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Legal scholar Dr. Carol M. Swain joins Daniel K. Wiig to explore key questions in contemporary discussions about diversity, equity, and inclusion. The conversation begins by examining the original intent of the civil rights movement and the legal and social principles that shaped efforts to remove formal barriers to equality.

From there, the discussion moves to affirmative action and the evolution of DEI frameworks, considering how concepts of merit, integration, and assimilation have been understood over time. Dr. Swain and Daniel also discuss what a color blind society might look like and the different interpretations of that concept in law and society.

The episode emphasizes careful analysis of ideas, historical developments, and the implications of various approaches to race and inclusion, leaving listeners with a broader understanding of the issues.

Learn More About Dr. Carol M. Swain.

The views expressed here are those of the guest, and do not necessarily represent or reflect the views of NYCLA, its affiliates, its officers, or its Board.