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Episode: New CFTC Chairman Michael Selig on How to Regulate Prediction Markets
Date: February 12, 2026
Hosts: Joe Weisenthal & Tracy Alloway
Guest: Mike Selig, Chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC)

Overview:

This episode delves into the rapid evolution of prediction markets and the regulatory challenges they pose. Hosts Joe and Tracy welcome newly appointed CFTC Chairman Mike Selig to discuss the agency’s emerging role in overseeing prediction markets, crypto, and new financial products. They explore both the technical and philosophical boundaries between speculation, betting, and legitimate financial risk management, especially as prediction markets become entangled with pop culture, politics, sports, and crypto.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Prediction Markets In Popular Culture

• Hosts kick off with the Super Bowl: Did Cardi B "perform" during the halftime show?
  • Dispute between Polymarket (says yes) and Kalshi (says no) underlines the ambiguous nature of prediction markets (02:05).
  • Joe notes, "Prediction markets are truly becoming part of pop culture and how we interact with it" (02:56).

2. Regulatory Shift—Explosion in Prediction Markets

• Tracy references how in 2022–2023, US-accessible markets were limited, but now platforms like Kalshi and Polymarket are widespread (03:51).
• Mike Selig:
  • “We’re really at a pivotal moment… so much innovation in that space with things like prediction markets and crypto.” (05:25)
  • Describes CFTC’s expanded role from futures to swaps to emerging digital assets.

3. Regulatory Architecture: Principles-Based, Not Rules-Based

• Exchanges are self-regulatory organizations with CFTC-approved rulebooks.
  • Selig: "Exchanges each have these rule books and certain requirements around how contracts are resolved and settled... we have a principles-based system of regulation." (07:17)

4. What Counts as a Commodity Under the Law?

• The definition of a "commodity" is extremely broad: “It includes virtually everything except a few things that have been carved out—onions and motion picture box office receipts.” (07:56)
• Selig emphasizes the CFTC's job is to ensure market integrity, not to dictate what contracts people trade (08:34).
  • “We're not telling people whether to trade pork bellies or Cardi B contracts or anything else.” (09:02)

5. Insider Trading & Market Integrity

• Tracy raises concerns about possible informational asymmetry, e.g. knowledge of Super Bowl ads (04:35).
• Selig:
  • Explains CFTC’s anti-fraud, anti-manipulation authorities closely mirror the SEC's.
  • “We survey all the markets, we collect data... we're a cop on the beat in that regard.” (09:28)

6. Skill vs. Chance: Distinguishing Prediction Markets from Gambling

• Debate over contracts like “What song will Bad Bunny perform first?” versus pure games of chance (12:45)
• Selig:
  • Makes clear there’s no act requirement for "merit-based" contracts, but recognizes the societal utility of information markets, e.g. elections (12:59).
  • "Prediction markets...produce a lot of useful information...A great example is the election in 2024...prediction markets got that right." (12:59)

7. Sports Betting vs. Financial Market Structure

• Distinguishes between organized exchanges and betting "against the house" (15:00–16:30).
• Selig discusses historical bucket shops vs. futures exchanges—markets are more robust today due to strict requirements (16:30).
  • “You’re betting against the house and...the odds of the bookie as opposed to here where the contracts go up and down in value based on actual market activity.” (16:30)
• On user experience: Even if structures are different, betting and futures can look very similar to a casual participant (18:21).

8. Younger Users and Age Restrictions

• Legal frameworks de facto allow 18-year-olds to trade on regulated exchanges versus 21+ in casinos, raising social and ethical concerns (19:13).
• Selig: “We’re not merit regulators. The rules are not different based on being sports or...anything else.” (19:29)

9. Enforcement & Resource Challenges

• Tracy references reports on CFTC staff shortages (20:34).
• Selig defends current staffing, highlights use of AI and new tech to help police fast-evolving markets (21:20, 22:36).
  • “We have adequate resources...we’re actually leveraging a lot of new technologies like AI” (21:20)

10. SEC–CFTC Consolidation and Coordination

• Longstanding debate over merging agencies.
• Selig:
  • Describes divergent missions (SEC: capital markets, CFTC: risk mitigation).
  • Focus on harmonization and coordination, not consolidation; mentions upcoming memorandum of understanding (23:21–25:44).
  • “What doesn’t make sense...is the lack of coordination between the agencies.” (23:21)

11. Advertising and Consumer Protection

• Discussion of aggressive marketing (e.g. Kalshi ads: "I got two years of rent through predictions") (27:59).
• Selig indicates current rulemaking may address these concerns, aiming for clearer, more consistent standards (29:00–29:56).
  • “We need clear rules of the road...not focus on these little patchwork no-action letters...” (29:56)

12. New Market Classifications and Regulatory Models

• Discussion of possible new classifications as lines blur between crypto, derivatives, betting, and prediction (31:20).
• Selig: “We need to think about that. We need to make sure there are consistent standards. We don’t want regulatory arbitrage.” (31:29)

13. Conflict of Interest Concerns—Political Influence

• Hosts ask about Trump family connections to major prediction markets (Truth Predict, Kalshi, Polymarket).
• Selig insists on strict adherence to ethics rules and CEA statutes (33:54, 34:49).

