Whitney Leavitt: Will MomTok Survive This? - Not Skinny But Not Fat

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Podcast Summary: "Whitney Leavitt: Will MomTok Survive This?"

Not Skinny But Not Fat hosted by Amanda Hirsch, released on June 10, 2025, delves deep into the tumultuous journey of Whitney Leavitt, a prominent figure from the reality series Mormon Wives. In this engaging episode, Amanda interviews Whitney to explore her experiences both on and off the show, shedding light on personal challenges, on-screen drama, and the intricate dynamics within the MomTok community.

1. Postpartum Challenges and Weight Management

Whitney opens up about her postpartum journey, highlighting the struggles of managing weight after childbirth. Discussing her previous use of Ozempic, Whitney shares her adverse experiences, "I did Ozempic after my second, and I was so sick on it. I had diarrhea. I was throwing up all the time" (06:09). She contrasts this with her current approach of counting macros, emphasizing a more sustainable and healthier method: "I've been counting my macros, and I love it" (07:35). Amanda relates by sharing her own postpartum weight loss story, fostering a sense of camaraderie and understanding between the two hosts.

2. Filming the Show Amidst Postpartum Recovery

Whitney discusses the challenges of filming reality TV while recovering postpartum. Balancing motherhood and the demands of being on camera, she admits, "I was doing whatever needed to be done" (35:08). The lack of sleep and the constant pressure to perform took a toll on her, yet she managed to maintain her composure to protect her family. Whitney reflects on her dedication, combating the anxiety of public perception: "I'm so happy I didn’t go with, like, everything that's happening right now" (55:28).

3. Navigating Relationships and On-Screen Drama

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the intricate relationships within Mormon Wives and the broader MomTok community. Whitney candidly addresses her strained relationship with Michaela and the fallout from unfollowing her on social media: "I don't care. I love her. And how can you have relationships with some. I mean, naturally you're going to gravitate towards people in a workplace" (26:35). She also touches upon the complexities of friendship amidst public scrutiny, stating, "We create entertainment together. You are my friend. I will be vulnerable with you" (26:44).

Whitney delves into specific conflicts, such as the infamous vote-scandal involving Taylor and Demi. She expresses her frustration and confusion over the show's portrayal of events: "There's so much more to that story that just wasn't shown" (08:56). Whitney emphasizes the importance of understanding the full context behind on-screen actions, urging listeners to "give people grace and understand that, one, you never really know what someone's going through" (18:59).

4. Mental Health and Coping Mechanisms

Addressing mental health, Whitney discusses her use of ketamine therapy as a coping mechanism for the stress and anxiety stemming from her reality TV experience. She describes the procedure and her mixed feelings about it: "I've only done it once, and it was a lot. I hated it. I'll never do it again" (49:28). Despite the challenges, Whitney acknowledges the importance of seeking professional help: "It's breastfeeding friendly no sketchy ingredients, no gimmicks, and obviously it's drug free" (25:21).

Amanda and Whitney also converse about the pressures of maintaining mental well-being while being in the public eye, emphasizing the necessity of support systems. Whitney commends her husband, Connor, for his unwavering support: "He just supports me like no other" (36:37).

5. Audience Reception and Social Media Impact

Whitney reflects on the fluctuating public perception and the impact of social media on her reputation. She acknowledges the initial negativity but remains hopeful for redemption: "I try to not... I don't know. I'm like, we'll see how long it lasts" (33:20). Whitney shares her strategy for managing online backlash by limiting her interaction with negative comments, focusing instead on positive feedback during the initial phase of content release: "And then I don't look at them anymore" (33:48).

Discussing the broader MomTok community, Whitney emphasizes the importance of viewing situations from multiple perspectives: "Just know there's always two sides to the story" (19:31). She urges listeners to approach viral moments with empathy and understanding, recognizing that reality TV often only showcases a fraction of the entire narrative.

6. Future Plans and Industry Aspirations

Looking ahead, Whitney expresses her aspirations beyond reality TV, eyeing opportunities in acting and hosting. She mentions receiving interest in scripts and auditions, indicating her desire to diversify her career: "I've had some really cool scripts come across my desk" (58:55). Additionally, Whitney teases potential developments in MomTok's third season, hinting at more behind-the-scenes insights and perhaps a continuation of breaking the fourth wall: "It's gonna be different than any season and then one and two" (57:56).

Whitney also reflects on her personal growth and lessons learned from her reality TV stint, suggesting a newfound resilience and a clearer sense of self: "I realized how hard that conversation was for me before, like, how much. How scared I was even going in it" (14:28).

7. Personal Life and Support Systems

The episode concludes with Whitney sharing insights into her personal life, particularly her relationship with her husband, Connor. Celebrating their nearly nine-year-long marriage, she highlights his role as her rock through the ups and downs of reality TV: "He was the only one" (37:27). Their dynamic showcases a partnership built on mutual support and understanding, essential for navigating the challenges of public life and motherhood.

Whitney candidly discusses the logistics of balancing her career and family, including managing three children and the need for additional support: "I do think it's time for some extra help" (36:20). This honesty provides listeners with a relatable glimpse into the sacrifices and adjustments required to maintain personal well-being amidst professional demands.

Key Takeaways and Conclusions

Authenticity Amidst Reality TV: Whitney underscores the importance of remaining true to oneself despite the often manipulated narratives of reality television. Her commitment to authenticity serves as a counterbalance to the sensationalism prevalent in the genre.
Resilience Through Personal Struggles: Navigating postpartum challenges, managing public scrutiny, and handling interpersonal conflicts have fortified Whitney's resilience, allowing her to approach future endeavors with a strengthened sense of self.
The Complexity of Friendships in Public Spaces: The episode highlights the delicate balance of maintaining friendships within the high-pressure environment of reality TV, emphasizing the need for understanding and empathy.
Mental Health as a Priority: Whitney's openness about her mental health journey, including her experiences with ketamine therapy, advocates for the importance of seeking professional help and fostering strong support systems.
Future Endeavors and Growth: Eyeing opportunities in acting and potentially reshaping the dynamics of MomTok, Whitney remains optimistic about her future, illustrating a proactive approach to personal and professional growth.

Notable Quotes:

Whitney on Ozempic's side effects:
- "I was so sick on it. I had diarrhea. I was throwing up all the time" (06:09)
Whitney on understanding different perspectives:
- "Just know there's always two sides to the story" (19:31)
Whitney on her husband's support:
- "He just supports me like no other" (36:37)
Whitney on planning for MomTok Season Three:
- "It's gonna be different than any season and then one and two" (57:56)

This episode of Not Skinny But Not Fat offers a candid and comprehensive look into Whitney Leavitt's life, both within the reality TV framework and her personal experiences. Amanda Hirsch facilitates a heartfelt conversation that not only entertains but also provides valuable insights into the complexities of fame, friendship, and personal growth.

