Second Drink: Take Your Daughter to Work Day

Summary

Office Ladies Episode Summary: "Second Drink: Take Your Daughter to Work Day"

Release Date: April 14, 2025

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Introduction

In the "Second Drink" episode of the Office Ladies podcast, hosts Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey delve into Season 2, Episode 18 of The Office, titled "Take Your Daughter to Work Day." The episode offers a comprehensive breakdown of the episode's content, enriched with behind-the-scenes anecdotes, fan interactions, and detailed analyses of memorable scenes.

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Fan Mail and Jitters Coffee Shop

Jenna kicks off the episode by addressing fan inquiries about the existence of Jitters Coffee Shop mentioned in the episode. She recounts her extensive search:

Jenna Fischer [03:15]: "After this podcast aired, I had really wondered if Jitters the coffee shop was a real place. [Fan Katie N.] wrote in and confirmed that Jitters was indeed a real establishment in various locations, though not specifically in Scranton, Pennsylvania."

Angela adds her sleuthing efforts:

Angela Kinsey [01:38]: "We put on our sleuthing hats and confirmed that's a whole lot of places and a whole lot of acceptance."

This segment not only resolves Jenna's 40-minute hunt but also engages listeners with real-world connections to the show's lore.

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Background Catches and Deleted Scenes

The hosts share intriguing background catches submitted by fans, shedding light on subtle moments viewers might have missed:

• Theresa W.'s Insight [04:06]: Angela and Roy's budding romance is highlighted during a scene where Roy wrestles with Meredith's son, showcasing Angela's appreciation for Roy's strength and fun-loving nature.

• Basma K.'s Observation [05:25]: Toby's interactions with Michael and Creed involve subtle background actions, like Creed removing his shoes, adding depth to his quirky character.

Deleted Scenes: Jenna and Angela discuss deleted scenes reinstated in the Peacock Superfan Episode, including a conference room scene where Angela negotiates the day’s menu—an exchange filled with humor and character development.

Jenna Fischer [06:19]: "I have to just say thank you, everyone, because when I was revisiting our breakdown of this, I was reminded that I spent a very long time trying to find out if Jitters was a real place."

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Fast Facts Segment

Fast Facts provide quick, fascinating tidbits about the episode's production:

1. Casting Children's Roles [12:22]:

   • Melissa (Stanley's Daughter): Played by Jazz Ray Cole, a professional actress known for My Wife and Kids. Cole was 17 during filming, bringing authenticity to her role.
   • Sasha (Toby's Daughter): Portrayed by Delaney Ruth Farrell, the daughter of set dresser Sean Farrell, adding a personal touch to the character.
   • Palmer (Meredith's Son): Played by Spencer Daniels, who reprises his role in later episodes, highlighting continuity in the series.

2. Challenges with Children on Set [17:11]:

   • Angela recounts managing set logistics to accommodate child actors, ensuring their comfort with necessities like snacks and bathroom breaks.

3. Fundle Bundle Inspiration [18:50]:

   • The fictional children’s show Fundle Bundle is inspired by Scranton's real Land of Hatchie Malachi, a beloved local children's program from the 1950s.

4. Recorder Proficiency [45:35]:

   • Rain, Dwight’s character, genuinely plays the recorder—a skill he continues with in later episodes, showcasing actor Rainn Wilson’s musical talents.

Jenna Fischer [14:37]: "She was the daughter of our set dresser, Sean Farrell. So when it came time to do this episode, we kind of had to use her."

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Episode Breakdown: Key Scenes and Analysis

1. Michael Scott’s Vulnerability

A poignant moment unfolds when Michael reveals his past as the star of Fundle Bundle, a children's show reminiscent of real programs.

Michael Scott [32:31]: "It's not that children make me uncomfortable. It's just, why be a dad when you can be a fun uncle?"

Analysis: Fans questioned this line as it seemed contradictory to Michael’s ongoing desire for a family. Jenna and Angela interpret it as Michael’s self-deprecating humor masking his deeper yearning for fatherhood.

Angela Kinsey [33:04]: "And I think in this moment he's just, like, trying to put a good spin on where his life is at for himself."

2. Roy and Meredith’s Son Interaction

Roy bonds with Meredith's son through wrestling, contrasting with Pam’s more subdued attempts to connect.

Theresa W. [04:06]: "Angela sees how strong Roy is and is pleased with him. I think she also sees how fun he can be."

Analysis: This interaction highlights Roy’s natural affinity with children, serving as a foil to Pam’s challenges in bonding, and subtly hints at their potential compatibility as parents.

3. Dwight’s Recorder Playing

Dwight introduces the children to Greensleeves, accompanied by him reading from Struwwelpeter, a German cautionary tale.

Dwight [46:10]: "That was 'Green Sleeves,' an English ballad written about the beheading of Anne Boleyn."

Analysis: Angela explores the darker interpretations of the song’s lyrics, linking them to Angela Martin’s (Angela Kinsey) character traits and adding a layer of irony to Dwight’s strict demeanor.

Angela Kinsey [46:46]: "Green is kind of whorish. I was in my... that's what she shed. And I'm like, green is whorish."

4. Emotional Climax with Michael and Sasha

Michael's interaction with Sasha culminates in a heartfelt moment where she questions his happiness.

Sasha [68:03]: "I guess you didn't get to be what you wanted to be."

Analysis: This moment strips away Michael’s usual bravado, revealing his deep-seated insecurities and unfulfilled desires, leading to an emotional resonance that even made Jenna cry.

Jenna Fischer [68:03]: "I sobbed twice during this episode."

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Behind-the-Scenes Stories

1. Production Challenges:

Jenna shares the difficulty in locating a fictional Jitters coffee shop, exploring real locations in Scranton and beyond.

Jenna Fischer [43:31]: "I spent a good 40 minutes looking for it."

2. Set Design and Props:

Discussions about the authenticity of props, like the Uncle Sam doll and the Struwwelpeter book, enhance the show's realistic office environment.

Angela Kinsey [25:42]: "Sometimes they would strategically put a little piece of paper on the glass partition to block the glare."

3. Costume and Wardrobe:

Carrie Bennett, the wardrobe designer, sourced vintage 1960s outfits for the kids, providing a nostalgic contrast to the modern office setting.

Jenna Fischer [63:04]: "She was great at that. So good and probably so excited because all we wore were gray turtlenecks and beige tops."

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Audience Engagement and Quotes

Throughout the episode, Jenna and Angela integrate listener feedback and questions, fostering a sense of community and shared enthusiasm for The Office.

Angela Kinsey [30:27]: "And so all of a sudden, I'd sit down to do a scene, and I'd be like, what is that?"

Jenna Fischer [26:43]: "Fan question from Michelle Mange. Did Jenna get to decide what candy was sitting at reception? No."

These interactions not only answer fan curiosities but also enrich the discussion with diverse perspectives.

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Conclusion and Reflections

As the episode wraps up, Jenna and Angela reflect on the emotional depth of the episode, acknowledging both its comedic and heartfelt moments.

Angela Kinsey [80:05]: "They are, like. Now they're, like, totally in cahoots."

Jenna Fischer [71:18]: "So Pam's talking to Jim. We got a lot of mail about this little scene."

The hosts emphasize the enduring impact of The Office, highlighting how rewatching episodes with behind-the-scenes insights deepens appreciation for the show's nuanced storytelling and character development.

Jenna Fischer [83:48]: "Thank you for listening to Office Lady's second drink."

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Notable Quotes

• Angela Kinsey [03:13]: "Oh, so it was in the mall."
• Jenna Fischer [06:19]: "I have to just say thank you, everyone..."
• Jenna Fischer [32:31]: "It's not that children make me uncomfortable..."
• Angela Kinsey [46:46]: "Green is kind of whorish."
• Jenna Fischer [68:03]: "I sobbed twice during this episode."
• Angela Kinsey [80:05]: "They are, like. Now they're, like, totally in cahoots."

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Final Thoughts

"Take Your Daughter to Work Day" serves as a microcosm of The Office's brilliance, blending humor with genuine emotion. Through Office Ladies, fans gain an enriched understanding of the episode's layers, both on-screen and behind the scenes, solidifying The Office's place as a beloved classic.

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Feel free to reach out with more questions or insights, and join Jenna and Angela next week for another deep dive into The Office.

Transcript

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

Learn more at discover.com credit card hi there and welcome to your second drink of season two's episode Take youe Daughter to Work Day.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, lady, I went back to our mailbag. Like all the way back to the folder that we had for when this episode of the podcast aired. And I looked for any letters about Take youe Daughter to Work Day that maybe we hadn't answered.

[Angela Kinsey]

Great.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, this is all the way back to 2020.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love it.

[Jenna Fischer]

And let me start with a fan mail flurry because after this podcast aired, I had really wondered if Jitters the coffee shop was a real place. Well, Katie N. Wrote in and said, I am listening to the Take youe Daughter to Work Day episode. And yes, jitters used to be a thing. I grew up in Boulder City, Nevada and that is what we had pre Starbucks. There was also one at the local community College in Henderson, Nevada. Not sure if they ever made it to Scranton, Pennsylvania, but I hope that gives some closure to Jenna's 40 minute hunt for nothing. And Francesca B. Said, there is a Jitters coffee shop in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I don't know when it was established, but the coffee is great and it's very cute. We also got a letter from I am not your Uncle Steve, who said Jitters was a real place in the Steamtown Mall. It was on the corner of the food court and eventually became a candy store.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, so it was in the mall.

[Jenna Fischer]

I guess it was. And then finally, Ms. Rainshuttle said, My friend's husband's family used to own Jitters.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh. You found the people.

[Jenna Fischer]

But the mall refused to renew their lease and replaced it with a Starbucks.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh.

[Jenna Fischer]

But I have to just say thank you, everyone, because when I was revisiting our breakdown of this, I was reminded that I spent a very long time trying to find out if Jitters was a real place. And I appreciate knowing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Well, you guys also sent in some fun background catches for this episode. I love a background catch. This one from Theresa W. Is fantastic. Okay, so listen, you might remember that we had been tracking Angela and Roy, and we had been looking for signs of their romance. And I also loved how Teresa started her letter. Ready?

