Brittany Snow is an Aca-Real One

Summary

Podcast Summary: Not Skinny But Not Fat — “Brittany Snow is an Aca-Real One” (October 28, 2025)
Host: Amanda Hirsch
Guest: Brittany Snow

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Episode Overview

This episode features actress Brittany Snow in a candid, open, and often hilarious conversation with host Amanda Hirsch. The discussion dives deep into Brittany’s recent “year of yes,” her notable acting projects (especially Netflix’s “The Hunting Wives” and Hulu’s “Murdoch: Death in the Family”), her personal evolution in the spotlight, and her candid conversations on mental health and self-acceptance. Fans of Brittany’s work in “Pitch Perfect” and “John Tucker Must Die” will enjoy behind-the-scenes stories, industry insights, and genuine moments of vulnerability and laughter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up & Hollywood Hangs

• Amanda and Brittany recently met at Lukas Gage’s book party ([08:03]):
  • Brittany describes the event as “the most crowded party I’ve ever been to” and admits to only lasting 30 minutes before fleeing due to claustrophobia ([09:47]).
• Brittany’s dog makes an off-screen appearance, as requested by Drew Barrymore ([08:25]).
• Social dynamics in Hollywood:
  • Amanda and Brittany bond over being “pro-margarita” but lament hangovers now hit harder with age ([10:24]).
  • Both reminisce about wild younger days: “I used to go running the next day… Now I am not.” — Brittany, ([11:08])

2. Early 2000s Fame & Perception

• Amanda credits Brittany as a “cool girl” icon of the 2000s ([12:33]), to which Brittany responds:
  • “I never knew that it was a moment. We weren’t aware… I didn’t know I was cool.” ([12:54])
• Struggles with self-worth and imposter syndrome:
  • “It takes a lot for me to be in the moment of, ‘Wow, this has happened…’ I’m always trying to be better, and that’s the perfectionist in me.” — Brittany ([13:56])
• Humility and perspective:
  • Amanda: “It’s cooler to say, ‘No, I don’t know I’m a big deal’ than saying, ‘I know I’m a big deal.’” ([14:23])

3. “The Hunting Wives” & Female Chemistry

• On meeting co-star Malin Akerman and instant friendship:
  • “It was an instant connection… we relate on so many issues and so many topics.” ([16:21])
• On-screen chemistry sparking rumors:
  • Amanda: “All the gay lovers of this show were like, ‘Oh my God!’ thinking [the chemistry] meant something more.” ([17:10])
  • Brittany responds: “The power of a female connection — it can look like you’re in love. I’m totally fine if people think I’m in love with Malin Akerman…” ([17:27])
• The show’s sexual themes as “breaking new ground”:
  • “We were breaking new ground—late 30s, 40s, two women… people were shocked to see it on Netflix.” — Brittany ([18:05])
• Industry “inside baseball”:
  • Brittany shares this is the first time she didn’t have to audition for a part; “I’m not an offer-only gal” but the show’s success “blew the f*ck up” ([20:27], [21:21]).
• SNL parody of “The Hunting Wives”:
  • “I had a body reaction—I just immediately started sweating and laughing so hard.” — Brittany ([22:00])
• Filming Season 2:
  • Brittany teases the group’s “safe environment” and “all women loving each other,” hinting Season 2 might be “sexier” and the schedule is “pretty quick.” ([22:51]-[24:01])
• Funny behind-the-scenes story:
  • Both Brittany and Malin ate so many breath mints before intimate scenes, they got sick. “Women are so mindful of each other… With guys, they sometimes don’t care.” ([24:11])

4. Age, Nudity, and Sexuality in Hollywood

• On nudity at nearly 40:
  • “There’s a stigma… once you reach 40, you’re no longer seen as a sexual being, which is completely false.” ([31:11])
  • Host Amanda: “Stop talking about being almost 40 as it being old, Brittany!” — [31:02]
• Importance of representation:
  • “I love that our show brought new light to that, that you don’t stop having sex when you’re 40. I hope you have more.” — Brittany ([31:27])

5. “Pitch Perfect,” Fandom, and Group Chat Gossip

• Pitch Perfect’s ongoing legacy:
  • Amanda: “Fans are still doing edits. Is that so special?”
  • Brittany: “It’s so special… It’s so cool I’m in one of those movies [like Mean Girls] that people think about like that.” ([33:20]-[33:52])
• Group chat revelation:
  • “We are [friends]. I mean, we have a group chat that keeps going and we are family… It’s called Bellas. It really is that cheesy.” ([34:11])
• Queer subtext:
  • Amanda: “Are you like a mother in the gay community?”
  • Brittany: “I don’t know if I’m mother... Thank you?” ([35:05])

6. Early Career, Vulnerability, and Self-Work

• Child acting & lost confidence:
  • “I was the director, the star, the writer… friends could be the trees… When I became a teenager, confidence went down.” ([38:44]-[38:57])
• Struggles with visibility:
  • “I went through a long time where I kept myself small… I didn’t like being looked at. It was safer.” ([39:08])
  • “I wore everything on my sleeve… so I think I was okay with not having my career be very big because it was safer.” ([39:45])
• Turning point:
  • “When I turned 30, I stopped caring as much and failed a lot… took some time off… new passion, a new acceptance.” ([41:27])
• Letting go of self-sabotage:
  • “I was really in a flow… I’m not going to self-sabotage myself anymore. And then things just started.” ([42:30])

7. Surreal Awards Moments

• Unexpectedly called to present at the Emmys while in the audience:
  • “She turns to me and she says, ‘We have to present, someone dropped out…’ A calm fell over me—I can do this.” ([43:33])
• Writing their own jokes last minute backstage:
  • Brittany details how she and Malin improvised the “I can’t come out… I don’t mind waiting for you to come out” gag ([45:39])
• “No one cares” advice from Patricia Arquette:
  • “Every time that you do that, you need to just say to yourself like, no one cares, everything’s fine. She was like, just sing to yourself.” — Brittany ([47:09])

8. “Murdoch: Death in the Family” and True Crime

• Researching the role of the podcaster:
  • “It was such an honor [to play Mandy]… showing what true journalism can do. She’s got a really specific cool voice—not only physically, but emotionally.” ([53:03])
• True crime obsession:
  • “Last night as I was going to bed, I was watching the BTK killer thing on Netflix. What’s wrong with me?” ([53:35])
• Victim-focused storytelling:
  • “We wanted to give voices to the victims.” ([53:52])

9. Scenes Cut, Directing, and Industry Realities

• Handling disappointment when scenes are cut:
  • “I just more care about my character… I shouldn’t have rested so much on that one scene.” ([57:10], [58:02])
• Directorial debut:
  • “I wrote and directed Parachute… I had to cut so many things. The best performed scene, sometimes. So I don’t take it personally.” ([58:07])
• Cultural shifts and paparazzi spoilers:
  • “Everyone wants to have an opinion before they actually know all the facts… Everything is very quick to judge… It’s an element of control.” ([59:52])

