself.
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Yes.
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Why are you playing EDM right now? Like, it's just like, we don't, like. I don't know. I ha. And it's, like, so funny because there are LA events where, like, it feels worth it and all of these things, and, like, you want to go maybe network a little, like, maybe meet some people and, like, whatever. But then it's like, oh, my. Just when, like, random people are cornering you to network about something that just.
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Like, so much anxiety and.
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Yeah, it's like, a lot like.
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I think you'd be good at it, though. I never been out in, like, a social setting with you, so I don't know, but I feel like you're, like, so good at, like, schmoozing.
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I think if I want to be in the conversation, I'm like, yeah. And no matter what, I'm not always be, like, so nice to people. But it's. I. I think it's harder without alcohol to have conversations that you genuinely don't want to have. Like, someone's jaws swinging on, and they're like, this new AI platform is going to change your life.
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And it's like, is that an actual conversation that happened?
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Yes. And it's just like, come on, I don't want to be an AI robot anyway. You need a tequila soda for those.
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You know, like, it's just like, oh, that sounds awful. I've never had that. I don't know what that sounds like.
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I mean, I never will again.
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But tequila soda sounds crazy.
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Y little. I'm kind of nasty. You're right.
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And you have, like. No, I mean, I know you're, like, not an alcoholic, but you have, like, no temptation to, like, drink. You're like, I'm so good.
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No, I think it's like, even if I do, I'm just well aware that the, like, cons heavily outweigh the pros. You know what I mean? Like, of course, in that moment where someone's job pitching their AI to me, I wish I could take a shot, but I can't take one shot, you know?
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So it's like, can you say no to that kind of thing? Or they're, like, so out of their mind. So you're like, yeah, yeah, we'll do it. And then just, like, never follow up.
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That's kind of. My new thing has been my emails in my Instagram biology. Oh, I love my poor managers.
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That's good. That's a good one. Just email me.
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It's in my Instagram. I love that it's not happening. Yeah, because that's the thing too. You want to always, like. I don't know, I just feel such a, like, pressure to always, like, make sure the other person doesn't feel uncomfortable or like, you know what I mean? Like, has a good night. Like, that I was nice and like, I never want to be rude to someone ever. That is like the one thing. So it's like, if I go out to things, especially things like that, like, I know I'm subjecting myself to maybe, like, I'm not good. I might not have the most fun, but I'm being a good friend and I'm listening to people pitch their AI platforms.
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You never know too. Maybe that AI platform is going to be huge or something.
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That's true. It's true.
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Rarely network, but like, two times I went out last year to, like, events in la. I was like, yeah. I met people that, like, actually, like, came through stuff. Like, I would listen to them talk and I'd be like, oh, yeah, right, whatever. And then like, literally a month later, like a big thing came through them.
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It depends too, because there are certain LA parties where it is, like, I'm happy to be there.
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Yeah.
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And like, enjoying the conversations I'm having or meeting people that I really like. You know what I mean? They're so talented and I'm so, like, you know what I mean? Enamored by or whatever it is. Or like the networking. It just. It just depends. Sometimes you walk into a party and everyone's just the. Yeah.
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Especially influencer ones.
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Or like, I swear, sometimes it's like something's in the air and people are just extra clout hungry, like extra hungry tiger. And then I'm like, doing this all. And I'm like, but that's. That's L. A. You know what I mean?
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Do you find yourself knowing the influencers or do you think they're all, like, younger, you know, all them? Basically, I kind of know.
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I like, really keep up and I've like, lived so many lives that it isn't like, necessarily like people are strangers. It's more like they have known past versions of me, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, and I was like, in a different space, you know, because, like, drunk me would be like, matching them, talking about that AI platform all night or like, you know what I mean? Just doing all the crazy things. So I definitely just like, have made my rounds in la.
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That would be so. Yeah, that to me, that'd be like. My biggest fear is, like, running into people. Like, I Said, I don't even know if people my age are still influencers. Like, I really do think. And I don't even think of that in a bad way. I'm like, we were talking about, like, the Tyler Oakley and the Grace Hell, but I'm like, maybe they just made so much money. They're just like, I don't need to do this anymore.
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I think what I love about you and I is, like, we'll probably do this in certain capacities for the rest of our lives.
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I don't know. I always say this. I don't know what people do. Like, even if I was like. Like, I love the lottery, and I. And I always say, I'm gonna win the lottery, but even I won. Like, I was like, yeah, we'll just, like, take a year off. And I was like, you would never. You would make 5,000 more music videos. He's like, you'll build more sets, more houses. And it was so real. Like, I'll just be like, I'll buy a TV station for us to put not Loveline on. You know what I mean? Just something extra.
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That's so. I love how, like, he knows you so well because it's so true.
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And it's probably true because I do love, like, music videos, like, things that cost money. I'm like, yeah, probably still.
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But, like, we're also passionate about this. You know what I mean? Like, we love that. We love the output. We love, like, I love it serving, like, doing something iconic.
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Well, I also love. Did you see output or input just now?
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Output.
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What does that mean? Because I was putting out. Yes. Yeah. I love the output to get the input back. Like, I love reading comments. Like, I can't even imagine. Like, it's so weird to me when people don't post. Like, I'm like, don't you want, like, comments? Don't you want to see what people are saying about you today? Like, it's so fun. I don't know.
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It is so fun. It's okay. It's hard, though. I, like, teeter a line because it's like, I love them and I do intake them, but I have to, like, really be so careful to not place too much of my value in them.
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Of course. Yeah.
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Because it is, like, a fine line. Like, I can look back at some areas of my life where, like, that view number, those comments, like, literally defined who I was. And, like, oh, you know what I mean? Like, I get. I have to, like, walk this tightrope with that.
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You know, I'm in an era of good comments. Like, knock on wood. Like, I have, like, really good comments. I'm like, obsessing over them because, like, wow, I get so much love and.
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Like, you deserve it so much. Like, well, it's just cool that you're in this. Oh, stop it.
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Well, I was saying about like, meeting someone from my past, it's like, not even they would say anything. It's just like, would I immediately, like, get triggered? You know what I mean? Like, I just see. You know how like, sometimes you just see a person even online, and I like, weirdly get triggered. Like, it is hard for me. We talk about, like, hot topics, but, like, talking about like a David or something that pops up, I'm like, I weirdly get triggered. Like, I can't even watch a vlog for hot topics because I'm like, weirdly triggered over something that happened six years ago.
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I agree with that. Oh, my God. I actually, I'm debating that, like, segued me into something that I, like, want to talk about, but I don't know if I do.
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Is it like, can you, like, genrify it?
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Okay, let me, let me, let me try to Chris generify it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like, BPR safe. I'm okay. Jeff Wittek posted a podcast recently with Todd Smith. See, here I am going. I know I, Yeah, I've been fighting demons. Okay, I can say this. I can say this. I've been fighting demons to like, not be old me. I like, oh, yeah, it's. And I like, I do so good with it now, you know, like, truly, like, just not bringing things up and whatnot. But it. I think that I'm realizing, and it's. It's not fair for me, I guess, to maybe be this way. But like, one of my triggers as a person is when someone lies on something that I just told the complete and utter truth about. Like, you know what I mean? Oh, my God. I know where I wanted to go. I wanted to bring up the pool. I wanted to, like, say all the.
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Things and like, you just didn't. I know you have been on that and it's. I. I know exactly how you feel because it's like that, that's happened to me. Like, very few people have, like, lied about me. You know what I mean? Like, because for me, like, it's easy to find out the truth about something, right? So, like, when someone has, like, lied about, it is so frustrating. And there's no, like, arguing. There's no amount of, like, competing or trying to convince people because it's Just a lie. Like, you can't even, like. Yeah, it's hard and.
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Exactly.
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You don't want to break your streak either of not reacting. You know what I mean? That's how I feel. I feel like I haven't reacted to people. People try to push and trigger, and I'm like, oh, I don't want to break the streak because of, like, one thing that, like, really irritates me. But those. And then it's like. But that's not the truth. And it's so hard to, like, so hard.
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But as just, like, professional yappers and people, I feel like, who have been pretty honest about and, like, authentic. Like, it's just like. And why would I lie about you? Like, if I was even at that. I feel like a Tuesday for me in that era of my life was more interesting. You know what I mean? Like, the. It was genuinely happening to me. I didn't have to make anything up. I was inserting myself into everything. I was tornadoing my way through life was just. That's why I canceled, like, ended up being what it was because. Was just constantly happening because I was like, everything was for the plot, and I was insane. Why? If I was gonna lie about someone, I would lie about Jeff Bezos. Yeah. Not Todd Smith or David or something.
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It's just like, what?
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Yeah, I mean, and he just. Yeah, he came on and, like, I'll probably end up going on Jeff FM and then eventually, like, talking about it, I guess.
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B
But, like, did you text Jeff in that moment? Are you like.
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Yeah, I texted Jeff that I literally, like. Because you never said horrible things. Not about Jeff. I had nothing. I said to Jeff was horrible to Jeff.
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But how you felt.
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Yeah, I was just like. And Jeff already knew, and, like, he definitely, like, had my back. I'm not blaming Jeff at all. Like, you know what I mean?
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Like, he loves stir the pot.
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Yes. Oh, and just like, it's why I.
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Love that on to Jeff FM anymore. The minute I sat down, he cut it out, obviously. But he'll, like, ask stuff right away and I'll be like, like. Or I not answering this. Like, we're cutting all of this, right?
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He is like. Yes, he is. Like, he knows and he knows.
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Yeah.
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And get those clips and say the crazy. And that's what I love about Jeff.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, I admire that about him. He is just so, like, ruthless.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? And it's, like, iconic. I could never do it in this day and age because I've chosen peace but choosing peace is.
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That's what I'm gonna say is so much harder. It's so much harder. But you feel better because, ah, the lies are awful. But it's like. And it's like, ah, just having the lies out there is bad. But the piece you feel like, so much better to not have to. Like, it's so true.
