WHEN TO MOVE ON + REIGNITING SPARKS IN YOUR LOVE LIFE

Summary

Not Loveline – Episode Summary

Podcast: Not Loveline
Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trisha Paytas
Episode: When to Move On + Reigniting Sparks in Your Love Life
Date: November 24, 2025

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Overview

In this lively episode, Tana and Trisha reunite after almost a month apart and dive into relationship questions sent in by listeners. The pair share personal stories about their own love lives, discuss how to reignite romance, tackle moving on from exes, and debate whether relationships with differing values (like religion or politics) can last. Their signature blend of playful banter and sincere honesty sets the tone for an episode full of laughs and practical, relatable advice.

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Main Topics & Key Insights

Reigniting the Spark in Relationships

[26:01–29:55] Listener Question: Best dates to spark back the love

• Both hosts acknowledge that romantic ruts are natural, especially with busy lives and kids.
• Tana: “I think that the spark is never gone if you want the spark still... Real love is not all about [the honeymoon phase].” ([26:48])
• Trisha and Tana suggest:
  • Revisit places or routines from the early days of your relationship (first date spot, favorite foods, inside jokes).
  • Engage in simple, nostalgic activities (jacuzzi nights, making a favorite meal).
  • Play interactive games like “We’re Not Really Strangers” or word association to build intimacy.
  • Small gestures (“Ask him, ‘What outfit should I wear later?’ and wear it for him.” – Tana, [29:44])
• Trisha: “Our lives are so boring...but it’s peaceful, there’s no drama. So I’m like, it’s boring, but I love it.” ([29:23])

Moving On From an Ex

[40:35–44:13] Listener Question: How do you get the crazy ex out of your brain? Why do they haunt my dreams?

• Tana: “If you know that you’re not supposed to be with someone and you choose not to, that’s a huge step.” ([41:47])
• Both hosts agree it’s common to hold on, but healthy love and time bring clarity.
  • Take pieces from past relationships as part of your growth (“We all are the mosaics of the people that we loved.”—Tana, [42:07])
  • Make a list of cons to remind yourself why it didn’t work.
• Memorable moment: Trisha and Tana joke about minimal kindness making them obsessed with former partners.
  • Tana: “One time I sneezed and he said, bless you, and I’m gonna be hung up on this man for a year.” ([44:04])
  • Trisha: “But one time he made me noodles at midnight!” ([43:59])

Knowing When to Move On

[44:13–45:39] Listener Question: How do you know when it’s the right time to move on?

• Tana: “If you’re asking that question, [you] know deep down.” ([44:13])
• Listen to your intuition; wanting more from life is a sign.
• If you’re romanticizing life without them, it’s a red flag.
• Trisha: “I don’t think there was ever a time with Moses where I’m like, maybe this is not what I want... if you’re thinking, like, when’s the time to move on...” ([44:40])

Compromising While Living Together

[35:32–39:36] Listener Question: Tips on compromising while living together

• Both admit they struggle! Tana: “I suck at compromising.” ([35:45])
• Some couples work well when one partner makes more decisions if it fits their dynamic.
• Trisha: “It works in our relationship. Controlling is like, the wrong word, but… I do make a lot of decisions and he’s happy to support and go along.”
• The key is seeing things from their perspective and identifying what matters most to each.
• Pick your battles; let small things slide if they’re not worth it in the big picture.
• Tana’s story: She and Makoa compromise by balancing Vegas party time with more “wholesome” outings (trips to the Hoover Dam, national parks).

Relationships with Differing Values

[47:21–51:41] Listener Question: Can a relationship survive different religious or political views?

• Tana: Yes, if both partners are open and not pushy: “So long as you’re not projecting it on me, pushing it on me, trying to change me, or a hateful, bigoted, awful person...” ([47:32])
• If you’re raising kids together, having shared values may matter more.
• If your differences bleed into feeling judged (food, religion, or politics), it’s likely not sustainable.
  • Trisha: “If I was with a vegan... I could not because I would feel judged eating my bacon...” ([50:33])
• The hosts agree that judgment is the real issue—not the differences themselves.

Listener Mailbag: Holiday Gifts for Your Partner

[53:40–55:57]

• Both find shopping for men difficult.
  • Tana: “All my gifts are just things I want to see him wear.” ([53:45])
  • Sentimental gifts (letters, paintings, poems) are always meaningful and a good “green flag” test.
• Pro tip: Shop together, make mental notes, and ask directly—men are usually straightforward!

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On keeping the romance alive:
  “You gotta do something that you used to do... like, maybe literally go to your first date spot.” – Tana ([27:43])
• On moving on:
  “We all are like, made up of all of the people that we’ve loved in our life in so many ways. And that’s okay.” – Tana ([42:07])
• On relationships with differing views:
  “It just depends on the [person]... there are the vegans that are like, ‘I don’t know how you eat that’... I hate that.” – Tana ([51:14])
• On compromising:
  “Pick your battles...there are certain things, like, with parenting or something like that. It’s like, OK, I’ll let him [have his way] this one.” – Trisha ([37:33])
• On exes:
  “One time, he made me noodles at midnight.” – Trisha ([43:59])

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Fun Tangents & Pop Culture

• The duo discusses their love for Skims vs. Victoria’s Secret, their misadventures with rainbow grilled cheese, and TV recs (“All’s Fair” with Kim Kardashian, “I <3 LA” with Rachel Sennott).
• Quick, hilarious word association game ([30:22])
• Musings on awards, dishwashing, favorite waters, and hotel choices in Vegas.

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Timestamps of Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|-------------| | Reigniting the Spark | 26:01–29:55 | | Compromising While Living Together | 35:32–39:36 | | Moving On From an Ex | 40:35–44:13 | | Knowing When to Move On | 44:13–45:39 | | Relationships with Differing Values | 47:21–51:41 | | Holiday Gifts for Your Partner | 53:40–55:57 | | TV & Pop Culture Recs | 15:56–19:37 | | Word Association Game | 30:22–31:34 |

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

Light, open, irreverent, and supportive. Tana and Trisha blend humor, self-deprecation, and surprising vulnerability. While they admit they’re not experts, their candid stories and lessons learned offer comfort to anyone navigating love, heartbreak, or domestic life. Their message: love is messy, compromising is tricky, and sometimes “boring” is beautiful.

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Transcript

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I know. It's been. It has been like, almost like a full month, I think, since we left. I hate it too.

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I never want to go that long again. I'm not kidding. Like, even seeing you last night, I liked. It's so funny because you and I do this thing where even if we have, like, 20 minutes with each other, we will literally, like, go in a corner and be like, yeah, like, we slam in as much as we can in 20 minutes.

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Yes. We love Patreon episode Patreon today. And. Hi. Okay, we're back. So we're continuing our New York adventure. We will answer questions, I promise, in like, in, like, 20 minutes. But just give us 20 minutes. Another debrief. Okay. I love, like, just give us 20 minutes.

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Give us 20 minutes. Okay.

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We'll get it on. We can't stop talking. But I would love to match everywhere.

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Like, I love matching with you so much. Like, I was just saying, I was in the store and I saw these, and I envisioned this moment, and then I'm here, and it's, like, better than it could ever be.

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And I, like, feel so happy, so cozy vibe.

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They're so cute. They're just the cutest pajamas. I love Victoria's Secret pajamas so much. And can I just say, you. I have this whole tangent for the last episode. Here I go sucking the fart. God forbid I want to gas up my friend. You look so good. Like, it's. And obviously, like, when you're doing what you're meant to be doing and you're on your highest. Like, you're glowing. Also, the blonde, though. Like, last night in the photos that we took. And I don't mean, like, just the hair. I literally mean, like, face. You are giving, like, Pam Anderson.

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What? No.

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I kept thinking that last night staring at you, I.

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Flash was a little diabolical for me. After coming off, like, stage. Like, stage makeup is so crazy. I was like, oh, I look a little.

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No, you don't. Like, I swear to God, you literally, like, that's Pam Anderson. I. I can't. Like, the blonde and the smile. No, I'm being dead.

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Sometimes I'm like, yes, I feel you. No, no, I swear to Jimmy, because that's crazy. No, sometimes I'm like, yeah, I'm giving Pam there. No, not at all.

