Kate Winslet (Christmas Special)

Summary

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Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster

Christmas Special with Kate Winslet
Release Date: December 17, 2025
Episode Theme:
Ed Gamble and James Acaster welcome acclaimed actor Kate Winslet to the Off Menu dream restaurant for a festive, food-fuelled chat. The episode revolves around Winslet’s dream menu, with detours into Christmas rituals, directing her first feature film (Goodbye June), and navigating fame. Expect laughter, cozy nostalgia, and behind-the-scenes stories from Winslet’s iconic career.

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Main Theme & Purpose

The Christmas Special episode delights in bringing Hollywood royalty Kate Winslet into the magical world of Off Menu. As per the tradition, Winslet shares her ultimate dream meal—course by course—while Ed and James sprinkle in Christmas warmth, culinary nostalgia, and cheeky references to her filmography (especially Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and The Holiday). The episode also provides a heartfelt look at Winslet's directorial debut, Goodbye June, and her reflections on family, loss, and the rituals that make the holidays meaningful.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Off Menu Christmas Rituals and Winslet’s Arrival

• Excitement for the Guest: Ed and James are visibly giddy about meeting Winslet, with James keen to avoid turning the episode into an Eternal Sunshine megafan monologue—and failing gloriously later on.
  • “Man, this podcast has got out of hand. Winslet's agreeing to come on!” – Ed (06:31)

2. Kate Winslet: Directorial Debut & Family Legacy

• Directing Goodbye June (14:14–18:45):
  • Winslet discusses her first film as a director, describing it as a warm, real, humorous family drama rooted in personal loss:

    “It’s less about a woman who's sort of slipping away and much more about a family coming together because of that event. … We all have to deal with loss at some point in our lives. … And actually, I think in this country we're not very good at dealing with it and talking about that stuff.” — Kate (14:22–15:34)

  • The film was inspired by her son's experience of losing his grandmother; her son also wrote the screenplay.
  • Winslet details her approach to directing children, encouraging natural play and improvisation:

    “You can’t really teach a child how to act. … you just encourage them to be.” (18:52)

  • She negotiated a cast packed with “national treasures,” including Helen Mirren—who was seamlessly integrated into the film’s family dynamic through playful method.

3. Navigating Typecasting & Breaking Molds

• Winslet reflects on being pigeonholed after period dramas (“Corset Kate”), and how Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind helped her break free from early career labels (12:16):
  • “Something that helped me move beyond that was Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. … That whole experience … was so amazing. Michel Gondry, who directed, just avant garde and funny and bonkers … a great experience.” — Kate

4. Food, Memories, and Comfort

Still or Sparkling? (24:13)

• Winslet unwaveringly chooses still water, preferably tap—ideally from Cornwall:
  • “I do usually go tap just because I don't like plastic or even glass wastage if you don't have to have it.” — Kate (25:11)

Bread: “Warm, Crusty Bread and Breadsticks, with Thick Butter” (26:26)

• Winslet’s love for bread is visceral (“Cheddar-thick” butter preferred) and deeply nostalgic, recalling modest family road trips to France and “biting the end off” baguettes before paying (28:04).

Dream Starter: Giorgio Locatelli’s Truffle Pasta

• A standout story: Neighbors Giorgio and Plaxy Locatelli (before his celebrity chef stardom) secretly delivered freshly made truffle pasta and wine over a wall during her post-Titanic housebound fame (29:13):

  “There on the wall was a steaming bowl of the most beautiful, delicious linguine with truffle and a glass of red wine. And I felt fitter for things, let me tell you, and I have never ever forgotten it.” — Kate (30:57)

Main Course: Christmas Dinner (37:14)

• Unashamedly, her dream meal is classic Christmas dinner. Key components:
  • Brined turkey, her mum’s legendary roast potatoes, red cabbage (made to her late mother’s recipe), all the trimmings.
    • “Every year I make it to my mum’s recipe and every year I cry because of the smell.” — Kate (37:57)
  • On celebrity guests: Christmas is strictly family — no visits from Jack Black or the Holiday cast (40:33).
  • On leftovers: Favors a huge vegetable and turkey soup made with homemade stock (47:34).

Pies and Grandmother’s Pastry (43:37)

• Winslet loves a pie, with emphasis on the pastry over the filling, connecting it to fond memories of her grandmother’s five-chip Friday fish-and-chip ritual (45:16).

Sides: Oysters

• Small oysters (“the little ones”) and a pair of sparkling anecdotes:
  1. First oyster offered by Paul Newman at a small New York dinner (51:06).
     • “I thought, if I eat this oyster, I will always be able to say, Paul Newman gave me my first oyster.” (51:25)
  2. Early in her romance with now-husband Ned, she shucked oysters for them both in Chelsea Market, New York (52:28):
     • “If I was on an early date with someone, they were like, ‘I'm going to shuck you an oyster’, I'd be like, right, we're getting married.” — Ed (53:35)

Drink: Champagne (55:41)

• Winslet’s indulgence is a classic glass of champagne — not Prosecco — and is fuss-free about the glassware:
  • “It could be a clean jam jar… a plastic picnic cup. Don't mind about that.” (57:19)

Dessert: Her Own Apple Crumble with Cornish Clotted Cream (66:10)

• Winslet bakes the crumble topping separately for maximum crunch; she prefers hers with cream, partner Ned with custard.
• Also makes a decadent bread & butter pudding using leftover donuts or panettone (71:07).
  • “Every spoonful you’re getting, like, you might get a different flavor donut.” — Ed (72:54)

Cheese Chat

• Runner-up dessert: cheese board. Endorses mature cheddar and offers a shout-out to Sussex Charmer; reminisces about working the cheese counter at a delicatessen (68:23–69:56).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On breaking free from typecasting:
  “It’s bizarre… people do like to pigeonhole actresses… Weird corset Kate. Doesn’t make any sense.” — Kate (11:38)
• On Christmas and loss:
  “There’s something about the kind of messy navigation that this family…has to process.” — Kate (14:22)
• On practical meal choices:
  “My dream main course really would be Christmas dinner… My mum used to make the best roast potatoes.” (37:14)
• On pie etiquette:
  “When people eat a pie and they leave the crust, I just think, well, it’s crazy. Are you mad?” — Kate (43:56)
• On first oyster with Paul Newman:
  “Paul Newman gave me my first oyster. And…I loved it.” — Kate (51:58)
• On her bread and butter pudding:
  “Rather than going with actual bread, I will try and find some sort of cake… My kids do say, 'Mum, you’re gonna have to show me how to do it.'” — Kate (71:34)

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Important Timestamps

• Introduction/Banter: 04:36–09:02
• Kate’s Arrival & Discussing Acting/Loss: 09:14–15:34
• Directing Goodbye June: 14:14–22:09
• Off Menu Format (Still or Sparkling, Bread): 24:13–28:51
• Starter (Truffle Pasta Story): 29:13–32:57
• Main Course (Christmas Dinner): 37:14–43:35
• Pies, Family, and Sides: 43:37–47:55
• Oysters and Paul Newman: 50:23–53:54
• Drink & Glassware Debates: 55:37–58:53
• Eternal Sunshine/Film Chat: 62:23–64:46
• Dessert (Apple Crumble, Bread & Butter Pudding): 66:10–73:13
• Cheese & Deli Stories: 68:13–70:55
• Wrap-Up & Christmas Spirit: 75:08–78:48

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Summary Table: Kate Winslet’s Dream Menu

| Course | Dish | Notes/Stories | |----------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Water | Still, tap (preferably Cornwall) | Environmental focus; rumors of “tin” in Cornish water | | Bread | Warm, crusty bread + breadsticks | Butter “as thick as cheddar”; nostalgia for French baguettes | | Starter | Truffle pasta (with lots of Parmesan) | Delivered by neighbor Giorgio Locatelli after Titanic fame, eaten off the wall | | Main | Brined turkey, roast potatoes (mum’s recipe), red cabbage (mum’s), bread sauce | Family rituals, emotional connections, no celeb guests | | Side/Pie | Chicken and veg pie (with extra pastry), vegan Wellington | Grandma’s pastry, pastry > filling, vegan options for husband | | Other Side | Oysters (small) | First oyster courtesy of Paul Newman; shucking for husband Ned on early date | | Dessert | Apple crumble (with baked topping), Cornish clotted cream | Bakes topping separately; partner prefers custard | | Bonus | Bread & butter pudding (using leftover donuts/panettone/cake) | Family favorite, decadent, originated in Vancouver | | Drink | Champagne (any glass) | Not picky, not a fan of prosecco | | Cheese | Sussex Charmer, mature cheddar, various French cheeses | Worked deli counter in youth, loves a proper cheese board |

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Tone & Atmosphere

The episode is warm, festive, and nostalgic—a blend of Off Menu’s trademark irreverent humor (James’ and Ed’s banter and quick asides) and the comforting intimacy of Winslet’s stories. It feels like sitting at a family Christmas table, sharing laughter, memories, and delicious food, with cinematic anecdotes thrown in for good measure.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

• Expect a cozy, laugh-out-loud festive chat, with Kate Winslet championing family rituals and simple pleasures over Hollywood glitz.
• You’ll hear behind-the-scenes stories from her career (Eternal Sunshine, working with Paul Newman, etc.) and discover her approach to food as a tool for connection and comfort.
• Her dream meal is a love letter to British Christmas traditions, with a gourmet Italian starter and oysters as a nod to the global, celebratory nature of food.

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Final Word

“It's been fantastic. Thank you so much for coming to the Dream Restaurant, Kate, and Merry Christmas!” — Ed Gamble (77:45)

Transcript

[Ed Gamble]

On off menu we always ask guests the big question, James.

[James Acaster]

Still or sparkling?

[Ed Gamble]

That's the biggest question on the pod. But imagine if the answer was just neither. No water at all. Well, WaterAid have asked us to imagine a Christmas dinner without water, a shrivelled up turkey, sprouts that turn into stones and no gravy.

[James Acaster]

It would be a full on gravypocalypse out there. That wouldn't be dinner. It would be a goddamn culinary catastrophe.

[Ed Gamble]

And that's the point, James. Everything at Christmas and all year starts with water. But 1 in 10 people around the world don't have clean. You can change that. Donate [e-mail] because change starts with water.

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[Kate Winslet]

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[Kate Winslet]

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[Kate Winslet]

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[Kate Winslet]

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[James Acaster]

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[Ed Gamble]

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[Ed Gamble]

Welcome to the Off Menu podcast. Taking the ginger biscuits of conversation, leaving them on the fireplace hearth of humor and awaiting the Santa of friendship. Santa's gonna eat some biscuits. Leave some biscuits out for Santa. James, what do you leave out for Santa, man?

[James Acaster]

That's it, Campbell. My name is James, a cousin. Together we only drink chat.

[Ed Gamble]

Good chat. What'd you leave out for Santa?