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And, like, what am I doing? Like, stooping to that level and, like, trying to prove myself. Like, I know exactly what happened that night. You know what I mean? Like, I know. Yeah. And that's like, I have to just sit with that piece. And it's not even. It's not even drama. It's not even like I'm, like, receiving a bunch of comments about it or there's a bunch of clips. It's genuinely like a more like, personal thing where I'm just like, damn. Like, that is not what happened.
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B
And, like, it's the most frustrating.
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Yeah.
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That is fresh. And like you said, it could, like, nobody could even see it or care. And like, this particular clip. Yeah, no one did exit. Just Trish. We're always very interested in you, of course, but, like, most people, like, didn't care because it's hot. You know what I mean? And it's like, again, no shade towards top. But he hasn't been doing anything and he knows that. So it's like one of those things where it's just, like, so frustrating.
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Find it so interesting. Yeah. Like, just watching people, the way everyone to, like, from that community, like, eventually, like, is, like, leaving it and then, like, I don't. And that was the interesting thing too, because it's like, you've left that community and, like, is it your ego that you still. And it's funny too, because what he said was arguably, like, he said he, like, shoved me out of the way or something. Like, you're. That's not true.
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Well, then he said he didn't even touch you. He said he just put a hand up like you blocked you or something.
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That's arguably, like, worse in some ways than, like, what actually happened. Yeah, but I'm like, what is it that, like, you're leaving this and you're in a new era and you're making amends with Jeff, but you still are lying. Like, why, like, why wouldn't you want to just tell the truth about that?
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The only thing I can think of, like, I do find myself on never lying about a person because like I said, it's very easy to find out if you've lied about, like, anybody that I've been friends with whether Shane or David. Like, it's easy to, like, factually check something. So I never, like, lied about a person. The only thing you think about and compare it to is like, I used to be a pathological liar about, like, things about myself. Like, I'd say my dad is rich or whatever. And sometimes you like, start believing that own story. Like, I started believing it. You know what I mean? I was like, oh, wait, my dad wasn't rich. But for some reason in my childhood, I told everyone he was, but you start believing it. So maybe he was telling everyone in his circle, like, what happened and then you just kind of believe that as.
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Like, yeah, I guess. And he's like, you gotta double down. You have a point. You do have a point.
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I like, I. I have. I have to, like, have empathy, I guess, and think about it if almost from his shoes, because it's like, yeah, I don't know. I just. I think it's also like, I remember it so vividly because I was like, I cannot believe this is happening.
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A
Thank you, seatgeek, for sponsoring today's episode. This, like, grown man, like, you know that feeling when, like, a grown man is, like, like, aggressive or, like, yelling or, like, angry, like, and you just, like, walk away and it's like, in your chest and you're like, oh, damn, I am a girl. Yeah, like, you know what I mean? Like, it, like everything else kind of like, falls and it's like, it doesn't. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't matter if you're angry or whatever. You're like, oh, that, like, made me feel really yucky. Like, you know what I mean? And, like, I remember that feeling and exactly what I did, like, so vividly that I was just like.
- [22:22]
B
And you told the story so many times in that very consistent manner of that same thing, of that, like, shook feeling. And it's like. And you don't usually tell stories like that. Like, you're never really shaken by anything, you know, because I was like, damn.
- [22:32]
A
Like, I remember my takeaway being like, wow. I think that if I was a man, he would have, like, tried to fight me. Like, that was what his, like, scary. Like, at least that's what my perception of that was. So, you know what I mean? Like, that's how I felt.
- [22:45]
B
I think that's the Other thing, too is, like, when someone says something as fact and not, like, that's how. Well, he. I guess he did say that's how he perceived things. So then Jeff was like, well, there's three sides every. So I'm like, I don't know if there's three sides. Sometimes there's just the truth. You know, they always say, her aside, he said, but it's like, no, there is, like, a truth of what happened. Like, there is the truth. Truth.
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A
And like, it's. Yeah, I just, like, I remember so vividly what he was saying and what he was talking about, because this was. This was in the time where I was kind of transitioning from at one point being Dobrik's friend to, like, now writing for Jeff. And, like, I definitely felt that, you know what I mean, There was, like, many months and, like, things I would go to or things I was no longer allowed at or, like, you know what I mean? Things that everyone else was going to and I couldn't. Or, like, I'd walk into a room and receive 10 looks because I wasn't choosing what was, like, socially easy. You know what I mean? I was choosing what I felt to.
- [23:32]
B
Be the right thing, which obviously was. Because look at Todd. You know, he's back with Jeff now and everyone's like.
- [23:36]
A
And that's the thing too. Yeah, it's like, that's so interesting because it's like, all of these people died on this hill. And then like, flies one by one are. Because then what does that say? Like, if you're now sitting back with Jeff, like, what does that say about how you acted for the last few years?
- [23:53]
B
Well, Todd said in the interview, I ended up watching the whole thing. When we talked about just Trish, I had only seen clips, so then I did watch all things. I wanted to, like, get the full perspective. And Todd does admit, thank God, because I didn't. Yeah, no, I know I didn't want to, but I was like. And it is hard. Like, things trigger me. Todd doesn't trigger me because literally, like, never talked to him when I was, like, in that, like, world or whatever. But that's the thing too.
- [24:10]
A
He was always very, like, quiet and just kind of nice. So it's. It's, like, funny to me that in the end, like, arguably, he's the person that I've, like, had them, whatever.
- [24:19]
B
No, it's. It is very, very odd. But he does say that he knew he was on the. On Jeff's side because he. During that time, he said he, like, couldn't really, because he was dating Natalie and he was intertwined with David. So, like, he couldn't really, like, be friends with Jeff, even though he knew.
- [24:35]
A
But how crazy is that? These, like, such, like, I don't know, in my opinion, culty vibes.
- [24:42]
B
I mean, that's like, the definition of a cult. Yeah, it's just, like.
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A
You know what I mean?
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B
Just following someone blindly, knowing things are wrong, knowing things are up.
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A
And he, like, income has a play of, like, financial, like, has a play of control and, like, just. And like, a sense of security and, like, we have you and, like, you know what I mean? Like, I. I get all of that. And I mean, in some retrospect, I'm happy that he's, like, trying to go into the light and, like, you know, get out of that, but just.
- [25:10]
B
Damn.
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A
No, I'm not.
- [25:12]
B
No, I think because it triggered. Wait. Yeah. What he said about you. And then you're just like, like. But see, that's how I get with certain people, too. And I just, like, cannot watch because it just, like, triggers me so much when people try to push me or lie or like. Or, like, rewrite history or something. It's just, like, so frustrating. Like, that's not how it happened. But at the day, I'm like, let's choose peace. Because at the end of the day, going back and forth is just, like, exhausting. And, like, who do you want to go back and forth with? Todd? You know what I mean? Like, it's not even worth anything. They're literally like, there's nothing, you know?
- [25:39]
A
Exactly.
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B
It's just like shouting into oblivion. So it really is.
- [25:42]
A
That's a good analogy. Like, it does. It would be just shouting into oblivion. Oblivion. And, like, like, everyone knows how I feel. And it's like, yeah, I always feel.
- [25:50]
B
Like with your delivery, people think they can go like that. You want the combat. You know what I mean? Because you are so passionate. It's not a bad way, but you're just so passionate with the way you talk about things. So I think people think to, like, match the energy and they think it's like a beef and to go back and forth. But I also think there's something, like, it is a nice to just, like, address something when something's wrong too. You know what I mean? There is something to say about that. Like, when you, like, if you keep the center, don't. But I do think it's nice that you can just, like, be like. I bet does still, like, trigger me. That's frustrating because it's like, not the truth.
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A
This is much than, like, it's so funny because I. I originally made a TikTok, and it's in my drafts. I'll never post it. But, like, in the moment, I saw the video and I went and I made a TikTok and, like, I am very happy I did not post it.
- [26:26]
B
We're giving, like, Shane Dawson, like, she's a liar. Everybody's like, live with Tati and just was so mad that didn't happen. That and Rylan just, like, get off. Get offline. And then it just, like, ends and, like, we've all been there. That's me.
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A
I'm on the toilet yelling things I don't need to be saying. It's like. Like, Jesus.
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B
And you didn't post it?
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A
Yes, I left it in the drafts. And I'm really happy. Wow.
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B
And why, like, was it late at night where you're like, okay, let me just see if I feel this way in the morning or. How was it?
- [26:53]
A
Yeah, yeah. It was towards the evening, and I just already, like, I'd done enough that day. I felt like I was in, like, Internet world. Even, like, I bought this book and I was filming an unboxing of it, and, like, I need to post it still and, like, edit it. But I bought this insane book that I'm so gagged over. And in the beginning of my unboxing, I, like, go on a tangent about it, and it's like, you're unboxing a book. Like, it's. It was just, like, on your mind.
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B
I know. I've been there, too, where it just, like, consumes you. But. But that's why, like, yeah, I've been there, too. And sometimes that's why it's going to be good when you have, like, a. Like, a boyfriend or like, Moses, he hears all my ranting. Like, I'll, like, scream into, like, I'll just, like, scream. I'm like, I can't believe she was like. And then I'm like, okay, let me just be composed. But I know you just need that sometimes. You need a yellow rant like, are you kidding?
- [27:37]
A
Makoa and Moses are the best for that because Makoa got an earful that day with everything. I was fed up with reaction.
- [27:42]
B
Is he. Is he, like, understanding? Is he listening? Or is he just kind of like. Like, very understanding, doesn't know what's happening?