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You are. You are. And you're so blonde. I literally look like you're, like, brun. Little cousin right now that you, like, took with you for the day to, like, try podcasting. Like, you're so blonde. It looks so good.

[A]

No, you know what it is? It's like, I did get my roots done while I was here. Thank God. Like, shout out Instagram people. I always ask people on Instagram, like, where can I go? And then they gave me this recommendation. Yeah, shout out Jacob Sardini. He's at the Perlita Salon here in New York City, and he did it really good. So did it half the time, half the price. Loved it so much. But I do have, like, blonde extensions to make it blonder. If I didn't have these in, I think it would look a little darker.

[B]

But that front piece is just, like, calling me back to the dark. Side there.

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But I love this. I do love a Rudy moment too. I was Rudy when I got here and I kind of loved it.

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So I have to.

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Rainbow girl cheese from the last hell now. Yes. Bryant Park. I really feel like you should go there. You will. There will be like a lot of people that come up to you, which you handle it very well, and I usually do too. But I think like the grilled cheese of it all. Like, I think like when you stop to take pictures, right, like you have two seconds to get a cheese pole, as we know. And so I was like, it's rainbow girl cheese. Well, how it's rainbow, I don't know. It doesn't seem like green cheese is coming from a cow. You know what I mean? What?

[B]

Maybe a really gay cow just like had a rainbow moment.

[A]

That's actually out of everything. The gay grilled cheese. And yeah, I had like a few seconds to get it. And honestly, this one because people were like, I was. I pulled a 2020 Addison Ray where she was like, one second, let me do this. Tick tock. I did that. And like, you know why shout out Addison Ray. Like, yes. Boundaries. Be like, yes. Can I just do this real quick?

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Like, I love that video because she. And she's outside of Earth Cafe, which I also think really is like a cultural landmark. Like, it adds to the moment.

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Yeah. And Melrose. So good at the ballet too. Like, just be like, I gotta do this now. Grammy. Grammy nominee.

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Like, I know her aunt. Alex Warren.

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Is that crazy.

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I love him.

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Like, Grammy. Like, it's.

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It's. Alex Warren is nominated for a Grammy. And if you told me that in any other timeline. Not that he's not that talented, it's just it. The. The growth being so fast.

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Yeah.

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So cool. I'm. No one deserves it like him.

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Yeah, no, for sure. He is like.

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I mean, I'm sure all of the other people do. I just obviously, like, I know him. So I feel.

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Yeah. Time. But that canceled episode up ever. Because he's literally. He's gonna win the grand.

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I'm on not Loveline if he's down. Like, I've got to busy. Let me stop actually asking Alex Warren to do anything. Like, just, love you. I'll see you.

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He's like, it's gonna get to get deleted. No, I think he'll win. I love Addison. I do love Addison. And in my heart, I would vote for Addison, but I think Alex will win.

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Cat's eyes in there too, though. They' great. They're all great.

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It's Very huge.

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Yeah, that's always how the gram. The Grammy people pick. I'd be like. Like the mean girls tiara. I'd want to give everyone a slice.

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That'd be cute if someone did that, like, you know, with their Grammy to start, like.

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Yeah. Bringing it, like, just. I. They're all so good. Like, how do you decide to win an award?

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We always talk about manifesting. I would love to win an award. I don't know what it would be for, but I would love to win an award. Not even just.

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All of it. Like, Emmy, Grammy, Oscars. Can you win awards for Broadway?

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You can, but you originate the role.

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Yeah, but like, what? Like, how do you originate a role?

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You have to be the first one to do it. Oh, so like, the first. Like, Glinda. But, like, if you come in now as Glinda on Wicked, like, you can't win a Tony because, like, that's already been the same thing with Beetlejuice. The original Beetlejuice was nominated for Tony. Alex Brightman. But, like, this new Beetlejuice, Justin can't be because he didn't originate the role. No. Yeah, but, like, I mean, I really.

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Feel comfortable you're gonna originate a role. Oh, I would love, love you will.

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Okay. Manifest that. All right, but so Rainbow girl cheese. Oh, well, that was it.

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And you didn't get to your cheese pulling time freezing day because you're so famous.

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Oh, no, no, no. So what I said was, like, one second to everybody. I was like, I need to do this. This is so important. Because it was, like, literally all I wanted to do. But it was freezing. Like, actually freezing cold. I was below freezing. And so I like, pulled it apart and it just, like, stuck. And it just, like, straight up cheese. I tried to eat a little bit of it, and it was just like, it was not.

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It know that that restaurant went home and, like, somebody got the lashing of a century. Like, Trisha Paytas came for a cheese full of no cheese. Someone's out.

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Can I tell you, too? I cut it off. But, like, we were filming me getting the grilled cheese and stuff. I'm sorry, I'm dying. You do a potty? No, no. I'm literally your child.

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I'm actually Malibu. I start freaking out, and she goes, do you have to potty again? No, I'm just dying. Like, that's so funny. Like, it's not funny, but, like, you know, they were scrambling that you didn't.

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And I like, filmed the entire thing. So I was so excited for this. Like, it's it's really viral on Tik Tok. Like, it's, like, all over Tik Tok. And so I really was excited to get it. And we had gone earlier, and they were closed, and we came back when they were open, and, like, we had. Our machines are down. Like, I was like. We spent, like, three hours there to, like, get this grilled cheese. And so I was so excited to finally get it. We were, like, the first in line. And then, like, they were really sweet. They were, like, giving me stickers, like, oh, I've watched you for so long. So then I was like, let me cut everyone out of it because, like, the cheese bowl was not. And I really wanted it to be good. And I still, like, didn't want to, like, dog.

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I should have had, like, a blowtorch there for you.

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So your cheese. Could you just melt this a little bit?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was.

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It was. Yeah, it was really. It was sad. But, you know, life goes on.

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Life definitely goes on. We could try again. Like, dude, do you want to try again?

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Because it is. It's. It's a lot. It's like. It's like the grove on steroids. Like, because it's like, the main tourist attraction on, like, Fifth Avenue.

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And it's like, oh, wow.

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Lots of food carts and stuff. But, you know, I do want to try some cool food. I just don't know.

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I feel like Moses could, like, make you a rainbow grilled cheese at home.

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I don't know.

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Moses can do anything in my head.

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Yeah, you're right.

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You know what I mean?

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Maybe. Yeah, maybe he would be able to because, like, Malibu loves a rainbow cake, so maybe he could figure out rainbow cheese.

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But, yeah, I know that you take your cheese pull seriously, so I'm very sorry that. That. Because even, like, when we get something with cheese, we're always making sure it's really hot, so we get our good pull.

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Like, yeah, yeah. Need that cheese pull.

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Was it at least, like, yummy cheese, like a pepper jack or. Oh, no, they're.

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Dude. Because I went to. I. Because I. I did the cheese pull, it stuck straight up. And I was like, let me just try a bite. And I was like, it felt like it tastes like play. D'oh.

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No, I mean, I guess getting it rainbow and yummy.

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Yeah. Impossible.

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Now I want to, like, put makoa on the case. I'm like, make me a yummy rainbow grilled cheese. Maybe, like, I want to go back.

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To Hawaii, because I was gonna say rainbow grilled cheese Sounds insane, but, like, food Color.

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I don't. I don't know anything.

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But no, the food coloring is one thing, but then, like, how do you get the multiple? Like, how do you get them?

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Probably one by one by. Ashley Schwann is who we should get on the case. Yeah, she would be able to do that.

[A]

Oh, right. But that was so smart because I was not thinking about that. I was like, how are they getting all that? Yeah, I think the layering of it all.

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I don't cook. Cook. That's all I know one day.

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Yeah, I see it. I see it for sure.

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It's so hard with, like, having Ashley dance because I just, like, she makes everything. Anything you ever want. Like, if we go to a restaurant and, like, have something good, she'll, like, just remake it that week. Like, she's just like that.

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That's the problem. Yeah. When you have someone good at home cooking, like, you don't want to get it anywhere else. Like, no, Literally, spaghetti. I'm like, I don't want to get it anywhere else. I do. But, like, it's not the same. No, it's Moses.