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[00:00]
Whitney Levitt
The following podcast is a Dear Media production.
[00:04]
Amanda Hirsch
Welcome back to the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. You guys, I'm so freaking tired. Like, as I'm recording this right now, now it's. I feel like some people would go to the doctor, you know, like, some people would be like, I have brain fog. I have, like, all the things. I'm just sliving through it. I'm slimming through it. And I can say, like, I have a newborn, which is a year old, so I don't know if you can say that. I can say that I, like, just had a baby. I don't know if you can say that after a year. When can you. When do you have to stop saying I just had a baby? Love to say just. But when. When do I, you know, when do I legally have to stop is more my question. Anyway, I'm so t. And it's just interesting. It's like, why does coffee help? I've been having, like, a second coffee recently. Have you ever gotten anxiety by influence? Like, influence anxiety? Because, like, let's say for me, like, coffee doesn't actually make me anxious, but because yesterday I had a second coffee and somebody I was around, like, somebody that was producing my podcast that day for engineering, it said, like, oh, you're drinking coffee. Like, I can't have coffee at all. Like, it gives me an immediate panic attack. So all of a sudden, I, who drink coffee every day, I'm like, oh, my God. I start, like, getting in my head about it and trying to, like, literally steal his anxiety. Do you guys do this? Like, oh, my God, if he is gets panic attacks from drinking coffee, like, maybe I am. Maybe I do. Maybe I am right now. Maybe I should be. Maybe that's what you know. And it's just like, no, live your life, you weirdo. Anyway, how are you guys on this Tuesday? We have a really. A really fun episode today, you guys. Really fun episode today. As you know, the secret lives of Mormon wives have taken over our lives. I just actually recommended somebody. Claire Holt asked me. She was like, what show should I watch? Should I watch Summer House? Should I watch this? I was like. I just knew. I was like, no, no. Start Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Like, from the beginning. You're gonna love it. And I think it's one of Those unexpected, like you think you're going into one thing, it ends up being another thing, you know, and it's just such good reality tv. These women give us a lot to work with. So today, Whitney Levitt, the villain of season one of Mormon Wives, slash maybe a little bit villain in season two, but also just, just a girl with 3k days postpartum, which is nutso. So she's here in studio and listen, you gotta give her the fact that this is just real. Like she just doesn't give a. She says it how it is. She's all about the views and the likes and the engagement and she'll do anything it takes to come up on your fyp. Okay, so enjoy my conversation with Whitney Levitt. Wait, you guys, I almost forgot to tell you. I know this is a long overdue, surprising, shocking, yet like, you should have done this already. What's wrong with you? Announcement. Okay, I am. Wait. Drumroll. Drum roll. Wait. I am going to do my first ever live show. I know, I know it's freaking crazy, but it's happen. It's for now a one night only event. It's going to be in New York at the gramercy theater on October 22nd. Pre sale actually starts tomorrow at 10am for you guys. For my listeners, you get in on the pre sale with the code nsbnf. So the link is going to be like a Ticketmaster link which I'll post tomorrow. You can find it on Ticketmaster, I think. So you can go there and find my show code is NSBNF. Like I said, pre sale opens at 10am tomorrow. General sale goes on Friday. And again, my first live show, you guys, it's in New York on October 22, so we have time to get excited. It's going to be so fun. We're just gonna have so much fun. I've. I've wanted for so long to be in the same room as you guys and I just wanted to figure out how best is to do it. And I was like, instead of taking seven years to figure it out, just freaking do it. And it's gonna be so good. And I've been dying to tell you and I'm just so excited to see you. I'm so excited to laugh with you. So mark your calendars, set your alarm, sex your friends and get tickets. Tomorrow's a pre sale Friday general sale. And this is going to be so fun, you guys. Love you. Anyway, so enjoy my episode with Whitney Levitt. I know that I fucking did.
[05:17]
Whitney Levitt
Hey girl.
[05:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Whitney.
[05:20]
Whitney Levitt
Amanda.
[05:20]
Amanda Hirsch
Well, no first of all, like, I need to say it again on the mic. How fucking amazing. You love it.
[05:25]
Whitney Levitt
Thank you so much.
[05:26]
Amanda Hirsch
Much. How does it feel like, watching yourself postpartum? Like, what do you mean, postpartum? Post dizzle partum.
[05:33]
Whitney Levitt
Thank you.
[05:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, a day after. And obviously you looked great then, but it might feel so different now to, like, not be a day after giving birth.
[05:41]
Whitney Levitt
Yes. Well, after my second, I did Ozempic, but I'm not doing Ozempy this time.
[05:46]
Amanda Hirsch
Do people not believe you?
[05:47]
Whitney Levitt
They don't believe me. And I'm like, you guys, I promise you, I'm counting macros this time.
[05:51]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[05:51]
Whitney Levitt
But I did do it after my second, and I was so sick on it. I had diarrhea. I was throwing up all the time. Like, I don't know how the girl is.
[05:58]
Amanda Hirsch
I believe it because you hear so many stories. Like, it's when I had opinions on it. I regret it now. I used to be very harsh. Like, when it just came out, I would be like, it's only for people with that.
[06:09]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[06:10]
Amanda Hirsch
Now I get it. Like, if you want to take it, take it. But I've heard personally from people I know that, like, God, some, like, infection has to stop taking it. Throwing up all the time. Dark. So I think, like, taking it is, like, brave in and of itself because you. You get. There are side effects. They're like, legit side effects.
[06:29]
Whitney Levitt
There are side effects. The things we do to be skinny.
[06:31]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. But it really is interesting because I. I'm also postpartum.
[06:35]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[06:36]
Amanda Hirsch
And I started working with a nutritionist, and it was so funny because one day I go to my husband, like, and I got on the scale, and I, like, started losing some weight finally. It was really hard.
[06:44]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[06:44]
Amanda Hirsch
And I go, oh, my God. Like, I lost six pounds, like, blah, blah. And he was like, that's so great. And he's so supportive, and he's happy for me. That, like, that makes me happy. And then I was like, oh, my God, I hope people don't think I'm, like, on Ozempic. And immediately he goes to me like, okay, calm down. Like, you lost six pounds.
[06:57]
Whitney Levitt
Like, first of all, six pounds is a lot.
[07:00]
Amanda Hirsch
No, it is a lot.
[07:00]
Whitney Levitt
Congrats.
[07:01]
Amanda Hirsch
It is. But. But he was just like, calm down. Nobody's, like, thinking you lost £100 overnight and that you. But that there is something about that where, like, now you can't even lose baby weight or do it the healthy way without people not. Not judging. Ozempic. She took us back. I'm, like, scared of the haters. I know, but without. So you're saying you're open about it? You're opening. You're open about taking it after the second kid, but this time, no, because.
[07:27]
Whitney Levitt
I was so sick on it, I refused to do it again.
[07:29]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[07:29]
Whitney Levitt
And then when I got off of it, I gained all of that weight back, so I was like, it's just not worth it. I need to figure out something for the long haul.
[07:35]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[07:35]
Whitney Levitt
Which is counting. I've been counting my macros, and I love it.
[07:38]
Amanda Hirsch
It's a lot. So the macros means the protein, the.
[07:41]
Whitney Levitt
Fats, and the carbs.
[07:42]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[07:43]
Whitney Levitt
Yep. It's a lot.
[07:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[07:44]
Whitney Levitt
I enjoy it.
[07:45]
Amanda Hirsch
Good for you.
[07:46]
Whitney Levitt
Thank you.
[07:47]
Amanda Hirsch
Good for you.
[07:47]
Whitney Levitt
Thanks.
[07:48]
Amanda Hirsch
How was it filming? So was it literally three days? Like, how many days?
[07:52]
Whitney Levitt
No, it literally was. It was a lot. But honestly, like, blessing in disguise because I think it mellowed me out a bit because I. Like, I wasn't sleeping. I mean. Yeah. You know, I'm not sleeping.
[08:02]
Amanda Hirsch
So what mellowed you out?
[08:03]
Whitney Levitt
Like, just my personality. Oh, you mean, like, you were sleeping?
[08:08]
Amanda Hirsch
We were like, chiller on the show this season. Okay, yeah, I see what it was. I mean, now I'm getting flashbacks. You're literally on a poll. So I don't know, like, how.
[08:15]
Whitney Levitt
How, like, chill, I guess. I mean, more so, like, in confrontation. Like, I kind of was just like, wait, remind me what we're talking about again.
[08:24]
Amanda Hirsch
I'm still riding for you. But I was riding and I was like, you're doing so good. You're doing so good, sweetie. You're doing amazing, sweetie. And then you turned at the end.
[08:33]
Whitney Levitt
Oh. With the whole Taylor thing.
[08:35]
Amanda Hirsch
You were so sweet with Jen.
[08:37]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[08:37]
Amanda Hirsch
Like. And really, it was so nice to see, like, a real friendship for a second, you know? Cause there's so much. I mean, Macy said it too. It's like you're scared to say something. Someone will use it against you. I feel like with Jen, it was so genuine. You wouldn't talk shit about her. You didn't get. You didn't tell everybody what happened? Like, just the pregnancy part. Then all of a sudden, you turned.
[08:56]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[08:57]
Amanda Hirsch
You turned on Taylor. And I don't understand why. Let's have.
[08:59]
Whitney Levitt
In the end, there's so much more. You have to understand. When we're filming scenes, it's, like, hours long. And then when you watch the show, it's minutes. So there's so much more context. There's so much more that went into that story that just wasn't shown. So you'll never know. But there's just know that there's more to that. Like, I wasn't just like, okay, so many more.
[09:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Can you tell us what. Okay, no, two things. Oh, you can wait. No, there are two things. Yeah, there is the dinner.
[09:26]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[09:26]
Amanda Hirsch
When you sat down, all of a sudden you were like, well, the heat's off me, so let me bring up Jesse and Demi.
[09:31]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. Loved that.
[09:32]
Amanda Hirsch
You love that.
[09:33]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[09:33]
Amanda Hirsch
Why the heat on? Nobody wasn't on you, so why not enjoy that for a second?
[09:38]
Whitney Levitt
It always is if. If somebody like. So Jen wasn't there at that event, at that trip.