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

She wrote, okay, okay, okay. Get ready for your mind to be blown. Eight exclamation points. You guys are tracking Angela and Roy. At around 15 minutes of the Bring youg Daughter to Work Day episode, when Roy is wrestling with Meredith's kid, it zooms out to Jim, and in the background is Angela watching Roy wrestle and smiling. I think that Angela sees how strong Roy is and is pleased with him. I think she also sees how fun he can be. And Angela is kind of attracted to that. I mean, I have no doubt that Angela was delighted watching Roy wrestle. Be kind of a dad figure. I think she was into him, you know?

[Jenna Fischer]

Did Angela have more lovers on the show than anyone else? I was thinking about this the other day because she is so judgmental of Pam.

[Angela Kinsey]

The Pam. Pam the office mattress.

[Jenna Fischer]

Exactly. But the truth is, she dated a lot of folks and a lot of folks in the office.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's true. It is true.

[Jenna Fischer]

Andy and Dwight, but also the senator.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Am I missing someone? I feel like there's someone I'm missing.

[Angela Kinsey]

The senator wasn't in the office.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, true, but I don't know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, she did say that she's had more than one set of men duel over her.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, exactly.

[Angela Kinsey]

Another background catch. Comes from Basma K. Basma says Toby does something interesting in the background at 11 minutes and 26 seconds. And then again at 11 minutes and 30 seconds, he's in the kitchen behind the window blinds, quietly watching Michael give a tour of the office to the kids as Creed begins to take off his shoes. I just thought Paul was hilarious in that scene.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know, one of my favorite things about rewatching the show is watching little background moments like this, because we were always just filling the moment with our reactions to things, and you really can't see them all the first time you watch. So I loved this. Thank you for pointing this out. This was very, very fun.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mm.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I noticed that we didn't talk much about the deleted scenes in this episode, and a lot of them have been added back to the peacock superfan episode. My favorite is a new cold, open conference room scene. Angela, you are trying to set the menu for take your daughter to work Day. You have to hear it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think five plain and one veggie should be fine.

[Jenna Fischer]

How about pepperoni?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, I like extra cheese. Absolutely not.

[Jenna Fischer]

I like extra cheese too.

[Angela Kinsey]

Fine. The first lesson we'll teach the children will be about obesity.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then you can't really hear it, but under his breath, B.J. as Ryan goes, thank you, because he's gonna get the pizza he wanted. The other two deleted moments that I wanted to flag, they're real heartbreakers. Actually, the first one was pointed out by Logan T. Who said, I don't know if you noticed this or not, but in Boys and Girls, Pam is drawing a picture that you can see at 14 minutes and 54 seconds. And then it comes up later in a deleted scene of Take youe Daughter to Work Day when Kevin's girlfriend's daughter sees that same picture on Pam's desk.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. While Kevin's fiance's daughter Abby is played by Greg's daughter, Haley.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. So in this episode, Pam is desperately trying to bond with a kid, and at one point, Abby comes up to her desk to get some candy, and Abby and Pam have this little exchange. When Abby notices this drawing. Let's listen.

[Angela Kinsey]

Did you draw that?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Do you like to draw, Abby?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. I want to be an artist when I grow up.

[Jenna Fischer]

Me too. You are a grown up.

[Angela Kinsey]

You are a grown up. I know this is the truth. Out of, like, the mouth of babes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Yes. And then there was also a tag at the end of the episode that is new. In the Superfan episode, it shows Michael continuing to watch the footage from the children's show Remember earlier we see part of the children's show that Ryan had to go to his mom's house to get the tape. But the only part we see in the episode as it originally aired was the part where little Michael is being very awkward and he's saying he wants to have 100 kids so he can have 100 friends so no one can say no to being his friend. But in the footage at the end, little Michael is seen performing magic for the other kids and he's making them laugh. And then at the end, a little girl comes up and whispers in his ear and he smiles like she's maybe flirting with him. It is so touching. And this is one that I really wish lived in the original episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

It is such a tender moment and just again, some of the things I'm loving in these new little nuggets that Dave Rogers is so carefully crafting.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, finally.

[Angela Kinsey]

I just wanted to say thank you to my fellow Looby's lovers out there. You know Luby's, the cafeteria I would go to with my grandparents.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, you talk all about it in this episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I know. Well, Tyler M. From Wichita Falls, Texas.

[Jenna Fischer]

What's up?

[Angela Kinsey]

Wichita Falls, I mean, you know, I know Wichita Falls. I mean, we went there all the time. Tyler says, my great grandparents always took me to Luby's anytime I was with them. Tyler, I bet we were there at the same time.

[Jenna Fischer]

Probably.

[Angela Kinsey]

Tyler says, my heart was warmed hearing Angela rave about it. I got super ecstatic hearing her even just mention Texoma. And next thing you know she mentioned my hometown. And Diana Kay said, growing up in San Antonio, I ate there all the time with my grandparents. It was clearly a grandparents go to. We would meet them there at the same location on Sunday afternoons following church. And it was the highlight of my week. I loved getting my own tray and picking out whatever I wanted, including dessert. And feeling so grown up now when I visit, I try to eat at one at least once. Woohoo. Texas girls unite.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love those. Well, listen. Thanks everyone for listening and please enjoy our breakdown of Take youe Daughter to Work Day. I'm Jenna Fisher.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I'm Angela Kinsey.

[Jenna Fischer]

We were on the Office together and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate Office Rewatch podcast just for you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Each week we will break down an episode of the Office and give exclusive behind the scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're the Office ladies. Hey.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hello.

[Jenna Fischer]

If you have a daughter, you can take her to work today. Yes, it's take your daughter to work day to Dunder Mifflin Season 2 Episode 18 this one's written by Mindy Kaling and directed by Victor Nelly Jr. Victor Nelly. Second one. He's directed.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. Prolific TV director. He's fantastic.

[Jenna Fischer]

We really liked him.

[Angela Kinsey]

He was so nice.

[Jenna Fischer]

Should I start with a summary?

[Angela Kinsey]

Jenna, you. You know that's how you start.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Just do it.

[Jenna Fischer]

I should just do it in order.

[Angela Kinsey]

I like every week, though, that you ask me every week. You're like, should I start with a summary? Like, what if I was like, no, not today, lady.

[Jenna Fischer]

What would I do?

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Would I listen to you or would I just do it anyway?

[Angela Kinsey]

You'd probably be deer in headlights. You know what?

[Jenna Fischer]

Try it some week and we'll see.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, I will.

[Jenna Fischer]

But not this week. You told me to do it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Here I go. In this episode, the Dunder Mifflin employees bring their daughters to work for the day. Stanley brings his teenage daughter who starts crushing on Ryan.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, she's just a version of Mindy, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

A little bit.

[Angela Kinsey]

A little bit.

[Jenna Fischer]

What is it about Ryan? The ladies love Ryan.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Kevin brings his fiance's daughter.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Meredith brings her son. And Toby brings his kind of shy 5 year old daughter who ends up bonding with Michael. Also in this episode, Pam makes it her mission to befriend just one kid. Just one.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. We learned that Pam is not good with kids.

[Jenna Fischer]

Apparently not. All right, should we do our fast facts?

[Angela Kinsey]

Why are you asking me?

[Jenna Fischer]

Because that's part of it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, do them.

[Jenna Fischer]

Part of doing the fast facts is me asking you if I should do the fast facts.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jenna, you should do your fast facts.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, fast fact number one. We got a lot of questions about the kids in this episode, so let's break them down one by one. Stanley's daughter Melissa was played by Jazz Ray Cole.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

And she is a professional actress, no relation to anyone on the show. We hired her. She was also on the sitcom My Wife and Kids. When she shot this episode. She was 17 or 18 years old. So her birthday is in February. And I think that's right around the time we were shooting. And I have this memory of her telling me that she had just turned 18.

[Angela Kinsey]

Aww.

[Jenna Fischer]

When I first came to Los Angeles, I was in my 20s, but I looked like I was a teenager.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right.

[Jenna Fischer]

And so I had this special agent who would send me out for roles to play high school kids, because when you have a kid on a set, they have very limited work hours. They have child hours according to the union rules. And so they can't work as long of days. They have to take these breaks. There has to be a tutor who teaches them school. School stuff. So if you look older than 18, but you can play a kid. This is like a little niche market.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was in 90210.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh my gosh, Angela. No you were not.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was in 90210 and I didn't have lines. My biggest moment though was when I played Tori Spelling's sorority sister and we were collecting votes. I think they were going to vote some girl out of the sorority. And I collected the votes and I had to hand them to Tori. Whoa. Yes. So I remember. I remember it like it was kind of cool if you could get parts like that because you could work longer hours and you were older, playing younger.

[Jenna Fischer]

I got to be in the movie Pleasantville with Tobey Maguire and Reese Witherspoon.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's a good one.

[Jenna Fischer]

Uh huh. And I got to work a whole week, which is really exciting. I was just a featured extra.

[Angela Kinsey]

Me too. When I was the sorority sister, I was the featured extra.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, I was a featured extra in Pleasantville because I was over 18 to play under.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Oh my gosh, I love that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Toby's daughter Sasha was played by Delaney Ruth Farrell. Now here's a little interesting tidbit about her.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

She was the daughter of our set dresser, Sean Farrell.

[Angela Kinsey]

Aw.

[Jenna Fischer]

So you maybe remember we had an establishing shot of Toby's desk a while ago where he explains that he's divorced and he has a daughter. And there is a picture of a little blonde girl. He says, this is Sasha. That picture was placed there by Shawn of his daughter. So when it came time to do this episode, we kind of had to use her.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wait, so did. Wait, did Shawn just sort of make that happen?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, Shawn just put a picture of his daughter on Toby's desk.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, she's very cute.

[Jenna Fischer]

So cute. And she was so good.

[Angela Kinsey]

She did great.

[Jenna Fischer]

Not an actress, just daughter of our set dresser. Yeah. And she's gonna come back again in Family Portrait day. Okay, so now Meredith's son.

[Angela Kinsey]

Meredith's son is. Hard to say.

[Jenna Fischer]

Meredith's son.

[Angela Kinsey]

You guys, Jenna has tried it three times.

[Jenna Fischer]

I have Meredith's son. Meredith's son Palmer was played by Spencer Daniels. No relation to Greg Daniels.

