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Episode: 'Freedom on the Sea' is a Biography of Robert Smalls – by His Great-Great-Grandson
Date: January 15, 2026
Host: Andrew Limbaugh
Guest: Michael Bulwer Moore (Author, great-great-grandson of Robert Smalls)
Interviewer: Anthony Brooks
Main Theme & Purpose
This episode centers on the remarkable life of Robert Smalls, born into slavery and later celebrated as a Civil War hero, pioneering politician, and advocate for public education. The conversation features Michael Bulwer Moore, Smalls’ great-great-grandson and author of Freedom on the Sea, discussing Smalls’ daring escape from slavery, his Civil War exploits, his lasting political impact, and the enduring lessons from his life.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Robert Smalls: A Life Lived to the Fullest (00:02)
- Host Andrew Limbaugh sets the stage, summarizing Smalls' astonishing journey: from enslaved man, to Confederate ship hijacker, Union naval captain, state legislator, education advocate, and U.S. Congressman.
Family Legacy & Early Awareness (02:43)
- Q: When did Moore learn about his connection to Smalls?
- A: The story was “not just part of my physical DNA, but my kind of cultural DNA.”
- Grew up surrounded by Smalls’ direct descendants, hearing his story at family reunions.
- “Just hearing about the story, hearing about his exploits in the Civil War... it has always been with me.” (03:04)
The Daring Escape on the Planter (03:32)
- Context: Charleston, South Carolina, 1862—Smalls, still enslaved, pilots the Confederate steamer Planter.
- Key Actions:
- Smalls observed Confederate officers leaving the ship unsupervised.
- He planned with other Black crew members to seize the opportunity.
- On May 12–13, 1862, they navigated through heavily fortified waters, using Smalls’ knowledge of secret passcodes and local waterways to bypass Confederate forts.
- Quote:
“He concocted a plan and was able to persuade the other African Americans on the crew... and they saw an opportunity and seized it.” (04:51)
Smalls’ Critical Role in the Civil War (05:06)
- After delivering the Planter to Union forces, Smalls became the first African American to command a US military vessel.
- Smalls met with Secretary of War Stanton and President Lincoln.
- Major Influence:
- Helped persuade Lincoln to enlist formerly enslaved men (about 200,000 joined the Union Army).
- Moore states, "Some historians suggest that the United States might not prevail in the Civil War without that influx..." (05:53)
From Enslavement to Congress: Political Legacy (06:23)
- Smalls used his reputation as a Civil War hero to enter politics during Reconstruction.
- Served in South Carolina’s legislature and U.S. Congress (five terms).
- Authored legislation to create the first statewide free public school system in the U.S., motivated by his own deprivation of education.
- Notable Insight: During the Civil War, Smalls was perhaps the "highest salaried Black man in America" due to his government pay, a stark contrast to ongoing Black enslavement. (07:44)
End of Reconstruction & Personal Disappointment (07:48)
- Smalls witnessed the backlash against Reconstruction and the advent of Jim Crow laws.
- Emotional Impact: Moore imagines that Smalls was “profoundly disappointed... gutted” by the rollback of civil rights progress.
- Famous Quote from Smalls:
“‘My race needs no special defense, for the past history of them in this country proves them to be the equal of anyone anywhere. All they need is an equal chance in the battle of life.’” (08:50)
Lessons for Today: Smalls’ Enduring Humanity (09:09)
- Moore recounts a story of Smalls caring for his former enslaver’s wife, inviting her to live in his house after she returned ill post-war.
- Moral Example:
- Instead of withholding compassion, Smalls treated her with dignity, showing forgiveness over bitterness.
- Moore draws a lesson for the present:
“I think if we can just reject all of the partisanship, the politicization of things and focus on those core human aspects that unite us all... there's something to that.” (10:17)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Not just my physical DNA, but my kind of cultural DNA...”
– Michael Bulwer Moore on family legacy (02:51) - “He concocted a plan and was able to persuade the other African Americans on the crew...”
– Moore, on Smalls’ leadership during the escape (03:52) - “The fact that, you know, Robert Smalls may have had a really heavy hand in the United States prevailing in the Civil War, it doesn't get much more impactful than that.”
– Moore (05:53) - “My race needs no special defense, for the past history of them in this country proves them to be the equal of anyone anywhere. All they need is an equal chance in the battle of life.”
– Robert Smalls, recounted by Moore (08:50) - “If we can just reject all of the partisanship... and focus on those core human aspects that unite us all as Americans, as human beings, I think there's something to that.”
– Moore (10:29)
Timed Segment Guide
- 00:02 – Episode/introduction to Robert Smalls’ story.
- 02:43 – Family legacy and Moore’s early exposure to Smalls’ history.
- 03:32 – Detailed recounting of the escape on the Planter.
- 05:06 – Civil War military contributions, meeting with Lincoln, recruitment of Black soldiers.
- 06:23 – Political career, founding of public education, highest-paid Black man in Civil War era.
- 07:48 – Aftermath of Reconstruction, Smalls' reaction to Jim Crow’s rise.
- 08:50 – Smalls' famous speech (equality and opportunity).
- 09:09 – Personal story of compassion, lessons for present-day America.
Conclusion
This episode offers a concise but rich look into the life of Robert Smalls, emphasizing both his historic achievements and his enduring humanity. Moore’s personal connection brings depth to the narrative, making Smalls’ journey resonate as both a uniquely American story and a timeless call for dignity, resilience, and unity.