[09:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[09:44]
Whitney Levitt
Because if she was there, then she would have been in the hot seat.
[09:47]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[09:47]
Whitney Levitt
So I was like, it just. It just happens naturally. So I knew it was going to be. So I was like. So you felt like, what's going on over here? Yeah.
[09:57]
Amanda Hirsch
But people were forgiving you. Everyone was in the good. Well, you. You were kind of on your way to being back into mom talk.
[10:05]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[10:06]
Amanda Hirsch
I mean, you did. You didn't get the votes, though. I didn't vote.
[10:09]
Whitney Levitt
It didn't. It was like a half ass vote.
[10:12]
Amanda Hirsch
How did that feel?
[10:13]
Whitney Levitt
It sucked.
[10:14]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[10:14]
Whitney Levitt
I was like, I don't really know how to take that. Like. Yeah, it didn't feel great.
[10:20]
Amanda Hirsch
How does one's like, ego stand there.
[10:23]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[10:23]
Amanda Hirsch
And have people be like, no. Like, I don't know if I could. How do you disassociate from people just looking in the face, spending time with you, whatever, but then saying rejecting you.
[10:34]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. These are really great questions.
[10:36]
Amanda Hirsch
Thank you.
[10:37]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, I think that I just. Well, one, again, I'm like, sleep deprived. So I think Whitney now probably would have handled that situation a little bit differently. I probably would have been like, dude, what the fuck?
[10:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Right?
[10:49]
Whitney Levitt
But I think just in that moment, I was just like, okay, great.
[10:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Your eyes did seem. I don't know if again, it was like postpartum tired. But you did seem kind of like bloodshot in a few scenes where, like, it looked like you were gonna cry a little bit.
[11:03]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, really?
[11:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[11:04]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, you're like, nope, I wasn't gonna cry. But just like, looking back at that later, I was just like, that was like a half ass vote.
[11:12]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[11:12]
Whitney Levitt
And also when I even mentioned it, it was a joke. But then it turned into this, like this real vote. Yes. And I'm like, can we like, vote to ban the vote?
[11:22]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. It's not weird.
[11:24]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[11:25]
Amanda Hirsch
Why does Michaela hate you so much?
[11:28]
Whitney Levitt
Do you know? Because I don't.
[11:30]
Amanda Hirsch
No.
[11:30]
Whitney Levitt
No, I have no idea.
[11:32]
Amanda Hirsch
She did I have no idea. We don't get a real explanation. I don't think on the show, aside from what we know, the drama of season one.
[11:38]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. And I don't think people ever will, because before we even filmed the show, me, Macy, Michaela, were so close. Like best friends, three amigas, like, such a close relationship. So people didn't really see that. So I think that's what made it even more confusing. But I don't think it was one thing that Michaela's like this. I think it was just a lot of other things. And I also think she's going through things in her personal life where I just, like, became, like, the punching bag, which I don't want to justify because I think what she did was completely unwarranted. But that's the perspective I like to have. Or, like, I think I was a punching bag, but.
[12:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay, but when you did the unfollow, the mass unfollow, she was one of the people you unfollowed.
[12:24]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[12:24]
Amanda Hirsch
So maybe she's just super hurt because you were actually close and you unfollowed her.
[12:28]
Whitney Levitt
But then we cleared that up.
[12:29]
Amanda Hirsch
You did.
[12:29]
Whitney Levitt
And then she was still upset. So I think it was just. Maybe she just wanted to be upset, you know? And, like, you just want to be upset because you're just pissed. Like, even if you have a conversation, you're still pissed about it. So maybe it just is taking her a little bit longer to get over it. I don't know.
[12:44]
Amanda Hirsch
But she. Yeah, she really doesn't want to be friends again.
[12:47]
Whitney Levitt
And that's okay because I don't either.
[12:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, you don't either anymore?
[12:50]
Whitney Levitt
I do not.
[12:51]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. So maybe trying to, like, reconnect you to you. You gave up after that scene.
[12:57]
Whitney Levitt
Honestly, I, like, don't even really think that Macy cares anymore because, like, when I look back at that, I feel like she chose a side and she chose Michaela's side. And I think that she kind of just left me hanging because I was the villain. And I don't think anybody really wanted to get close to me because they were scared of people being upset, like, by association.
[13:20]
Amanda Hirsch
But Macy did. But she was. She did. Maybe she kept you on, like, a low fire. Like a low. You know, like, not like, Whitney's my best friend, everyone except her. But she was friends with you in season two.
[13:33]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[13:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. You didn't. You didn't appreciate you. You didn't feel like. I think that we were.
[13:38]
Whitney Levitt
No, I think it was just. No, absolutely not. No. No.
[13:43]
Amanda Hirsch
Did it hurt you to watch that scene back where she was saying sisterhood to get out of the convo with you three times.
[13:48]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. Because that conversation was really hard to have. Like, I got so emotional in that conversation, and I don't think you see that. I don't remember people saying.
[13:57]
Amanda Hirsch
I don't. Yeah, yeah.
[13:58]
Whitney Levitt
I was so emotional during it. So to, like, make it like a game, I was like, dude, like, you guys, like, what the hell?
[14:04]
Amanda Hirsch
Does that feel really like high school to you?
[14:06]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, it was so high school.
[14:07]
Amanda Hirsch
You're also older than them, right? You're 30. What?
[14:10]
Whitney Levitt
I'm 32. I just turned 32.
[14:12]
Amanda Hirsch
And they're like, 28.
[14:14]
Whitney Levitt
Well, no, Macy's like 28.
[14:16]
Amanda Hirsch
I think baby Michaela is a baby. She's 25. So does that feel like.
[14:22]
Whitney Levitt
I think she's 25.
[14:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Did that feel like part of it for you? Like, do you feel like there were.
[14:26]
Whitney Levitt
No, because that's never how it was before.
[14:28]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[14:28]
Whitney Levitt
So I just think that. Yeah. I don't know. Emotions are heightened when you're in reality tv, just naturally. But, yeah, that was, like, an eye roll for sure. Cause I was like, dude, like, Macy knew how hard that conversation was for me before, like, how much. How scared I was even going in it. So, like, to make it a game.
[14:48]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, you felt betrayed me more by Macy because you were friends at that point.
[14:52]
Whitney Levitt
I think Macy just didn't know how to be a friend to both of us. And I can see how that can be hard to navigate.
[14:57]
Amanda Hirsch
Well, they do seem like two peas in a pod. In this. Yes. In this season. Yeah.
[15:00]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[15:01]
Amanda Hirsch
So who did you feel like this season? I feel like Taylor and you were cool.
[15:06]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[15:06]
Amanda Hirsch
Until you. But you picked the wrong side, Whitney.
[15:10]
Whitney Levitt
Hey, I like the side.
[15:11]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[15:11]
Whitney Levitt
So I'll stick with that.
[15:12]
Amanda Hirsch
But Taylor was into you. She was, like, she was one of the people, like, willing to accept you kind of back.
[15:17]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, for sure.
[15:18]
Amanda Hirsch
So. So what was the reason? What can you tell us about, like, why you did. I mean, now that you voted her off, but you were kind of more Team Demi in that.
[15:26]
Whitney Levitt
I wouldn't even say I would, like, chose a team, but, like, there was so much that wasn't shown where I just didn't like how people were being treated. Like, why are we ganging up on this person right now? Like, and why is that? Like, the culture of that? Like, why do we have to kick people when they're down?
[15:40]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[15:41]
Whitney Levitt
It just seems so incredibly unnecessary. And I felt like that's what was happening with Demi.
[15:45]
Amanda Hirsch
Demi, right. Sorry. Demi. To me. To me.
[15:47]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[15:48]
Amanda Hirsch
And Layla showing. Were you on that group text that Layla showed Taylor Not.
[15:52]
Whitney Levitt
Thank God.
[15:52]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. But I mean, showing someone an entire group chat about.
[15:56]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. That was naughty.
[15:58]
Amanda Hirsch
And that was like, she didn't have to. It's not like Taylor was, like, demanding.
[16:01]
Whitney Levitt
No.
[16:02]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, Taylor wasn't like, show me what you're talking about right now.
[16:04]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[16:05]
Amanda Hirsch
No. Do you want to see this group chat all talking about you?
[16:08]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[16:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Why do you think she did that?
[16:10]
Whitney Levitt
I don't know. I think that some people get scared of Taylor's following, and so they always want to be on her good side. But it's like, if Taylor does me dirty, like, I don't owe her anything. Like, I'm so happy that she did that, but that's how she felt. But I mean, if. Then you're going to do me dirty, then, like, I'm going to have my own feelings and I'm going to process those feelings. But I think a lot of women in the group were scared to, like, do.
[16:33]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[16:33]
Whitney Levitt
Wrong. Because. Yeah. Because she bad side.
[16:36]
Amanda Hirsch
Is she technically, like, the leader of Mom Talk?
[16:39]
Whitney Levitt
Okay. This is the thing.
[16:43]
Amanda Hirsch
Is a leader.
[16:44]
Whitney Levitt
There is a difference between the star of the show, which is Taylor. It's obviously Taylor. Taylor is the star of the show and the leader. Taylor's not the leader of Mom Talk.
[16:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[16:53]
Whitney Levitt
Taylor never, like, like, gets like, the people us together. Never really did, like, way, way in the past. Even when I was invited to things, it wasn't from Taylor.
[17:02]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[17:03]
Whitney Levitt
