Adam Friedland Just Wants to Understand

Summary

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Episode 220: Adam Friedland Just Wants to Understand
Original Air Date: January 31, 2026
Host: Jon Favreau
Guest: Adam Friedland

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Episode Overview

This episode features comedian and podcaster Adam Friedland, formerly of Cumtown and currently host of The Adam Friedland Show. The conversation centers on how the internet—particularly "the phones"—is driving culture and politics into dysfunction, desensitizing people, and accelerating chaos in everything from media to personal lives. It’s a free-flowing, darkly humorous, yet introspective talk about comedy, politics, the impact of longform interviews, the 24/7 information firehose, and moral challenges in modern America.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Evolution of Adam Friedland’s Interview Style

• Comedy Roots: Adam recounts moving from the “immature” humor of Cumtown to more serious interviewing with The Adam Friedland Show.
• Interviewing Approach: He aims for longform, in-depth conversations inspired by Dick Cavett, with less focus on comedians and more on varied guests—politicians, celebrities—and a heavily researched, edited approach.
  • Quote [18:09]: “The set’s based on the Dick Cavett show.” – Jon Favreau
  • Quote [18:21]: “It was a joke, but they were making me into a public intellectual. But then accidentally, it kind of was real, too.” – Adam Friedland
• Adam stresses trying to make space for complexity and genuine personality, not adversarial or ‘gotcha’ journalism.
  • “I really don’t want to have an argument. I want to have... a conversation that reflects something culturally... more relevant.” – Adam [35:39]

2. The Dysfunction of the Political and Media Worlds

• DC’s “Company Town” Nature: Both recall their time in Washington, D.C., noting its insularity, gentrification, and superficiality.
  • Quote [10:31]: “It’s a very small city in that... everyone is political...” – Jon Favreau
  • Adam’s riff [11:02]: "I'm an 11 in D.C., yeah. And I happen to be a LA negative three."
• Reflects on politicians, authenticity (or lack thereof), and the weirdness of people staying in broken systems for power or routine.

3. The Internet’s Toxic Effects

• Desensitization & “Hypernormalization”: They explore how constant exposure to violence and chaos online has worn down people’s empathetic responses.
  • Quote [41:14]: "We just see people getting shot in the head... I really think that the Minnesota video is like...perhaps it’s more insane than is dawning on people." – Adam
  • Favreau references his wife’s comment that, “We’re not meant to see, like, this video all the time.” [41:58]
• Algorithms and Manufactured Outrage: Discussion delves into Stan culture, bots, and whether anger is even real versus performative/algorithmic.
  • “The labels have recognized... they artificially create their bots, and then human beings see them and then they join. They mimic, like, Stan communities...” – Adam [43:27]
• Pandemic’s Aftermath: Both agree social PTSD from COVID lockdowns is under-discussed, fueling widespread irrationality and screen addiction.
  • Quote [44:34]: “Everyone has PTSD from... the pandemic era. We have collective PTSD and no one wants to deal with it. So we’re all just gonna be fucking nuts.” – Jon Favreau

4. Morality, Law Enforcement, and the Border Crisis

• On ICE and Family Separation: A major segment is a candid, emotionally charged discussion about immigration enforcement, the ethics of ICE, and American society’s indifference.
  • Quote [54:12]: “It doesn’t keep us safe whatsoever. It’s just unflinching cruelty, evil. I mean, it’s just evil.” – Adam
• Adam draws a historical parallel: Most bystanders during atrocities go back to life as normal—self-critical about how that pattern is repeating:
  • “It’s not as if the entire country of Germany decided overnight to be antisemitic... people just went to the office the next day...” [55:19]
• They highlight the horror of the Minneapolis child separation case, the performative justifications from officials, and media’s role in normalizing cruelty.

5. Media Critique & Political Comedy

• Mainstream Political Discourse: Both mock the performativity in politics—Democrats’ and Republicans’ attempts to look tough, to be “authentic,” to “Fight Harder.”
  • “Now Democrats just say the F word. That’s their thing.” – Adam [59:46]
  • Body Cam Futility: “There was 1,000 cameras around when we saw someone getting shot in the head. What is one more camera gonna do?” – Adam [59:56]
• On being a political comedian: Adam expresses reluctance to be taken as an authority, but values asking “the next question” that really matters, not the party line.

6. The Challenge of Staying Empathetic—Can People Still Be Reached?

• Both ponder whether most people are still basically good and empathetic, or if media, partisanship, and cultural algorithms have destroyed that.
  • Quote [56:54]: “I want to think that human beings... if they saw, if Jesse Watters saw it happening, he’d be like... But then I think about these guys that are actually doing it. And then I’m like, what? It goes a step beyond.” – Adam

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On moving from comedy to interviewing politicians:
  • "I was like, what’s socializing like? …I had to figure out how to access, like, what talking to a person was just as a person." – Adam, [17:19]
• On authenticity vs. artifice in politics:
  • “Even when Trump’s lying, he’s not full of shit. He’s authentically lying.” – Adam [13:16]
• Regarding radicalization and the internet:
  • “Is it that people… have been radicalized, or is it like: I gotta be on the team and just say it anyway? I can’t figure it out. I guess it’s different for different people.” – Jon, [43:00]
• About online outrage and bots:
  • “What is the percentage of accounts on Twitter that are bots at this point?” – Jon, [43:44]
  • “My understanding is that it was just a ton, and then it becomes. That’s scary.” – Adam, [44:22]
• On the border and cruelty:
  • “We have to ask the next question… I grew up around a lot of Latinos, and like, they’re just people that want to make more money for their families.” – Adam, [48:35]
  • “Law enforcement is supposed to keep us safe. Like, how does this keep us safe? …It’s just unflinching cruelty, evil.” – Adam, [54:09]

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Important Timestamps

• 02:37 – Start of substantive discussion; Minneapolis incident and moral questions on law enforcement.
• 11:02 – D.C. vs. L.A. superficiality and politics as a “company town.”
• 18:09 & 18:21 – On the Dick Cavett show as inspiration for Adam’s format.
• 35:39 – Adam on fostering conversation, not just debate or arguments.
• 41:00–44:00 – The internet’s desensitizing effect; “hypernormalization” and mass trauma post-pandemic.
• 47:40–54:20 – In-depth segment on ICE, child detentions, media narratives, and “the next question.”
• 59:56 – The futility of “body cams” and hollow Democratic solutions.
• 62:00 – Discussion of media stunts, argument shows, and performativity.

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Tone & Language

The conversation is fast-paced, irreverent, and stinging in its humor—but ultimately earnest, analytical, and occasionally somber. It is peppered with dark jokes, pop culture references, and self-deprecation, but pivots to real reflection and sensitivity on major issues like violence, immigration, and collective psychological trauma.

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Final Reflections

• Both host and guest seek to understand, not just “own” opponents or posture; they lament the internet’s corrosive effects, America’s numbed morality, and the difficulty of having real conversations in today’s climate.
• Adam Friedland’s style attempts to balance humor with empathy and depth, pushing guests—and listeners—to go beyond the surface, ask harder questions, and resist cynicism or rote outrage.

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For listeners seeking a thoughtful, bitingly funny, and at times uncomfortable exploration of how technology, politics, and culture intersect in 2026, this episode is essential. It’s as much therapy session as comedy podcast, wrestling with why things feel broken—and what, if anything, might actually help.

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[Jon Favreau]

How have you been feeling since the Minneapolis stuff has gone down? Have you been processing it?

[Adam Friedland]

I don't think the next question is being asked, which is like, how many fucking migrants have been fucking shot in the head? Also like, that's the question.

[Jon Favreau]

And the detention centers are in the whole other.

[Adam Friedland]

I understand. I don't want to go like, you know, white privilege. I mean, I'm from Cumtown, right? Like, I'm from. I'm from. I'm from a problematic white guy podcast. But it's just like, do we, we have to ask the next question? I mean, because like, I grew up in the Southwest and I grew up around a lot of Latinos and like, they're just people that want to make more money for their families.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And I think about the ICE guys, I think about, like, what it must be like to have a job where there's a kid screaming, crying, and you're like arresting their parents.

[Jon Favreau]

I know, what is that job?

[Adam Friedland]

Like, like, why? Like, getting that job. And it's just like, we abolish eyes. They're gonna reintegrate into society. We don't even know their faces. Foreign.

