BENNY BLANCO, DAVE BURD & KRISTIN BATALUCCO: Friends Keep Secrets… Or Do They? (Friendship, Weddings, Love)

Summary

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Podcast Summary

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Episode: BENNY BLANCO, DAVE BURD & KRISTIN BATALUCCO: Friends Keep Secrets… Or Do They? (Friendship, Weddings, Love)
Release Date: March 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this heartfelt, hilarious, and refreshingly honest episode, Jay Shetty brings together producer Benny Blanco, rapper/comedian Dave Burd (Lil Dicky), and director Kristen Batalucco—three close friends and collaborators behind the new show “Friends Keep Secrets.” Together, they explore the dynamics of deep friendship, relationship honesty, the “art” and absurdity of working together, and what it takes to build lasting love, all while peppered with playful banter and raw vulnerability. The group dives deeply into their personal stories: friendships formed over Mexican food, finding love at the bowling alley, the perils of joint birthdays, negotiating egos, and surviving each other’s quirks—while launching a new unscripted multimedia show.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. How the Trio Met and Their Unique Bond

[02:07–08:56]

• Dave is the “glue”: Dave shares how he first connected with Benny Blanco over Twitter (Benny supported him on day one of music releases), and how their friendship would have happened regardless of their careers.
  “We would be best friends if we were like in Arkansas and we both were plumbers...” — Dave Burd [04:55]

• Meeting Kristen: Their story starts at a bowling alley (Kristen didn’t realize she was being scouted as a romantic partner). Their first conversation revolved around nachos and self-deprecating humor.
  “I said, I know. I’m just making small talk.” — Dave Burd, recalling his nacho conversation [06:48]

• Kristen’s perspective: She highlights Dave’s openness and vulnerability—even when his story was “a little long.”
  “I felt like you had such an ease to you that was rare. Like, you were really willing to be, like, vulnerable. But I also was like, the story’s very long.” — Kristen [07:47]

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2. Early Romantic Dynamics & The "Flirt Battle"

[08:56–14:39]

• Birthday party drama: Kristen and Dave relive the confusing early days of their relationship—especially a joint birthday party where both tried to play it cool but ended up in a passive-aggressive “flirt battle.”
  “At this moment, there was a flirt battle going on back and forth. It was, like, so strange and childish in the moment.” — Benny Blanco [12:07]

• Commitment anxiety: Dave admits to being slow to commit due to his own anxieties, while Kristen was direct about wanting a real relationship.
  “If us not getting married is a dead end, it’s totally possible that this is a dead end. But if you’re saying it’s a dead end, if we aren’t actually married...” — Dave Burd [14:39]

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3. Honesty in Relationships & Empowerment

[14:54–20:04]

• Kristen’s directness: She talks about why she was upfront on the second date; she didn’t want to “play games” or waste time.
  “I felt like I didn’t want to waste time, like, letting him drive the relationship. Better off that I figure out if we’re a bad fit...” — Kristen [15:14]

• Male/female dating dynamics: They confront how traditional dating scripts often favor men, and how gendered expectations can hinder honest communication.

• Changing dynamics (Benny’s view): Benny notes he finds directness in women “sexy,” inspired by his own relationship with Selena Gomez.
  “I think it’s sexy when a woman does that... it shows, like, such a confidence.” — Benny Blanco [17:02]

• Supporting each other’s success: The group affirms that their relationships win due to mutual support, absence of competitiveness, and celebrating each other’s victories.

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4. Life Events—Joint Birthdays and Back-To-Back Weddings

[21:07–32:39]

• Synchronicity: The trio muses on the odd coincidence of Dave and Benny getting married in the same month, and organizing epic joint parties.

• Wedding stories: They swap tales about their own weddings—including the emotional highlights (like Dave officiating Benny’s), the realness of vows, and the feeling of sharing life’s “best night” twice in a row. “It was the best night... so perfect. And then I just remember being so excited for his. And his was perfect.” — Dave Burd [23:41] “To see him just break, like, and become just a shell of a man, like, his face puddle...” — Dave on Benny seeing Selena walk down the aisle [29:25] “Theirs was the best wedding I’d ever been to in my life.” — Benny Blanco on Dave and Kristen’s wedding [30:39]

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5. Working Together & The Genesis of "Friends Keep Secrets"

[36:03–45:50]

• How the show started: The trio share their creative approach—Kristen’s push for authenticity and experimentation, and their desire to “reinvent” what a show/podcast could be. “I was the inner child, and he was like, now having fun with my best friends again.” — Dave Burd [37:54]

• Real human connection: They discuss the post-Covid appetite for observing true friendship, organic conversation, and unfiltered personalities. “There’s nothing more compelling than human beings being themselves and being really entertaining and fun to watch.” — Dave Burd [38:12]

• The show’s value: Jay notes how the show makes viewers feel less alone by inviting them “into the room” with a group of genuine friends, reflecting the realities of modern loneliness, especially post-pandemic.

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6. Navigating Conflict, Sensitivity, and Decision-Making

[45:50–62:27]

• Friendship friction: They joke about who starts arguments, who gets annoyed, and everyone’s tolerance for conflict. “All three of us are equally annoying to all three. It really varies.” — Dave Burd [45:11]

• Sensitivity and honesty: Kristen admits she’s the most sensitive; Benny and Dave see this as her superpower to be honest and vulnerable “on her sleeve,” drawing parallels to Selena’s openness.

• Making decisions: The group prefers talking things out to voting, but note their contrasting approaches—Kristen wants discussion, Benny likes a quick vote.

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7. Games & Playful Revelations

[59:05–74:11]

• “Friends Don’t Keep Secrets” game: Jay quizzes the trio on each other’s quirks, annoyances, and hypotheticals.

  • What Kristen would change in Dave: “That he likes wine.” — Kristen [60:09]
  • Whether Dave would help bury a body: “Disappear. Get out of here.” — Dave Burd [67:35]
  • Benny’s true peeves: “Putting things in my fridge incorrectly.” — Benny Blanco [69:01]
  • Who would survive a zombie apocalypse: unanimous vote for Benny [77:18]
  • Who would accidentally start a cult: mostly Kristen, with a shoutout to Jay for his “soothing” voice [80:27]
  • Who’s worst at texting: Kristen by a mile [78:40]

• On their dynamic: Even in games, the group reveals genuine affection and deep knowledge of each other’s foibles and strengths.

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8. Deep Dives: Mixing Work & Love, Vulnerability, and Lasting Impact

[82:34–94:38]

• Balancing work and relationships: Kristen and Dave talk openly about how they distinguish between professional disagreements and their personal bond; they credit their communication style with helping them never “hold onto” arguments. “We can like, have arguments and… then, like, instantly… it’s never carried over.” — Kristen [82:57] “Nothing makes me happier than getting to work so hard and hang out with my best friend and wife while doing it.” — Dave [45:47]

• Kristen’s self-doubt & growth: Kristen is candid about her self-criticism and the challenges of going public, while her friends affirm her honesty and inspire her growing confidence.

• Death hypothetical: Dave’s tongue-in-cheek question—“If I died, how often would you guys hang out?”—sparks a playful but heartfelt affirmation that their trio's bond is deeper than a single connection.

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9. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I want to chase the person I marry… I really know that I want this.” — Kristen [19:25]

• “There’s nothing more compelling than human beings being themselves and being really entertaining.” — Dave Burd [38:12]

• “It’s so cool to put something good into the earth… without taking yourself so seriously.” — Benny [42:58]

• “I feel like this show makes people feel less alone.” — Jay Shetty [40:24]

• “You wear your insecurities on your sleeve in a cool way. And I like it.” — Benny Blanco (to Kristen) [49:58]

• “No argument or moment could ever be the type of thing that we couldn’t logically talk about and arrive at the facts at hand. So ultimately, I have no fear.” — Dave Burd [45:21]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:07–08:56] — How they all met & friendship origin stories
• [08:56–14:39] — Early romance, commitment anxieties, and “flirt battles”
• [14:54–20:04] — Honest relationship talk, games, and confidence
• [21:07–32:39] — Weddings, birthdays, and emotional moments
• [36:03–45:50] — Launching the show, creative process, and authenticity
• [45:50–62:27] — Conflict, communication, and sensitivity contrasts
• [59:05–74:11] — Game segment: quirks, hypotheticals, and group dynamics
• [82:34–94:38] — Deep questions about boundaries, death hypothetical, and self-doubt

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Tone & Style

• The episode is playful, vulnerable, and deeply affectionate, blending earnest insights about friendship and love with rapid-fire banter and irreverent humor.
• Speakers are honest about their flaws and past mistakes, modeling non-toxic communication and accountability.
• There’s constant teasing but also steadfast support, with quick detours into emotional honesty and even self-help wisdom.

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Takeaways

• Radical honesty—both in love and friendship—can be awkward but builds true intimacy and trust.
• It’s healthy (and powerful) for women to ask for what they want—and for men to embrace that directness.
• Working with those you love can be both a challenge and an immense privilege, especially if you maintain open dialogue and boundaries.
• Vulnerability (on and off camera) is a gift, and real friendships thrive on being seen and supported in all your weirdness.
• “Friends Keep Secrets” captures the magic (and chaos) of close-knit relationships—reminding listeners they’re not alone in their mess or joy.

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Listen for:

• Stories about nachos, mishaps, and 40-minute car rides
• Birthday party disasters turned relationship milestones
• Candid wedding memories (including Benny’s emotional unraveling)
• Game show-style group therapy on personality quirks
• Honest talk about therapy, self-doubt, and creative ambition

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Transcript

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

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[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Friends On Purpose. On Three. One, two, three. Friends on Purpose.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I thought you thought that was being loserish.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I do.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, right.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

We just are born to be best. Me and Benny met at this Mexican

[Benny Blanco]

restaurant and he said, what can you bring to the table? And I was like, what?

[Kristen]

I thought, he's so sweet and he's so himself. And he told me a story that lasted 40 minutes.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Benny, Dave, Kristen, welcome to On Purpose.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Hey, Jay.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Hi, Benny. Come on, come on. Hey, do you know what? This is the first time we've had three people on the show together. First ever time did you know that this is the first time someone has come on their own with their fiance, then wife, and now with their best friends?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So we've never done that before either.

[Benny Blanco]

You're breaking all sorts of.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You're breaking all sorts of records. You're competing with Michelle Obama, who's been on the show twice. You've been on three times. This is your third time. So, Dave, I'm a huge fan.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Thank you.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Always have been. I told you that the first time I met you.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I, I, I've known you for maybe under a year, but I love you.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Oh, thank you, Emma.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's been ever since I've met you, I've loved you.

[Benny Blanco]

Wow.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I appreciate.

[Benny Blanco]

Notice how he doesn't say it back.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I know he loves me, but I said it already. He just said. Yeah. He didn't say he did.

[Benny Blanco]

I was caught up in his eyes. It's very hard, very hard to look.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And, Kristen, I've become a huge fan of you. I can't believe that.

[Kristen]

I'm glad we're here. I'm glad that you still like me.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

But honestly, the guys, this is awesome. It's so great to have all three of you in the room. I actually want to know how you all three met, because I have no idea. I don't think I've ever asked you that before.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Well, I guess I'm the glue between the two of the three. You know, I met Benny. He basically, from the day I put any music out, he actually, the first day I released anything, he tweeted, like, something positive about me.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah. So he, like, it was, you know, one of the first day to have a guy like him reach out. And then I, yeah, I, like, said something. We like, kind of communicated back and forth a little bit. And then we almost saw each other. One of my concerts, we didn't really hang out. And then I don't. The first time we met.

[Benny Blanco]

No, we don't know.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

We don't know for sure when. The very first. We can't place it. My memory of, like, the first real memory I have is we met at this Mexican restaurant, and I think he was maybe trying to sign me or maybe just trying to explain the value that he could add to my life and my career. And I really didn't see any value added potential.

[Benny Blanco]

That's what he said.