But she's the star of the show for sure. So I think there's just. There's a. There's a difference. Oh, and she doesn't even want to be the leader. She's got so much shit going on.
[17:10]
Amanda Hirsch
And the leader would be somebody that's organizing, like, Content Day is.
[17:13]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. Or just like, trying to get the group together or, like, help a situation. Like, let's go through this situation rather than making it worse than it already is. Like, that's how I see it.
[17:24]
Amanda Hirsch
But doing that, then I feel like.
[17:26]
Whitney Levitt
Me and Jesse probably do it the most. Like, probably like Jesse's on better terms with everyone in the group than I am. So I like, kind of straight stray away from that, I think, because I even tried to get everyone together after we filmed season two, but I think, like, emotions were still a little too high heightened because I'm like, I feel like we need, like a regroup without cameras.
[17:48]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[17:48]
Whitney Levitt
And nobody was interested.
[17:49]
Amanda Hirsch
I love, though, I love when you break the fourth wall when. When anyone does and you did it this season?
[17:55]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, we did.
[17:55]
Amanda Hirsch
When you were like, well, we're on a reality show, so of course I'm gonna, like, try to talk to you about it when the cameras are here.
[18:02]
Whitney Levitt
Which is funny because we did talk about it. We did have conversation via voice memo. And I saw her at an event and I was like. After I saw her, I was like, oh, I feel like there's, like, animosity there. Like, are we good?
[18:13]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[18:14]
Whitney Levitt
And said sorry and everything. And it was received. So it was so weird to, like, have that conversation and then see the backlash that I got from her online. And then it. And then I got resentful.
[18:24]
Amanda Hirsch
And so you started making videos with Demi.
[18:27]
Whitney Levitt
Yes. I love her. I don't care. I love her.
[18:31]
Amanda Hirsch
You're really feeling Demi right now?
[18:33]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[18:33]
Amanda Hirsch
How do you feel about the world turning on her?
[18:36]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, man.
[18:36]
Amanda Hirsch
What's she doing?
[18:37]
Whitney Levitt
It sucks. But, like, people have to understand that, like, if there's a camera following you around and they're only showing, like, your worst moments, like, which is what happened to me season one, like, obviously, you're gonna be the bad guy.
[18:48]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[18:49]
Whitney Levitt
And there's just more context to what happened that I saw that I'll have the balls to say, but are we.
[18:55]
Amanda Hirsch
Gonna see that on season three? You don't know.
[18:57]
Whitney Levitt
We'll find out together. But I think just like, let's give people grace and understand that, one, you never really know what someone's going through. And two, there's. Oh, I love this gif. It's. It's. Who's Megan's husband?
[19:12]
Amanda Hirsch
Prince Meghan? Who? Harry. Harry.
[19:15]
Whitney Levitt
Harry. Sorry, Harry. There's a picture of him going like this, and he's coming out of a cab.
[19:20]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh. And they think it's like.
[19:21]
Whitney Levitt
And then from the other side, it looks like he's flipping off people, but then from this side, he's being like, okay, like. Like this.
[19:28]
Amanda Hirsch
Uh huh.
[19:29]
Whitney Levitt
Just. Just know there's always two sides of this to the story.
[19:31]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[19:32]
Whitney Levitt
And you're only being shown one.
[19:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[19:34]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[19:35]
Amanda Hirsch
But then on podcasts and stuff, you're supposed to tell the other side.
[19:38]
Whitney Levitt
But then, like, contractually. Yeah. There's only so much I can say. But I think just like, knowing that and like, knowing that, I really don't think anyone in the group is intentionally being malicious and cruel and evil.
[19:51]
Amanda Hirsch
Well, if Demi.
[19:52]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[19:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Is very close friends with Jesse. Jesse seems like a really loyal, loyal friend. And. And we find out that she wanted to get her off the show. Yeah, that's us. Yeah. That's not A great moment.
[20:06]
Whitney Levitt
And Demi knows that she did a wrong in that for sure.
[20:08]
Amanda Hirsch
And then there's.
[20:09]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, but you also have to understand because I. I wasn't even sure if I was going to come back season two, that there were conversations about the contract that apparently Jesse didn't agree with. So it wasn't just, to me, that was upset about it. There were other women involved. I don't know exactly who that was. But then, like, unfortunately, I think it's because it was her best friend that it, like, kind of hurt. But it wasn't just to me that was, like, annoyed by it.
[20:36]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. Yeah, I got you. Right. But she is her best friend. Right. Once you want your best friend behind her back being like, well, no.
[20:41]
Whitney Levitt
Well, then you can leave. Yeah. No. And she knows that. She does.
[20:45]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. So there's that.
[20:47]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[20:47]
Amanda Hirsch
There's the hair situation that she told Taylor not to go there. And there's like, I'm the fan favorite. Asking Layla how much they made at the event. I mean, this seems to be really a point of contention for her. Like, the brand deals, the money, like, how much Is that part of the mom talk world? Like, competition over the brand deals and shit like that?
[21:06]
Whitney Levitt
I mean, I try to stay out of those conversations because I think it's very personal.
[21:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[21:10]
Whitney Levitt
But, like, I mean, that is weird.
[21:11]
Amanda Hirsch
To be asked, like, yeah, getting that text, like, how much you make, like, yeah, that's bizarro.
[21:15]
Whitney Levitt
No, I. I think. I mean, I don't want to speak for Demi, but I would think that it's probably just because maybe she got something similar and she wants to make sure that she's being. That she can negotiate fairly. Like, I don't think she was like, oh, like, I don't know. At least that's.
[21:32]
Amanda Hirsch
You are seeing the. You are seeing the. I mean, I feel like maybe part of you, because you went through this after season one, that you kind of feel for her for sure.
[21:42]
Whitney Levitt
I do. And just like I did in the beginning of season two for Jen, like, I think she was naturally, like, starting to be separated from the group, and it's like, I. Like, no one should have feel that way.
[21:55]
Amanda Hirsch
But who did that for you?
[21:56]
Whitney Levitt
No one.
[21:57]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[21:57]
Whitney Levitt
So maybe I'm. I'm just. I want to be the person that I wanted after season one. Yeah.
[22:04]
Amanda Hirsch
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[25:21]
Whitney Levitt
Hi, I'm Dr. Will Cole. As a leading functional medicine practitioner, I have had the unique position to see so many alchemize their pain and health problems to their purpose. Now I want the same for you. This podcast is the manifesto for a new breed of health seekers where there is a fresh infusion of grace and lightness into wellness. This is the art of being well. Join me every Thursday for a new episode.
[25:51]
Amanda Hirsch
And we're back. How can you look at all these women and be cool with some of them when you're like, wow, you really treated me like shit? You know, and maybe you will again.
[26:03]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[26:04]
Amanda Hirsch
I mean, Macy even said it, like, you don't know in this group, like, yeah, who's going to be at Change tomorrow. Right. So how do you protect yourself in that? Like, do you not share everything?
[26:14]
Whitney Levitt
Yes. I'm definitely a little bit more guarded with certain people in the group.
[26:18]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[26:18]
Whitney Levitt
But you also have to remember that it wasn't like this before. But it's so much of a business now, too.
[26:24]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[26:25]
Whitney Levitt
So it's almost like kind of suck it up. Like it's your co worker too. So suck it up.
[26:29]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
[26:29]
Whitney Levitt
You can have relationships with some. I mean, naturally you're going to gravitate towards people in a workplace.
[26:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
[26:34]
Whitney Levitt
But it's just crazy to me that, like, that's where we are. But that's what it is.
[26:38]
Amanda Hirsch
Right. So it was hard to, like, kind of change.
[26:41]
Whitney Levitt
Like, I've got. I've had a different mindset where I'm like, you are my co worker.
[26:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
[26:45]
Whitney Levitt
We create entertainment together.
[26:47]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[26:47]
Whitney Levitt
You are my friend. I will be vulnerable with you. Kind of like that.
[26:51]
Amanda Hirsch
It's kind of like, do you watch any of the Housewives and stuff like that?
[26:54]
Whitney Levitt
I do watch the Salt Lake House.
[26:55]
Amanda Hirsch
Salt Lake. Oh, that's, that's funny. I mean, I watch like the NYC one.
[26:59]
Whitney Levitt
Okay. Yeah.
[27:01]
Amanda Hirsch
So it's kind of like that. Where like, you'll watch confessionals, they talk about each other. They won't, like, not be friends after. They'll film another season.
[27:09]
Whitney Levitt
Kind of gotta suck it up, huh? I said you kind of just gotta suck it up.
[27:13]
Amanda Hirsch
But what's the hardest part about. Is it watching confessionals back or people talking behind your back?
[27:18]
Whitney Levitt
I think it's just. No, I actually think it's like watching conversations and being like, there's more to this story. Like, there's more to that.
[27:25]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, I like. Ah, yeah.
[27:27]
Whitney Levitt
But it's out of my control. So you're just like, okay.
[27:30]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, so who are you close with now? Demi and Demi.
[27:33]
Whitney Levitt
Demi, sit.
[27:35]
Amanda Hirsch
I mean, you two against the world.
[27:36]
Whitney Levitt
I mean, I would say I'm cordial with every single person in the group. Even Mikayla. Like, we're good. Everyone's okay. I'm okay with everyone.
[27:43]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[27:44]
Whitney Levitt
But I'm definitely the closest with Demi. Like, we talk every day.
[27:47]
Amanda Hirsch
You do?
[27:47]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[27:48]
Amanda Hirsch
And how is she doing mentally?
[27:50]
Whitney Levitt
She's doing okay. Like, I think that, I mean, it sucks. And it's so funny sometimes when I like, read comments, I'm like, who is writing this? Who is going out of their way to like, say something like that?
[28:01]
Amanda Hirsch
I mean, you've experienced that?
[28:03]
Whitney Levitt
Yes.