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And she makes everything the best. Like, just how we like it. Like, season and stuff. It's so funny. I'll always be with her, and I'm like, we're going to live together forever. Like, I can't live without you. Like. Like, you cook everything.

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Whatever. She's like, yeah, we're going to live.

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Together forever because she's the only Cooking and cleaning she's. I hope I don't live with you.

[A]

Do you think she would move out if she got married?

[B]

I mean, I think I would beg on my hands and knees. Like, in my dream world, we have a conjoined house.

[A]

Yeah, that cul de sac.

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I never want to live without her, literally. But, like, I think in her dream.

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World, she's been together a long time.

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Yeah, I just. Oh, my God. She is like my other half, you know? Like, I'm like, she is like the. She's so. What's the word? Like, domesticated.

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Yeah.

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Like, I don't know what. She's always been that way for me, too. She's like, let me help you pack this. Like, let me help you.

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Like, in people, I think, like, you just have it in your dogs. I would love to be, too. Like, I would love to be. And I'm just like, I can't. I'm not. I'm not a nurturer. I wish I could be. I mean, with my kids, I am. But, like, maybe more so now. But I'M really bad.

[B]

Like, you are to me, sick. Like, in the sweetest way.

[A]

Yeah. I think I'm getting better now that I'm like, mom. Yeah.

[B]

But I get, like, cooking and cleaning and stuff is a whole different piece now.

[A]

And some people, like, I love cooking, and some people, like, I love cleaning. And I was like, yeah, I, like, wish that was in me.

[B]

She just taught me how to do laundry, and she was, like, livid. Like, like, the way she was like, how do you not know how to do that?

[A]

For learning. What did you learn?

[B]

I learned. Well, you have to. At least this is the Ashley way. Like, she's like, triple spraying every stain before it goes in the washer. I was like, but can't the washer, like, wash it? We do wash. Exactly. Wash it. And she was like, no. Like, the stain won't come out. Like, the separation of the colors and the fabric. She really takes it serious.

[A]

And you're a stainy girl.

[B]

Big staining. No, I was wearing everything. I stain everything.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So you're using it, and you're able to do it. Get the same.

[B]

Yeah. I learned I don't mind laundry. I'm realizing that I was doing it in Hawaii, and I was just like, I can do this.

[A]

Laundry is cute. And it kind of is.

[B]

Like, it's dishes.

[A]

I used to love doing dishes.

[B]

No, like, someone else's crusted, dusted. I can't. I hate it.

[A]

I guess if you're doing it, I just stain this. Yeah. Wait, what is it?

[B]

I got a little tart lip on there. Oh, okay.

[A]

This is your lip. Lippy. Yeah.

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It's a good. It's a good color.

[A]

I love it so much. No, I feel like if it's like. Yeah. If it's like, dishes are, like, weirdly therapeutic even after Thanksgiving. Like, a big things. I love, like, the not sponsored, but, like, the dawn. Like, I should be sponsored. I love this so much, and I want everyone to sell it out. It's the dawn foam sprays for dishwashing, and there's, like, a green apple and a lemon, and it makes your kitchen smell so good.

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Okay. I know. They clean off the ducts like the dawn. That was my favorite commercial. You know, when the ducks have the oil on them and they're from the oil spill, and then the dawn gets the oil off the little duck, and now they're, like, making it with AI. I'm like, I know. No integrity. I get us a real duck.

[A]

Oh, my God. Well, hopefully they're not getting spilled on anymore.

[B]

Yeah. I Guess that's true.

[A]

But if they are, we should go clean ducks.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[A]

We always think of, like, ways to get back, and I would love to go clean. I would love to do more with animals. I feel like I was scared of animals so much in my life, and I feel like now I like.

[B]

You're right by the gentle barn.

[A]

What is that here in New York or I have at home?

[B]

No, in. In la. The gentle barn. They, like, re home. Lots of, like, big animal, like, cows and emus. Like, all these things, and they're super sweet. Josie always does it, like, for her birthday and different stuff. So, like, that's how I've, like, been introduced to it.

[A]

With animals. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's cute.

[A]

Oh, my. Okay. I need to do it.

[B]

I really want to, like, we could Gentle Barney.

[A]

Let's do that.

[B]

So simple life. Let's go.

[A]

That'd be fun.

[B]

That'd be so.

[A]

And then what do you do? You, like.

[B]

You, like, pet them and feed them and, like.

[A]

Okay. You're not finding homes for them.

[B]

No, I think they are. I think it's more about, like, awareness, like, us going and, like, talking about. I don't know, though. Let me, like, just shut up.

[A]

No, but I love. No, it's good.

[B]

Educated as well. Just sitting here, pulling out of my. Also, I'm so sorry. What? To the viewers, I am, like, so ADHD that I move around so much, and I feel like I'm such a hard watch if I'm not comfortable on a chair. And one day I'm gonna be so still.

[A]

Do you want to switch? They're different chairs. I will say no.

[B]

No, it's. I think I could be in any chair right now, and I'd just be doing this, and I'm having the time of my life. I feel like I look like.

[A]

No, but me, too. I'm so used to our big chairs because, like, Mo's always designed. She's so big. So when I'm on, like, a regular furniture, I'm always just like, do I fit on furniture?

[B]

We should do a podcast from, like, Lazy Boy Recliners. Bring lazy. I just saw Girl Boss Town talking about that. Like, bring Lazy Boy Recliners.

[A]

Just our feet in the frame. Because, like, you're, like, backwards, so your.

[B]

Feet always dogs out on. Not Loveline to, like. I'm sorry. It's just, like, I don't. I get comf. And I love you guys.

[A]

Even not in the. In our own house. It's like, literally just, like, a studio in Brooklyn. Literally. We're gonna be barefoot changing. With all the cameras going, I'm like.

[B]

I don't know if this is, like, where we do. I'm like, I get too comfortable anywhere. Like, I will treat anywhere like I'm home.

[A]

Well, what's so funny is, like, we'll just change here. We literally change right here on the set where there's, like, cameras, lights, everything. And then, like, not more than a minute later, you're like, I need to go to the. I think I'm gonna go to the bathroom. I was like, why didn't we just go to the bathroom to change?

[B]

No, I literally thought that I was, like, walking over there in my onesie and kitten heels. This studio has never seen a.

[A]

Like, this.

[B]

Okay. And it's like, I could have just changed.

[A]

We're right next to the. I guess we can say I guess because they advertise it, but we're right next to a bone museum.

[B]

I saw that. Yeah. I don't know how I feel about that. Whenever I think of that, like, I think of the bodies exhibit in the Luxor, and I get weird.

[A]

Oh, oh, okay. Not manifesting, like, whose bones?

[B]

Well, I know people give their bones to science. Honestly, it's that I should give my. To science for sure. Like, see the effects of everything I've done.

[A]

So more I don't even think about it. Okay.

[B]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

Let's switch it.

[B]

Knocking on wood.

[A]

Remember the show Bones?

[B]

Oh, my. And what happened in it?

[A]

David Borean's.

[B]

That was, like, the same time as, like, Lost, right? It was all these, like, little shows with names. Bones. Lost.

[A]

Yeah, you're right.

[B]

It's like, more ncis.

[A]

That's a big one, though. That's like, a Law and Order films here in New York. We should go try and be on it.

[B]

Oh, my God. That'd be everything. Have you ever started watching All's Fair with Kim Kardashian?

[A]

Oh, no. You love Risha.

[B]

It's. It's a niche thing. I do not think everyone would love it. Like, I've been seeing a lot of people. People love to put on their reviewer hat, too, you know, and they're, like, her acting in this and, like, whatever. I think it's so camp. It is so camp.

[A]

Like, is it the fashion that you like? Is it the hair? Because I know everyone's, like, saying, like.

[B]

The fashion is sickening. You're gonna want to dress like it every day. Like, it's so, like, she's. I love it. By the way, the it in question is Kim Kardashian. But she's just in these insane, like, archival looks. And, like, I really like the premise of the show, too.

[A]

What is the premise? I don't know.

[B]

It's four women, and they're, I think, and they're divorce lawyers, so they're helping women, like, leave these awful men. And the cases are so interesting, and, like, all of the cases are so, like. Like, could be so plausible in real life. Like, and just, like, they eat these men alive, and then they're going through drama in their personal life with their men. Like, Kim Kardashian, her character is. Was married to, like, a football player, I think, or he's a big athlete, and then he, like, does her dirty. And it's like.

