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Why Making New Friends Feels Exhausting As An Adult (And How to Make It Easier)
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Adam
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Jay Shetty
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The number one health and wellness podcast, Jay Shetty. Jay Shetty. The one, the only Jay Shetty. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to On Purpose, the place you come to listen, learn, and grow. My name's Jay Shetty and I am grateful as ever that you decided to tune in. Whether you're driving to work, driving back, walking, walking your dog, working out, cooking, whatever you're up to. Thank you for being here right now. Now, a couple of weeks ago, I posted a TikTok Instagram reel and I was talking about the difference between real friends and fake friends. And it was something I was thinking about for a while now because I started to find that as we get older, we start to think differently about friendships. I remember seeing this quote years ago, and it was on a meme and it said, my circle has gone smaller but grown in value. And it showed a large coin that was thinner moving into a smaller coin that was thicker and worth more. And it's just interesting how I think so many of us think about our relationships that way. So in this TikTok and in this reel, I said, real friends clap the loudest when you win, even if they're still waiting for their turn. Think about that for a minute. Real friends don't get jealous. They don't get envious. That's one of the core traits of a real friend. When they see you win, they see what's possible. When they see you win, they want to know how they can join in and celebrate, how they can make you feel happy, how they can honor what you've achieved. I then went on to say, real friends lift you up even when they're carrying their own weight. I think so many of us have been this friend. So many of us have these friends that show up for us even when we know it isn't easy for them. I then said, real friends know your success is a reflection of hard work, not luck. When you start to become successful, when you start to make moves, when you start to see some progress, people around you will start to say, you're lucky, you're fortunate. You should be grateful. Now, here's the thing. You should feel that way. It's great to feel grateful, fortunate and lucky when it's for yourself. But your real friends see and remind you that it was your hard work that paid off. It was your hustle. It was your commitment, it was your dedication, it was the hours that you put in. They saw that, they know that, and they remind you of that. I then went on to say, real friends are happy to see you shine because your light doesn't dim theirs, and real friends do the same back. But something I've heard from so many of you recently is that making new friends as an adult is exhausting. And we want it to be easier, right? We all want to have meaningful relationships. We keep hearing about it in every podcast, in every episode, that the quality of your relationships defines the quality of your life. It's the thing that we hold as the highest metric in what makes us feel like we had a good life at the end of our life. Yet as we grow older, we change jobs, we move countries, we move cities, and it feels as though we don't have the same friends around us, or some of us may have the same friends around us, and we haven't moved, but we've grown, right? You may not have moved city or moved country, but you've moved on. And so that group of friends that you grew up around doesn't feel like your people anymore. For me, I've moved so much, right, in my years of being an adult. I've lived in India, I've lived in New York, I've lived in la. I have moved around a lot. And one thing that I knew I had to do as I was moving was prioritize building community, building friendships. As much as I focused on building my career, wherever I went, I made it a priority to build community. And the reason was because I didn't want to be lonely. I didn't want to end up feeling like I'd achieved all my goals, but that I didn't have anyone to share it with. I didn't want to feel like I'd achieved what I wanted to do, but I didn't have people that I had memories with. And so today's episode is for anyone who's thinking about making friends as an adult, but finds it exhausting and wants it to be easier. So I want to start with this. First of all, if you feel like it's exhausting to make friends as you get older, you're not imagining it. It's true. It's actually harder. Researchers have actually studied this. A massive 2020 meta analysis found that friendship networks start shrinking after your mid-20s, not because you're doing anything wrong, but because life just