[28:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Like what, what was like, the worst that you experienced at the height of everyone, like, the worst comment, like, bullying you online?
[28:10]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, I think. Well, the worst was when. And Demi hasn't done or none of the women have been doing this to Demi. And it's probably because I was so vocal about how much it hurt me. It hurt the most when the other women were like, creating videos, like, making fun of me or like, yeah, low key, like harassing, bullying me and like feeding into this narrative.
[28:32]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Like, more hurtful from them because you know them than strangers.
[28:36]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. But I love that nobody's doing that to Demi. So. Yeah, I'm happy because I think maybe.
[28:42]
Amanda Hirsch
They make things worse.
[28:44]
Whitney Levitt
That's great. We're learning. That's great. Yeah, we're growing.
[28:47]
Amanda Hirsch
Wait, so give me a little bit of context to before the show. Okay, so before the show, who are you friends with?
[28:53]
Whitney Levitt
Irl, Macy, Michaela.
[28:56]
Amanda Hirsch
You Macy, Michaela know each other?
[28:57]
Whitney Levitt
Yes.
[28:58]
Amanda Hirsch
Do, do videos.
[28:59]
Whitney Levitt
Would hang out all the time, make videos together. I mean, we would get together as a group like Taylor and everyone else. But, like, I mainly got together with Macy Michaela.
[29:08]
Amanda Hirsch
I say, yeah. And then when the show came about, how did it find you?
[29:13]
Whitney Levitt
So it's funny, we at the time were all at the same agency and or management group and we were like, oh, how funny. Like, we have so much drama. How funny would it be if we had, like, a reality show and there were no bites and then Taylor's scandal broke out, and then everyone was like, okay, wait a second. Like, can you imagine if that. If we had a reality show during that time of the scandal would have just been insane.
[29:35]
Amanda Hirsch
You guys actually pitched it for real?
[29:38]
Whitney Levitt
For real.
[29:38]
Amanda Hirsch
Or you just threw it out there as like. Or there was a real pitch going on?
[29:41]
Whitney Levitt
No, I think. I don't know how real it was, but, like, from what I was told is, like, our management was, like, putting it out there. Yeah, they're putting it out there. No bites. And then the scandal happened, and then, like, everyone wanted a piece of this pie.
[29:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Wow.
[29:54]
Whitney Levitt
It was pretty cool.
[29:55]
Amanda Hirsch
And tell me about living the scandal. Like, you weren't in it. In it?
[29:59]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[29:59]
Amanda Hirsch
But was it. The whole town was whispering, like, what were the vibes?
[30:03]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, yeah, it was. It's like I could just feel like, you know, you could feel like somebody's looking at you. Like, when I'd go out, it would.
[30:10]
Amanda Hirsch
Be like, is she in it or is she not?
[30:11]
Whitney Levitt
Yes. Yeah. And I mean, I got a lot of views on my socials, so that's great.
[30:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Because they were, like, watching to see whether if I was you come out.
[30:23]
Whitney Levitt
I was a swinger.
[30:24]
Amanda Hirsch
Did you know I didn't care. Like, did it affect you? Like, oh, my God. I want people to think that I do this.
[30:27]
Whitney Levitt
No, because I didn't.
[30:28]
Amanda Hirsch
You're like, I was meant to be a reality star, Whitney.
[30:30]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. Oh, really?
[30:31]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Because you generally don't give a. I don't give a.
[30:34]
Whitney Levitt
Well, I will say, though, that's changed because I did a lot during season one, and I think that's what me over. Sorry, that's what.
[30:41]
Amanda Hirsch
No, you can say.
[30:41]
Whitney Levitt
You can say. Okay. Because I was so, like, I don't want to be the bad guy. I don't want to be like. And then I turn into the bad guy. It's like, almost like I, like, manifested.
[30:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Really?
[30:50]
Whitney Levitt
But then I feel like now that needed to happen. It really did. Because of who I am.
[30:57]
Amanda Hirsch
You know what you're doing? You're throwing me back to that episode where Macy asked you if you regretted not going to baby mama.
[31:04]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, God.
[31:04]
Amanda Hirsch
And you said. Which I understood what you said.
[31:07]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[31:08]
Amanda Hirsch
You said no, because, like, I learned from it. And, like, I. You know.
[31:13]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[31:13]
Amanda Hirsch
And she was like, do you regret it or not?
[31:15]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[31:15]
Amanda Hirsch
You went. You're very stubborn.
[31:17]
Whitney Levitt
I know.
[31:17]
Amanda Hirsch
What. What sign are you I'm a Taurus. Oh, Source is stubborn. You are. Oh, you are. Huh? Oh, no, you wouldn't. I'm like, give it to her. Just tell her, like, fine. I regret.
[31:31]
Whitney Levitt
I know. I know.
[31:32]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, it was. You were like. No, because you know what? It remind me fights, like, with my sister. It's like that kind of vibe.
[31:39]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[31:39]
Amanda Hirsch
We're like, neither person is just, like, budging.
[31:42]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. I will say a little teaser. Maybe it happens the next 10 that are released.
[31:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Wait, what? What happened?
[31:52]
Whitney Levitt
Like, maybe we have that conversation again.
[31:54]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[31:55]
Whitney Levitt
And maybe better and better. Maybe.
[31:57]
Amanda Hirsch
Maybe.
[31:57]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[31:58]
Amanda Hirsch
I hope so.
[31:58]
Whitney Levitt
Me too.
[31:59]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. But you also didn't go to Taylor's.
[32:02]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, yeah. The baby shower. Yeah.
[32:03]
Amanda Hirsch
That was like, I'm trying. I didn't rewatch season one before too, which, like, now I kind of wish I did, because, like, I forget, like, the. The moment by moment. Yeah, but why didn't you go?
[32:13]
Whitney Levitt
I just. I felt like it was completely out of nowhere. Like, we just, like, we weren't friends. Like, I feel like that was such, like, a friend thing to do. Like, even when mom talk was mom talk, like, I didn't feel like we were, like, really close friends.
[32:26]
Amanda Hirsch
But she came to yours this season.
[32:28]
Whitney Levitt
I know. I told her. I said, if you didn't come, I would have had my mom call you. So, good thing you came.
[32:33]
Amanda Hirsch
But did you expect her to come?
[32:35]
Whitney Levitt
I did. Because we were good, our friendship. We rekindled the friendship and create, like, a relationship was happening.
[32:43]
Amanda Hirsch
Right. But do you see my disconnect where, like, you rekindled it and then you turned on her and you're telling me you don't know why, and I can't tell you why?
[32:48]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, I totally get it. I'm sorry. That's frustrating.
[32:53]
Amanda Hirsch
I'm being gaslit, you guys. I don't know what to do. What am I gonna do? Do you feel like now the tides have turned? Season two, you're saying you were chiller Postpartum, for sure. Do you feel like the audience is embracing? Do you think the people that were against you are now with you? Like, what? What's your feeling?
[33:12]
Whitney Levitt
I know. It's so funny. When I do these interviews, people will be like, oh, like, people like you? I'm like, they do. Like, that's great. Like, I try to not.
[33:20]
Amanda Hirsch
I mean, obviously you want people to like you now.
[33:22]
Whitney Levitt
For sure.
[33:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[33:23]
Whitney Levitt
Like, yeah, I'm a human. I'm the entertainment industry. Like, I want people to like me.
[33:27]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[33:27]
Whitney Levitt
But I don't know. I'm like, we'll See how long it lasts.
[33:31]
Amanda Hirsch
You're ready. Wow. Stop, Whitney.
[33:35]
Whitney Levitt
I mean, I don't know. Like, I just. Like, I honestly, like, I just. I'm tired. I don't really care. Like, it's just not worth it. It's worth it to me. When you put. I know.
[33:43]
Amanda Hirsch
You put out a video.
[33:45]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[33:45]
Amanda Hirsch
Do you look at the comments?
[33:46]
Whitney Levitt
I do in the beginning.
[33:48]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[33:48]
Whitney Levitt
And then I don't look at them anymore.
[33:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[33:50]
Whitney Levitt
And in the beginning it's always like, fire hot.
[33:52]
Amanda Hirsch
Yes.
[33:53]
Whitney Levitt
Clean slay. Like, it's always, like, positive.
[33:55]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[33:56]
Whitney Levitt
Because I don't know why. Yeah. And, like, why it's only in the beginning. And then I just. I stay off of it.
[34:02]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[34:02]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[34:03]
Amanda Hirsch
So how does Connor feel about, like, the social media presence? The show?
[34:06]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[34:06]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, does he ever say, like, it's going to be too much or maybe what's his vibe?
[34:12]
Whitney Levitt
I'd say right now it's felt like a lot because I have, like, we have three kids now and, like, I've been gone a lot and then filming the show and so, like, we're still trying to figure that out, like, trying to navigate it because. Yeah. I'm not used to, like, being away from my family this much.
[34:28]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[34:28]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[34:29]
Amanda Hirsch
How was that? So how many days postpartum did you start filming season two?
[34:33]
Whitney Levitt
It was three. It was three days.
[34:36]
Amanda Hirsch
I can't believe it was. How did the first three days you do that?
[34:38]
Whitney Levitt
Girl? I don't even know. Lots of caffeine. I'm a caffeine addict.
[34:41]
Amanda Hirsch
And you were pumping, but you were also, like, breastfeeding.
[34:45]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, I would be pumping, like, while we're on these girls trips.
[34:49]
Amanda Hirsch
I know. I saw. Oh, yeah, you're with the hand.
[34:51]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. Yeah. Had to stay on top of it.
[34:54]
Amanda Hirsch
That's why.
[34:55]
Whitney Levitt
Dedication right there. Yeah.
[34:56]
Amanda Hirsch
Did you have thoughts about it? Were you thinking maybe I don't go film on the, like, right when they start, like. Or was it like, I'm doing whatever needs to be done.
[35:06]
Whitney Levitt
I'm doing whatever needs to be done. Yeah.
[35:08]
Amanda Hirsch
Did you have any guilt?
[35:10]
Whitney Levitt
I think I just. Just. It's so hard because. And maybe I'm. I'm happy that I was so unbothered because I didn't want to bring that energy home. That was like my main thing. It's like, how can I do my best to not bring this tension and chaos home to this new baby? And I feel like I did a really good job doing that. And Connor helped me navigate it. I would just talk.