[Jon Favreau]

I'm Jon Favreau and you just heard from this week's guest, Adam Friedland, comedian and host of the Adam Friedland Show. Some of you may know Adam. He was one of the co hosts of a podcast called Cometown for many years. He now hosts the Adam Friedland Show YouTube show, where he does long form interviews with politicians, celebrities, entertainers, all kinds of different people. He's got some really big name guests. He also had me on the show recently and he is hilarious, as you might expect. But also I think I wanted to have him on because his interviewing style, he really gets people to open up and he's funny and he makes jokes, but he's also, he's like very respectful of his guests. And he is good at sort of drawing people out, making them feel comfortable and then really trying to understand who they are and getting them to say things they don't say in the typical, you know, media tours that a lot of prominent people go on. So this was maybe one of the funniest conversations I've had on the show. We could have talked for another couple hours. It's Hard to actually describe what we talked about. So I think you're just gonna have to listen and trust me, you're gonna love it. Here's Adam Friedland. Thanks for doing this.

[Adam Friedland]

Thank you. Thanks for having me.

[Jon Favreau]

I did your show. You did my show? Yeah, yeah. Completed the circle jerk, dude.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, absolutely. Just the 69 of podcasts.

[Jon Favreau]

The 69 of podcast, talk show.

[Adam Friedland]

Whatever this is.

[Jon Favreau]

Whatever this is.

[Adam Friedland]

It's a real talk show.

[Jon Favreau]

How would you describe the Adam Friedland show for people who. It's one.

[Adam Friedland]

It's the smartest.

[Jon Favreau]

The smartest.

[Adam Friedland]

Important. It's an Algonquin roundtable. It's. Oh, my God. It's like. It's like a firing line. It's Foucault and Chomsky. It's basically that.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, it's deep.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah. It's basically. No, no. I do a long form interview show with celebrities and politicians and just everyone.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

We're scraping the bottom of the.

[Jon Favreau]

With me. Yeah. Before that. You're neither.

[Adam Friedland]

No, yeah, yeah. We had a fun time.

[Jon Favreau]

We had a fun time. We had a great time. I haven't seen it.

[Adam Friedland]

Riff session.

[Jon Favreau]

I like, I was like, why didn't you watch it?

[Adam Friedland]

Because it's mad funny.

[Jon Favreau]

It's like, I only have so much time to consume content and. Content with me. Content with me.

[Adam Friedland]

Bullshit. No, this is. I didn't send it to Obama. That's what you're saying right now. I thought the agreement was.

[Jon Favreau]

And it is the agreement, send it.

[Adam Friedland]

Directly to President Barack Obama.

[Jon Favreau]

You know what? I'm gonna do that. Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay. Just say, I haven't watched this shit, but maybe you might like it.

[Jon Favreau]

I did get all. But like, I got all, you know, a lot of messages from friends and like, one of them were. They thought it was really funny.

[Adam Friedland]

It's very funny.

[Jon Favreau]

They're like, you did. I think they were all surprised and like, you did. Okay. Like, they thought you were gonna, like, you know. I don't know. Yeah. Destroy me or something like that.

[Adam Friedland]

We had a kitchen table conversation.

[Jon Favreau]

We did have a kitchen table conversation. Someone said that they were just.

[Adam Friedland]

Obama said that.

[Jon Favreau]

We did the nail in. There was a nail in the nail and pillow. There was two.

[Adam Friedland]

There was two. There was a callback. You very.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, you did. That's what someone said.

[Adam Friedland]

I dapped you on the callback.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, well, because you used it again with Scott Jennings.

[Adam Friedland]

I can't stop thinking about it.

[Jon Favreau]

He did not pick up on the nailing panel. I thought that Scott would talk more about that. We'll get to him. I want to talk about him.

[Adam Friedland]

He's having a. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

[Jon Favreau]

Before you did.

[Adam Friedland]

What's his deal? He did Iraq or something.

[Jon Favreau]

He did a rack. Yeah, it was his idea. That was his idea.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, my God. He gave Chaney the idea.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah. In Rumsfeld.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

That's my boy.

[Jon Favreau]

Scott, you did a comedy podcast before the show cometown, and you once shit your pants on air, like, right before. Right before. Would you say that's the moment you're best known for?

[Adam Friedland]

In I hype it up and now I have to stop talking. It's just like, if you're saying it, Obama's watching. Like, what are you talking about?

[Jon Favreau]

Everyone is talking about it. It's not as prom, Google Adam Freeland or poop. You're gonna get a lot of hits.

[Adam Friedland]

No, I'm most known for being the most pivotal, funniest one and just the linchpin of.

[Jon Favreau]

No. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I did a very immature podcast, and then somehow I've just landed here. It's really. Was not calculated. It was a series of events.

[Jon Favreau]

Okay.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Yeah. Accidents.

[Jon Favreau]

Tell me about the names that lost out to Cometown.

[Adam Friedland]

I don't know. Nick would chose the worst name.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I mean, it was, like, kind of smart because they didn't, like, they couldn't write it in the newspaper, so you.

[Jon Favreau]

Could kind of go under the radar.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, but Saab was on Seth Meyers. He said it on tv. It's the Trump era. You can say anything. Yeah. Come town.

[Jon Favreau]

I was gonna say, you got like, get different spellings. That's fine.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. It's free speech.

[Jon Favreau]

You know, people be like, it's cometown cum.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, he did that for Kimmel, dude. He did some free speech.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I don't know. It became very success. Like, beloved. I've actually listened to, like, a. Because I know. We never listened to it. We thought it was bad, but. And then the people that liked it online, they were annoying. So we're like, it has to be bad. But I've only, like, listened to it in the last year and a half, and it's. It's the funniest thing ever. I mean, Nick, it's hilarious. He's a genius. I mean, we were sitting there, like, upset. We're like, this sucks and we suck. When can we stop doing this? Nick's like, can I get a job at Radio Shack again?

[Jon Favreau]

When you.

[Adam Friedland]

It was not fulfilling.

[Jon Favreau]

So this is like. So you did comedy for a while. You are now into sort of. You're like, news and politics adjacent with some of your guests. But, like, you lived in D.C. for all. You went to GW.

[Adam Friedland]

I was at GW.

[Jon Favreau]

You were like a political person.

[Adam Friedland]

Way back when we were fellow residents of dc, I was there.

[Jon Favreau]

When were you as charmed by the old nation's capital?

[Adam Friedland]

Your old man won. I was so charmed. I mean, when they. When they just. The soul cycles came. I mean, we did great things with it.

[Jon Favreau]

Oh, you were there for Soul Cycle? Yeah, I had left by then.

[Adam Friedland]

Every time I go back, it's like it is a. Is just. Is ethnic cleansing. I mean, it's horrible with it. It's just a completely different city. I was actually there when they built the Target, Columbia Heights.

[Jon Favreau]

Oh, I remember that.

[Adam Friedland]

I went to a punk show.

[Jon Favreau]

Oh, I've been to that. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

In a basement my freshman year of college before the Target. And it was terrifying. On the Green Line, the Columbia Heights stop. I was like. I was like, I'm gonna. This is scary.

[Jon Favreau]

You're like, I've gone. I've gone too far.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. It was like, I don't know where the hell I am. It's so. There were no street lights or, you know, there's. There's a Tumbleweed. It was a now there's soul cycle everywhere.

[Jon Favreau]

They've gentrified.

[Adam Friedland]

The out of that has changed. D.C. has changed. I think. What is it? Citizens United, probably.

[Jon Favreau]

Do you think that did it?

[Adam Friedland]

I do kind of think so, yeah. It's just a flooding in of money, probably.

[Jon Favreau]

So much money.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. It has to be.

[Jon Favreau]

It's a very small city in that, like you. I mean, it's small city population wise, but also because everyone is political or so many people are in politics. I feel like it's more of a world. I feel like it's more of a company town than almost any other city.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jon Favreau]

Maybe San Francisco with tech.

[Adam Friedland]

Some of the worst people on Earth.

[Jon Favreau]

That's what I'm saying. That's why. That's why eventually I was ugly.

[Adam Friedland]

Don't get me started. Oh, my God, the talent.

[Jon Favreau]

You're like a DC9.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm an 11 in D.C. yeah. And I happen to be a LA negative three.

[Jon Favreau]

Same. Yeah. It's tough.

[Adam Friedland]

No, it's. I remember, it's. Yeah. Did you want to go, like, legislative aids, like, getting, like, making like $23,000 a year and then saying that they have, like, someone's number in their BlackBerry and they're like, I'm important. And I'm like, you're a loser.

[Jon Favreau]

It's the first thing you ask someone when you meet someone in D.C. you're like, oh, what do you do? Who do you. Who do you work for?

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, sh. Shut up.

[Jon Favreau]

Who do you work for?

[Adam Friedland]

I work for the Iraq War. I have the CEO of the Iraq war's phone number. Isn't that cool?

[Jon Favreau]

Blackwater.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm like, you're still ugly.