- [27:47]
A
Well, we woke up that day and it was the first thing I saw, too. Like, it was the. I opened my phone and it was the first thing I Saw and Mokoa just turned to me and he goes, what are you gonna do? He knew. He knew that, like, I. What I wanted to do. And he was just like, being funny about it, but, like, he's just so calm that it, like, reminds me. And like, even the other night I like, got back from those parties and I'm just like. I'm realizing that one of my, like, not so strong suits, one of the. My faults in my mind or headspace, I don't know what it is, is that I will know someone is going to act a certain way and then they will act that way that I was so well aware that they were going to act. And then I will be so disappointed and upset.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then I'll be like, I knew it. I knew this person was going to let me down in this way. I like, you know what I mean? Or just people I love or like, whatever it is. But like, you knew it. Why are you still so upset? And then I ruminate and like, I just gotten back from those parties and I was very much like, ruminating, like, this is not. These are not the LA scenes that I want to be in. But I still want to support my friends. And like, just not even Elliot. Just like, I just. I'm no longer a partier in that regard. Like, I just. That's not who I am. But I still want to support my friends. I have to navigate what that is. Is it a dinner before the event and then I go home? Like, you know what I mean? Just like, who am I going to be in this era? And Nicole was like, like, I was like, seething, you know, and he's like, calmed. Like, it's gonna be okay.
- [29:11]
B
He's very like, like, yeah, he calms you. He's like, you're Zen. Yeah. That's like the most important person to have when you're someone like, like us. Just like. Because not everyone is like that. I always think everyone spirals and just starts, like, having all the emotions. And there's some people who truly, like on Moses, like, he does not. I'm sure he gets angry inside, but he never shows it. He never gets frustrated. He's never like, pent up. Like, yes. I'm like, damn, I wish I could be like that. But sometimes you need that reminder. That's like, yes, just take a minute.
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A
Like, he really only is, like, upset or like about things if they're like level 10 and then still it's more. So like McCoy really only will ever feel like, sadness or disappointment. Like, I don't really ever see McCoy angry. Like, he's not.
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B
Like, that's Moses too. And he's always just like, finds a solution, finds whatever. Because there are. And yes, there's stuff that be said that said about him too. And he's just like, he's just calm about it. I mean, how are you not fired up? And he's just like, it's okay. Like, just take a minute. Like, it's fine. Like, I don't know. I'm like, wow, you're better than me.
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A
I was like, how I'm always. I always accredited to, like, the Hawaii stoner of it all. Like, he's so, like. Like, if it's still bothering you tomorrow, you know, we'll take on tomorrow. It's gonna be just fine. Like. Or like, I'll be ruminating and he'll be like, just hang it up. Just hang it up for the night.
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B
And I love that you're.
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A
You're so real for that.
- [30:17]
B
Do you feel that way then? Like, you know, going out to the LA party is like, you almost have, like, you're almost not that person anymore. You have, like, one foot out the door because you have a place in Maui now and you have a Maui boyfriend and you have this other life that's not la. So you feel like, a little bit like, oh, I'm not this anymore. I'm not being sucked into it.
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A
100. And then there is the flip side of that coin too, where I think it makes me grateful for my life in LA and things I do enjoy. And, like, even, like, as much as I didn't want to be socializing with these people at, like, certain people at, like, certain parties, I am, like, so grateful to go support Brooke and I am so grateful to support Trevi and, like, so proud of them and, like, go Trivia nights and, like, you know what I mean? Know who I want to be around and, like, just come here and do this, like, Hawaiian stuff. It's made me very grateful for the things in LA and touring, even just like, being home and being like, wow, this is my life that I've created.
- [31:04]
B
And, like, like, and just get to, like, enjoy. Because you, like, worked in there and you're like. And I can just enjoy time off. I feel that way too, because it's like, I love going out too in la, but I don't feel like I have to compete in the influencer world because I'm like, oh, I have, like, my family. Like, that's what I care about is being a mom. And then they get to do the fun LA stuff if I, like, want to, which I, like, rarely do.
- [31:20]
A
But, yeah, it's not this. Like, I need to, like, get this tonight.
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B
Like, if I don't show up at the party, no one's gonna know about me.
- [31:26]
A
Yes.
- [31:26]
B
I can't network. And I'm kind of like, it'll come or it won't. Like, I don't really care. There's.
- [31:30]
A
There's a piece in that, too. I was just, like. The fact that I was ever such a little, like, clout demon, like, blows my mind. I'd be like, I saw Harry Jowsey yesterday. And just, like, him and I had this, like, era where, like, he'd come over and, like, we'd scheme, you know, it's like, what are we. Are we gonna get a paparazzi shot today? Are we gonna make these tick tocks? I have these sounds.
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B
I didn't know that.
- [31:51]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [31:51]
B
Like, there's a Harry Jowsy era with you.
- [31:53]
A
Yeah, we, like, Faith dated, like, I don't even know what.
- [31:57]
B
What year is this, but.
- [31:59]
A
2019, maybe 2020.
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B
2019 is Jake Paul. We. Okay.
- [32:03]
A
It was like, right after that, I was like, we'll show him.
- [32:06]
B
Oh, really? Was it the same year, you think?
- [32:08]
A
Maybe 2020.
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B
Okay.
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A
Francesca. Yeah. There was.
- [32:13]
B
Wait. I miss this whole era.
- [32:15]
A
I found a lot of friendship with Harry in it. Like, I did, because I, like, you know what I mean? We'd laugh and, like, have fun and, like, be real friends.
- [32:21]
B
Like, yeah, through it.
- [32:23]
A
And, like, I look back at it fondly for that reason. I think, like, I enjoyed our friendship throughout it. But it's so funny that that was, like, I lived next door to the Hype House. You know what I mean? I was like, what are we gonna do today? And it's, like, just so crazy that I was. The Hype House was in Hollywood Hills with the glass, like, the. The several stories.
- [32:43]
B
It's just like, Alex Warren and little hoodies.
- [32:45]
A
Yes. And they were my neighbors. And you were hanging out with them. Yes. And just like, wow. Such an interesting time, for sure. To think that I was so, like. And I, like, my worth was based in that, too. I think it was coming off of all the Jake stuff, too. And just whatever, like, I had learned what worked, you know what I mean? And, like, how to make money and how to have eyes on you and, like, all of those things, which are valuable lessons, but, like, also was so consumed in it. I think it's good to have those tools and use them if you need them. And marketing and all of those things. But to just become that like, machine person and like your work earth not.
- [33:20]
B
Feel, I think good enough like a youth thing too. I mean, you are very young. You've done it for a lot longer. So, like, in a way, you are like 10 years aged up. But I do see that with like, younger influencers. They're really about even streamers. Like, streamers are the new influencers. Right. Like all the streamers. They just did like a streamer game. They did like a streamer. It's almost like the Disney Channel games we were. That's how Oscar described it to me. Yeah, it was like Disney Channel games.
- [33:40]
A
But it was like streamers.
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B
I know I was like, I'm kind of confused what was happening, but it was like, I don't know if you know any of these names was like qt, Cinderella and Vanilla, Mace and Ludwig and like all these, like streamers that are thing. So they all get together and do like these collabs and stuff like that. And it's, you know, they're all huge and they're all making so much money because they're all collabing. So I think it's like a young thing. You just have that ambition to do it.
- [33:57]
A
Yeah. And the newness, like, the newness. Even, like seeing Camilla, like, I was.
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B
Thinking that to the, like the pop house girls and climbing with everybody and trying to do everything and that just.
- [34:06]
A
All that money is like. It's like Kool Aid. You know what I mean? Like, I remember when I made my first million dollars a month on. It's like I became a different person for a second because it's like all you can think about. You're like, what the.
- [34:16]
B
Oh, I was obsessed. Yeah. Like hardcore. So here I am. Yeah, for sure. And I was older. I was like 32. So if I was like young and having all this, I would be the exact same way. So I think it's definitely a young thing. And I think if you're like, lucky enough to be like, established, where people just. You have a fan base and then you don't have to be as like, you don't have to try as hard. Which is like, not a bad thing because I was trying hard too. I was very similar to you. Like, if I wasn't in a group, it first was like Shane and I was like, oh, my God, this is great. And then when that was like kind of filtering out, then it became like David and I was like, great, great. And then Jeffrey. And then, you know, just I was Trying to, like, cling on to, like, any group. You know, I was going on all these, like, podcasts. I went on, like, impulsive, trying to find, like, my next, I think Keenan jc I went on their show thinking maybe this is my new group.
- [34:53]
A
Yeah.
- [34:53]
B
Just trying to be in all these groups. But, yeah, at the end of the day. And it does work, like you said, to some degree. Obviously, Shane and David didn't bring me anything because his fan base always hated me, but you know what I mean, it's just like, I think once you, like, establish yourself, you don't have to, like, do it as much, which.
- [35:08]
A
And, like, it was for me at least, like, almost looking back, like, a lot of it's insecurity driven too. Like, what if this goes away? Driven. And, like, fear. I think fear was my biggest motivator, you know, knowing, like, I had nothing to fall back on. You know what I mean? So it was like, I have to. And now I'm more so, like, what's meant for me will happen. And thank God for the girlies who have stuck around and care about who I really am. All facets of me versus just one.
- [35:32]
B
People really love you. You're specifically. I was looking at your. Because you posted, like, a main channel video. You were trying on, like, Hawaii clothes or something, and I was like, wow, people really. My main channel. Like I said, I love it. I still post there. But, like, people don't, like, it's not like, a big thing anymore. Yours is. But yours is, like, so big still. People, like, love and just, like, on clothes.
- [35:47]
A
You are so sweet. It's so cute. I'm just trying to. That's really sweet. It means a lot to me because I'm, like, very passionate about. I just love. That's always been my, like, thing like, that I really love, like, yours even, like, podcasting and whatnot. You're kind of like, you have editors to help you and beautiful producers and all of the, like, gorgeous things. But, like, that's my, like, baby, you know what I mean? Where I care and J Rod and I get to, like, sit and work on things. And it's like, my passion for sure.
- [36:10]
B
That's what, like, that's how I feel with mine. It's like, it's just mine, you know, like, no one else is in it. I obviously, I don't add it, but I just, like, throw stuff up there and like, whatever. I still post. I'm like, well, no one really cares, but here I still post music videos on there. They get like 70,000 views. But it's like, I love it like, it.
- [36:25]
A
Because it's just like. It feels like home. It's like the thing that brought us this whole life that we get to live. You know what I mean? Like, that and, like, the girls that we were when we first sat down, like, you know what I mean? It was our solace. And it was the first time, at least for me. Like, I don't want to speak for you, but, like, feeling heard and seen and, like, oh, my God, like, people love me for me, and, like, you know, just, like. Like, change changed my life.
