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I'm your host, Andrew Rines, and I'm excited to bring you another episode and absolutely free. This is one of over 80 episodes released monthly for your enjoyment. Now let's get into this episode. Around Dodge City and in the territory on west, there's just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers, and that's with a U.S. marshal and the smell of good gun smoke. Gunsmoke, starring William Conrad. The story of the violence that moved west with young America and the story of a man who moved with it. I'm that man. Matt Dillon, United States Marshal. The first man they look for and the last they want to meet. It's a chancy job and it makes a man watchful and a little lonely. Limu game. And Doug, here we have the limu emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us. Cut the camera. They see us. Only pay for what you need@libertymutual.com Liberty, Liberty. Liberty Savings Ferry Unwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company and affiliates excludes Massachusetts People today go more take their pleasures with them. This is the lively life, the life for Pepsi Cola. Light, bracing, clean tasting Pepsi. So think young. Say Pepsi. Please take Pepsi wherever you go. So go here and pick the drink that lets you drink young as you sing. Yes, get the right one, the modern light one. Now a Pepsi for those who think young. Matt. Hey, Matt. Huh? Hello, Doc Giddy. Hello, Matt. How do you like my new buggy? Matt. Hey, that's a nice rig. Nice? It's a beauty. That sure is, Doc. Took me for a drive up the Arkansas aways. And this buggy rides about as easy as anything I was ever in. Yeah, it's okay for summer. What do you mean, for summer? Well, you can't drive that thing around in the snow, can you, Doc? You wouldn't even get out of dodging. I don't know why we stopped to talk to him at all, Kitty. Besides, I thought you were supposed to have left town, Matt. I'm leaving right now, Doc. Oh, where you going? Mrs. Chester and I are riding over to El Kader. What for? Word came in that Kerry Post is holed up over there. Kerry Post? I never even heard of him. Well, he's a killer from the Dakota territory. Al Qaeda's as far south as he's ever been. I don't know him either, Kitty. All I've got is his picture on a wanted poster. Yeah, I was in Al Qaeda once. Matt's a n town. Yeah, so I've heard. Well, at least if you've never been there. Well, nobody knows you, you see, and you can ride in free and easy. Well, that ought to help some. It will, Kitty. A lot. Well, good luck, Matt. Thanks, Kitty. I'll see you both when I get back. I swear, Mr. Dylan, this alcator's dustier and dodge is. I can't hardly see to breathe. You can't what? I can't do nothing about a glass of beer. Then let's try the saloon here. Looks like as good a place as any to get acquainted. I don't need no persuading. What do you have, gentlemen? You got some beer? First we have make it to bartender. Okay. Uh oh. Looks like we're gonna have company, Mr. John. What? You fellows are strangers here, ain't you? Yeah. Yeah, we are. That's where I start. Grimes is my name. Cicero Grimes. Now, I ain't asking yours. Don't get me wrong. We got nothing to hide. My name's Dylan. This is Chester Proudfoot. How you do? Welcome to Altator, gentlemen. I'll tell you something else. You buy me a beer and I'll. I won't ask no question, but I'll talk to you rebiding. You're honest, of course. I won't talk no crook. Well, we're pretty honest. Crimes, Cicero will do. Okay, bartender, make that three beers, will you? Three beers. I thank you, Dylan. And you too, Mr. Chester. Oh, Chester Alcator. Pretty lively town, Cicero. Twas and taint what? Yeah. Twas lively. Taint no more. Oh, why is that? Joe Fy, he done it. Come here two weeks ago and there ain't been a fight since. Tell me about this Joe Fy, sir. Oh, yeah. Hello. Oh, Joe Fy, he don't bother me, Dylan. I'm peaceful man. I don't even carry a gun. It's a wild ones, fellas like Cherry Post and such. All that Joe Fye gets after. Did you say carry post? Take it easy. That's all right. Terry Post ain't here anymore, Joe Fire run him out of town right off. He run three other fellas out, too. Oh, what for? Of course, you won't stand for no disorder. That's why it was all gunmen. Too bad. Terry Post, he said he'd wait till somebody shoots Joe Fy and then he's coming back. This Joe Fy must be quite a gunman himself. Oh, my. None better need a man in the whole country to stand up to him. Is that so? Yeah. Been here two weeks. Nobody's faced him yet. Well, if nobody ain't faced him, how do you know he's such a good gunman? You find out, Chester, when you see him. It don't make no sense to me. What's