[Jon Favreau]

Did you ever want to go into politics?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. I thought I liked politics a lot growing up, and then I moved there freshman year. You remember that? You run for, like, your, like, floor representative of your dorm.

[Jon Favreau]

No, I didn't do that.

[Adam Friedland]

There's, like, a guy. Not you, but there's a guy campaigning. Like, it's the third day of college.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And he's, like, shaking hands, and you're like, this guy's a dildo. Like this. And then they all, like, got internships at, like, the Bush White House and stuff, like, those guys.

[Jon Favreau]

And then Barack Obama ruined it. Was it D.C. and like, the people in D.C. that turned you off from, like, going into politics, or were you just, like, this is not for me?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. There's something about that. Just like, it's pretty rare. I mean, like, I meet a lot of politicians now doing the talk shows. It's like, it's pretty rare you meet, like, someone that's a. That's a real one, I feel.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You know, I think. I think Big Z, I got a sense that he was. Because I'm. I'm completely full of shit as a person. That's my advantage in doing the interviews, I think. But I completely lack substance. I know exactly how I mask it and cover it up. I'm a closeted homosexual.

[Jon Favreau]

I mean.

[Adam Friedland]

No, I mean, like, I don't know why I said Obama. I'm just kidding. Obama.

[Jon Favreau]

You do a shitload of research, though.

[Adam Friedland]

I do a lot of research, but it's scary. But I know when someone is trying to sound smart.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And I know when there's, like, no basis for it, but I don't even know if it's an advantage for me. I think people just know when someone's full of shit now.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And I think that that's gonna have to be something that's considered in D.C. at a certain point. Even when Trump's lying, he's not full of shit. You know what I mean?

[Jon Favreau]

Right. That is what people.

[Adam Friedland]

He's authentically lying.

[Jon Favreau]

People say that about Trump. Is that, like, I know. I know he's not telling the truth, but he's not. Like, he's lying for us. I believe. Yeah. Or I believe him.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Jon Favreau]

Like, I believe his. I believe his. I know the lies aren't.

[Adam Friedland]

But then on the other hand, like, he's like, we're going to take Venezuela's oil. It's like, yeah, we kind of always do, but the honesty is like.

[Jon Favreau]

Like we're going to some sense.

[Adam Friedland]

Like, I've never heard someone be honest about it.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, it's not like.

[Adam Friedland]

Like I'm like, what are you doing? You're supposed to lie.

[Jon Favreau]

Like, he could say something like, we are helping them rebuild their oil infrastructure and then hopefully they will do some, you know, they'll do some business with us and everyone will benefit. Instead, he's just like, no, we're taking it.

[Adam Friedland]

We're stealing.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, we're out of the ground. We're going to put it in barrels, even though that's not even how people transport oil anymore. And we're going to ship the barrels right here.

[Adam Friedland]

I've never heard.

[Jon Favreau]

I'm going to sell it now, put the money in a Qatari bank and then that's it.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah. And put in my shit coin.

[Jon Favreau]

Put in my shit coin. Whatever.

[Adam Friedland]

That trashy.

[Jon Favreau]

It is a trashy way.

[Adam Friedland]

So trashy. Do you see Eric Adams made like $3 million off of stop Anti Semitism.

[Jon Favreau]

He's another one. He's another one who just does it. He's learned from Trump that, like, who the fuck cares?

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, my.

[Jon Favreau]

Like, I'm leaving and I'm going. I'm leaving office. I'm heading to Turkey.

[Adam Friedland]

He really didn't give a fuck before he left. Yeah, apparently he might come back into power. I might go to Guantanamo for this. But apparently he had eight phones on him at all times for different crime.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, you need one for your bag.

[Adam Friedland]

Of eight phones for crimes.

[Jon Favreau]

You want to mix up your crimes?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, he's the Turkey line. This is the campaign fundraiser. He's awesome. Sauron is boring, so he's following the rules. I offered him a hat from the show when he came in.

[Jon Favreau]

No, he didn't want that.

[Adam Friedland]

I can't take a gift over $10.

[Jon Favreau]

No way.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm like, just shut.

[Jon Favreau]

What a fucking.

[Adam Friedland]

Just go to Turkey. You know, he's.

[Jon Favreau]

I actually like, well, you might basically live the dream of every bearded Brooklyn leftist by.

[Adam Friedland]

I have low testosterone. I can't grow up.

[Jon Favreau]

Interviewing Zoran Mandani, bearded Brooklyn leftist.

[Adam Friedland]

Come on, dude. We're all right wing now in New York.

[Jon Favreau]

Oh, that's true.

[Adam Friedland]

That's true.

[Jon Favreau]

That's the coolest bearded Brooklyn Trump supporters.

[Adam Friedland]

I don't know what they are. I don't even think they're even Trump. I think they're just like, like, you.

[Jon Favreau]

Know, it all kind of thing. I don't know. Zoranza Sella, Zoranza. Centrist show.

[Adam Friedland]

They're like Chesu or something.

[Jon Favreau]

I don't know.

[Adam Friedland]

They're like, like, they're like, so. Yeah, I don't know. They're like, no, but with him, like, we both like soccer, right? We both like the same soccer team. And this player they used to play for, Arsenal, sent a video in. This guy, Hector Bellerin. And the president of the team, Real Betis in Spain, uhuh. Brought two jerseys for me and the mayor.

[Jon Favreau]

That's sick.

[Adam Friedland]

And he came by and he was like, this is for you and Senor Adams. He didn't know that. He didn't know that it was the new mayor.

[Jon Favreau]

That's really funny.

[Adam Friedland]

I. I hit him up about that and he's like, this is my Turkish Airlines. I was like, we're best friends. We are best friends. Do not worry about the permits. We have a friend in city war.

[Jon Favreau]

We're good. You guys are good. So the show started as a joke.

[Adam Friedland]

That you and you decided to make.

[Jon Favreau]

Fun of me, right? But then at some point it got serious. Talk to me about the show's evolution. Like when you were like, okay, you know what? I want to try at this. I want to do it this way. This is what I want to get out of this.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. I don't know. I just found that I enjoyed it. And at first I was not that good at it.

[Jon Favreau]

Interviewing is hard.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, it's like I'm a. I do stand up. So it's like the only reference to like talking to someone is like, crowd work. So I'm like, someone comes, I'm like, what. What do you do for a living? You're. And then they're like, I'm an elementary school teacher. And you're like, you're a pedophile. You know, like, yeah, everyone laughs. It's really fun. It's huge on Tick Tock. But like, it's not like an interview, right?

[Jon Favreau]

Like, right.

[Adam Friedland]

So I had to kind of like, figure out like, how to access like, what talking to a person was like, it just as a person.

[Jon Favreau]

And then to figure out what socializing was like. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And then I don't know, it's just I. I kind of try to do something that's a little bit. There's enough podcasts, right? So like, there's like, you don't want to do just another thing. So you just Want to do something that's a little bit unique. And so I try to kind of make it distinct from all the other shows that you see online. And I don't book, like, other comics. Like, there's like a revolving door of other comics on, like, Rogan and Theo and stuff like that.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And I'm like, well, this is going to be something distinct and that's, like, produced and heavily edited and research and like. And I was like, I'll try. I'm 35. I may as well try.

[Jon Favreau]

You're trying.

[Adam Friedland]

It's scary.

[Jon Favreau]

The set's based on the Dick Cavett show. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Jon Favreau]

I didn't know much about the Dick Cavett show. And then I was like, yes. So after. After doing your show. Yeah. I started, like, digging into some old. It's amazing.

[Adam Friedland]

It's amazing.

[Jon Favreau]

How much were you, like, intentionally trying to at least, like, echo.

[Adam Friedland]

It was a joke, but they were making me into a public intellectual. But then accidentally, it kind of was real, too.

[Jon Favreau]

Well, those are things experienced your show before knowing anything about Dick Cavett. Then when I went back to Dick Cavett, I was like, oh, this is like what Adam's show is becoming the.

[Adam Friedland]

Host isn't funny and the conversations kind of maybe could be interesting sometimes. No, I mean, like, it's. He talked to people in a way. Like people that were famous in a way where you saw them kind of in a more genuine light and, like, for who they really are.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And that's kind of something that you could kind of extract through doing a long form interview. And it's really smart for me to do long form content in an era.

[Jon Favreau]

Where people just love just scrolling right past it.

[Adam Friedland]

They just love it. They love things that are over 30 seconds.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, yeah. I sit and watch the whole thing. I watched the. Have you seen the. Lester Maddox, Jim Brown?

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, my gosh, it's legendary.

[Jon Favreau]

Holy shit.

[Adam Friedland]

He smacks his ass up.