10. Mental Health Advocacy & September Letters

• Why Brittany started the project:
  • “When I was a teenager, I found an article… it was the first aha moment… I realized there’s a name to what I’m doing… Sharing your story… could be the very thing people need.” ([64:23])
• On recovery:
  • “The eating disorder voice is so soft now… That is the marking of how much recovery I have and how proud I am.” ([66:09])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I never knew that it was a moment… I didn’t know I was cool.” — Brittany Snow, ([12:54])
• “The power of a female connection… it can look like you’re in love.” — Brittany Snow, ([17:27])
• “There’s a stigma… once you reach 40, you’re no longer seen as this a sexual being, which is completely false.” — Brittany Snow, ([31:11])
• “We have a group chat that keeps going… It’s called ‘Bellas’. It really is that cheesy.” — Brittany Snow, ([34:18])
• “No one cares, everything’s fine. Whatever—you know, just make up a song.” — Patricia Arquette to Brittany, ([47:43])
• “The eating disorder voice is so soft now… That is the marking of how much recovery I have.” — Brittany Snow, ([66:09])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Meeting at Lukas Gage’s book party / Starting the episode - [08:00]
• Early 2000s fame & pop culture perspective - [12:33]
• Imposter syndrome & humility - [13:56]
• The Hunting Wives, female chemistry, queer representation - [15:02–24:01]
• SNL parody & Season 2 teasers - [21:58–24:01]
• Aging, nudity, and representation - [31:02–31:27]
• Pitch Perfect legacy & group chat - [33:11–34:33]
• Childhood acting & struggles with confidence - [37:37–39:08]
• Letting go of self-sabotage & embracing the ‘year of yes’ - [41:27–42:54]
• Emmys last-minute presenting story - [43:03–47:09]
• “Murdoch: Death in the Family” & true crime - [53:00–54:15]
• September Letters & mental health journey - [64:23–66:41]

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Summary & Takeaways

Amanda Hirsch’s chat with Brittany Snow is both fun and affecting—a journey through stardom, self-doubt, and resilience, with behind-the-scenes industry gems and honest conversations about mental health. Brittany’s self-awareness, candor about growth, and humor make this a must-listen for fans and newcomers alike.

Brittany on vulnerability:
“I went through a long time where I kept myself small because I was scared… But when I turned 30 there was a total shift… I stopped caring as much… I found a new passion for it and new acceptance of starting over.” ([39:08], [41:27])

Final endorsement:
If you love Hollywood gossip, genuine self-reflection, meaningful mental health advocacy, and want to root for real women telling real stories, this episode delivers.

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For more:

• Watch “The Hunting Wives” and “Murdoch: Death in the Family”
• Learn about mental health storytelling at September Letters

(Summary prepared for listeners seeking in-depth insight, honest reflections, and engaging Hollywood chatter.)

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

The following podcast is a Dear media production.

[A]

Welcome back to the Not Skinny but Not Fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking with your best friends in your living room. Hello, hello, hello. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to a new up. No. No episode of Not Skinny but not fat. You guys are. This year of yes has been killing me. No, I'm just kidding. Actually, it hasn't. I'm thriving this year of yes, though. Like, who the helly in this universe makes a New Year's resolution and sticks to it? Like, how random am I that I, like, made this New Year's resolution was like, year of yes. I'm going to start saying yes to more shit, start doing more shit, and then does, like, that's crazy. But yeah, it feels good. I feel like I'm. I'm on a roll I'm more open. And, yeah, had my first live show last week. Like, she's still. She's still on stage, guys, in New York. One night only, it was called. And it was. It was so cool to see everybody and to talk and to gossip and to try, honestly, just, like, be in the same room. It was so special. And the teams wanted to do a tour, like, from the get, and I was like, let me see how I feel after this. Like, it's important to me to see how I feel. Like, did I feel good? Did I feel like I wanted to do more? Did I feel like, you know, it was good? Like, it. Did it make people laugh? Like, yes, it did. So, yeah. So now it's kind of, like, sitting in my feelings about it for a minute, which I love to do, because for a minute. Six years. Six years it took her to get on the stage because, yeah, it's just been a year of yes. And I've been, like, busy and doing things at night and, like, getting glam, which, like, honestly, like, I. It's. I don't love it. I don't love sitting in a chair for three hours. Like, as amazing and talented as the people are and as beautiful as you feel after, I'm like, but I have to sit here for. It's not three hours, actually. It's actually like an hour and a half. It's actually better than getting a mani pedi. Like a Manny and Petty Take me more time, which I know we've had disagreements about. Yeah. I also moderated the Q and A for Regretting you, Colleen Hoover's new adaptation with Allison Williams and Dave Franco. Like, Dave Franco is so adorable. Like, we know. I love Allison. She was on my pod and we vibed, and she's so great and sweet and nice. And Dave Franco, I was like, hey, Dave Franco. He was so cool. I told him that I made his wife, Allison Brie say, but when she did my pod, because that's what happens. There's a moment of silence, and I'm like, but is what I made your wife say when she was on my pod? Just such a cute guy. And this new actor, Mason Thames, like, what an adorable little cutie patootie. And, like, him and Dave have this, like, bromance. It was really incredible to watch. And I just feel like I'm so random. Like, that's just what I feel in my life. I wish you were inside of my head as I'm doing these things and saying, amanda, what the are you doing, you idiot? Anyway, year of yes. Yes. Year of yes. A lot of people are messaging me being like, amanda, we know you're in your moment, you're in your element. But you're also like not talking about season two of Nobody wants this. You guys, do you think I didn't get screeners? Like, hello, like you forget sometimes. Like, I already secretly watched it. I couldn't share it because you didn't get it yet. And of course I'm obsessed. And Aaron is just Aaron Foster, by the way, as some of you know, because I've talked about it before. Is a good friend and she was my first. She doesn't like when I put quotation marks over celebrity, but celebrity guest in my apartment when I had a one bedroom. Both of us are have fear of elevators. I came to get her from downstairs and we both were like having panic attacks together. But it was so sweet. I brought like Pellegrino sparkling water and like snacks. And she was like, isn't it a bod? What are you doing? I'm like, I don't know. I was nervous. Anyway, I love her so much. She's one of the realest people in Hollywood and I'm just so happy she made a hit show that everybody loves that's about Jews and it's back and it's good and the chemistry is there. And yes, you guys, thank you for noticing. Not only is the main character named Noah, but there is a new character named Lenny. Hot rabbi is Noah. New character, one of his friends. Lenny, yeah. Aaron, give credit where credit is due. Anyway, onto today's guest. I've admired this woman forever. She's having such a moment right now. But don't you think for a moment that she didn't have moments before? Because she did. You grew up watching her in Pitch Perfect Hairspray or John Tucker Must Die. She's been in so many movies that defined just like our not childhood or adolescence are growing up. Like she's just part of our cultural history. But what I love about her so much is she's so self deprecating. She's so humble, she's so grounded and she's just such a cool girl. And she was on one of my favorite shows this year, the Hunting Wives. If you listen to my episode with Mala Ackerman, like they're obsessed with each other. They play lovers. Some of us pretended that they might be lovers in real life. We talk about that. She's just so great. Like you're gonna fall in love with her if you don't love her already. Like you're gonna fall in love with her in this interview. So excited that season two of Hunting Waves is filming. And she. She did give some tea about that. She's also in the new show Murdoch Death in the Family, if you guys all know about this case. It's wild. She plays Mandy the podcaster. Talk about that. That's out now on Hulu. She just has so much going on, so much coming up, and she's still so honest and funny. So did I say her name yet?

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

It's Britney Snow. Britney Snow is here, you guys. So enjoy this episode with the lovely Britney Snow. Welcome, Britney Snow.

[B]

I'm so excited to be here.

[A]

I'm so excited to see you again.

[B]

I know us in 24 hours. Here we are.

[A]

I know. So we met last night at Lucas Gage's book party.

[B]

Yes. That was the most crowded party I've ever been to.

