Episode Overview

In this OCD Recovery podcast episode, Ali Greymond focuses on what she identifies as "the biggest lie OCD tells you"—the belief that obsessive thoughts, urges, or feelings will haunt you forever. Ali offers insight based on her personal experience and coaching, aiming to empower listeners to break the cycle of compulsions and rumination by recognizing this core OCD deception.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Core Lie: "This Will Never Go Away"

[00:10 - 02:00]

• Ali asserts that almost all cases of OCD are sustained by the recurring fear:

  "The biggest lie is that this thought, or in some people's cases, urge or feeling or image will last forever. I will have this when I'm 90. This will never go away." (Ali Greymond, 00:19)

• This belief compels sufferers to continue compulsions and rumination, trying desperately to rid themselves of the discomfort.
• She emphasizes that this is always a lie—no OCD thought is permanent, but the feeling of urgency is intentionally overwhelming.

2. OCD’s Repetitive Pattern

[02:01 - 03:20]

• Ali explains how OCD moves from one thought or "theme" to another, but always with the same emotional intensity and structure:

  "How many OCD thoughts have you had that just cycle from one to another to another, and every time it feels real, it will never go away." (01:02)

• The recognition of this repetitive nature is crucial for recovery—every new thought feels like the most real and permanent, even though it never is.

3. Finding Power in Recognition

[03:21 - 04:30]

• Ali encourages listeners to strengthen their awareness:

  "But you have to recognize that the chain. Right where the chain link of anxiety, it will never go away. You must do this, this, and this for it to go away. Because if you don't, it will never go away. And the more you recognize this, you start to gain power over it." (01:35)

• Forming this awareness helps reduce the terror and urgency of each obsessive thought, enabling a healthier, more distanced response.

4. Different Manifestations, One Pattern

[04:31 - 05:20]

• Whether OCD presents as recurring thoughts, images, feelings, or entirely new themes, the underlying message ("this will not go away unless you act") is always the same.

5. Practical Application & Mindset Shift

[05:21 - End]

• Ali reaffirms that recognizing the "permanence" illusion is essential:

  "So that very fact that you have the thought that this will not go away is OCD. It's a lie. Play this video as many times as you need to for it to seep into the subconscious that this is a lie. It just feels very real." (03:52)

• She suggests internalizing this truth, even jokingly talking back to OCD to lessen its hold:

  "Not till I'm 90 again. Okay, nice try then, right?" (04:08)

• The shift is reclaiming agency:

  "You start to play this game with OCD, rather than OCD playing a game with you." (04:13)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The biggest lie is that this thought ... will last forever. I will have this when I'm 90. This will never go away.” — Ali Greymond [00:19]
• "How many OCD thoughts have you had that just cycle from one to another ... every time it feels real, it will never go away." — Ali Greymond [01:02]
• "The more you recognize this, you start to gain power over it.” — Ali Greymond [01:35]
• “So that very fact that you have the thought that this will not go away is OCD. It's a lie. ... It just feels very real.” — Ali Greymond [03:52]
• “You start to play this game with OCD, rather than OCD playing a game with you.” — Ali Greymond [04:13]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:19] - Introduction of the biggest lie in OCD
• [01:02] - Description of the cycling nature of OCD thoughts
• [01:35] - How awareness weakens OCD’s power
• [03:52] - Importance of internalizing the lie/OCD’s trick
• [04:13] - Empowering mindset shift: playing the game back at OCD

Conclusion

Ali Greymond’s message in this episode is both compassionate and practical: recognize the recurring "permanence" lie of OCD, notice the pattern, and reclaim your agency. Her approach encourages both vigilance and self-compassion, reminding listeners that "it just feels very real"—but that feeling isn’t the truth.

For more support, listeners are directed to her recovery resources and individual sessions, as previewed at the end of the episode.