his game, Cicero? Why does he want to Ron el cater? Well, it's his job, Dylan. His job? Sure. Joe Fy is a United States marshal. He's a what? He's a United States marshal. Now, what's wrong with that, Cicero? Maybe you don't know it, but there's only one United States marshal in this whole territory, and he's standing. Hold it, Chester. We'll find out what's going on here, son. Yes, sir. Meantime, don't worry about Joe Fy. He isn't after you. No, he won't bother you none, Chester. But Dylan here, that's different. What do you mean? Well, Dylan looks like a gunman to me. And if there's one thing Joe Fire won't stand for around here, it's a gunman. Yes, sir. He's going to run Dylan out of town first time he lay eyes on him. And Doug here we have the Limu emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug. Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us. Cut the camera. They see us. 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Take a fun run in the car that got 25.09 miles per gallon to win both first and second in Class C of this year's mobile gas economy run. The Buick Special at your dealers. Now. You know, Mr. Dawn, I don't like Elkada no better than I did when we first rode in. Well, it's no San Francisco, that's for sure. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Hello. I don't believe I've seen you men in Al Qaeda before. We've never been here before. That's probably the reason. Staying long? Hadn't thought about it one way or the other. You know who I am? Marshall fy, isn't it? I don't like gunmen here. I ain't no gunman. I was thinking more of your friend than you. You moving pretty fast, marshal. I mean business, gentlemen. You make trouble here, I'll kill both of you. What many a man has died who was a little slow believing me. Mister, you've killed a lot of men, huh? Everyone that's ever crossed me. How many's that? I don't keep count. It don't matter. No, I don't guess it does. There's a fellow looking for pleasure. He sure is, isn't he? Now I won't tolerate that. You gonna stop him? I have to kill him. Oh, now look, you can't do that. Wait a minute, Chester. They must be friends of his there sure shutting him up. They told him. You see, they're pointing over here at me. The man didn't know. He hasn't been to town since I took over. He sure did calm down fast enough. There he goes, mild as milk. You should thank those men for that. They just saved his life. That's a pretty tight town you keep. But don't you forget it either of you. Good day. Well, of all the blowed up, mean hog headed men I ever did see. I don't know whether it's his being smart or everybody else around here being stupid, but it's sure working. I mean, he's got them all buffaloed and he hasn't had to fight once. Did you see how he handled that cowboy? He let those other men do his work for him with us. He waited until he was sure that we knew about his reputation before he got tough. You mean you don't think he's a gunman at all? I don't know what he is, Chester. But I got an idea how I might find out. How? I'll show you. And if I can take care of Joe Fye, then all I'll have to do is sit here and wait for Carrie Post to ride back into town. The first thing I did was to go to the General and buy an old navy pistol and a worn out holster and a cartridge belt. From there we went back to the Alamo Saloon and spent the next two hours talking to Cicero Grimes. This time I told him who I was. And after I explained the whole deal to him a couple of times, he seemed willing to sit in. There's only one thing I don't like about Marshal Dillon. What's that? Supposing you guessed it's wrong. Supposing Joe Fire is something of a gunman after all. I ain't got no bullets in my gun. Oh, don't you worry about that, Cicero. I'll be right there. Well, it still could go wrong. If it does, I'll get shot. That's a chance you're taking to help the law, Cicero. You don't have to do it if you don't want to. But you get paid for taking chances, Marshall. I don't. No, you don't. But there's one thing. You'll be a kind of a hero. Say I will, won't I? Sure. And everybody will be buying you drinks from here on out, Cicero. Or you'll be famous like. Like George Washington and all them fellas. Yeah. Say, that's getting paid kinda, ain't it? Why, sure it is. Hey, Marshall, how come you picked me for this job? There's just lots of fellows could help you out. No, no, they're not. You're the only man in town that's least expected to stand up to Joe 5. You've never even worn a gun before. I sure ain't. I don't believe in guns. Yeah, but don't you see Cicero, this way. We're really gonna show him up. Yes, sir. I guess you're right, Marshall. I sure hope nothing bad happens. I promise you I'll do everything I can, Cicero. But in a deal like this, something can always go wrong. I. I won't try to fool you about that. You know, that's what I like about you, Marshall. You don't try to hide nothing from me. You all set, then? