Office Ladies – "Second Drink: Money Part 2"
Podcast: Office Ladies
Hosts: Jenna Fischer (J), Angela Kinsey (A)
Release Date: December 22, 2025
Episode: Second Drink: Money Part 2
Episode Overview
In this lively installment of Office Ladies, Jenna and Angela revisit "Money Part 2," dissecting the second half of the classic The Office episode, sharing behind-the-scenes stories, responding to fan mail, and digging into favorite scenes and running jokes from the show’s storied past. This episode is legendary among fans for two memorable tangents: Jenna’s passionate "pockets and panty lines" speech and Angela’s hilarious (and somewhat accidental) John Wick rant. The conversation takes listeners from humorous set secrets to personal reflections on the show’s impact on their lives and friendships, all while celebrating the quirky and beloved world of The Office.
Main Segments & Discussion Highlights
Legendary Tangents: "Pockets and Panty Lines" & "The John Wick Rant"
[02:21-03:54]
- Jenna and Angela hype up the episode by mentioning two fan-favorite tangents: Jenna’s "pockets and panty lines" rant and Angela going off about John Wick.
- These epic moments stand out as spontaneous highlights, emblematic of their chemistry and humor during lockdown closet recordings.
Quote:
"People fricking loved it. I don't wanna spoil this if you haven't heard the episode, but you're gonna love it." – Angela [02:35]
Behind-the-Scenes Nuggets & Fan Tidbits
[04:00-08:23]
- Listeners send in detailed catches, such as Dwight’s shelf displaying samurai swords and six Dundies at [12:58 in the original episode].
- Angela reads aloud alternate (and hilarious) TripAdvisor reviews for Schrute Farms left by Jim and Pam—most weren't included in the aired episodes.
Notable Fan Contribution:
“Alyssa R. Wrote in and said... by telling Dwight how he felt when he was in a similar situation, Jim was validating Dwight's feelings in a way he would accept...” – Jenna quoting listener feedback [06:16]
- Angela shares a deleted scene where Michael’s "CD portfolio" investment turns out to be literal music CDs, not financial instruments, sending the crew into laughter.
Revisiting the “Money Part 2” Episode
[09:01-13:36]
- Jenna provides a brisk summary: Michael’s financial crisis and second job, Oscar’s intervention, Andy pursuing Angela, Pam and Jim at Shrute Farms, and the brewing Kelly-Darryl-Ryan dynamic.
- Paul Lieberstein is celebrated for both writing and directing the episode—earning an Emmy nomination during his directorial debut.
Quote:
“Where do you go from there? You're like, I crushed it. I'm done.” – Angela, on Lieberstein’s Emmy nod [10:21]
On-Screen Relationships and Real-life Reactions
[11:09-13:09]
- The Kelly/Darryl relationship is discussed as a refreshing, no-nonsense pairing (compared to Kelly/Ryan), spawning fan debates and affectionate "Carol" mashups online.
- Angela teases a deleted scene of Kelly trying to make amends with Daryl, underscoring the show’s layered character storytelling.
The Hollywood Years: Stepping into Stardom
[13:36-18:07]
- The hosts reminisce about how "Money Part 2" coincided with Steve Carell’s Teen Choice Award win—an indicator of the cast’s entry into Hollywood’s mainstream.
- Both Jenna and Angela share personal and endearing stories about getting starstruck (e.g., parties with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie) and how they stayed grounded.
Quote:
“We love to gossip with each other about everything we saw. And then the next day we woke up and we went to Target and... our lives went on.” – Jenna [16:17]
- Memorable anecdote: Jenna and Angela obsessing over a fancy porta-potty at a Hollywood party, documenting it over mingling with celebrities.
Iconic Scenes, Lines, and Set Details
The Infamous "Whomever vs. Whoever" Conference Room Scene
[26:06-29:53]
- The legendary debate about proper grammar is recounted, including Paul Lieberstein fighting to keep the scene in despite pressure from the writers’ room.
Quote:
“There was, like, a vote in the writers room to cut it... And he's really glad he did because that's the clip they ended up playing at the SAG Awards...” – Jenna [27:09]
- Angela humorously explains the difference between "whoever" and "whomever," providing her trusty mnemonic for listeners.
Pockets and Panty Lines Speech
[33:02-34:59]
- Triggered by Angela lamenting visible panty lines in a shot, Jenna launches into a passionate and hilarious defense of "laundry day" underwear and why women shouldn’t care about panty line visibility.
Notable Quotes:
“What I wear laundry day undies every day, all right? You know why? Because they're effing comfortable. And you know what I don't need in my day while I'm trying to be a boss lady... is a wedgie.” – Jenna [33:22]
“Pockets and panty lines are what I stand for.” – Jenna [34:48]
Deleted Scenes: Andy’s Awkward Courtship and Pam’s Panty Lines
[35:10-37:21]
- Angela details Andy’s embarrassing attempts to woo her character, some only visible in the DVD extras.
- The hosts point out Ed Helms’ physical comedy, such as his unusual stance when approaching Pam.
Set & Prop Easter Eggs
[39:04-41:07, 49:03-51:17]
- Rope bracelet alert: Andy’s nautical knot bracelet is historically accurate for his character’s preppy, East Coast background.