[Kristen]

It was like a date.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Did he say that?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, he said. He said, well, what. What can you bring to the table? And I was like, what? That was like his first thing he

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

said to me now in Hindsight. I was totally wrong.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

What can I bring to the table?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Brings everything.

[Benny Blanco]

Best friend, all of your nightlife, Everything.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

How did he bring him over? How did you win him over?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Just proof in the pudding.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. I think it was instant.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Also, independent of our respective talents merging and being able to add to each other's talent careers, we would be best friends if we were like in Arkansas and we both were plumbers. You know what I mean? Like, we just are born to be best friends. And then I met Kristen. Yeah. Years later. And then they met because.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Wait, wait, wait. I want to know how you guys met. Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Don't just.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I wasn't.

[Kristen]

You tell. You tell the story.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I met Kristen years later. Bowling alley. A writer on my TV show Vanessa kind of set us up. And Kristin didn't know that I was going to more or less scout me. Scout her.

[Kristen]

I was being scouted as a romantic.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Not for the show.

[Kristen]

No, as a romantic partner.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I always told Vanessa because I love this woman, Vanessa, who's one of the main writers on my show and she's a great person. And I always said, keep it. Cause I was just a hopeless romantic single guy for like a decade. And I would say, don't you have any friends? Don't you know anybody? And then she would say, yeah, I'm looking around. And then Kristen had been in a relationship for pretty much her whole life. And then she kind of got single for like a three week period. And then Vanessa was bowling with her and she realized, oh, my God, Dave. And then she texted me while she was at the alley being like, hey, I don't know what you're doing. It was like 10pm and she was like, I don't know what you're doing, but I'm with someone who might be your wife. And I dropped everything I was doing and immediately, immediately went over there late, joined them late. They were already done bowling by the time I got there, so I got to take everyone's turn. And then we just started talking about nachos.

[Benny Blanco]

Didn't you bowl a strike?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I bowled a strike. First thing I did, I bowled a strike. Like that was my first.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

How did you pull that out?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I just am a good athlete.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Oh, you didn't see it? I didn't see it.

[Kristen]

So I think I was doing my own thing. Chatting up the group.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah, she was doing her own thing. Then we started talking about. I remember one of the first things I said to her were like, what are those? And I pointed to a plate of nachos and she said, Those are nachos. And I said, I know. I'm just making small talk.

[Kristen]

I liked that. I thought that was such a good, like, intro.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

And that was his first intro.

[Kristen]

Like, it was. Yeah. I mean, he sat down next to me and said, what are those? And I liked that. He was like, I'm just making small talk. I feel like it was like the intro into his personality.

[Benny Blanco]

And you were trying. That was.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Oh, yeah. Instantly I saw her and I was like, oh, my God, Vanessa, good call.

[Kristen]

Well, no, you said you didn't like it. Cause I was wearing glasses.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I said it wasn't love at first sight.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I was gonna ask was it an instant connection for both.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Cause she was wearing these big glasses so I couldn't see her face. Yeah, she doesn't often wear glasses.

[Kristen]

I was going through a lot and I was wearing the same clothes for like two weeks straight. And this was my first venture out.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Not shades, like.

[Kristen]

No, they were like. Because it was. I think I drove there. Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I drove home. Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Cause you drove me home.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Because she was. She never lives in Venice or lived in Venice, and I was living in Venice, and she happened to be staying in Airbnb for that week in Venice. So it only made sense for her to be like, can I get a ride home? So then I had like an extra 40 minute ride where we just talked.

[Kristen]

So he told me a story that lasted 40 minutes.

[Benny Blanco]

Really? What was the story?

[Kristen]

I thought, he's so sweet and he's so himself. And I was like, I was really happy to. I felt like you had such an ease to you that was rare. Like, you were really willing to be, like, vulnerable. But I also was like, the story's very long.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

The story was about me pooping my pants.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And you chose that.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's my funniest, best story.

[Kristen]

But it was like him talking the entire.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

He practiced it before.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's like a 15 minute story rehearsed. And I was like, yeah, I've said it so many times. And then ironically, I believe that you guys probably met for the first time at a bowling alley because. Right. Remember, right before. Remember for my TV show premiere season one, I had all my friends come in from out of town and we all met at the bowling alley the one time and Kristen was there and I was like, don't make it that, like, don't say anything that I don't want you to say. Remember that

[Benny Blanco]

maybe. I remember two. I remember two times specifically. I remember once, like, in the very beginning of their relationship, I remember once after your actual premiere. And we, like, all walked up to my house. I remember that time. And I remember, like, in. In that time being like, this girl's really cool. I was like. Like, nothing. Not thinking.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

That was your first impression. When he's like, meet my girlfriend.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no, no. It was not his girlfriend. It was a girl. He wasn't. No, no.

[Kristen]

In my mind, I was his girlfriend.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

In your mind, it was official.

[Benny Blanco]

And then now you'll find.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Is this the first time you find out about it?

[Benny Blanco]

And then the turning point, really, in their relationship, I think, was that night at, like, our birthday party. That was, like. That was. I remember it so clearly. I do. I do.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Is that what it was for you, Kristin? You remember it differently?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's a bad memory.

[Kristen]

It was. It was a. It wasn't the best. You weren't the. You weren't, like, exhibiting the best behavior?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No, I was lashing out. Do you want to hear what happened, Jay, please.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I do want to hear what happened. Thank you.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

We met in, like, January 31st. We had our birthday party, like, six weeks later. We have joint birthday parties every year. And look, what I'm about to say is pathetic, but they really were, like, the super bowl of, like, being a single man. Like, I never would even have a birthday. I never would even throw myself a birthday party if it weren't for Benny. So now, all of a sudden, every year, I'm having, like, the most upscale birthday parties planned by him completely, where all these people and women, lots of women, and they know it's, like, my party. And, like, so there's just this building icebreaker where, like, people want to come up to me and talk to me. And I just had this feeling that we were going to start dating. And, you know, if you know me, you know that I have trouble, like, wrapping my head around not necessarily commitment, but just, like, I'm a turnover. Every Stone kind of guy in everything I do. And it really.

[Kristen]

Stone was here. There was nothing else to turn over.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Now, as I continue to tell the story, I want you to know that I'm ashamed. This is not something that I'm proud of, but I think I just knew that we were going to end up dating, but it was too early to be, like, I didn't have to commit yet, to be quite honest, which is a really misogynistic thing to say. And I knew that I didn't have to commit, and I also knew my days were numbered of having romantic freedom because I felt like I was about to be totally in a Committed relationship. And I think. I don't know, I just kind of, like, overreacted. And for whatever reason, I went into the night being like, I'm not committed to Kristen tonight. I'm not necessarily going home with Kristen tonight. I'm gonna do my own thing.

[Kristen]

But can I. Because. Because I didn't do. You're making it seem like I went in there being like, we have to be. We're married.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No, she didn't do anything.

[Benny Blanco]

I'd like to hear. Kristin, I. Yeah, please.

[Kristen]

I went in there with, like. I think there was, like, seven of girlfriends of mine, and I played it. So, like, I don't like to play it cool. It's very hard for me to play it cool. I'm glad that Benny thought I was cool when he first met me, but that's not me. And so I was like, okay, well, this is fun. I like a party. I'm just gonna be, like, free and not expect anything from him. So I didn't all night. And then as the night came to an end, it was kind of like, well, we all know the expectation that we're gonna, like, hang out if we haven't hung out yet. And he just had such a. Like, you had such a. I knew exactly what he was doing. Like, I could sense what he was doing. And then I think I was like, well, this is lame. And then it got into a little bit of a. Like, I would say at the end, a flirt battle.

[Benny Blanco]

I'd like to interject. I'd like to. I'd like to interject.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

She started talking to other guys.

[Kristen]

He was talking to other girls.

[Benny Blanco]

I'd like to interject. At this moment, there was a flirt battle going on back and forth. And it was, like, so strange. It was like. Yeah, it was, like, so strange and. And childish in the moment.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Like a scene of a movie.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

And we were in such a small area because now it was, like, the after party. It was like, such a. Like, it is, like 50 people total. And I remember going to the bathroom. There was, like, a communal bathroom you go into. And I was, like, with Dave, and we were drunk, and. And he was just like, what'd he say? He was talking about how this was, like, one of the best nights of his life. And he was like, no, this is

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

the first time you're hearing this story.

[Kristen]

Well, sometimes I forget the details. And then it was. It was a sad time, basically, but not really. He wasn't that sad.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It wasn't heavy in the moment.

[Benny Blanco]

She was talking about, like, leaving and like, before we went into the bathroom and she was, like, visibly upset at this.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

She was about to leave. She might have even have just. Just walked out.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, she did.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And I was like, okay.

[Benny Blanco]

There was like, maybe you didn't run after. I don't remember. I don't remember if there was tears or anything.

[Kristen]

There were tears and no one saw them. So that's the tidbit that I'm providing.

[Benny Blanco]

So she walks out, and I remember talking to Dave, and I was like, Dave, I was like, what are you doing? I was like, she's so cool. She's beautiful. And I was.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And.

[Benny Blanco]

And yeah, it was like his sentiment was kind of like the. What he was saying where he's like, what if there's more? Like, I'm so. Like. He was like, I'm about.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

This is all.

[Kristen]

What if there's more.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, that was.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Everything he just said was the sub. But really all you said, I remember specifically, you were like, I don't know. You were like, I kind of like badaluca.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, that's.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Well.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And that's all he had.

[Benny Blanco]

And then.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And then Kristen's last name.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. And then at the end, I was like. I was like, I don't. I was like. I was like, I don't know. Check. Like, I really. I like Bada Luca. And then.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And then I called her.

[Benny Blanco]

And then he called her.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And One foot in the car.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. And then it was like out of a move.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And then. We never split up first.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

What was it for you that when this is it, no more stones to be turned over.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Like, I'm not the kind of guy that did what I said. I just did at the thing. So I just felt a little bit bad about. I'm just not that guy. And I don't. It's like, what am I looking for someone else when I have such a great person who wants to hang out with me now? At that point, I don't think either one of us necessarily knew we were going to get married. I don't think you knew we were going to get married six weeks in, remember?

[Kristen]

I think the first thing I said, like, on our second date, I was like, is this a dead end?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Well, yeah.

[Kristen]

So I was. I was angling for marriage.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

So our second date, she said, is this. She said, is this a dead end? This is second date. If us not getting married is a dead end, it's totally possible that this is a dead end. But if you're saying it's a dead end, if we aren't actually Married.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I can't answer that question because it's a second date.

[Benny Blanco]

Exactly.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

But, Kristen, from your side, like, you're angling for marriage on the second date. Like, you're really clear about what you want. A, what's making it clear that this is the guy you want to be with, and B, what's making you confident to be so clear about what you want? Because I think so many people who listen to the show, I know they actually feel quite scared on their second date to actually be honest about what they're looking for.

[Kristen]

Well, I went into it being like I was 30 and I'd come out of a long relationship and I felt like. Like I had this whole narrative in my head, which I think the narrative is true, that it's like, why should women have to kind of play like this game of let them chase you? Or, like, I feel like that so often, even with my friends. Like, even with dav, like, don't be too aggressive. Like, don't. Because I very much always just said what I wanted, which was like, I liked hanging out with you. Let's hang out again. And I felt like I didn't want to waste time, like, letting him drive the relationship. So I just thought it's better off that I figure out if we're a bad fit than, like, let it go too long. Also, I'm only getting older, and it

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

is remarkable how infrequent. I went on a lot of dates. I dated a lot of people over a 10 year. Not really any seriously, but I went on a lot of dates and it's very rare that I was held accountable. And, like, you know where I feel like oftentimes there are games that are played that. That are totally predisposed to advantage the man. And I was very much down to lean into that because it advantaged me.