[35:31]
Amanda Hirsch
Was he by himself with the three kids, or do you have help.
[35:33]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, no, it was him.
[35:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Shut the fuck up.
[35:35]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, he's amazing.
[35:36]
Amanda Hirsch
Wait, no nanny, no nothing?
[35:37]
Whitney Levitt
No, I mean, I'd have a sitter if like he was needed too. Like if both of us obviously had to leave. But when it was just him, it's just him.
[35:44]
Amanda Hirsch
And how old are the kids? A baby.
[35:46]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. So, well now because he's at home, just them right now. So five year old, three year old, and now he's seven months old.
[35:52]
Amanda Hirsch
I'm dead.
[35:53]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, he's amazing.
[35:54]
Amanda Hirsch
Wait, how does he do three kids by himself? Can you do three kids?
[35:57]
Whitney Levitt
Absolutely. I'm like, if I could do it.
[35:58]
Amanda Hirsch
He could do it. Wait, so you can handle the three kids on your own too?
[36:01]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I would love to have someone on hand. We talk about it all the time. Like, this is just another sign where I'm like, I really need to find someone like, on hand.
[36:11]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. To like help you.
[36:13]
Whitney Levitt
Yes, because like, we'll find a sitter. And I live around a lot of family where it's. Both of us are gone then obviously.
[36:18]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, your family can step in.
[36:19]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[36:20]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[36:20]
Whitney Levitt
But I do think it's time for some extra help.
[36:24]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[36:24]
Whitney Levitt
I think anyone's. If anyone's looking for a job, I.
[36:27]
Amanda Hirsch
Mean, the brand deals are coming so like fucking shell it out, you know. No, it's amazing if you do it all on your own, you guys. I'm just saying it's hard. It is very hard if you work.
[36:35]
Whitney Levitt
If. Well, Connor works too. He works from home.
[36:38]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, right.
[36:38]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. But his job is very task oriented. So it's like he completes the task and then he's done for the day.
[36:43]
Amanda Hirsch
How does he feel about like working a normie job and then being on reality tv? Is he scared people are going to see shit and judge him?
[36:49]
Whitney Levitt
He's just along for the ride.
[36:51]
Amanda Hirsch
I love that.
[36:51]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, he just supports me like no other. And he doesn't have social media either.
[36:55]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, he doesn't have.
[36:57]
Whitney Levitt
No, he's not on social media. Yeah. So I always like, have to like download the video and then send like text it to him and be like, look at this one. Like, it's so cute.
[37:06]
Amanda Hirsch
That is really cute. You guys met on. Somebody set you up.
[37:09]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, we were set up on a blind date. Yeah, blind dates do work sometimes. Yeah.
[37:14]
Amanda Hirsch
How many years ago was this?
[37:15]
Whitney Levitt
So that would have been. Oh, gosh. We're coming up on our nine year anniversary.
[37:22]
Amanda Hirsch
Wow.
[37:22]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[37:23]
Amanda Hirsch
How did he do in supporting you after like season one? Did he really show up for you in A big way.
[37:27]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, absolutely. Like, he was the only one.
[37:30]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[37:30]
Whitney Levitt
And I think, like, it was hard for him seeing me in that space.
[37:33]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[37:34]
Whitney Levitt
Because he's like, why are like, you doing this to yourself? But which is funny because he also was the one that really helped me come back and like, have those hard conversations because I was, like, so resentful and just kind of, like, pissed off and just like, wanted to say, like, fuck you.
[37:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Wait. And they threw. I mean, he got in the. In the hot seat. Were you expecting that to happen?
[37:54]
Whitney Levitt
You mean season one, Right? When was he in the hot seat? Season one?
[37:58]
Amanda Hirsch
Wasn't that season one when. With the. With the.
[38:02]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, but I never felt like. But like, only with me. Like, it was never like, with, like, it's so much different.
[38:07]
Amanda Hirsch
But did you plan on filming that and, like, sharing such a thing with the world?
[38:11]
Whitney Levitt
I wanted that to be up to Connor. Cause I felt like it was more of his story. I mean, it did affect me, but I feel like this is more of your story than mine.
[38:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[38:19]
Whitney Levitt
And he was totally comfortable sharing it. Like, it happened so naturally. When we did first share it, like, he just like started talking about it and then I was just like, whoa, like, he's sharing this, so I'll just continue to talk about it with him. And then obviously we talked about it more and more after we did for the first time.
[38:35]
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[43:04]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[43:04]
Amanda Hirsch
And some people were saying that he's, you know, on.
[43:06]
Whitney Levitt
That we're in a lavender marriage.
[43:08]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. By the way, like, because. Because of your show. Everyone knows that phrase now.
[43:14]
Whitney Levitt
I didn't even.
[43:16]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, really?
[43:16]
Whitney Levitt
I didn't.
[43:17]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, it's not like a. I mean, I know. Mormon thing.
[43:19]
Whitney Levitt
No.
[43:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[43:20]
Whitney Levitt
I don't know. I guess it is.
[43:21]
Amanda Hirsch
Everyone now says that. But, like, not only about your show or Mormon stuff. They're saying that about, like, actors now. And I'm like, can we not start?
[43:29]
Whitney Levitt
Why do I feel like now? But everyone's saying now that all of our husbands are.
[43:34]
Amanda Hirsch
All of them.
[43:35]
Whitney Levitt
Yes.
[43:35]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[43:36]
Whitney Levitt
I think it's so funny.
[43:39]
Amanda Hirsch
Did. How did he take those rumors?
[43:41]
Whitney Levitt
He just didn't care. Like, it's just, like, people are going to say whatever they like. It's just funny. Like. Yeah, it's like, sometimes we'll actually play into it.
[43:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Really?
[43:50]
Whitney Levitt
On social media? Yeah. Like, some of our videos just, you know, get some extra views.
[43:55]
Amanda Hirsch
No, I cannot with you. Are you being serious? Yeah. She's delirious, you guys. She did a lot of press today. What do you mean, extra views? What aren't you willing to do for extra views, Whitney? I know.
[44:06]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, my God.
[44:07]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, a lot. You're like, what? Like, you actually are. You're like. You're like the Spencer Pratt of our generation.
[44:15]
Whitney Levitt
I'll take it. I love that. Yeah, I'll take it. That's funny because I met him at an event.
[44:20]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[44:21]
Whitney Levitt
Who event? Him and Heidi. And they were talking to Demi and I, and they're just like, who cares? Like, who cares?
[44:27]
Amanda Hirsch
Well, you know, he said he was on my pod and he said something about the hills. Then he was like, I knew that I wanted to, like, stand out, be famous, get rich, blah, blah, blah. And I knew it was way easier to get people to hate me than to get people to like me so that you, like, played that up.
[44:45]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[44:45]
Amanda Hirsch
But obviously you want people to like you.
[44:48]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[44:48]
Amanda Hirsch
So how does it feel when people still, to this day reference the.
[44:53]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, the RSA video? I mean, I think back then I still, like, was connected to it, but I mean, like, now I'm just like, that's your.
[45:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Your son, right? Who's how old now?
[45:04]
Whitney Levitt
Yes, he's three now.
[45:06]
Amanda Hirsch
Three now.
[45:07]
Whitney Levitt
He turns four this year.
[45:07]
Amanda Hirsch
And was it a, like, a rough case of RSV then? Like.
[45:11]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, no, it was really bad. But when I made the video, he was doing better.
[45:14]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[45:15]
Whitney Levitt
But then when I, like, right after I posted that, that next day, he was doing worse, so it was like he was doing worse. And then on top of that, I'm, like, getting all of these calls from, like, family and friends, being like, dude, you good? I'm just like, what are you talking about? Like, I didn't even. Because it had been up, I think, for 24 hours. Like, I didn't even know what was happening with that video. I didn't even know. It was, like, taking a turn and, like, in a negative way. And then my husband called me. Is like, you need to take that. Like, I just.
[45:45]
Amanda Hirsch
Did you take it down?
[45:46]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, I did take it down.
[45:47]
Amanda Hirsch
Because you. You, like, unlike other things, like, with that, you did understand where people were coming from.
[45:51]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, no, for sure, I did. Yeah. Yeah. But.
[45:54]
Amanda Hirsch
But how did you, like, defend yourself against that? Like, that? It was just.
[45:57]
Whitney Levitt
I think I just. I apologized and I was like, oh, I can totally, like, see this is after Liam's doing better. Because I was. I wasn't even focused on that video.
[46:08]
Amanda Hirsch
Correct.
[46:08]
Whitney Levitt
I was in the hospital.
[46:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[46:10]
Whitney Levitt
Wearing diapers because I just gave birth. Like, very hormonal. So I needed some time before, like, I came out and said anything. And also, I didn't really have a big platform then. It was really small. So I was like, this is crazy.
[46:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[46:24]
Whitney Levitt
But, yeah, I hate that's, like, such a part of my life. I hate that.
[46:30]
Amanda Hirsch
Would that be your one kind of regret on social media?
[46:33]
Whitney Levitt
Kim's sex tape? Like, that's my sex tape. I guess it will always haunt me and always be with me. Yeah.
[46:41]
Amanda Hirsch
Do you think you're done having kids?
[46:43]
Whitney Levitt
I am, yeah. Yeah.
[46:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Did you do any procedurals?
[46:45]
Whitney Levitt
Snip snip for Connor?
[46:47]
Amanda Hirsch