[James Acaster]

And every single year, Every single year.

[Ed Gamble]

What'D you leave out of Santa?

[James Acaster]

Every week we Invite in a guest and we.

[Ed Gamble]

Every single favor ever. No, Every single year, we invite a guest in to ask them about their Christmas menu.

[James Acaster]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

So you were right.

[James Acaster]

And we asked for their favorite ever start and main course, dessert side dish, drink and Christmas dinner.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

Not in that order.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And this week, this year.

[Ed Gamble]

He's had a nightmare. He's too excited.

[James Acaster]

I am. Because our guest is Kate Winslet.

[Ed Gamble]

Sunny Kate Winslet.

[James Acaster]

Holy moly.

[Ed Gamble]

Holy moly. Man, this podcast has got out of hand. Winslet's agreeing to come on add Kate.

[James Acaster]

Winslet to the list of people we thought we'd never, ever meet, let alone interview.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. I can't wait.

[James Acaster]

What is going on? Yeah, I'm happy.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm a happy guy. You're too happy. And I'm. Look, listeners to this podcast will know that your favorite film, is it fair to say.

[James Acaster]

Yep.

[Ed Gamble]

Is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

[James Acaster]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

So I'm worried because we've got the star of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind coming in. Yeah. And we've got to ask Kate her dream menu. We've got to ask her about her Christmas. We've got to do all of this. And I'm worried that you're gonna try and make this a podcast. It's exclusively about eternals.

[James Acaster]

No, brother, I'm a professional. You know I am. I'm gonna stick to the format.

[Ed Gamble]

I don't believe you.

[James Acaster]

When we've had actors on before, I don't bring up their stuff.

[Ed Gamble]

That's all you do.

[James Acaster]

I try.

[Ed Gamble]

That's fine. It's fine to bring up their stuff.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Kate's got an incredible CV of amazing things that she's been involved. But I'm worried you're gonna over focus on one thing. What?

[James Acaster]

Turn us on transport.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

It's Christmas, you know.

[Ed Gamble]

Cause we've got to talk to Kate about food, because that's what the podcast is. And we've got to talk to Kate about her new film, her directorial debut.

[James Acaster]

Goodbye June, which is in cinemas now. Of course.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

And on Netflix on Christmas eve.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Netflix December 24th, which colloquially known as Christmas Eve, just in case people don't know.

[James Acaster]

If I say Christmas Eve, people wouldn't know when that is.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, well, you never know. The cast list of Goodbye June reads like if you were putting together a football team for all the greatest actors in Britain. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Well, it's like if someone read out the cast as it was, like, just. These are the nominations for best actors this year.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

You'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.

[Ed Gamble]

Toni Collette, Johnny Flynn, Andrea Riseborough, Timothy Spall, Kate Winslet and Helen Mirren. And then you're looking at other. Other cast members. Stephen Merchant, heard of him just popping up. He's not being on the part.

[James Acaster]

Jamie Swift. That's Higgins.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, Higgins.

[James Acaster]

Higgins is. Higgins is in this.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Emmy nominated Higgins.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Yeah. That's fun.

[Ed Gamble]

That's crazy, man. You can also watch this podcast on YouTube. Why wouldn't you?

[James Acaster]

No one's gonna stop you.

[Ed Gamble]

No one's gonna stop you. Watch it on YouTube, listen to it. Just do as many things as you can.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You won't hear this bit on YouTube, though.

[James Acaster]

No, that'd be crazy. Here's the thing, Ed. We're excited that Kate Winslet's on the podcast. We're excited to talk about Goodbye June. But, yeah, if Kate Winslet.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Says a secret ingredient.

[Ed Gamble]

No.

[James Acaster]

An ingredient which we deem to be unacceptable.

[Ed Gamble]

I don't want to do it this time.

[James Acaster]

We will have to kick her out of the dream.

[Ed Gamble]

I don't want to do it.

[James Acaster]

I'm afraid that that is how it works.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, man. But what's the secret ingredient gonna be?

[James Acaster]

Clementine. Because that's her character's name in Eternal Sunshine.

[Ed Gamble]

Stop it.

[James Acaster]

That's a.

[Ed Gamble]

Calm down.

[James Acaster]

I won't speak about it again unless she brings up. That's. That's the deal.

[Ed Gamble]

No, I think even if she brings it up, you should say we're not allowed to talk about that.

[James Acaster]

Oh, come on.

[Ed Gamble]

Look, we are so. I don't know if you've worked it out. We're so excited to have Kate Winslet on the podcast.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Just beyond excited. It's crazy.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Ed's moved his flight.

[Ed Gamble]

I've moved my flight to Bergen.

[James Acaster]

Of course it's excited. I would move.

[Ed Gamble]

I'd. You know, I'd move heaven and earth to interview Kate Winslet.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. I'm very excited about this. Said this is. It's going to be dream come dream come true.

[Ed Gamble]

Right. Well, let's get her on the pod. This is the off menu menu. Okay.

[James Acaster]

Winslet.

[Ed Gamble]

Welcome Kate to the Dream Restaurant.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, it's very nice.

[James Acaster]

Welcome Kate wins it to the Dream Restaurant. But it's been a year for some time. Kate. My throat is, like, knackered and I was really worried about doing that bit and I've got to shout again later on.

[Kate Winslet]

Have you.

[James Acaster]

You must have good, like, throat tips as.

[Kate Winslet]

Like a. Throat tips.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I don't think actors call that. Call it throat tips.

[Kate Winslet]

I don't know if they do call it throat tips, but then what would we call it? Training. I didn't have any training.

[Ed Gamble]

Vocal. Vocal training?

[Kate Winslet]

No, I've never done any of that. I've never done any of that stuff. You just sort of make it up as you go along.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah. Look after your voice. What if you're doing a film and your voice goes like this? You must be like, I need some lemon sugar.

[Kate Winslet]

I just don't know. I mean, I wish I could tell you that I had all these like, clever things I do, but I really. I really don't.

[Ed Gamble]

You just make it part of the character.

[Kate Winslet]

You sort of have to just kind of. Yeah. You just have to kind of go with the flow. I don't know. I mean, you have to look after yourself because the hours are really intensely long. But not shouting at people always helps. And I certainly don't do any of that, so.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, that's good. Yeah, that's good to hear.

[James Acaster]

What of all your roles is the most amount of shouting you had to do on camera?

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, my God. So. So I played. I played a character called Elena Vernon, and she was a sort of a fictional chancellor in a fictional country. And she was pretty vile and she did a lot of screaming at people. Yeah. So that was pretty hilarious. I actually did kind of quite love it as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

What was the film?

[Kate Winslet]

It was a TV series for HBO called the Regime. And it was a. It was my. My foray into comedy and I just absolutely loved it. She was outrageous and vile and, you know, treated people very badly.

[Ed Gamble]

It's nice to have a sort of sanctioned reason to do that. Right. You can just have a good old scream at people.

[Kate Winslet]

Well, I've never really played a character like that.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

And I just thought, well, yeah, this is something new. I like to kind of mix it up and take risks and do things that might be a little bit unexpected. Hopefully, you know.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Gotta stay in the game. Keep getting invited back to the party. So hopefully, hopefully that will continue. Cause I do love it.

[James Acaster]

It's crazy. Cause in the really early. So yesterday, just coincidentally, there was this thing came up on my algorithm of James Cameron talking about all of his films. And he talked about casting you in Titanic and the whole Corset Cape thing before that, which I didn't know about that. Cause for me now that seems bananas. Bananas that you would have been called that or that. Cause you've done so many different things. It was the first time I'd heard it.

[Kate Winslet]

Well, people do like Lab, I think, you know, Starting out in some of those great early things, I was able to do, like Sense and Sensibility and things like that. Yeah. People do like to sort of pigeonhole actresses, and they don't really like it if you step outside of that framework that they have chosen that you're going to exist in. And so. So no, I'm. Yeah. Weird corset, Kate. Doesn't make any sense.

[James Acaster]

And you were so young at the time. This is. I think there's a lot of jealousy from other people probably giving you a nickname like that. But then, like, probably. I just think, like, for me, you're just someone who's always done so many different things that it's really weird to watch that and go, like, when did that happen?

[Kate Winslet]

I know, it's bizarre. I think something that helped me kind of move beyond that was Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Which I remember thinking, okay, this is. Okay, this. This could be good. I could be. I could be stepping outside of that and, you know, doing something completely wild and different. And that whole experience, actually, of making Eternal Sunshine was so amazing. I mean, Michel Gondry, who directed just avant garde and funny and bonkers, and it was a great experience. I loved playing that character.

[James Acaster]

There's a lot of improvisation in that film.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm glad you've brought this film up, Kate, because I had to message James when we confirmed that you were coming in and say, don't only talk about Eternal Sunshine in the Spotless Mind, because he will talk about it for a whole episode with a guest who's not been involved in the film at all.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, it is a good one. Why? He's gone quiet.

[Ed Gamble]

He's excited. He can't wait.

[James Acaster]

He's my favorite.

[Kate Winslet]

We can talk about it as much. Talking about it. I mean, it was. It was an amazing shoot. And yes, there was a lot of improvising. I remember there was one night when I was at home asleep, and it was 2 o' clock in the morning, and the phone rang and it was Michel Gondry. And he was like, you have to come. You have to come. I said, what are you talking about? He said, there is. This circus is coming into town and they have all this elephant. All these elephants, they are coming down Fifth Avenue. You have to come. I said, okay, okay. When are we doing that? He said, now. It's happening now. Right now. You have to get in the cab and you have to. I was like, oh, my God. And of course, you get in a cab and of course you turn up and then improvise. An entire scene with a load of elephants coming down Fifth Avenue. And it was. It was really amazing. And that's one of the lovely things about making films, is that sometimes you do get to work with people who are brave enough to do these kind of crazy things.

[Ed Gamble]

I thank God it was a great film. Right. Because imagine it was just a crazy guy and the film was awful.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Like, get up at 2 o', clock, come and improvise with these elephants.

[Kate Winslet]

I know that you watch it.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

It was all a bit of a. It was all a bit of a mad risk. But, you know, that's what life's about, I think, isn't it?

[James Acaster]

Well, let's talk about your latest film, because you're directing this as well, your debut as a director.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Goodbye June.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

First of all, lot of sadness for a Christmas film, and I like that.

[Kate Winslet]

I mean, you say that. And the thing is, it is. It is also, though, it is very warm and there's a lot of humor and. And I think. I think it's just such a real and relatable story about family, really. I mean, it's. It's less about a woman who's sort of slipping away and much more about a family coming together because of that event. And I think it doesn't matter what family looks like to you. We all have to deal with loss at some point in our lives. And actually, I think in this country we're not very good at dealing with it and talking about that stuff. And I remember when my own mum passed away, sitting with my dad and thinking, what. What do we do now? And actually Googling coffins, like, how do you. I mean, and there's no manual for any of it. And so, I don't know, there's something about the kind of messy navigation that this family of disparate people has to process in order to kind of come to terms with, A, what's happening, but B, how they're all going to stick together and put aside past grievances and make it okay. And there's something, to me, that's just very, very real and human about that.

