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H E B is piloting autonomous vehicle delivery in Austin. According to Grocery Dive. H E B has partnered with autonomous vehicle maker Avride, which is headquartered in Austin for the pilot. The bots have a delivery radius of roughly 1 mile and service customers living in the Austin Mueller district of the city. Hopefully I said that right. Mueller or Miller? I don't know. And you know, with the pilot customers, I don't know that much about Austin. Believe it or not, with the pilot customers can get 10 small items delivered by the bots between 11am to 7pm daily. The bot uses sensor sensors, lidar and cameras to navigate and has cameras that blur.
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Sensor is the combination of lidar and sensors.
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It is, yeah, we should just call that sensors. It has copyright and the cameras blur faces and license plates to ensure privacy, according to the company. Wow. Who knew that that was even a thing? The robots travel up to 5 mph and can cover 31 miles on a single charge. And on past shows, you haven't been the biggest proponent of small lot autonomous robot delivery delivery. Does the fact that H E B is now trying this change your opinion at all?
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I mean, it definitely caught my attention. It's why I thought this headline was worthy of being in the Fast 5. I mean, it's not often we hear a retailer, especially a conservative retailer when it comes to technology innovation like H E B testing autonomous vehicles. Like it's. This is like an Amazon or a Walmart story for sure. And while I don't know much about Austin, I did do a deep dive on Google Maps into the surrounding community around this particular H E B store. And this particular location for them does make sense. There's a hospital, there's a giant sports complex, there's a small residential neighborhood, there's hotels, there's retirement communities. So within a one mile radius, yes. An autonomous vehicle that can deliver 10 items or less makes complete sense. I don't know how this scales to the rest of the H E B locations because when I first read the mile radius, I was like, does that even get you out of the parking lot of H E b? Like they're so massive and they're in these like, right out, like suburban locations. So that part to me is, is still a little mystifying. But I think from HB's perspective, like, if it makes sense for you to test this out in a smaller, more urban, you know, environment around your stores, go for it. I don't think they're going to see any long term. Like, I don't think we're Going to see these rolling out of hebs everywhere.
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So you think this is like a one and done. This is a flash in the pan?
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I think so. I think so. I mean, I think it's just, it's a, it's HEB getting in the news for doing something innovative. So that's worth noting to me, which.
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HB doesn't necessarily need to do either. That's what's so interesting about this. I mean, ETB is like one of the best run grocers, if not the best in the country. But I mean, I kind of, I kind of think this is silly. I think it, I think this has just got through the media, you know, got out in the media, and it was probably just the benefit of some hard work of some individual inside H E B that got someone to approve this test. Because I just don't see it in the long run. You've got drone delivery as an option. You've got the limitations of this. Like we've talked about on the show a lot of times, one to one delivery just doesn't always make that much sense. Even with drones, it's an issue. And then you've got like the autonomous, you know, vehicles in general, you know, growing in usage both from taxis. So if we get taxis online and then we get delivery vehicles online and we figure that out, like, it seems like that's a better way to go in the long run. So this just, I, I came up the word garminized and this feels like it's going to be Garmin out at some point, you know, like the Garmin, the Garmin GPS systems, you know, like.
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It'S going to go the way, it's.
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Going to go the way of Garmin, you know, because, like, it's just something that just doesn't feel, you know, what, ultimately that valuable in the long run.
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What do you think they were thinking? Like, how does somebody approve this? Like, do you see any potential for like an H E B future of using these in real life?
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I don't know. My, my hunch is maybe that, that the, the, the Avrite came in and said, hey, we'll give you a smoking deal if you start piloting this with us.
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As we said, based company, right? Yeah.
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We need a place to test this and prove out the model. So this is the, yeah, kind of the inside baseball and potentially how some of this works, we have no idea. But I don't know. That's just my take.
Episode Title: H-E-B Tests Grocery Robots: Innovation or the Next Garmin Dash-Mounted GPS?