[A]

I think like a dive bar, throwback. But I kind of like that. I was like, that's such a vibe that it's like, charlie, come here.

[B]

You can come.

[A]

Yeah, you can take your leash off. She'll feel less like.

[B]

Yeah. Or she can just come over here and she'll just lay here. I'm so sorry, you guys. I had to bring my. My dog, Drew Barrymore requested.

[A]

So lay down. Well, you didn't. You were hesitating.

[B]

No, I definitely didn't want to bring her.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Like, this is going to be distracting.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But then they're. They're not letting me go back to the hotel to get her in between. Um, and Drew Barry specially requested her.

[A]

How did she know it? Like, because you post her?

[B]

I think because I post her and I talk about her. So she was just like, she needs to be on the show.

[A]

She needs to be on the show. She's a star.

[B]

This is her talk show debut.

[A]

Okay, so we met last night at Lucas's book party. How do you know him?

[B]

I think initially we know each other through our friend Becca. And this was a really long time ago, probably like 10 years ago, actually. So he. He was just starting out in a way. I think it was on, like, a YouTube TV show.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I might be wrong about that. Yeah.

[A]

And so you've stayed in touch all these years?

[B]

Stayed in touch all these years. And I'm just so proud of him. I mean, someone who is just so unapologetically themselves. I really admire that. Admire that in this Hollywood world.

[A]

Yeah, that's what was nice about last night. Like, I also don't, like, love, like, I. I events and Stuff I'm like, where do I go? Where? And this was like I knew would be cool and chill. I didn't know like that. Cool and chill.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where it was like a friggin diver. But you just told me you escaped early.

[B]

I was there for 30 minutes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm sort of one of those people that if I get claustrophobic then I am out.

[A]

Yeah, I'm out. Yeah, claustrophobia is hard. So you left early?

[B]

I did.

[A]

Did you have a drink?

[B]

I tried to have a drink. I had like a half of a beer.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I. I was like I'm gonna try. And then it was just so much going on that I was like I can't, I gotta get out of here. But I.

[A]

What's your vibe though? At like do you go out? Do you have drinks?

[B]

I. Yeah, I love like a good margarita and just like a hang with my friends. I'm definitely pro, pro going out. Pro margarita.

[A]

Pro margarita specifically. Yeah, me too. I'm in a margarita era actually. I'm in a like skinny sp. Spicy. Yeah, skinny spicy.

[B]

I'm not on the spicy train, but I can be.

[A]

Which you can't get at a bar like that because you'll literally probably die.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It doesn't taste good there. No, no, no, it wasn't a margarita place. That was a beer place for sure.

[A]

But by the way, I am. We're close in age. I'm 37. I literally swear to God I had one and a half drinks and I woke up like not. Not great.

[B]

Really? This morning.

[A]

This morning, yeah. Isn't that so sad for me?

[B]

I know I've gotten to that point as well. Yeah, It's a really dark time of.

[A]

Like I used to be able to handle it.

[B]

Oh yeah. I used to go running the next day.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Go to work the next day.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Singing like a bird. And now I am not.

[A]

Something happens, something shifts, something.

[B]

I'm glad that it does though because I think those days of mine, I think back and I'm. I'm okay with leaving that in the past.

[A]

Yeah. Like just. There was something though. I think it's more like looking at it like my body was stronger, my mind like what was happening that it could like sustain it all.

[B]

Definitely. I think in the. We didn't have as much response. Well maybe I had responsibilities but I was sort of just going with it, you know, it's the early aughts. Yeah, whatever. I'll wear a tube top every day and show up to work. Like I remember a dark point for me was when I was on American Dreams and I was like 16 or 17 years old and I was being allowed into clubs at the time, which is never a good idea. And it was Halloween and I had to work the next day and I fell asleep in my bumblebee costume and I woke up and just like had all of the glitter still on my body and went into work with like basically still bumblebee.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

And thankfully that's a 17 year old thing to do. But I remember just like running into work full of glitter, just.

[A]

And now like, if you don't have your last ounce of like makeup taken off, like, you can't get in bed.

[B]

Fall asleep with makeup right now, right? It doesn't matter how many margaritas I've had, right? All of it's.

[A]

You're. You're washing your face. It's so crazy. I guess it's a good thing you guys. Brittany Snow is here. We grew up with you. We. I mean, just iconic. Pitch perfect hairspray. John Tucker must die. You were like the epitome of like 2000. Cool girl.

[B]

I don't think cool.

[A]

But there was a moment. There was a. There was a big moment.

[B]

You know, it's funny, I never knew that. That it was a moment. I think also during that time there wasn't social media, obviously, so we weren't aware of or. I wasn't aware of. I didn't know I was cool or seen or.

[A]

You were getting into the club without like, without having to show id.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[A]

That's probably there was some perk.

[B]

I don't know if that's a perk, but it definitely happened.

[A]

So from what you're saying, you didn't realize that you were like part of this like 2000s pop culture DNA vibe?

[B]

Absolutely not. Especially because there were so many other people that were doing so much better than I was in terms of where I wanted my career to be. So I was. I just wanted to be better and I wanted to. To do more serious roles and I wanted to. So I didn't. I wasn't aware that I was in any sort of group.

[A]

It's so crazy how everything is so relative.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How it's like people can look at a person, be like, they have it all, they're doing all this huge shit and then that person can be thinking, I'm not good enough. There's someone else doing bigger shit.

[B]

Oh, definitely. It's so. It's imposter syndrome. I suffer from it very much so even now. I'm always. It takes a lot for me to be like, in the moment of, wow, this has happened. Yeah, look how far I've come. I. Yeah, I'm always trying to. And striving to be better, and that's the perfectionistic in me. But I definitely had that as. As young as a really early on in my childhood, so I always was like that. And I think a lot of people have that.

[A]

Well, I feel like it's. Even though it's hard on you, it's a nice quality to have because it keeps you humble.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it keeps you, like. It's so much cooler to say, no, I don't know. I'm a big deal than saying, like, I know I'm a big deal. You know what I mean?

[B]

And then also people would be like, girl, you were like, kind of like, not really. Like, Lindsay Lohan can be on here and that, you know, that's a different story.

[A]

But. But you know what? It's also, like, longevity. Like, look at this year for you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We got Hunting Wives. We have the Murdoch show coming out today, I think. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Today. You have so many projects coming up. You just presented the Emmys, like, so much. So much cool shit is going on. Let's talk about the Hunting Wives, because I'm a fan.

[B]

Oh, good.

[A]

Huge. I had Madeline on my show.

[B]

I know. I watched that. I mean, I listened to it and I watched it.

[A]

She's amazing.

[B]

Who can just show up with no makeup on and just be the coolest, most gorgeous thing that she's talking to. And she's like, oh, I just rolled out of it.

[A]

No, but she literally did. Like, she wasn't just saying that. Like, she actually.

[B]

I would never in a million years do that. I think I would try to put on makeup. I guess I would be.

[A]

But how words did she look with her, like, wispy hair?

[B]

So that's just so her.

[A]

Did you just meet on. On for Hunting Wives or did you know her before?

[B]

We had met through mutual friends in passing and sort of. It was always told to me that we were the same type of. Not type. Type of person, but that we would get along and we would be on the same plane in terms of, like, what matters and. Oh, no. Sorry. I got distracted. I was like, there's nothing in here. She's gonna freak out.

[A]

Charlie is high maintenance, you guys. You know who's high maintenance? These small dogs.

[B]

She's not.

[A]

A lab would never.