[Kristen]

I was ready to debate. Like, I was. I was like, waiting for him to.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You're up for the challenge.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Like, here are all the reasons why. Like, why I'm not ready or whatever. And then I kind of always came into the situation. Like, we were always able to talk about it. Like, you would be overwhelmed with, like, your work. And you thought that. Because if you're dating somebody, that means that you can't work and have, like, a career.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

So I was always up for the debate.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Do you want to chime in, Benny?

[Benny Blanco]

I just think. I think. No, I was thinking about it because it's like, I think we're actually in a time where, like, I think it's sexy when a Woman does that. Like, when. Like, when Selena was doing that to me, like, she was just like her, like, very much.

[Kristen]

We would talk about it. Yeah, we would. I'd be like, you have go for these. You have to go after them.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. And. And it made me, like. It made me be like, whoa. Like, it was like, cool. It's, like, cool. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah. I want, like. Because, you know, Dave is saying, like, you know. You know, sometimes when you're dating someone, they might not want to say something to rock the boat. And like, I love when Selena would turn over. It'd be 3 in the morning, and we were dating for, like, three weeks. And she'd be like, well, what are we? And I was like, what? And then she was like, well, when I go to New York this weekend, what am I going to tell people? We are. And I was like, it. Like, she, like, caught me so off guard. It's cool to have that dynamic where, like, both person. Both people are, like, on that same level. And I think I do see it. Like, I feel like I do because a lot of my friends are like that. Where I see women starting to do that a lot more now. And I think it's. I think it's cool. Like, I think it shows, like, such a confidence. Like, you know, some people look at it like. Some of my friends look at it like, oh, like, that's so needy. Or that's so.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I'm like.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, that's a person telling you exactly what they want. Like, I don't want to play these games. Like, and when you're.

[Kristen]

And it's okay to be needy. Like, I think it's okay to exist exactly how you are. And if you.

[Benny Blanco]

Selena, will say that in the morning. She'll say, like. She'll be like, today's a needy day.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

And she'll be. And. And it. What. When you are with someone who can. Because it's so hard when you're trying to play a guessing game. Like, when you're trying to talk with your partner who doesn't express themselves, it's so difficult to meet them in the right place. And then they're, like, harboring all this resentment. But yeah, like, Selena will wake up in the morning and she'll, okay, today's like, a needy day. I need you to be, like, extra nice to me, extra gentle. And then you are set up for

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

success because you know what to do.

[Kristen]

I should say on behalf of Dave, like, I did trust my instincts, which was that I could tell that Dave, like, I knew who he was as a person, and I knew it was just his anxieties that were kind of like, overriding this entire situation. It wasn't like I was like, totally shooting in the dark.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Totally. When I look back on it, like, it is crazy to me that now that I know her and everything that I wasn't after the first day, week, whatever, being like, oh, my God, that's the person I'm gonna like. To me, it's so obvious, like, that she is my soulmate.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

But it was so.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And the only reason I wasn't. But truly the only reason I didn't see it was because of my own anxieties. Wouldn't even allow me to see it. Cause as soon as we started spending more time together, I was like, she's the funniest, most beautiful, perfect. I couldn't even believe that I was. It was a debate.

[Kristen]

And what I said to myself, I said, I always. I feel like I was in a lot of relationships where I didn't always feel like I was the one that, like, chased or I had, like, all of the agency and I would. After my last relationship before Dave, I was like, I want to chase the person I marry, and I want to be the one that's like, choosing. Because so often you kind of. I don't know, I felt like so. So many of my past relationships were more like, you know, like, you're.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I don't know, you're being pursued.

[Kristen]

Yeah. Or something. Or like, it's just easier to stay whatever than go. So with Dave, well, before Dave, I was like, I want to, like, chase my husband. Like, I want to be like, I really know that I want this. Not like, this is easy, but I

[Benny Blanco]

feel like it set them up for such success because when I look at them, there couldn't be more even in a relate. And like, I feel like that's when a relationship wins. Like, no person has the upper hand in their relationship. There's no, like, bat. Like, there's like, funny, like, banter back and forth. And I love that. But it's like they truly, like watching both of them, they truly want each other to win. And. And then that's when I feel like that's when the relationship works. I've been in relationships where the person is secretly, like, competitive. Yeah, they're, like, competitive. Or I've been in relationships where something good happens to me and I'm keeping it from the person because I'm scared. There are, like, I. I had a time where, like, I, like, won some big Award. And I went into a closet to answer the call and be excited because I was too scared. Yeah. And like, that's like the worst type of relationship to be in. Like, I want to be in a relationship where, like, my partner is like, cares more about, like, they. They like feel like they care more about you than their own thing. And you feel that way too. And you guys are just like the ultimate cheerleader for each other.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. Well, you guys. I mean, what's amazing though is that you guys are living the dream because you guys are best friends and then your wife and your best friend are really great friends.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And that's so special. And the fact that you guys used to do your birthdays together. The fact that you also got married in the same year.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah. Same month.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Same month.

[Benny Blanco]

And she's so close to Selena too.

[Kristen]

It's like, it's been. It's perfect.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm so happy it work. Like, you know when. You know when one of your friends dates someone that you're like, oh. And like. And you never know.

[Bowen Yang]

It's crazy.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Would you have done. What would you have done?

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my God. I've been that guy. I've dated someone where My friend. I've dated multiple people. Where. I mean, one time I. I broke up with a person I was with and my friends wanted to throw me a party, like. And I said. I said, well, why didn't anyone tell me when I was in it? And they said, well, what are we supposed to tell you? They said, we made. We made gestures and. Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Dave, have you ever made gestures to Benny in that way?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No, I wouldn't.

[Benny Blanco]

He has slightly in his own way. Not as blunt as somebody.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I. Keep it real. If anyone's beh. I don't care who you are, if anyone's behaving. I just like to speak about the facts at hand. So I always.

[Benny Blanco]

He's a fact based.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I'm a helping hand with anyone who wants to analyze the facts at hand. But you know, love is a particular thing that sometimes transcends fact, so. Pretty good, right?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

That's beautiful. Yeah, that's like. That's like you've like found something that you. I was like, wow, that is beautiful. I get what you're saying. It's like when you. When you know someone, you have a friend and they're like really into this person.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You're kind of like, well, maybe there's a part of that I don't want to mess up because they see something I don't. Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's just not your place necessarily to be like, you know, you. I know you love this person, but just so you know.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

You shouldn't. Yeah. I don't know.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

What was it like, though, going from those parties to actually getting married a month apart? Like, to be at each other's way.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

High level partying. High level parties?

[Kristen]

No. Stressful. We were so tired. I feel like we were all really tired. I was really tired.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I liked it. I mean, I really enjoyed it. To me, I was like, our wedding was the best night of our lives, and it was so great. And I just remember being so happy that I had his wedding. I was like, and the fun isn't done. And I remember telling. I said to her, I said, we should really try to have as much fun as possible, because nights don't always have this upside potential of how fun a night can be the way. And, like, we just had the most, like, very rarely do you go into a night where it has the potential to be the most fun night of your life. And our wedding, of course, had that potential. It felt so good when it actually was like, you know, I would have called a fact a fact if it was in any way shorter than I would have wanted, especially because we're paying all this goddamn money. But it really.

[Kristen]

Yeah, it was the best night.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It was so perfect. And then I just remember being so excited for his. And his was perfect, and.

[Kristen]

And we had the bachelor in between.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Oh, God, no.

[Kristen]

We had, like. We had.

[Benny Blanco]

It was like.

[Kristen]

We kept saying that we're, like, kicking off like, it was our wedding. And then we had. In between our wedding and their wedding, we each separately went on, like, you know, I went to, like, Selena's and Dave went to Benny's, and then we had. Then we had the wedding. So it was, like, a fun two months.

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[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Kristin, what was your favorite thing about Benny and Selena's wedding?

[Kristen]

Probably the vows. It's so like watching your close friends get married and like hearing that. What?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Remembering how his face moved when he would cry.

[Kristen]

I mean I couldn't see anything cause I was behind a pole, but I heard the vows.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You didn't get like profound seeing or anything?

[Kristen]

I did get the front row seat but I didn't know if people were gonna sit between me and Benny's family so I like sat all the way to the side.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

She just had. She had she had an architectural issue blocking her.

[Kristen]

But that was the best part.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Tell us about the vows.

[Kristen]

Their vows were so good. And I think, well, and Dave officiated, which I also obviously enjoyed. I just loved hearing. It's like, it was nice to kind of hear them be serious. Like, you're not. It's so rare that you're gonna, like, hear your friends, you know, say their love is, like, what they're doing in your vows, you know, especially.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Okay. So my perspective, by the way, I couldn't have a better view. Like, they're like. I'm, like, right there, and they're right here.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And so.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Because you're officiant. Yeah. Yeah. So have you done one before?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No. Wow. I've actually never even given a best man speech, so, like, the whole thing. And then it's also such a tricky because, like, on the. I'm almost giving best man speech, but it's also right there at the altar, so you can't even pressure those things. There was a lot of pressure, but I really felt born for that moment. And it was really. Look, Selena, like, when the curtain went away and it was her and she started. She, like, literally, I. I'm loath to say that she looked like a princess, but she just looked like fairy tale. Like, the sun.

[Kristen]

It was, like, the most amazing. The sun, like, was setting. Setting behind her, and they had, like, these beautiful tents. So when she. This is. I did see a little bit of. When she was, like, walking. It was, like. It was, like, majestic.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah. And, like, you know, she pulls out this, like, I don't even. This handwritten. This book of scriptures or that is, like, her vows that were, like, written by hand that she, like, lost five days earlier that Benny had. She, like, wrote her vows for, like, a year, and then she lost them, like, right before the wedding. And then Benny found, like, pulled it double point.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Yeah, you found it on the day.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And she told it a few days before.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

But, like, her vows are just, like, you know, and. And then Benny, like, you know, obviously, Benny has a high level of emotional capacity and sensitivity, but he's definitely a joker. And to see him just break, like, and become just a shell of a man, like, his face puddle. Like, I've never. Like, when Selena, when the curtain got revealed and she. His face was like.

[Benny Blanco]

Cause I was trying not to. Okay.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

So when we did the first look, I was like, oh, oh, this is easy. I'm not even crying. But when she came out to the music, my face, I was like, I'm not Ready to cry this early. So I was like. I was like, I can't even do it. I was like, I recently watched the video back, and it's insane.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's weird to see someone's face so often and then realize you've never seen their face. Do a certain thing is a weird feeling to feel.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

That's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm never nervous. And I was before it happened. I all of a sudden got so nervous and like, 10 times I was like, should I have him print mine out bigger? Should I do it small? And like, I asked him all these questions.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And then he made me walk out to, like, everyone's seated, thinking, the thing's about to start. And he made me walk out alone, like, down the aisle, essentially, and like, double check. And he had multiple printouts of the thing already sitting up there.

[Benny Blanco]

I remember being so nervous. And then for some reason, the second I turned into the room, everything melted away. And it was like, I wasn't nervous at all anymore. And it was. It was so cool to see. Theirs was, like, training.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I was gonna.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, theirs was like, training. And theirs was. I. I really can't stress this. It was the best wedding I'd ever been to in my life. I think also it's because it's like, the people, like, I care, but I've never, like, I cried so much at their wedding. During their vows, I was bawling. And you think about your friends, but then, like, to see them do this thing that's so, like, final. It was so beautiful. And they're both so well spoken and funny, but also serious and like. Yeah, I don't usually see Dave serious. I never see Kristen serious. Like, we're all those people who kind of like, make like, I'll probably be laughing at, like, my friend's funeral. Like. Cause I, like, can't. Like, it's. It's like a coping mechanism. And to watch them do that was so fun. And everything was perfect. And their wedding was one of the best weekends of my life. And then I was like, oh, my God, I have my own to look forward to. And I had that feeling where I was so scared that mine wasn't gonna live up to what it was in my head. And it was so far beyond. What, like, the only thing I didn't like is cocktail hour because I kept having to say hi to everyone. I said, am I gonna be doing this the whole night?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I tried to get you to do the thing. You didn't want to do it?