He did the snip snip. Was he a trooper about it?
[46:50]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, yeah, for sure he was. Yeah. I just, like, I've done my ed. I've done birth control. The Pill. Like, I just. It's not for me.
[46:57]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[46:58]
Whitney Levitt
Don't love condoms.
[46:59]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[47:00]
Whitney Levitt
Tmi.
[47:00]
Amanda Hirsch
Tmi.
[47:01]
Whitney Levitt
Snip, snap.
[47:02]
Amanda Hirsch
Snip snap.
[47:03]
Whitney Levitt
It's great.
[47:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Who drinks alcohol in the group?
[47:05]
Whitney Levitt
Jesse does. I know. Michaela does every once in a while. Layla. I've seen Demi take some shots and you never. I tried champagne once.
[47:17]
Amanda Hirsch
It's not allowed in Mormonism.
[47:19]
Whitney Levitt
It's not allowed? No. So it's like, part of the guideline to not drink alcohol.
[47:23]
Amanda Hirsch
And what's the explanation of.
[47:26]
Whitney Levitt
I think just, like, being able to. I mean, we can all ask God these questions after we die. But, like, for me, I think it's just because you. When you do drink alcohol, like, you're not in control of yourself. And so it's like. And that usually leads to other things. So I guess just, like, staying away.
[47:45]
Amanda Hirsch
For it as a whole. Like bad Mormons.
[47:48]
Whitney Levitt
No, I don't.
[47:49]
Amanda Hirsch
If you have a friend that drinks, you don't care.
[47:50]
Whitney Levitt
No, I have family that drinks.
[47:51]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. My.
[47:53]
Whitney Levitt
My grandmother drinks wine every night.
[47:56]
Amanda Hirsch
So you just make the choice for yourself?
[47:58]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[47:58]
Amanda Hirsch
Are you more religious than the rest of your family?
[48:00]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, my family? No.
[48:02]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, but your grandmother.
[48:03]
Whitney Levitt
But. Well, my dad's a convert, so my grandmother is actually.
[48:07]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, yeah. Okay.
[48:09]
Whitney Levitt
And so, yeah, absolutely. Like, his side of the family. Like, none of them are Mormon.
[48:16]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[48:17]
Whitney Levitt
But no, I have friends drink. Neighbors that drink. Like, it doesn't bother me.
[48:20]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. Connor doesn't?
[48:22]
Whitney Levitt
No.
[48:22]
Amanda Hirsch
So what's this ketamine loophole? The ketamine spa therapy. Like, what the.
[48:30]
Whitney Levitt
I love it.
[48:31]
Amanda Hirsch
Couldn't be, like, a weed spa. Like, it has to be something hardcore like ketamine.
[48:35]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, my gosh. That drug is really. I've only done it once, and it was a lot.
[48:39]
Amanda Hirsch
And you have to do it in what setting? In a professional setting.
[48:42]
Whitney Levitt
It isn't a professional setting. Like, a doctor is overseeing it.
[48:47]
Amanda Hirsch
And that doesn't sound like a fun high to, like, get it with a doctor.
[48:51]
Whitney Levitt
Well, I. No, I. Well, they'll leave you in the room. So, like, he'll, you know, hook up the IV and everything, make sure that you're comfy, turn down the lights, and he'll say, I don't even remember how long it was. But, like, you'll be in here for X amount of minutes. I'll come in and, like, slowly, like, get you to wake up basically from it.
[49:08]
Amanda Hirsch
Why are you. I'm so scared.
[49:11]
Whitney Levitt
I shouldn't say wake up. Like, you know, get out of it. It.
[49:14]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. And can you do it with a friend?
[49:16]
Whitney Levitt
Yes.
[49:17]
Amanda Hirsch
In this doctor's office you can do. You get it prescribed? Is it free? I need all the things.
[49:22]
Whitney Levitt
It's not like a prescription, I think, like, at least for.
[49:24]
Amanda Hirsch
What is it like, or a doctor doctor.
[49:27]
Whitney Levitt
It's both.
[49:28]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[49:28]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. They've got them everywhere in Utah.
[49:30]
Amanda Hirsch
Is it legal?
[49:31]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[49:32]
Amanda Hirsch
So you go. Did you. When you did it, was it alone?
[49:36]
Whitney Levitt
No, I did it with Demi and Taylor, but when I went, Taylor was already in her session, so we didn't really get a talk. But us three went together. Yeah.
[49:45]
Amanda Hirsch
What do you do?
[49:45]
Whitney Levitt
Dakota was there too.
[49:47]
Amanda Hirsch
What do you do in your session?
[49:49]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, man. It's different for everyone, but, like, cry a lot. I mean, for Demi, she loves it, but I'll never do it again. I thought it was what was very dark.
[49:57]
Amanda Hirsch
How long was it for you?
[49:59]
Whitney Levitt
I think I was there for. Gosh, it felt like forever. Like, I want to say 30 minutes, but 30 minutes is only.
[50:06]
Amanda Hirsch
That means it was a bad high. If you felt like you were okay, good.
[50:10]
Whitney Levitt
Well, I hated it. I'll never. To me, all times, like, you need to do it again. You're like, yes. Hey, like, till the next day. Yeah, like, getting out of it, going to sleep at night. It wasn't until that morning I was like, oh, my God. Like, if this is what a hangover feels like.
[50:24]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[50:24]
Whitney Levitt
No, I can't go.
[50:25]
Amanda Hirsch
Ketamine hangover might be worse than alcohol.
[50:27]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, I hated it.
[50:28]
Amanda Hirsch
How did become like. Do you know how it became such a part of the culture?
[50:32]
Whitney Levitt
I have no idea. I only found out about it because of Demi, to me was like, oh, you need to go to this ketamine therapy.
[50:38]
Amanda Hirsch
And how is it a Mormon loophole, though? Who approved it?
[50:43]
Whitney Levitt
I think it's just because it's not, like, recreational or it's like, for, like, therapy. So it's okay.
[50:50]
Amanda Hirsch
So what if it was like cocaine for therapy? It would be okay.
[50:54]
Whitney Levitt
I guess so.
[50:55]
Amanda Hirsch
Or weed for therapy.
[50:56]
Whitney Levitt
I don't know.
[50:56]
Amanda Hirsch
Or psychedelic. I mean, actually psychedelics.
[51:00]
Whitney Levitt
Weed. Right. Because if you're prescribed it, like, if you have pain somewhere.
[51:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[51:03]
Whitney Levitt
Mormons, right? Yeah.
[51:04]
Amanda Hirsch
It gives me tremendous anxiety, this ketamine spa of yours.
[51:08]
Whitney Levitt
You should try it. You should let me know when you're in Utah.
[51:10]
Amanda Hirsch
I will never in my life skydive or do ketamine.
[51:15]
Whitney Levitt
Okay.
[51:16]
Amanda Hirsch
Fair people die, I think, from it. Really? I don't know.
[51:19]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, God.
[51:21]
Amanda Hirsch
Don't say.
[51:21]
Whitney Levitt
She's shaking her head no. Nobody dies from ketamine.
[51:25]
Amanda Hirsch
Yes, they do. That's literally insane. How is Jen now?
[51:31]
Whitney Levitt
I think Jen's A lot better.
[51:32]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[51:33]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, a lot.
[51:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Why? Did I see some like Dancing with the Stars video of her?
[51:36]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. She went to like their show or something.
[51:40]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, I thought she was being announced as like a pregnant cast member. No. And I was like, what happening? So who do you think would be like, most likely to do that show?
[51:48]
Whitney Levitt
Me. Put me on it. I'm ready.
[51:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, you want to. Would that be the dream? Absolutely. No babe Traders for you.
[51:57]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, I would love to do Traders. I'd love to do Traders, I'd love to do House of Villains and I would love to do Dancing with the Stars.
[52:04]
Amanda Hirsch
Those are your top three.
[52:05]
Whitney Levitt
Absolutely.
[52:07]
Amanda Hirsch
You were saying before we started recording that you're like a big into manifesting.
[52:10]
Whitney Levitt
Yes.
[52:11]
Amanda Hirsch
So what did you manifest? Being on reality tv.
[52:14]
Whitney Levitt
I guess I did.
[52:14]
Amanda Hirsch
In what way? Like, do you remember?
[52:16]
Whitney Levitt
I remember.
[52:17]
Amanda Hirsch
Did you want to be famous?
[52:18]
Whitney Levitt
Of course. I've always loved the entertainment industry. I feel like I always knew that I was like gonna be a part of that. I just didn't really know how.
[52:25]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[52:26]
Whitney Levitt
And I've growing up always was in theater, acting, dancing, like all the things entertainment, anything to get attention. I was there.
[52:33]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[52:34]
Whitney Levitt
But man, if I were to manifest, oh, the reality show, I think just like we would talk about it, but like in a joking way. And then like, someone needs to be.
[52:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Following us around kind of.
[52:45]
Whitney Levitt
Yes. Like you, like, do you ever, like, families will say like, yeah, like, we need a reality show.
[52:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[52:49]
Whitney Levitt
Like we would say like, oh my God, we need a reality show. And then we go, but did you.
[52:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Guys really refer to yourselves as mom talk before the cameras? No, in this amount, I. Yeah.
[53:00]
Whitney Levitt
What are you referring to? I take that back. We did. Because I'm thinking about all of the videos that we made before the reality show. And we'd always say like, mom talk. Always. Really? Yeah. Is it kind of crazy?
[53:11]
Amanda Hirsch
So how. Yeah, yeah. She's like, so how would you define it? What does mom talk? Is it the. The girls that are making the videos? Like, is it a. Is it the. A group chat? Is it the show?
[53:21]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, I think it's everything but the group chat. I think it's the making because I'm not even in. Me and Jimmy aren't even in that group chat.
[53:29]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[53:30]
Whitney Levitt
I mean there's like this main group chat and then there's like, you know, little break offs that everyone has.
[53:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[53:35]
Whitney Levitt
But I think it's being a part of the show, being a part of the group. Like, it's almost just like a. You got to wait.
[53:42]
Amanda Hirsch
So who's Actually in Mom Talk now.
[53:45]
Whitney Levitt
Everyone that you see on the show.
[53:46]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay, so you are in Mom Talk.
[53:47]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[53:48]
Amanda Hirsch
So it's a bullshit voted and voted out thing.
[53:50]
Whitney Levitt
First off, the whole voting thing. I said that as a joke.
[53:53]
Amanda Hirsch
No, I know.
[53:53]
Whitney Levitt
Okay.
[53:54]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[53:54]
Whitney Levitt
And then everyone took it seriously. And so I'm voting to ban the vote. Let's not do that.