- [36:48]
B
It was a rush. I was thinking about that. Mine was January 3, 2007, was my first video. So it was, like, 19 years in January. And I just remember, like, posting and I. All my videos, my first, like, 50 videos were all about Quentin Tarantino, and I just was how much I loved him, whatever. And I remember Eli ross sending me.
- [37:03]
A
60 videos about loving Quentin Tarantino's iconic poems.
- [37:06]
B
I was like, my poem to Quentin Tarantino. It's like, me in this, like, little studio with, like, literally a futon behind me, like, it's in Hollywood. And I did all these things. It was like, I posted them on my. My stuff space. And I remember Eli Roth, like, sending me a message and was like, do you want to come to this, like, event? Quentin's gonna be here. It says movie theater. And I remember, like, going. I was, like, 18 at the time. And, like, Eli sees me in the, like, the lobby of the movie theater room, like, takes my hand, introduces me to Quentin. He, like, brings me right up to Quentino at 18 years old. And I was like, all this because I posted videos on YouTube in MySpace. And he was, like, so nice. It was nothing, like, weird or creepy, but I was just like. And even Quentin, like, I was like, I can't believe, like, that's the reason I moved to la. And he was just, like. He was, like, right in front of me because of these YouTube videos. And I thought that was the most. Isn't it crazy? Like, you think about the R just.
- [37:46]
A
Like, what it brings you working? Yeah, like this. Yeah, like, that. I. Those first feelings of, like, that, holy, this is working.
- [37:53]
B
Like, I made it moment. Did you have a moment where you're like, this is it. I, like, made it. Is it buying something, Moving out of your parents? Like, is it.
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A
It was that I had to quit my job because I really, like, I loved my job. I worked just, like, retail and, like, But I loved it. And I love the people I worked with. And, like, I Also, like, I had dropped out of high school and that was like, in my head, that was my only like, out was working this minimum wage job and making this money money and saving it. And that was gonna be how I got out. So I didn't quit until I had like a hundred thousand subscribers or something because I was like, I. I can't. Like, what if I this up and then I lose this job? And then like, I all for this YouTube channel and no one cares and whatever. And then people kept like coming in and I just like had to quit. You know what I mean?
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B
Wait, really? They were like looking for you? Yes.
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A
And I like had to like.
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B
How old are you? Like 15? 16?
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A
Yeah, 16. Maybe 17.
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B
Were you scared or were you like loving it?
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A
I was loving.
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B
Yeah.
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I was like trying. I remember I tried to have a meet and greet there and we were were trying to do it and like, my manager was like, yes, you can do it. But then like, obviously like the high it was at pacsun and like the higher up was like, no, this can't do that.
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B
Wait, why? Why didn't they want you to have it there?
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A
Because I think that's like, I don't know, like, imagine like you're the CEO and you're like, no. At this random Vegas location.
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B
Like, hell yeah, bring those customers. Well, it was like a social media was like that tool. But I think nowadays people like bring those customers.
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A
But also I'm working there. I'm like, it just like, it was so funny to think it was pac. Yeah. And I just like remember my boss being like, go like, you got that this? And it was like, just, I would.
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B
Love that you had like a happy like, life in your like, retail job.
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A
Yeah, it was like my escape, you know what I mean? And it like, in my head, it was the only way I was gonna get out of like, hell, you know what I mean?
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B
So and so then you got the hundred thousand subscribers and are you making money?
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A
Yeah. That was back when AdSense was a free for all. Do you remember?
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B
Like, I know Adsense used to be like, amazing.
- [39:38]
A
Yeah. My first check was like $4900 and I had never seen anything like gags from videos. And I remember being like, holy. And obviously also I'm living in this house with people who like, do not believe in me or understand, and I'm an only child, you know what I mean?
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B
With your parents you're living with at this point.
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A
So it's like it wasn't even the money. It was like the validation of Like, I know this is working and it doesn't matter. And these people have told me every day I'm not gonna make it at this and to stop doing it. And like, you know what I mean? Like, all the horrible things that like, people say, you know what I mean? And just like, yeah, they wasn't the money. It was like knowing, like, who holy. Like this. This is working.
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I'm gonna get out. And then. Did you just get out? How old were you when you moved out?
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A
Yeah, I mean, I think everything was really hard until I was 18.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, I ended up, like, trying to get a lease, and then, like, they had to be on it. And it was. It was just this back and forth of control. And Jordan was there, granted. So I would call him, freaking out, like, my parents are doing this again. They're doing this again. Like, oh, my God. Like the Cree. I remember this time that I had gotten offered to go to Beautycon Dallas, and I wasn't 18 yet. And I was so. I want to cry. I was so excited. And I wasn't 18 yet. You know what I mean? So everything was just, like, really, like, hard. And I remember my mom was, like, freaking the out and she like took my debit card, took my ID so I couldn't fly. And like, remember what like conventions were? Like, they meant everything, you know what I mean? And like I was so determined to make this flight. So I start breaking everything in the house. I'm like, no, I'm going and you're gonna give me my id. I was throwing plates at the wall like on some. Because I'm like, you know, this is my opportunity. I'm going to MOG with Tila Dunn. You're not stopping me. Like, so I'm breaking everything and I get my, my and I get there and then she shuts off my debit card. She like goes, cuz I wasn't 18 yet. So now I'm stuck, I can't get home, I have no money. Like, and I was with Isabella, thank God. And she like her parents ended up helping us. But like I just remember like it was like, and so much going then.
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B
Yeah, how did your id, did you have an id?
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A
I broke everything until she gave it back and then I got there.
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B
So it worked.
- [45:04]
A
And then, but yeah, but then she went to the bank and like shut it all off. So I was like stuck there and it was just, just like, yeah, that's. I mean that's wild. So wild.
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B
Like you go to the bank to do it, it's like, okay, like you already tried to stop.
- [45:16]
A
Stuck in Dallas, Texas. You're evil. Like I'm 17 and just like it was crazy but like, but you made it. Yes. And then like, thank God. I mean that's why my 18th birthday was just the best day ever. That was kind of like where I finally was like, oh my God, I'm free. Because that's like a narcissist. You know what I mean? They want to control you and like making all this money and like success from 16 to 18, it was so hard. I was like coming online and being, being like fun about it. But like behind the scenes that girl was struggling because they didn't want to. They didn't want to, you know, not have credit for my win or not take advantage or money or you know.
- [45:49]
B
So what did they say when you were making these videos for those two years? Were they like supportive at some time? Like, oh, that's kind of cool what you're doing. Like it wasn't all like hell all the time or.
- [45:56]
A
Yeah, I think it was more like.
- [45:57]
B
When they got nice things.
- [45:59]
A
Yeah, exactly. It was exactly. Just something when they got nice things. Like I think that eventually they were like, hell yeah. Lottery ticket. We're gonna get money on out of this. But that was like kind of. Yeah. Oh, I forgot about electric bill gate. We'll tell that story one of these days.
- [46:12]
B
Oh, but they were like, you paid it. And they're like, we love you.
- [46:14]
A
No, but they're like gunpoint. Like I had no choice, you know what I mean? Like, to like. And it's like I knew if I didn't pay this bill for them, my life would be a living hell. So it was kind of like one of those where it wasn't ungrateful. Yeah. So it was diabolical. Truly.
- [46:29]
B
That is wild. Oh my God. Yeah. Your book could be literally just your child childhood.
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A
I know, I know.
- [46:33]
B
Surviving whatever your parents names are. You know, it's like, it's crazy.
- [46:38]
A
Truly. As I'm like writing more and more, I'm so excited to get to like this turning point though. You know what I mean? Like in the book, like once I.
- [46:46]
B
Get just at the childhood still.
- [46:47]
A
Yes, I'm. But I'm getting older. I'm like getting to high school soon, which is like, that's, you know, like soon it. We're close.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [46:55]
A
And I've gotten far and wow. I'm excited to get to like the fun. Fun too. You know what I mean? Just like Amari and I having so much fun in like the first few years of living in LA and stuff.
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B
But just like retelling the stories.
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A
Diabolical.
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B
Yeah, but the 4,000 at 16.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Posting videos is actually amazing.
- [47:11]
A
Do you ever Ms. When AdSense was just like no parameters?
- [47:15]
B
Oh my God. Yeah, I. Adsense came on later. I was on YouTube for like three or four years before Adsense became a thing. But yeah, when it came on, it was great because it was like 8,000 my first month. I remember, like, that's amazing. But then, yeah. At the height of it, remember, like, it was like vlogmas. Like December was like adsense, which is like not it anymore. I've tried the past like five Decembers to do like vlog and I'm like, there's no. There's no extra money in December. Like it's not really. Not for me. Have you found a different. Not at all.
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A
No.
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B
Like even anyone on all of our.
- [47:43]
A
You see me doing vlogmas. Mind your business. I gotta, I gotta try something out.
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B
Because I tried like my ASMR channel. I was posting three times a day on there. And then even like. But just anyways, yeah, I was posting so much. I was like, we're collect. This AdSense money and then three times a day.
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A
That's so iconic.
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B
Why? Nothing.
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A
Yeah, I was like.
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B
Like, really? Well, when Vlogmas was happening, I was doing Vlogmas on, like, three channels. But, yeah, I think at that point, AdSense, you can make, like, $250,000, you.
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A
Know, there was no parameters. Like, I can't believe I titled the video he me with a toothbrush and made like, 10 grand.
- [48:12]
B
Was it 10k or, like, something crazy? Yeah. You don't remember whatever you wanted. You really didn't start those stories. Remember, everyone was doing those story times after. And, like, the crazier. I'm sure I did, too. I'm sure I made up a couple story times. Like, I'm sure there was some that I, like, lied and I didn't.
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A
Looking back at those titles, it's just like, oh, you diabolical.
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B
I think everyone copied you. I definitely did. I definitely did, like, a Sex with nine Baseball Team members at the same time or something. Yeah.
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A
Because I monetized. I monetized.