[Angela Kinsey]

Nope.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wikipedia, you're wrong.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, did you hear us fix it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, maybe that was somewhere else.

[Angela Kinsey]

I read Dunderpedia.

[Jenna Fischer]

Maybe it was Dunder. One of the Pedias is saying that Spencer Daniels is Greg Daniels son. He is not.

[Angela Kinsey]

Not the case.

[Jenna Fischer]

Now Spencer is also going to come back in season eight, episode 24, Family Portrait Day. Fan question from curly haired Tess and Hannah Bursell and Lisa Farr and many others. Was Meredith's son played by the same actor when he came back as the stripper for Angela's bachelorette party in season nine?

[Angela Kinsey]

We'll get there, but that's one of the most uncomfortable moments of my life.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, it's the same actor.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. Oh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, yes. Same guy. And he's still acting today. So he is a professional actor.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, that wasn't for him as a person. It was just that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right?

[Angela Kinsey]

It's just a young boy.

[Jenna Fischer]

We met him when he was a boy. Oh, Lord. And then when he was a man, he stripped at your fictional bachelorette party.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then finally there was Kevin's fiance's daughter Abby, who was played by Hailey Daniels, who is Greg Daniels daughter.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. Haley is so, so sweet.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And she did a great job. So good. Not an actor.

[Jenna Fischer]

Not an actor.

[Angela Kinsey]

She did such a great job. Just she had to be very deadpan and I thought she was hilarious.

[Jenna Fischer]

Fast fact number two, a lot of people ask, what was it like to do an episode with all these kids around. Now what did you remember about that, Ange?

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I mean, Haley was in our little accounting nook quite a bit and I just wanted to make sure she was good. Yeah, I think I just wanted to make sure she would like, do. Do you need to go to the bathroom? Do you have snacks? I just sort of became that person.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

But obviously when kids are in an adult work environment, you do change your behavior or you should.

[Jenna Fischer]

So I remember we got a little lecture about it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, we got a little talking to you.

[Angela Kinsey]

We got a little talking to you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Actually at the beginning of filming.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, at the beginning of filming, just like, hey, guys, there's gonna be kids on set. Let's just mind our manners today. And actually when Michael and you have that scene in the cold open where you're like, michael, I talked to you about this. That actually reminded me of whenever we had people visiting the set. Yeah, whenever. Sometimes families would visit the set. They would win like some type of visit and a whole family would come. And a lot of times R A D Kelly Cantley would be like, hey, everyone, heads up. Young children.

[Jenna Fischer]

Keep it G rated.

[Angela Kinsey]

Not that we were like a body group, but you know, it's like a group of adults all day.

[Jenna Fischer]

I feel like when there weren't kids around though, there was quite a bit of cursing.

[Angela Kinsey]

There were. Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's. You know. So there were adult words. There were adult words, but besides that, we weren't.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, super.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like weird or inappropriate or anything.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, but our scripts were. Half the time. Half the time there were things that were said within the context of a script where I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's true. Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, Fast fact number three. This was sent in by a fan. I loved this. Thank you so much. Kelly Nudo. She tipped me off to the fact that Funnel Bundle, you know, the little TV program that Michael was on as a child in this episode, it was inspired by a real local children's program in Scranton called the Land of Hatchie Malachi.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my Lord, I love that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, it was a little program for kids that started in the 50s. It ran for almost 25 years.

[Angela Kinsey]

Local.

[Jenna Fischer]

Local Scranton. Yes. It featured songs and appearances by kids just like our version. It was originally hosted by a woman named Nancy Berg, who was referred to as Miss Nancy. And then it was hosted by Ms. Judy, who was played by Lois Burns. I don't know why they called her Miss Judy when her name was Lois, but they did. And of course, in our version, we had Ms. Trudy, who was played by actress Sue Nelson and Edward R. Meow. Yes. But this was really sweet. Lois, who played Ms. Judy, was interviewed recently about her time on the Land of Hatchie Malachi. And she loves Hachi Malachi. Hatchie Malachi.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hachi Malachi. Sorry. It just makes me laugh.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay. What did she say about the Land of Hatchie Malachi?

[Jenna Fischer]

She said that their goal was to make sure that every kid knew they were important. Aw.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love that. I love that little tidbit. Thank you, Kelly, for writing in, because that is, like, I don't even know how we would find that.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, that's so great. Thank you. It's not on any of the website that I usually go to for research.

[Angela Kinsey]

For the deep dive.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. All right, thank you. She's over on Office Ladies Pod over on our Insta. She sent me a message.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, that's so cool.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thanks.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right. Those were some really good fast facts, lady. High five.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, high five me.

[Angela Kinsey]

That was Jenna and I high fiving.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's kind of awkward because we have to reach across the table and two.

[Jenna Fischer]

Microphones and I always worry about your cards.

[Angela Kinsey]

Don't mess up my cards.

[Jenna Fischer]

Don't mess up your cards.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right, let's take a break and come back and get into this episode.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Angela, do you have A favorite sandwich. I'm not gonna let you answer. I'm gonna answer my own question.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love Boar's Head Honey Turkey. This is my go to sandwich. It is my only sandwich. My son takes this sandwich to school. My husband eats this sandwich every day for lunch. We love Boar's Head Honey Turkey. It is on our shopping list every single, single week. £1 boar's head honey turkey.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know, me and ham. I mean, my nickname was ham bone in high school. So I love some boar's head smoked master uncured ham. Put it on a sandwich, eat it off a plate without any bread, roll it up with some cheese. I'm going to eat it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, they wanted us to talk about boar's head and we sure are doing it. For over a century, Boar's Head has been dedicated to craftsmanship. Hand trimmed meats, carefully selected spices, and authentic cooking techniques like slow roasting and fire grilling. And that is what makes every bite unforgettable.

[Angela Kinsey]

Discover the craftsmanship behind every bite at your local Boar's Head deli counter.

[Jenna Fischer]

Boar's Head, committed to craft since 1905. Imagine if you could ask someone anything you wanted about their finances. How much do you make? Who paid for that fancy dinner? What did your house actually cost? On every episode of what We Spend, a different guest opens up their wallets, opens up their lives, really, and tells us all about their finances. For one week, they tell us everything.

[Angela Kinsey]

They spend their money on. My son slammed like $6 worth of.

[Jenna Fischer]

Blueberries in five minutes. This is a podcast about all the.

[Angela Kinsey]

Ways money comes into our lives and then leaves again.

[Jenna Fischer]

Which of course, we all have a.

[Angela Kinsey]

Lot of feelings about.

[Jenna Fischer]

I really want these things. I want to own a house, I want to have a child. But this morning I really wanted a coffee. Because whatever you are buying or not buying or saving or spending, at the end of the day, money is always.

[Angela Kinsey]

About more than your balance.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm Courtney Harrell and this is what we spend, listen to, and follow what we spend. An Odyssey original podcast available now wherever you get your podcasts.

[Angela Kinsey]

So I love a tote bag. I love a purse. It's my little splurge for myself. And some of the brands out there can get really pricey. So I love Rebag because it's. It is a luxury resale platform that buys and sells designer handbags, watches, fine jewelry and more, providing an accessible and sustainable alternative to buying new. It's so great that these are being repurposed.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, you can shop weekly. New arrivals from top brands, including Louis Vuitton and cartier. So yeah, if you want to buy or sell an investment worthy bag, watch or find jewelry, check out Rebag.com. the website is awesome. They have like really detailed descriptions so you know exactly what to expect out of your purchase. They take a lot of care in their packaging so, you know, even just unboxing your purchase feels luxurious.

[Angela Kinsey]

Shop now on Rebag.com and get 10% off your first purchase with code officeladies.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, we're back. Let's start breaking down this episode. We open with a Pam talking head.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

She explains that it's take your daughter to work day. And she says, I'm not actually great with kids, but I want to get better because I'm getting married. So she's going to put out lots of extra candy on her desk.

[Angela Kinsey]

Lots of candy. She got like a potted plant. Did you see that? That was like a last minute store craft. There's like all of a sudden a plant.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, I did not notice that.

[Angela Kinsey]

I have a little thing for my background pals. All right, at nine seconds, freeze frame. You're gonna see over your shoulder. It's on the accounting side.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

The uncle Sam. Do you remember the uncle Sam? Oh, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Why did we have that guy?

[Angela Kinsey]

It was a doll of uncle Sam. Yeah, he had the 4th of July hat on. He had a flag. You could hit a button and I think he would play yankee doodle dandy or something. I don't know. It sat there.

[Jenna Fischer]

When did he show up? From the beginning.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think he's there from the beginning. I, I mean, I have a memory of him because like I would turn around to go and talk to you. He's what I would pass first. So the first time I turned around, I was like, oh, God. History of uncle sam is a common national personification of the U. S. Federal government. According to legend, it came into use during the War of 1812 and was supposedly named for Samuel Wilson.

[Jenna Fischer]

Who was Samuel Wilson?

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I'll click on him. I'll tell you where.

[Jenna Fischer]

Are you reading? Is this Wikipedia?

[Angela Kinsey]

Wikipedia. Samuel Wilson was a meat packer from Troy, New York, whose name is purportedly the source of the personification of the United States. Uncle Sam.

[Jenna Fischer]

Kind of looks like it's going in a circle.

[Angela Kinsey]

It is going in a circle.

[Jenna Fischer]

I need to know more about meatpacker sam.

[Angela Kinsey]

Meatpacker Sam. Anyway, that's uncle Sam. He sat over my shoulder for nine years.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think I'm going to spend more time on that after the podcast is over. So if you want more Uncle Sam facts. I might bring them to our candy bag.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay. Bring them to the candy bag.

[Jenna Fischer]

So I noticed something for kind of the detail, folks. At 21 seconds, the candy on Pam's desk is suckers and lifesavers.

[Angela Kinsey]

Lollipop things.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, it pretty much stays that way. However, in the previous shot at 10 seconds, there's a bowl of lemon drops, a bowl of starburst, and a candy dish full of jelly beans.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then those are gone. And then there's lollipops.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Candy continuity.

[Jenna Fischer]

Candy continuity.

[Angela Kinsey]

What happened?