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I sure feel funny with this here gun on my hip. You look fine, Cicero, even if it ain't loaded. Well, let's get going. All right, Cicero, you get out in the middle of the street. Now. He's quite a fella, ain't he, Ms. Doone? Yeah, he sure is. I hope I'm right about this. I'd hate to see him get hurt. Hurt? Killed. Okay, you get up there to that alley and do his shooting for him, Chester. Then you come on back before anybody sees you. I see Dippy. Five, Joe. Five. Come on out and play, Marshall. Come on. Where are you, Five? Come on out, you fool. Come on. Get down to here. Come on. All right, that's enough shooting, Chester. Come on back, Joe. Pye's coming, Ms. Dylan. Right across the street. Yeah, all right. What's going on here? The matter with you, Cicero? There ain't nothing the matter with me, Marshal. Fy. What are you doing with that gun now? Take it off. You didn't know about me, did you? I'm a deadly gunman. You must be drunk, talking like that. It'd be better for you if I was drunk. But I ain't. I always do my gun fighting. Plum sober. You going crazy? I'll tell you something, Joe Fi. The reason I spend so much time in the saloon there is to forget all about the men I killed. But sometimes I can't forgot. And then I put my gun on and go out and I'll kill me another one. Oh, Cicero ain't making much sense, Mr. Dillon. And you're drunk. And you're lying. No. Am I? Now, you get your hand away from that gun, Cicero. I'm warning you. I can't shoot you without pulling my gun out, can I? You're not gonna shoot anybody, especially me. Sure I am. I just told you, didn't I? I gotta do it, Friar. I'm sorry, Fergie, but I gotta do it. I've had enough of this, Cicero. You get your hands up before I kill you. No. No, you don't. No, you don't. Stay with me. I never saw a Man so anxious to die. Now, you do as I say. No. No, I won't do nothing you say. You can't hurt me. You don't know it, but you can't hurt me at all. I can kill you. Go ahead, try it. One. Draw one. Go ahead. There's no man in the world can beat me, and you know it. I don't know it. I ain't never seen you shoot. Nobody has. But you're just about to see me for the last time. You take your hands off that gun. Watch me, Five. Watch me. Watch me, now. Watch me. I'm just about to draw. Watch me. I'm about to draw everybody. Go on, shoot him, Cicero. Get it over with. Okay, I will. I will. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it right now. Don't pull that gun. Don't, Cicero. Now, wait a minute. I'll make it easy for you, Ky. I'll shoot you right in the head so you won't suffer so much. Right in the nose, maybe. No. Not going. Now, look. Look. Look. Pye. Pye. Look. Now, I got you covered. Why, you didn't even try to draw. Don't you kill me. Please. Don't kill me. Not now. Don't shoot, Cicero. Don't shoot me. I wouldn't draw on you. I was only fooling. Sure, you was only fooling. But you're all through fooling. Out your fire. Please. I'll take them guns. Give it to me. Come on out, everybody. I got your 19. Hey, fellers, looky here. My gun ain't even loaded. See? You're all through, Joe. PI Go find your horse and ride him out of town. You ain't no U.S. marshal anyways. You've been lying the whole time. Now, go on, get going. You wait here, Chester. I want to talk to Five. Five. Wait a minute, Five. I'd like to talk to you a minute. Leave me alone. I only want to ask you a couple of questions, then you can go. Ask me What? About this U.S. marshal business. Was that your idea? Look, all my life I wanted to be a law man. No. Why? I don't know. Maybe so's everybody sort of look up to me. If you wanted to be a lawman, why didn't you go be one somewhere? Why did you have to come here and lie about it? You don't understand. I. I couldn't be a lawman. Not a real one. Why not? Well, you saw what happened with Cicero Grimes. I'm a coward, Mr. That's what I am. Coward. I always have been. I couldn't be a marshal. Not for long. That takes somebody. With somebody like you, maybe you could be a marshal. Maybe. But you're saying that the only reason you came here and told everybody you were the law was just a kind of a game you were playing, sort of like a kid. Like a kid. I guess you're right. I thought maybe you had some other reason for wanting to run this town. Oh, no. No, I'm. I'm not a crook, mister. I. I never did anything bad. I believe you. I want to go now. I want to get out of this place. Okay. But there's just one thing. What? You go on wearing guns and somebody's gonna kill you. Sure. I never wore a gun in my life till I came to El Kader. Always wanted to, but just never dared. It was kind of fun while it lasted. Yeah. So long, five. So long, Mr. And Doug. 