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B
Yes. And I was like, damn. Because yours really were like, how many.
- [48:43]
A
Uber drivers tried to kill you, Tana? But it's funny because it truly was who I was. Like, yeah. I was just so goddamn dramatic. You know what I mean?
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B
You were so good at storytelling, though.
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A
Like, just like, I would have, like, a bad experience and I'd be like this. I can't wait.
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B
That was. Yeah. For the plot, like you said. Everything was for the plot. For sure. And you were so good. The way you told stories were so good. Like, Dan, that was an era of YouTube.
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A
Such a time. And even. Oh, my God, like, yeah. I'm thinking of so many people, even Gabbie Hannah. Like, she was killing it.
- [49:16]
B
She was killing story times. Yes. Although hers were so crazy because you remember, there's one that. You know how TikTok is, has the pop culture moments.
- [49:23]
A
What does it say where they do.
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B
Always, like, they have, like a little thing. She has a couple that comes up, which is icon. Honestly, like, whatever. Like, I. Like, she's been gone for a while, but it kind of makes her more iconic because I'm like, oh, man. Remember this era? There was one where she was telling a story time. She says, you guys, I'm about to tell you a story about the time my parents impregnated me with my brother.
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A
And then it was her intro.
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B
And it's like. And obviously it's like a dream she had or something, but I'm like, that was crazy. That's your intro. Intro. And then she has one where she's on Zach saying. And she goes, well, I think you're fat and I think you're ugly. That's just my opinion. But it's like her saying something like how people think it's okay to say mean things. Just like, it's out of context. It's so funny.
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A
But so I was dying laughing the other day because people like, make a meme. Because these two videos came out back to back and it was, Gabbie Hannah, Mario, you're gonna die. Gabbie Hanna titles the video. She's like, I wrote a song for Trisha Paytas. And then trisha paytas uploads 35 minutes later. Like, Gabbie Hannah, you are so creepy. Please stop. I forget the exact title. But, like, that was it, I think, like, what a time to be alive.
- [50:28]
B
I sent it to Jimmy so you can edit in the B roll because it was so funny. You sent me that in the DM and it says. It's like whenever someone took the screenshot, it was like three hours ago. Three hours ago. And it's like literally hers and then mine. I've apologized and.
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A
I know too, like, honestly, it's like, no, it's so good. I know too, that, like, with you not editing things so fast, like filmed and just like, like, so hold on, I want to find.
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B
Yeah, that was my era of. That's why.
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A
But you were kind of like. Like you were valid for that, right? Like, you were valid at the time.
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B
Like, maybe half the stuff I was valid for and probably the other half. No, I think with me, Gabby, it was definitely a 50 50. Like, there was definitely stuff where, you know, I was. I was a little nuts in the. Then I think there were some stuff.
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A
First to get it to load.
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B
Is it not working the thing.
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A
Wait, wait, wait.
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B
Are you connected to WI Fi?
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A
Yes, yes. I.
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B
In the group chat too. Sorry.
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A
I wrote a song for Trisha Paytas. Gabby Hannah, leave me alone. You're creepy as hell. The bad. Please look. It's so good.
- [51:28]
B
Oh, my God. We were going back and forth. I remember this. Let me see the thumbnail. This is 2020. This is like, I'm very pilled out here. This is 2020. Funny. Very pilled out. And I would. I had nobody with me. It's quarantine. I'm responding at all hours of the night. I'm putting out 30 videos a night. Like, not even joking. I was just. Thank God Tick Tock wasn't around because I would have been 50 part series.
- [51:51]
A
500 videos a day.
- [51:52]
B
Yeah, like, that was me on YouTube. Basically. I was just manic posting and, you.
- [51:56]
A
Know, but the no editing and having that ability to just.
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B
Just here goes.
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A
Send. It is so goddamn iconic. I want to frame that.
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B
I was. I remember being so livid. I was so angry. Like, more so than I should have been back then. Like, was so livid. Like, I don't know.
- [52:11]
A
We don't go creepy as hell enough. Also, like, this has nothing. I'm not laughing at Gabbie Hannah at all. Like, this is the. Just that could be any two people and getting it up like, within the hour and like, the time. It's so good.
- [52:25]
B
But can I tell you, I went on her podcast like a year after that because I really was trying to make amends with her. And still to this day, like, I publicly apologize at my show in Philly, I was like, I wish Gabby was here. Like, I. I know I was being like, extra. Like, I was being extra, you know, because I was just. I had so many emotions. And we just. We were just. We still will be. Just always just never lining up, you know, but it's really nothing. It has nothing to do with who or me. It's just like, you know, some people just, like, don't see things the same. Same at all, you know, and that's like. Was me and Gabby, but I was like, same though, like, overreacting so much. Like, she wanted. She's like, we're friends. I'm like, no, we're not. And like, that was our. That was our beef. And I was like, why do I care so much that she thinks we're friends? Why do I care so much? You know, maybe. Maybe I don't know.
- [53:05]
A
No, she was also very passionate, you know, Like, I don't know who she is now, but, like, her and I never saw I'd eye. And like, looking back though, she was right and I was wrong. Like, I think that I sucked at timing and I was. I didn't keep my word. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'd be like, we're gonna upload this at this time. And then I'm uploading it way, like, you know, like, I was not a good collaborator or partner. But she also would, like.
- [53:27]
B
Like.
- [53:27]
A
Like there was this time that she brought me to her house to cuss me the out. And Hunter came with me. And I remember he. Like, I think of it. I don't know. Like, I don't know if I can say actually what I was about to say. That's it just. That's the whole thing.
- [53:42]
B
She called you over to come to my house and shake Tammy?
- [53:44]
A
Yes, yes. And like just. Yeah, it was. I mean, I. But granted, like, I think she was probably just trying to get me to wake up, you know what I mean? Like, you can't be a piece of, piece of.
- [53:54]
B
Like, people have a different approach to things. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
- [53:57]
A
And I, I think I've always sucked at that. Like that is not how I grow. Like when people scream at me. I think that it just reminds me so much of my childhood that I kind of shut off. Like, especially women screaming. Like my mom. That's like she was just the most like shrill screamer at all times to the point that I viscerally hate it. Like I'm like, oh my God. Like nothing needs to be in like tone at all times. It's like, oh, so what would you do?
- [54:23]
B
You are. You're not competitive back. She's screaming at you. You're like, okay, I don't know, are you, Are you a screamer back?
- [54:29]
A
Or were you probably with her in that moment? No, I was probably like, I'm scared. Like, it definitely depends. I mean now I'm not. I'm definitely like. I think. I do think there's power in being. Not always, but like for the most part, like the quietest person wins the argument. Like the second someone yells. Like there's a part of me. It depends on what it is about, I guess the situational.
- [54:50]
B
But I always think, always like think of a situation where the loud person wins.
- [54:54]
A
Yeah, like, it's like sometimes like I just see people so often approach things by being a screamer and it's like.
- [55:01]
B
I was the screamer. I'm one the shouting angry. I'm angry at everybody on YouTube. Like never once did anyone ever listen to me because I screamed loud. You know, the only time people start listening to me is when I like take it back a notch, you know, like, oh, Trisha was saying something here. You know what I mean? And it's like I do think they're so. That's like the best, like takeaway from that is like, I don't think you have to yell ever to get your point across. And like. Yeah. Or like insulting people. Like looks. I think always that too. You like lose right away. So I always. That's what I learned. I did both very often. So I think people didn't take me seriously because I was just like so loud and just so angry and I would come for like their looks or whatever. You know what I mean? And it's like, and it's like, you're.
- [55:33]
A
Right, you're so right about that, like being calmer. And a lot of times when dealing with like narcissists, not that I'm calling anyone that we've just talked about, just in general, I'm saying like people, people, that's what they want, is to get that rise out of you. And then you've automatically lost by like giving them that as well. Like, I think it's so important to just like stay calm, cool and collected even now.
- [55:54]
B
I mean, I rarely, rarely get triggered that capacity. But like earlier this year someone like kind of triggered me a little bit. And I wanted to talk about it, but I had to like, I had like cuss, like cuss and scream. Like before I did talk about it because I was like, let me just tell it about to Moses. I was so pissed. I was like, this is such a lie. This is so annoying. Why would they pin me like this with whatever. And then when you can like calmly talk about it, it makes so much.
- [56:13]
A
Better 100 like for yourself too. We always talk about like the stopping and thinking, even like that Todd thing, like, you know what I mean? Just not impulsively doing things out of emotion and being reactionary. It's like it's a ten year battle for me, you know, and you do.
- [56:27]
B
So good because so many people like will talk about you and you'll be like, oh, that wasn't right or that's not what I meant. And you, you do well at like letting things go for the most part, you know, whatever is like not important. But you know, like the Todd thing obviously bothered you and I do think.
- [56:37]
A
There'S like, yeah, I'm starting to learn and like, because I think even like after all of that like Alyssa Violet and that like the Cody Cole, like all of that drama on canceled, I almost became this person who was like scared to start clarifying things because I realized that your words hold power. And like sometimes you can't give anything power. And now I'm kind of getting back into it like where it's like, no, sometimes you can. Even with like that canceled Adsense thing, I was like, no, I'm gonna make a tick tock about it. Like I wanna, you know what I mean? Like it's sometimes, even yesterday, like I just saw I was getting so dragged into to Brooke and BB's everything and I was like, this is not my, this has nothing to do with me. You know what I mean? Like it's like, sometimes standing up for yourself and just being like, for sure.
- [57:18]
B
Or I think when you react, you did a TikTok about the canceled AdSense thing. Like, also just like, you know, you put something out there and you like the way it's perceived. You're like, oh, like, you could see how something was perceived and then you're like, oh, well, let me acknowledge that. Like, I see this. You know what I mean? I see what you guys are saying, because that's me too. So many times I say stuff and then like, when people give me feedback, I'm like, oh, that makes sense. So I always try to be like 100. I see what you're saying, and I think that's like the learning and growing at it all is like, seeing what people say and just being like, oh.