Release Date: June 27, 2025
In this episode of Omni Talk Retail, hosts Chris Walton and Anne Mezzenga delve into H-E-B's recent foray into autonomous grocery delivery through the use of grocery robots. The discussion centers around the viability, innovation, and potential future of such technology in the retail landscape.
The episode begins with an overview of H-E-B's latest initiative in Austin, Texas. Anne introduces the pilot program, highlighting the partnership between H-E-B and autonomous vehicle manufacturer, Avride.
Anne (00:00): "H-E-B is piloting autonomous vehicle delivery in Austin. According to Grocery Dive. H-E-B has partnered with autonomous vehicle maker Avride, which is headquartered in Austin for the pilot."
Anne elaborates on the specifics of the delivery system:
Anne (00:38): "It has sensors and cameras that blur faces and license plates to ensure privacy, according to the company."
Chris Walton brings a critical lens to the discussion, reflecting on previous skepticism regarding small lot autonomous deliveries.
Chris (01:05): "This is like an Amazon or a Walmart story for sure. And while I don't know much about Austin, I did do a deep dive on Google Maps into the surrounding community around this particular H-E-B store. And this particular location for them does make sense."
Chris points out that the selected area around the H-E-B store is strategically chosen, encompassing a hospital, sports complex, residential neighborhoods, hotels, and retirement communities—ideal for a 1-mile delivery radius. However, he questions the scalability of this model to other H-E-B locations, especially given the company's typically suburban settings.
Chris (01:05): "I don't know how this scales to the rest of the H-E-B locations because when I first read the mile radius, I was like, does that even get you out of the parking lot of H-E-B?"
Chris expresses doubt about the long-term viability of the pilot, suggesting it might remain a niche or one-off experiment.
Chris (02:29): "I think it's just, it's H-E-B getting in the news for doing something innovative... I don't think we're going to see these rolling out of H-E-Bs everywhere."
Anne shares her concerns about the practicality and necessity of autonomous delivery vehicles compared to other emerging technologies like drone delivery.
Anne (02:38): "This is silly. I think it, I think this has just got through the media, you know, got out in the media, and it was probably just the benefit of some hard work of some individual inside H-E-B that got someone to approve this test."
Anne contrasts autonomous vehicle delivery with drone delivery and large-scale autonomous taxis, arguing that smaller, one-to-one delivery methods may not be as efficient or sustainable.
Anne (03:25): "Drone delivery as an option. You've got the limitations of this... one to one delivery just doesn't always make that much sense."
Anne introduces a metaphor, likening the autonomous delivery bots to Garmin GPS systems—implying that, like Garmin, these robots may become obsolete or fail to achieve widespread adoption.
Anne (03:34): "I came up with the word 'garminized' and this feels like it's going to be Garmin out at some point."
The hosts speculate on H-E-B's motivations for initiating this pilot project, considering factors like strategic partnerships and market positioning.
Chris (03:50): "Maybe that the Avride came in and said, hey, we'll give you a smoking deal if you start piloting this with us."
They discuss the possibility that H-E-B is using this pilot to test the waters of autonomous delivery without committing to a full-scale rollout.
Anne (04:01): "We need a place to test this and prove out the model. So this is like the inside baseball and potentially how some of this works, we have no idea. But I don't know. That's just my take."
The episode wraps up with a consensus between Chris and Anne that while H-E-B's initiative is noteworthy for its innovation, its practical application and scalability remain questionable. They acknowledge the potential for such technologies to contribute to the future of retail delivery but emphasize the need for broader adoption and integration with other transportation innovations to achieve meaningful impact.
Chris (04:01): "But I don't know. That's just my take."
Anne (04:01): "That's just my take."
This episode of Omni Talk Retail provides an insightful examination of H-E-B's autonomous grocery delivery pilot, balancing enthusiasm for technological advancement with cautious skepticism about its broader implications and sustainability in the competitive retail landscape.