[A]

It's just.

[B]

I love it. I think you would love it.

[A]

I. I've heard, like, there was, like, bad reviews, but then there's got, like, 3 million views. So then people are like, what? People are watching. So it's like, are people just hating on it?

[B]

I'm watching it.

[A]

Three males.

[B]

I'm watching it through.

[A]

It sounds like something I would like. I think I would like it. It's Ryan Murphy, right?

[B]

Yes. And I'm not sitting here saying it's, like, the most insane acting I've ever seen in my life. Like, you know what I mean?

[A]

But you.

[B]

I think it's good. I also, like, like, camp acting. Yes. And, like, everyone.

[A]

Ash, she's. I love her. If I could have anyone's career, like, it'd be, like, either Niecy National Coolidge. Like, I just love those actresses. They're just, like, sexy but funny and funny and sexy. So I don't know like, everything about him.

[B]

Niecy Nash and Sarah Paulson. Yeah, their lines in this, they're hilarious. Sarah Paulson's hilarious. Me, she hates everyone, too. That's her character. And she's, like, telling everyone to, like, eat a bag of, like. She's, like, really being, like, so funny. It's.

[A]

What's it on?

[B]

It's good. It's on Hulu, you know, we haven't.

[A]

Watched any TV since we've been here, so I've been. I'm so out of the loop with, like, tick tock and tv.

[B]

You also need to watch I Love LA with Rachel Sennott.

[A]

I just heard about this.

[B]

It's so good. It's so accurately la. It made me realize, like, how LA we are.

[A]

Someone just told me, like, right before this, they're like, it's you and Tana. And I was like, what does that Mean and like, the way they talk.

[B]

They say, lore, we are so you, like, forget. You, like, forget how LA you are when you live in la, but like.

[A]

But is that how they talk on it or is that how you're just talking?

[B]

They don't. It's not that. Like valley. But I'm just saying, like, what I'm saying is so la. But like, you just forget, like, the opening scene is them, like having an interaction with someone that they don't always see and they leave the interaction and they're all looking at each other going, I needed this so bad. I needed this so bad. And I'm always saying that I'll see someone. I'm like, oh my God, I needed this so bad. Like, you don't even realize how L A you are until you like, is.

[A]

It like satire, parody? Or is like, no, Marge. Like, is it like, nice to L A or is it like more like.

[B]

These L A people satire, but also like homage? Like, and it's very. I think a lot of shows try to accurately depict how LA is and it's kind of like corny or like, not. It's so on the nose that it's.

[A]

Like, okay, I need to watch I love Rachel's Hunt. Like, I love her. I love her since the Idol. Like, I love this girl.

[B]

You know how her Instagram handle is Treakly Child?

[A]

Oh, no, I don't think I follow her.

[B]

I literally thought that was her name until the show came out and I was telling everyone. I was like, I love Trickly Child. You're literally an idiot, Tana. An idiot. A full blown idiot.

[A]

She's so funny. I love, I love those shows with like, yeah, that she like, created it.

[B]

And like, I love it is like, so good.

[A]

Oh man, you're getting me. I have to. I haven't watched TV in so long. When I get home, I'll like, watch.

[B]

And like, they're both kind of for the girls. It's funny. Like, I'm making Nicole watch both of these shows and like, I'm like, trisha needs to see this so we can talk.

[A]

I love for the girls ones we watch, like really old ones. But I need to watch, like, current ones. What's happening? I wish I could, like, talk about it and get excited about it.

[B]

Cuz I like, I think you'll be cosplaying. All's fair. Like, I think you'll, like, love it. Like, you'll want to have the ties and like the, like, it's a serve.

[A]

I mean, I saw one of Like Kim, like, wearing a thong outside of her skirt. I'm like, I don't know if that's like, my vibe.

[B]

No, we need that. Don't care.

[A]

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[A]

Oh my God. NC Geek sent you to the sphere. See wizard of Oz and Adam Sandler, right? Yes.

[B]

Seatgeek honestly is everything. And it's funny because I like, Trevi just texted me. She was like, what's your code? And I was like, not level 10, go.

[A]

And you got front row tickets. Adam Sandler was Seatgeek.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Which campaign am I. Yeah. Same amount of money.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

Like, I probably Victoria's Secret.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Because that's more iconic, right? Like, for the campaign. But if you told me I could spend a million dollars at one of the places, I'm picking scam.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, God. It's so tough because I love skims. I think it's just like so cute and cozy and. Yeah. But I guess you're right. Probably I'm more Victoria's Secret coated too, with the, like the.

[B]

Just the.

[A]

In the sparkles. Yeah.

[B]

Like, the campaign would be like, fragrances, the wings, like, the whatever. But like, skims is the best daily wardrobe Absolutely ever. Like, no one's beating that skims baby tea. No one's beating that skims. Like, two piece set.

[A]

Like. Yeah, I got a cashmere one and I've been wearing all over New York.

[B]

Have you gotten into Kai at all? Like, Kylie Jenner's?

[A]

Oh, I ordered some stuff from there. I'm gonna be so real. Like, I wanted to love it.

[B]

What'd you get?

[A]

I got like those twisty. There was like a twisty, like, athletic set that came out was like a navy blue. And then I got a twisty lime green, like, tube dress. And then there was a gray one. She wore that. Like, I was buying everything Kylie was wearing and it just was like, it did not. It looks great on Kylie. Looked horrible on me.

[B]

It is. I got a pair of leather pants from there and I put them on and I was like, these are so sickening. But they are, like, so built for Kylie's body. It's actually funny when I just dressed as Kylie and I wore the leather pants and I did the skims butt pads with them, and the second that I put the skims butt pad on, I was like, oh, my God. These now fit me perfectly. Oh, like these were made for that body.

[A]

Oh, I see. Yeah. Because even the. The stuff I got was like thin material and I'm like, you have to have, like, the most perfect body to show any role to the God.

[B]

Yeah, that's true. I like the outerwear, though. Like, I just got a coat from Kai. Yeah.

[A]

I like the big puffer ones. They. I mean, I would look crazy. And puffer coats do not look at me. I look a giant marshmallow.

[B]

No, I Love when your coat is so much bigger than you and you're like a little head coming out of your coat. That's my favorite.

[A]

Like, look, giving Ike a monkey. Yeah, I love that too. Oh, my gosh. We have to show you one of Elvis. Oh, my God, it was so cute. We were coming out yesterday and she had this like, same kind of thing. She had like this giant coat.

[B]

I saw someone comment. I'm literally a fan, by the way. I'm just like constantly talking about her comments. Like, I just love, I love Trisha's comment sections because, like, people are so funny in them. Like, the gays are so funny.

[A]

They really are.

[B]

But someone said Malibu is so Malibu and Elvis is so Elvis.

[A]

And I like their characters.

[B]

I can't, like, I don't know how to explain it though. Like, their names fit them so well. Like, they are so them.

[A]

Yeah. Thank you. I know. I see that now too. Like, I'm so happy we didn't like, wait for like a boy to name them Elvis. Because, like, Elvis is so Elvis.

[B]

Because Elvis is so cool. Like, Elvis always has like a look on her face where she's like, yeah, man, like you're cool. But like, like she knows she's her. Like Elvis will like turn and look at you and you're like, sorry. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and Malibu is very like, star, like coming in like Ms. Barb. Like, they're so.

[A]

I kind of love that analogy. Yeah, there's. There's her and her big coat. Yes.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I think it was Malibu's coat. I think they switched coats. I think Malibu had Elvis's on because it was like too small. And so I think they had switched big. Yeah. So big. No, it's crazy. I know. She just runs big.

[B]

I finally have like, accepted. But now, like, what do you mean? Elvis is not a newborn.

[A]

No, no. She's a full on toddler talking.

[B]

And how's Aquaman?

[A]

He's a part of the baby at the family. Yeah, he, you know, he can't do. He's.

[B]

He.

[A]

We keep him in because it's like, cold. We'll take him out to like parks and stuff like that, but even then, like, he can't. Like, obviously we take our baby out and stuff like that, but like restaurants he doesn't like, enjoy. Sometimes we'll take him out for like a lunch. But yeah, if it's like a dinner and stuff. But yeah. Should we answer some questions? Let's do it. Okay. Okay. Let's answer some questions. We're at. Okay, we're at good on time.