- [57:42]
A
Yeah, and understanding how you could have, like, played a part. Like, I realized that me just, like, throwing those words out there so flippantly is my word of the month. But so flippantly, like, was like, that's on me. Of course, if you're gonna say something like that, like, that people are going to react that way, and you should give more context.
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B
It is the, The. The curse of the podcast is when you just. Just talk so much all the time. You're about to say something that comes across not the way you intended, and.
- [58:07]
A
You get so comfortable. Like, even sometimes here, I will genuinely, like, like, it's so wild because right now I'm looking at 1, 2, 3 cameras. 1, 2, 3, 4 giant lights. But for some reason, like, I'll just, like, be looking at you and, like, be like, it's just me and Trisha.
- [58:21]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [58:22]
A
And same with Brooke. Like, I'll just. And then I'll just. I'm the type of person too off camera very much where I just speak my consciousness.
- [58:28]
B
That part's hard because you are very that. And then like, it's like, okay, are we talking about this? Are we not talking about it? You know? Yes. Yeah.
- [58:33]
A
And it's like, oh, my Mako was so good with that too. He, like, really thinks before he speaks. Like, I'll watch him. And I'm like, how the do you.
- [58:41]
B
Have to tell it?
- [58:42]
A
Like, he'll, like. And he'll really take, like, that 15 second pause. And sometimes I'm like, spit it out.
- [58:46]
B
But it's like, you need it.
- [58:48]
A
No, he's eating. He's not gonna say something that he doesn't mean, you know? And it's like, oh, my God. I just learning to become. Become that person.
- [58:54]
B
I realize I'll never be that person, but I need to for sure. We have an editing, you know, we have an editor. So like, if there is something that's true. I just hate in the moment when we ever film something like edit.
- [59:04]
A
Yes, it's a fine line too because I've. There have been times in my life where you come on camera and you're like being so calculated and you're thinking about what everyone's going to say or. Yeah, when I was reading Reddit, good God. I was like everything I said, I was like trying to. To be this perfect person, you know what I mean? And it's like that doesn't make for good content either. Like authenticity. That's always how I've been. Like I'm just not. I don't have to turn on and become someone else. Like who you see online is who I am and like, you know, I don't know.
- [59:32]
B
No, you're very much that. You're very much how you are. And you are in your p. Era offline as you are online too, trying.
- [59:37]
A
You're not screaming, hell begging, like just, you know, really trying. But thanks to you too, so much. You really like, like usher me into that and hold me down, you know?
- [59:48]
B
I love, I do love this era for you. I love this era for us. Cuz it is crazy. We're just talking about how like collabing is like so. Can be like so stressful or so like. But it's like so easy, so chill, so amazing. It's just like I love it so much. I'm glad you're still doing it because I know you're like so busy and you're going to Maui and something. I'm just like, oh, I love that we're still doing this.
- [60:03]
A
No, forever doing this. And the other day I was really thinking about. One of the things that I'm very grateful for in our friendship is just. I don't know how to explain the way you hype me me up. Like it'll be the littlest thing. Like, you know what I mean? It'll be like a top I wore, like a bracelet I'm wearing or like even just like something I was thinking about or like something I don't know how to explain it. Like you just like really pay attention and you're like just such a like hype woman. You make me feel like so comfortable with who I am and like loved for who I exactly am, which I just really appreciate.
- [60:34]
B
Oh, I definitely like see you. It's so funny. Like I Just like, it is like having, like, a little sister or a little me or something like that. You know what I mean?
- [60:41]
A
It's like a little you.
- [60:41]
B
And you are such a. Like a light, like, and little me. But I, like, obviously way more successful and way more like. Okay, just comparing herself to Tana.
- [60:50]
A
No, no, we're twins. I'm sorry.
- [60:52]
B
But even, like, Malibu, like, when she comes to you, like, there is, like, a light where, like, kids are like, you know, they're either a little standoffish or they're like, really? And Malibu just, like, comes to you, you know, it's like, it's like a little light, and you are this, like, light. You're like a genuinely nice person. I say that about you. Whereas me, I feel like I've always, always. I don't know, I had to, like, unlearn some mean girl tendencies. But you're just always been, like, genuine and sweet and mean. Like. Yeah, I know.
- [61:13]
A
And you're like, you're. You're the ultimate hype woman and friend. And it's just like, crazy. It is like, literally, it'll be something so stupid. Like, I'll not wear a lash. And you'll be like, I love your natural lashes.
- [61:22]
B
And everyone did on the comments of the last one, they're like, they did. All the comments were like, tana, I love this look. You look so fresh. Like, it was a day where you said you were, like, not wearing any makeup or you were, like, really quick on doing makeup. I was like, no, she looks so good.
- [61:33]
A
You're very sweet.
- [61:33]
B
I read the. You should read the comments on here. They're really sweet. Okay.
- [61:36]
A
And then I always see all the things I miss. Say, like, me. I don't know if I talked about this, but me being like, Amari has never been Malibu Barbie for Halloween.
- [61:44]
B
And everyone was like, people are like, oh, yeah, he definitely has.
- [61:47]
A
Definitely has.
- [61:49]
B
Well, that's a memory, I think. And my memory is just the worst. I like that all the time.
- [61:54]
A
But I misspeak so definitively. Like, I'm like, no, he never has. And I know it.
- [61:59]
B
It's like, but that's because you're just. Yeah, you're me. I'm the same way. Last week, I think Oscar's like, you definitely dress like Wednesday. Adam's like, never. I've never dressed like her. And then literally, there's like, an asmr of me just, like, impersonating her fully with a braid. And I was like, what?
- [62:12]
A
Cuz we do so much. Like, you and I, we move so fast.
- [62:15]
B
And we're always like, how can you remember everything?
- [62:17]
A
Can't.
- [62:17]
B
You know?
- [62:18]
A
Just impossible at all.
- [62:19]
B
You never responded to my Halloween costume I sent you of us. I was like, oh, because that's so funny.
- [62:26]
A
Oh, my God. Because I literally, like, I responded in my head. I promise you that much. I was like, wait?
- [62:32]
B
And then you're like, nothing. I don't respond to half text either. But I was like, I thought that one was kind of good, actually.
- [62:37]
A
I promise you that I. I am so sorry I didn't respond because I. Look at what Trisha said, Omar, you're going to die. She goes, because, like, we were talking about potentially being the substance, but I think that we should be the substance in the regard that we are both sfx. Crazy, like, bad. And then we. We both have like a prosthetic, like a Barbie or like a prosthetic type of thing coming out of her back. Like, do you get what I'm saying?
- [63:02]
B
No.
- [63:03]
A
Like, we both are the gremlins and we both have the like.
- [63:07]
B
No, but we're young people. There should be a gremlin and a young hot. Like, that's the whole point.
- [63:13]
A
She said we should be this.
- [63:17]
B
I think that be so cute. I love it.
- [63:21]
A
And I'm sitting next to her.
- [63:23]
B
Yeah. No, not for you, Abby.
- [63:25]
A
So up. Like, I get what you're saying. It's really good. But we're a duo.
- [63:29]
B
We have to do a duo costume. We can't just be. It's like both of us being Barbie. It's like, that's not a duo costume. Like, we're a duo costume.
- [63:34]
A
I get. You're like, you're right. Like, you are right. But something about that she wants to match.
- [63:40]
B
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A
Like.
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Payment of 45 for 3 month plan. $15 per month equivalent required. New customer offer first 3 months only. Then full price plan options available. Taxes and fees extra. See mintmobile.com well, I just think that there's something derogatory about Trisha being like the gremlin and me being a he.
- [64:48]
B
But that is us. You are the younger version. We just said it. You're like a younger version.
- [64:52]
A
But like, I'm also like, I need like Alex Earl coming out of my back. You know, Like, I don't necessarily think that, like, I am like, like the.
- [64:59]
B
Russian doll, like 21.
- [65:00]
A
And like, you know, it's just like. And there's something that feels so derogatory about.
- [65:06]
B
Especially if I'm the one that's like, oh, we should. Because you said it. And I haven't seen this up since. So I'm like, googling. I'm like, trying to find the substance. Costumes. I'm like, oh, this one. This one is it. This is everything thing. You come out in a Robux outfit. Because I saw Margaret quality as a robot and she's. That's one hair coming out of her head. The saggy moves. I thought one where she had like really saggy boobs. I like, was that everything? Like, I love it. I love.
- [65:28]
A
I get what you're saying. I think I agree with you. Like, it's iconic. Yes. But there's something about me that feels some type of way. We're doing it because you're so hot. Like, that's crazy. And I know you're always down to be the like. Yeah, no, and so am I. You know what I mean? Like, I. I think that that is kind of.
- [65:43]
B
I think it's funner. Especially like the old again, being older and also just being like, not in my hot era by choice.
- [65:48]
A
As I'm trying to put my hip back into place.
- [65:50]
B
Okay. What happened?
- [65:51]
A
No, I put it back in. It's okay. I'm just 80.
- [65:52]
B
Are you sure? Yes.
- [65:53]
A
That's what I'm saying.
- [65:54]
B
I need to be Pilates. Someone said Pilates fixes it my hips.
- [65:58]
A
Yeah, we have to.
- [66:00]
B
Oh, today. Today I went to go to her like a little Pilates gym and the girl was like, oh, I'm a dancer and I hurt my hip. That's what she was saying. I hurt my hip. So Pilates has, like, healed her hip. And I was like, oh, my God. I thought of you instantly.
- [66:09]
A
Oh, my God.
- [66:10]
B
The time to. I want to join it. It's like $20 a month. But I'm like, why? Like, I want to go. I need to go. I need to put it first.
- [66:14]
A
But you want to do this. And I think you have to.
- [66:17]
B
But also how do. How do you find time?
- [66:18]
A
Are you doing it with strangers? That's what I want to know. No.
- [66:21]
B
Well, this one's not. But I can't only because, like, I would feel so self conscious. I.
- [66:26]
A
Me too.
- [66:26]
B
This is in a gym and I already felt self conscious going into the gym. I saw like. Oh, I saw like Lauren Gray there and Which I love. She was so sweet. She's like, if you ever need a gym partner. But she looks so hot.