[Jon Favreau]

It's also a tough job for Cabot there to, like, moderate this for people who don't know Lester Maddox, like this. The racist Governor of Georgia, 1970. Jim Brown, NFL Jim Brown, also civil rights activist.

[Adam Friedland]

Retired to be a civil rights activist and an actor.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah. And then they just go at it. About the thing that struck me about that was watching it again is I'm like, lester Maddox in that interview is making arguments about race and civil rights that you still hear in different forms from the right today. It's like, I'm not for. For segregation. I'm just also not for forced integration. I'm in the middle, it's kind of bad. And you're like, wait, what?

[Adam Friedland]

But, you know, correct me if you're a little bit older than me, but, like, in the scope of our lifetimes, that's never been a thing. It kind of feels like it's a. It's a thing now.

[Jon Favreau]

It is a thing.

[Adam Friedland]

It feels like new.

[Jon Favreau]

It is new.

[Adam Friedland]

I know it's throwback, but for us, it's like, I never saw this.

[Jon Favreau]

Correct. Which is why I was like. I'm like, oh, this is how it used to happen back then.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, yeah. Back in the olden days when it was racist. Right.

[Jon Favreau]

When the. Well, that was 72. Right. So the Civil Rights act had passed and it was right after King is assassinated. Right.

[Adam Friedland]

Is it gonna be old fashioned and be like, racism is wrong?

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, it's the worst thing. You're gonna be like, what was that? When they were all like, I still think, how did they let Barack Obama be president? Instead of going back and being like, how do we have Trump? People are gonna be like, how did we get Obama? That's crazy.

[Adam Friedland]

The catastrophe. What a national catastrophe.

[Jon Favreau]

Do you think about getting Dick Havoc on the show?

[Adam Friedland]

He's like, apparently 99 or something.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, still kicking.

[Adam Friedland]

He's out in Montauk or something. Apparently. I don't know.

[Jon Favreau]

You should get him on.

[Adam Friedland]

You have his number. You know, you can. You have a real company here.

[Jon Favreau]

We have a real company.

[Adam Friedland]

Can you give me Barack Obama?

[Jon Favreau]

I was gonna say we have to get to Caveat's number from Barack Obama.

[Adam Friedland]

He definitely knows him. They see each other at Bohemian Grove or whatever.

[Jon Favreau]

They go, Martha's Vineyard.

[Adam Friedland]

Martha's Vineyard, that's what. Yeah, Bohemian Grove. I forgot the name. It was now. Nice sounding.

[Jon Favreau]

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[Adam Friedland]

Oh yeah, he's gonna get his own.

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[Adam Friedland]

Pretty much Israel tells me. Tells me What? Pretty much BB's like, we need your booker.

[Jon Favreau]

You have a massage.

[Adam Friedland]

Steiny from the Nelk boys this week. It's crazy. He actually that's ironically did in the middle of the. The whole thing. He went. He went on the nel. It's a. It's a bizarre world we live in, right?

[Jon Favreau]

It is a bizarre world. It's weird.

[Adam Friedland]

Chugging podcast. Remember we used to think Jerry Springer was nasty?

[Jon Favreau]

Well, Jerry Springer seems erudite for sure. Yeah. Well, he went on to be a public official.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, he was previously.

[Jon Favreau]

Was he before he had the show? I thought he was after he was mayor again.

[Adam Friedland]

This is one of my heroes. He was the mayor of Cincinnati.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

They thought he was going to be the first Jewish president. In fact, he was beloved. And they paid for a prostitute in Kentucky with a check. And then he got caught. And then he was so beloved that, you know, a writing. Writing campaign. He was reelected.

[Jon Favreau]

Okay.

[Adam Friedland]

Because he was so awesome.

[Jon Favreau]

What year was that?

[Adam Friedland]

It's my hero. What year was that? In the seventies.

[Jon Favreau]

Okay.

[Adam Friedland]

So then I think people are like, that's the Jewish Kennedy. And then he became a newscaster. And then at the end of a news broadcast, he was like on NBC or CBS or something. And he do Jerry's final thought. And then he started a very Phil Donahue style boring talk show.

[Jon Favreau]

And then the chairs and then they.

[Adam Friedland]

Were like, we got to go nasty. And then they beat Oprah in the ratings.

[Jon Favreau]

You know, the chairs were. That's a great doc to be done of like, Jeremy Springer, I think I'm.

[Adam Friedland]

Reciting to you a documentary that I.

[Jon Favreau]

Saw, like, it is a very like, trumpy. It's like a preview. It's a foreshadowing of like, I remember.

[Adam Friedland]

It being when I get sick from school. Like, I was hoping. Sick from school.

[Jon Favreau]

Price is right.

[Adam Friedland]

Price is right. Springer.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'd be like, so great. When I had Plinko, I always. I was always hoping for Plinko.

[Adam Friedland]

Plinko.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Bob was just like. Sometimes you could see on his face, he'd be like this idiot. How does he think a jet ski is? $40,000.

[Jon Favreau]

Should have gone with the $1.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, but no, like, Springer was like a treat. When you were home sick from school. You could see, like, you see people fighting each other, having affairs.

[Jon Favreau]

You want to be like a Jerry Springer.

[Adam Friedland]

No, but I think it was an awesome show.

[Jon Favreau]

What's your like, prep process?

[Adam Friedland]

Like, it depends. I mean really, it's, there's like you do like research. Like you have a packet of research, but then you kind of have to take into account like what a normal person knows about the person.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And then you build it back from there. Like I lean a con on and like a normal person doesn't know what the fucking FTC is or something, you know, or like who she is. But they do know that things are expensive and they know that companies kind of fucking them over a lot. And then they do know that people are getting fired in the government. So like, if you build it from there, then you could be like, oh, this is like an example of a civil servant. And like the, the benefits of like a robust civil service.

[Jon Favreau]

And so there's like a story or.

[Adam Friedland]

And then this is a. Yeah, this is someone that's trying to stop things from being so expensive when they're trying to break the rules. And someone also that's just like walked in to a department where like, it wasn't necessarily since the 80s, like that robust. And then she was like, we have to start working now. Yeah, we have to start, we have to stop playing beer pong. And I, I asked her, I was like, were people like photocopying their butts? Was it a Hawaiian shirt day every day?

[Jon Favreau]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

But yeah, the crazy thing about her, I mean, is that I still think about it to this day, but I, I don't think I've ever met a good person in my life. Like, I remember I asked her when the last time she lied was, and she was like, I think maybe like elementary school. But like, she wasn't lying.

[Jon Favreau]

She's like a rare liar. She's just like, what she cares about is what she does. That is her life. And she's passionate about it and she wants to do it right. And she's just like.

[Adam Friedland]

But she doesn't even conceive of. Like when I was like, you know, did you ever clap back? Because remember there was like an editorial, there was like an op ed every day about that FTC chair woman. And everyone's like, what the does that even mean?

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, right?

[Adam Friedland]

And I was like, they hated you. And I was like, do you ever like clap back? And she was like, she looks at me, she was like, I don't know.

[Jon Favreau]

You like, what is that going to do?

[Adam Friedland]

I have to win the lawsuit. And it's not even like, I'll See you on the field. It's just more like my job is I have to do good at the lawsuit.

[Jon Favreau]

I know.

[Adam Friedland]

It's just like everyone is a liar. I mean, I know we all think we're terrible people, and then we're like, if everyone around us finds out, I'm terrible. Done for.

[Jon Favreau]

Right? Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And I think she's the only person on earth.

[Jon Favreau]

You think she's the only one that I've ever met.

[Adam Friedland]

This, like, it's. It's. It's shocking.

[Jon Favreau]

In fact, you get some, like, legal types who are. End up being, like, government official. Like, that made me think of, like, Jerome Powell, right? Who. And every Fed chair is like this. They're very like. Because they're careful about the markets and anything they say could, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Plunge us into recession. And him coming out then and being like, oh, yeah, Donald Trump just tried to fuck me. Because he's, like, trying to investigate me was like, so notable because I'm like, that fucking guy is supposed to just get up and just read his numbers and just deflect questions. But, like, the fact that he has to go out there and be like, yeah, this is. I'm getting screwed. Like, that's a. That's when, you know we're in a pretty crazy fucking time.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. That's when I found out Trump was being wacko.

[Jon Favreau]

Before that. It was before that.

[Adam Friedland]

I was like, this guy's just cruising. Yeah. Yeah, I think it is. She knows, like, just like, he knows, like, a sentence in a speech like, Greenspan could, like, change the economy. Yeah. Like, right. Powell knows that. She also knows, like.