[Ed Gamble]

Totally. Those. Those discussions. Don't. Is it something British, do you think? Because, like, I've been in those situations before where, like, my mum or someone will go, well, here's what I want, and then you go, no, no, no, we don't talk about that sort of thing. We don't need to. That's you. You're bumming me out now.

[Kate Winslet]

Well, I think. I don't know. I mean, I Think. I don't know if it's a British thing or just. Is it a cultural. Is it a Western thing? I mean that when you look at other cultures, there are so many ways in which they process loss and even letting that person go and what they then do afterwards. And. And I just. There's a very. There's a very standard way of dealing with when you lose a parent or a loved one in particular. And I just. I don't know. I think making something that perhaps ignites a bit of conversation around that stuff, I think is. I think it's helpful.

[Ed Gamble]

How was directing for the first time? Because obviously you've worked with some incredible directors. Did you, like, draw techniques and little tips from them, the people you'd work.

[James Acaster]

With across the years, to wake everyone up at midnight?

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, it didn't wake anyone. Definitely didn't wake up.

[Ed Gamble]

There's an elephant at the hospital.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. I'm not falling for this again.

[Kate Winslet]

I loved. I honestly. I loved every single second of it. I loved being with the actors. I loved all the prep. I loved every day of the shoot. I never wanted it to finish. I loved sort of pulling people together and creating a story that, you know, felt resonant and humorous and warm and. And even the edit and the sound mix and the music and the great. All of it. I just. I loved every second of it. And I think I have been lucky. I have worked with some incred. And, you know, some directors are really all about the actors and others are more about the visual side of things and perhaps don't necessarily have the language available to them to be able to communicate something with an actor. And I think, having learned a lot over this 33 years of this career that I've been so lucky to have, I've certainly observed and felt myself, you know, what is helpful to an actor and what simply isn't and could actually kind of fuck people up. And so staying away from the things that I know don't work was something that I kept at the forefront of my mind.

[Ed Gamble]

The cast is bananas.

[Kate Winslet]

Bananas.

[Ed Gamble]

Like every character that walks on the screen, you're like, oh, my God, it's another national treasure.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

It's insane.

[Kate Winslet]

I know. It's funny. We sort of didn't. We just thought only of. When I say we, I mean myself and Joanne as the writer who happens to be my son. But he so didn't really believe that I was serious, that we could turn this into a film, this script that he had written, having never written a screenplay before. I kept saying to Him. Right. Okay, let's sit down. We're gonna put together our just dream list of people who would play these parts, which crew we would go to and everything. And we came up with this list of extraordinary actors. And we never thought that really any of them were gonna say yes. And they all did. Yeah. So the trick then was casting people of that calibre in these amazing roles and making them disappear and making it feel like a family. And I think a lot of that is helped by the brilliant children that we had.

[Ed Gamble]

I was gonna say as well, like, on top of all of these incredible actors, you've got quite a lot of children involved in the production as well.

[Kate Winslet]

Seven kids, which I was never actually was eight because the, the six month old baby was identical twin girls. But I've never been afraid of working with children. And actually as an actress, I've always really loved it. And interestingly, back to that thing of like how other handle things. A lot of directors are scared of, how do you direct children? And the reality is you can't really teach a child unless they're very gifted. You can't really teach a child how to act. You can just encourage them to be. And so I did spend a lot of time trying to work out how I could create an environment that the children just sort of felt like they were all on a play date with their friends. And so that started with, we have two 5 year olds in the film and one of those children is a little boy with down syndrome, beautiful little boy named Ben Shortland. And Ben's character was actually called Benji. And it was just really fortunate that we found this child. So I never had to teach him how to think of himself as a different name because that probably just would have been too many things for him to have processed. And so I thought, well, hold on a second. This is a great strength. We've got this gift. We have this child whose name is Ben. Everyone else should just think of themselves as their character names. And so all of the children, I just very gently said, particularly to my two teenagers, I said, look, let's just all call ourselves in our character names. And that's what the children did. They introduced each other to one another as the characters that they were. So there was never any, A, confusion, but B, it meant that when we were on set and in this sort of very playful environment, they were completely off script and would be calling each other in character names and everything then therefore, for me was totally usable. And when I never forget an extraordinary thing, I thought, my God, this Really did work when the little boy who plays Tybalt, we all still call him Tibby, his name is actually Elias. But when I walked him onto set to meet Helen Mirren for the first time, she started a couple of weeks into our shoot and we were already into a flow and she was there in the hospital room. And I said, do you know who that lady is? And I full on absolutely thought he was gonna say, that's Dame Helen Mirren or the Queen or something like that. And he said, yes, that's Nana June.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, wow.

[Kate Winslet]

And he was. I was like, okay, and my work is done. And so it just meant that I was able to roll the cameras without the children knowing. And we, as adult actors would be established in a state of make believe that they would just fold into and follow along. So it was really about playing for them. And that definitely helped in terms of bringing the joy. Caus children bring the joy. And in everything, in every situation in life. And it made a really big difference in terms of just them feeling relaxed and being able to improvise very freely. With the children, we pretty much abandoned any scripted lines. And I would say, don't learn anything, please. And they'd be like, what? You know, the older ones particularly, having been very studious and learned all of their dialogue really well. And I said, and please make lots of mistakes. We love mistakes. Okay, go. And they're like, mistakes, because then it's just giving them permission to be and be really free. And. And all of those lovely natural things that they came out with were captured and made it into the film.

[James Acaster]

And I mean, are you ready for this to, like, be brought up to you once a year when it's Christmas time? Like, I mean, you got that with the holiday already.

[Kate Winslet]

I still get it with the holiday.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Yeah. So now you're gonna get two.

[Kate Winslet]

I have no. I just have no idea. I mean, it's such an amazing feeling that we even made the film. And so special to have gone through this with my son. You know, he's always written all of his life. I mean, our fridge is still covered in poetry that he wrote when he was 7 or 8 years old. And. And so I think it didn't really surprise me that he declared that he was thinking about maybe writing scripts. And he got a place on a film. Film writing course at the National Film and Television School and was asked to write a screenplay. And he was encouraged to write what you know. And so he took inspiration from the most significant thing that happened in his life, which was the loss of his grandmother when he was a teenager, my mom. And he was so struck by how everyone in this huge family of ours was able to come together and just geographically, how unusual that was to all be in this same space. And we gave her a really great passing that, frankly, she could only have dreamt of. And he remembers thinking, my God, we're all here because we all somehow came from this one woman. And he took that as his emotional backdrop and from there created this fictional story about a fictional family who are going through the same thing. It was amazing, really. It was such a. If I never get to do it again. I just feel so proud, actually, that in this 50th year of my life, when it is much harder, I think, for actresses to transition into directing than it is for our male counterparts, I just feel really, really proud that we've done it, and we're very proud of the film.

[James Acaster]

We all start with still sparkling water on the podcast with your dream meal. I'm tempted, though, because we've already bought a paternal sunshine to start with dessert and go backwards and forget each one as we go on.

[Kate Winslet]

That's fine. I think we should do that. It's good to mix it up. Good to mix it up.

[Ed Gamble]

Bonito looks absolutely gutted.

[James Acaster]

He doesn't want us to do it, so he won't do it. But just so you know, if I'm things my way.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

All right.

[James Acaster]

That's what I do.

[Kate Winslet]

Okay.

[James Acaster]

But still a sparkling board.

[Kate Winslet]

It's going to be still. Yeah, still every time. Yeah. I don't like. But I don't like bubbles with my meal. I feel like my stomach starts to feel full before the food's gotten there. And I want my stomach to be full of food.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, yes. That's fair enough.

[Kate Winslet]

To be full of bubbles. Unless it's champagne, in which case it's a whole other conversation.

[James Acaster]

Sure.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, my God. I'm really sounding like a wanker now.

[Ed Gamble]

We've had much bigger wankers on the podcast. Don't you worry, Kate.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, us two.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, us two. For a start, you did two wankers.

[James Acaster]

To start with when we did our menus. Jesus.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, disagree.

[Ed Gamble]

We've done our dream menus, and basically every. We do it every hundred episodes. And you can plot the timeline of how much more pretentious we've become every couple of years. This guy started off. He was salt of the earth when we started this podcast.

[James Acaster]

Total wanker now covered in Michelin stars. Ridiculous. Oh, my God. Is there a particular still water you would like? Is it bottled? Is it tap? If it's tap, where's it from?

[Kate Winslet]

I don't know. I do usually. I have to say, I do usually go tap just because I. I don't like. I don't like plastic or even glass wastage if you don't have to have it. So. So yeah, I'm. I'm often the one who says, oh, tap's fine.

[Ed Gamble]

Straight out the tap.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, I think so, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Where's got the best tap water in the world?

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, my God, that is asking. Oh, I don't know, really. Probably Cornwall.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, yeah?

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, I think so. Although a lot of Cornish people, I'm sure, would beg to differ because rumor has it there's apparently quite a lot of tin in Cornish water from all the tin mining from years ago.

[Ed Gamble]

Really?

[Kate Winslet]

Apparently so. I don't. I really have no idea if that's true or not. It's pure speculation and I'm sure my publicist is sitting.

[James Acaster]

Please don't keep that in. Maybe you've just got a taste for tin.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Because if you like. Maybe if you like the tin water, maybe then maybe. Maybe it must do something for you. Right. Right.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. If it's your dream meal, if you like, we can add some extra tin to the water.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Like, really, I don't know if I.

[Kate Winslet]

Want to happen to me. I don't know if I want to be. Have added tin. I'm not sure how I feel about added tin, actually.

[James Acaster]

Extra tin.

[Ed Gamble]

We'll get you the Cornish water, though, and we'll test it for tin beforehand, just to make sure.

[Kate Winslet]

Thank you.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, we'll filter it or something.

[James Acaster]

Pop knobs or bread. Pop knobs or bread. Kate Winslet. Pop knobs or bread.

[Kate Winslet]

Quite loud bread, definitely.

[James Acaster]

It was a bit loud, wasn't it?

[Kate Winslet]

Free time.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Love bread. Love it. Oh, my God. Love it. Especially with butter. Thick butter. Butter. Love.

[Ed Gamble]

How thick are we talking in terms of proportion to the bread?

[Kate Winslet]

Well, if it was a piece of cheddar cheese, just imagine the thickness of that slice and that would probably be the. The thickness of the butter that I'd put on the bread.

[Ed Gamble]

Fantastic.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I think, you know, when I'm in public, I'll have to just calm myself down with the amount of butter I'm putting on.