[Jenna Fischer]

And then I hold up bags of even more candy, which is none of those things.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's like Jolly Ranchers. Yep, I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Fan question from Michelle Mange. Did Jenna get to decide what candy was sitting at reception? No.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm gonna say no.

[Jenna Fischer]

They just gave it to me. But she also wants to know, how often did you guys eat it?

[Angela Kinsey]

A lot.

[Jenna Fischer]

I ate a ton of that candy all the time, everybody. I would get sick.

[Angela Kinsey]

People would walk up, and you would think they were coming to talk to you, but they were just coming for candy.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's true.

[Angela Kinsey]

I remember you would sometimes be like, oh, hey. And then it was just like, digging in the candy bowl.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't remember you eating a lot of it. Do you have a sweet tooth? I don't think of you as having a candy sweet tooth.

[Angela Kinsey]

No. No, I don't. Yep.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're different that way.

[Angela Kinsey]

We're different.

[Jenna Fischer]

I do. All right. So now Michael comes out of his office, and Pam explains that he cannot be nasty today because kids are coming.

[Angela Kinsey]

Name's Pam, Ms. Beasley, if you're nasty. Oh, I'm sorry. Are you having a wardrobe malfunction? Janet Jackson? You're like, no, stop.

[Jenna Fischer]

Shut it down, Michael. So Michael is very annoyed. He has a talking head. He says he you. Why is he gonna be held back today? He is like Eddie Murphy in Raw.

[Angela Kinsey]

He is hbo. No limits.

[Jenna Fischer]

No limits. And now we're asking him to be Eddie Murphy in Daddy Daycare.

[Angela Kinsey]

No.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, can you. Why are we doing this to him?

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. He. I mean, I love that he thinks of as his workplace, as, like, a place where R rated content is.

[Jenna Fischer]

Should be. That's.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's where it happens. Is at work. He's like a human resources nightmare. He is.

[Jenna Fischer]

So Pam convinces Michael to welcome the kids. He comes out into the bullpen. He tries to welcome them. I don't know. He. He really is not into it.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's not into it, but he tries to compare it, like, hmm, let me. Let me put this in speak. Oh, I should compare myself to a superhero. And so he's like, I'm like the, you know, guy. I'm like Superman in Gotham City. And it's the one time, like, it. This happens so rarely when Jim and Dwight are both on the same page. They're like, that's Batman. And he's like, fine, I'm Aquaman. But it's like Jim and Dwight were actually, like, together.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's true.

[Angela Kinsey]

One moment for that.

[Jenna Fischer]

One moment to correct Michael.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Okay. Can we just talk about how cute the little girl that plays Sasha is?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And when Paul, as Toby, walks her through the kitchen, and then Dwight's like, hello, tiny one. You are the future. Like, just Dwight's idea. And, like, how he sees children. It just made me laugh.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think Toby seems like a really good father in this episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

I do too.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. He has the most kind of. He's gentle parental instincts. Of all the people that we see parenting in this episode, I agree.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think Toby's a great dad. He might be a little sad, but he's a great dad.

[Jenna Fischer]

So now we go to the scene in accounting where Kevin is explaining his file cabinet to Abby.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, man.

[Jenna Fischer]

She's thrilled.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's thrilled. I mean, you know, he's showing her the file cabinet, but there is a giant vat of M&Ms.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like, why doesn't he just say, do you want some M and Ms?

[Jenna Fischer]

At 2 minutes, 30 seconds. We had a fan catch.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, Fayell.

[Jenna Fischer]

1, 2, 3. Says Angela has a dog photo on her side of the partition. Angela, she is not the only person who noticed this. Michelle Sexton also noticed we got two emails about this dog poster on your partition. Michelle wants to know, what does the sign say? I tried to look at it, and I couldn't tell what it says.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, well, actually, there's a great screen grab of it at 44 seconds.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

The dog is actually holding up a sign, and it says, will love for food.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I think it's like an adoption or, like, food donation or something for animals.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you remember this going up? Why did it all of a sudden appear on your side of the podcast?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, it wasn't normally there. And I will tell you guys this. I don't know specifically why this one went up at that moment, but I can tell you, sometimes Matt Sohn, our B camera operator, or Randall Einhorn, a camera would need to be shooting and accounting, and they were quite a bit for this episode. And that glass partition would make a glare.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

And so sometimes they would strategically put a little piece of paper of some kind on the glass partition to sort of block the bounce of that glare. Oh.

[Jenna Fischer]

So that they wouldn't get their own reflection in the glass.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And so they did that sometimes. So all of a sudden, I'd sit down to do a scene, and I'd be like, what is that?

[Jenna Fischer]

Where are all these papers?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And it would be to sort of block that glare and them being able to see the camera or the boom.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my gosh. So the dog paper was a glare blocker.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think the way they were shooting to catch Abby through the partition and Kevin, there was a glare, and so they put that up. They would often do that. And then that's when I would have random signs on the partition. And you know that Kevin and I. I've said this before. Of everywhere in the bullpen. We're the only desk pod with a partition.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

And you know, my backstory for this is, I think, Angela Martin request, because Kevin's disgusting.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, next we move to Kevin's talking head, where he just says he really hopes that Abby doesn't look on his computer.

[Angela Kinsey]

Why is Kevin such a perv?

[Jenna Fischer]

This is the second time he's worried about what's on his computer. I mean, Kevin, did you learn nothing after email surveillance? I know, but also, you didn't scrub your computer after that.

[Angela Kinsey]

Also, Kevin, just stop being gross.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, so now Stanley introduces Michael to his daughter Melissa.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, man.

[Jenna Fischer]

She's wearing some headphones. Michael says, wow. How do we explain what Michael says?

[Angela Kinsey]

He says, she's a stone cold fox.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. And to keep the frat boys away from her.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then she Sundays, I'm in eighth grade.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. She's a middle schooler.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, Michael, that was really awkward.

[Jenna Fischer]

This moves us into Michael's talking head where he says, this is a quote that a lot of people emailed about. He says, it's not that children make me uncomfortable. It's just, why be a dad when you can be a fun uncle? And a lot of people thought that this was a continuity error because we've heard so much about how Michael wants a family and wants to have kids. And they were saying, why does Michael say that he doesn't want to be a dad?

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, no, he's not saying that.

[Jenna Fischer]

He's. He's compensating for the fact that he's not a dad.

[Angela Kinsey]

I guess he is just giving himself a pep talk.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

All Michael wants to do is have a family.

[Jenna Fischer]

For sure.

[Angela Kinsey]

For sure. And I think in this moment he's just, like, trying to put a good spin on where his life is at for himself.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think so, too. Yeah, I think so, too.

[Angela Kinsey]

It kind of made me sad because, you know, that's not really where his heart's at.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, well, just wait. I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Made it sadder.

[Jenna Fischer]

I sobbed twice during this episode. We'll get to that.

[Angela Kinsey]

At 3 minutes, 31 seconds, we meet Jake, Meredith's son. Yeah, Meredith's son.

[Jenna Fischer]

Meredith's son. A hard thing to say.

[Angela Kinsey]

He was suspended from school. He's kind of a rascal.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's a nice way to put it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. I wrote a different word. It rhymes with smash mo. But, yeah, he's just not nice. And I'm like. I mean, he's, like, throwing things at people. He's like a name insulting people. I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

His shirt. Did you see what his shirt says? Yes, it says something like, I have already forgotten your name.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, that's what it says.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, Meredith.

[Angela Kinsey]

Meredith.

[Jenna Fischer]

Why are you letting him walk around with that ongoing? Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, so the next scene I love. It's 3 minutes, 44 seconds. We're in the conference room. We're setting up for something. It looks like there might be a party aspect to this day.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's you, Kelly, and Ryan.

[Angela Kinsey]

Kelly's helping me put a tablecloth on the conference room. But she's.

[Jenna Fischer]

I just want to say, remember in the Christmas episode when you. Pam is not helping you put it on.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Kelly is also not really helping you put it on anytime there's a party.

[Angela Kinsey]

I totally relate to Angela because you guys are a bunch of jerks that. You know what?

[Jenna Fischer]

I have a feeling that every time we try to help you with that tablecloth, you yell at us.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't think so.

[Jenna Fischer]

And that's why we're not helping you with it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't think so.

[Jenna Fischer]

You probably nitpick how we're doing it. That's what I. Why does no one help you with the tablecloth?

[Angela Kinsey]

Because you're a bunch of slackers.

[Jenna Fischer]

Nope. You're a bunch of slackers. Because you'll say, just as you at. You're about to shoot down a child. And so I'm just saying. Anyway, this might be why it's all on you.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's trying to set up for this party. Ryan and Kelly aren't helping. I mean, Kelly's looking at Ryan. Ryan's like, don't look at me. And I'm in the meantime, like, eh. Anyway, Toby walks in with Sasha, his daughter, and she very sweetly says, can I Help. So sweet.

[Jenna Fischer]

So sweet.

[Angela Kinsey]

Angela's like, no, no. I'd have to explain everything to you. No. And then Kelly, I look at Kelly and I'm like, no. And I love Paul's delivery of, like, well, I didn't see it going that way.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Like, he's like, it's not what I was expecting.

[Angela Kinsey]

Not. Not what I was expecting.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. I love that scene.

[Angela Kinsey]

Kelly was so excited. She's like, I love babies. I can't wait to have babies. Ryan is really funny in this episode. BJ is great. He has some really funny moments. And he's just like, basically, Kelly, just her idea of hooking up is just having babies with me as soon as possible.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, his talking head, he's like, kelly and I agreed we were just gonna have fun. But what I'm realizing is that fun for Kelly means getting married and having babies as soon as possible with me. So that's her definition of having fun.

[Angela Kinsey]

And don't hook up with anyone like that on February 13th.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's right. I like your line in this scene, Angela.

[Angela Kinsey]

I get quoted this a lot.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

When she asked me if I would like to have kids. And I say, well, maybe some small, well behaved boys.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

So weird.

[Jenna Fischer]

Small, well behaved boys.

[Angela Kinsey]

Small. I don't want big, big boys.

[Jenna Fischer]

Apparently not.