[Jon Favreau]

Like, she could lose a case.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm like. I try to get her to talk shit, and she's like, no, that's against the rules to say that.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I was like, what do you know? All the rules. The rules don't matter anymore. We all have shitcoins from Qatar.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

It's not fair. Like, I watched the. I don't know if it's Nick Shirley, but one of those guys, the new Project Veritas kind of guys.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

He went to the Frog after Minneapolis. One of these guys, he went to this ultra Orthodox town in upstate New York called Kirios Joel. And it's just all Hosses, right? And they're just doing welfare scams, right? And it was right after the Minneapolis.

[Jon Favreau]

Video, I missed this, and I watched it.

[Adam Friedland]

I was like, well, if it's. It's. It should. It's. I was like, good for them, honestly. Why can't that I mean, what, Qatar's buying a shit coin for his crappy family.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, right.

[Adam Friedland]

Like, why can't these guys just take over the school board?

[Jon Favreau]

It's not also pardoning all the people who. Who did fraud. A lot more fraud.

[Adam Friedland]

Nikki is so trying to. She's a. It's a part like her. Her husband, right?

[Jon Favreau]

Who? Nicki Minaj. Oh, now we're talking. Oh, I think Nick Shirley. Now we're talking about Nicki Minaj.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, now, Nick. Nicki Minaj. I'm just like, the. The part of the system is like, you have to suck up and then you get to do whatever you want.

[Jon Favreau]

Yes. Yeah. I was like, you see, Sam Egman Fried last night was like, I can't.

[Adam Friedland]

Stop looking at it.

[Jon Favreau]

Tweeting. He was tweeting that, like, he's become a Republican and, like, Donald Trump is actually great.

[Adam Friedland]

Good for him.

[Jon Favreau]

Which was very funny because I.

[Adam Friedland]

Me too.

[Jon Favreau]

Like, prosecutors, when they were trying him, were like, oh, here's a memo where he said that if he ever got caught, some advice he got was like, one cool thing would be to become a Republican, because then, like, Donald Trump might pardon you. And now he's, like, doing it fine. And he's. He's probably going to get the.

[Adam Friedland]

What is he, an idiot? He's not supposed to become a Republican. Good for. I mean, like.

[Jon Favreau]

I mean, it's like, why wouldn't you do that?

[Adam Friedland]

He's supposed to be in jail is.

[Jon Favreau]

Probably going to work.

[Adam Friedland]

Also, his thing did work. Did you see that?

[Jon Favreau]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

Like, the bet he made did work, but it was once he was in jail. Poor guy.

[Jon Favreau]

Poor guy.

[Adam Friedland]

We love him. We love him.

[Jon Favreau]

We love. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. He'll be on soon. I feel like everybody. Every comedian caught that.

[Adam Friedland]

I think it did. I don't really know anything, but I think it did. Look it up, nerds.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah. Every comedian who has a show where politics is discussed inevitably gets asked like there's some larger political goal they're trying to achieve. And the answer is almost like, I'm just a comedian. I'm just trying to entertain people, make them laugh.

[Adam Friedland]

Is that what they say?

[Jon Favreau]

Is that your. Is that. Is that your answer to.

[Adam Friedland]

I try to be careful about it.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I don't want to, like, speak from a position of authority that I don't qualify to have.

[Jon Favreau]

What are your thoughts?

[Adam Friedland]

Like, I could do the homework five minutes before Lina Khan comes in and be like, this is what antitrust law is. And I read it five minutes before.

[Jon Favreau]

Right.

[Adam Friedland]

But instead, like, I have my Own opinions. Obviously, when I had Richie Torres on, like, I felt like I could speak to, like, the. The situation in Israel, you know, like, because I've, like, you know, I studied Middle Eastern politics in college, I lived in Israel, and I'm Jewish. Like, I felt, like, comfortable enough to do it. But then when I see, like, comedians spouting off about, like, public health statistics and, like, disease transmission, I'm like, I don't know that we talk about our penises on. I mean, like, there's nothing that qualifies us for that. And, like. But you can really say anything you want on the Internet. So it's. It's a matter of, like, I could say anything. So I have to hold myself to a standard. I'm not gonna go to jail if I'm like, adam Freeland is the smartest man.

[Jon Favreau]

But, like, is there any part of. Like, since you're interviewing a bunch of political people now, is there any part of you that's thinking, okay, you have political opinions, you have political values. You clearly think the environment right now is very fucked up as it is. When you have political people on, is there any part of you who's like, I want the audience to walk away thinking, you know, maybe changing their minds, maybe.

[Adam Friedland]

No. It makes it fun, right? Like, if I'm not gonna, like, spout off about, like, some House Resolution 3722, you know, whatever, like, I can ask questions that they're not familiar with, Right? So I can just ask, like, a basic question about, like. I do feel comfortable saying, like, oh, yeah, well, no one likes the government. Like, why do you want to be in the government? Right. In a generic sense, that's a larger question that they kind of don't grapple with very often, you know, especially Democrats, because they're just, like, not used to, like, this kind of format.

[Jon Favreau]

No. You know, no, they had a lot of time. The Richie Taurus thing is interesting because I had heard about it because it was, you know, you made some. Made some news, but then watching it, like. And you're like this with a lot of guests, even guests that you don't agree with or, you know, like, you're very nice and respectful to these guests. Like, I thought you were to him, too. Like, the idea that he walked off and was like, that was unfair. You were understanding, you were disagreeing with them, but you were almost. You were hurt.

[Adam Friedland]

The story is. You have to find, like, what's interesting. The story there is that this person comes from extreme poverty and, like, represents the poorest district in Congress. And is gay and, like, try to kill himself and then made it all the way to Congress. I mean, that's like a. Yeah, should be on his face. An inspirational story. And then you see, like, well, why the hell are you, like. You tweet about Israel like, 80% of the time.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You know, and it's just like, how do you get there?

[Jon Favreau]

Right, right.

[Adam Friedland]

So that's like, as a. As a story, like, you tell. You tell his background, you tell where he comes from, and then you try to understand, instead of me being like, you shill, you know.

[Jon Favreau]

Like. Right. You're not trying to get them. You're just trying to actually understand the thing that you don't understand about them.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, yeah, I mean, I really don't want to have an argument. You know, I want to have, like, kind of a conversation that reflects something like, culturally. Oh, God, when I talk this way, like, culturally relevant. I don't know. And of our generation story, there is. Is, like, why this guy who comes from such meager beginnings and has accomplished so much and overcome so much, like, why he lands here. That's the interesting story.

[Jon Favreau]

Do you feel like you got an answer on that from him?

[Adam Friedland]

No. I think that his assumption was that I was trying to trap him or something.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

But in reality, it's just like, I'm a Jewish person. I'm trying to. I'm trying to, like, express to him, like, I was like, you know, you're speaking for the experience of Jewish people, and I have a different experience. And. And then he was telling me that that was anti Semitic of me, and it was just like. But, like, beyond that, it's like, I wasn't trying to put him in that position. I was really just trying to understand, like, how does it work when someone, like, ostensibly he was very, like, idealistic and, like, driven and, you know, had a tough time in life and, like, went into politics and really went for it. How does it work where they, like, end up there? Because that's. Yeah, that's a good story to investigate. Right. And the Internet is all people yelling at each other all the time, and it's like, for zero dollars. Can you imagine these guys for zero, all of them. You're not even paying these guys.

[Jon Favreau]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

Right. Yeah.

[Jon Favreau]

Not at all.

[Adam Friedland]

No.

[Jon Favreau]

People are tweet, paper, tweet.

[Adam Friedland]

People are yelling at, like, the fucking. The Secretary of fucking Agriculture all day long for $0, just yelling at them. They're not seeing it these days.

[Jon Favreau]

Some of them are saying it.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. The Internet, like, bums people out.

[Jon Favreau]

I Only yell at people online that I know they're going to see it.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, you're in the game, baby.

[Jon Favreau]

I'm in the game.

[Adam Friedland]

And you're making money. It's your job.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah. Not from the posting exactly. But not. Not directly from the posting.

[Adam Friedland]

Were it not my job, I would be a ghost. You know? Like, I wouldn't be. It's insane to be. Yeah. I don't know. On the Internet with a. With an avatar, just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. I'm the press secretary for Adam. Like, shut up. No, I mean, but like, I have to do it because I'm online. But like, independent of that, like the attempt to make something that people. Makes people feel all right. Yeah. Is. I feel like noble, perhaps. I don't know. I hope it does.

[Jon Favreau]

It is very anti. I mean, even though it's like a YouTube show. Very anti Internet. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. The new year doesn't require a new you. Maybe just a less burdened you. Therapy can help more easily identify what weighs you down by offering an unbiased perspective to better understand your relationships, motivations and emotions.

