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Episode: Why America's Cattle Ranchers Keep Getting Squeezed
Date: November 22, 2025
Hosts: Tracy Alloway, Joe Weisenthal
Guest: Bill Bullard, CEO of R-CALF USA

Overview

This episode investigates the economics, structure, and challenges facing American cattle ranchers amid surging beef prices and increased market concentration. Hosts Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway are joined by Bill Bullard (CEO, R-CALF USA) to explore why, despite high retail beef prices, many ranchers are struggling and leaving the industry. The discussion covers industry consolidation, market dysfunction, input costs, trade policy, the influence of corporate entrants like Walmart, and the implications for both consumers and rural America.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

Beef Prices: Why So High?

• Recent Price Spikes: Consumers face significantly higher beef prices. Prices have more than doubled over the past decade while supply has contracted.
  • “The price of ground beef… has like, tripled since 2010. It was like $4 around the pandemic. Now it’s over $6.” – Joe Weisenthal [03:31]
• Cattle Price Dynamics: In 2024, a long-awaited positive relationship has returned: cattle prices are rising with beef prices, reversing years where ranchers missed out on higher retail pricing.
  • “We now have a positive relationship between the price of beef and the price of cattle.” – Bill Bullard [04:48]

Historical Industry Shifts and Concentration

• Major Consolidation: Since 1980, the number of cattle operations has fallen by 52%, and just four packers now control 80% of the beef market (up from 36%).
  • Dysfunctional Market: The share of the consumer beef dollar going to ranchers has dropped from 60% to less than 40%. Now, retailers and packers enjoy the majority.
  • “How could the competitive forces...completely reverse the allocation of the consumer dollar?... The answer...It can’t.” – Bill Bullard [06:41]
• Impact: Such concentration has allowed packers/retailers to keep producer prices low, regardless of retail trends. Imports further erode ranchers’ ability to compete and expand.

Imports and Trade Policy

• Beef Imports: The US now imports record volumes of beef, with 22% of beef consumed being imported as of 2024.
• Indistinguishable Imports: Imported beef is not labeled by origin, so consumers can’t distinguish or choose US product—even if they would pay more.
  • “Consumers can’t tell if the beef they’re buying is foreign beef or domestic beef.” – Bill Bullard [13:53]
• Trade Policy Recommendations:
  • Bullard advocates for tariffs or quotas on countries with beef surpluses against the US (e.g., Brazil, Argentina) to create fairer conditions for domestic producers.
  • Bullard also urges mandatory country-of-origin labeling.

Supply, Demand, and Input Costs

• Biological Time Lag: It takes three years to ramp up cattle supply after price signals, due to breeding and growth cycles.
• Input Cost Squeeze:
  • Ranchers face rising costs (land, feed, labor, fuel, fertility) that further squeeze margins, made harder because producers are “price takers.”
  • “Cattle producers do not set the price of beef. The price of beef is set by the packers and the retailers...” – Bill Bullard [13:53]
• Recent Droughts: Ongoing droughts have caused further herd liquidations, compounding the supply shortage.

Industry Structure: Vertical Integration and “Chickenization”

• Walmart’s Entry: Walmart is vertically integrating into the beef supply, dictating genetics and production methods—mirroring what happened in the poultry (“chickenization”) and pork sectors.
  • The concern: Large corporate entrants can further erode independent family ranchers through control and pricing systems like the “tournament system.”
  • “The cattle industry is the last frontier...we’re trying to prevent the chickenization of our cattle industry... Walmart wants to lock up this segment and eliminate cattle producers.” – Bill Bullard [28:15]

Barriers to New Entrants and Rural Impact

• Impossible for Small Meat Packers?: New processors struggle to access lucrative retail shelf space, which is locked up via contracts with major packers and retailers.
  • “How are you going to market your beef?... Even if they’re marketing a high quality product, they’re marketing into a commodity structured marketplace. The advantage falls to the meat packers.” – Bill Bullard [39:48]
• Rural America At Risk: As vertical integration and concentration expand, rural communities lose independent ranchers, echoing the decline seen in the poultry and pork industries.