[54:00]
Amanda Hirsch
What about Miranda? She and mom talk then.
[54:02]
Whitney Levitt
Guess we'll find out.
[54:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. Is there a vote? Season three.
[54:05]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, God, I hope not.
[54:06]
Amanda Hirsch
I feel bad for Miranda a little bit in season two.
[54:08]
Whitney Levitt
Really?
[54:09]
Amanda Hirsch
No. She seems really sweet.
[54:10]
Whitney Levitt
She is.
[54:11]
Amanda Hirsch
And she's just kind of there.
[54:13]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[54:14]
Amanda Hirsch
And she's kind of like, am I even part of this thing? Like, no one's like, she wasn't asked to vote on the vote. You know what I mean?
[54:22]
Whitney Levitt
Like, I love it. I do know what you mean.
[54:24]
Amanda Hirsch
But it's wild to then like that, you know, she. She was actually part of this.
[54:29]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[54:29]
Amanda Hirsch
Scandal.
[54:30]
Whitney Levitt
Yes. Yes. She's like the og.
[54:32]
Amanda Hirsch
She's an oga.
[54:33]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[54:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Do you think that Demi and Brett are pretending to have this, like, perfect marriage, or do they really.
[54:40]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, gosh, I think that they really do.
[54:42]
Amanda Hirsch
Really?
[54:42]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. I mean, Connor and I have hung out with them a lot, and they have a great relationship.
[54:46]
Amanda Hirsch
Did she meet him when she was nine? Like, the tick tocks are saying.
[54:51]
Whitney Levitt
I know that. I don't know if she was a nine, but he's a family friend.
[54:55]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[54:56]
Whitney Levitt
So, like, I know that she was really. I mean, there's a huge age gap, so I know that she was young and he was older, but I don't know exactly what the ages were when they, like, officially met for the first.
[55:05]
Amanda Hirsch
What can you say about this Marciano thing? And why weren't you in Italy?
[55:10]
Whitney Levitt
Because I didn't want to go.
[55:11]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, you were?
[55:11]
Whitney Levitt
No, this was after. Yeah. No, we were all were asked to go, but me, Macy, and Taylor decided not to go. Yeah.
[55:17]
Amanda Hirsch
Why? What was your reason?
[55:18]
Whitney Levitt
I just didn't want to. I was so tired.
[55:20]
Amanda Hirsch
Really?
[55:21]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. I just didn't want to.
[55:22]
Amanda Hirsch
But you're all about the views. Could have gotten more views.
[55:25]
Whitney Levitt
I guess so. But I'm grateful I didn't go now.
[55:28]
Amanda Hirsch
I know maybe you would have been like, something would have went down with you and Marcia. Oh, my gosh.
[55:32]
Whitney Levitt
Thank you.
[55:33]
Amanda Hirsch
Is he such a hot commode that everyone couldn't, like, be around him without getting into it?
[55:38]
Whitney Levitt
I don't know.
[55:39]
Amanda Hirsch
A fair rumor.
[55:40]
Whitney Levitt
I don't know. Like, maybe it was, like, the ambiance and the mood of being in Italy, Like, I don't know. But I'm really happy I didn't go with, like, everything that's happening right now.
[55:50]
Amanda Hirsch
What's the biggest, like, tea you heard from Vanderpump Villa, like, that you can share?
[55:57]
Whitney Levitt
I mean, we heard it at the end of season two.
[55:59]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. That's when I heard about Jesse and Marciano. Well, are you happy for your friend Demi that the heat was taken off her and Marciano?
[56:08]
Whitney Levitt
I mean, I don't know, because so much is happening online.
[56:10]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
[56:11]
Whitney Levitt
That ever. I think everyone's just really confused. They're like, what's going on?
[56:15]
Amanda Hirsch
We're gonna get clarity.
[56:16]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, we're gonna get clarity. And I'm really excited for when that happens, because I know everybody wants it.
[56:21]
Amanda Hirsch
Yes.
[56:21]
Whitney Levitt
Like, yesterday.
[56:22]
Amanda Hirsch
But does everyone hate Marciano now in the group? Yeah.
[56:26]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, yeah.
[56:27]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Because he's doing too much.
[56:29]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[56:29]
Amanda Hirsch
How the hell did he insert himself in mom talk? I have no idea. I vote to vote out Marciano.
[56:37]
Whitney Levitt
There we go.
[56:38]
Amanda Hirsch
From mom.
[56:39]
Whitney Levitt
I love it. Let's do it.
[56:40]
Amanda Hirsch
Has he even been to Utah?
[56:43]
Whitney Levitt
I think so. I don't know. I've never met him.
[56:46]
Amanda Hirsch
You've never met him?
[56:47]
Whitney Levitt
Never met him.
[56:48]
Amanda Hirsch
What about the season desist against Jen?
[56:51]
Whitney Levitt
Oh, well, never gave her one.
[56:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[56:53]
Whitney Levitt
I think, like, she had talked about it, but she never gave her one.
[56:55]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, okay.
[56:56]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[56:56]
Amanda Hirsch
So it's fake news. Kind of.
[56:58]
Whitney Levitt
Basically.
[57:00]
Amanda Hirsch
Do you think that Taylor really doesn't know how to be a friend, like a lot of you guys were saying?
[57:05]
Whitney Levitt
I think that Taylor has had a lot of problems in the past with relationships that she's, like, navigating in real time. And also, like. No, I don't think she knows how to be a friend right now because she has so much going on. Like, she has two baby daddies now. She's, like, just navigating this, like, being the star of this show. Like, she has a lot on her plate that. No, I don't think she knows how to do that right now.
[57:30]
Amanda Hirsch
If you had a reunion, like, Bravo style.
[57:33]
Whitney Levitt
Okay.
[57:33]
Amanda Hirsch
Who do you think, like, would get most of the heat?
[57:37]
Whitney Levitt
Me, always.
[57:38]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[57:39]
Whitney Levitt
They love giving me the hot seat.
[57:40]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[57:41]
Whitney Levitt
I don't know why. Yeah. Maybe I'm too reactionary. I need to, like, you need to get pregnant again.
[57:48]
Amanda Hirsch
Can you tell us anything you're filming now for season three? Yeah. Can you give us any scoop of loop? Ooh, we gotta. We got a little maybe baby mama, but, like. Okay.
[57:57]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[57:57]
Amanda Hirsch
What else?
[57:57]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, I think just. I just think it's gonna be different than any season and then one and two. Like, so different. So different. Like, even more of breaking the fourth wall, with which I think is really exciting. I love it. I think that because it is interesting, people want to know, like, the behind the scenes of the behind the scenes.
[58:17]
Amanda Hirsch
Right. Because we're not dumb dumbs. We don't pretend.
[58:19]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[58:20]
Amanda Hirsch
We all know. Yeah.
[58:21]
Whitney Levitt
So I think we're gonna see more of that.
[58:22]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
[58:23]
Whitney Levitt
And, yeah, I know, like, all of the Marciano stuff is gonna get answered for everyone.
[58:28]
Amanda Hirsch
So now that you're counting your macros, just a question I'm interested in. Yeah, you can drink the swigs.
[58:33]
Whitney Levitt
No, I do drink the swigs, but the swig that I drink is the base is a sparkling water. And then I add different purees. But the purees I add are, like, sugar free, so it's still delicious.
[58:42]
Amanda Hirsch
It's bad for you, but it's not fattening.
[58:44]
Whitney Levitt
No.
[58:45]
Amanda Hirsch
Got it.
[58:45]
Whitney Levitt
I still count it, but you still count it. Yeah.
[58:48]
Amanda Hirsch
You said you wanted to start acting.
[58:49]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[58:50]
Amanda Hirsch
Are you doing any, like, auditions?
[58:51]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah, I've had some really cool scripts come across my desk, which is really cool.
[58:55]
Amanda Hirsch
Across my desk.
[58:58]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[59:00]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Okay.
[59:01]
Whitney Levitt
I'm like, how do I cross my lap?
[59:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[59:03]
Whitney Levitt
Okay. And, yeah, I've been able to put myself on tape for some really cool roles, so I'm really grateful.
[59:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. And you said you watched Salt Lake Real Housewives?
[59:12]
Whitney Levitt
Yes.
[59:12]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Would you ever go on it?
[59:14]
Whitney Levitt
I mean. Oh, gosh, I don't know. Maybe.
[59:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, do you see this reality?
[59:20]
Whitney Levitt
Do something with Whitney. A little bit ago, we, like, did, like, a Heretic. Did you ever see Heretic with Hugh Grant?
[59:29]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, no. When he's like. He's like a villain. No, I didn't. Even though I love her.
[59:32]
Whitney Levitt
It's been really good. You need to see it.
[59:33]
Amanda Hirsch
It's really good.
[59:34]
Whitney Levitt
But we, like, host a premiere in Salt Lake.
[59:36]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, cool.
[59:36]
Whitney Levitt
She was a great time. She was so much fun. So, yeah, I mean, if it's a girls trip, I'll be there. I'll have some fun with them for sure.
[59:42]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, my God. I love it.
[59:44]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah.
[59:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay, well, that's all I got for you, my love.
[59:47]
Whitney Levitt
Thank you so much.
[59:47]
Amanda Hirsch
I'm so excited for season three. I hope it comes out quick because we are, too. That's the thing. Comes out all at once. Everyone binges and we're ready for more.
[59:56]
Whitney Levitt
I know.
[59:56]
Amanda Hirsch
And that's why they fucking run to TikTok and harass all of you. Yeah.
[60:00]
Whitney Levitt
Because that's real time. Like you're seeing on TikTok. And, like, we're playing catch up in the show.
[60:04]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
[60:05]
Whitney Levitt
Yeah. It's a lot. I know.
[60:06]
Amanda Hirsch
Well, I'm happy that you're not taking anything to heart.
[60:08]
Whitney Levitt
Thank you.
[60:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Give her the views, you guys.
[60:10]
Whitney Levitt
Give me the views.
[60:11]
Amanda Hirsch
She gets all the. No, but you're. I mean, you do them, you get them.
[60:14]
Whitney Levitt
Thank you.
[60:15]
Amanda Hirsch
And good for you.
[60:16]
Whitney Levitt
Thank you so much. Thank you for coming, Amanda. Thank you.
[60:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny But Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcast and write a little review. Review. If you tell me you did, I'll give you a big virtual smoocharoo. Thank you guys so much for listening, and I'll see you next Tuesday.
[60:48]
Whitney Levitt
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