[B]

She's not usually. I. I know. That's like such a stage mom. Thing to say. No, she's really good.

[A]

No, but by the way, remember how we were comparing kids and dogs? So you do that with kids still. You're like, never like this. He's probably missed a nap. Or, like, swear to God, he's usually amazing, but, like, he's crank. He had too much sugar. You're always making excuses for your kids.

[B]

I know.

[A]

So you're there.

[B]

So anyway. Yes. So Malin and I didn't really know each other, but then when we got to Charlotte, we met up, we had dinner, and it was sort of this instant connection. We. We relate on so many issues and so many topics about our childhood and about how we view things. And I was just so grateful that we're just really aligned. And I just think that she's the coolest.

[A]

She is.

[B]

She's just such a badass. And I admire her so much. And I'm just very, very grateful that someone like that is my partner in this, because it could really have gone the other way.

[A]

I mean, she also said about you, like, on my show, she was like, it was a real life love story between me and Brittany. Like, we just, like, love each other. And we thought it was just so we would be like, you're so pretty. You're so pretty. When you were, like, doing the scenes and everything like that, which obviously all the, like, gay lovers of this show were like, oh, my God, like, thinking that meant something more. Like, this show really did something to people.

[B]

I really appreciate that people think it means something else because it really goes to show the power of. When you have a female connection.

[A]

Friendship and good chemistry. Yeah.

[B]

And good chemistry with someone that you admire and respect. It can look like you're in love. I mean. Yeah, I mean. And I'm totally fine if people think I'm in love with Malin Akerman, because I think our friendship does align with that.

[A]

What did you think when you. I know you're getting asked this so much of, like, it was so horny and, like, so sexual and so naughty. And you. I feel like I've seen you kind of say, like, was it that crazy? Like, you didn't feel like it was as crazy as people were, like, not safe for work? Well, obviously not safe for work, but, like.

[B]

Like, I'm not safe for an airplane.

[A]

Right, Right. But were you, like, it wasn't that crazy, guys? Like, it's not.

[B]

I think when I compare it to other TV shows, like Game of Thrones or. Or something where, you know, that's not on Netflix. I didn't Think it was that crazy? I think what was crazy is that we were breaking new ground in terms of I'm in my late 30s, Mala's in her 40s, we're two women. We're doing things that are a little specific, but other than that, I mean, it's not like it went on for 10 minutes, you know, it's not like the Game of Thrones scene where it just keeps going and you're like, can you. Can someone stop this? So I'm. I think that we were just doing things that people were shocked to see on Netflix.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I hope. Yeah, I think we were going for that shock value, though, so that's okay.

[A]

How did you feel like, did you ever play a queer character before?

[B]

No, and I think everyone thinks I have because of John Tucker, Must I? And Pitch Perfect. And I think I always play women who have very strong female friendships and.

[A]

Lack boundaries and are curious, maybe a.

[B]

Little bit curious and are kind of down for whatever. Yeah, I love that about my characters that I played.

[A]

So when you got the script for Hunting Wives, were you like, oh, my God, so down?

[B]

I was. I remember texting my. My agents and managers. Yes, we do text, and that's how I communicate with them.

[A]

Why? What do people think? Like, email?

[B]

I don't know. Like, people are always like, get them on the phone. I'm like, no, I need to send a text message right now.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, No, I don't do phone. I, like, need somebody to call for me. Like, not good on the phone.

[B]

But I remember texting them, being like, I. I have a feeling that this is going to be really good. Really. And let's fight for this. And so why?

[A]

Because you had to audition.

[B]

I was doing Night Agent at the time, which I'm in two episodes and then I die. So it's not like I had this long arc going on, but it was happening right away. And I got the script while I was in Thailand and I remember exactly where I was, overlooking Bangkok, which is so douchey and chic. But I remember thinking, wow, like, this could be my next thing and I'll do whatever. I'll audition for it, I'll do anything. And my agents and managers said, you know, wow, this is gonna sound very pompous, but I had just gotten nominated, not me personally, but a short film that I did got nominated for an Oscar. And so that happened like, the day.

[A]

Before you were in or I was in.

[B]

Yes. And so they said, you know, now is the time that we can maybe use that as maybe you don't have to audition.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So for the first time in my entire career, I think I didn't have doctors.

[A]

It was offer only. I love.

[B]

I'm not an offer only gal.

[A]

I love knowing that inside baseball.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Personally and like the listeners, because again, people's view of the industry is skewed sometimes, you know, and they can assume, like, you get the call. Like. No. Like, actors that are amazing, that everybody knows still have to audition aren't offer only necessarily.

[B]

I mean, maybe, you know, Brad Pitt and Emma Stone and Margot Robbie, they're not auditioning. But I would imagine that most people who are on their way to a different level or they want to try something different. Yeah. You have to fight for it. And I like fighting for it. I like auditioning for it because it makes me believe that everything works out for a reason. I wasn't going to show up on set and have to prove anything to anyone.

[A]

Right. Like, they've seen that you could do it already. Yeah.

[B]

And I'm already in the pocket of I am this person. And you can see something about that.

[A]

So was there more pressure this time because you didn't audition? Were you like, I have to come in and.

[B]

No, I think because I really felt all about that character and. And it was such low stakes. Which is really funny because we read these scripts thinking, this is just fun. No, no one is probably gonna see it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It was originally for stars. No knocking on stars, but a different audience than Netflix or anything like that. So.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We were just like, let's just have fun.

[A]

And then it blew the up. And then you saw snl Cracked me up.

[B]

So funny.

[A]

No, it would.

[B]

You know, I think I. I think I had, like, a body reaction where I just immediately started sweating and I was just laughing so hard. I couldn't believe it.

[A]

Did you see it live or did people start sending it to you?

[B]

I saw it live. I got a little.

[A]

Oh, heads up, Heads up. Okay.

[B]

And I'm very grateful for that. So I got to. It's such a cool moment as an actor that.

[A]

No.

[B]

So strange.

[A]

Crack me up. First of all, like, the way they made Marlon's character's nails, like, literally claws. Oh, my God.

[B]

I didn't even see that.

[A]

Yes. You need to watch it back. Like, these small things. And the way she, like, on. Did the dress, like, had little, like.

[B]

I know Amy Poehler as Malin was.

[A]

So G N S genius. I love it. I love the show. I'm so happy that, like, it did so well and that everybody loved it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then season two has been announced. When it. When are you filming? What's happening?

[B]

We're filming in a couple weeks. And I was saying some. I was saying that to my friend Aaron last night, who was at the party, and she's a journalist, and so she. She does these really cool things where she, in the middle of bars, will ask, what's making you happy right now?

[A]

She'll ask you. Yeah, or anybody.

[B]

Anybody. Or, like, who in your life do you really trust? She's a very big journalist, so I think that's why she. She does things like that. But. And I turned to her and I said, I just can't wait to get back to work, really. It's such a safe environment with all the women. We all love each other, and we're just having so much fun, and there's not one person on that set that doesn't just gel together and.

[A]

Oh, that's amazing.

[B]

Yeah, it's very rare.

[A]

Can you give us any tease, anything about the second season? Do you know? Did you read the script?

[B]

I've only heard things, but I haven't. Nothing substantial or nothing concrete.

[A]

Is it gonna be sexy? Er.

[B]

I think it might be.

[A]

It might be.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you getting ready to get some Listerine strips?

[B]

I know I probably should have hit the gym already. I haven't, and. But Marlon told me. Actually, Marlon's the person who told me that we're getting right back into.

[A]

You're getting right back into it.

