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De opera Die Passagierin gaat over daders en slachtoffers uit vernietigingskamp Auschwitz. Hoe leven zij verder met dat verleden? Joep Stapel recenseerde de opera voor NRC en het stuk raakte hem diep. Want dit verhaal van toen vertelt ook veel over nu.

Gast: Joep Stapel

Presentatie: Bram Endedijk

Redactie: David Weel

Montage: Lennart van Kasterop

Operafragmenten Die Passagierin: Nationale Opera & Ballet

Eindredactie: Nina van Hattum & Anna Korterink

Coördinatie: Ilse Eshuis

Productie: Rhea Stroink

Heb je vragen, suggesties of ideeën over onze journalistiek? Mail dan naar onze redactie via podcast@nrc.nl.

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