[B]

This is actually fun. We Trisha posted a story, so we're doing an Instagram question segment, which I think is different.

[A]

Yeah. Answering. Yeah, it's like a little bit of a Q A. I never do Q&As, like, on Instagram. But, like, I do love to ask people. Oh, my God. Did not go through. What happened? Oh, here it is. Me for you. We love you. I know. You are missed. Yeah. Literally. Oh, my gosh. Okay. I really thought we had so many episodes. I thought, oh, New York will just be like a fun one to throw in there. But meanwhile, I was like, no, we literally done. Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, we take a Thanksgiving break, you guys. By the way, I'm. We're sorry.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sorry. Oh, yes, yes.

[B]

Like, I don't know. Let me shut.

[A]

This will be happy Thanksgiving, I think this episode. But we'll see you in December. Yes. Okay. So I love these. Okay. I'm literally just going straight off, off the cuff here. Best dates to spark back the love. And that's from Knights F33.

[B]

Okay. I got, like, really sad at that question and I don't know why.

[A]

Oh, wait, really? Why?

[B]

Okay. Because I want them to spark back the love. Let me get, like, asking.

[A]

Because, like, here's the thing. Like, like, yeah, but like, me and Moses too. Like, it's like right now we're so, like, not in, like, romance because it's like doing the show and he's coming to the show, but also, like, taking care of the kids, but also doing the podcast. And like, it's not in a romantic place right now. So, like, yeah, you need to. But I'm like, clocking.

[B]

It's so true.

[A]

I was like, how do we get the romance back?

[B]

And I think that the spark is never gone if you want the spark still. Because, yeah, people also, like, romanticize. Like, I think the puppy dog stage is great. Right. And I think that being in the honeymoon era is so fun. But at the same time, like, like, real love is not all about that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, you, relationships do go through ebbs and flows, even like weekly. You know what I mean? Like, you'll have a week where you're like, kissing a bunch and you're like, oh, my God, all over. Or like, obsessed and lovey dovey and you'll have another week where you're both like, stress and it's just more about tackling life together. Like, it's so much about having a partner in life too. It's so much more than, like, you know. So, like, that is true. Yeah. I got unsad. I got realistic here. Best dates. To get the spark back, I think you gotta do something. I love doing this with McCob. Like, if you do something that you used to do.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Sometimes that can be so great.

[A]

Oh, my God, that's a good one.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like, if you guys, like, used to always go out and dance together. If you used to always go get a drink together, like, maybe literally go to your first date spot. Like, yeah, yeah. Like. Like, for me, I'm like, Hawaii is obviously where we met and had a lot of our honeymoon. And, like, even if we just go back to places where we, like, first kissed or, like, places that we used to go on, like, dates, like, I'll be like, oh, my God, like, this is how I fell in love with you. And like, yes, it brings that out of both of us.

[A]

But it can be so true. Yes. Ours is. Oh, my God, the cups are so pretty. Ours was like that with. The cups are so cute.

[B]

They are so cute.

[A]

I wish it was a bear.

[B]

Oh, my God, it's so funny. I went on this whole tangent about the Starbucks holiday bear, and the top comment was like, I know Trisha wants that bear. She can have the bear.

[A]

I'm, like, obsessed with it. I'm, like, weirdly obsessed with it. Thank you so much.

[B]

They have it on Amazon just without the Starbucks logo.

[A]

A DIY project.

[B]

No, it's like, just. It's the same. It's literally. They're all made in some factory.

[A]

But not with the green beanie.

[B]

No, it's still a green beanie. It just doesn't say Starbucks. But you can make it say, like, just Trish. You should get someone to bling it up.

[A]

Okay, done. And get blinged out to be on it, for sure.

[B]

That's cute.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

This is so cute.

[A]

So festive. Cheers. I love that we switched orders. Usually you're getting coffee and I got tea. I had green tea down there. The ice cream tea is really good.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I had, like, a big. Two big ones today.

[B]

I love a green tea. It does give me anxiety sometimes, but I just like raw dog through it.

[A]

Rat dog's crazy. We, my, ours, we used to be, like, at corn. He was Jacuzzi.

[B]

Oh, exactly.

[A]

I love Jacuzzi.

[B]

It could be the dumbest. Like, dumbest little, like. Not that that's dumb, but I'm saying, like, even a food that you guys like or, like, simp that's the word. It could be the.

[A]

I call our lives boring all the time. I'm always like, oh, my God, our lives are so boring. And I mean, no, it's like it. But it's like, it's peaceful. There's no drama. So I'm like, it's boring. But I'm like, I love it. Like, I love the boring.

[B]

Exactly. But it could be as simple as a Jacuzzi. Or, like, literally just like, silly little things. Or, like, even doing something for each other. Like, asking him, like, what outfit should I wear later?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and then, like, you wear it like, for him. Or like, he asks. Asks you that. Or like, cooking a meal together. Like, I think there are so many little things. There are games, like play. We are not really strangers. Like, sitting.

[A]

What is that?

[B]

It's like the card game. We should do it for a Loveline episode, actually. We'd probably, like, be sobbing, but it's like, you ask each other a bunch of deep questions, and it's like a little card game. Do a deep episode. I would love that.

[A]

Get, like, real.

[B]

Let's get to know each other, like, more deeper childhood.

[A]

What was the game we played last time?

[B]

Oh, my God. Our word association.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's so funny.

[B]

She took off, which I love. Okay, let's win it. Oh, are we doing it? Okay.

[A]

I love how you get prepared.

[B]

I have to, like, sit up. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Red Clifford the big Red Dog. Mind you. Dustin Zoe 101.

[A]

Alexa Nicholas. Can you just do one word or no?

[B]

No, I like that. I like that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Alexa Nicholas. Dan Schneider. I'm so sorry. I could not problematic. Anything else? Yeah. Messy.

[A]

Soccer. Net. Nothing.

[B]

Zilch. Zh.

[A]

Zero present.

[B]

Hefner.

[A]

Cow. Beef. Arby's.

[B]

Steak nugget.

[A]

Arby's. Lots of Arby's. You just see a big fat check.

[B]

Comes in for you.

[A]

Word association. Arby's. I was going to say Alex Cooper.

[B]

Oh, my God. Okay.

[A]

Yes. Are we.

[B]

Are we signing to unwell?

[A]

Oh, my God. Wait. Okay. I don't know. We can talk about this and we don't have to, but I was like, yeah, right. Your manager was like, can you give me all the analytics? Like, uncle's making it up. I was like, wait, can I be included? What's happening?

[B]

Yeah, I don't know what's happening literally at all either, to be honest with you.

[A]

I mean, I love it. I love the enthusiasm, but I was like, oh, my God. Like, I'm like, I also just want.

[B]

To, like, Love it. We love, like.

[A]

Oh, you went in. Okay. Sorry. Not to catch up.

[B]

Well, no, I went. I did Halle Bachelder's podcast. Guess so. I just like, happened to be there.

[A]

Oh, I thought you, like, literally went in and was like. Cuz I know you're like, thinking like, doing. No, you thought I took a meeting for Love Life without you, for your own thing. Because I know you're trying to do like, your own project, so I thought, oh, maybe you're doing like, which makes sense for sure.

[B]

But no, no, I'm not ready by any means, like, to start my own project or own podcast. I mean, like, I. I know that at some point I will, like, probably do something, but it. I don't know. I'm enjoying doing this. I'm enjoying this time. I also just, like, want to make sure whatever I do next is, like, very different from anything I've done before. Like, I just. I think that doing the same thing would be redundant.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, ending canceled and then just like, talking about pop culture without Brooke would just be like, why'd you end canceled? You know, like, I. Yeah, I weirdly.