[Kristen]

No, we did do It.

[Benny Blanco]

They did do it and Selena didn't like it.

[Kristen]

We took. We should have. We basically went. Dave and I like had to go to the bathroom. So we. Before Benny and Selena had seen it first.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It was our wedding was why we even knew about this.

[Kristen]

Did you do this like where they. They take you into the reception before the. The guests come.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

They pluck you from cocktail hour, five minutes early, take you to where the band is and where dinner is and they like let you see it all and the band's playing just for you. And it was like our favorite part of our wedding.

[Kristen]

And then we had to go to the bathroom. So we went into Benny and Selena's before they had seen it. And we were like, oh my God, this is incredible. They have to see it. So we were like, should we pull them away? And pulling them away was like.

[Benny Blanco]

It was so hard.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It was so hard. Like I thought, you know what? I felt like they were being bombarded. They were. And I was just like, they're missing. They're only gonna. The tenting that they're thing was the most beautiful tent.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Oh, and you never go to.

[Kristen]

They're not.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Just not empty. But they. But I. But I made them do it.

[Kristen]

Dragged them. I was just like.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I just had this instinct that I knew better and. And that they didn't know.

[Benny Blanco]

What was your wedding like?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Gosh. I think.

[Benny Blanco]

Do I remember this correctly? Was yours like some sort of thing, like outside, near like a bri. Like.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No, no, no. That was just our photo shoot. That was just our photo shoot. Afterwards. This year is our ten year wedding anniversary.

[Kristen]

Say when you get married.

[Bowen Yang]

Ten years.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, ten years.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, actually, I don't care about your wedding. I want to know. I want to know this.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

This.

[Benny Blanco]

This is my real question. My real.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

This is not your podcast.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I have a question for you. I have a question.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I have many more. Go on.

[Benny Blanco]

I got one question.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I'll let you ask one question.

[Benny Blanco]

I have one question.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You have one question.

[Kristen]

He's got to think of the question.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no, no, no, no. It's such a good question. I just want to word it the right way. Okay. You're 10 years in.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Juny by J.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And my wife.

[Benny Blanco]

You're 10 years in. What have you learned in this time that you. That you thought you knew when it was 10 years before? And what do you want like the next 10 years to be like?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah, two questions.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Good questions, good question.

[Benny Blanco]

Only answer one.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

It's similar to the way you're even talking about each other. I feel like, you think you love your partner the most, you could love them on your wedding day, and then you realize you had no idea how much you could love them. Like, 10 years on, it's just like. Like, I thought I loved my wife, like, the most I could ever love her. And then you actually go through life. You go through challenges, you go through ups and downs.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

We.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

We got married, changed jobs, moved country, and moved home all in the same year.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Wow.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And so, like, we went through so much, and I feel like that could either break you or make you closer. And for us, it just brought us closer than the pandemic. We were stuck together every day, and it brought us closer. And I think that could have been a. So I feel like when you've been through so much life together, you just have so much proof that you love each other through so many different versions of each other. And I think that's the other thing that I feel like I've been in love with a different person in 10 years because my wife has been so many different versions of herself. She'll probably say I've been pretty much the same, but I feel like she has changed so many times in beautiful ways. And so you're learning to fall in love again. So this idea of, oh, I know your every move, and I know everything about you, it's like, I actually don't. And I feel like I'm constantly on my toes. And because we end up spending a bit of time away from each other every year because of work, I feel like we're still dating, which is really fun, actually. I love the fact that we don't see each other all the time. That's important. Then there's a sense of, like, I can't wait to get back to you. So we see each other too much now.

[Kristen]

All day, every day.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Not too much for me, Jay.

[Kristen]

Never too much for me.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. I was like, I was trying to convince my wife to do a reality show with me, because I was like, I just want to be with you all day long. That would be my dream. She's like, we're never doing a reality TV show. I'm like, all right, then.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Thank you. I don't know who else would, because there wouldn't be much drama. A lot of people, we'd have to create some drama. Like, you'd have to find ways. I'd have to invite drama.

[Kristen]

We can give you some ideas.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, but did you guys ever think, like, we're here to talk about Friends keep secrets? The show, not a podcast. Not a live stream. Did you ever believe that you guys would be doing a show together?

[Kristen]

I think it makes sense.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Ever? Yes. Because we. I don't think we saw. I didn't necessarily see it coming, but it really kind of was this perfect storm of things happening at the right time. And, like, Kristen was very. She was always. Even as I was making Dave in my. Just always on TikTok and always being like, there's something that's so rewarding about real human behavior. And she was always kind of on the forefront of knowing that consumption patterns are really changing. And that was something that. I really respect her opinion about a lot of things. And that was something that was in my head. And separately, me and Benny had kind of just flirted with the idea of a podcast for years, but I never really saw it as a thing that I wanted to do.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

What changed?

[Kristen]

I think one day I was like, but what if we rigged our house? And what if you take the same creativity that the two of you have and you try to change what this is versus trying to, like, fit the mold of what everything else is? And I feel like that's when you were. And I think Benny, like, separately had the same idea. Cause we all got on the phone and he was like, yeah, we can literally, like, he was like, I was. So I. I just think it was a perfect storm for you to be like, oh, this is exciting.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Once I started thinking about the potential to reinvent things and make things different, then I got really excited about it. And then only when we started doing it did I. Did I really, like, fall in love with everything? Because I say this to them all the time.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

My.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Me even going for it as a comedic presence only happened because I was trying to entertain my friends and be, like, the funny guy to my friends. And that is my. When I am the happiest, when I'm around my best friends and I'm, like, seeking the joke and trying to make them laugh. And then I went for it. I tried. You know, I became a comedian, made my show Dave. And, like, a show like Dave requires so much, like, hard work.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I believe it. It's a great show.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And, like, everything that seems like it's all so fun and light and, like, the amount of brain power that goes into executing it is so next level that actually making the show Dave can be torturous. Whereas as soon as we started doing this, I've never had more. It's just like, I was the inner child, and he was like, now having fun with my best friends again. And Then even seeing the footage of it and understanding how it all was working. To me, I think back to Kristen's original thesis. There's nothing more compelling. I think Covid actually caused this because the shows stopped being made and people were just at home. And then TikTok was blowing up, and we were just seeing over and over again human beings being themselves and being really entertaining and fun to watch. And so I think at the end of the day, things are only as good as the characters that are there, and we're just being ourselves. And there really is nothing pure than, like, having a great time with your best friends. And it's all. Everything that's happening is so real and organic and like, they're like, the amount of hard laughs that are happening with all three of us as we're filming it is. I've been talking for a long time.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm realizing a lot of it was resonating.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I realized how long it was resonant.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No, I, like, I allow for that space on the show.

[Benny Blanco]

He allows.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Okay.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I still remember the first call when you called me up. I was like, I do too. I think me and, you know, me and Dave and Kristen want to start this show. And in my head, I was like, oh, great. You know, we'll put some microphones down. We're going to sit down. It'll be another interview show. You guys will have great guests. And then as these things evolved, I was just like, your guys creative vision, the way you're shifting up the industry, the way this show is gonna change the way people think about what a podcast is, what an interview is, it's amazing. And honestly, it's been such a joy, like, seeing you guys put in the work, putting the hustle. But also the most important thing is I feel like whenever I've seen you, I got to walk into one of your episodes when I was coming to do a photo shoot.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I love that.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

But then I just got to walk into an episode which is insane. And I'm like, I couldn't believe just how crazy. Real authentic. And, you know, people throw those words around.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So I don't even like using those words because nowadays everyone's like, oh, it's so authentic. It's so this. It's not even that. It's just is what it is. Like, it is just three friends.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

We don't even know what's coming. And we get in these random conversations and arguments that become so passionate that I feel like anyone watching a group or anyone in their own group of friends is able to relate to. Like, it's really just us kind of living and existing and it's a fly on the wall observation of that.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I think what's fascinating about it on a more thoughtful level is one of the things I'm trying to do with the work that we're putting out there in the world is trying to make people feel less alone. And I feel like this show makes people feel less alone.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

She always says there's a loneliness epidemic.

[Kristen]

Well. Cause there is. But I felt like I realized. I do think after Covid, like all of our social lives have, have slowed down or if they haven't, there was like. There was definitely like a period where socializing beyond the anxiety of like Covid kind of create. There was like a learning curve to kind of get back into it and putting yourself out there. And I really resonate with like tick tock. And it's not like I love watching people in like Michigan or like random state, you know, like home videos essentially of like people hanging out. And I feel like one cool thing about us is, I mean, especially Benny, not Dave is cool, but like, I feel like when we met Benny, you are such a good host. You always like, have us over and like, we have so much fun and we meet new people and I think we now have the opportunity to like bring people into that experience, which is what I like on TikTok.

[Benny Blanco]

I'll tell you something. I was, I was with my friend the other day and we were hanging out and he was. He like just went through a breakup. You know, I don't ever watch myself back. I'm not like a guy that does that. I don't like, once it's there, it's there. I like, I'll ask my manager, I'll say, hey, did I say something stupid? And he'll be like, ah, this was stupid. And I'll say, okay, take it out. Like, I'm not like a. I don't wanna. I. I can't do that in any. Like, I don't wanna look at a magazine. I don't wanna do any of that. But my friend wasn't feeling great and I said, let me put on an episode of, of, of our new show. And I put it on and at first he's like staring at it and he's laughing uncontrollably and he's like just like following along to everything. And it got to the point where we start having our normal conversation and it's just playing in the background and it's just like. It just. We were like, in it. But then we'd go do our own thing, and then we'd come back to it, and we were like, it was so cool to have it's, like, a constant friend in the corner. And it was like, whenever there was, like, a lull in the conversation, we would just start watching. Yeah, that's the thing again. And it was. And it. And. And we were laughing, and we would, like, pause it and then talk about, like, our own stories. We were like, oh, my God, that reminds me of. And to me, I feel like we live in a world where there's constantly so much static and noise of, like, not great things. And I feel like there's a way to put something good into the earth without, like, pushing, like, pushing it down people's throats, like, trying to do, like, some educational. Like, it. It's. It's like when we did Earth, like, we made ear, and it had a really good sentiment behind it, but it was talking about, like, your penis and a baboon's butt. Like, it's like. Like, I think there's a way to do something good for the world and not take yourself so seriously. And we talk about real life on this podcast. It's not a podcast, but I was

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

waiting for that, Dave.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's not only.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, it's Multimedia.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

He wants to change the name to Multimedia.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Multimedia.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No one liked it but me. Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Right. It seems a bit like 90s.

[Kristen]

That's what I.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

It's cool.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's classic. Vintage.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Vintage.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No one wants it, though, so it's still. Friends Keep Secrets.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, you wanted to change the name to Multimedia.

[Kristen]

You, like, sent a serious text the other day.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

That's amazing. I never got that text.

[Benny Blanco]

I just.

[Kristen]

It hadn't made it to you yet. It got shot down.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's not the right idea.

[Kristen]

I even think Benny replied.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No, but that's what I love about what you guys can do. Like, you guys are doing something that not a lot of people can do. You guys can have fun, be ridiculous, talk about crazy stuff, and have a moral message to wrap it up with, which is insane or not. And I think that's the beautiful thing, that you're making people feel close. But for you, Dave, like, you're working with your wife and your best friend.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

In the same space.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I feel like you have the hardest job, because.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

That sounds good to hear you say that, Jay.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. I just wanted to empathize. I was like, take a moment to acknowledge that artist. You're in the middle. Like, how does working with Friends, loved ones. Is hard. Anyway. Yeah, Chuck, how were you? Yeah, Chuck, how are you managing it?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Look, I really had no fear going into it because I just know both of them so well, and I've. I just feel like I. I wouldn't become this close with anyone if they. If the person couldn't analyze whatever facts at hand that are and talk about them fairly logically or whatever. So we get in little spats and arguments all the time.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

What's the roles usually? Who starts the fight, who continues in.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

All three of us are equally annoying to all three. It really varies. And all of us do different things.