[B]

Whatever that means.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

How do you prepare for, like, the sexual scenes? Like, do you take a Listerine strip, some gum, brush your teeth?

[B]

There was so many mints on that set.

[A]

Really?

[B]

We were to the point where we got. Both of us got sick because we, as women. You're so mindful of each other.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

With guys, they sometimes don't care. There's not a mint in their mouth. But with Malin and I, we were constantly like, are you okay? Like, what is that? Can I put my hand here? Do I. You know, can. It was just so nice and so different than we used to watch you get sick. We ate too many mints. No, I'm not kidding.

[A]

Wait, stop. Yeah. What? Like Altoids or something?

[B]

And all these different kind. I mean, it was like the fresh breath, like the ones in, like, the two. Or the tub, the blue tub. I had, like, an entire tub one day when we were doing a wait.

[A]

And you've got, like. Like.

[B]

Yeah. Ill. Yeah, I'm dying.

[A]

Of course. That's women.

[B]

I know. And it's like people pleasing too. She was like, girl, I don't care.

[A]

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[B]

Something really great about Malin, too. I mean, there's so many great things, but she's really, really attuned to what I was thinking or what other people are thinking in terms of comfortability. So she was always very aware that she's more. She's Swedish, so she's more, I don't know, open with her with nudity. Yeah, just a little bit more.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's still a woman and still wants to look good and isn't just walking around naked. But I was very more conscientious about it, and so she'd be like, do you want me to put my body here so you don't have to show this part of yourself? I was like, this is so selfless and nice.

[A]

Yeah. Yes, please. Or how did you. But you. You did. You got nudie.

[B]

I did. I was like, you know What? I'm almost 40. Let's.

[A]

First of all, you look amazing. And stop talking about being almost 40 as it being old. Brittany.

[B]

No, I'm just. I'm just saying that that's very, unfortunately, rare to see women.

[A]

That's wild that you said that. I'm like, really?

[B]

I mean, if you think about it, there's. There's a stigma in Hollywood that once you reach 40, you're no longer seen as this a sexual being, which is completely false. So I love that our show brought new light to that. That you don't stop having sex when you're.

[A]

Yeah, 40.

[B]

I hope you have more.

[A]

Well, you know Kim Kardashian. I believe it was the philosopher Kim Kardashian who said, sex gets better in your 40s. Like, everything gets better. That's what people are saying.

[B]

I'm excited.

[A]

I'm so excited. I'm so excited. And I hope you guys, like, talk to the editors, talk to whoever's, like, in charge, get this out quickly. Like, let's not draw it out. 2027 announcement. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This needs to come quicker.

[B]

I think it. I can't tell you when, but I think it is pretty quick.

[A]

Yeah, like they know. They know what the people want.

[B]

They know that it did well in the time that it did well.

[A]

It went so wild at the end, by the way.

[B]

Yeah, it went off the rails.

[A]

It went off the rail.

[B]

It was like the substance. We were like, wait, what?

[A]

It was.

[B]

Let's just make a monster out of.

[A]

Literally all of a sudden, like phone calls, breathing deaths, like rolling like a full grown man, like down. No, I don't want to give. If you didn't watch. You guys, you guys know I'm obsessed with the hunting waves. If you haven't watched it, obviously, yeah, go re binge it. Because also Britney has so many projects coming out that we need to. That we need to watch.

[B]

And let me just say there's pulling him and he was on a slidey thing. Michael Milligan, who played Kyle, he was on something that slid across the woods and it was still so hard. When you're hearing me like screaming and grunting, that's actually me just thinking, I'm gonna pull out a muscle and wind up in the hospital.

[A]

But he was like on wheels, basically.

[B]

He was on wheels. There's no way a human can do that.

[A]

No. So, so were you like, guys, how's this realistic that she's doing it when he's not on?

[B]

No, at that point.

[A]

Chilling.

[B]

There was no rolling with it. No more asking questions.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. No, I love it. I loved it. Obviously, one of the biggest roles of your career was Pitch Perfect. Amazing. First of all, fans are still doing edits.

[B]

That's so nice.

[A]

Is that like so special?

[B]

It's so special. It's so. I mean, I know that I feel like that about certain films. I was getting ready to come here and I was like, I had an outfit for my stylist and then I just changed into this jacket that my mom Wore in the 80s and I thought to myself, it's like that, that part in Mean Girls where she's like, oh, I love your bracelet. And it's my Mom's from the 80s and it's fucking hideous. I was like, I hope Amanda doesn't think this is fucking hideous.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Anyway, long story short, I think about Mean Girls all the time and. Or movies like that. And it's so cool that, that I'm in one of those movies that people think about like that.

[A]

So what are lines that are said to you most often from the movie Akka Awesome.

[B]

Yeah, Akka awesome or Akka something. What else? Yeah, I'm not sure what people Say, but everyone really wants to know about if we're all friends, but Chloe is real. You know, things like that.

[A]

If you're all friends irl in irl. Yeah. And are you all friends irl?

[B]

We are. I mean, we have a group chat that keeps going and we are family.

[A]

Is it called Pitch Perfect, the group chat?

[B]

I think it's called Bellas.

[A]

Oh, that's cute.

[B]

It really is that cheesy that it's called the Bella. I love that. And we are like a dysfunctional family where, you know, you have your extended cousins and stuff like that, and we're all these different personalities, but we really do show up for each other, which is.

[A]

That is really sweet. Well, I saw, like, Anna Kendrick saying, like, there needs to be something about where Chloe is now and they're together.

[B]

I hope so.

[A]

Well, we were saying before that a lot of your characters have that, like, curiosity. Yeah, yeah. Were people feeling that at the time, or do you feel like it was something that came out, like, later?

[B]

Well, it wasn't written like that necessarily.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Maybe I give off an energy that I'm really appreciative of.

[A]

You think? Are you. Are you like a mother in the gay community?

[B]

I don't know if I'm mother.

[A]

I think Malin's mother, Marlin's mother. Smg. His mother, Michelle Geller, she's mother to me. But you're. You're mother. I think you're like, mother.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Do you get what I mean?

[B]

I mean, yes. Question mark?

[A]

Yes, I think so. I think we're there.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah, but you're saying you gave off, like, it wasn't necessarily written that way, but people. But I'm saying, like, I saw this edit that was like the shower scene, like, just like, looks that you gave each other, you know, where people are feeling that.

[B]

I think it was sort of that archetype of two girls in a shower. And I think Kendrick and I wanted to do more with it.

[A]

Because you call her Kendrick.

[B]

Yeah, because there's another Anna, so I always call her Kendrick.

[A]

You. Or like a cast thing.

[B]

We mostly do, but yeah, I think really Kendrick. I think I started it hardcore.

[A]

It's like Kendrick.

[B]

I think it's so cute.

[A]

Yeah, it is really cute.

[B]

Especially because her and Kendrick Lamar, you don't get them confused.

[A]

You're like witch Kendra. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But I think we were sort of wanting it to be a little more spicy, just to shake it up. And so then it became what it became. But we had no idea that it Would mean so much to people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think that was very surprising. Girls have come up to me and said that that was the moment they realized something about themselves.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And.

[A]

And you're doing it again, by the way, in honey waves. Mother, I love you.

[B]

I am so honored.

[A]

I love that. You need a float at the parade. So would you do. Would you do another Pitch Perfect?

[B]

Oh, definitely.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We all would.

[A]

You all would. We all. What is it? What do we have to do? Who do we have to talk to?