[Angela Kinsey]

I want tiny, petite boys.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, so next up, Michael is on the phone to corporate, and Toby's daughter Sasha walks in. Yeah, she. Then she leaves, but then she comes back later and starts playing with his toy train.

[Angela Kinsey]

They're so sweet together.

[Jenna Fischer]

So sweet.

[Angela Kinsey]

Michael's so tickled. He's having such a great time with her.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know. They do the train whistle and he really.

[Angela Kinsey]

Steve. When we were filming that, Steve actually kept making the kids crack up. Do you remember that? I remember how hard it was for Haley to keep a straight face. And Delaney, too. Steve was cracking her up. It was really sweet.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, we had a couple fan questions about that. Katie Procido said, I always love episodes where we get to see Michael interacting with kids, because you can just tell that Steve Carell likes being around kids.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's a great dad.

[Jenna Fischer]

He is. And Beth White said, is Steve really this good with kids in real life? Yes, he is.

[Angela Kinsey]

He is.

[Jenna Fischer]

He is. The kids were so tickled by him.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's a sweetheart.

[Jenna Fischer]

And we should say, you mentioned earlier, Angela, how families would sometimes come and visit. Steve was such a great ambassador for the show. He would always go into our green room and meet the families and take the kids on a little tour and show them his Office. Yes. Well, I think now Pam is gonna try to get Abby to help her shred some old documents.

[Angela Kinsey]

Shut down.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Pam gets shut down.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, Abby's reading on the couch in reception. But then Jim says, hey, I've read that book. Yeah, they have a little banter.

[Angela Kinsey]

They bond.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Abby agrees to help him with sales. Now, I want to say something here.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, okay. I feel a soapbox coming.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's tiny. It's a very. It's a small opinion.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Observation.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Jim knows that it's Pam's goal to befriend a kid, but rather than help her bond with Abby, he just kind of shows off and steals Abby away.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think this is all hurt feelings, Pam talking, because. But did you notice?

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, I thought that was a little bit of, like, passive aggressive. I don't know what it is, but it was a little bit of, like, come on, it's not that hard. I can do it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like Jim watch me bond with a kid.

[Angela Kinsey]

So it's like a competition?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. It felt a little bit weirdly competitive.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hmm. Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you not see that?

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I guess I do. I guess I also just thought Jim was being really nice.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, he knows Pam's goal. And I think if he were really being nice at the end of that whole spiel, he would have said, and, Pam, why don't you join us?

[Angela Kinsey]

Or he might have said, do you know who else loves books? Pam.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Yes. This is what I'm saying. He doesn't help facilitate anything. He just comes in and shows off.

[Angela Kinsey]

Maybe it's not his job to help Pam.

[Jenna Fischer]

It is. It is his job to help her.

[Angela Kinsey]

Pam is not his responsibility. Pam is getting married. He's ticked off.

[Jenna Fischer]

See, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what's underneath it. See, before they got in all these little fights and all the wedding date was set. I think Jim would have facilitated, maybe. But now he's like, boundary Jim. Now he's like, I have boundaries. I don't help you anymore because I'm not your fiance.

[Angela Kinsey]

Also, maybe I'm practicing self care. Pam.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow. I see what side you're on.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, okay, okay, here we go.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, let's talk about how Dwight is doing with the kids.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, let's.

[Jenna Fischer]

Abby is hanging out with Jim, and Jim's doing that thing where, you know, she's shaking his hand. He's like, oh, man, you're crushing me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, wait, I watched this with Isabel.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

And so when Dwight's like, You're not even. She's not that tough. I'll show you. She's like, what is wrong with Dwight, Mom?

[Jenna Fischer]

He's so literal.

[Angela Kinsey]

He is. He is childlike himself.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's true. It's true. And then after that, Meredith's son comes over to Dwight's desk and starts touching all his bobbleheads.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hold up. Where's the Dwight bobblehead?

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, Melinda Magercuth would like to know that as well. 7 minutes, 1 second. Where is Angela's gift to Dwight?

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you, Melinda. I am hoping, Melinda, that Dwight saw all those children there and feared for its safety and with loving care, locked it in his drawer. He has one drawer that locks. It's on the left side of his desk. And I hope it's locked there for safety.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know what? Let's say that that's where it is. During this scene, Meredith's son refers to Meredith as Meredith.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Dwight is Mr. Poop.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, he's being a jerk.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's being a jerk. And Jim and Abby laugh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, they think it's so funny.

[Angela Kinsey]

They're, like. Now they're, like, totally in cahoots. I loved when Sasha goes up to Phyllis and says, are you Mother Goose?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. We were also tickled by that when we read it at the table. Read. I remember I laughed so hard at that observation. If anyone should ever be cast as Mother Goose, it is Phyllis.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Phyllis's reaction, though, is so brilliant. And so Isabel and I were watching it together, so we. We went and we wanted to see what a picture of Mother Goose looked like.

[Jenna Fischer]

Does it look like Phyllis?

[Angela Kinsey]

It looks like Phyllis.

[Jenna Fischer]

100%. 100%. You're showing me a drawing of Mother Goose, and it looks like Phyllis, and.

[Angela Kinsey]

She'S even, like, wearing purple. You know what I mean?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know. Phyllis was wearing purple in the scene this whole episode. And I wondered if they sort of looked at.

[Jenna Fischer]

She was always in purple.

[Angela Kinsey]

She was in purple a lot.

[Jenna Fischer]

If you went to Phyllis's house and looked in her closet, it would just.

[Angela Kinsey]

Be purple outfits and lots of, like, beaded jewelry.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. She always had a lot.

[Angela Kinsey]

Always some beaded necklace. Beaded necklace. Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's so true. And I just realized.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

You kind of took your daughter to work.

[Angela Kinsey]

I. Oh, because she watched it.

[Jenna Fischer]

She watched it with you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, I guess I did.

[Jenna Fischer]

You took your daughter to work for take your daughter to work day for office ladies?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I did.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's kind of sweet.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's so funny. All right, seven minutes, 53 seconds. We're back. In the kitchen, and Melissa and Ryan are talking, and Melissa's like. So I thought it was really funny in sort of the way they wrote her 8th grade brain to try to impress Ryan is that she just drinks coffee all day.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

The ice matcha lot of whatever's all day.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. She can't get enough of them.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Ryan, you're such a dork. You haven't been to Jitters. Oh, my God. Give me your phone number. He's like, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Speaking of jitters at Steamtown Mall. So Steamtown Mall is a real place.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, we've been there.

[Jenna Fischer]

The center of the city of Scranton.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I could not find a Jitters today or in the past. I spent a good 40 minutes looking for it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, that's 40 minutes of your life you're not never getting back.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm never getting back. But, guys, if there is or ever was a Jitters, will you let me know?

[Angela Kinsey]

Because Jenna needs that 40 minutes back.

[Jenna Fischer]

I just need. You need to validate.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, validate that 40 minutes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, during this whole conversation about Jitters in the kitchen, Kelly.

[Angela Kinsey]

Kelly is vicious. Kelly is the type of gal that if you step on her, like, territory, like her man space in any way, she's going to burn you to the ground.

[Jenna Fischer]

And she does.

[Angela Kinsey]

She decimates Ryan.

[Jenna Fischer]

She goes and tattles immediately to Stanley.

[Angela Kinsey]

She points. She was like, I have something fishy going on over there.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't know. They're tattooing.

[Angela Kinsey]

I've been watching them all day.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Stanley is pissed.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay. This leads us to the scene that we got more mail than any other scene in this episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

The scene when Stanley confronts Ryan in the break room. This was called out as many people's favorite fan question from Chris Johnson. How many takes did it take to get the Stanley Ryan scene?

[Angela Kinsey]

I tried to text Leslie. We need to get Leslie in here.

[Jenna Fischer]

We do.

[Angela Kinsey]

I tried to reach out to him. Hopefully we'll hear about.

[Jenna Fischer]

He's traveling right now.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's traveling. Okay. So I know from the bloopers. Because there are great bloopers on YouTube of this.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

That he completely made BJ lose it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yeah. Season two bloopers at the three minute mark. I watched it as well.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay. Stanley is letting Ryan have it. Leslie improvised a ton. That whole thing, like, Jesus isn't gonna help you. None of them are gonna help you. He was fantastic in that scene. And now we're going back to the conference room, and Dwight is playing the recorder for the kids, and he's got this on the table. He's got corn husk and plates and cups of ribbons and things.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

There's going to be some kind of crafting project.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. I had a fan question from Laura.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Rain's recorder playing is top notch. Did he really play the recorder or was it added in later?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, he really played that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, he played the bassoon in high school.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

He plays the recorder again in the bird funeral.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

When Pam sings along. So Rain is recorder proficient.

[Angela Kinsey]

He is a recorder player.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, he is now. He's also reading a book.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wait, wait, before we get to that. Oh, hold up. This is big. This is one of my biggest cards of this episode. What is. He might not be saying much. This is a big card for me. He finishes playing the song and he goes, that was green sleeves. It's an English ballad written about the beheading of Anne Boleyn.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

So, you know, I did a term paper on Anne Boleyn in college. I love Anne Boleyn. No, in high school. Oh, yes, in high school. Senior term paper. But I looked up Greensleeves. Okay. This was fascinating to me. Sorry about to geek out on you guys a little bit. There is a persistent belief that Greensleeves was composed by Henry VIII for his lover, Anne Boleyn. Here's what really threw me for a loop. Ready?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

There's this other interpretation of the lyrics. Ready?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Lady Greensleeves was a promiscuous young woman, even perhaps a prostitute.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

At the time, the word green had sexual connotations, most notably in the phrase a green gown, a reference to the grass stains on a woman's dress from engaging in sexual intercourse in a field somewhere.

[Jenna Fischer]

Green is kind of whorish.

[Angela Kinsey]

Green is kind of whorish. This justifies that whole line for Angela Martin. I freaked out. I was in my. That's what she shed. And I'm like, green is whorish. I'm sure my neighbors were like, what is happening? Lady Green was like a dirty color.

[Jenna Fischer]

Great find, Angela.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

That is some deep diving historian type work on the Internet to prove a reference line from the office. Well done.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

I give you this.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

I want to give you that.