- [66:34]
A
Yeah. And it's like, yeah, I. I feel the same way.
- [66:37]
B
Okay. She looks so hot. Everyone looks so hot there. I was already intimidated. So I'm like, I definitely need to do a private.
- [66:41]
A
Because even like I always want to be like, Brooke, should I come to Aloe? But it's like, I'm not asking that. I don't want to do that. I can't start.
- [66:46]
B
I would love to see you at Aloe.
- [66:47]
A
No. Yeah, maybe if I got good, I would go as a good. Like. But I'm not trying there.
- [66:53]
B
Like you Pilates there?
- [66:54]
A
Yeah. Like, and even Jake Shane is so like real and funny for posting him like shaking on the reformer before he got there. He. I don't know. I think so. Yeah. Before he like got. And now he's good and he kills it. I'm just like, I would have to be alone with an entire instructor until I was confident that I wouldn't like get hurt in front of like everybody. Haley Bieber. Yeah. Like, I'm not going to the Aloe Gym.
- [67:17]
B
The Alo gym's an elevated, like really scary. Yeah, that's. That's definitely like, I'd have to practice. I need to lose like some weight and then I'll go there. But yeah, it's just like.
- [67:25]
A
And it is like, I get that it's Brooke will even just like the people that like she's seeing and telling me and whatever. But she's good at that. So she feels comfortable in the environment.
- [67:32]
B
Yeah.
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A
Like, and which I think is so iconic. I really do. But like, I'm. I need to be solo with an instructor.
- [67:37]
B
Me too.
- [67:38]
A
Or like doing it with a friend who's also beginning. Like us doing it together would be fun. Cuz it's like we'd be able to laugh at ourselves.
- [67:44]
B
I know. I really want to do it when you can, but you can't do. I'm trying to do mornings, but I guess I could do afternoons. When? When would you do it? Ideally like you're.
- [67:50]
A
We should do one and then try to come here and like do not love line and talk about it.
- [67:54]
B
Okay. Yeah, there is like one down the street. Maybe I should just join it. Maybe I should just be like, let's join it. Because then you could just come for like the morning and like why don't.
- [68:00]
A
We see if they let us do one class. Like let's. Cuz we. What if we hate it?
- [68:04]
B
I right, they should let you do that. Do they let you do that? That is actually a good point.
- [68:09]
A
Cuz you have to say for like a year.
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B
And I'm like wait.
- [68:11]
A
And it's so funny. Like gym memberships in la, even Equinox. Like it's like you have to move away or be injured to like get out of it. It's like, come on.
- [68:19]
B
Oh really?
- [68:20]
A
And prove it.
- [68:20]
B
Wait, what do you mean you can't?
- [68:22]
A
I've had like nine broken legs and I've moved to Florida twice. That's so scary.
- [68:27]
B
We can't just keep cancel. You have to move away.
- [68:33]
A
Yeah, a lot of gyms are like that. I get it. Like they want to lock you in for the membership.
- [68:37]
B
Not get it. You should be able to cancel like after a year.
- [68:39]
A
It's like, what if this just isn't my vibe? There's no way isn't my vibe category.
- [68:43]
B
Oh, that does scare me. I guess that part kind of scares me too.
- [68:46]
A
Membership and I just be, oh my. That's happened to me so many times with Equinox where I've like, I'm paying 300amonth and then I'm like, oh my God, I don't even go anymore. I don't even.
- [68:55]
B
And you have to keep going. Yeah, you're injured.
- [68:58]
A
I used to love it, but it is like very wild. It's 300amonth. It's like a little nicer. But you also like I see everyone I know and like the only perk is like Kiehl Skincare in the bathroom and like a cold peppermint towel. But like 300, I'll go to Kiehl's and just ball out. Like I also have a gym in my house.
- [69:16]
B
I don't know why I'm like, yeah, we do too. But I. I just don't feel motivated to go in my house. I have to like go somewhere. I feel to like have a teacher.
- [69:22]
A
I saw. Well, Ashley actually has been reading this book and I forget what the book is. It's called like, hack your habits or something. It's a pop. I don't know if that's what it's called. Mia spreading misinformation.
- [69:31]
B
It sounds like a good name, but.
- [69:33]
A
She was telling me about it, right. And one of the theories that this guy who wrote this book had, it's a popular self help book, is called the two minute theory. And it's like if you want to instill a habit in your life, you do it for two minutes a day. Like if it's. If you want to start working out, you put on your running shoes and you, you like, go to your treadmill and you walk for two minutes. And even if you want to do it longer, you have to stop. Like, you only do the two minutes and you do this for 21 days because that's how long it takes to form a habit. And then by the 21st day A, this will be a part of your routine and you'll be mentally in the habit of putting your shoes on and going to the treadmill. But also because you've been stopping yourself, you'll want to do it for longer.
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B
Oh, so then after the 21 days, you can start doing for as long as you want.
- [70:16]
A
Yes. But like, I was. I don't. I feel like that would work on my like, ADHD walnut brain.
- [70:21]
B
It would definitely work, but I still think it would work if you do go 15 minutes or 20 minutes if you want. That's true.
- [70:25]
A
But then are you getting like overwhelmed and you don't want to do it the next day? Like, it's just about enforcing.
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B
I see. That makes sense. What else? Showing up for two minutes.
- [70:33]
A
I'm about to start doing that with my book too, where I just like work for a couple minutes and you.
- [70:38]
B
Just stop after two minutes. That's wild.
- [70:39]
A
I know. It's so you're like thinking for the book.
- [70:43]
B
I mean, it sounds like it could work.
- [70:44]
A
I don't because I get in my head about the book too, where I'm like, oh my God, I have to enter this dark headspace or I have to like, you know what I mean?
- [70:51]
B
Like, yeah. Has helping you with your thoughts and stories and you just do it yourself.
- [70:56]
A
I have someone who is going to help me. But like, I am really, like. Because I think it's like, I really, like, I'm like 10 chapters deep and I'm like, I like what I have.
- [71:05]
B
By yourself?
- [71:05]
A
Yes.
- [71:06]
B
That is so impressive.
- [71:08]
A
I am like, just kind of. And I'm like, I'm confident in it. You know what I mean? So. So I'm like, oh, and maybe it's an ego thing. Maybe it's like I. I even like, I'll sit there and like, wait to find a good analogy in writing versus, like, I don't want someone to make my analogies for me. I don't want someone like, you know, like, I just.
- [71:22]
B
You are that person. It was songwriting too. When we talk about writing songs, like, you want to be in there. That call we had last week, you're like, I need to be in the writing room. Like, you actually, like, do love to that. Now that I'm thinking about that.
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A
I love to write. I'm passionate so bad. So this. And this is like the climax of that. You know what I mean? It's like the. I don't know. I just. Cuz even like, I'll be writing and I'll be like, what the. Like, I'll be say, like typing things. So in the way I would say it that, like, I don't think someone else could, like, get in my upbringing.
- [71:48]
B
Yeah. Yeah. That's the hard part is when I see your voice. Oh, my God. That's actually so impressive.
- [71:51]
A
Yeah.
- [71:52]
B
You're so good. We did like a. The first time ever, I think we did like, a business call together. And I was like, like, all of us on. And I was like, so impressed. You were like, asking questions. Like, they say the number one thing in like an interview or like, yeah, like, business meeting is like, ask questions. And I'm always the person like, do you have any questions? I like, nope. And you had so many good ones. I was like, damn.
- [72:09]
A
Just because. Especially, like, with business ventures now, I feel like I've. That comes with, like, having gone through the ringer in so many aspects, whether it's like, contractually or like, signing up for something, thinking it's one thing and then it's something else. And you're like, like, now I like, I want to know everything.
- [72:23]
B
You're so smart. You're so smart. You were so intelligent. Yeah, I was. I was the F up on that call. Everyone was so nice. Everyone was on Zoom. I'm like, literally in the loudest, like, garage like, trying to, like, listen. I'm like, I gotta go. You guys all look so good and professional. I was like, oh, man.
- [72:35]
A
I think you need to give yourself so much grace for taking on as much as you are after just having this baby. Like, thanks.
- [72:42]
B
Yeah. I know.
- [72:43]
A
The fact that you're even on the call, I would be like, you guys.
- [72:46]
B
I really wanted I really wanted to be on it. And then so many things happened that day, and I was, like, literally in an alleyway with, like, trucks coming by, and I was, like, muting.
- [72:53]
A
Like, she's an icon. She's a business woman.
- [72:55]
B
No, because, like, the busiest, like, not just you in Holly. Like, other busy people are on that phone call. I was like, why am I busy being this. That's like, okay, guys, gotta go. Bye. See you.
- [73:03]
A
Like, no, you showed up, and, like, that's what matters. And we wanted.
- [73:07]
B
You were so good. You were, like, on it. You look so beautiful. You're, like, sitting in, like, your kitchen and you're asking questions.
- [73:11]
A
That's because of Holly. Because the last time I was on it, I was in Hawaii and my hair was wet and, like, I had no makeup. I just popped a big. On my forehead. Like, I looked a mess. And I was like, hey, guys. And, like, on it. And then Holly sitting in this house.
- [73:25]
B
Yeah. She looks like. Like an actual princess every time, serial.
- [73:28]
A
And I was at this time, I was like, okay, let me, like, you.
- [73:30]
B
Look like her this time.
- [73:31]
A
Show them why they want me to.
- [73:33]
B
Like. Like, she's just. I didn't even have my camera on. I'm like, this camera's not coming on. It was just like, I do that so often. I never do. It just was. That particular day was rough.
- [73:42]
A
But no, because if sometimes I'm like, y' all don't want to see my face on this zoom. You know what I mean?
- [73:46]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [73:46]
A
And people add their little backgrounds. I don't even know how to do that.
- [73:49]
B
I do love that when people do, like, a palm tree behind them.
- [73:51]
A
I need to learn how to do that. I always, always have happening in the background of my zoom calls.