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I'm only interested in biased perspectives. That's sort of my.

[Jon Favreau]

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[Adam Friedland]

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[Jon Favreau]

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[Adam Friedland]

You know, nothing. Light as a feather, stiff as a board.

[Jon Favreau]

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[Adam Friedland]

It's.

[Jon Favreau]

Maybe everyone's. What do you. Why. How do you think the phones made everyone insane? I mean, there's a lot of different theories, but it's. It's. I think it's maybe the worst thing that we're dealing. It's. I think it's like, look at everything. I don't know if it's the cause of everything, but it is one of the main causes of all the bullshit that we're dealing with.

[Adam Friedland]

I'll respond with a question. Do you think that seeing two people getting shot in the head.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

In the last week, we're, like, desensitized because, like, every time you go on Twitter, you just see someone getting shot in the head. It's like, oh, it's another getting shot in the head video.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You know that Adam Curtis documentary, Hyper Normalization?

[Jon Favreau]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

So he, like, shows this montage of, like, movies where you see, like, buildings exploding and stuff like that. Yeah, that. That preceded 911 and it. The kind of. The concept was that kind of numbed us to the. To, like, the. The terror and like. Yeah, it did look like Independence Day, 9 11.

[Jon Favreau]

A little bit. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You know?

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And, yeah, we just see people getting shot in the head. Like, I really think that the Minnesota video is like, yes, there's been a response that's like, this is insane. But, like, perhaps it's even more insane than is dawning on people. Because it's.

[Jon Favreau]

It is because we see it all the time. My wife said this to me because she is.

[Adam Friedland]

She said, I want to shoot you in the head.

[Jon Favreau]

She did?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Jon Favreau]

She. Maybe because she was in politics, and then now she's not as much, so she tries not to be online as much. But after Minnesota was, like, scrolling and looking, and she's like, we're not meant to see, like, this video all the time. And then you don't just see the video and have everyone be like, that is such a tragedy. How awful. You see the video over and over again, and then you see this fight online with people who are like, that didn't really happen, or they deserved it. They had it coming. And you're just. That really gets you the fight.

[Adam Friedland]

That's what exactly is the insane part where it's just like, the guy didn't get hit by the car. He didn't get hit by the car. The car. We also. He did get hit by the car.

[Jon Favreau]

If you feel crazy.

[Adam Friedland]

Like, yeah, he's doing like a slip and fall, and the ice guy has a neck brace now, and he's like, I was terrified. Like, we saw a lady get shot in the head three times. Just the gun was like, right there.

[Jon Favreau]

And then they're like, well, you know, she was mouthing off.

[Adam Friedland]

I mean, like, they're lying to our faces, really. And. But, like, the. The. The people are going along with it. That's the really crazy part.

[Jon Favreau]

That's why I can't tell, though, if they're going along with it. Like, if they, in their heart of hearts, believe this and have been radicalized by all the bullshit they're seeing online, or if they're just like, I gotta be on the team and I gotta just. I gotta just say it anyway, even if I don't necessarily believe it. It's like, I can't figure it out, I guess. Different for different people, I'm sure.

[Adam Friedland]

But I know someone that works in the music industry, right? And, like, they. The labels have recognized that, like, Stan culture is, like, a thing the music industry.

[Jon Favreau]

But, like.

[Adam Friedland]

But yeah, they basically, what they do is now they. They artificially create their bots, and then human beings see them and then they join. So they, like. They mimic, like, Stan, like communities, and then it becomes a real thing.

[Jon Favreau]

Yes.

[Adam Friedland]

And you know, what is the percentage of like, accounts on Twitter that are Bots at this point.

[Jon Favreau]

I know Elon's been working really hard to cut him down, but probably a lot.

[Adam Friedland]

Who's doing the Holocaust didn't happen stuff.

[Jon Favreau]

Who's doing it? Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Is it Nick?

[Jon Favreau]

Nick. Nick Fuentes? Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Oh, I thought Mullen. I thought, oh, him.

[Jon Favreau]

There's like a whole gang that he's got.

[Adam Friedland]

I mean, there's just sneaky.

[Jon Favreau]

I don't know. There's all these.

[Adam Friedland]

No, but those are real guys.

[Jon Favreau]

I'm saying clavicular, but I feel like.

[Adam Friedland]

There'S just so many, like. And Frank wrote that in ballpoint pen. That couldn't.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, there's a lot of that too.

[Adam Friedland]

I feel like there's.

[Jon Favreau]

But it's hard to tell now between the bots and the real people.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, exactly. My understanding is that it was just a ton and then it becomes that scary to me. And then beyond that, I think that we were heading in this direction, obviously, and then we had to stay home for two years and we went on the phone, everyone up.

[Jon Favreau]

I think everyone has PTSD from. We don't have a pandemic era. And like, we're like. We have collective PTSD and like, no one wants to deal with it. No one wants to talk about it. Well, so we're all just like, we're going to go on and be fucking nuts. The whole country.

[Adam Friedland]

It's a conversation that it has to happen because like a. Whenever that topic comes up, it's either it's Fauci, the vaccine. That's the. That's the only part that's discussed. And like, yes. If I had to sit with my parents for two years, that would suck.

[Jon Favreau]

Suck.

[Adam Friedland]

It was so fun to see my friends at school.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You know, and the only way we discuss kids in popular discourse is like their genitals. Seriously, it's. It's perverse. And like, we're like these kids just like, they didn't get to see their friends for two years.

[Jon Favreau]

I know. And now that I have kids who are. My kids are 5 and 2 all the time, I'm like, if they had to be in this house with me and Emily for two years doing homeschool or like doing zoom school, I would have fucking lost it. Yeah, I would have. Like, I don't know what I would have done beyond that. Beyond that. Like, of course the parents are all crazy.

[Adam Friedland]

People died of COVID I mean, like, I. I know far more people in this anecdotal that. I know people that have committed suicide. I know people that have overdose on drugs People that have relapsed on drugs and alcohol, like, while they were in lockdown, they were in. They were in recovery. And, like, yeah, that is not discussed.

[Jon Favreau]

I mean, like, I know.

[Adam Friedland]

And yeah, beyond that, people just went on their phones and then now they're. I don't know, like, what are your.

[Jon Favreau]

Like, social media habits? And. And I imagine they're like, you're not on all the time.

[Adam Friedland]

But my reels algorithm is. Aw, it's.

[Jon Favreau]

That's. That's your thing, you reels is. No, TikTok. Just reels.

[Adam Friedland]

I don't know. I don't know. TikTok. I pay a kid for that. But, like, yeah, no, baby, my reels are just funny. The Internet used to be funny.

[Jon Favreau]

It used to be really funny.

[Adam Friedland]

It used to be a place you.

[Jon Favreau]

2010 was a great time for the Internet.

[Adam Friedland]

You just laugh. You see a lady trying to stomp grapes and she fudgeing, eats shit.

[Jon Favreau]

And then, like, also then, like, something happens in the world and then everyone gets on and they all. They have jokes about the thing that just happened. They're inappropriate and it's fun and whatever. And now it's just like, yeah, yeah. Like, what's. How. What's your media diet? Like, how are you getting the news?

[Adam Friedland]

I'm working and thank God. I just have too much work to do on the show.

[Jon Favreau]

So you're getting news just based on, like, if you have a guest, you're like, okay, I got to be up on the news.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm researching for the next guest. Yeah, just like getting New York Times updates or going scrolling the front page of the. Of the Times app and then reading articles. But, like, independent of that, like, I call. I told you, my sister called me. She was like, the fucking east wing of the White House. I'm mad and I'm like, what the. What, were you a fan? I was like, I didn't even know it could be a thing that you could be mad about. And she's like. I'm like, it's Trump. He's going to build some crap. He's going to build some gold crap. That's what. Obviously he's going to like, the ballroom. There's concentration camps in America right now. There are concentration camps. People are mad. And that they can't have a waltz in the.

[Jon Favreau]

This. I was thinking this yesterday because I'm like, you know, like, I missed it. Sorry. So they're not going to have real investigations into the fact that the government, federal agents just murdered two American citizens, and they're just Going to sweep these under their eyes. And I was like, okay. People spent three or four months being like, release the Epstein files. Which is, of course. Yeah, they should. And they're releasing them. But I'm like, if people got upset about that, then we should definitely try to get upset about the fact that they're just covering up a couple murders now. Yeah, I mean. I mean, like, what. What is it?

[Adam Friedland]

Fucks me up, dude. We talked about on the show when you were on it, but, like, we.

[Jon Favreau]

Recorded that December before the shit really.

[Adam Friedland]

Hit the fan, right before we planned the murders.