[A]

Like, understand why you. And. Well, I always have understood why. Because you're like, you know, doing four years, everything. But like, I'm in that era too, I think. Especially now being here, and I'm just like, so offline and. And like, thinking of Hot Topics for, like, tomorrow. I was just like, it's not that I don't care, but it's like, I don't care enough to like, comment on it. You know what I mean? Because it's like Colleen just did a podcast. She's Raven Simone's podcast. Right. And it's like a big thing. Like, the reason I know is because Adam McIntyre did a video and I was like, watching his, and it's like, it like. Like, it takes me out of my, like, little happy bubble, right? Like, and it makes me sad. Like, Adam on there is like, really sad and then kind of like, made me sad and it kind of made me, like, really, like, angsty and like, I was getting anxiety about it and stuff like that. And I was just like, like, oh. Like, I. I don't know if it's like, I don't know, like, my calling to do Hot Topics. Like, I love this. Like, I love a podcast where you just talk and have fun.

[B]

That's exactly how I started to feel.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And sometimes you feel passionate about a hot topic, right?

[A]

All day long. I'm coming for you.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, you know, and then it's like.

[B]

You speak on it, and that's kind of what I do here. But you know what I find really interesting is that you literally reap what you sow. And I don't want to, like, demote cancel to just a drama podcast either, because now it's like. Like, Brooke and I were talking about this the other day because we. Her and I kept saying, like, you know, we don't want to talk about the drama. And then now other interviewers will come back and be like, you guys ended it, because the drama. And it's like, it's fine when I say it, but, like, we also were talking about our real lives, too.

[A]

Like, you know what I mean?

[B]

But I do think that you reap what you sow in the regard that when you are talking about hot topics or maybe coming at other people, just like, anything of that nature, that. That's kind of the. The. The canceled environment.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the fan base kind of started to, like, do that back to us.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Whereas now when I'm talking about, like, sobriety more or, like, coming out of my 20s or giving advice or, like, doing my audience, I noticed that I'm, like, reaping what I sow in that regard, if that makes sense. Like, it's. I almost want my next thing to, like, if I ever do, to be about, like, mental health or, like, business or just something like, different business.

[A]

Podcast would be crazy for you because you are so good at it, it and like, navigating it. That would be, like, such a good one. All of it. Mental health, all of it.

[B]

Just, like, different things. I'm interested in different types of interview, different things in this era.

[A]

Yeah, that's my thing too, I think. Like, I'll, like. I do love podcasting. I always love it. But, like, yeah, it's kind of like, do I have to go and, like, look at, like, what happened with this? You know what I mean? But I like to do the positive one, so I like positive hot topics. Like, we talked about, like, you know, Axe Warren and, like, Addison. Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I love that so much. All right, let's get another question.

[B]

Alex Earl is also second now, India, or, like, she's in the top two of Dancing with the Stars.

[A]

Wait, what does that mean? There's only two left?

[B]

There's two left, right? Her and Robert Irwin.

[A]

Wait, really?

[B]

There's four left? I'm done.

[A]

Whitney. I was like, wait, what do you mean there's two left? See? See, that's a perfect example as to why I shouldn't be talking about These things, but that's a fun Hot topic. She's doing really good, though.

[B]

Yeah. All tense and she looks beautiful.

[A]

I'm just happy for her. Amazing. This is tips on compromising while living with your boyfriend from Melissa. Oh.

[B]

I suck at compromising.

[A]

I suck at. I think we're the worst people to ask about this because I'm like, you don't. The man just gives in. Or you're, you know, like, that's what it is. But we are actually the two worst people to ask. But can I say I think some relationships are like, okay. That's the other thing too. It's like me and Moses did a hot topic source is us. And I don't like a couple's podcast because then it just, like, allows people to, like, judge your relationship. Where, like, people can say, like, oh, she's this controlling with Moses. But, like, it works in our relationship. Controlling is, like, the wrong word. But, like, I do make, like, a lot of decisions, and he's, like, happy.

[B]

To support and go along because it's the same way.

[A]

Yeah. Because that's like, their personalities.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, but that's fine. Like, there's so many. There's a lot of girls who just want to be, like, told where to go and what to do. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I think if it works for you, it's fine.

[B]

100. And, like, I'm lying. There is a. There is compromise with, like, Makoa. Like, I definitely had to learn more security than I've ever had with anyone. Like, when he wants to go and do his thing, like, I trust him to the fullest. Like, you know what I mean? And, like, that it was a compromise for me. Like, really just being like, go home to Hawaii for, like, two weeks or, like, I guess long distance. But like, anything. Makoa actually is always, like, making me more responsible too. And, like, you know what I mean? That was like, I had to come meet him there. You know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna act like this. I'm gonna be better in these ways, you know? I think it's when you really love someone, it's like you gotta just try to see things from their shoes. You know what I mean? Like, just to see things from their shoes. Like, even just Makoa is like, like I said, like, he'll let all the traffic go. I was talking about this in an episode. Like, he's like, too nice. And sometimes I want to be like, just go right? You know what I mean? But I have to be like, no, but he sees the world differently than I, and he's very patient, and he, like, wants to go the extra mile to be kind to people and, like.

[A]

Like, you learn something from it. Yeah, I should be more like that.

[B]

And, like, usually, whatever you're compromising on, it's like, if you just try to see it from their shoes, there is an answer there.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. And it's like, like you said, when you, like, love someone or respect someone. Like, what Moses, like, he. He does let me do so much and give so much that there's, like, one thing that I'm like, no, I don't want to do it, but it's like, okay, like, also, like, pick your battles. Like, there are certain things, like, with parenting or something like that. It's like, okay, like, I'll let him, like, like this one. If there's, like, a hard stance I have, I'll, like, take it. But I think also, he doesn't ask for much, so when he does ask for stuff, I'm like, absolutely. I think, like, you said, too kind of the compromise of, like, for me, it was like, me not spending money so much. I was like, I'm gonna spend all my money. It's my money. Like, whatever. But then it's like, you have to. Yeah. You see it from their perspective, because.

[B]

It'S like, he just wants the greater good for your household.

[A]

All of us.

[B]

That's always how Makoa and I are. It's like something I don't want to do, but it's like, you're right. You know what I mean?

[A]

The greater. Yeah. Always any big decision we have, we make together. Like, so it's like a misconception we have that I just like, what say? What I say goes. Even coming to New York, all this stuff like that, it's always, like, a decision together. Like, is this the right thing? Are we all going as a family? Are we going separate? Like, I always refer defer to Moses. I'm like, okay. Like, you can make, like, the final decision. Because I think I know what's best. Sometimes I don't.

[B]

It just depends on the topic. Like, sometimes I'm like, no, I know what's best in this situation. But like, sometimes for sure. Yeah. And just little things. I don't know. Even, like, we're going home for Thanksgiving to Vegas, and we're spending, like, 10 days there. And Makoa, like, Makoa likes Vegas, but not the way I do. I don't think anyone likes Vegas the way I do. I love your Vegas, girl. Like, he's cool on, like, two, three, four, five days max, and we're going for 10. And he was like, well, babe, if we're gonna go to Vegas for 10 days, can we do this trip differently? Like, instead of tana Vegas, like, can we do. Essentially, like, we're gonna go to, like. Like, the Hoover Dam? And, like, he wants to do all these things that, like, I don't do at all. And I'm like, that's a major, like, compromise in my head. I'm like, damn it. Okay, I'm going to national Parks. All right, let's do it.

[A]

Like, you might really love it, too. I think. Like, I think you'll love it, especially with McCoy. Like, I think doing stuff with stuff that they love. It does kind of, like, feel like, oh, I'm glad we did that.

[B]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

I think that's, like, the best kind of thing.

[B]

And anything to get my out of the casino, right? He's like, babe, can we not just sit around with the Kaika, the dealer that you love so much, like, with.

[A]

No windows or anything?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I'm so. I'm excited.

[A]

I want to go. I still want the. To go to the Sphere with you. I want to see backstory.

[B]

Wizard of Oz at the Sphere. Was life changing?

[A]

Oh, you saw. Did we talk about this?

[B]

Yes. I don't know if we did, but, like, I just. We have to go.

[A]

Oh, my God. Is it still there? I know.

[B]

Yes, it is. Or we just have to go to the Sphere. I love the Sphere.

[A]

Is it the first thing you saw there?

[B]

No, I saw Postcards from Earth, which also is life changing.

[A]

What is that?