- [73:55]
B
Yes, me, too. I know. I. I take them in different places, too, and it's always looking terrible behind me. I have to learn how to fuzz it or blur it or whatever they do. I don't know.
- [74:03]
A
I don't. I don't like, zoom.
- [74:05]
B
I.
- [74:05]
A
Like, I'd have to do it all the time, but, like, you know what I mean?
- [74:08]
B
Yeah. Everyone does a zoom now.
- [74:10]
A
If I could never zoom again, like, I would never. I just like, Yeah, I wish.
- [74:14]
B
Yeah, just a phone call. Let's all be on a phone call together. But this is a way you can see zoom. See who's talking? Like, this kind of like, I like seeing your guys's faces. I was like, damn, I wish I was on this, but there was just no way in hell I could have been that Day.
- [74:23]
A
That was.
- [74:24]
B
That was insane. What was happening. I can't even tell you guys. What was happening around me was actually insane. And it was just like. I can't even. Cuz people were like yelling and screaming and I was just like.
- [74:33]
A
And you're like stressed and especially when it's on the phone. It's one thing when it's like a laptop in your kitchen, but when you're like on a zoom call, on the.
- [74:39]
B
Zoom call in public, it was just like a whole mess. But you made it happen. Yes.
- [74:43]
A
And we're so excited.
- [74:44]
B
Yes. I'm excited for it. I am excited. Yes. Are we ready for a phone call? The time wise it is. We're due for that call. It's time for a phone call. Yes. I love it though. I love talking with you. It's like, it's fun, it's healing.
- [74:57]
A
It's quite literally like we just trauma dump on each other and have the best time.
- [75:00]
B
It really is. But I do feel better every time I see you. Like, how you feeling? You know what? Much better, actually. Yeah.
- [75:05]
A
And like we match each other's yap. It's in the best way. Like, like you need that person who like will go toe to toe with you with the app. Like never seen. Shut up. You know?
- [75:14]
B
I love it. I love it. I love a. Yep.
- [75:16]
A
Like even Devin before this was like, this call should be a yap call. Take one call at the end. And we were like, yes.
- [75:21]
B
When is it not a y. Honestly, Comments are coming around too. We're like, I like just talking. So some people are saying that too. I mean that loveline. We are supposed to be answering calls.
- [75:30]
A
And we love doing both. Truly. And thank you guys for just like supporting whatever the we want to talk about. Like, how cool is that? Yeah, we're so blessed that like we get to just sit down and literally like whatever we want to talk about.
- [75:41]
B
We do. Yeah. No, I love it so much.
- [75:42]
A
And people care.
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B
I know.
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A
Emo.
- [75:45]
B
I love this channel so much. It's so fun.
- [75:47]
A
So much.
- [75:48]
B
It's my favorite love line. We'll take a bunch of calls the next three episodes.
- [75:54]
A
Just good on you for repeating that.
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B
I was like, yeah.
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A
Like, period.
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B
Yes, yes, yes.
- [76:02]
A
Okay. Our. Our call. I'm excited.
- [76:04]
B
Our only call.
- [76:05]
A
But then next episode is all calls. So we love you for the people who love the calls.
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C
Hey, Trish. Hey, Tana. I just took a pregnancy test this morning and it was positive and I was looking in my closet. I've been really big into manifestation and the lions Portal just passed. If you know, you know. And I just had to call to share with you that I had bought a lemon onesie years ago. And Trisha, you posted Malibu as a baby in the onesie. And I was struggling at the time because I wasn't getting pregnant. And I'm looking at that onesie right now in my closet. And I just know everything, everything works out the way that it's supposed to. And although I don't have real life girlfriends, Trish and Tana really have been two influences in my life that I just look to for a laugh and a giggle. And you make my life better. And I just wanted to share my positive news with you because I don't have really anybody to share it with. I'm waiting for boyfriend to get off work and surprise him. Thank you, girls for being you. I love you so much. Bye.
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A
Oh, my God.
- [77:15]
B
We love you too, Devin. Oh, my gosh. That was so real, so nice. Congratulations. All of it.
- [77:24]
A
So real and so nice. We're so happy for you.
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B
The hope core of all that. I love that so much.
- [77:30]
A
It was so.
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B
Oh, my God. And the alliance portal 8.
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A
8.
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B
We're in the 8th month of the year. It's very. It's an abundance, and that's beautiful. The lemon onesie, the manifestation is so powerful. Visualizing something is the biggest thing in manifestation. And I'm so. I'm so happy for you.
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A
I am so happy for you too. And that's so cool that you're building your own little best friend right now too. And like, I just want you to know too, like, the phases of life where you don't have maybe the girlfriends and stuff, they will come. You know what I mean? Like, like, just don't ever give up on that. Like, you will find people who align with you and we're just. I'm so happy for you.
- [78:06]
B
That is the best. And this is the best time. First pregnancy and that early pregnancy and getting excited and it is like, the best. Like, I wish I could be pregnant for the first time again. Like, that's like the best feeling. It's so fun, especially when you wanted it for so long and you said you're waiting for your boyfriend to come home and surprise him. Like, that's just like.
- [78:22]
A
And the fact that she called us.
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B
I know we're like the first to know because she didn't tell her boyfriend. Like, that's.
- [78:28]
A
And the little lemon onesie, the manifestation, that's so real. And like, it's so crazy too. All of the things that this path, like, maybe you end up meeting your best friend for life because, like, she's a mom at the school that your kid ends up going to.
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B
You know what I mean? Like this.
- [78:40]
A
Or like at a mommy group or at daycare.
- [78:43]
B
Like. Yeah.
- [78:43]
A
Who knows? Like, the doors that this is gonna open up for you and, like, it's just.
- [78:48]
B
Oh, you'll meet. You'll definitely meet people. Like. Yeah. Even if you're someone who never had girlfriends, like, it's me. I never, you know, had friends. But you, like, are forced. Forced in a good way to become friends with people that are. Have similar situations as you and.
- [78:58]
A
Yeah. And that's so exciting. And I'm so excited for this new. And I just feel like with your. You're so spiritually in tune and you're well aware that you manifested this and that this is like a whole new era for you. So I'm so happy for you and you made me cry. I love it.
- [79:11]
B
Baby Lemon. It should be. Because it was Lion's Portal 8. 8. It should be Baby Lemon 8. Like the app.
- [79:17]
A
Like the app.
- [79:19]
B
Like, however do you always get those. Yeah. Bios too. It's like Lemonade.
- [79:24]
A
And imagine when Lemon is, like, doing something iconic. We could be like Lemonade. Yes.
- [79:30]
B
Lemonade is such a good name.
- [79:32]
A
Yes, Lemonade. Lion.
- [79:33]
B
I love Lemonade. Lionsgate is crazy, but I love that name so much. So good. But also like Lions Eat Studios and. Yeah, the Lions Portal and it rhymes. I like that.
- [79:44]
A
So iconic. Stop it. Please call us back when you know the name. Lemon is a really cute name.
- [79:49]
B
I love the name Lemon.
- [79:50]
A
Yeah. Lemon.
- [79:51]
B
Name their baby that. It's so good.
- [79:52]
A
I know.
- [79:54]
B
Lemon said she liked it. That makes sense. Oh, she didn't even. Baby Lemon.
- [80:00]
A
Yeah. Lemon is so cute. I could never. Because I don't step foot in the kitchen.
- [80:03]
B
But, like, a little Lemon would be.
- [80:04]
A
Cute to be like, Little vape. Yeah. It's Little Geek Bar.
- [80:12]
B
Is that what it's called?
- [80:12]
A
It's a geek bar, but they discontinued the them. So if you see me roaming the streets of Hollywood holding smoke shop owners at gunpoint, just know I'll look in my smoke shop.
- [80:23]
B
There's a. That's where I get my lotto tickets. There's like a smoke shop I go into. Moses just told me that some of those pipes are for like and stuff. I'm like, really? Yeah. I'm like. I thought they were just like. No, like the ones that are like, long. Whatever.
- [80:33]
A
I don't know.
- [80:33]
B
I don't know anything about it. But it's a smoke shop out. I bar in there.
- [80:36]
A
I'm really trying to figure out what it is that's going to make me quit.
- [80:39]
B
But I guess them discontinuing.
- [80:41]
A
I mean, no. The tariffs, like, no. I don't know what it is.
- [80:45]
B
Fly to China for a show.
- [80:47]
A
You're like, maybe ego. Like, maybe I need you to be like, tana, you never keep your word on this. And, like, be so mean to me. Got me like a. The Alan Carr books. People read them and they say that by the end of it.
- [81:00]
B
You sound so familiar.
- [81:02]
A
He does. Like, how to stop smoking, how to stop vaping.
- [81:04]
B
Like, and by the end of it. What?
- [81:05]
A
And he has like 20 books. Like, now. It's like, how to stop vaping if you're a brunette woman in Georgia. Georgia.
- [81:11]
B
Like, it's like getting those book deals.
- [81:13]
A
Yeah.
- [81:13]
B
Yes.
- [81:14]
A
Like. But like. And I've never opened it. I just stare at it every day and suck my battery. It's like, Jesus. It's the hardest thing ever. But I will do this. I'm not giving up yet. I really. I'm not.
- [81:26]
B
It's hard.
- [81:28]
A
Yeah. We can't end on that note. You know what? I'm still a vapor. But life is good.
- [81:31]
B
And.
- [81:34]
A
Like, that's a horrible thing to say, actually.
- [81:37]
B
Everyone has vices. You're a normal person. Everyone has their vices and flaws.
- [81:41]
A
Adhd, dopamine, realness. And we will conquer this.
- [81:44]
B
But we will.
- [81:46]
A
We will. And we're not Peace era and Trisha, I just love you. I love this episode.
- [81:50]
B
We have more episodes to come.
- [81:51]
A
So many more to come. We're never stopping. Not Loveline from the nursing home one day.
- [81:56]
B
We love you, Patreon. Patreon.com not loveline. If you want to see extended podcast of the weekend. It gets very. Gets a little more worse.
- [82:03]
A
It gets so spicy. We love you. We love you. Lemonade and we love you.