[Jon Favreau]

How have you been feeling since the Minneapolis stuff has gone down? Have you been processing it?

[Adam Friedland]

I don't think the next question is being asked, which is, like, how many fucking migrants have been shot in the head also? Like, that's the question.

[Jon Favreau]

And the detention centers are in a whole other.

[Adam Friedland]

I understand. I don't want to go, like, you know, white privilege. I mean, that's. You know, I'm from Cumtown. Right. Like, I'm from. I'm from. I'm from a problematic white guy podcast. But it's just like, do we not. We have to ask the next question? I mean, because, like, I grew up in the Southwest, and I grew up around a lot of Latinos, and, like, they're just people that want to make more money for their families.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And I think about the ICE guys, and I think about, like, what it must be like to have a job where there's a kid screaming, crying, and you're, like, arresting their parents.

[Jon Favreau]

I know.

[Adam Friedland]

What is that job? Like, like, why? Like, getting that job. And it's just like, we abolish ice, they're gonna reintegrate into society. We don't even know their faces. There's something about, like. I don't know. It is growing up around a lot of Latinos in Las Vegas, and I was born in la. And, like, there's something about them where it's just, like, they're not doing daycare scams. They are just working as hard as they can. And I know it's a guy. They say it was Biden's fault. That's why we have to throw them in the cage.

[Jon Favreau]

Right.

[Adam Friedland]

It's a kid crying. And, like, on a basic level, like, we talked about this when you're on the show, like, does someone watch that? Are they like, this is great.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Does someone, like, does.

[Jon Favreau]

There are. Unfortunately, there's, like, maybe a third of.

[Adam Friedland]

Do you think watching the image of the kids screaming and, like, the guy, like, just getting thrown like, and the guy in the mask, I mean, it's scary even just like the optics of it.

[Jon Favreau]

This is what I. This is what I don't understand.

[Adam Friedland]

Jesse Waters is watching that and he's like, this is awesome.

[Jon Favreau]

There's one segment I think, that thinks this is awesome. There's another that thinks this is just, this is what happens because Biden let all those people in. So this is what has to happen. It's Biden's fault that this happened.

[Adam Friedland]

It doesn't make any sense.

[Jon Favreau]

Doesn't make any sense. Then there's the people who just lie to themselves and tell them, I was really upset that that whole story, I mean, I'm upset about 20 stories a day. But the one about the 5 year old child Liam in Minneapolis who's like just, you could sit in and like, partly just cause I heard every detail of the story, right? There's a million other stories like that, I'm sure. But he's like, he's five years old. Like, my kid's five years old, he's in his class, his friends miss him, he's in Minneapolis and they take him, they grab him. Now he's in a detention center in Texas, he's sick. And the argument that you get from all the fucking MAGA people, and these aren't just like random, they're not like bots on Twitter. These are like the MAGA influencers. They're like, well, the father abandoned him in the snow and the vice president made this argument. He's like, what were we supposed to do? Was the ICE agents just supposed to leave him to freeze in the snow? Of course they had to take him.

[Adam Friedland]

Yes, that's what people are saying in the snow.

[Jon Favreau]

And the mother didn't want him. I was like, oh yeah, the mother didn't want him. The mother who couldn't come outside because she thought she was gonna get kidnapped as well. So now you moved him to Texas for what? And they're like, well, the ICE agents are playing his favorite music and he's gonna be well cared for in this detention facility. Like, these are the things they say to justify it. And so they're like, you libs, you libs are freaking out because you think this poor 5 year old is like, we took him from his family, but actually it's just a normal operation. And the mom didn't want him and the dad didn't want him. So thank God for the ICE agents. Like, this is the story that they tell.

[Adam Friedland]

Whether they like it or not. There are people that live around Us that do crap that make things work in our society and we don't. We think of them as furniture.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And when you put it in that context of, like, these are the people we're doing it to. Right. These are people that have zero power in society. And it isn't mass deportation. It's this. Trump is getting pissed at a new city, and then just at random, like, doing this. There's no. Like, you could just see. Like. I don't see, like, he's not hitting ag, is he?

[Jon Favreau]

No, not yet. No, I don't think.

[Adam Friedland]

No, he said he wouldn't.

[Jon Favreau]

You know, like, they're not going to red states. They had a crazy operation in Maine that was doing similar shit to Minneapolis. And then Susan Collins, because she's up for reelection and they need her to keep the Senate, like, said something to Kristi Noem, and then yesterday, they're like, all right, operation over in Maine, it's like, oh, I thought it was a serious. I guess you could just end it whenever you want. I guess it's not that important to do.

[Adam Friedland]

It really. Just fucks with me.

[Jon Favreau]

It does.

[Adam Friedland]

It fucks with me, too, because it's like, we watch these two people get shot, but the next question has to be like, how many fucking people have been shot before?

[Jon Favreau]

Shot? We don't know, or just shot, sent away, sent to third countries, disappeared, tortured in a prison, abused in a prison. These detention centers, many of them legal.

[Adam Friedland]

Most of them nonviolent.

[Jon Favreau]

That's the other thing is they want. They're telling the story of people running across the border illegally and just laying around and getting all this public benefits they don't deserve. But, like, most of the people now that they're grabbing are people who came here, are waiting for an asylum hearing. And even if you said, okay, I want to deny your asylum claim, you could do it in a way where you're like, your claim is denied. Let's take your family, and we're going to bring you here, and, like, you have to leave. Still terrible. Whatever. But, like, you certainly don't need to be grabbing a kid, grabbing a mother, separating them, throwing them in a detention center, having them just, like, sit there and rot in these fucking terrible conditions for a year and then deny their asylum claim. And then, I mean, like, it's just. It's.

[Adam Friedland]

Law enforcement is supposed to keep us safe.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, right, right, right, right.

[Adam Friedland]

Like, how does this keep us safe?

[Jon Favreau]

It. It does not. It does not.

[Adam Friedland]

It doesn't keep us safe whatsoever. It's just unflinching Cruelty, evil. I mean, it's. It's just evil.

[Jon Favreau]

I know. I know what I was talking about.

[Adam Friedland]

And it. It only now seems to resonate. I'm glad it does. But like, I. It didn't dawn on me, like, for a while, and then I kind of. I spoke to one of the episodes we did, which is now. We did months ago.

[Jon Favreau]

Fuck.

[Adam Friedland]

Congressman was describing to me what the Florida detention facility is.

[Jon Favreau]

Alligator Alcatraz.

[Adam Friedland]

And yeah, it just didn't dawn on me. Like, I understood an abstract. And then that was kind of the moment the penny dropped. And I'm. Like I said to you last time we talked, but, like, when you learn about how this shit's happened before. Yeah, like, I'm Jewish. Like, you know, they. It's not as if the entire country of Germany decided overnight to be anti Semitic. Right? Yeah, that's not how it works. Like, what it happens is, is they'd see people get taken. They see their businesses closed and they go to the office the next day, you know, and like. And then if I look in the mirror, I'm like, yeah, I went to the fucking office the next day. You know, my life wasn't really disrupted.

[Jon Favreau]

Right.

[Adam Friedland]

Maybe if a fucking thing of blueberries is $9, you know, I mean, but like, I. Yeah, people just like, went to the office the next day that would. They had the Dundees and like, you know, like, German. Whatever they were doing in Germany with.

[Jon Favreau]

Dwight, they were always having the Dundees.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, they had a guy named Dwight Schru for sure.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

In the German. But like, they.

[Jon Favreau]

A lot of paper.

[Adam Friedland]

But it wasn't like they were sent to the east, you know, they were.

[Jon Favreau]

Somebody can't figure out, though, is like you mentioned those ICE agents and like, how do they go home? And you wonder how to have a country with people who have those jobs and do that. And like, is there humanity in those people that you are trying to reach and be like, hey, come back. Come back to the light, you know, or. Cause like, what's your other option to just, like, jail them all? Kick them out of the country too? Like, I just. I don't know.

[Adam Friedland]

I guess you have to ask a. A bigger question, I guess, like, how does it happen?

[Jon Favreau]

Right.

[Adam Friedland]

It's probably because of the phone. Has to be.

[Jon Favreau]

Well, I thought that too. I was like, some of these people who think, you know, that Renee Goode or Alex Priddy deserved it or that it's great that we're putting them in these detention centers. Like, if it was someone on your street in Your neighborhood, even if you didn't know them well, who they either shot in the head or it was someone who was cleaning your house that you knew that you saw all the time, and someone just grabbed them and took them away from their children. Like, even if you're a right winger, you probably look at that, right. And be like, that's up. Yeah, I hope. Maybe not. Maybe you're like, that's great.