[Angela Kinsey]

I take that. I take that.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right. So also in this scene, he is reading a book called Struwelpeter. We had a fan question from Tyler O'Donnell. Was the story that Dwight reads the kids a real folk tale, or was it something the writers made up? Gang, it's real. It's real. Loosely translated, it means shaggy. Peter. It was a German.

[Angela Kinsey]

Dirty, shaggy. Don't wave your shaggy Peter at me. It sounds inappropriate.

[Jenna Fischer]

It does.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, so it's a story about shaggy people.

[Jenna Fischer]

I went out last night and this guy had such a shaggy Peter.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jenna, we're gonna get the E. All right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, so it is a German book.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Cautionary tales for children.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay. Written by heinrich Hoffman in 1845. Now, I found this fascinating. Heinrich Hoffman wanted to get a Christmas present for his three year old son.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

And he could not find a good children's book.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm sorry, Heinrich.

[Jenna Fischer]

So he wrote his own. He wrote it himself.

[Angela Kinsey]

About shaggy Peter?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. He wrote Strewelpeter Strue Elpeter. And it was so sort of popular, I guess, among people that Heinrich knew that it was eventually published.

[Angela Kinsey]

Let's cut off their thumbs.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, exactly.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's in the story.

[Jenna Fischer]

Here's a super crazy fact.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

In 1891, Mark Twain wrote a translation of this book that he called Slovenly Peter.

[Angela Kinsey]

Slovenly Peter, Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Which was published, but not until 1935, 25 years after Mark Twain died.

[Angela Kinsey]

And you and I are going to write our version called Shaggy pete.

[Jenna Fischer]

There are 10 stories in this book. So in addition to the thumb sucking story that Dwight reads the kids, which is true. And in the book, there is also a story about a little girl who plays with matches, accidentally lights herself on fire and dies. Then there's the story of a boy who doesn't want to eat his soup for dinner. He holds out for five days and then starves to death and dies.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do all the kids die or get maimed?

[Jenna Fischer]

No, no, not all of them. Some of them live through their rebellions.

[Angela Kinsey]

But are forever, like, sort of maimed.

[Jenna Fischer]

Or maimed or sort of just, you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Know, not the same emotionally, kind of.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, that's fun. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

So that's. That's the book. It's real.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we really get a window into Dwight and Angela's childhoods in this episode.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, Dwight grew up reading these stories with his grandmother.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then Angela is like, listen, my father was a strict disciplinarian, so you better whip these kids into shape.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's right.

[Angela Kinsey]

They are. They are a perfect match. I say it over and over. They really are.

[Jenna Fischer]

They really are. At 9 minutes, 47 seconds, we do pan to the table where Dwight has laid out supplies to make corn husk dolls. No one ever makes them, but there is. Supplies are there. We had a fan question from Lauren Paige, who actually made the Cornhuse dolls that Dwight plans to make with the kids. Was it Phil Shea?

[Angela Kinsey]

I would say Phil Shea.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was, Lauren.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Phil Shea was responsible for all of those items on the table.

[Angela Kinsey]

Phil Shea is a jack of many trades. Like, he really had to do a lot.

[Jenna Fischer]

He does.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I just love it that now our questions come in with, like, specifics.

[Angela Kinsey]

They know. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Am I spotting a Phil Shea moment? Yes, Lauren, you're spotting a Phil Shea moment. I think we should take a little break.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Because Michael is about to give the kids a tour of the office, and I think that deserves its own space.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right? It's really sweet.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's sweet.

[Angela Kinsey]

Let's take a break.

[Jenna Fischer]

Take a break.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I am, because, listen, we have this one sort of, like, side of the house area that you can't see anything around that way. And a lot of our shrubbery has grown in, which is nice. But I was like, josh, I'd like to also know what's happening around there.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

That's simplisafe.com officeladies. There's no safe like Simplisafe. All right, we're back. We got some food. There's a bagel bar. Angela's eating an everything bagel with as.

[Angela Kinsey]

Much butter as I could put on it. Don't judge me.

[Jenna Fischer]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

Don't judge me. Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

We won't judge you because we can't understand you.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love butter.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, Angela, before we get started, I want to take a moment because I feel like there's something I have to say to you.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's just like a do I need a glass of wine Moment. Like, is it that big of a moment or my. Okay, my bagel and butter.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're fine with your bagel and butter? Okay, I feel like it's something that I need to say. I'm saying it reluctantly, yet with enthusiasm.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is it about my hair today?

[Jenna Fischer]

Nope.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's not about your hair. All right, I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. But once I say it, it's been said. I love Game of Thrones.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. Yes. I told you you would. I told you you would. Where are you? What's happened?

[Jenna Fischer]

End of season one.

[Angela Kinsey]

Spoilers.

[Jenna Fischer]

End of season one.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, Khaleesi out of the fire. I mean, Angela with her dragons.

[Jenna Fischer]

When Khaleesi rises out of the fire.

[Angela Kinsey]

I am Khaleesi, first of my name, Mother of dragons.

[Jenna Fischer]

She's got three baby dragons on her.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I was like. I was. I was like, oh, my God. I am Khaleesi with three baby dragons, and my dragons are just gonna get bigger. I was like, I'm a Woman coming into her own. I'm with you, Khaleesi. Everyone out there who was really. I got a lot of mail and support from people out there who were like, jenna, you do not need to watch Game of Thrones. You do not need to. We, like, we were in it together. I feel like I'm letting some folks down.

[Angela Kinsey]

You told me it was a soap opera, a fantasy soap opera.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, it is a fantasy soap opera a little bit. I do stand by that.

[Angela Kinsey]

But it's standing in that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, you know what? I'm just gonna say that I was wrong about it, but I do. I'm gonna stand by the Star Wars.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay. Okay. You know what? I'll take it. I'll take it. I got one. I got one. I got got with you. Yeah, I'm good.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm in it. I'm in it to win it on got. Okay. Michael takes the kids over to Creed and he says, this is Creed. He's in charge of something.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right?

[Jenna Fischer]

And Creed says that is correct.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Because Creed doesn't delivery. Creed doesn't know what he's in charge of.

[Jenna Fischer]

Creed doesn't know either. No one knows.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then. And then, of course, Creed is like the showstopper crowd pleaser when he's like, you want to see a foot with four toes?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And they're so excited. And Creed is giddy. Creed can't wait to show him.

[Jenna Fischer]

Finally, someone wants to see his four toes. I know, but he says, don't worry. Like, the hair covers up most of it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. What is. He has hobbit feet?

[Jenna Fischer]

I guess so.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hobbit, Jenna. Lord of the Rings.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm sorry, I'm not gonna go there. I know. I'm not gonna. That I will. I mean, I might watch a Star wars one day, but you are not getting me into the Lord of the Rings. That is where I draw the line.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, fine.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, so we go into the conference room and all the kids are in there and they're eating candy. And this is when Michael tells them that he used to be the star.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

He calls himself the star of a TV show called Fundle Bundle.

[Angela Kinsey]

Here's my question for you. Because as I watched this, I kept thinking about. This is just Michael's memory of this, just through rose colored glasses. He doesn't really remember what it was like. He's recreated sort of he's rewritten history, if you will. Right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

That he was the star and it was a great thing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. I mean, I think that's pretty common. I'M thinking of the time, for example, that I got to be on the radio reading a poem about the St. Louis Cardinals during the World Series.

[Angela Kinsey]

How old were you?

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, I was probably last year. No, I was like 10. I was 10. Yeah. Because it was the 84 World Series, I believe. So I was 10. Okay. And my memory of it is that I was a radio star, but I'm sure if I heard the audio, it's me. Like, roses are red, violets are blue. I love the Cardinals and so do you. Right. Like, I was probably not the poetry.

[Angela Kinsey]

Reader you are now.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. And he knows what this poem really was. But in my mind, it was such a fabulous poem. It got live on the radio and we all listened, you know, So I think that's what's happened in Michael's brain.

[Angela Kinsey]

He has this childlike nostalgia of what. What that was.

[Jenna Fischer]

And fun little bundle, if it was anything like the land of Hatchie. Malachi was a big deal in Scranton.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And so. And Michael was on it. This is a little bit of a claim to fame.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right.

[Jenna Fischer]

So he decides we're going to watch it. He tells Ryan, go get the tape. Go get the tape from my mom's house. And then he goes into this very elaborate explanation.

[Angela Kinsey]

Go to Dixon City, which I looked up. It's about a 14 minute drive. Go to Dixon City. Mom might be by the pool.

[Jenna Fischer]

She might be at the pool.

[Angela Kinsey]

At the pool.

[Jenna Fischer]

And so you're gonna have to go.

[Angela Kinsey]

Through the window, boost yourself up, and go to the basement.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. I play this clip. It's at 12 minutes. I just love. Steve delivers it very, very quickly. He just rattles it off as if everything he's saying is totally normal.

[Angela Kinsey]

And also, this is something he's done countless times.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, it's so easy to do. This is how you get in my mom's house.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's gonna be at the pool.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. So you just.

[Angela Kinsey]

You put your stickers.

[Jenna Fischer]

The window will be open, though.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Here it is. I would like you to go to my mother's house in Dixon City. And if she's at the pool, the back kitchen window should be unlocked. I want you to boost yourself up. I want you to go down to the basement. In the basement is a tape labeled Fundle Bundle. I want you to grab it. I want you to get my guitar. Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

I want you to get a tambourine. Do you know how to play the tambourine?

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm already in the pizzas from Brunetti.

[Jenna Fischer]

So, you know, I can go with him. No, I Will go. Okay. I love that. I love it. Oh, get my guitar, which is in his mother's basement.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then can you play the tambourine?

[Angela Kinsey]

It's. It's. He's. It's all about to happen.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's all about to happen. So at 12 minutes, 17 seconds, Ryan says he can't go because I'm already getting pizza from Brunetti's. Brunetti's is a real pizza place in Scranton.

[Angela Kinsey]

No jitters. But there is a Brunetti's.

[Jenna Fischer]

There is a Brunetti's. But, guys, guess what? I went to the Facebook page for Brunetti's.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Their pizza is a rectangle. What? Rectangle pizza. Brunetti's.

[Angela Kinsey]

Scandalous.

[Jenna Fischer]

Not circular pizza.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like Baronies here.