Generational and Future Ranching Challenges

• Aging Ranchers: The average rancher/farmer age is now over 58; many are not encouraging their children to remain in the industry due to volatility and low returns.
  • “Their children have watched. They’ve encouraged their children to do something else other than to ranch.” – Bill Bullard [24:38]
• Delayed/Absent Reinvestment: Ranchers, once burned by price collapses (notably 2014-15), are hesitant to expand herds even when prices rise, fearing another bust.

Consumer Impact and Public Policy

• Who Benefits from Current Trends?
  • High concentration/vertical integration and undifferentiated imports keep retail prices high and reduce producer share—without passing savings to consumers.
  • “There’s no price saving for the consumer because the packers and the retailers will price it identical...They pocket the increased profitability of buying low and selling high.” – Bill Bullard [38:05]
• Country-of-origin labeling could empower consumers to choose, and possibly support domestic ranchers.

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Market Dysfunction:
  • “How in a competitive market could that have happened? ...It can’t.” – Bill Bullard, on the reversal of the beef dollar allocation [06:41]
• On Corporate Influence:
  • “The cattle industry is the last frontier for these major global meatpackers... We’re trying to prevent the chickenization of our cattle industry. But…the reason Walmart’s getting into it is because it’s profitable.” [28:15]
• On the Realities of Ranching:
  • “Cattle producers do not set the price of beef... The producer is a price taker.” [13:53]
• On Generational Decline:
  • “Their children have watched. They’ve encouraged their children to do something else other than to ranch. And that’s a huge problem.” [24:38]
• On Imports and Traceability:
  • “There is no country of origin label on the imported beef product. So consumers can’t choose to support the domestic supply chain versus the foreign supply chain.” [34:25]

Timestamps for Major Segments

• [03:31] – How much beef can you buy with an hour’s work?
• [04:48] – Bullard explains the linkage (and disconnect) between beef and cattle prices
• [06:41] – Historical context: industry consolidation and reversal of beef dollar allocation
• [11:04] – Role of drought and input costs
• [13:53] – Beef imports and product indistinguishability
• [18:13] – Intersection of beef and dairy industry
• [21:24] – Lax antitrust enforcement and “merger mania”
• [24:38] – The aging rancher demographic and generational exodus
• [28:15] – Walmart and vertical integration (“chickenization”)
• [34:25] – How policies and trade affect ranchers and import trends
• [39:48] – Barriers to new processors and sustained concentration
• [41:50] – Secular demand for animal protein
• [44:59] – Hosts reflect on consumer angle, country-of-origin labels, and US food capacity

Style and Tone

• Joe Weisenthal: Inquisitive, analytical, enthusiastic about economics and markets ("Beef is the best food there is in the entire world. I truly believe that." [01:56])
• Tracy Alloway: Balanced, occasionally playful, detail-oriented, situates beef in broader food/ag debates (“Can I start a beef processing plant? Why can’t I go into it …?” [39:36])
• Bill Bullard: Knowledgeable, passionate advocate for independent ranchers, direct in his criticisms of concentration, imports, and policy failures.

Takeaways

• Systemic structural forces—market concentration, unchecked imports, and vertical integration—have rendered American cattle ranching increasingly unprofitable for independents, despite high consumer prices.
• Antitrust enforcement and trade restrictions could alter the playing field, but trends may further hollow out rural America if unchecked.
• Consumer choice is blunted by the lack of country-of-origin labeling for beef; more transparency could influence the domestic industry’s survival.
• The "chickenization" of beef mirrors what happened to poultry and pork and could further diminish independent ranchers’ roles, to the detriment of diverse rural economies.
• Current trends risk not only rancher livelihoods but also the nation’s domestic food security as beef imports outpace production expansion.