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Tristan, we been here in Al Qaeda most a week and that carry post ain't showed up yet. How do you know he ain't gone back to Dakota territory? Maybe the word about Joe FY hasn't got to him yet. But I can't wait much longer. Morning, Marshall. It's Dylan. Cicero. Oh, I'm sorry. I just keep forgetting. All right. Cicero. Oh, fat as a full hog. You fellas are sure right. Everybody, even stranger's been doing nothing. Buying me drinks and listening to my story. But don't you worry, Marshall. I mean Dylan. I'm real careful about what I tell him. You're doing fine. Say, you know something else? The bartender at the Alamo has hung that old Navy pistol I used over the bar. I guess it's kind of famous already. Well, it ought to be. It made the whole town of Elkheder ashamed of itself for getting took in. So that's what the bartender says. That's why he put it up there. To make him remember, I guess. My goodness. That fella coming ashore raising a lot of dust. What's he in such a hurry for? Oh, why, that. That Marshall. Yeah, I see him. What is it, Ms. Dillon? It's Carrie Postchester. You two stay out of the way. Not me, I ain't. I'm gonna stay here and watch this. Sit right here, Cicero. What you mean, dude? Don't bother him. Hello, Post. I don't know you. You've been a long time getting back to town. What are you talking about? Joe Fy left a week ago. He had your buffalo, didn't he? Now, look here. Shut up. This may upset you some, Posts, but I'm a real marshal. What? Matt Dullen from Dodge. I've been waiting for you. No. And I'm taking you back with me, Post. Whoa. What war? I've never even seen you before. Now you want it for murder in Dakota Territory. And you know something else? I don't expect one bit of trouble out of you. Now, Marshall. Taking your gun, Post? Easy. Just like this. Sure, sure, sure, Marshall. I wouldn't make no trouble. Go on, take it. I got it. Now, you get back on your horse. We're leaving for Dodge. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Well, I declare, Mr. Stone. That was the easiest thing I ever seen. How'd you know he wouldn't fight? Well, it's nothing but a murderer, Chester. He's not a fighter. Well, you got him. And you got Joe Fye too. Him pretending to be a marshal. It sure was worth it coming up here. I don't know, Chester. Joe Fy ran this town pretty well, but now the lid's off. It's too bad. I couldn't have left him alone. He was doing fine. Hi, this is Dennis James to make a point about reliable, effective Kellogg's All Brand. Repeat after me, please. What do you want when you need brand? What do you want when you need brand? Reliability. Reliability. Now, what do you get in Kellogg's All Brand? What do you get in Kellogg's All Brand? Reliability. Right. You see, Kellogg's All Brand is the reliable brand that millions depend on for the effectiveness they want. It's the real Battle Creek formula that brings you more bran bulk in every serving. 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He implied that the Vatican was putting the Polish Catholic hierarchy in a difficult situation today, the cardinal replied. In a Sunday morning sermon, Pashinsky said boldly, I tell you Caesars that you will bow to your God and that you will serve only him and no one else. Satan is mighty, but man will not bow his head before him. In the Congo today there was a rare display of cooperation. And now that story. Congolese soldiers of the communist backed Antoine Gazinga regime today got together with UN forces for an unusual joint price project. It's a military mopping up operation against the so called Leopard Men, the cannibals who have been terrorizing whites in an arctic Kivu Province. 150 UN Malayan troops and 50 of Gazenga's Congolese soldiers organized at Kindu for a 200 mile drive against the terrorists. Meanwhile, there were reports of cautious moves toward a political rapprochement between Gazinga and President Joseph Kasavubu. Secret feelers are said to have been carried by businessmen and travelers passing unobtrusively between Leopoldville and Stanleyville. From Paris tonight, a CBS News correspondent on brief leave from the Congo takes a long and rather optimistic look at the situation there. Blaine Littell reports. This reporter has spent a good part of the day staring down at the keyboard of his typewriter and hoping to complete in 25 words or less the sentence switch begins. I think the