[Kate Winslet]

Stuff I sometimes feel, actually I have to slightly hide it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

From people, especially if I'm in America.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, really?

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah. Particularly la, where people are not. Not too crazy about the amount of fat that they eat. But I quite like eating fat. Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

It was delicious.

[Kate Winslet]

Especially in the form of slabs of butter.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Makes me. It brings me great joy.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

On warm, crusty bread or at home.

[Ed Gamble]

All bets are off for me at home, I'm just standing up in the kitchen. Thicker butter than the bread.

[Kate Winslet]

Sometimes I take. I love breadsticks and. And sometimes I will just stand with a packet of breadsticks and just stab it straight into the butter and scrape it off.

[James Acaster]

That's good.

[Ed Gamble]

Shove it in and you're standing as well. I like that. There's no time to sit down and enjoy it. Just like. Just get in there.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, just get in there. Absolutely.

[James Acaster]

That could be your bread course if you. We can add some breadsticks if you like.

[Kate Winslet]

That would be nice, actually.

[James Acaster]

You just put a big thing of butter on your table.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, that's it.

[James Acaster]

Got your warm, crusty bread.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And breadsticks.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

You can just like go between the two of them. Sit and stand in. Sit.

[Kate Winslet]

Which I would. I would very much go between the two do.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

My kids would be fighting me for.

[James Acaster]

It and we're talking like. Like a baguette kind of bread or.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, God, you can't go wrong with a baguette, can you? I actually remember when we were little, my family never really had any money, so holidays were usually driving in cars and usually it would be a secondhand car that was borrowed from somebody because we were a family of six, but our car was never, ever big enough. So. And I do remember holidays where we'd would. We'd get on the ferry Dover to Calais and then drive through France and camp, and it was absolutely brilliant. And it would always be the middle of the night ferry at sort of three in the morning because it was the cheapest. And I think at one point kids could go for like a pound. And I remember going into tiny French markets and just being over the moon.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

My mum would be able to, you know, get us all a huge French stick and we'd split it between us and. Oh, heaven. The best.

[James Acaster]

That's great.

[Ed Gamble]

It is when you. I mean, we always ask this question on the pub when baguettes come up, but if you're buying a baguette, you're taking it home. Are you biting the end off before you get home?

[Kate Winslet]

I've bitten the end off before I've even paid for it. 100. It's gone. I get strange looks from the women on the checkout. Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Your dream starter.

[Kate Winslet]

Okay, so my dream starter, and I have thought long and hard about this is going to have to be I think a sort of a pasta with truffle and a big mound of shaved Parmesan on the top, which I think is probably controversial, the amount of Parmesan. But the reason I have opted for that is that when I was in my early 20s living in North London and Titanic had come out and my. This is the story that you're hoping I was going to tell probably. And my life changed overnight in, in many, many, many great ways, but in also some ways that were quite alarming for Kate from Reading, who never expected to be a famous person anyway. And I suddenly couldn't go out. I mean, I really couldn't leave the house. Whether it was photographers there or, you know, just fans or it was mad. And this was just my little two bedroom flat in N7. My neighbors, who I got to know very quickly and were very, very kind were Giorgio and Plaxi Locatelli. And Giorgio Locatelli, wonderful, very well known, highly regarded Italian chef. And at that point he ran a restaurant in, in South London, but he didn't have his own restaurant, so he wasn't the Giorgio Locatelli of who he then later became. And they saw very quickly that I couldn't go out. So their concern was how's she going to be able to go to Waitrose, we have to feed her. And so they would call me and they'd say, okay, so listen, George has just come back from work and he's managed to bring back some leftovers or some extras or whatever it was. And there was one day when they called and they said he's got a truffle and he's made some fresh pasta and would you like some? And they're crying into the phone.

[James Acaster]

I'd say, yes, yes please.

[Kate Winslet]

And they'd say, okay, well in about half an hour we'll just put it on the wall and it'll be there for you. And I would go out into the little alleyway that ran down the side of my house and there was a very high seven or eight floor, that wall that would divide our two properties. And there on the wall was a steaming bowl of the most beautiful, delicious linguine with truffle and a glass of red wine. And I felt fitter for things, let me tell you, and I have never ever forgotten it. And then later on I've remained very good friends with them to this day. And later on he showed me how to actually make that. And so that is why that would be my dream starter.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, wow, wow.

[James Acaster]

I mean, you're right, that was the story we're hoping. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. That is incredible. I don't know if I'd leave a bowl of pasta on a wall in London.

[James Acaster]

Not these days. This was back in.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

It was all hidden from the streets.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kate Winslet]

Between their sort of side gate and my side gate, we couldn't be seen.

[Ed Gamble]

Not hidden from foxes. Okay. Foxes or cat or stray cats.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, I know. Maybe.

[James Acaster]

Why are you trying to avoid the story?

[Ed Gamble]

Sorry, sorry. But that was my first story. It was a beautiful story.

[James Acaster]

What if a fox eats it?

[Kate Winslet]

It was a nice story.

[James Acaster]

You think Kate's gonna walk into the alleyway, there's a beard with potatype fox eating it. Just standing on its hind legs with a waistcoat on. Eating it with a fork.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, that'd be nice. I'd like that.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I'd like that better than anything.

[Kate Winslet]

A nice, comforting image, actually, if a fox in a waistcoat. Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

And that fox probably hasn't seen Titanic.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Do you know what I mean? Just treat you like a normal person.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, that's right.

[Ed Gamble]

It's good that it was hidden, I think. Cause with all the paparazzi, it would have been awful if there'd been a shot of you taking some pasta off a wall.

[Kate Winslet]

Well, especially when at the time they were all talking about, you know, what recent diet I was on.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

I mean, it was really not good.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Not good.

[Ed Gamble]

She's eating wall pasta.

[Kate Winslet]

Well, that's exactly what she's eating. Glue. I mean, there was sometimes. I mean. Anyway, let's not go into it.

[Ed Gamble]

But.

[Kate Winslet]

No, that was a pretty weird time.

[Ed Gamble]

But that is a beautiful. That's a beautiful story. Yeah. What a lovely. What a lovely thing for them to do.

[Kate Winslet]

Well, I think it just also, I mean, for me, you know, as. As I go through life, food becomes increasingly more important, whether it's just simply because you're hungry and you have to remember to sit down and eat something. But aside from anything else, it can be. It's. It. Comfort, complete comfort. And sometimes it can also be getting to know someone or connecting. And, you know, when I'm really, really busy, I love nothing more than going, okay, right, on this Saturday or that Sunday, what are we going to eat? And there'll be a conversation about the food that we're going to plan and who's going to cook which bit of it and who's going to come for lunch. And, you know, it just. There's something, you know, endlessly grounding for me about sitting down with a good me.

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[James Acaster]

Your dream main course.

[Kate Winslet]

Well look, I know this is a Christmas episode and I know that we're talking about Christmas food anyway at some point today, but I have to be honest, my dream main course really would be Christmas dinner. Yeah, I do love Christmas. My favorite meal of the year. I love it. My mum makes used to make the best roast potatoes to this day. I sometimes reach for the phone to go and ring her and say mum, remind me, how long do you do the fat for before you take the potatoes into the pan? And it's the great sadness to me is that I can't call my mum and say how did you, how did you cook this? How did you do that? How long for what temperature? Blah blah. So I do love a really amazing Christmas dinner.

[James Acaster]

What are the essentials in the Christmas dinner for you?

[Kate Winslet]

Red cabbage. And every year I make it to my mum's recipe and every year I cry because of the smell. I'm like she's not here anymore. And actually my older two children know that it's gonna happen. So as soon as they start to smell the red cabbage, you smells they hover in the kitchen. She's gonna go and she's crying and, and so I would never be able to go without that.

[Ed Gamble]

How's the red cabbage made? What, what else are you putting in the red cabbage?

[Kate Winslet]

Apple, red onion, cranberry sauce goes in as well towards the end. A little bit of brown sugar, plenty of cloves, cinnamon sticks, things like that.

[Ed Gamble]

I love red cabbage on Christmas Day. It's such a. It feels so Christmassy. But I'm not, I'm not eating that the rest of the year. No, I would never touch it. The rest isn't it. Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

And I do always think, why don't we eat turkey? Throughout the years, it's, it's so, it's so extraordinary. I have taken to brining mine.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, yeah, right.

[Kate Winslet]

Which I think I could never go back on now. It's, it's. That's the way forward for me.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. 100.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

So you're wet, you're wet brining the turkey or dry. Yeah, yeah. So you've got a, you've got a huge tub that you're putting this in.

[Kate Winslet]

I've got a huge tub that I'm putting it in. This is correct. And the whole thing gets submerged into there and looks, it always looks very alarming. Very, very alarming. A sort of huge thing floating in a bunch of, you know, sort of autumnal leaves and rubble from, you know, from the gutter. But no, it's not rubble at all. So. Yeah. God, there's so many things that go in oranges, clove, cinnamon sticks, always, of course, bay leaves, mace, tons of things, tons of peppercorn, salt, lots and lots of salt and about five liters of water. But it's a, it's become a bit of a ritual in our house, the brining of the turkey.

[James Acaster]

And are you doing this all by yourself?

[Kate Winslet]

No, my, no, my kids usually help, particularly my son Joe. He, he loves to cook as well, so he, he tends to get involved now as well, which is fantastic.

[Ed Gamble]

You can make him do so much more this Christmas. You'd be like, I directed your bloody film.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, get in the kitchen, you're doing the turkey. But always, I do always get roast potato fear because my mum was so brilliant at her roast potatoes. Luckily my mother in law, Rosie, she is a fantastic roast potato queen. So if they're joining us, I always. That's always her job and I'm very grateful for it because they're delicious.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I was going to say, how many, how many people are over for Christmas? How many people?

[Kate Winslet]

It's usually a minimum. It's usually a minimum of about 10, but it can be up to sort of 14, 16, depending on who's around.

[James Acaster]

Any of celebs ever tagged along for the Winslet Christmas dinner?

[Kate Winslet]

No.

[James Acaster]

Jack Black?

[Kate Winslet]

No.

[James Acaster]

You've had Jack Black around one year.

[Kate Winslet]

I haven't, I haven't at all.

[Ed Gamble]

You want that to Be true.

[Kate Winslet]

Right?

[James Acaster]

Yeah. I want to be at the holiday for real.

[Kate Winslet]

No, we're not really. We don't really. We're not really like that as a family.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

I mean, I've got some really great friends from the work that I've done over the years, but. But we don't really have celebrities come for Christmas.

[Ed Gamble]

Christmas is not for celebrities coming over.

[Kate Winslet]

I don't think it is.

[James Acaster]

If you were told one year, your Christmas dinner is just you and the cast of the holiday and that's it.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, my God.

[James Acaster]

Who you want. Who do you want to sit next to?

