Summary of "Full OCD Recovery: Third Stage Of OCD Recovery"

Podcast: OCD Recovery
Host: Ali Greymond
Date: January 22, 2026

Main Theme

In this episode, Ali Greymond discusses the third stage of OCD recovery, focusing on the potential pitfalls and the critical importance of continued effort even as anxiety significantly decreases. Drawing on her work with clients and her own experience, Ali emphasizes the difference between partial and full recovery, and encourages listeners to maintain their commitment until they reach true freedom from OCD.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Understanding the Third Stage (00:00)

• The third stage is characterized by a significant reduction in anxiety—clients who began at level 9 anxiety now find themselves at level 2 or 3.
• Ali Greymond:

  "The third stage of OCD recovery is when you are, let's say... clients started out level nine anxiety... and now the third stage level, let's say three anxiety, level two anxiety. That's the third stage."
  (00:03)

2. The Danger of Complacency

• At this stage, people often feel tempted to ease up on their recovery work because they “feel okay.”
• Ali warns that this is the most dangerous stage for slowing down, as OCD can return in full force during stress if not eradicated completely.
• Ali Greymond:

  "The biggest danger is that you might feel a drop in your effort to do recovery work. Basically, you're like, ah, I'm okay, I'm not bad. Everything is fine. Yeah, just, you know, level three anxiety, it's fine. I can live with this."
  (00:17)

3. The Goal: Full Recovery, Not Partial

• Ali unequivocally encourages listeners to strive for full recovery.
• She rejects the idea of living indefinitely at “level three anxiety,” highlighting the importance of eradicating compulsions and ruminations entirely.
• Ali Greymond:

  "We are team. Full recovery. We're not team. Let's keep OCD chronic at level three anxiety."
  (00:38)

• Living at a moderate anxiety level is not enough, because high stress can cause symptoms to return to their worst.
• Ali Greymond:

  “Yes, I could live like this... but I'm pushing for full recovery. So you cannot slow down on the recovery work just because you feel better, because you're not healed, and under a stressful situation, OCD can come back to level nine.”
  (00:52)

4. Relentless Effort Until Zero

• Listeners are advised to continue exposure work and resist all compulsions and avoidances, even when symptoms are minimal.
• The final objective:

  “Zero anxiety, zero rumination... zero compulsion, zero avoidances.”
  (01:13)

5. Staying Laser Focused

• The third stage requires ongoing vigilance and consistent recovery work—even when it feels less urgent.
• Ali stresses the importance of dedication and not becoming complacent at this penultimate stage.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On striving for complete freedom:

  "We are team. Full recovery. We're not team. Let's keep OCD chronic at level three anxiety." (00:38)

• On the risk of relapse:

  “You're not healed and under a stressful situation, OCD can come back to level nine.” (01:03)

• On the necessity of perseverance:

  "You have to keep pushing yourself even when you don't have to. That's the biggest thing in this third stage, is to keep going until you hit zero anxiety, zero rumination." (01:09)

• Final reminder:

  "Being really laser focused on it, even though you feel like you don't have to." (01:15)

Summary Flow

Ali Greymond outlines the third stage of OCD recovery with a compelling message: getting comfortable at “just okay” is not enough. She motivates listeners to maintain their recovery routines with full effort until all symptoms and compulsions vanish, warning that reduced diligence can lead to regression, especially during times of stress. Her tone is encouraging and no-nonsense, stressing full recovery as the only acceptable goal for her clients and audience.

Episode Length: ~2 minutes (excluding non-content sections)