14. Crypto Industry—Future Regulation and U.S. Positioning

• Status of the Clarity Act for digital assets (35:31).
• Selig: “We can’t allow European countries and others to lead in this area without U.S. involvement.” (35:31)
• Discussion on innovative products like perpetual futures and their potential spread beyond crypto (36:33).

15. Moral and Social Boundaries in Market Contracts

• Should there be red lines for contracts (e.g., on deaths, violence, contracts that influence real-world behavior)? (38:20)
• Selig: CFTC has discretion to prohibit contracts susceptible to manipulation or morally problematic, e.g., assassination. (39:05)

16. State vs. Federal Authority—Regulatory Tension

• Some states see prediction markets as gambling, potentially undermining state-level autonomy and age restrictions (39:37).
• Selig:
  • “Derivatives markets are a separate area…rules and requirements…are very different” from state gambling law. (45:52)
• On the age question: “I think that’s a question for society and for Congress….not really for the regulator to decide.” (41:24)

17. CFTC Hiring: Competing with Private Sector

• Selig discusses the CFTC’s mission-driven hiring, use of AI, and its appeal despite lower compensation than private firms (42:45–44:32).

18. Congress and Prediction Market Advertising

• Should Congress step in to set market advertising rules? Selig: It may make sense for age limits or broad rules, but not for nuanced regulatory details (44:49).

Notable Quotes

• On the CFTC's role:
  "We don't tell people what they should be entering into contracts on. We create rules and regulations...to make sure they have integrity, they're resilient, vibrant, and have guardrails and investor protections."
  —Mike Selig, 08:34

• On prediction market information value:
  "With a lot of these information markets, these prediction markets, where they're forecasting a potential outcome in the future, they produce a lot of useful information...a great example is the election in 2024..."
  —Mike Selig, 12:59

• On coordination vs. consolidation of regulators:
  "It's coordination, not consolidation. We need to harmonize the two regimes...there's not gaps."
  —Mike Selig, 23:21

• On age restrictions and paternalism:
  "I think that's a question for society as a whole and for Congress...we allow 18-plus in our financial markets and there's responsibility associated with that."
  —Mike Selig, 41:24

• On marketing standards for prediction markets:
  "We want to set clear standards, we want stakeholders at the table...I'm not one necessarily to say what the marketing should look like, but we're certainly thinking about that."
  —Mike Selig, 29:56

• On the future of U.S. crypto regulation:
  "We can't allow European countries and others to lead in this area without U.S. involvement...we're committed to getting that done."
  —Mike Selig, 35:31

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:56 – How prediction markets are now embedded in pop culture.
• 05:25 – Selig on CFTC’s current priorities and emerging markets.
• 07:17 – How prediction "prop bets" are regulated as financial instruments.
• 09:28 – Discussion of insider trading in prediction markets.
• 16:30 – Selig contrasts regulated derivatives markets with gambling/bookmaking.
• 18:21 – Discussion of user perspective: Is sports futures trading just betting?
• 19:13 – De facto lowering of age requirements for trading sports outcomes.
• 21:20 – CFTC staffing, use of technology for market oversight.
• 23:21-25:44 – SEC/CFTC coordination, not consolidation.
• 27:59 – Aggressive and potentially problematic advertising strategies.
• 29:56 – Need for updated, consistent regulatory frameworks.
• 33:54 – Trump family involvement and conflict-of-interest questions.
• 35:31 – Status and importance of the Clarity Act in crypto regulation.
• 38:20/39:05 – Moral line-drawing and contract limits: manipulation, violence, real-world actions.
• 39:37/41:24 – State vs. federal powers and the youth betting debate.
• 42:45/44:32 – CFTC hiring and competition with private sector.
• 44:49/45:52 – Congressional versus regulatory authority on advertising and age restrictions.

Memorable Moments

• Ongoing ambiguity over what constitutes a "performance" in pop culture prediction markets (02:05).
• Selig’s light sarcasm when asked if the CFTC is devoting resources to adjudicate the “Cardi B performed” dispute (06:17).
• Transparency about political conflicts and family ties in the industry (33:25, 33:54).
• Hosts’ closing reflections: the deeper philosophical divide between state moral codes and the CFTC’s market-oriented regulatory approach (47:55–49:07).

Tone & Language

The episode maintains a conversational, good-humored, and accessible tone, balancing regulatory detail with pop culture and real-world examples. Both hosts and the guest are candid, occasionally irreverent, and open to debate.

Summary for New Listeners

This episode is essential for anyone interested in the intersection of finance, betting, and regulation. It explains why prediction markets are now mainstream, unpacks regulatory boundaries, touches on the social and political implications, and provides a rare inside look at how the nation's top commodities regulator is adapting to the most controversial and significant structural changes in financial markets in decades.