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, my God. I'm quickly thinking. I'm like, okay, don't make the answer controversial, Kate. Who would I want to sit next to? I definitely want to sit next to Jack.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Because he's just gorgeous and hilarious and, you know, he's great fun. Also loves food.

[James Acaster]

How much has that changed the Christmas season for you since that film came out? Like, every time it's Christmas. Are you going. Okay, people are going to come up and bring that up a lot more now.

[Kate Winslet]

Yes. I do have to slightly pick the time of day that I go to Waitrose. From about now, mid November onwards, which is mid November that we're actually recording this podcast. From about now onwards, I do have to choose my time of day because if I. If I go sort of early evening or kind of middle of the day, people will stop me. And it is actually lovely. And it's something very unexpected. So it's mothers and daughters, mothers and teenage daughters or grown, grown daughters. They will come to me and they say, oh, is it you? And I'll say, I think it might be me.

[Ed Gamble]

And then they say, it's such a difficult question.

[Kate Winslet]

And they just say, we have to say. We just have to say our favorite film. And I'm thinking, bless you. You think that you're the only people for whom this is a ritual. And actually there's this ritual that has emerged between mothers and daughters, and some point over Christmas, they send everyone off to the pub and they sit down and they order a takeaway and they watch the holiday and then they have a big box of chocolates. And it is a thing.

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[Kate Winslet]

And it is so lovely. I have to say. It's very gratifying and heartwarming that that happens. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

But you still can go to Waitrose. It's not like the old days.

[Kate Winslet]

I go to Waitrose all the time.

[James Acaster]

Nobody's putting a brine turkey on a wall for you.

[Kate Winslet]

No, believe me, I go to Waitrose all the time. I do everything like normal. Take the tube, get the train, do all that. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Personally for me, I just like having something to do. A dinner table. If it gets a bit quiet, I can do the napkin.

[Kate Winslet]

Mr. Napkin?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I can do Mr. Napkin.

[James Acaster]

Did you do Mr. Napkin?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, of course.

[Kate Winslet]

It's good for. I do Mr. Napkin. Especially when, when Bear, my, My youngest, who's about to turn 12 when he was little. We've got lots and lots of videos on phones of us doing my name is Mr. Napkin.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

All over the world in various different places whenever I was filming. And no, it's, it's, it's, it's a good one.

[Ed Gamble]

One.

[Kate Winslet]

That was, that was a Jude Law improvised.

[Ed Gamble]

Was it? Was it a ref.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, that's full of. That's, that's, that's.

[James Acaster]

He's got to be pleased with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Great life skill.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah. So we'd normally now ask you your dream Christmas dinner.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

But that is your main course anyway.

[Kate Winslet]

It is really. I mean, I think if I was forced to kind of go off piste and really think of a. Of a main course I. That I'd go for. I mean, I do love a pie. Yeah, I do love a bit of pastry. I'm more pastry than filling, actually. So when people eat a pie and they leave the crust, I just think, well, it's crazy.

[Ed Gamble]

You're just eating like a castle.

[Kate Winslet]

Are you mad? I mean, I would take a crust off a stranger's plate if I've ever.

[James Acaster]

Been more serious about anything.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, very serious.

[James Acaster]

He's never been more serious about anything.

[Ed Gamble]

Why?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, let's eat in a castle.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. You're not eating a pie then.

[Kate Winslet]

No, it's not.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, what are you doing?

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, what's the point? Might as well have soup. Yeah, yeah, you might as well have soup. Or quiche.

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely. So they probably wouldn't either crust on the quiche either. These people, they're just eating scrambled egg, see.

[Kate Winslet]

And I would, I will. I would take the crust off a stranger's plate of a quiche as well. Do love it. So. Yeah, I love a good old, A good old pie. I'd always reach for. Reach for that.

[James Acaster]

What's your restaurant preferred filling for the pie?

[Kate Winslet]

Well, it's probably sort of a chicken and veg type vibe, something like that. I don't eat a huge amount of meat, actually. I'm talking about all the meat things, but I don't really eat huge. I mean, my husband Ned is complet Vegan. And so I have had to become really good at doing lots of interesting vegetable dishes, and I don't think I'm actually very good at it, and I could certainly be better. So at Christmas, I do do a pie day, actually. And so for Ned, I always make a. A lentil and mushroom and walnut Wellington, which he's very covetous of. And yet everybody's like, oh, what are you having? And he's like, mine, mine. I might need it for tomorrow and the next day and the next day.

[Ed Gamble]

What it is. Don't ask me what.

[Kate Winslet]

He can get a whole week out of that Wellington. But, yeah, Huge fan of pastry. And it also reminds me a bit of my grandmother, my mum's mum. She was a brilliant cook, and she was back. She was that generation of like, you know, dripping bread and dripping and. And if she got a cold, she would just eat half a raw onion and then she'd be absolutely fine. Stinking. Yeah, but she'd be absolutely fine. And she used to. She used to go to the fishmonger every Friday, you know, back in the day when you'd have. You would have meat once a week and you'd have fish on a Friday. And the milk was delivered and the cream on the top was thick and the foil and. Oh, my God, I loved it. But she would get fish on a Friday and she. And she would make sometimes just for herself, because it was a moment of Zen for her, a beautiful piece of fish, and she would make five fat chips. Just five, Always five. Don't know why. Maybe it was because she could get five out of one potato. And. And I do have a memory of that. And then she'd always make a pie, usually some kind of. Of pie over the weekend, and there would always be shortening in the. In that pastry. And it. God, it was the absolute best. And I certainly can't make pastry the way that she did. Definitely not.

[James Acaster]

Well, we can have the pie that she's made, the pastry, if you want. For the dream?

[Kate Winslet]

Yes, please.

[James Acaster]

And would you like your mum to have made the red cabbage as well? For the dream?

[Kate Winslet]

Yes. And the potatoes.

[James Acaster]

And the potatoes, definitely.

[Kate Winslet]

But I would do my turkey, which is controversial because to say out loud, I think my turkey is better than my mum's turkey, but she would almost cry. She'd slice into that turkey. She'd go, oh, it's dry.

[Ed Gamble]

That's part of the ritual.

[Kate Winslet]

It's dry again. It's again, Raj. It's dry again. It's dry again. I'm gonna have to give you leg.

[Ed Gamble]

I love that. What are you doing with your leftovers? I think this is a big Christmas question.

[Kate Winslet]

So I am not a fan of a turkey curry. Curry. I do love curry but I'm not a fan of a turkey curry. Somehow that seems very ad hoc and doesn't make any sense to me. So I, I slice it all off. I don't leave it sitting on the. On the bone for days in the fridge. I slice it all off and I usually freeze some of it and typically I will make some sort of a bit huge vegetable soup. Vegetable and turkey soup. I'm a big fan of. Of stock.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Or if the more popular name now is bone broth which I. But I'm a huge fan of a. So in fact not very long ago I did just make a very big soup at home using my frozen turkey stock from Christmas. So I freeze big batches of it and. And we'll use that a lot, especially if someone's feeling not very well.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

I will often just cook up a big soup and. And that will go in there. Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Got any. You having Christmas pudding? You having a dessert for your Christmas dinner?

[Kate Winslet]

So my. We're very, very lucky in that. Since my mum, since we lost my mum, my dad met someone else and he has a wonderful relationship with a great lady named Chris Gale. She's a gorgeous, gorgeous jazz singer and she used to bake and she had a little cake stall when she was younger and she makes an extraordinary Christmas cake. So her contribution now is that she brings a Christmas cake and actually I've started doing Christmas puddings less because I want for Chris's beautiful cake to always take a special place on the table. So we lean more towards Christmas cake now.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm so into Christmas cake now. Used to hate it when I was a kid.

[James Acaster]

Sure.

[Ed Gamble]

Christmas cake, Christmas pudding. I could not understand.

[Kate Winslet]

No, I couldn't either. Now what's with the hiding of the money that you just know has been dropped a million times in the street and weed on. Why? Why? No need, no need for that. But I tell you something in our house though that we really can't go without is mince pies because my husband Ned, he, he starts eating mince pies I think. I think at. Around Halloween actually if he can find them. He's just. Yeah. Addicted. He sees it as is his.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah. When you first see him on the shelves in shops, it's very exciting. Yeah. It's mince pie season.

[Kate Winslet]

No, he. Well, I just, I. I start just finding them in the shopping basket. I don't know if I said. Not that we go shopping together, actually, because that makes it sound quite sad, but we don't. But it's not sad. But if he does do the shop, which is often, actually, he. We're very good at sharing those jobs. He'll always come back with mince pies. And I'll be like, what are these doing? This is 2nd of November. And he's like, I. Yes, I know. I. I know, but it's cold outside and it's time for a mince pie.

[Ed Gamble]

And he's definitely had one on the way home as well.

[Kate Winslet]

A thousand percent, if not two.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah. Like Krishnan Guru Murthy with the custard tarts.

[James Acaster]

Yes. He eats them in the car.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

So his wife doesn't find out. Your dream side dish is the next question. But obviously Christmas dinner is a hard one to add a side dish.

[Ed Gamble]

You sorted for sides on Christmas dinner.

[James Acaster]

I feel like we're pushing more food on you.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

It's like, well, I do love. I do love bread sauce. So that's aside, but that's not really a side dish, is it? It's sort of something that you just kind of have to have, but a side dish. I mean, I don't know. Ari allowed side dishes that could also be considered starters.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Type of thing.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I think so. Because we've got pasta to start.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

So I do love an oyster. I do love it. But only. Only the little ones. And. And I have two stories around my consumption of oysters, which is that forever. I would think, oh, my God. Way too gynecological looking. Can't be doing that. And then I was lucky enough when I was about 30, 31, to be invited at a dinner. It was a small dinner in New York. Cause I lived in New York for 10 years. And it was a small dinner with a group of people who my husband at the time, Sam Mendez, he had just worked with with Paul Newman and Tom Hanks.

[James Acaster]

Wow.

[Kate Winslet]

And somehow I found myself at having a meal with them. There were maybe seven or eight of us, and Paul Newman ordered 24 oysters. And I was sat beside him and they were passed around. The very, very generous man. It's the only time I met him.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Passed around the table. Would you like an oyster? Would you like one? Would you like one? I'm thinking, oh, God. He's going to offer me a bark and oyster, and I'm going to have to say, no. The plate came to me. And how about you? Would you like an oyster? And I said, no, thank you. And I looked at his eyes and I went, actually, yes. Because I thought, if I eat this oyster, I will always be able to say, Paul Newman gave me my first oyster. And I had the oyster and I loved it. And so on occasion, I will order oysters, and they're just delicious.

[James Acaster]

Do you think about Paul Newman every time you have an oyster?

[Kate Winslet]

I do, actually, Yeah, I do. And then I tell the story that I just told, but I've never. I don't think I've ever told it on a podcast. So.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Kate Winslet]

Exclusive road to petition. Exactly right.