changes. Work ramps up, people move, family becomes more central. You have kids to think about, right? You have family members to worry about. Social psychologist Robin Dunbar says, we can only maintain about 150 meaningful relationships. And to be honest, that sounds exhausting in and of itself. But they go on to say, we can only have five close friends, and in our 30s, sometimes those five people just become our partner, our kids, and one of our parents or maybe two of our parents. And so that number five is so limited. And by the way, this is natural. Your social energy gets stretched thinner. You got to think about work, you got to think about responsibilities. So first of all, it's really natural. It's not because there's something wrong with you. It's not because you made a mistake. It's not because you're weak, Right? So here's a mini experiment that I want to share with you for this one. Ask yourself this question, who do I miss? I call this the who do I miss Test. Ask yourself, who have I thought about lately and wished I saw more of? Who's that person in our life that we actually have a lot of good memories with? And maybe they've moved, Maybe we've moved. Maybe we don't see each other as much. Maybe they got a new job. Maybe you had a kid. Who's that person you genuinely miss? Who's that person that you have so many good memories with? But it's just been a while. Here's what I want you to do. I want you to text them. Text that person and say, hey, I miss seeing you. Should we grab a quick coffee? Should we go for a walk? Or if you live far away, do we need to arrange something? You know, it doesn't need to be a huge plan. You can start small, even with a Zoom or a FaceTime, but reconnect with the one person who already gets you. I think so often we think we have to have new friends. We think we have to move on. But there's someone in your life who deeply gets you, who already knows your heart, who can already read in between the lines. I reconnected with some of my high school friends, and it's really interesting because when you enter high school with someone, you just have a shorthand. And I think there's a mistake we make with this mindset as well. We think that our old friends were our real friends and our new friends are not real friends. The difference is time. When you were young, you spent every hour at school with this friend. You then probably came home and spoke to them on the phone or texted with them, messaged them, maybe even went out with them. We were spending around nine hours a day, minimum, with someone. And that's how we became friends over 3, 5, 7, 8 years of our life. When you become an adult, you maybe see your friends once a week, if you're lucky, for an hour or two. So it's much harder to build that depth. And because of this, we often find it more comfortable to be around old friends, even if we don't connect and don't resonate compared to new friends, who we may have to make more effort with. I think that's part of where the exhausting thing comes from, right? It's like with new friends, you gotta show up, you gotta make plans. You feel like you can't just be on your phone. You can't just lay back. It actually requires something of you.
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Adam
Does this podcast make you happy? Of course it does. That's why you're here. But it only comes out once a week for happiness, every night. You need Adam and Eve. Yes. I'm talking about sex toys. It's cool. It's cool. You have earbuds in, right? Adam and Eve, America's most trusted source for adult products, has been making people very happy for over 50 years, with thousands of toys for both men and women. Just go to AdamAndEve.com now and enter code IHEART for 50% off. Almost any one item, plus free discreet shipping. That's AdamAndEve.com, code IHEART for 50% OFF.
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Jay Shetty
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Radhi Devlukia
This is Radhi Devlukia from a really Good cry. Apothecary is a leading Japanese health and wellness brand dedicated to harnessing the power of plant medicine. Apothecary is inspired by founder and CEO Shizuokusa's Japanese heritage and mission to bridge east and west by harnessing the intelligence of nature. Their tinctures are easy to add into your daily routine. You can take them directly into your mouth or mix into a delicious functional mocktail. I tried Blueburn, a powerful blend designed to boost metabolism, curb sugar cravings. And it's packed with Oregon grape root, a natural source of berberine plus stress, supporting adaptogens to balance blood sugar and support your recovery. Apothecary is sold in sprouts farmers market stores nationwide and online@ Ulta.com, amazon and Apothecary.com. that's Apothecary with a kothecary.com and I.