[Benny Blanco]

I love. But I love all of them. They're so fun.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Sorry.

[Kristen]

No, go on.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I just know that there's really no argument or moment that could ever be the type of thing that we couldn't logically talk about it and arrive at the facts at hand. So ultimately, I have no fear. I also have a pretty high tolerance for, like, understanding him, understanding her, understanding when to leave things be. And I think all of us kind of do. And we're all so close that. I don't know. For me, it's literally like, I work so hard that nothing makes me happier than getting to work so hard and hang out with my best friend and wife while doing it.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

And I think we all communicate the same way. Like, we can kind of get, like, revved up and get, like, not aggressive, but passionate.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

We're all aggressive, but we don't take it.

[Kristen]

Like, I feel like we'll do it, and then, like, two seconds later will be like, we'll be fine. And I think that's, like. It's unique to kind of find people that communicate the same way that you do in these moments. I mean, we can definitely get on each other's nerves, but it's never, like. Like, it's never, like, taken personal, really.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm never mad at any.

[Kristen]

That's what I'm saying.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you are annoyed. You get annoyed.

[Benny Blanco]

No, but I'm never. It's like, what she's saying.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, it goes like, the second the conversation.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No one's ever mad at anyone.

[Kristen]

We get revved up together. Like.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, I don't think I could ever, like, be, like, actually really angry at you guys. Like, Pat. I don't think that could ever be a thing. Also, none of us are that type of person. He's only been angry at me one time in his entire life. And the reason was we were coming home from Coachella and he was really tired, and he hadn't slept in the type of, like, situate. He hadn't had a full night's sleep in a few days and he needs a full night's sleep and he's getting his stuff out of the car and I'm getting my stuff out of the car and I kind of like, like kicked his knee or something and.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And.

[Benny Blanco]

And intentionally. Yeah. I can't even remember.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I think you, like, like, I, like,

[Benny Blanco]

was like pushed me from behind playfully. Yeah, I was like, pushing him, like, as a joke and he was like,

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

no, no, no, no. He pushed me playfully.

[Kristen]

Oh, yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

You hit your shin.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And my shin hit the, like the car and hurt so much my shin.

[Benny Blanco]

He goes, get off of me. And he was. And then I laughed at him. It was. He was angry for about 15 seconds.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So how do you guys make decisions then Group conversation?

[Kristen]

It can get. It got. It can. No, it gets revved up. It got revved up.

[Benny Blanco]

I like to bring the vote in. But you. She'll never insert her opinion.

[Kristen]

I don't want the vote. I want us to talk it out. Talk it out.

[Benny Blanco]

I like the vote. He likes the we we.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So it's a two out of three. Like, the vote.

[Kristen]

I definitely think what. What I I've noticed that I do sometimes feel this isn't like a bad thing. I can tell that I'm, like a little bit more sensitive than the two of them. I. I think it's like a guy girl thing. Maybe not. I don't want to make such an assumption. But I. I would say that, like, I would say that I am the more sensitive one of the three of us. Would you guys not?

[Benny Blanco]

Well, I'm not sensitive. I'm not type of stuff. Like, I'm that sensitive. Like I'm crying in a movie, a song. Like, yeah, I'm not sensitive. And I don't think Dave is either. Like, if someone is just like. Like, I want someone to tell me also in the studio all, like, I don't like the sugar coated. Like, just if someone's just like, oh, like that. That didn't work. Let's do this. I'm like, oh, great. Like, let's try it again.

[Kristen]

I like that too.

[Benny Blanco]

No, you're sensitive. Well, your sense. She's sensitive in a different way that I get.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, me and Dave have been doing this. We've been in the foreground putting ourselves out there for many, many years. This is Kristen's, like, first thing is, like, everyone's first impression on her is like, it's not like she's like, back in the day where, like, it would be like, Michael Jackson would perform once, and you'd be like, man, I wonder what he's like as a guy. There was, like, no other media. We're seeing, like, every, like, nook and cranny. Like, she, like, she'll, like, burp or be like, sweat. Yeah. And she's so honest, and it's so rare that you see. It's funny. I. I like her and Selena. I see why they're such good friends, because it's like, there's so many similarities where, like, I feel like sometimes, like, you and Selena have this thing where you're both, like, so brutally honest about how you're feeling, and it's, like, it's so comedic, too. It's, like, funny. It's, like, hard.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I. I, like, can't explain it. Yeah. Like, you just saying, like, you're sweating. Like, I feel like mo. Like, most, like, especially because you guys are, like, so together and, like, I have nothing.

[Kristen]

Like.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

No, no.

[Benny Blanco]

But, like, Selena will say the same thing. She'll be like, I'm sweating, and I'm having, like, an anxiety attack right now. Like, and I. I love that about you guys, and I do feel like there's also a lot of you out there, and I think, like, you're going to inspire people so much because I

[Kristen]

wouldn't go that far.

[Benny Blanco]

You wear your insecurities on your sleeve in a cool way. And I like it. I. I love it. I love it.

[Kristen]

How I like that. It's cool.

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[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

How does it feel for you, Kristen? Like obviously this is a big deal. It is the first time you're going to be. This is the first interview you're doing.

[Kristen]

I almost didn't come. I was going to say that I had the stomach flu. I was like. I was like thinking about it.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I would have taken that. So.

[Kristen]

And you would have known. Phone. Well, I wouldn't have. Well, you shouldn't have.

[Benny Blanco]

We would have more room.

[Kristen]

No, but I. But I knew that. No, I actually like this interview. I'm doing fine. Yeah, there is like a spit bubble that keeps coming.

[Benny Blanco]

Smile.

[Kristen]

That's a little bit hard.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No one else is anything.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Right before we did this, she had a full thing of lipstick across her whole mouth and I told her right before.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Has an argument ever lasted longer than the recording of one of the episodes?

[Kristen]

No.

[Benny Blanco]

No. Is anyone's butt asleep? Sleep?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No. No.

[Kristen]

You gotta reposition.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Do you want to have a little walk around?

[Benny Blanco]

No.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You can if you want?

[Benny Blanco]

No, I don't want. I can chat to these two. No, I can't be the first man

[Kristen]

to ever just reposition your butt.

[Benny Blanco]

Jay said that nobody has ever used the bathroom during an interview ever. Except him once with Kevin.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Ha. I felt so embarrassed.

[Benny Blanco]

I can't.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Kevin, do you mind if I use the bathroom?

[Kristen]

And then did you use this one?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, the one back there.

[Benny Blanco]

You know, I always ask people, like, I always wonder, like, do they use the bathroom? No. Like, when, like, Adele is performing, like, is she ever just like, oh, my gosh, I ate something crazy? Like, like, does, like, like, does anyone have to poop ever?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

We're doing the best. Like, find a routine for moments in their life, right? Like, that's how athletes play.

[Benny Blanco]

My stuff is always right before I

[Kristen]

have to go to the bathroom. Like, I pee when I'm nervous, which is so nice for our podcast because I get up and go to the bathroom. Like, I would say, like four times an episode.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You was a hydrate.

[Kristen]

Well, though, not really. It's honestly. Yeah, I had to as soon as I sat down, but I've already. It's just nerves. Like, it's like, to me, it's a nerve based thing. It's not actually. I don't know.

[Benny Blanco]

Chuck, do you think your pee is nerve based?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's not pee, but I'm surprised at how often I'll have to poop, like 30 minutes before a concert.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Oh, yeah, I can relate to that. I can relate to that.

[Kristen]

What is that? Nerve? That's all.

[Benny Blanco]

You're 100%. I have to like, evacuate before when I used to, like, I did before.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Five minutes before going stage.

[Kristen]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

When I was. When I was younger, when I was like, first, like, really in New York, like, first got on the dating scene, I used to. Anytime I was gonna have a date with a girl and she was about to come over and we were gonna leave, I would like, I'd have to poop like two minutes before it would happen every time until, like, I got really comfortable with it. And I would. And I would be. I would be honest. Like, I used to use that as one of my, like, icebreakers or like, my other to poop. No, I would just, like, be like, my other icebreaker. I would say is. I would say, I don't usually do this. These, but what's the worst thing you've ever done in your entire life? And then we both say the worst thing we ever did in our whole life. And I'd be like, okay, now I feel like I know you. And I also have blackmail on you in case, like, this doesn't go well.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

How did you come up with that? Did it work?

[Benny Blanco]

I didn't do it. I didn't do it with Selena.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

There you go.

[Benny Blanco]

I feel like you always think, like, I, like, through dating, I was like, oh, like, I met my soulmate, or, like, oh, I met the person I could spend the rest of my life with. But it's so different when you actually meet the person that you are gonna spend the rest of your life with. It was such a different feeling and all. And I, like, went back, and I was like, whoa. Those feelings when I was younger, like, it was so different because it just clicks. You know what I'm saying? It clicks in a different way.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

What's Selena's reaction when she sees you cry at the altar? Like, like, on the wedding day? Like, what's her reaction to that? Trying to compare it to Radi's reaction of me crying.

[Benny Blanco]

I think she cried. And then. Well, it was all going on. We were laughing and just, like, talking to each other, like, while everything was happening. I've cried. I've cried in front of her plenty of times. Not. I'm. I. I cry. I cry.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I'm a cry.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I'm.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm a Pisces. I'm a little fish. Are you a Pisces?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, dude, that. That makes sense. Why?

[Benny Blanco]

Are you a Pisces?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No. All my. All my closest male friends are Pisces.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

What are you? I'm a. I'm a Virgo.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm a Virgo. My mom is Virgo.

[Kristen]

I'm a Virgo. But I don't really identify. I'm on the cusp.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I'm pretty cool. I'm pretty.

[Benny Blanco]

You're like, my.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You do have some very Virgo.

[Kristen]

When's your birthday?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

6th September.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Have you ever had, like, a person on here that's an expert at all that type of astrology?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yes, I had an astrology expert, Chany Nichols, a couple of weeks ago.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And did that person make you feel like it's actual kind of scientific fact? Because I'm you. Whenever anyone brings up sign or anything, I want to be like, what the Are we talking? Like, that stuff's so inconsequential, but then there are so many times where it seems spot on. Did that expert say that it's real?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You should have them on.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah, we should.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. That would be really cool, I think.

[Benny Blanco]

You don't ask questions. Right? Give us the Cliff Notes.

[Kristen]

You know what?

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Well, you go, the Cliff Notes is,

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I'm kind of like you, so I have an understanding of like Eastern astrology, which is very deeply scientific. The number of astrologers that are available are non existent now. It's hard, but it does exist. And I've had people tell me crazy things. They predicted how many kids they would have and the first name of their partner and all that kind of stuff. And then you have what we have today where you have horoscopes, which, of course, the daily horoscope you read is kind of made up. And so it's kind of finding that balance. Her take was there's lots of truth to it. It's all based on the planets and how they align. There's lots of ways of checking the system and making sure that it's. It's valuable insight. But the amount of people that are actually doing that today are very little. So it's almost like there's a lot of mites, not enough real MCs. Maybe that's.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I feel like when I moved to LA, the amount of people that seem to operate off of that, having so much consequence bloom, like, I. I feel like I'm on an island. As the only guy who's like, this isn't real.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I've just spoiled a weird pattern that all my best male friends are born in March.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Like, it's just a strange sense.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I was also born in March. Jay.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Wow. We haven't had enough time yet. Yet. But I'm looking forward to it. But seriously, my. My best friend growing up was 14th of March. My best friend, who's my best man at the wedding. 16th of March 15. My closest friend in LA is 18th of March.

[Kristen]

Wow.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Like, it's just. It's crazy.

[Benny Blanco]

And I'm 8th of March, same as

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

my sister, who I'm really good friends with.

[Benny Blanco]

8th of March.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Do Pisces and Virgos.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Well, I assume so. So many.