[James Acaster]

That film. Yeah. There's a point in the video where people will see that you mentioned that they work together. And I go like this. I don't want people to think that I wasn't interested in what you were saying. It was that I went. I have to remember what the film was.

[Kate Winslet]

A great, great film. Really, really great film.

[James Acaster]

Real good film.

[Kate Winslet]

And then. And then years and years and Years later, in 2011, at the beginning of the next chapter of my life, which I'm currently very, very happily immersed in, I met my husband, Ned, and again found. We found ourselves in New York, and it was at the very beginning of our relationship. And. And Chelsea Market is a great market in. In. In the city. And there's an amazing fish shop in there. Really spectacular. And Ned and I were just having one of those kind of early romantic days out wandering around New York City, and I said, oh, should we get some oysters? And he said, well, I don't know if I've had oysters before. And I'm sure I then told him about the Paul Newman story. And we. And we bought these oysters and. And. And we took them back to the flat where I lived at the time. And I. I know how to shuck oysters. And so I shucked all these oysters, and we had the oysters and had some champagne, and then. And then we're still together and moving on, you got to say. So I did.

[Ed Gamble]

So that's a baller move on a date.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

If I was on an early date with someone, they were like, I'm going to shuck you an oyster. I'd be like, right, well, we're getting married. Married.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

That's absolutely brilliant.

[Kate Winslet]

There was no question as to whether or not we were going to be together forever. I knew that as soon as I met him. I was like, oh, it's you. Oh, it's you. I know it sounds super soppy, but I really Did. Yeah. I really did think that.

[James Acaster]

That's nice.

[Kate Winslet]

Good.

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[James Acaster]

Well, you mentioned champagne a few times, but your dream drink to me.

[Kate Winslet]

There's some. There is something very special about a glass of champagne. I don't drink champagne all the time. I actually am not. I love a drink, but I'm not a really big, big drinker. I don't like getting drunk. I just. I don't know, the feeling of being out of control and probably the fear that someone's going to take a photograph of me falling over and showing the world my knickers. Although I feel like I've shown the world my knickers a million times, the different parts that I've played so I don't know what I'm worrying about.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, right.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

That's wardrobe.

[James Acaster]

It's not your knickers. That's wardrobe. We're giving you those knickers, so it's not. It's not as personal when they see that one.

[Kate Winslet]

They probably were mine, actually.

[James Acaster]

Okay. That. That's the scoop.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Spontaneous.

[James Acaster]

They were always Kate's knickers.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

In all of the films.

[Kate Winslet]

Nicker flashing. But I do like a glass of champagne. And I'm. You know, I'm not. I'm not a fan of, what you call it. Prco. I'm not a fan of Prosecco. I have to be honest. It's just not the same. But I do love a glass of champagne. Not fussy, Love a bit of verve. Love it. Love Mermaid. I mean, But I. Yeah, there. There always has to be. There always has to be a reason to have it.

[Ed Gamble]

Like. Yeah. Are there people drinking it on the daily or as their regular drink? It would just lose. It would lose all. All sense of occasion.

[Kate Winslet]

It's really fun, actually, because as I'm hearing myself say this, I can. I can hear the voices of a couple of my friends saying, kate, you don't drink champagne on occasion. You drink it whenever you're offered it. And actually, to be perfectly on to you. That's also true. Yeah, I would imagine. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

So that is your dream drink.

[Kate Winslet]

It is my dream drink, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Y.

[Ed Gamble]

What sort of glass do you want it in?

[James Acaster]

There we go. He loves this.

[Kate Winslet]

I'm fussy. I'm not fussy.

[James Acaster]

He's obsessed.

[Kate Winslet]

It could be a clean jam jar. It could be a plastic tub. I don't care. No, I'm not.

[James Acaster]

I'm not.

[Ed Gamble]

Not in the brining tub. You can't have it out the brining tub.

[Kate Winslet]

No. But you could have it in a sort of a plastic picnic cup. Don't mind about that.

[James Acaster]

My favourite glass is done now.

[Ed Gamble]

What?

[James Acaster]

My favorite glass is done.

[Ed Gamble]

Broken.

[James Acaster]

Not broken. The boiler man used it to put all the sludge in it. Didn't even ask me.

[Kate Winslet]

That's very upsetting.

[James Acaster]

Didn't even ask me. Yeah, the boiler was acting up.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I was like, let me know if you need me. I'm in the other room. It's like, yeah, it's all done. It's like, yeah, basically loads of sludge. You got to empty the condenser. I've done it. And then I looked and there's my favorite glass, just full of gray. Disgusting stuff. He'd got out the boiler.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, no.

[James Acaster]

I was like, that's it, brother. Just ask me. Just shout in the next room, hey, I need to empty the sludge. You got something that you're not gonna drink out of every day? Day.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, my God.

[James Acaster]

Just use my glass. Use my favorite glass setting. Yeah. Really upsetting. That's done, I think.

[Kate Winslet]

You know, I. One thing I will say, I'm not precious about glasses, because they get broken. They do all the time. And if. If people ever come to stay or they're staying in our house if we're away, I'll just say, don't worry about breaking anything. Nothing's precious. There's nothing out that, you know, is too important not to be broken. Because I just don't think you can live like that. I don't want people to ever come into my house glass and feel like they can't touch anything or.

[Ed Gamble]

But you'd say if you. Oh, if you're coming over to maybe put sludge and stuff. Yeah, maybe I'll leave out a sludge glass.

[Kate Winslet]

I'll leave out a sludge glass for you just in case you need to put some sludge in it. Yeah, I'd be clear about that.

[James Acaster]

A friend of ours, Stuart Laws, who's a comedian, had a routine that I was quite jealous of about the glass that you used to catch a spider with. And then you always remember that that's the spider glass.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And then you give it to guests that you don't like.

[Kate Winslet]

We used to have. When we were growing up, we used to have a. What we would call a silver fish dish. And they were these kind of terrible little sort of 20 from a jumble sale, sort of small metal boat type dishes that, you know, my mum would put, you know, a blob of ice cream, if we were lucky into. And. And I. And I remember that there was. There was actually, you know, this little silver fish that crawl around the skirting boards. It would always be silver fish that would sit in these dishes in the cupboard.

[Ed Gamble]

So just hang out.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah. So that would. They would become the silverfish dishes.

[Ed Gamble]

And that was also your ice cream dish.

[Kate Winslet]

It was also the ice cream dish, yeah. But there was no backup, so we had to just plow on and continue to use the dish.

[James Acaster]

Wouldn't stop me from eating ice cream, you know that probably, yeah, yeah. If it was crawling with silverfish, I'd still be eating it if it was all over the scoops.

[Ed Gamble]

Did you have a sick bowl at home?

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, we had a sick bowl, yeah. Actually, it was a sick bucket. It was orange and it Lived under the sink.

[Ed Gamble]

That's better for sick, I'd say, because like the bowl situation, you're like, are you going to use this bowl for anything else?

[Kate Winslet]

I just don't know if we had any bowls that were big enough. Quite honestly. The only bowl that we would have had would have been the bowl of the salad spinner that might have been big enough and that was brown.

[Ed Gamble]

You don't want to be sick in a salad spinner, though.

[James Acaster]

No, that's going all over the place.

[Kate Winslet]

Definitely don't. Don't want to be sick into a salad spinner. No. But nobody had an orange sick bucket.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

With a white handle.

[James Acaster]

Remember Stuart Laws who I mentioned a minute ago?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Guess where he went recently and sent me videos of his whole trip there.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, God.

[James Acaster]

And now I'm gonna pronounce it wrong. Even though Montauk. Montour. The place in the turtle sunshine that you go to. He went there and he was really excited about it because he knew I'd like it. So he sent me videos of his whole. The whole trip. It was at the station that you guys are at.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Went to all the different locations.

[Kate Winslet]

It was absolutely. It was brilliant out there. I loved it. And it was. It was very, very cold and it wasn't meant to snow. And you know, there's that scene in it. I don't need to tell you. I don't need to tell you, do I? Where they wait, they wake up in a bed on the beach in the snow. Okay. Wasn't meant to snow.

[Ed Gamble]

Wow.

[Kate Winslet]

And we got there late one night, the whole crew and cast, we'd all traveled out there, up wake, woke up in the morning, literally three foot of snow everywhere. So I called Michelle and I said, oh, God, what are we going to do? He was like, what do you mean? This is fantastic. We are going to shoot in that. And then there we are, you know, on the beach, in the bed, in the snow. Completely. I mean, I don't think you'll ever see that again anywhere.

[James Acaster]

No.

[Kate Winslet]

Because what are the chances? And it was freezing. But yeah, completely amazing. I loved Montauk. There was a cafe that I would go to on the way to work and I would always get a coffee and a really delicious thick doorstop sized. It was sort of like an oatmeal raisin cookie with loads of lovely ground spices in it and nutmeg and things and. Yeah, see, I love food. My kids always say to me, you always remember the places we went by, the food that we ate.

[Ed Gamble]

Quite right. So absolutely True.

[Kate Winslet]

I really do. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I went on David Cross's podcast and I really annoyed him by asking him, how many times a week does he think to himself, I was in eternal sunshine, spotless mind. And he was like, never. I don't think that.

[Kate Winslet]

Carrie, I'm making a birdhouse.

[James Acaster]

I quoted that to him on his podcast. He did not like it. He remembered it. He was. Wasn't impressed by me for shouting that I. I did exactly what you've just done. And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, come on, man.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

What a line. It's a funny line.

[Kate Winslet]

There's such brilliant scenes as well in Waiting for Guffman. You've seen these, Tommy.

[James Acaster]

You've seen Weeks Ago.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, my God. That's one of our favorites. There's that scene I've been coming out to this landing site. The temperature is always the same. Yeah. He's genius. He's so, so talented.

[James Acaster]

Well, he doesn't like his genius being brought up to him, I'll tell you that much.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, okay.

[James Acaster]

But it's fun. Fun to wind him up. He's a curmudgeon, so it was really fun. You know, why did I put his own podcast about how much I love eternal sunshine? He was not happy.

[Kate Winslet]

Not happy. Not happy.

[James Acaster]

I would ask you how often you think I was in eternal sunshine, but I imagine probably not much.

[Kate Winslet]

Well, it comes. It's been coming up a lot recently, and I. And. And what I think is amazing is. Is how that is turning into a bit of. And that there's a whole other. A little bit like Titanic. You know, there's another generation of young people who are discovering it largely because of the music, because the soundtrack is so incredible. But that's. I just. I never would have expected that, you know, and people will quote to me that line, I'm just a fucked up girl who's looking for my own peace of mind.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Is a great line written by the great Charlie Kaufman. She. She was such an extraordinary character. Incredible. And those wigs. I mean, my God, they were all wigs.