[B]

I mean, it's. I don't know, because I know nothing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I always say that I'm. I'm, like, very Chloe in the way where I don't really know what's going on. I just sort of organize the party. But I. I do feel like we would all do it because we love being together and we want to sing and dance. You get paid to sing and dance?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, how can you complain about that?

[A]

And you're such a good singer. Like, how. I always wonder about people, actors. Like, how do they get three talents? Like, it's not fair, I think. How do you know how to sing and act and dance? Let's say it's like three. You know, it's like a JLO trifecta. Well, yeah, well, J.

[B]

Lo really knows how to do.

[A]

Yeah, J. Lo is like, yeah, she's the. She's on a crazy level, but I'm like, wow. The talent is just like. So when did you find out that you could sing?

[B]

My mom got me into the business when I was a baby, pretty much. And so I was doing commercials and stuff by the time I was, like, three. And so by the time I was six, I was already in singing and dancing and acting classes. And. Yeah, I remember doing, like, little shows and. And things like that. So I don't know if singing. You can sing real well at 6, but I was trying. I was in a vocal training.

[A]

Wait, so when your mom took you at three, was it like, she's such a cute baby, like, she needs to be in commercials?

[B]

Yes. And I always was performing something, so she didn't. It didn't come out of nowhere. Yeah, I. I really enjoyed making everyone sit down and watching me, which is not something that carried on into my adulthood whatsoever. But. But when I was a kid, I really liked putting on performances.

[A]

You mean, like, you had more confidence as a kid?

[B]

Oh, definitely.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I wanted to be the director, the star, the producer, the writer. And then my friends who came over could be like, the trees. Like, they.

[A]

You Mean, like, you're. You're the fucking.

[B]

I'm Snow White. I'm also the prince. I'm all of the characters, all the seven dwarfs, and you can be the tree.

[A]

And that changed like that?

[B]

Oh, definitely.

[A]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[B]

When I became a teenager, got the.

[A]

Confidence went down a little bit.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was no longer. I wanted to be the trees for sure.

[A]

Really? So how did you become who you are today if you wanted to be the trees?

[B]

That's such a good analogy For. For.

[A]

No, wanting to be the trees is hilarious. And I'm obsessed.

[B]

I. I went through a long time where I did keep myself pretty small because I was very scared of a lot of things. I was definitely scared of people's eyes on me or perception. I didn't like to be looked at. And I think over time and being in my 30s, I know that I. I needed to get rid of that in order for me to be able to do things, the things that I wanted to do. So it was necessary.

[A]

Well, it must have been, though, such, like, a conflict because it's like you knew you love this world. You knew you wanted to do it, but there was part of you that's like, fighting it, almost like fighting the attention.

[B]

Definitely. I was very. I'm a very sensitive person. I was a very sensitive kid, specifically in my. In my teenage years and early twenties. And I just. I took everything very. Malin likes to say I wear my heart on my sleeve, and I. I really do. I. I wear everything on my sleeve. And so I think I took everything very heavily. And I. I just. Yeah, I think I was. I was okay with not having my career be very big because it was safer.

[A]

Protect yourself. You know, I just saw. Because Diane Keaton, we lost. We lost an angel that's an icon. So interviews of her have been coming up for me. And she actually said that in an interview back in the day where she said she. They asked her if she has any regrets. And she said one of her regrets is, like, protecting herself too much because if she let herself really get after it. Yeah, I mean, she had a huge career, but, like, I. She probably had some regrets that, you know, she didn't do it all. But she said something so similar to what you're saying, like that she was so concerned with protecting herself, not getting hurt. Like, you know, all these things that maybe she didn't do the most that she could do or, like, everything that could have happened didn't happen because she was.

[B]

I. That's exactly what happened to me. Completely. I think I grew up with very like, performance focused parents in terms of like. And also I became a perfectionist because I thought if I could control the environment, then everyone would be happy and no one would be mad and everyone could look over here, look over here. But I had to be perfect in doing that. So if I wasn't going to be perfect, I didn't want to do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so that kept me from just putting myself out there and messing up and going into auditions and bombing them and I, I kept myself smaller. But I think when I turned 30 and there was like a total shift that happened and I just stopped caring as much and I failed a lot. And I took some time off in my twenties of acting and by the time I got restarted and started again, I did find new passion for it and a new acceptance of being okay with messing up and starting over and things like that.

[A]

And look at this moment that you're having. Like, does that happen by fluke that it's like, boom, this year you're having like such huge, you know, huge roles and, you know what I mean? Like, or is it a planned thing? Does it just so happen that you filmed all this shit and it's coming out the same year?

[B]

I think it's both. I think it's sort of by accident.

[A]

Like, you pick up the phone, the agent, this is my everything.

[B]

I mean, I don't think that necessarily happens. I mean, it could maybe to someone more famous, but I think it just. I was really in a flow. It sounds so cheesy, but I was really in a flow of I know what I'm capable of and I'm not going to get in my own way. I'm not going to self sabotage myself anymore. And I just took that out of the equation and I just got out of my own head and I got out of my own way and then things just started.

[A]

Were you saying yes to more?

[B]

I was saying yes more to taking chances. And I just got less in my head.

[A]

And how do you get it out of your own head when it's like in life and you're just like in spiral mode?

[B]

So we were at the Emmys and Mal and I are in the audience, we're sober, we're just like there for the, you know, ride. We, we have no reinforcements and Molly, no reinforcements in terms of, like, we're just there for the party. And she turns to me and she's on the phone and she says, we have to present someone dropped out, we have to go up there, we have to present in 30 minutes.

[A]

Wait, it was last minute. You're presenting that?

[B]

Yes. The show was already happening, and we just. And I said, you've got to be kidding. This is like a nightmare. And she was like, no. The weirdest thing that's so different for me than how I used to be a calm fell over me. And I thought, oh, I'm. I'm gonna be able to do this. This is cool. I can do this. Now.

[A]

Wait, you're in the audience watching the Emmys. It's like, three hours long. So you're at, like, the hour.

[B]

Hour mark. Yes.

[A]

Somebody comes up to you in the audience and is like.

[B]

Gets a call from her publicist. I'm. My phone's on silent, and so I didn't hear it, but her public, they're calling us. And she picks up, and she turns to me. I thought she was playing a practical joke, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

No, like, we gotta go backstage. We have to present right now. And I'm in a dress that I cannot walk in. I can't even.

[A]

Was it that. The pink dress?

[B]

Yes, but there was no give. Like, not enough.

[A]

Cause you thought you would just be posing on the parquet, on the car, on the carpet, and sitting down.

[B]

So I'm thinking, cool, I'm gonna have to walk out there in front of all these people, in front of Seth Rogen and Tina Fey, and I can't walk, but I go back there. They have nothing written for us, and we're going on, you know, now it's like, 20 minutes. And Patricia comes up to me while we're trying to figure out what to say. And I was like, hi. How are you? And she's so lovely. And she was talking to me. I don't know about something. I'm freaking out. Cause I have to go on in 20 minutes. And I said, are you excited? Are you excited to go home? I said, are you excited to go.

[A]

Home, like, after the Emmy?

[B]

Yes. Like, basically, like, are you excited to just get out of here? Because I can't deal with my dress, and you must be. And she was like, no, I'm really grateful to be here. And she was so lovely about it. And I was like, is wrong with you, Snow? Anyway, so, of course, what the fuck is. I just was like, cool. Tonight's going well. And then I turned to Malin and I said, I got it. We have to make a joke about how I'm. I can't walk out. And it's. It's hard for me to come out. Oh, and she was like, are you sure that's going to land? I was like, yes.