[Benny Blanco]

I know Pisces and Cancers really are. That's Selena's cancer.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Thanks.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

We gotta talk to that person.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Well, yeah. Maybe you should have them on the show. All right. What I wanted to do is I wanted to play a game that we created for you. So your show is called Friends Keep Secrets?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

We came up with Friends Don't Keep Secrets. Really creative. But we played a couples game with Benny, so we thought we'd play a troubles game with. With you guys.

[Kristen]

Fun. I love games.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I'm gonna give you one of these.

[Benny Blanco]

I love this.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

We did this for Benny and Selena. There we go. This is all about Kristen first.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Cool.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So the way this work is the players will write down their partner's potential answers to questions before comparing answers. So this is all about Kristen. We're both going to guess. We're all going to guess what hopefully Kristen writes down and then we're going to see and then we're going to do each of you and you write down your answer.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

We're writing down what we think Kristen is writing. Correct.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Correct. If Kristen could change one thing about Dave, what would it be?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I always had a fear of playing this type of game.

[Benny Blanco]

Hold on. Why? Hold on?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Because then I just would feel bad about, like, do I not know anything about the people that I'm so close with?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

But I am confident.

[Kristen]

Confident in your answer. I feel like, you know, this is also fun.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Like, it's not like, okay, I literally

[Kristen]

say it out loud all the time.

[Benny Blanco]

So mine's true.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So the question is, if Kristen could change one thing about Dave, what would it be? Kristen, please reveal your answer. Read it.

[Kristen]

That he likes wine.

[Benny Blanco]

What?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I don't like wine.

[Kristen]

The one thing I would change would be that you like to drink wine you don't like.

[Benny Blanco]

Change it.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I don't think you understand.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Hold on. Shouldn't she be no.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

If Kristen could change one thing about Dave, what would it be? She would change that you would like wine.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

That you would enjoy That I don't like wine.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. Correct.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Correct.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So what did you write?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I thought this was definitely the answer. How I chew and smack my lips when I eat.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, mine. Was that going on dates or being more fun?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

What?

[Kristen]

Well, I think that they're all.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I was certain she was going to put that.

[Benny Blanco]

I thought you. I was 100% sure you were going to say that.

[Kristen]

I mean, I literally say all the time, I say I wish you drank wine.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I mean, wine is kind of in. In the same world as the being fine.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristen]

The reason I didn't I don't write this.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Did you think about that?

[Kristen]

No. But you're also really good about not getting annoyed when I annoyed with you about that.

[Benny Blanco]

But were you thinking about mine a little too Well, I guess you were.

[Kristen]

I figured yours would be that. Yeah, I knew what he was gonna write.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Right.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

My mom has been complaining about the way that I smack my lips my whole life.

[Kristen]

Well, you have a little bit of a problem.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, what's our next?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

All right. Okay. So the next one is what's something Benny and Kristen always side with each other on that drives Dave crazy?

[Kristen]

Actually, I'll Just keep mine. There's two. There's two that I actually know.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Who?

[Benny Blanco]

She's mine.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So the question was. Was what's something Benny and Kristen always side with each other on that drives Dave crazy? Kristen, please reveal your answer.

[Kristen]

Okay, I have two. The second. The second one that I'm about to say, I know he'll get mad about.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So you don't have to say it then.

[Kristen]

Okay. Well, I. I like to stir the pot a little bit.

[Benny Blanco]

You can say both of them.

[Kristen]

Okay. One working less.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, that was two.

[Kristen]

His. I would say putting music.

[Benny Blanco]

No.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Oh, no. Benny's on my side.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. I'm on Dave's side. Well, I'm somewhere more.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No, you're on my side.

[Benny Blanco]

Coming off nicer while texting.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Oh, yeah, that's what I thought.

[Kristen]

I forgot about that.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I wrote that. I can be too hands on, right?

[Benny Blanco]

No, I love that you're not.

[Kristen]

We don't care about that.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Wait, look.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

This is nice. This is good feedback.

[Kristen]

We love your hands on.

[Benny Blanco]

I thought you were gonna. I thought one of you guys was

[Kristen]

gonna say, are we bad at this game?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No, you're good. No, this is good. It's a hard game. It's meant to be hard. It's meant to be hard.

[Benny Blanco]

It's a hard game.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah, it's really hard.

[Kristen]

We're learning new things about our. About each other that we don't it Now.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

The texting is a good guess.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And the things is you're. You're the things that you think you're. That people don't like you actually they love about.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah. That is nice, Jay.

[Kristen]

We love you, mochi.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I love you guys.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. All right. When was the last time Kristen admitted that she was wrong?

[Kristen]

What makes you think I'm ever wrong?

[Benny Blanco]

There's too much wavering to know because she'll go up and down about the right and wrong.

[Kristen]

Depends on what mood I'm in. I would say. I would say. I think I can't remember. I'm just gonna have a little.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Do you know something?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

The last you can give a time frame.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I'm doing that.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Good.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. Like last month, 10 years ago.

[Kristen]

They're gonna.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

12 years ago. 12 months ago.

[Kristen]

I mean, I don't even know if I'm actually gone yesterday.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You could write that down if you want.

[Kristen]

I'm trying to think. I mean, I'm so in infrequently wrong.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I love it. I love it.

[Kristen]

I really, really. It's hard to catch me time.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I like the thinking going on. This is good.

[Benny Blanco]

She's wrong.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

When was the last time she goes, benny, you know what? I'm wrong. I admit it.

[Kristen]

Well, we filmed. There was a time that we filmed something I still remember.

[Benny Blanco]

Only if she's caught in the act on the, like, Only if I see the footage. Oh, she's.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Oh, yeah, that, that is. That is. I know. Yeah. It's just a specific argument.

[Kristen]

Argument.

[Benny Blanco]

There's a bunch. Yeah, there's a few.

[Kristen]

What was I. Oh, I don't know if I'm wrong. I have to see the footage.

[Benny Blanco]

You saw the footage.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Basically.

[Benny Blanco]

No, you don't even need to. It doesn't matter.

[Kristen]

I don't. I'm free.

[Benny Blanco]

It doesn't.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I won't get into details too.

[Benny Blanco]

Too much nuance.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Basically, they got in an argument that Kristen was claiming that Benny kind of said something, brought something up to get under her skin.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Right.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And Benny was like, you're the one who brought this thing up in the first place. And she was like, no, I wasn't. And then we went into the control room and we said, play us back the. Or how we even got here. And then we watched the footage as we're filming the thing. And Kristen did actually, she brought it up.

[Benny Blanco]

See what we're talking. It's.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, he was amazing.

[Kristen]

I brought it up. But I, but, but, you know, no,

[Benny Blanco]

but I get it. I get her side. I get her side as well. Okay, next one.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

We did good. All right.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

All right.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

We're going to switch to Dave now. So it's all about Dave.

[Benny Blanco]

Bread and butter.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Who does Dave trust most for honest feedback? Feedback. Not just in the group, in the world.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Oh, I know exactly what you're doing.

[Benny Blanco]

Why?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Well, I think I know what you're. What is going through.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Don't expect.

[Kristen]

Oh, yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

But to me, the answer is actually pretty simple.

[Kristen]

The answer is answers.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

All right, so the question was, who does Dave trust most on his feedback? Dave, please reveal.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Benny and Kristen is the answer to that question. Now, I know they both probably think Jack and Henry.

[Kristen]

No.

[Benny Blanco]

What?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Oh, I said, what did you write?

[Benny Blanco]

I said me and Kristen. And then I said friends from home. But I was thinking of the Joiner situation. But it wasn't. It was just that he was right. So, yeah, I.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Both of them, like, look, Benny, for music, I, I, no song would ever come out without having him hear it and analyze it. Critique hit, say it's worthy, point out whatever flaws could exist. Kristen's the exact same thing for, like TV and film. Like any script or thing. Like, I I really trust both of their instincts.

[Benny Blanco]

What did you write?

[Kristen]

I wrote his mom or me or Jeff Schaer or Benny.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

My mom told me not to be a rapper. She said so.

[Kristen]

Okay, so. But I think.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, you're on the list. You just.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Those two. No question.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

I love that.

[Benny Blanco]

For sure.

[Kristen]

We got some of it right.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And both of you are not narcissists. You didn't write yourselves, right?

[Benny Blanco]

No, I wrote my.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Oh, you. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay, that's good.

[Benny Blanco]

I knew the. It's not being a nar. I just knew the answer.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, what's our next.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

All right, so if you called Dave because you ran someone over, would he help you bury the body? Would he call the cops, or would he tell you to call the cops?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Postmodern. Three options. Marry the body, call the cops, it's Dave's fault.

[Kristen]

Wait, no.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

You're saying, oh, I kill. I ran someone.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, yeah. You ran someone over.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Wait. Yeah, yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And then you call these guys. Guys. And I'm saying, would you tell them to. Wait, wait, wait. I confused myself. I confused.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

If one of them did it.

[Benny Blanco]

Sorry.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Sorry. Sorry if you called it. Sorry.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

If.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yes. My bad. Thank you so much for correcting me. I was wrong. Let this be in my statement that I admit it was wrong. If you ran someone over and you called Dave, what's he going to do? Tell them what happened? Would he help you bury the body? Would he call the cops himself? Or would he tell you to disappear?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Disappear is a new nuance.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, I'm adding a third. I'm changing it. What if I had the opportunity to change it?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, but is it our fault, though? Or was it accident?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

It's an accident. Obviously, you didn't do it on purpose. What would Dave tell you to do? This is. This is a test of Dave's character.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I don't.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

That's.

[Kristen]

I like framing it that way.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah,

[Kristen]

I feel like I. I know. I feel like I have the black marker all over because I've been doodling.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

All right, Dave, what would you do?

[Kristen]

I can see yours, Dave. But I don't know.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Dave would disappear. They would tell you to. You tell them to disappear. I never want to see you again.

[Kristen]

Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I was kidding about the second sentence, but Disappear. Disappear. Get out of here.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Go. Get.

[Benny Blanco]

I said he would analyze all the facts at hand.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

That's what I would do. That's a great answer based on that conversation. Kristen, what did you do?

[Kristen]

I said he would tell. He was tell us to call the cops. I think at the end of the

[Benny Blanco]

day, I think you would have to analyze all the facts at hand.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Let's talk about this. There's. This is the first question we've really had a.

[Benny Blanco]

Don't you agree?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I definitely wouldn't bury the bot. Like, I think I would talk. I can't get. I can't get wrapped up in criminal activity like that. But nor would I call the cops, like, behind their back, ever. I think I would try to convince that person why the thing to do is just call the cops.

[Benny Blanco]

And I think you'd have to analyze all the facts.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Or disappear. Yeah, disappear.

[Kristen]

You would do the right thing. Ultimately, yes.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

But here's what. I'm not willing to bury a body for you. You or anyone. I am willing to perhaps hear of something and just pretend that I never heard of it. Yeah, let's change the subject.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, yeah, we change the subject. We change the subject.

[Kristen]

He does. You do a lot of OCD around that subject?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

All right.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

All right. Okay, we'll do. We'll do Benny. We'll do Benny. Couple of questions on Benny. Good stuff for Dave. What's something Benny pretends doesn't bother him, but actually does.

[Kristen]

He doesn't really ever pretend.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yes, he does.

[Kristen]

He.

[Benny Blanco]

I do. Okay. Let me try to think.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I'm gonna try two. Can I have two options?

[Benny Blanco]

You can have two. Kristen could get this right. What is. Or do I do mine first?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Benny reveal putting things in my fridge incorrectly.

[Kristen]

I was gonna say that.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Oh, that's a good answer.

[Kristen]

I was gonna say that.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I don't think you pretend that. That doesn't.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

I do.

[Benny Blanco]

For anyone else. Except Kristin.