[Ed Gamble]

There's different colors.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, of course they were. Yeah. I did get to keep a coup of them, which is pretty cool. Yeah, it was just an amazing character to play. And I really did feel like I could be quite free and experimental and learned a lot about myself as an actor through that process and sort of being brave and just trying stuff. That thing of, like, you know, just making mistakes. That was positively encouraged by Michel Gondry. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Was there anything in particular that you did that's been my last eternal sunshine question.

[Kate Winslet]

Gone. I don't believe you.

[Ed Gamble]

But okay, now I can see why David Cross cut you off so quick.

[James Acaster]

He was furious.

[Kate Winslet]

I'm not gonna cut you off, darling. Go. Go on.

[James Acaster]

Is there anything particularly that you did that was taking a risk that made it in the film? And you were like, I'm really glad that I did that.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah. I think there's that line when. In that. In that hilarious sequence where the memories are erasing. And there's a. There's a bit where. Where. Where the Joel character is being bathed in the kitchen sink by his mom. And then where there's that perspective set where he's under. The day was so genius. And when I went, my crotch is still here. Look, just as you remembered it. And I flashed my knickers. That was definitely sp. Moment.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, your knickers.

[Ed Gamble]

Your knickers are wardrobes.

[Kate Winslet]

They were wardrobe. I seem to remember they were pink. I don't think I'd ever wear pink knickers. Not in real life.

[Ed Gamble]

Actually.

[James Acaster]

I've got one more question. But. But.

[Kate Winslet]

Okay, go on.

[Ed Gamble]

It.

[James Acaster]

It links to another film.

[Ed Gamble]

Does it link to food, which is what this podcast supposed to be about.

[Kate Winslet]

Come on.

[James Acaster]

Come on. Did you and Elijah Wood talk about being directed by Peter Jackson at completely different times in his career?

[Kate Winslet]

Because he didn't.

[Ed Gamble]

He.

[Kate Winslet]

He was just about to go away.

[James Acaster]

He hadn't done it yet.

[Kate Winslet]

No, he was just about to go and start shooting Lord of the Rings. From memory. From my. From memory. He was. He hadn't gone yet.

[James Acaster]

Because you were like, maybe I'm wrong. Did you do his first film?

[Kate Winslet]

I am wrong about that. No, he had done some of it. Elijah had done some of it. And he was going back, I think, to do additional shooting or reshoots or something like that. And no, he didn't talk about it very much. He's quite a sort of. Actors on the whole don't talk about other jobs to each other just because it's just the work. It's private. I mean, I'm sure you don't talk about, you know, that show you did last night?

[James Acaster]

We do all the time.

[Ed Gamble]

It's the only thing we talk about.

[James Acaster]

We texted each other last night about our gigs as they were happening, saying.

[Kate Winslet]

How great you both were.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, of course I'm funny.

[Kate Winslet]

You were.

[Ed Gamble]

And how much we love doing stand up and how we really respect our audience.

[Kate Winslet]

Scared at all when you walk out onto the stage?

[Ed Gamble]

We love the reaction we get. And the audiences are perfect and they're lovely.

[Kate Winslet]

And.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, we're so. We're so grateful.

[Kate Winslet]

Great weirdos.

[James Acaster]

Your dream dessert.

[Kate Winslet]

So I had to think long and hard about this because it is a toss up between two, but I am going to go with my. My own apple crumble.

[Ed Gamble]

Love that.

[Kate Winslet]

And the reason for that is because I cook or bake my crumble topping first. So, you know, you get excited about a crumble, and then you realize that half of it stuck to the roof of your mouth because the sort of the. The. The flour and buttery sugar mixture actually has just steamed on the top and might have gone a bit crunchy in certain areas around the. The edges. So I part bake mine, and it just goes all biscuity and lovely. So the crumble topping is baked separately on a flat baking sheet. And then I'll cook my apples a little bit first with some cinnamon and sugar. I feel like I've talked about cinnamon a lot. I guess I probably use it a lot.

[Ed Gamble]

It's the season for it, though, right?

[Kate Winslet]

It is the season for cinnamon. And so. So I said, then the apples will go in a baking dish, and then. And then I'll put my delicious crumbly topping topping all over the top. And. And that will go in for another 15 minutes. And I would have that. So Ned would have custard. He absolutely loves custard. And he says, flood it. Flood it. But I actually love a big dollop of clotted cream. Nice, proper Cornish clotted cream.

[Ed Gamble]

Shout out to Cornwall again.

[Kate Winslet]

Shout out to Cornwall again.

[James Acaster]

Was really coming out my life.

[Kate Winslet]

Shouting out to Cornwall.

[Ed Gamble]

The problem is there's a lot. A lot of tin in the clotted cream and corn.

[Kate Winslet]

Stop talking about it. Stop talking about it.

[Ed Gamble]

Because the cows are drinking the water, aren't they? So they're drinking the tin and coming out the milk.

[James Acaster]

You would be the one to be told. Stop talking about it.

[Ed Gamble]

Second time the tins come up. Stop talking about it.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Eternal sunshine.

[James Acaster]

50 times eternal questions.

[Kate Winslet]

Eternal questions about tin and Claus's cream.

[James Acaster]

Eternal questions of the obsessed mind.

[Ed Gamble]

Because you said that. You said there's tin in the water.

[Kate Winslet]

Well, I don't know if there is. I just said, rumor has it.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, rumor has it, Ed.

[Ed Gamble]

Sorry.

[James Acaster]

Sorry.

[Kate Winslet]

Rumor has it. So that would be. That would actually be my dessert. And that was a tough one for me because I'm such a fan of cheese. So I could easily go with a great cheese board.

[James Acaster]

Well, that's good. That.

[Ed Gamble]

That is really angry if guests pick a cheese board instead of dessert.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Whereas I love It. I'm the cheese. I'm the cheese boy.

[Kate Winslet]

Are you?

[Ed Gamble]

And when you.

[Kate Winslet]

What's your favorite cheese? I am curious actually.

[Ed Gamble]

The thing is, if we Now I. I would probably go with a British cheese and my go to would just be a very, very mature cheddar. I think you can't beat a very mature cheddar.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

But then also if we're.

[Kate Winslet]

Have you tried Sussex charmer?

[Ed Gamble]

No.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, it's chalky, it's crumbly, it's sharp, it's.

[Ed Gamble]

I like the crumble.

[Kate Winslet]

I like that. And it's sold in a. It's like a sort of almost like a wax paper wrapping, which I love. And. And it comes in a perfect cube.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

It's delicious. It's delicious. Sussex chum.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm gonna check that out. Yeah. Every year for Christmas my mother in law buys me the Godminster cheddar.

[Kate Winslet]

Nice.

[Ed Gamble]

And like all the varieties. So they do a truffle one that is out of this world and then a chil. And then just the. The normal one. I love that stuff. But then lover Stilton as well. Colston Bassett. Stilton, obviously. And then. Sure. Manchego Comte. An aged Comte. Lovely.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, we could do a whole separate episode on cheese.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, we should do. I mean, you could pick cheese. You can pick cheese for your dessert if you. If you wanted.

[Kate Winslet]

No, I'm not going to do that. He's making a face.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Looking directly into this canva for the whole of this cheese chest.

[Kate Winslet]

In a delicatessen. But a proper delicatessen which. With like, you know, beautiful epicurean foods and.

[Ed Gamble]

James, Kate's telling a story.

[Kate Winslet]

I'm telling a story. You're not listening.

[James Acaster]

I was looking into the camera.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, God. He's bored of me.

[James Acaster]

I was furious.

[Kate Winslet]

I won't talk to you about eternal sunshine anymore.

[James Acaster]

Oh, tell me about the delicates.

[Kate Winslet]

But I used to. I used to work on the cheese counter in this delicatessen. I did get to know all my cheeses and. Yeah. Love a good cheese.

[James Acaster]

You can have a cheese board after the meal. You. If. If you like.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah. But then have your apple crumble and I think I prefer the crumble first.

[Ed Gamble]

We can just leave it on the side and you can just nibble on it later on.

[James Acaster]

On a wall.

[Kate Winslet]

There's a delicious French called what she say? Put it on the wall.

[James Acaster]

Put it on a wall for you. Little cheese board on the wall.

[Kate Winslet]

Okay. There. There's a delicious French cheese called Charos that I absolutely love, which is. It's sort of. It's the it's almost the color of a, of a goat cheese with a, with a, a rind that is also pale like a goat cheese, but it's not, it's, it's made with cow's milk and it's, it's not as kind of stinky and runny as a camembert. It's really smooth, delicious with like a sort of a fruit bread or something like that. It's really delicious.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm so excited for Christmas now cuz I'm going to go. Absolutely. Cheese crackers.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, I can't wait.

[James Acaster]

You're going to go cheese crackers?

[Ed Gamble]

I'm going to go crackers and cheese. Cheese crackers. Truffle brie.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh yeah. God, you've got to have a nice sort of triple cream truffle brie.

[James Acaster]

I do like.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh God, yes. I can't wait to.

[Ed Gamble]

But this crumble also sounds delicious and it's, I like that it's your crumble because like you say your mum's roast potatoes were the best. Do you think the crumble is gonna be the thing that you pass down to your children? They're gonna be like my mum's crumble was the best.

[Kate Winslet]

Well, there is something else that I, that my children would prefer I pass down to them which is that it's a very decadent bread and butter pudding that I, that they do request that I make at Christmas as well. And this has become a new thing. We were in, we were in Vancouver for Christmas several years ago and in this particular area of Vancouver there's a wonderful donut shop. And it's quite a famous donut shop. I don't particularly eat donuts, but these things are so good.

[James Acaster]

What's it called?

[Kate Winslet]

It's called Honey's Donuts. No, it's in a tiny little place called Deep Cove in, in Vancouver, in North Vancouver. And the owners very kindly when we were there gave us a huge box of probably I don't know, 12 or 16 donuts. And I really thought, my God, what are we going to do with these, these things? I made the two day old donuts into bread and butter.

[Ed Gamble]

I just know James is losing his mind.

[Kate Winslet]

It was unbelievably delicious. And my kid, and now my kids do say, mum, come on, you got. And now in England we don't have Honey's Donuts, of course, but you know, panettone leftover croissants or cruffins. A cruffin, you know, the big sort of swirly things with the kind of crusty top with the sugariness all over them. So, yeah, so rather than going with actual, actual bread, I will try and find some sort of cake and put that into this very, very decadent bread and butter puddings. And they. That. That they. They would. In fact, last year, my daughter was like, you've got. You had. You're gonna have to show me how to do it. Yeah, it's delicious.

[James Acaster]

Were all the donuts, like, plain donuts?

[Kate Winslet]

No. So here. So some of them have a slight caramel topping. Some of them have chocolate. And I was like, like, okay, just break them up, shove it in.

[Ed Gamble]

So every spoonful you're getting, like, you might get a different flavor donut.

[Kate Winslet]

Different flavor donut in every bite.

[Ed Gamble]

That's pretty special.