[A]

Like, come out, double.

[B]

I can't come out because I've been taking so long because of my dress. She was like, okay, then I'll say, I don't mind waiting for you to come out.

[A]

I can't believe you guys have to write your own thing in 20. Do people know this? Is this breaking news? Probably breaking. Put it on the bottom. Put it on this girl. That's crazy. So you're coming up. No one's helping you, telling you what to say.

[B]

I even turned to Tina Fey, who will never remember this in a million years. And she's, you know, talking to somebody else. And I said, tina, can we get a. A punch up or any help? And she was like, ah. You know, just. I was like, no, I'm serious. No, you're like, please, please help me.

[A]

No, but because you could have went on and not been funny. Like, that wasn't expected. Like, you didn't have to, like, be funny, but it ended up being funny and you came up with it.

[B]

I just was praying to all of the universe that my dress could make it into a bit so I wouldn't look so stupid walking out there.

[A]

But you know what I think then? Nobody cared about the dress being stupid. What people loved was that fucking double entendre moment, right? And the call out hunting wives. And we would have thought for a million years that that was so planned that obviously both of you were asked to. To present at the Emmys.

[B]

It's just great that Mullen also is so game and she calms me so much. And I think I calm her, too, because she was a little bit more nervous for the first time than I was. And so I was. Yeah, we kind of play off of each other, and we just, like, stood back there and held hands, and we're like, so cute. But anyway, Patricia.

[A]

Patricia. Yeah, Patricia said, grateful to be here.

[B]

So grateful to be here. But then later last night, when we were doing a panel, we were backstage, and I, you know, she's so nice, and I said, I'm so sorry about the Emmys, about me saying, are you excited to leave? You know, that was so stupid of me. Of course you want to be there. It's the Emmys. And she was like, brittany, I can't do her voice, but I wish I could. It's so soft and soothing. She's like, I don't care. I didn't even think about that whatsoever. I don't even remember that. And every Time that you do that, you need to just say to yourself like, no one cares, Everything's fine. She was like, just sing to yourself.

[A]

No one cares. Everything's fine.

[B]

No one's gonna remember that.

[A]

Like, what we spin about is so not what anybody cares about.

[B]

No one cares.

[A]

No one cares. No one cares.

[B]

No one cares. You're a nerd. Everything's fine. Whatever, you know, like, just make up a song. I was like, I'm gonna take that advice.

[A]

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[B]

I think everybody does. Maybe. Except for Patricia Arquette. She's just so cool.

[A]

And you Just worked with her on the Murdoch show.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's amazing. I watched the documentary. Obviously, I'm gonna watch the show. It drops tonight as we're filming this. October 15th, right? It's out already. And you play Mandy, the journalist with the podcast.

[B]

I do.

[A]

How'd it feel to be a pod. A fake podcast host? I know.

[B]

So great. I love her. We've become friends, and it's such an honor because she plays such an integral part of not only the story, but about the case and breaking the case, and it really shows what true journalism can do. And it was cool because I've never played a real life person before, so I really wanted to personify and encapsulate the essence of her. And she's got a really specific cool voice, not only physically, but emotionally. And so I think that all of those things were a challenge for me that I. I enjoyed.

[A]

Are you a murder mystery gal? Oh, you are?

[B]

I really am, yeah. So much so that, like last night as I was going to bed, I was watching the BTK killer thing on Netflix.

[A]

Oh, I'm not in my.

[B]

As I'm drifting off to sleep, like, what's wrong with me?

[A]

I mean, it's like, literally sleeping pill to you.

[B]

But I think the great thing about the Murdoch murders, death in the family that I'm in, we really were victim focused more than anything, and we didn't want to give as much of a voice to Alec for all of his bad deeds, but we wanted to give voices to the victims who were reduced so many times to headlines and just names. And we wanted to show, through acting and performances what their life was really like and their relationships.

[A]

I love that. I'm so excited to watch it. Is it a. Is it all out? Is it one by one?

[B]

The first three episodes are out now, and then it's sort of one episode after that.

[A]

And what was it like working with Patricia Arquette?

[B]

Well, we're not in any scenes.

[A]

Oh, you're not?

[B]

No, because I'm reporting on her.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I'm not. So it was a very interesting experience to be a reporter on a story because I did sort of feel ostracized from the story, not right from, like.

[A]

The family and everything that was going on.

[B]

That was good. It was a part of what really happened. So.

[A]

And were you in it, like, when everything came out?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Were you watching everything and so you were ready?

[B]

I was familiar with Mandy's podcast, really? Her voice, the whole thing. I knew all about the case.

[A]

When this opportunity came in, you were.

[B]

Like, oh, yeah, I was really ready. I was filming another show at the time here in New York called the Beast in Me that's also coming out. And I was like, this has to be my next thing. I will do anything because I already know so much about the kids.

[A]

So what did you do? How did you. How was it offer only?

[B]

Was it audition for the second time?

[A]

See, you're one of those girls, you're like, no, I have. You're getting it.

[B]

Maybe she's offer only, but I had a meeting with Aaron Lee Carr and Michael D. Fuller. Yes, they have middle names that they like to say, but they were just so incredible and I was such big fans of them. And we had the best meeting because I just kept spitting facts about the case.

[A]

No, that's amazing. Like, what's better than that? Like, you know, everything. You're an amazing actress. Like, done fucking deal.

[B]

I hope so.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And I'm not in it as much as I. A lot of my part got cut, and I know that it was because I'm sort of a siloed story because it really needs to be about the actual case and what happened. But I was just so grateful to be a part of it. I mean, truly, it's a show that I would watch, and so that's always a marking of something I want to do.

[A]

So when things get cut. Because they get cut all the time in the industry, right? Oh, yeah. Does it. What does that feel like? Like, is it because you're. You sound like you're so positive about it.

[B]

And there was a scene in Hunting Wives that I was really upset that got cut because it sort of made sense why my behavior was so weird on the show. I read all eight episodes at once. And there's a scene that I. That I read in episode eight where she has this complete panic attack breakdown. Sophie's character. And it's. She starts hitting herself and hitting her hand on the steering wheel and crying and screams. And then she goes right into stoicism and just becomes completely void and gets out of the car. And I remember thinking, oh, that's how she reacts to problems. She's become so used to being a mother and a woman that will only have breakdowns in her car. So I thought, well, that's how I'm going to play her character. Just like, sort of.

[A]

Yeah. And then.

[B]

But when you take that scene out, it just looks like I'm completely dumb.

[A]

Well, no, but now that you're saying that, it's like, even when she gets arrested, it's like, you're accused of a murder. You're like. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're pretty. Okay. You handle it. You're like, I'm gonna prove to them that it wasn't me.

[B]

But yeah.

[A]

You're, like, stoic and.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you're saying that that car scene would have made sense.

[B]

I loved that car scene.

[A]

Did you ask about it? Like, were you. Why didn't.

[B]

I told Rebecca? I was like, that makes. Why I'm so.

[A]

So why is it so important? Why can't they put in those.

[B]

They said the episode was too long. But anyway, I. They promised me that it'll. In season two, it'll make more sense.

[A]

Like, you care about Sophie. You need. You need her to, like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Need there to be.

[B]

I care about. I care about the fact that she had coping mechanisms that I wanted to work into the character. And, you know, I shouldn't have probably rest and looking back, I probably shouldn't have rested so much on that one scene.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I've been on the other side of that when I directed and wrote a movie called Parachute that you can rent.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I had to cut so many things.