[Kristen]

I was gonna say it, but I'm like, you're so overtly upset.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

That's why you didn't let me put your stuff in the fridge today.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no, I didn't put it. I just wanted to be taken out a little bit.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

If he puts out something musically that has the potential to go number one and it doesn't go number one, he'll say to. To everyone else, I'm not bothered by not going number one. But I think it bothers him to not go number one. Go number two.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

If number one is Achie, you know, certain songs, they have no chance. Certain albums, they have no chance.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

So not going number one there.

[Benny Blanco]

You're saying if it's achievable. You're saying if it's Achie. If, like, if I'm going to go. Like, if I'm going to go 60 doesn't matter. But if I'm going to go number two.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

One, if you have the expectation that a number one is within reach and you go three or two or ten,

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I can relate to you.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

You're annoyed, which I will tell you.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm going to tell you my answer after.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And then my other thing is Benny's favorite line as of this year is, I don't care about anything. I've never heard Benny say anything more than I don't care about you about anything. And I think oftentimes that he'll say that when we're talking about something that we both care about. And if it seems like I want something that he doesn't want, yeah, he will say, I don't care about any.

[Kristen]

Anything.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

But I know he cares. He just wants to stop talking about it.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

And then I'll answer them all after.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, go on, Kristen.

[Kristen]

Mine is not sticking with the plan. Like, with a plan or the plan which is kind of in relation to, like, yeah, I think I don't care about anything. If you. I think if you. If you start to feel the loss of control instead, Benny will just be like, I don't care about anything. Doesn't matter. Yeah, it does.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Call Benny. You have to defend yourself.

[Benny Blanco]

This thing, I don't feel. I don't even understand it. Really, I don't.

[Kristen]

But what do you mean it's not sticking with the plan? What more do you need to understand?

[Benny Blanco]

I don't understand the question that I don't care about anything is like, this to me. When I'm having a conversation with someone, I'll just use Dave as the example. When I'm talking to someone and, like, usually pretty quickly into a conversation, I can figure out whether this person is going to be, like, even receptive to, like, the information that I'm saying or whether I think that they're. They have, like, something made up in their mind and, like, there's such a minute chance of me changing it. And then I say in my head, I say, well, is this ever going to change? Is it that important if it doesn't? And then just to nip it in the butt, I'll be like, I don't really care about it anything. And then that's my thing with the number one thing. It used to be very true to me. That used to be so true to me. I was fixated on getting the number one at any cost. Like, even if it was number 40. Like, I was like, I, like, had to. I used to be. When I was younger, I Used to really, really care so much that I felt like I wasn't even enjoying the things in front of me because I was, like, so, Like, I'd get the number one, like, in something, I'd be the at it. Like, I'd have, like, a number one Billboard record. And then I'd be not even, like, celebrating. I'd be like, yeah, yeah, that's cool. And then, like, move on to the next thing, and I wouldn't even think about it. And I feel like. I feel like that was so true to me for so many years of my life. And honestly, until pretty recently, until probably, like, four years ago, and then it was really solidified, honestly, with. With Selena, because I felt like I was won. I won it, and I already did. I already know that, like, I solidified what I wanted to do. And it was, like, the first time in my life where I didn't care. That doesn't mean that if it is in sight, I'm gonna do everything in my physical power to try to do the best thing I can, because that's just the type of person I am. I love the competition. I love striving for the greatness. But it doesn't have the same importance that it did have on me for so long. It used to have me in, like, a choke. So cold. And then, like, I felt like I was finally freed of that, like, in the last, like, four or five years, and it was, like, so freeing. But I understand both sides. I completely do.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, I can relate to it.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I understand. Like, I used to be the guy looking every week at the chart, seeing if we were getting close, and I was. So I put so much importance on it, and I don't even know why I did, because I didn't even care when I got it, like. But I think I did care, but I was so fixated on getting the net.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

You're probably just relieved when you got it.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I think I was probably just relieved. And it was, like, such a rat race, and I'm so happy to be free of it. But I do also understand that side of me when I was so into it, because I'm like, yeah, that's cool to do that, but it is also cool to be, like, totally free of it. And I think the healthy medium is probably somewhere.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Somewhere in the middle. Yeah. Well, thank you, guys. Thank you for playing. That started off some really.

[Kristen]

I like this game.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Intense conversation. We can do a few more, or I can take you to our ending. Three questions.

[Benny Blanco]

I'd like to do a few more.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Okay, let's definitely enjoy writing on the board.

[Kristen]

You guys should cancel all your plans after that. I'm staying.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

All right. Okay. These are more fun ones.

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[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Who is most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse. Now you get to free for all. Write down anyone.

[Kristen]

It has to be out of the three of us.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Three, two, one, reveal. Oh, why Benny? Everyone tells the same person. Why Benny?

[Benny Blanco]

I just have more skill.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Like I'm the last. No question. That's between those two. And I just think men physically are stronger than women.

[Benny Blanco]

What?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Physically.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Right.

[Benny Blanco]

But why would that have to come into battle?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I'm gone.

[Benny Blanco]

I thought it was like going by like resourcefulness.

[Kristen]

Well then I definitely would win because I feel like I can strategically.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Kristen's pretty athletic too.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

No, I just mean. Well, yeah, yeah. I don't know. My instinct was to say it's not me.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I'm the last.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Well, everyone rated each other on different scorecards.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, what's the next.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

All right, the next question. Question is who takes the longest to reply to text? You're pretty responsive with me.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

He responds to every. Oh, Kristen.

[Benny Blanco]

No, Kristen's so good.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Oh, she. Kristen's terrible. I don't even.

[Kristen]

I thought you always made fun of me. I never respond.

[Benny Blanco]

I actually think.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I actually think Kristen's worse than. You really don't respond because both of them.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Did she respond? Kristen has never texted me since we met. So that, that says a lot.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Kristen will respond to only me and she responds to me. Relatively timely. Benny will respond to. And she doesn't respond to anyone else ever.

[Kristen]

No, that's not. Let me say this. I mean I do, I did. I do have a little bit of anxiety with texting.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

So I, and I don't like to ever feel like I have to do like I don't wake up in the morning and read my text. Like I think that's where I am going wrong. And now I have like, I think 1600 unread text messages.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

It's going to be. It's going to be a lot more DMs.

[Kristen]

And well, I don't look at my DMs. I've never looked at DMs.

[Benny Blanco]

She's not public.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No. But now.

[Kristen]

But I don't even look at my friends.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

It's still not going to be public.

[Benny Blanco]

No. We'll see. I don't think you should.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I like Benny respond sends to every text, like no matter what.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yes. Agreed.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah, it's just there's like a 72 hour backup yeah.

[Kristen]

And he does it, you know, he's doing it in the morning and it will like, sometimes he'll respond to like a text that doesn't even make sense anymore. And you'll just get like, hahaha.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Respond to like a group chat like two days later. And. And it's so not relevant anymore.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Everyone's moved on.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm catching up.

[Kristen]

ITEX inspectors, like, you'll, you'll. If. If I'm like, paying attention to my phone, I'll have a. I'll be there.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Kristin, like, you know, her parents will be like, hey, do you think you could tell Kristen to respond to.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I got a text on the way here from my mom that was saying, hey, could you read the family text and please respond?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No way.

[Kristen]

And I thought, I am in the car.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

She's the worst at text. She really is.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, Roddy's the same.

[Kristen]

It's hard.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, Roddy's the same.

[Kristen]

My phone's a beeper. It's just for emergencies.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I'll respond instantly with way too much. With too much.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I appreciate that though, because then I feel like there's texture to seem like we can actually get somewhere.

[Kristen]

Yes, Jay, I'll text you just so you know that I'm capable.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

I'm.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I'm waiting for that text. I've been texting with these guys for like a year and a half now. Yeah, well, okay, next one who would accidentally start a cult. Go for it. Reveal. Oh, me. You put me in it. I'm not one of the people. I'm not

[Benny Blanco]

trying to think we wouldn't be your.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yours.

[Benny Blanco]

You're. You have more of like, the soothing thing. Like your. Your. Your message could like, read like being like, well, like, no one wants to join our cult.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

The reason I said Kristen. I only said Kristen because we don't.

[Kristen]

I. I could definitely be like a cult.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Kristen. Everyone likes Kristen, and Kristen loves everyone she meets and thinks she's going to be the best friend.

[Benny Blanco]

That is true.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

So it's like so many people that she runs into. She. She could end up thinking that they're going to be close and then all of a sudden there's like, you know, a cult somehow. I don't know. Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Style your hair to be like us today.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. I was like, it's very style my ha. Always like this.

[Kristen]

Yeah. You guys all have like, a similar look.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

This is the first time we' people with curly hair on the show at the same time.

[Benny Blanco]

You got lots of stats. Did they give you all these?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I'm Making them up. I'm making them up.

[Benny Blanco]

First time we had three people.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Curly hairs.

[Kristen]

You guys do have the same hairstyles.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

We have like variations of longer.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Would it like fro out?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, it's like my hair's like. My hair's like this. Naturally. This is my hair. But it's like.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

I feel like it's.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

It's like evolution of hair is like me to Dave to Benny.

[Benny Blanco]

It's like.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

It's like that.

[Benny Blanco]

It's like evolution.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

It is evolution. What think do you. You guys say evolution. Evolution.

[Kristen]

But we. I like evolution.

[Benny Blanco]

Aluminium.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Aluminium. Yeah, aluminum is what you.

[Benny Blanco]

Aluminium.

[Kristen]

Oh, you call it aluminium.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Aluminium. Aluminium. There's another few words.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

There's one word that you. I can't think of it now, and it's unfortunate.

[Kristen]

The food. The food. What do you call it?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

There's one word you always say. I can't remember it. But you. Different.

[Benny Blanco]

No, it's like, also, people say. They say. So you. In America, you would say, like, his name is Dave, but, like, if we were British, we would say he's called Dave.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

How do you say Innovative.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Innovative.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

That's what I mean.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Innovative.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

That's what you said.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I had to think about it now

[Benny Blanco]

because I hear it nonchalant. You said funny too.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I don't think he said.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No, he says nonchalant. Normal.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, no, you said. It said something different.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I said, do you want me to be less Shalon?

[Benny Blanco]

Wow.

[Kristen]

I like. I like Shalon.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. Shalon.

[Kristen]

Maybe I should change my question.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

These are the last three, because these are. You don't have to write for these anymore. These were questions given invite. So before the show. You can keep those whiteboards. They're yours. I'll sign them later.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, we won't keep them. We gotta.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I asked you each for a question you'd like me to ask the other two people in the room.

[Kristen]

Oh, yeah. So it's hard.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So these are the questions you gave. We'll start with Benny. So Benny's question to both of you, and the answer has to be in one sentence. I'll maybe let you expand the question from Ben. How do you separate work from your relationship? If you're disagreeing in work, does it spill over into personal and vice versa?

[Kristen]

I would say that we. Well, I think you've been a part of it. I. Dave and I are really. This is like the one thing that's great about our relationship and now I feel similarly with Benny, is that we can. We can like, have arguments and we can get upset with Each other and then, like, instantly come kind of once we feel like we've turned over the stones in the argument or, like, gotten to a place. It's never carried over. Like, we've never been. Have we ever been mad? More than a day. Even if.

[Benny Blanco]

A day.

[Kristen]

I don't even think we've ever been mad for a full day.

[Benny Blanco]

I've never been mad. Oh. Oh, you guys.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Are you asking about us, too?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, Yeah, I was, but then you said something about me.

[Kristen]

Yeah, Sorry.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. Go on, Dave.

[Benny Blanco]

Kicking my foot.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Take it away.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I think he asked the question because we work so we, like, beyond even. Even just our multimedia creation. You know, any script she writes, I'm. I'm a part of that with her. Any script I write, she's a part of that with me. So it's really. I. She's not a part of my musical process, though. That's my. I get separation there. Because she likes more poppy stuff that I'm just like, no.

[Kristen]

Is that true?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No, she doesn't like.

[Benny Blanco]

No, she's the opposite. She likes less poppy.