[Kate Winslet]

Pretty delicious.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I think I'm adding that to my dream menu. Haven't even eaten it.

[Kate Winslet]

Really, really, like, ridiculously good.

[James Acaster]

I always think we should do, like, an episode where we only can make our menus off of things that other guests have picked.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And I'd pick that.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, I'll make it for you, but.

[Ed Gamble]

I don't think it's not going to happen.

[James Acaster]

But the fact that the offer's there.

[Kate Winslet]

I know I would Will.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, we've had. We've had people come on this podcast.

[Kate Winslet]

Before, and they've said they'll make.

[Ed Gamble]

They make promises. They say, let's go for a cocktail at that place.

[Kate Winslet]

I'm a woman of my word. Okay, cocktails. You see, I'd have to go for a Negroni if we were going out for a cocktail. Although I did. Someone did make me a very, very strong one this summer, and I loved it. And I loved it so much that I had a second one. And the next day, I swear to God, I thought I had brain damage. I honestly, I was like, completely. I felt like a bag of smashed crabs. What's happened to me?

[James Acaster]

I love that. Smashed crabs. Absolutely loves it. Okay, I'm going to read you your menu back now, see how you feel about it. By the way, you've said French airlines today and French cheeses, and I was trying to come up with a paint me, like your French girls thing, and I couldn't do it. And just so you know, I did try, but sometimes we fall short. No, no, no.

[Ed Gamble]

It was a good try, though, James.

[James Acaster]

Just so you know, I tried and I couldn't do it.

[Kate Winslet]

No. Okay.

[James Acaster]

I'm not. Not on my best form today. Okay. Still a sparkling. What you want? Still tap water from Cornwall. Poppadoms are bread. You would like warm, crusty bread and Breadsticks with thick butter.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Starter pasta with truffle and shaved Parmesan. Lovely story. Main course, Christmas dinner with your own turkey, your mum's roast potatoes, Mum's red cabbage with bread sauce with chicken and vegetable pie as well with grandmother's pastry and Christmas cake. Side dish, oysters. The little ones drink champagne. Dessert, your own apple crumble with Cornish cottage cream.

[Darina (Quo Co-founder)]

Yep.

[James Acaster]

That sounds great.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, it does, actually, doesn't it?

[James Acaster]

Sounds really nice.

[Kate Winslet]

Nothing overly fancy. Apart from. Well, no, actually, I lied. The truffle and the oysters and the champagne. What am I talking about? I'm somebody I didn't think clearly.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, but you've still got the Christmas dinner in there. And the red cabbage pie. Yeah, and the pie. I think it's a good mix.

[Kate Winslet]

Grounding food.

[Ed Gamble]

And look, it's mid November. Like we say, it's the first time I've felt Christmassy this year.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, good.

[Ed Gamble]

And that's because of your menu.

[Kate Winslet]

There you go.

[James Acaster]

I feel quite Christmassy, actually. And there's a little Christmas cake, Christmas tree next to you.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah, that's not a Christmas tree.

[James Acaster]

No.

[Kate Winslet]

Plastic thing with Tippex on the ends of it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Bonito. What the hell are you playing at, Benito?

[James Acaster]

What is your problem? Problem?

[Ed Gamble]

Are you putting that next to Kate.

[James Acaster]

Winslet for a little gingerbread house.

[Kate Winslet]

Little sweet gingerbread house. You see, that's. That's designed for a tea light. One of those. Why aren't they called tea lights?

[James Acaster]

I don't know, actually. I've never known.

[Kate Winslet]

Why are they?

[Ed Gamble]

I don't know.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, they're rubbish, aren't they?

[Kate Winslet]

They are rubbish. And they always go out.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

It's the battery operated ones you have to get. But I do, I do, I. I do like a little sort of house with a little candle in it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, that's a nice touch, actually. Oh, and the screen says Christmas special on it. I didn't even know.

[James Acaster]

I didn't hear that. That he does so much for us.

[Kate Winslet]

Is there a chopped octopus leg?

[Ed Gamble]

Yes. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

That's interesting, isn't it? That's not Christmassy, is it?

[Kate Winslet]

It's not Christmassy at all.

[Ed Gamble]

It's a Christmas special.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Think about, like, Christmas food.

[Kate Winslet]

Chopped octopus leg for Christmas.

[Ed Gamble]

Maybe they do in Spain or something. But is that a cabbage or a brain bonito?

[James Acaster]

It bustle, sprout.

[Kate Winslet]

I reckon it's a poo, actually.

[James Acaster]

It's a poo.

[Ed Gamble]

It's a shit. You put a shit like merry.

[James Acaster]

We got Kate Windsor on the podcast. You put a shit on the screen.

[Kate Winslet]

It is a petrified poo. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. So sorry.

[Ed Gamble]

So sorry for what he's done today.

[James Acaster]

Sorry, Kate.

[Kate Winslet]

It's okay.

[James Acaster]

We were good though, right?

[Kate Winslet]

You were great. You were great.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, we were good.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

You were nice. You were relaxed, you were kind and you were funny.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Pretty funny. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Didn't ask too many questions about eternal sunshine.

[Kate Winslet]

I thought I was quite funny. Was I surprisingly funny?

[James Acaster]

No, you're. You've been funny in films.

[Kate Winslet]

Did you not know what you were gonna get and you're relieved to discover that?

[Ed Gamble]

No, I think I knew. You' funny and warm and open interviewee.

[Kate Winslet]

Okay, good.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I've seen you in anything, so I was never.

[Ed Gamble]

I was never worried about when you were coming in.

[Kate Winslet]

Okay.

[Ed Gamble]

Sometimes people coming in, we're like, I don't know how this is gonna go. And sometimes we're right.

[Kate Winslet]

And when we finish recording, you're going to tell me who was the scariest person.

[Ed Gamble]

Robert Nero.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, I don't think he's scary, is he?

[Ed Gamble]

No, not scary, just intimidating as a prospecting.

[Kate Winslet]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kate Winslet]

Yes, I do. I can see that that might be.

[James Acaster]

A surprise to the guests.

[Ed Gamble]

And he's. He's very.

[James Acaster]

To the guests. To the listeners.

[Ed Gamble]

Very comfortable with not giving answers.

[Kate Winslet]

Oh, oh, oh, that maybe. Okay.

[Ed Gamble]

It was a funny episode, though, because our listeners know us and they like to hear us flail sometimes.

[James Acaster]

Oh, yeah. But that's. Sorry to tell you, but that wasn't a flailing today.

[Ed Gamble]

There's no. We've not needed to flail.

[Kate Winslet]

Good.

[Ed Gamble]

It's been fantastic. Thank you so much for coming to the Dream Restaurant, Kate, and Merry Christmas and you.

[Kate Winslet]

Thank you very much.

[Ed Gamble]

James.

[James Acaster]

That was a Jim Cartra was. What's a dream come true?

[Ed Gamble]

She was brilliant. How good was that?

[James Acaster]

I did talk about a ton of sunshine. I. I broke my promise.

[Ed Gamble]

But she brought it up. She did bring it up, which, you know, and brought it up quickly as well. I was like, oh, we're in trouble.

[James Acaster]

I couldn't believe it.

[Ed Gamble]

We are in trouble.

[James Acaster]

I was really restrained until a certain. A certain point.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Until towards the end when.

[James Acaster]

Yes. Maybe I thought, I've got to get them all in now.

[Ed Gamble]

The problem is, James, and you know, this about me is, of course, I've seen Eternal Sunshine multiple times.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

But I don't remember anything.

[James Acaster]

No.

[Ed Gamble]

That happens in any film ever I've ever watched.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I go to films. I go, that's brilliant. I'm gonna remember this is one of my favorite films.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And then you asked me about it three days later. I could not tell you who's in it.

[James Acaster]

No.

[Ed Gamble]

I could not tell you what the storyline was.

[Kate Winslet]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Also, I just go and see films and I go, that was good. I thought that was good. I better goof Google to check to see if I was right.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah. So when I do stuff like that to you.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

You got to sit there.

[Ed Gamble]

I've got to sit there. But it's really interesting watching you interview Kate Winslet about eternal sunshine in the spotless mind. And occasionally I would go chase. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Dream come true.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, yeah, Jeff. Sick bowl at home.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Yeah, that was good.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

You jumped to the sick bowl stuff. Kate didn't say Clementine either.

[Ed Gamble]

No. So thank God.

[James Acaster]

Even in reference to the character, she didn't even say the word.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, well, she. She knew you didn't need to know the name of the character.

[James Acaster]

She know. Yeah, she knew. This guy knows everything about this.

[Ed Gamble]

What a joy. Watch Goodbye June. It's in cinemas now and on Netflix on Christmas Eve, December 24th. December 24th. For those of you who don't know.

[James Acaster]

That that's Christmas eve, watch on YouTube. You can watch this on YouTube.

[Ed Gamble]

You can watch this On YouTube. You can't watch Goodbye June on YouTube, but you can watch this on YouTube.

[James Acaster]

This podcast.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

That's talking to Kate Winslet.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

On YouTube.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. I wonder how many shots there will be of me looking back and forth as we should release a whole different version where it's just my shot while they're talking about eternal sunshine.

[James Acaster]

Well, my shot when you're talking about cheese.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, well, yeah, that'll be in it. So rude. Funny for the first bit. And then she starts telling an anecdote about working in a delicatessen. I could not believe when I look around and you're still doing that.

[James Acaster]

That's really rude.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah. Really rude stuff.

[James Acaster]

Really rude.

[Ed Gamble]

But luckily she was lovely. And what a brilliant interview.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I absolutely loved every second of it. Thank you, Kate.

[Ed Gamble]

If you're listening, smash it out the park. Thank you so much for listening all year. But the year is not done for off menu because we will, of course, be releasing our best of the year episodes, the compilations. Yeah. And we'll be back for a new series of Off Me Menu in January. And what a way we're kicking that off.

[James Acaster]

What a way we're kicking it off.

[Ed Gamble]

Merry Christmas. Happy seasonal period. Have a good December. Happy New Year. Goodbye.

[James Acaster]

Bye.

[Mrs. Claus]

Guys. Thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree, Zoe.

[Elf Drew Ski]

This thing weighs a ton.

[Kate Winslet]

Drewski.

[James Acaster]

Lift with your legs, man.

[Sponsor Voice]

Santa.

[Kate Winslet]

Santa, did you get my letter?

[Elf Drew Ski]

He's talking to you British.

[Kate Winslet]

I'm not.

[Mrs. Claus]

Of course he did.

[Kate Winslet]

Right, Santa, you know my elf Drew Ski here. He handles the nice list.

[Elf Drew Ski]

And elf, I'm six three. What everyone wants is iPhone 17 and at T Mobile, you can get it on them. That center stage front camera is amazing for group selfies. Right, Mrs. Claus?

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[Mrs. Claus]

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