[Jenna Fischer]

Baronis in Los Angeles, Steve's favorite pizza.

[Angela Kinsey]

Where we would get pizza sometimes on.

[Jenna Fischer]

Set for the cast and crew. Square rectangle.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, rectangle.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, it's made on, like, a cookie sheet. Well, in our episode, we have circular pizzas. To be fair, I did see they tend to sometimes serve circular ones.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, you heard it here, you guys.

[Jenna Fischer]

You heard it here.

[Angela Kinsey]

Sorry for the circular pizza when it wasn't Brunetti's rectangle pizza.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, guys, everybody is in the conference room now. At 12 minutes, 29 seconds, they're eating the circular pizza. That should be a rectangle. Fan catch from Mrs. Cray.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

Mrs. Cray, what is the funny dance move that John Krasinski is doing in the background? I don't know.

[Angela Kinsey]

They're just goofing around with the kids.

[Jenna Fischer]

John being John.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, he's just playing John. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

If you want to know what John is like, check out 12 minutes, 29 seconds.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, he's just having fun.

[Jenna Fischer]

He is. Are we ready to play this tape from fundle bundle?

[Angela Kinsey]

12 minutes, 51 seconds. The fun Bundle tape has arrived.

[Jenna Fischer]

We had a lot of fan questions about the Funle Bundle video and how it was made. So I reached out to Kent Zabornak, our line producer. So he told me that our set designers built the set and that our wardrobe designer, Carrie Bennett, found all of these vintage 1960 outfits for the kids.

[Angela Kinsey]

She was great at that. So good and probably so excited because all we wore were gray turtlenecks and, like, beige tops. And so she was probably so thrilled to have a project.

[Jenna Fischer]

Here's an interesting bit of trivia about Carrie Bennett. So before our show, Carrie worked on Scrubs, and she designed some kind of, like, I guess, quote unquote designer scrubs.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, she could sew, and so she designed her own line of scrubs that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Were less boxy, that were more flattering, and fitted for both men. Men and women.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Different colors and patterns. They were so popular that she actually started a line of scrubs. Yeah, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Go, Carrie.

[Jenna Fischer]

So there you go. So when they shot this footage, they used a cheap video camera instead of one of our regular cameras. And then in post production, he told me they threw in some additional artifacts. I guess artifacts is a term for lessening the quality of the film image. And so that's how it got that degraded, grainy look. Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

We had another fan question from Karen Fryer. She said, who was the voice of Edward R. Meow, the puppet that all the kids are talking to in Fundle Bundle? The voice is Kevin Carlson. He is a puppeteer and voice actor. But here's something very sweet.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

I did not know this. Kent Zabornik, our line producer, used to be a puppeteer.

[Angela Kinsey]

Stop it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, he worked with Jim Henson. Kent Kent Zaborniak worked with Jim Henson and Sid and Mary Croft. And he wanted to be Edward R. Meow.

[Angela Kinsey]

And they didn't let him.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, he couldn't do it. In the end. He didn't have the time. He couldn't leave his job of line producing to be Edward Armyow. So he asked his friend, another professional puppeteer, Kevin Carlson, if he would do it.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is that classic thing that I love where you look at someone, you think you know them. You're like, I know you. You're very efficient. Kent's kind of like this high strung, but, like, nice and kind. But he's getting stuff done.

[Jenna Fischer]

He's got Excel spreadsheets.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And I'm like, kent, I know who you are. And then you're a freaking puppeteer.

[Jenna Fischer]

Puppeteer.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. I did not know that. Blew me away when he told me that.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love that. Yeah, I love it.

[Jenna Fischer]

But here's something.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

The little blonde kid that gets interviewed by Edward R. Meow.

[Angela Kinsey]

The first kid.

[Jenna Fischer]

The first kid. Yeah. That's Kent Sbornak's son.

[Angela Kinsey]

Aw, Alec, that's so cute.

[Jenna Fischer]

He had to audition for the role.

[Angela Kinsey]

And he got it. He got it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, he had to audition. Isn't that cute?

[Angela Kinsey]

That is so cute.

[Jenna Fischer]

Should we talk about Chet Montgomery?

[Angela Kinsey]

We should. Chet, he's like a local, like, celebrity.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

So my hometown is pretty small, you know, in North Texas. And the evening news there is Good evening, Texoma, because we're right by the Texas Oklahoma border.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

And the folks that do the news there, the local anchors, I Have been in Wichita Falls with, like, my grandmother or mom or, like, at the mall or going to Looby's. They love Luby's.

[Jenna Fischer]

What's Looby's?

[Angela Kinsey]

Luby's is like.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do they sell earrings?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, it's like, it's. My grandparents love to go there for lunch. You get a tray. Oh, it's an eatery.

[Jenna Fischer]

You eat there's.

[Angela Kinsey]

You get a train. You go all the way down. It's like a buffet.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like a cafeteria style buffet thing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'd love that place.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like a soup plantation kind of.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Luby's. It was called Looby's. It's in the mall. But I remember going there with my grandparents and we saw the local news guy and they were like, there he is. Oh, my God. That's the. He does the evening news. Oh, my God. We're so excited.

[Jenna Fischer]

This kid who's being interviewed, he's Chet Montgomery. We find out he's the weather guy. Yeah, right. He's played by Damani Roberts. Here is a crazy thing about Damani Roberts. What? Remember earlier in the Talking head when Michael says, I'm Eddie Murphy and raw, but they're going to make me be Eddie Murphy in Daddy Daycare.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is Damani in Daddy Daycare?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Stop it. Yes. That's amazing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Damani Roberts is also in Daddy Daycare. Fan question from GraceMarvel5005 and Chris Wolpert, who played Michael as a kid. This was an actor named Jake Callender.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jake Callender.

[Jenna Fischer]

Jake Callender. He sounds like Chet Montgomery.

[Angela Kinsey]

He does. Jake Callender with Evening News and Texoma.

[Jenna Fischer]

So when young Michael is interviewed, didn't.

[Angela Kinsey]

You think young Michael looked like young Sheldon? A little bit.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yeah. I can give you that.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Looks a little bit.

[Angela Kinsey]

A little bit. Okay. So he's interviewed.

[Jenna Fischer]

He's interviewed and he's asked what he wants to be when he grows up.

[Angela Kinsey]

We should also remind you guys, he's in a full suit and tie. Yeah. He's a little kid.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. And he says, I want to be married and have 100 kids so I can have 100 friends. And no one can say no to being my friend.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is this when you cried?

[Jenna Fischer]

This is when I had to turn off the episode. It hit me so hard. I don't know why. This idea of just this little kid longing for friends and longing for acceptance.

[Angela Kinsey]

But we're getting a real window into his life. Listen, it was just.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was almost too much for me. It was almost too much for Me, this sentence about Michael's past, it was just. And I think. Because then you go to Steve's reaction, and Steve's acting is so good in that moment. It just like. I don't know. I mean, I remember at the time when we shot that, that after the little. Michael says that it cuts to a shot of the puppet who. And the puppet can't speak, and we lost it.

[Angela Kinsey]

The puppet is like agape, Right. His mouth is open. Do you know that the puppet. They linger on the puppet with its mouth open in silence. Like, what the heck? Right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

They linger on that puppet for six seconds of silence. I mean, seeing a puppet with its mouth agape being like, what the f. Just is going on. It is funny. It is funny.

[Jenna Fischer]

And when we were shooting this six seconds, we were dying. We were dying at the shot of the puppet. And so when I was getting ready, I think, to sit down and watch this scene, all I could remember was how we were crying, laughing at this reaction shot of the puppet. But then I just saw this whole other side of how not funny that was. Well, we were looking at it and.

[Angela Kinsey]

How you had the puppet. We weren't looking at Steve at that moment. Yeah. So we missed that moment for Michael.

[Jenna Fischer]

We needed to watch it as an episode. Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

So as an audience. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. I just was. Anyway.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, the kids start peppering Michael with questions, right? Yeah. They're saying, well, did you get married? Do you have kids? Do you have a girlfriend? And then the little girl says, I guess you didn't get to be what you wanted to be. And it is soul crushing. And I was watching this with Isabel, who's 11, and she turned to me and she goes, mom, were there just times when you were doing this show that you were like, I am so uncomfortable. She was like, this is really uncomfortable. I mean, she thought it was funny, you know, but she was like, that is awkward. And I was like, yeah. Oh, yeah. There are a lot of cringy moments on this show which make it all work and balance. But just the fact that she picked up on that, at her age, of, like, what an awkward moment this was.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, man. Well, Michael is so gutted, he just.

[Angela Kinsey]

He locks himself in his office.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

He won't come out.

[Jenna Fischer]

And the reaction shots of all of us are great. We're all really sad for him.

[Angela Kinsey]

Sad. A little embarrassed.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, all of it. So Pam's talking to Jim. We got a lot of mail about this little scene. Pam's talking to Jim. She's saying, Michael won't come out of his office. He won't answer his phone. Over her shoulder, Roy is wrestling with Meredith's son.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's so happy. Roy. Roy and the jerk kid are having the best time.

[Jenna Fischer]

We had a lot of questions about what this scene was supposed to mean, because Pam seems a little bit embarrassed or ashamed that Roy and this kid are getting along. They're like, what did this mean? Well, I think. I don't know. What was your interpretation?