Congo problem can be solved because the sentence remains unfinished. Perhaps it should start. I don't think the Congo problem can be solved because. But this sentence doesn't seem to lead anywhere either. And a strong compulsion develops to give up the whole exercise to forget the Congo and spend the rest of the day strolling down the streets and boulevards of this beautiful springtime city. Perhaps this would really be the best solution because we in the west, and perhaps those in the east too, seem to be in too great a hurry over the Congo. We want a solution. History is moving fast, we say, and history demands a conclusive end to this problem. Either that or we say the Congolese are incapable of solving their problems and therefore we, meaning the United nations, must solve their problems for them. In the short time since last July when the Congo became independent, the Congo tried to solve its own problems and failed. And the United nations tried to solve the Congo's problems and failed too. What this reporter would like to suggest now is that history not judged the Congo too quickly, or that if we must make a judgment, that we judge the Congo and what has happened there by Congolese standards and not our own. And by Congolese standards, things are not going so badly, not so badly at all. As a matter of fact, by Congolese standards, things are going quite well indeed. Mr. Lumumba is dead. The manner of his death shocked and convulsed the outside world. But in the Congo, his murder was accepted as normal. And his departure from the scene removed the one major roadblock to an eventual solution of the Congo's problem. Now the leaders of the Congo, or the vast majority of them, have concluded what they feel is the most successful conference they have ever conducted, the so called summit meeting in Madagascar, at which they decided to bury, along with Mr. Lumumba, his idea of a strong centralized government for the Congo and substitute a loose confederation of states, unworkable, we may say, too many governments, potential anarchy, balkanization. But to the Congolese, it is the only way. Their new government is built on the solid foundations of tribal loyalties. Each leader of any importance gets his share of the Congo, his rich and big or small and impoverished piece of geography. But it is his, and it is more than he would have received under any other plan. And there you have it, the slow beginning. We may not be happy, but the Congolese are. And what is more, they have done this themselves and now they are proud. And little by little, changes will take place. Tribalism will begin to disintegrate. And then perhaps the time will come for still another form of government. But the pace in the Congo is slow, and we must try to keep in step. Any attempt to set the pace ourselves, to quicken the step, would, in the opinion of this reporter, only lead back to confusion, chaos and death. And the Congo, in its very brief history of independence, has had enough of these. This is CBS News in Paris. Another story from Paris, the arrival of a new American ambassador, covered by CBS News Correspondent David Schombren. General James Gavin, hero of the U.S. paratroop drop at Bastogne in World War II. The youngest general in the U.S. army at the time in his mid-30s, has returned to Europe today, still young and vigorous at 50, to begin a new career and a new kind of life as ambassador to France, one of the major and most difficult diplomatic assignments in the foreign service of the United States. France is one of our oldest allies. It is the only major nation in the world that never fought a war, hot or cold, against the United States that has always been at our side in every major battle that we fought, but that nevertheless is frequently in conflict with us politically. Ambassador Gavin will have to deal with President De Gaulle, a difficult man with a view. This has been a presentation of otrwesterns.com and we hope you enjoyed. Please take some time to like and rate this episode within your favorite podcast application. 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Podcast Host: Andrew Rhynes
Episode Release: October 19, 2025
Featured Drama: Gunsmoke, "Joe Phy" (originally aired 03-19-1961)
This episode of Old Time Radio Westerns presents a restored version of the classic Gunsmoke drama "Joe Phy," inviting listeners back to the mythic world of Dodge City. U.S. Marshal Matt Dillon travels to Elkader to hunt a notorious killer—only to encounter a town living under the rule of a mysterious new marshal, Joe Phy. Throughout the suspenseful narrative, themes of reputation, courage, and deception unfold, revealing what truly keeps order in the wild frontier.