[Kristen]

One time I gave you a bunch of thoughts.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

She doesn't, you know, she doesn't like

[Kristen]

to show me his music.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I hate showing her my music. She doesn't listen to the lyrics.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

So I could show her a recording of me where the verses are, and she would like that just as much as me, like, doing really clever lyrics. So hard to.

[Kristen]

He also the. We. We. We tried. He tried to show me his music once, but it was so I had to. He literally, like, pulled up the chair directly in front of the computer. It was blasting. The. The speakers were blasting, and I wasn't allowed to move, and I just. It had to be under his.

[Benny Blanco]

I hate the way he set up the experience.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Because you have to sit there. I'm. I tell him I'm not. Don't show me the music.

[Kristen]

Yeah. So then I feel like this has

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

become about what we don't like about. That was not the question.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

To answer Benny's original question, how do we separate? I mean, we. We. I. I selfishly don't always feel the need to because I. When we're talking about work or whatever we're working on, I. I find it so inspiring and fun and, like, I'm just like. To me, there's, like, nothing more fun to talk about now. Now. So I look at it as, like, this is great. I get to have fun with my best friend, and we're being productive at the same time now. You know, sometimes I feel like, you know, I remember when I originally started dating Kristen and I learned that she kind of has the same exact interests and passions professionally as I do. I did have the thought, oh man, like, would I. Is it. Would I be better off marrying someone who was like an English teacher and there was like complete separation of church and state? But now seeing the opposite, I'm so happy that we get to connect over the thing because, like, you know, I think there's just such a joy to me when I get to talk about the things I care the most about in life, which unfortunately is work. Now I'm not working like some corporate drudgery job. I'm working on like the self expression of my soul. So yeah, it's, it's different to be like, oh, there's no separate. I'm not like working at an accounting firm. Like, I'm talking about, about, you know, how to tell these stories that I feel born to tell. And she's. It's fun. Like, we're talking about fun, creative shit.

[Kristen]

But you've helped me become, I would say the, like, you've, you've given me more confidence professionally. The good thing about us working together is you've given. Like, I feel like over the few years that we've kind of like really co. Meshed our professional lives, I kind of come from, come from a place of like more self doubt and like insecurity. And he's really helped, helped me get like the kind of confidence to even be doing this and writing and stuff. I feel like it's been really. I'm so thankful that you're like a good mentor and a husband.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Great answers, guys. Beautiful. Really nice. That felt good.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

But we should go on more dates without talking about the tasks that I've been.

[Kristen]

That's the newest thing that I had to say. I think sometimes I'll be like, especially with the anxiety that I've had, which I'm on a new path forward and I'm a new person and I no longer create the self inflicted torture of like anxiety about the podcast in particular. But there was a period where I was like, we have to stop talking about work all the time because I can't like mentally break away from it. And it was, I just, I wasn't. But now I'm. Now you can sign me up for that.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

What was the time where I was like, I don't want to talk about this right now. And you kept talking, oh, you were home. Doesn't matter. Because I was about to like do something with music where I just had to be in, like, the state of mind that. And I was in such a good mood. I had no anxiety. Anxiety about anything with, like, the. The podcast or whatever you want to call it. And she. I said, I don't want to talk about it right now. And she just wanted to talk about it.

[Kristen]

Well, this is an interesting. I did start going to therapy because I was like, it's important that he can't always be the. Like, I have such a tendency when I have anxiety to, like, for me to get over my anxiety, I have to say every thought that I have, which it used to be okay. I mean, I'm sure it's exhausting for him, but it used to not be so related to what he was doing. So therapy has been helpful because instead of, like, taking him on, which he's still very supportive, but, like, I don't have to, like. I felt like I was, like, bringing him down. So the therapy now is a lot easier for me to, like, just mentally spiral and then. I'm not putting it on you. So we've learned a little. We've. We've kind of, like, started to create some boundaries.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

And I learned. No, now not to get her worked up when she's in bed. And I know not to, like, if I. Sometimes I'm. I come in and I come up with an idea of, like, we should do this, that. And then she. And very easily. Yeah, she needs to sleep.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Well, no, I just would get, like, revved up and excited.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. Me and my wife are like. So, like, I'm the one who comes to bed and wants to chat and talk and, like. And she does not want to.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

And she's like, first thing in the morning, wants to chat and talk. And I'm like, yeah, I need to, like, gear up slowly. So I get that. Yeah, that's beautiful. Thank you.

[Kristen]

We need to thaw. I have to start the morning, though.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

So this was Kristen's question for Benny and Dave. Do you guys talk about me when I leave the room?

[Kristen]

You have to answer honestly.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Not. Not really, no.

[Kristen]

Cool.

[Benny Blanco]

Not really.

[Kristen]

This was a hard thing to. Hard question. I couldn't think of it.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

It's a good question.

[Benny Blanco]

I Like, the only time I remember that is at New Year's when I was like, what are you guys talking about? And then you. You. Dave said, I'm not at liberty. Then he said. He said. And he was just. And then I was like, all right. And then we just started talking about something else. And then when you came over, you were like, are you talking about me and we weren't talking about you at the time.

[Kristen]

It's a question I ask a lot. This paranoia that as soon as I leave the room. But I know that it's mostly more of a joke. I know you guys are.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No, we never really talking.

[Benny Blanco]

No, we're positive.

[Kristen]

Oh, do you guys say positive to both of us? Do you say positive things behind my back? Like, wow, he said no.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

He just said no.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I've said, like, we do.

[Benny Blanco]

I've said like, I was so bl. Blown away by how well Kristen's done. Like, I remember we talked about that before. So you guys told you too?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

We talk about you the way, I don't know, guys talk about their wives or it's not like we're not like talking about you professionally that often.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, there's never. And there's never.

[Kristen]

Do you guys not have this fear?

[Benny Blanco]

Dave's never come.

[Kristen]

No. I don't know. I live in. I always am. Like, think about it.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, are they all talking about me? No. And if they. And if you guys are talking about me, oh, either there's a reason or like they're upset with something or I don't care. Yeah, yeah.

[Kristen]

I think I care. I care too much what people think. So I'm always like. Even though it's like kind of half joking. I will. I thought everybody felt this way. Be like a lot of people do feel this way. Yeah. Like, be like as soon as I leave, I'll be like, I wonder even if it's not bad. I just wonder if they're being like, yeah, she was talked a lot that time or she said that really bad question.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

She has so much self doubt and like circular thoughts of negativity that are the. Our brains are like on. But I think so much.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I think so much of that is women's conditioning in society. Treatment of women in. In society. Like, that's my take on it.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I was going to say that. I was going to say and.

[Kristen]

And add.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No, I mean serious. I mean deadly serious. When I talk to all my male friends, they all feel the same way. And then I talk to my female friends, they all feel that way. I'm like, wait, what? That's, that's, you know, you can't then just ignore it.

[Kristen]

And I think it's been a little bit more. It's been more exaggerated just because of the, like the uncertainty about all of this being public. I feel like I live.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Your hair's in your mouth. I'm sorry.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I can't see it from here at all.

[Benny Blanco]

I didn't see it either.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It just was. It was.

[Kristen]

I appreciate it. I told you to do it. I tell him to do this thing.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Thank you.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

It's beautiful. Yeah. It's been exacerbated because you're dealing. Me and Benny are also. Even though. Yes. We're men. We're like the.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You've been public for so long, but

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

we're like the two. No one believes in themselves more than me and Benny. Like, we don't think. Like, so it's like that compared to self doubt. It makes it feel even more of

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

a. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristen]

But I'm doing a lot better because I realized that. I realized that so much of my self doubt is like my default narrator, like, in my head. And I feel like this podcast will help me. I don't know. I could just crumble.

[Benny Blanco]

No.

[Kristen]

You guys may never see me again. Not in a bad way.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

You're so aware of. I think, you know, I think part of it is just as hard as you are on yourself. You don't give yourself enough credit as well. But like, you're so aware of what's going on in your mind.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I think.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I think if you're not aware, that's when it's really.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

I agree.

[Benny Blanco]

She's very.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

You're right.

[Kristen]

I like to hear that.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, you're very smart.

[Kristen]

Doing okay?

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. All right, final question. This was Dave's question. I saved what I believed to be the best for last.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Thank you, Jeff.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

This is Dave's question. So Dave's question to Kristen and Ben Benny is if I died, how often would you guys hang out or see each other?

[Kristen]

Wow. I feel like if you die, that'd be so heartbreaking. And we'd be sharing. We'd be like experiencing similar pain. Well, me more. But I can't speak on half of Benny maybe I don't know frequently. I don't know, like as much as we could.

[Benny Blanco]

But check first. I obviously I would edit all. All the things. Do I know how you would like them? And I'd find a way you get the right features. Yeah, I'd find first I was talking about the show. Then for. Then I'd edit. I'd. Yeah, I'd make sure to get the right features that we've spoken enough about. I'd be able to. At least there's like 15 songs. I could cobble together something great. And I would. And I would do that. And I would make sure not.

[Kristen]

But would you.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

15 songs I could cobble together.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No, no, no, no.

[Benny Blanco]

To make something, like, truly, like, would

[Kristen]

you do it hanging out with me? Isn't that the qu.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

No, no, no.

[Benny Blanco]

This was.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah. Would she.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Would she be, like, she Be involved?

[Benny Blanco]

Clearly.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Would you involve her in the. No.

[Kristen]

Clearly, he's.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no, no. But I would involve her in the rollout. No, No, I didn't roll her.

[Kristen]

Would I still be invited to, like, the dinner parties?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I think I would hang out with you. I think you would. Well, I'd like you to feel like my. My Dave role. Like, I feel like you'd. I feel like I'd be calling you, like, every day and it would be so.

[Kristen]

You can't. You have to. We have to protect you at all.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Or. Or would you guys be so reminded of me when you saw each other that you'd actually have to never see each other ever again?

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no. We'd see each other all the time.

[Kristen]

If I died, would you guys just replace me?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No. What,

[Kristen]

in the show?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No, it would just be a two person show.

[Benny Blanco]

What? No. It would be done.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Or would we keep.

[Kristen]

I don't.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No, I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be that interested anymore.

[Kristen]

I'm glad he got all the footage, though.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

No one's dying. I hate talking about this. Even though I question. I know. No one's dying.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

We've got footage again, and everyone needs

[Kristen]

facts, and you brought it up.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I am so. I mean, just spending time with you makes me just love the show even more. But I want to say to all of you, like, truly, you guys, trusting me, giving me this opportunity to do this with you has been a highlight of my professional career. Like, to work with all three of you because it's very rare that when you're like. You know, when I started my podcast seven years ago, I never thought I'd be helping create something amazing with the vision of all three of you. And I feel so lucky and fortunate. So thank you for the gift, thank you for the blessing, and thank you for all your.

[Benny Blanco]

Just the same way.

[Kristen]

We love you, Jay.

[Benny Blanco]

You are our mentor. You're our guru.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I'm definitely. No, don't. Don't. Stop making me this cult leader, though.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, I'm listening. No, you're like the. You're so good to bounce. All this stuff, I feel like you've already laid, you know, laid the ground. We're just trying to.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

I don't think it's. That you guys had a vision. You know, what you're building. I think it's been. It's been fun getting the opportunity to be a part of it. That's how I feel about it. So thank you for letting me be a part of your crazy creative vision.

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Thank you for hearing our desires and not scoffing at them and doing your best to make it all happen.

[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

Yeah, absolutely. Friends keep secrets excited on three what happens man?

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

Friends on three friends on purpose on

[Kristen]

purpose on three friends on purpose friends

[Dave Burd (Lil Dicky)]

on purpose on three 1, 2, 3

[Benny Blanco]

friends on purpose Purpose.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how to speak to yourself with more compassion.

[Kristen]

There's blessing in the breaking and every moment that you encounter in your life, even if it's just road rage.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

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[Jay (Interviewer/Host)]

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[Benny Blanco]

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