[Adam Friedland]

But, like, I want to think that human beings. Yes. I mean, I want to think that people are good and that if they saw. If Jesse Waters saw it happening, he'd be like, yeah. You know, but then I think about these guys that are actually doing it.

[Jon Favreau]

I know.

[Adam Friedland]

And then I'm like, what? That it goes a step beyond. It's like what compels a person. It's dark. I mean, I just have that image of just a family being, like, separated.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

For a job. Start a racist podcast. What are you doing? No.

[Jon Favreau]

How cool are the Democrats? They're gonna fix things, right? Who have you been impressed with that you've had on?

[Adam Friedland]

Jon Favreau, of course.

[Jon Favreau]

That was my leading question.

[Adam Friedland]

Alec Baldwin. I think Chris Murphy was good.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, I thought.

[Adam Friedland]

I thought it was good.

[Jon Favreau]

I thought Murphy was great.

[Adam Friedland]

I think Mom Donnie did. I do think we can sniff on people.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I think it's condescending that people are going to fall for crap. And I think that they can tell, like, I mean, some of the worst people I know from growing up, some dogs I grew up with who were like, this is a radical Islamic terror, you know, like, who are going hair on fire, like. And first of all, they didn't live in New York. That's what the news was telling them. The news was telling him that he was going to do the Sharia law. Suddenly New York, it would be illegal to be Jewish or.

[Jon Favreau]

It is funny in New York. I notice a lot of, like, right wing people now being like, I'm glad that Mamdani has moderated as mayor and as mor. And I'm like, has he? Or did you just buy into a caricature that the news told you about? Because.

[Adam Friedland]

And the Democratic Party and Cuomo. But. But beyond that, those guys, like, I got texts from those guys afterwards and they're like, while I still disagree with his politics, he seems pretty chill, actually. And I was like, for the sake of the city, it's like people needed to calm down. And that. That made me feel like, good about, like, people responding that way. But the show's cool and I really enjoyed doing it. But like, I'm very careful about, like, where I see myself interacting with this kind of stuff.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, in what way?

[Adam Friedland]

I don't want to overstep my bounds. I don't want to be irresponsible and I don't want to start loving the smell of my own farts. You know, and it's very easy if you're like gaining an audience and people are celebrating you.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah. You should have all the 20, 28 candidates, potential candidates on.

[Adam Friedland]

We got, we got one coming on next month.

[Jon Favreau]

Because I feel like, who's that? Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. That'll be fun.

[Adam Friedland]

Welcome to your funeral again, of course.

[Jon Favreau]

Because I think, Mr. Gordon, for me, that's a good test if they can hang with you for, for an hour on your show.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, now Democrats just say the F word. That's their thing.

[Jon Favreau]

And trump. Fuck you, Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer's like tweeting, tweeting, fuck, fuck, Fuck to you.

[Adam Friedland]

Fuck to you, Donald. No, the depressing thing for me was like, when he's like, like he wants to reform. Like when he said body cameras, I was like, do you realize there was 1,000 cameras around when we saw someone getting shot in the head? What is it one more camera gonna do? Yeah, and we got the body cameras. We're fine now. We shut down the government and we got one. We got a. Some of them don't work. And they do also have the controls to turn it on and off. They also have the ability to turn it off whenever they want. We're gonna figure out the manual. I haven't read it. That's what's gonna happen. They're gonna shut down the government and they're gonna get body cameras. And this is what they wanna tell.

[Jon Favreau]

Like, this is my problem with Democrat. But they've also, they've also become so afraid of people criticizing them for not being tough enough or fighting hard enough or whatever that they are unwilling to just be honest about like, the real limitations. Like, here's the thing, they could shut down DHS for the rest of the year and it wouldn't do anything to ICE and ice's operations because they have all this fucking money from the bill from last year so they can kill Gorgeous. Which is like one thing you might wanna say. If you're gonna shut down, the government's like, hey, we'll do this. And the body cams are like, fucking great. We got em, but we're not gonna celebrate over that. But we can get a few tiny things. We're never gonna defund ICE until there's a Democrat elected president.

[Adam Friedland]

They say, over, over, over again. Abolish ice. Abolish ice. That's the only option, right? They have to say, we have to end this program.

[Jon Favreau]

But even now, there's like, you gotta say, abolish ice. You gotta say, abolish ice. I'm. No one. The first. The first opportunity you're ever going to get to abolish ICE is January 2029. There's zero chance of it happening before that.

[Adam Friedland]

They're pro ice.

[Jon Favreau]

You're right. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying.

[Adam Friedland]

Politically, that's how you distinct. You make yourself distinct.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, ICE is bad.

[Adam Friedland]

We're going to get a. We're going to get a GoPro. Shut up, you idiot.

[Jon Favreau]

Well, the other thing is, like, there's a lot of.

[Adam Friedland]

We're going to get a fuck pro. Fuck pro. We're investing in fuck pros for all of the. They're gonna do pov. Oh, no.

[Jon Favreau]

Sorry.

[Adam Friedland]

We always talk about nasty stuff.

[Jon Favreau]

We do. Are you gonna. Are you really gonna do Abby Phillips argument show? Are you supposed to be on that?

[Adam Friedland]

Me on.

[Jon Favreau]

I saw you say, if Scott wants.

[Adam Friedland]

Me to put a.

[Jon Favreau]

The nail in the coffin, can we do prep for that?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, I don't know what the topics are. What, is it good to kill everyone?

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, yeah, it's that probably that. It's like news of the day. They're just gonna come right at you. Oh, my God.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm just gonna, like, sit there and be like, this is ridiculous. Ridiculous. Guys, I'm gonna do John. You gotta cut this. I'm gonna do the John Stewart. I. I actually.

[Jon Favreau]

Sweater.

[Adam Friedland]

You gotta go sweater. Yeah, I'm gonna go cut all of this. I'm gonna go sweater Stewart. Sweater Stewart.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, Millennial sweater Stewart.

[Adam Friedland]

Scott's gonna be peeing his pants like Paul Begala. Paul Begala. You remember what he looked like?

[Jon Favreau]

You were. Scott drives me insane. You were very. You were very respectful and nice to Scott.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, I was just like.

[Jon Favreau]

You did. You did the. The thing at the end of.

[Adam Friedland]

What are you talking.

[Jon Favreau]

The porn in libraries. The porn in the kids libraries.

[Adam Friedland]

That's to ask them what they're talking about.

[Jon Favreau]

He was like, no, there's. There's some porn in the kids libraries. And you're like, what? Give me one example of porn.

[Adam Friedland]

It's like, what are you. Well, yeah, I'm like, okay, it's bad if they do that. So what are you talking about? And they're like, look it up. You could look it up. Yeah. Their whole thing is that their girlfriend goes to Canada. And if you ask that, like, it's just like, the Democrats take the bait every time. Because the Democrats have to be like. Their normal response will be like, like, we celebrate the porn. We celebrate the beautiful porn that we.

[Jon Favreau]

Want our children to be able to like it.

[Adam Friedland]

And they're like, oh, we did it. Scott again. Fell for it again. The gorgeous. The beautiful porn.

[Jon Favreau]

Porn for all.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, it's just like, they're like, it's good. And then they're. But the opposite is not. It's good. It's like. That sounds not real Fuel. Like, I bring up this example. It's like, the Little Mermaid is black. They're like, they're mad about it. And then instead of being like, for all the black little mermaids out there, this is a moment. Instead of just being like, hey, it's a baby movie. And you sound like a. Right now, you're sounding like a. You're upset about a baby movie. You're in the government and you're sat.

[Jon Favreau]

You. You're pathetic.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, you ruined my childhood. Shut up. You're an adult. You sound like a pussy. You just have to, like, actually be mean to them back. In fact.

[Jon Favreau]

No, I agree.

[Adam Friedland]

Instead of being like. And the. This is the Wakanda of mermaids. It's just like, shut up. Who cares? It's a baby movie. I know. Like, it doesn't matter if the Little Mermaid is black.

[Jon Favreau]

You're taking a knee in a kente claw.

[Adam Friedland]

I can't stand this because of the Little Mermaid. Why do I know this? This. And Chuck is like. Wait, the Chuck is like the black mermaids.

[Jon Favreau]

We.

[Adam Friedland]

We. We're going to get GoPros on. They're going to this. Oh, God. Anyway, anyway, well, thanks, Lewis Black right now ranting.

[Jon Favreau]

Come back hot next anytime. Fun dude. Let me know. Let me know how I feel like we.

[Adam Friedland]

We do. We do good. We should.

[Jon Favreau]

We should take this on the road.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jon Favreau]

All right.

[Adam Friedland]

Where do you want to go? I don't know. The Grand Old Opry.

[Jon Favreau]

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