[08:25]
Matt Dillon and Chester Proudfoot arrive in the dusty town of Elkader tracking a fugitive, Carey Post.
They befriend Cicero Grimes in the local saloon, learning that the new enforcer in town, Joe Phy, has driven out all troublemakers.
Cicero claims:
“Joe Fy, he done it. Come here two weeks ago and there ain't been a fight since.”
(Cicero Grimes, [10:15])
Dillon and Chester are surprised to hear Joe Phy is supposedly a U.S. Marshal—since Dillon is the only one in the territory.
[11:20]
“He’s got them all buffaloed and he hasn't had to fight once.”
(Matt Dillon, [16:35])
[13:15]
Joe Phy confronts Dillon and Chester. He is authoritative, threatening immediate violence for any trouble.
His intimidation technique is on full display:
“You make trouble here, I'll kill both of you. Many a man has died who was a little slow believing me.”
(Joe Phy, [13:34])
Phy defuses a potential bar fight without drawing his gun, instead relying on his fearsome reputation.
[20:25]
“Supposing Joe Fy is something of a gunman after all. I ain't got no bullets in my gun.”
(Cicero Grimes, [22:00])
[26:10]
Cicero stands in the street demanding a showdown. Dillon and Chester provide staged support (with Chester firing “cover” shots).
The confrontation reveals Joe Phy’s cowardice. He crumbles when Cicero stands up to him:
“Don’t kill me. Please. Don’t kill me. Not now. Don’t shoot, Cicero. Don’t shoot me. I wouldn’t draw on you. I was only fooling.”
(Joe Phy, [28:55])
Phy abandons his guns and his claim to authority, publicly disgraced.
[30:00]
Dillon speaks privately with Phy, who admits he only pretended to be a marshal, unable to truly live up to the role:
“All my life I wanted to be a law man … But I’m a coward, mister. That’s what I am.”
(Joe Phy, [31:15])
“If you go on wearing guns, somebody’s gonna kill you.”
(Matt Dillon, [32:10])
Phy leaves Elkader, having been “unmasked.”
[35:40]
Cicero enjoys local celebrity for his stand, his unloaded pistol hung in the saloon as a symbol.
Carey Post, the true fugitive, rides into town but submits to arrest without a fight, now that Phy is gone.
“You know something else? The bartender at the Alamo has hung that old Navy pistol I used over the bar. I guess it’s kind of famous already.”
(Cicero Grimes, [36:20])
“He’s nothing but a murderer, Chester. He’s not a fighter.”
(Matt Dillon, [38:10])
Dillon reflects on order, suggesting that sometimes even a fraud like Phy can keep the peace—until real justice arrives.
"He let those other men do his work for him with us. He waited until he was sure that we knew about his reputation before he got tough."
— Matt Dillon, [16:48]
"You can't hurt me. You don't know it, but you can't hurt me at all."
— Cicero Grimes (to Joe Phy), [28:10]
"It’s too bad. I couldn’t have left him alone. He was doing fine."
— Matt Dillon, reflecting on Phy's downfall, [39:05]
The episode captures the rugged, suspenseful spirit of classic Western drama. The dialogue is richly authentic, filled with tension, dry wit, and moral ambiguity—a testament to the compelling writing of John Meston and the iconic performance of William Conrad as Matt Dillon.
"Joe Phy" showcases how law, reputation, and courage intertwine on the American frontier. Through deception and the revealing power of a simple act of bravery, the truth of Joe Phy is brought to light—a reminder that sometimes peace is held by the thinnest of threads, and real justice must eventually prevail. The story provides both an entertaining and thoughtful look at the nature of authority and the consequences of living a lie.