- The presence of authentic Scranton-area pizza flyers on the set prompts a deep dive into Scranton’s pizza scene, including shout-outs to local favorites mentioned by fans.
Kelly & Daryl: “Access Your Uncrazy Side”
[46:48-47:09]
- Daryl’s straightforward advice to Kelly—“access your uncrazy side”—becomes a viral moment among fans.
Creed’s Real-life Passport
[47:38-48:52]
- The scene where Creed explains his financial trickery by showing a passport is revealed as featuring Creed Bratton’s actual legal document.
Quote:
“William Charles Schneider is Creed Bratton's real legal name... and he is holding up his actual real life passport.” – Jenna [48:31]
Connection to Real Scranton Businesses
[41:44-44:06]
- The hosts call Terry’s Diner live on air after noticing its flyer on set, discovering it’s a legit location regularly contacted by Office fans from around the globe.
Notable Quote:
“People call all the time from all over the world.” – Desiree, Terry's Diner [44:15]
John Wick Tangent
[66:35-69:03]
- A running joke surfaces as Angela details how she watched all three John Wick films at Jenna’s insistence, only to discover Jenna never made it past the first half of the first movie.
- The two riff energetically on Keanu Reeves, movie injuries, and the absurdity of taking friendship watch recommendations so literally.
Quote:
“Now it makes sense to me. And I said, I watched it with Josh. I was like, ‘Josh, we have to watch John Wick. Jenna said, we have to watch it.’... Now it makes sense. You've only seen, like, 20 minutes of the movie.” – Angela [68:19]
Scene-by-Scene Breakdown: Insights & Details
Michael’s Money Woes
[58:59-60:54]
- Michael’s spending is dissected: he wasted money on The Best of the Muppet Show ($125) and a useless exercise machine, Core Blaster Extreme ($1,200).
- Oscar’s exasperated attempts to help Michael with his finances are highlighted, including deleted negotiations for Michael to pay Oscar in "coupons, credits and back rubs."
Schrute Farms Review & Dwight’s Depression
[63:34-64:12]
- Touching moment: Jim and Pam write a glowing TripAdvisor review to perk up Dwight, underscoring Pam’s secret role as Dwight’s best friend.
Jim’s "Pep Talk" to Dwight
[71:04-72:42]
- Angela calls out Jim’s stairwell speech for being unintentionally depressing on review, despite its intent to show empathy.
Real-life Reflections and Fandom Connections
[78:07-80:01]
- The hosts close with gratitude for the Office Ladies fan community, especially for support during Angela’s bout with Covid.
- The episode wraps with anticipation for next week’s special guest, Randall Einhorn (director and cinematographer for The Office).
Quote:
“The intimacy of this community is really real for us too. And yeah, thanks for being there for my friend, you guys.” – Jenna [80:01]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)
- “Let's face it, I was never going to learn how to do this anyway.” – Michael, as recounted by Angela [25:05]
- “Why do women always have to disguise the fact that we wear underwear. Who cares if you see a line on our butt from our underwear that we're wearing every day? Surprise.” – Jenna [34:03]
- “Creed is offering Michael some financial advice. He talks about how he needs to file for bankruptcy. 'Bankruptcy is nature's do-over.'” – Creed [47:51]
- “Access your uncrazy side.” – Daryl to Kelly [47:02]
- “I am dying of love sickness and horny sickness.” – Andy, deleted scene [35:53]
- “Lord Rupert Everton. He is a shipping merchant who raises fancy dogs." – Michael's imaginary witness protection persona [53:10]
- “I declare bankruptcy!” – Michael [53:47]
- "You know what I can't handle right now is if he gets hit by another car. And literally three seconds after I said that, a car runs over him..." – Angela (John Wick rant) [69:03]
Key Timestamps for Important Segments
- [02:21] – Introduction of the infamous tangents
- [04:00] – Alison’s background catch (Dwight’s shelf)
- [09:01] – Episode summary
- [10:21] – Paul Lieberstein’s directorial debut and Emmy nod
- [26:06] – Behind-the-scenes of the Whomever/Whoever conference room scene
- [33:02] – “Pockets and panty lines” speech by Jenna
- [39:04] – Andy's rope bracelet and character props
- [44:06] – Live call to Terry’s Diner
- [46:48] – “Access your uncrazy side" and Kelly’s talking head
- [53:10] – Michael’s new identity: Lord Rupert Everton
- [53:47] – "I declare bankruptcy!" scene
- [66:35] – John Wick tangent
Tone and Style
The episode is bursting with the playful, self-deprecating, and nostalgic energy that defines the Office Ladies podcast. The hosts are unfiltered, honest, and generous with both their laughs and their personal insights, resulting in a listening experience that feels like eavesdropping on a conversation between close friends who were there for The Office’s most iconic moments.
Recap
This episode packs all the depth and joy Office Ladies fans crave: exclusive set stories, deep dives into character moments, warm tributes to cast and crew, and side-splitting digressions that have become the stuff of podcast legend. It’s an essential listen (or read) for fans seeking to relive The Office through the memories, friendships, and voices of its stars.