[B]

It is. It's this guy. He's, like, an artist or a photographer or something that I'm definitely up right now. And you see all of these snapshots from all over the world, and it's different, like, buildings and. And animals and landscapes and. But you feel like you're there because the Sphere is so, like, 360, and it was just so beautiful.

[A]

I want to see. I've never been. I want to go to Sphere so bad.

[B]

We have to go to this.

[A]

Okay. We need to maybe, like, over, like.

[B]

And I love when it's an emoji break.

[A]

Yeah. Like, the. Like, this little guy. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you see hotels, or you stay with family hotels?

[B]

For the most part, sometimes. Family. It just depends on what I'm there for.

[A]

How do you get the crazy ex out of your brain? Like, why do they haunt my dreams?

[B]

Oh, my God. That's a hard one. Crazy ex that like that was me for so long. Like, I am like so the type.

[A]

Of person who like to think about a crazy.

[B]

Yes. And just be hung up on something. Thank you. It's okay because it's not Evian. Like, I'm like, I'm turning into Jlo. I'm like, no one look at me. Where's my Evian? Like Jesus Christ. Like Poland Springs will do things.

[A]

Is the vibe out here on the east coast. It really is. Everyone has.

[B]

Has a pollen spring. It's the arrowhead of the east coast. I don't know.

[A]

It's better than arrowhead.

[B]

Well, arrowhead's my favorite water. So that's some of the highest honor.

[A]

The fact that you want avian and arrowheads your favorite is because I like spring water.

[B]

Evian's the highest of the spring water is Poland. Spring, Spring.

[A]

My really good friend Cedric is from Evian France where they like shower and Evian water. Like that's where you get the avian is from his. His.

[B]

I need to go to Avion France. That is so sickening.

[A]

Yeah, they like shower in Evian water. Like their tap water is Evian because that's like where they get it. And he's like, from there and it's like in the mountains of France.

[B]

That is everything. I love spring water. I love spring water specifically because it tastes like you're like licking the mountain kinda Like a lot of people will say spring water tastes like rocks. And I'm like, but I love that.

[A]

Yeah. You want to be there.

[B]

Like purified, like Nestle Pure life or Dasani. Yes. Any purified water. Nasty, nasty, hate. Yeah. Crazy X. I think that. God, this is such a like layered. I have a million different answers. I think that if you know that you're not supposed to be with someone and you choose not to, that's a huge step.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's very important. Right. You know, But I also understand still being hung up on the idea of them or looking back in rose colored glasses or missing certain parts of them. And I think that like it's also okay to take certain pieces of people with you through life. Like we all are the mosaics of the people that we loved. Right. Like, we all like. Like so many of my like favorite things are from people that I like, dated. So many of my like even like personality traits. I don't know. Like we. We all are like made up of all of the people that we've loved in our life in so many ways. And that's okay. You can recognize, like, maybe I'm carrying pieces of this person with me, but, like, I can't be with them. Yeah, that's okay. So. And I think that time also just heals all time.

[A]

I think that's the best. I think I've always been hung up on everyone. My suggestion is not to, like, just go into the next relationship, but it's until I fall more in love with someone else that I'm like, oh, that person. But. But over time, I think, like, yeah, I guess I think about. Really. I haven't been in a lot of relationships, so I'm like, not good when it comes to, like, relationship questions like.

[B]

That I just hung up on a person.

[A]

You know, I'm hung up on it. Like, I was hung up on everyone I would, like, hook up with. I'm like, I love you. Like, I just was like, so. Yeah, me. But. But, yeah, I guess just like, over time.

[B]

Yeah. And I think that, like, real love also makes you see other things. Real healthy love can really make you see other things for like, what they were like, maybe. Oh, I did love that person, but that was so unhealthy healthy. And that was never going to work for me long term.

[A]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Maybe make a list of just the cons so you're not, like, focused on the pros. Be like, this was all the reasons I'm not with this person.

[B]

And that is so true. Because you'll sit there and you'll think about them and like, a funny little thing you miss, and it's like, wait, that person was an extreme love bomber. Or like, that person, like, gaslit the out of me. That person would go so avoidant when, like, they were upset at me. And it's like you forget all those things.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, his laugh, his. Oh, my God, he used to. Then it's like the most bare minimum thing ever. Yeah. Bring me water.

[A]

Oh, my God. Me and every relationship that I was in, I was like. But one time, he made me noodles at midnight. Me.

[B]

No, like, actually genuinely me. Like, one time I sneezed and he said, bless you. And I'm gonna be hung up on this man for a year.

[A]

So much. How do you know when it's the.

[B]

Right time to move on if you're asking that question right?

[A]

Like, oh, I think.

[B]

Yeah, I think. I think that, like, you know, you really know deep down, like, supposed to move on or not. It doesn't always mean you do. Like, you know, I feel like there was so much of my life Where I'd be fighting for something or, like, hanging on to it. But it's like, we know. We know what we need. I don't know. I mean, that's.

[A]

That's actually so true. Because I don't think there was ever a time with Moses where I'm like, maybe this is not what I want. Like, I think maybe, yeah. And maybe it's okay to question it. But. Yeah, if you're thinking, like, when's the time to move on?

[B]

Like, or if you're really romanticizing a life, life without this person or you're. You know what I mean? Like, ideating, romanticizing, like just a different life, I think that that's like a flag for sure. And if something's not serving you, if you don't feel like something is making you your best self, if you don't feel like something is pushing you to your highest potential, like, to your biggest growth, like, if you don't feel like something is the rest of your life too. I feel like people will stay in something for like another year or something. And it's like. Like, yeah, but do you want to be doing this when you're 80?

[A]

Yeah. You know, right? I guess. Yeah. I think that's hard because it's like, oh, I. Cause I don't think I've ever, like, wanted to move on from somebody when I think about it. But then, like, hindsight, you're always like, yeah, so the timing. I don't know. Your answer is probably the best. That is when you. You're.

[B]

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[A]

Right. You know, that is so true. Someone. Someone who's like, for you. Yeah. And someone who, like, you will come along where you're like, I can't imagine, like, my life without this person. Like, mine's the opposite. I saw this on Tik Tok of someone being like, I used to always be so worried, like, my boyfriend was going to be cheating on me, and now I'm worried about him dying. You know?

[B]

It's, like, so true. I saw that, too.

[A]

Like, that's so real. When you're in, like, a healthy relationship, you're like, like, please, just stay alive. I always pray. I'm always like, stay alive. 50 more years for me. Like, please, please.

[B]

I do the same thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I do the same thing. I'm like, it has to be me first.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Morbid.

[A]

Oh, my God. Same it will be, though.

[B]

He's so healthy.

[A]

Can a relationship survive?

[B]

Different religious views.

[A]

There was a political one in there, too who said, like, what if you have different political beliefs? So it kind of goes at the same religion and political.

[B]

I believe. Yes. But I also am the type of person who is very okay with being like, we don't see eye to eye. And that's cool. Like, I'm. I'm very like, yeah. Like, I can. Like, someone else can have completely different views on something, like, religiously or just anything, like, than me. And so long as it's not bleeding into my life. So long as you're not projecting it on me, pushing it on me, trying to change me, or so long as you're not, like, a hateful, like, bigoted, like, awful person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If you just, like, have your own separate views on something and you're still a good person and I like you and morally, and you're not, like, shoving it down my three. You know what I mean? Like, it's. It's all circumstantial for me, but, like, I think there are situations where it can work. But then so many people are not that way. Like, you know, so many people want to be with someone who sees them eye to eye, so.

[A]

Because it would be crazy. I guess it's like, it probably matters more if you, like, plan on having kids, because it would be crazy if you're like, love God or, like, you believe in God or the universe or, like, and then you marry an atheist. Like, and my best friend is an atheist. And, like, obviously, like, yeah, when it comes to friendship, like, do whatever you feel like. Whatever. There's no God. Then, like, I guess I look like or something. But like. But like, if you're, like, raising kids and you're like, okay, let's say prayers. And he's just like, prayer is dumb. Like, you die going to a box. And he said that to my kids, I'd be like, yeah, you know, I.