[A]

Where do we rent it? Anywhere.

[B]

I think it's on Peacock. You can itunes it. It's.

[A]

How is it directing so great?

[B]

It's one of my favorite things.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That I want to do again. I loved it. It was such a great different part of my brain that I was able to gain confidence using. But going back to the cutting of it all, I know exactly why people cut things in movies. I had to do that so many times in the movie with the best performed scene sometimes. So I don't take it personally.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just more care about my character.

[A]

Right. It's so interesting. People could get entire. Their entire role cut out. Yeah. Which I feel like has started to be reported on. And I kind of don't like that for the actors. Right. Like, I posted something about it because there was this actor. He was actually in the. In the Murderers show, the Nicholas Chavez who played the Menendez brother. And I think it came out like, his role entirely cut from, like, some movie. And I'm like, can we not? Because, like, it just feels kind of. Would he want people to know that, like, he worked? So it just. People are getting upset about a lot of things that have become. Things have become like, fair game. That. And also, what do you think of. We're seeing now so much paparazzi of things filming. So what do you think of that? Like, people are. Are disappointed. Like, let's say Devil Wears Prada too is filming. Right. So we see all the guest stars because they're filmed in New York. Like. Like we talked about when you kind of started out. No social media. We wouldn't know until came out. So how do you feel about that? Because you've been around for a while that we like get the tea kind of before or sneak peeks or just know too much about what's going on.

[B]

I think it sort of is also a part of this like huge other problem where everyone wants to have an opinion before they actually know all the facts. And they're formulating an opinion way before they have all of the knowledge of what's really going on. And I think that's happening with. With albums or with movies. You know, you just are quick. Everything is very quick to judge, quick to. I don't like it. I quick to be like, she looked weird in that interview. She must be a bitch. And I think that's the same thing with movies too is unfortunately now there's so much content and there's so much happening that people like to. It's an element of control. Right. You're like, well, now I don't have to think about that anymore because I saw the behind the scenes footage and I'm not gonna see the movie. And it's living in the like, I don't know, it kind of looks. Whatever. Maybe I'll see it in a year from now or not is. Is harder, which is a shame.

[A]

I know things have gotten. It's like I love breaking the fourth wall. And like I told you, knowing a little bit of like behind the scenes. But again, something about let us like watch the movie, you know, let us not know what's happening in with Carrie Bradshaw and sex. Like imagine we saw like her and Aiden. What did you think of him? Just like that. Like, were you on the hate train?

[B]

I wasn't. I watched. Well, this is all I will say. I only watched the first season.

[A]

Take what you will.

[B]

And I love, by the way, Rita Sarita is a friend of mine and so I wanted to support her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I love Sex in the City so much. I've seen every single episode. And so I wanted to honor.

[A]

I feel like that's what they wanted to do as well with ending it. You know what's been the biggest so far? And I will say so far because it's just the beginning. Pinch me moment of your career.

[B]

I mean, the SNL was definitely one of them.

[A]

Yeah. You know what's gonna be next Hosting babe.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Would you die?

[B]

I would die and I would be so ready.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Put me in, coach.

[A]

I love put me in, coach.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I feel like I've been training. I feel like mentally you're like, I.

[A]

Could also be the musical guest. I could.

[B]

Absolutely not. And also people who do both. I am, you know. Wow, that is two different brains at the same time. Doing a show. I would like to really just focus on the cue cards. I think that's the hardest part about it, is the changing of the cue cards.

[A]

Well, yeah, I went to see it one time and I was such a nerd because again, I love the, like, behind the scenes stuff that I just couldn't stop. Like watching the sets change and everything that's happening to make this all happen was insane.

[B]

It really is insane.

[A]

And then like, I was just watching Pete Davidson, like, backstage stage, because you see the backstage, I was like, oh, I gotta, you know, and it's, it's.

[B]

All so much smaller than you think it is. Which I do think probably helps the hostinger performances because you, you sort of have to not pretend that you're not doing it live to the whole world.

[A]

I feel like it's gonna happen this year. You're turning 40 this year.

[B]

I am, yeah.

[A]

That's so exciting.

[B]

It is really exciting. I'm ready.

[A]

You are. Because you've been saying, I mean, you did say a few times in this interview and I completely agree with you how there was something about turning 30 that shifted something.

[B]

Oh, definitely.

[A]

That's why I say to people too, I'm like, aging is great.

[B]

I know. And I think it's so. I remember seeing interviews with different actresses that I admire. I remember Amy Adams did an interview that I love where she was Talking about her 30s is really where she came into herself. And I was like, oh, I. I hope that happens to me. And so it seems cliche, but it did. It did really happen to me in my 30s and I think I just stopped, like, self destructing. I don't know. In my 20s, I was just. No one was paying attention because everyone was paying attention to Lindsay Lohan. But I was a mess, like.

[A]

But was it a mess, like in the same way, like, partying? It was more emotionally emotional behind closed doors.

[B]

Everything with me was always behind closed doors. Yeah. Because I wanted to look perfect. So it was, it was. But I'm so glad that it was like that because I got to come out the other side, take two years off of acting. And by the time I was 26, 27. I was like, okay, I know myself. Now I'm ready.

[A]

And that's kind of happy that it happened when you were younger and you've been open about that. You also have a mental health foundation or September Letters, right? So can you tell me a little bit about that?

[B]

Yeah. I started September Letters because I. When I was a teenager, I found a. An article in a magazine about a girl who had an eating disorder, and it was in a fitness magazine. So I was looking for, like, the newest AB trend and what I should be eating that day. And here was this girl talking about the same things that I was doing with food. And it was in a written word, and it was the first aha moment that I've ever had where I realized, oh, my God, there's a name to what I'm doing, and I don't feel crazy. So I carried around that article in my back pocket as a symbol to me that there's hope and we're connected in somehow this woman in me that I don't know. And then many years later, I did an article for People magazine where I talked about how that article changed my life and how I was beginning my recovery process and just about eating disorders in general. And at that time, no one was talking about them. And I went to a coffee shop after the article came out, and a girl was in front of me, and she turned around, she started crying, and she pulled out my People magazine article from her back pocket, and she said this was the article that was helping her, you know, save her life. And.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

So I. I thought, wow, I really have to do something with this idea that sharing your story in an article or telling someone about yourself or a stranger could be the very thing that people need to hear to get better. So September Letters is a mental health website and platform and community of people just sharing their truth and things they've been through and helping each other out.

[A]

Can anybody contribute on there? Oh, wow. I love that. Well, thank you so much for being open about that. Like, in your career about mental health issues, how do you feel now? Like, do you ever fully heal from that?

[B]

I do. I don't know if your brain ever goes back to someone who hasn't had an eating disorder or depression or anxiety, but I do have so many tools now in my. My toolkit or in my brain that it's the voice. The eating disorder voice is so soft now.

[A]

Oh, okay, good.

[B]

And so that is, you know, the marking of how much recovery I have and how proud I am of myself being because it used to be very loud, deafening. Like, couldn't go to an event because I felt so fat and ugly.

[A]

Oh, my God. And now I hope you feel beautiful.

[B]

I love going to events. They're so fun. Yeah.

[A]

I love this for you. I love this era. I feel like 40s are gonna be everything that Kim Kardashian says. Thank you, Kim Kardashian, for that and thank you for coming on.

[B]

Thank you guys.

[A]

It was so fun to meet you.

[B]

Yeah, it was really fun.

[A]

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[B]

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