[Angela Kinsey]

Here was my take on it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Because you have Roy, this big guy. Right. And he's kind of fratty. He's kind of like a frat guy. And he is with the kid that's the asshole.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

And they're having the time of their lives. They're in there. There's other people around them. They're not even caring about other people's personal space. They're wrestling in this room. And Roy's, like. Got him in a headlock, and he's like, I love this kid. And I think Pam had a flash of what her life would be like with Roy with children, what their kids would be like.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

She is going to have a kid that's like, mom, pull my finger. Fart, dad, laugh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Pam was like, oh, God. Oh, no. I'm gonna be outnumbered in my own house by, like, the Roy kids.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. I think it's definitely there to show a contrast to the way Jim Bonds with a kid.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Over books and reading, as opposed to just roughhousing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

But I have to say, when I saw that, I thought, yes, that's what this kid needs, actually. He needs a father figure in his life. He needs someone to wrestle with him, because that is an important part of parenting. I didn't think that that was so bad of a thing.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, I think it's perfect for Roy. The problem is that's not what Pam wants in a dad. Pam wants more of a gym dad that is going to do a silly dance and talk about books and probably wrestle a little bit, too. But I think Roy is just a little brutish. It's absolutely what Meredith's son needs. I mean, he needs a big guy to, like, grab him and be like, hey, yeah, you know, pay attention. But I just think it's just that moment that shows that Jim and Pam are just, you know, you meet people. We all, like, dated people. And there's some people you know instinctively that you're going to parent the same with.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I think Pam and Jim are going to parent the same.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Yeah. I think that's good. That's good. That's good analysis. I like that. Well, next up, we go to the copier with Dwight, and we're going to see how Dwight might parent Jake.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, again, Dwight and Angela. Angela has told him he needs to be tougher with the kids. Basically. That's her subtext, because that's what she would expect. Right? That's what she had growing up. And she expects him to be that way.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

So she's egging him on. She's glaring at him, like, shut that kid up.

[Jenna Fischer]

Jake tells Dwight that he's ugly.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then Dwight is horrible. I'm sorry.

[Angela Kinsey]

At my prodding.

[Jenna Fischer]

At my prodding.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's horrible.

[Jenna Fischer]

Get my mini soapbox out again, because I did not care for this.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, it wasn't good.

[Jenna Fischer]

It bumped me. I didn't like that Dwight told a child like that. Dwight insulted a child the way he did. I didn't. I think we're meant as an audience to be like, yeah, you give it to the jerk kid. But I just. That, ugh, I didn't like it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't think we're meant to do that.

[Jenna Fischer]

You don't think?

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't think so. I think, like, there's part of you that's, like, glad that this kid is, like, at least put in his place a little bit. Although done completely inappropriately. But I think what I took away from it is, like, Dwight. Dwight is a kid. These are two kids in one conversation. I mean, Isabel watched it with me, and she was like, oh, mom, Dwight. And I said, I know he's just a kid.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, it all just made me super sad for Jake.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, well, Jake. Jake is doomed.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's what I felt like.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's Meredith's kid and he's doomed. At 15 minutes, 39 seconds, Pam strikes out again.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, boy.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Melissa comes over. She's like, you know, I've spent some time with your mom. She's so nice. And Melissa's like, that lady is not my mother. Like, you mean Terri? That's my stepmom.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

So now she's like 0 for 2, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Pam's not doing great until Jake comes over. Jake. Jake's probably a little wounded by this time. I think he's a little softer around the edges now.

[Jenna Fischer]

Maybe so.

[Angela Kinsey]

And she's like, do you want to shred some stuff? Your shredder?

[Jenna Fischer]

My shredder? 15 minutes, 50 seconds, everyone.

[Angela Kinsey]

Your shredder that you said we never use. And people were like, oh, I'm getting to my keyboard.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Boy, we got A lot of mail after I said that early on. Yes, Pam does use her shredder with Jake, by the way. I want to say that original shredder did not work. It was inoperable. And I can't remember now if they had to bring in some other shredder. I think there's a reason why there's not a great shot of it is because it doesn't technically match the giant shredder that's always been there.

[Angela Kinsey]

I will say, also, in our early years on set, I know we were on a tight budget, Right. We were the show that was almost going to get canceled. We were like. It was sort of shoestring budget. And a lot of our appliances in the office, if you look really closely, are old, used appliances.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

That they would take from, like, a prop warehouse or other shows.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, the copier didn't work at first. And then they wrote that someone uses the copier, and they're like, whoa, hold up.

[Angela Kinsey]

It doesn't work.

[Jenna Fischer]

We need a copier. We were just. I mean, that was just decoration. We're planning on using that.

[Angela Kinsey]

And that shredder looked like something from the Dharma Initiative. It looked really old.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, you remember that copier used to often not work. Right. Do you remember that? We were always fixing that copier all the time. But then when I worked in offices, we were always fixing our copiers. So maybe it worked just as it was meant to work.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Or as good as any copier I've ever used. All right, all right. So now Toby goes into Michael's office, and he's returning the toys that Sasha took. And Toby asks Michael if he's okay. And Michael says, well, you have to ask me that because you're head of hr. And Toby's like, well, it's true, but how are you?

[Angela Kinsey]

And then they end up having a.

[Jenna Fischer]

Heart to heart, a sweet heart to heart.

[Angela Kinsey]

Michael and Toby.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know. But of course, then Michael asks if Sasha has a godfather, and Toby's like, she does.

[Angela Kinsey]

Toby actually cuts him off. So he's like, hey, does Sasha have a godfather? Because he does. He does.

[Jenna Fischer]

She does.

[Angela Kinsey]

She does.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

But Michael decides he's gotten his feeling a little better. He's gonna sign up for an online dating service.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's gonna get out there.

[Jenna Fischer]

He is. He's gonna try to make little Michael Scott's dream come true, get married and have his 100 kids.

[Angela Kinsey]

And he wants the ladies out there to know how serious he is about having a family and his love of children. So he makes his username Little kid lover.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, he's gonna do it. Oh, boy. All right, so now, huge bombshell. Abby is leaving with Kevin, and she wants to invite Jim over for dinner. Very sweet.

[Angela Kinsey]

He can't. He has plans.

[Jenna Fischer]

He has plans. What plans? Kevin says you never have plans. Guess what, guys?

[Angela Kinsey]

Jim has a date. Jim has a date with who is this? Maybe Brenda. Is Brenda back?

[Jenna Fischer]

Fan question. Laura Deenie would like to know who is Jim going on a date with?

[Angela Kinsey]

Don't know, Brenda.

[Jenna Fischer]

Is he lying? No, he. He has a date.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, he has a date.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think he does.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, he for sure has a date.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. So then we get to the last scene of the episode. This is the second time I cried in this episode when they were singing. Yeah, Jenna, Dwight is playing guitar.

[Angela Kinsey]

First one. Why did you cry in this one? I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

This song really gets to me. Teach your children. Michael is singing Crosby, Stills, and Nash.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Young, I guess.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love how. I love how Steve does this.

[Angela Kinsey]

He went for it.

[Jenna Fischer]

He went for it. His very weird harmony falsetto. Yeah, yeah. And during this scene, Jim and Pam have a little banter. Little banter.

[Angela Kinsey]

This was a real kick in the nuts for Pam. This was a tough one.

[Jenna Fischer]

Jim says, why does he have a guitar if he never plays it?

[Angela Kinsey]

They're doing their thing where they kind of flirt and chitchat. Chat in the corner.

[Jenna Fischer]

Exactly. They're commenting on what's happening, but then they kind of giggle. Then Pam looks away and she turns back and she's like, well, my theory is he's gone. Jim's gone. Oh, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then your little adjustment after you realize you were talking to no one and that he's gone is so great because you kind of feel her like, oh, okay. So at 19 minutes, 1 second, we sort of start this montage. Right. Jim is leaving.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And you see this really sweet thing with Michael and Sasha, like he's kind of helping, I think, get her in Toby's car. And then you end with this Dwight talking head.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. It's so good.

[Angela Kinsey]

What? Okay, I have a question.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Where's that photo from?

[Jenna Fischer]

I found out.

[Angela Kinsey]

Good. I was hoping you would.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. So during this talking head, Dwight is kind of explaining the value of children in the shrewt ancestry. And there is this photo, this black and white photo of a family seemingly kind of impoverished family.

[Angela Kinsey]

Impoverished family. Well, Dwight says that they would have a lot of children so they could work the fields, which, you know, is not a real stretch because my mom grew up in rural Texas on A farm. And she had their 12 siblings. Yeah, they all worked the farm. I think that was a thing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, that. That was a thing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Life on the Prairie, Little House on the Prairie. We learned that from Little House on the Prairie.

[Angela Kinsey]

Not really, but the.

[Jenna Fischer]

That family had a lot of kids, and they all worked that field and farm.

[Angela Kinsey]

They had, like, four.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think they had more than that.

[Angela Kinsey]

Five.

[Jenna Fischer]

I feel like it was upwards of seven. What, Mara. Mara Mary Half Pint.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, the baby who I think died on Christmas Eve of fever.

[Jenna Fischer]

There were some boys.

[Angela Kinsey]

One boy, maybe.

[Jenna Fischer]

There were only four or five. I don't know. They all worked the farm, though. Anyway, Dwight also says that they sometimes ate the weakest person in times of real hardship. And then he was like, but not a kid.

[Angela Kinsey]

We didn't eat the babies.

[Jenna Fischer]

But the way he says it means, like, maybe sometimes they do.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, no, he said, I'm kidding. We never ate the children. It never came to that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right. But if it did, they were.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, well, at 20 minutes, 17 seconds, there is a shot of this photo. And in the Booze Cruise podcast, we mentioned that Rain did bring in a number of photos of his real family.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is this one?

[Jenna Fischer]

No. Oh, it's not. There was a real photo of his family in the vending machine in the cold open of Booze Cruise, but this was not Rain's real family. Kent told me that they just found it on Getty Images. It's a stock photo. They just licensed it, and it became the lore of Dwight's family. Right there. Just a picture.

[Angela Kinsey]

There you go. It's somebody's family.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's someone's family.

[Angela Kinsey]

Maybe someone will write in and say, hey, that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Those are my ancestors.

[Angela Kinsey]

Those are my ancestors. A Getty Image photographer came to a reunion in 1814.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Anyway.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, well, there you go. That's our episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right, you guys, let's take your daughter to work day. If you have any questions, if we left anything out, write us in and we will see you next week.

[Jenna Fischer]

We will. I think for Michael's birthday.

[Angela Kinsey]

Michael's birthday?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, the ice skateboard.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I have good photos from that one.

[Jenna Fischer]

I have good stories. Thank you for listening to Office Lady's second drink.

[Angela Kinsey]

This episode was initially created in collaboration with Earwolf.

[Jenna Fischer]

Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

[Angela Kinsey]

Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins, and our audio engineer and associate producer is Daniela Silva.

[Jenna Fischer]

Odyssey's executive producers are Jenna Wise Berman and Leah Reese Dennis.

[Angela Kinsey]

Office Ladies is mixed and mastered by Chris Basil.

[Jenna Fischer]

Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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