[B]

Do think that's crazy, but I also feel a type of way about people. I think it's good to be raised in a household with values, but I definitely think I'm going to be the type of parent who does my best to allow their child to form their opinions as they.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Grow up. So it's like, if you are an atheist and I believed in God and we both were raising a kid and we both were like, daddy believes this and mommy believes this and, like, what do you want to do? And it was like. Like, I. I don't know. I could see my. But again, I'm very, like, I'm very too chill almost about that kind of stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm not super, like, I guess, like, religious, so I'm, like, kind of open.

[B]

But if it was like, daddy thinks God is dumb, like, no, like, you know what I mean? Like, you can't shove your different. Like, I don't know.

[A]

But that's the argument, right? Isn't how, like, people win, like, the Jersey movie, God's not dead. No, it's like, it's like this weird, like, Christian movie with, like, Kevin's work.

[B]

Oh, you've told me about this.

[A]

I don't know why I love this movie so much. It's like, you do love this. Yeah. But, like, the end spoiler is like, that's how you win the argument, right? You're like, if Daddy says God is dumb, it's like, okay, well, how can someone be dumb that doesn't exist? You know what I mean? So that means God is real. Basically, the whole point of God's not dead is to prove God is real. And then by the end, he's like, I'm angry with God. He's like, how can you be angry with someone who doesn't exist? And so he wins the argument that God is real.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is like, I don't know. Anyways. No, that's problematic movie with Dean Kane and everything. He's just like.

[B]

I mean, I'm. I'm a firm believer that God is real. So I'm, like, big on that.

[A]

I believe in it. Yeah. Like, maybe it has different names, but definitely there's like a ruler of the universe for sure. If it's the universe itself, if it's.

[B]

Something bigger than nature, it's definitely something bigger than us. But. Yeah, I don't know. I think that that's.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's a very personal thing. At the end of the day, it's like, are you okay with that? And, like, I totally get why someone, like, wouldn't be, you know?

[A]

Yeah. And where you're passionate, I guess. Yeah. If you're really passionate about your religion or your politics, you know, you really. Yeah, like, I'm really passionate about my food. So it's like, if I was with a vegan, like, I could not be with a vegan. Like, I know that sounds like crazy, but, like, I could not because, like, I would feel judged eating my bacon or something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

My bacon. No, but that just depends on the vegan. Like, like, even, like, Kyla, she was my assistant and, like, she's one of my best friends. She always has been. And she is, like, so vegan, it's crazy. But I would be, like, next to her chomping a burger and she was, like, all for it, you know, I never felt judged. She'd, like, get me my burger and be like, that looks good. Like, that's true. You know, it just depends on the. Because there are the vegans that are like, I'm. I just think. Joe, I don't know how you eat that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, it's like this.

[A]

I also think. I also think of people just, like, judging me overall, eating, like, if someone's like. Like, fast food is poison. Like, I couldn't be with you even. Like, I don't eat fast food that much anymore. Like, I. I couldn't because, like, that's what I eat.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So.

[B]

And relationships like that are so. I've been in so many, like. Yeah. Where someone's like, the hierarchy. They're like, that is so.

[A]

Oh, God. The food place for me, like, that's where I draw the line.

[B]

It is just so. I hate that. Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God. The other day, I, like, got a hot dog here and I was, like, screaming over it, like, and I was like, like, spilling it. And, like, I was so excited. And Moa was like. He told me, like, very nicely to, like, calm down. Right. Like, because I'm, like, freaking out. And I was. I was like, don't you ever tell me to calm down over my food. Like, no. Like, actually, yes, because I. I don't know why it, like, triggered me. I was like, I'm so Excited about my food and you're killing my vibe. But he was really just trying to get like mustard down my.

[A]

And now the more I see Makoa, the more I'm like, oh, my God, poor Moa. Like, he's probably just. Cuz he's like literally the softest spoken, chillest person ever. And I was just like, oh, he's so sweet. He's probably just calm down. You're like, don't you ever. But also, I would do that too.

[B]

But that also, like, I know him so well. Like he. He is like, he's got some grit to him and we're like silly and we clown each other and stuff too. He just like takes time to open up, which I love about him. Cuz I like Moses tell a stranger my whole life story. Like we couldn't be more, you know.

[A]

Yeah. You're like, I'm turning into a Karen. And I was like, you know what? The older I get, sometimes I like watch myself. You're not. You're up. I know.

[B]

Like, I'm not. But like, I don't know how to explain it. Like our driver has been like annoying me so much. She's more vocal and I'm like sitting there and I'm having like sit on my hands and be like, don't, don't, don't say anything like you want to be a Karen right now. Just let him ask for the address seven times.

[A]

Let him hold it back.

[B]

He's gonna ask him seventh time and the Bluetooth doesn't work and he's gonna explain it to me head to toe.

[A]

And I'm gonna not. Music in your Uber? Yes.

[B]

You don't. You hate music in the car.

[A]

Oh, my God. We're taking separate Ubers to the store. I would love to know your ox record playlist. Is that what it's called?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't even listen to music.

[B]

What did I listen to on the way here? I was listening to Kanye west actually on the way here.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Problematic for that. But I get sad like when I listen to. Because I'll listen to old Kanye and like, be like, oh, how sad.

[A]

I never listened to him. I don't know. But like, he just like was so.

[B]

Or we thought, I don't know, talented and like, he was so like, I don't know. Maybe that's a different tangent for a different day.

[A]

Oh, final question. What the heck do I get my boyfriend for Christmas?

[B]

God, it's so hard. Shopping for men is so hard. I always I'm always gonna be the girlfriend who. All my gifts are just things I want to see him wear.

[A]

Oh, I love me too, because I'm.

[B]

Just like, I'm a stylist at heart, and I'm like, I want, like, even just changing Mokoa's style over time. I love doing that.

[A]

You saw him yesterday.

[B]

What did he wear yesterday?

[A]

He had a big coat.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

His hat. Like, he just looks. Look so cool.

[B]

Yeah, he looks. He's.

[A]

And I love he.

[B]

Yeah, he's like, he has, like, the build, too. I'm like, you're so built like a model boy that I'm like, put this on. Like, put some on. Like, yeah, I want to see it.

[A]

He looks amazing.

[B]

So I love dressing men, but also, like, go for their interests, you know? Like, as much as I do, like, love to get Mako clothes and stuff. Like, he loves gaming and, like, tech. So I'll, like, find the weird headphones or, like, the. Or just go sentimental too. Like, you know, write him letters and. And that's always a good way to test if your man is a red or a green flag, too. Like, give him a sentimental gift for a holiday and see how he reacts. Like, there was one Christmas where I, like, painted Makoa something, and that was, like, my whole gift to him, and he, like, cried, and he was so sweet about it, and it, like, just, like, reassured me. Like, okay, now I want to continue to get you material things, but, yeah.

[A]

It'S nice to, like, I love doing that. Like, that's what I love doing too. I, like, will write Moses, like, a song or something like that, and, like, do a little video that goes with, like, something I know. And I write, like, a poem or something. And, like, he. He, like, likes it because that's all I know. Like, I can ask him too. Like, you can always ask your boyfriend what he wants, which is, like, fun.

[B]

Like, also so true. Like, men are so simple. Like, just, hey, what do you want for Christmas?

[A]

Moses was like, I'll take a telescope for my birthday. I was like, done and done. But then I'm also like, I'm also gonna write you a poem about how you're the telescope of my life and I see the universe through you.

[B]

That is actually so sweet and poetic.

[A]

Thanks.

[B]

Like, that's.

[A]

Oh, yeah. So I think it's just. Yeah. What you're good at, what you love, your love language, but then also knowing his, you know, and then so true. And then whatever material thing he wants to say, text to me.

[B]

But yeah. And. Or like go through a store with him. I love walking through like a Ross with MOA or like a TJ Maxx and like seeing what he's interested in and then like taking mental notes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know. No, same like he loves polo, Ralph Lauren boxer briefs. I know that now because we walked through the tj so I like went.

[A]

Back and got so, you know, the size and everything. Yeah, that's what you got to do. Go with them through the store.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, you guys. Well, that has been out. Love lying New York edition. We'll be back in LA soon. Hope you guys have a very happy holiday weekend.

[B]

We are headed over to the Patreon. I have a juicy story. I had an interaction in LA with a famous person that I did not.

[A]

Like and I want to hear this right now. We're gonna do it right now. So go to patreon.com notloveline Bye guys. Bye.