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Jay Shetty
Think this is principle number two. I want you to recognize that your brain has become more guarded. Now, see, when you're younger, your brain's more plastic, more open to novelty. But by your 30s, your brain actually becomes more risk averse. According to neuroscience research, your amygdala, the part of your brain that handles fear, lights up more when meeting new people. As you age, we become more cynical, more skeptical, more doubtful. Why? Because you now have more experiences of rejection, of awkwardness, maybe people stabbing you in the back, mistreating you, people not being loyal. So your brain tries to protect you by making you avoid potential discomfort. So it's not just you being antisocial, right? You might be thinking, hey, I just feel like I'm becoming more an introvert. I feel like I'm being more antisocial. No, it's your brain playing defense, right? That's what's happening. You're being more defensive. And this is natural Again, but what does that do? It means we spend less time and more skeptical time with new people. And we assume that we can't make good friends anymore. I want you to try something out. Here's a mini experiment. I call it the two minute rule. Next time you're in a new space, like an event, a workout class, a friend's dinner, a friend's birthday, just make a two minute connection. Compliment someone, ask a question, say one friendly sentence. No pressure to make a new bestie, right? You're just training your brain to stop seeing socializing as a threat. Smile at someone in the line. Start a conversation with someone while you're waiting in line, whatever it may be. And by the way, it may feel weird at first, but you'll start to realize how everyone's craving it. Everyone is craving connection. Everyone around you wants to connect with someone, wants to break out of their mold, is looking for friends. That's what I've realized. As adults, more of us are looking for friends than we believe. It's just that everyone's acting too cool. Everyone's acting like they don't need it. Everyone's acting like, you know, it's just not what they're looking for. And because of that, we start to think, oh, well, you know, why am I the one putting in effort? So it's just something to think about. I want you to pause for a second and ask yourself when have you actually had someone in your life that you drifted away from? Someone that you may not even have a reason, and maybe there was a hidden reason. Sometimes we've disconnected from someone because of a hidden reason. You didn't really have a falling out, you didn't really stop talking, but you stopped talking, if you know what I mean. And it's so important to figure out what the root of that was because sometimes it's harder to make new friends and it's exhausting and it can be easier to reconnect with an old friend. So this may not be someone you miss, it may not be someone you think about, but it's someone you drifted away from, but you really don't know why. Now, something that happens with new friends as we get older is you're more selective now. And that's not a bad thing. In your 30s, you care more about alignment than abundance of friends. Right? In your 30s, as you get older, in your 40s, as an adult, you focus on alignment more than abundance. You've been burned. You're tired of fake friends, flaky plans, and emotional one way. Streets and psychologists call this motivated selectivity. You start prioritizing depth over breadth. Now, that's not a weakness, but it's a surprise. Because when you were younger, you maybe didn't do that and maybe that was the reason you got burned, right? How many of you had friends when you were younger and you almost just were best friends overnight, and then you realized that that person you know was trying to get with your boyfriend, was needy, was exploiting you in some way, whatever it may have been. So we become more selective as we get older, which there's nothing wrong with, but it can feel lonelier at first because you're waiting for deeper connections while only shallow ones seem easy to find. See, the interesting thing is we want a deep connection, but every deep connection started off shallow. Think about that for a second. Every deep connection started off shallow. Now, sometimes you have this instant chemistry, instant spark with someone. Now that's beautiful when you have that. I sometimes have that with someone on the podcast. That doesn't mean it needs to turn into a full blown best friend situation. But it's important to realize that you can't build a deep connection without walking through the shallow. So you have to ask yourself, who have you met recently? Who have you connected with recently that you haven't put enough effort in with? You know you need to put in effort. Yes, it's going to be exhausting. Maybe the first time, maybe the second. Time. I promise you, by the third time, it's not that exhausting, right? By the third time it should feel natural. The first time it might be exhausting. Second time it might be exhausting. We have to push through that because imagine if one of your greatest friends is three hangouts away, right? We're so scared of the exhausting three hangouts that we don't realize that by the fourth time I'm going to be able to connect with this person and actually that person becomes someone easy for life. That person becomes someone natural for life that I can go to. It's good enough. It's worth it to sit through the three awkward, exhausting, tiring times to break through that barrier and give it a go. So give it a go. That person that you've connected with recently, reach out to them. Set up a one on one hangout, check in workout. Whatever it is, I couldn't be more excited to share something truly special with all you tea lovers out there. And even if you don't love tea, if you love refreshing, rejuvenating, refueling sodas that are good for you, listen to this. Radhi and I poured our hearts into creating Juni Sparkling Tea with Adaptogens for you because we believe in nurturing your body and with every sip you'll experience calmness of mind, a refreshing vitality and a burst of brightness to your day. Jooni is infused with adaptogens that are amazing natural substances that act like superheroes for your body to help you adapt to stress and find balance in your busy life. Our Super 5 blend of these powerful ingredients include green tea, ashwagandha, acerola, cherry and lion's mane mushroom. And these may help boost your metabolism, give you a natural kick of caffeine, combat stress, pack your body with antioxidants and stimulate brain function. Even better, Juni has zero sugar and only 5 calories per. Can we believe in nurturing and energizing your body while enjoying a truly delicious and refreshing Drink? So visit drinkjuni.com today to elevate your wellness journey and use code ONPURPOSE to receive 15% off your first order. That's drinkjuni.com and make sure you use the code code on purpose. Now how do we make it much easier? There's something I love. I call it the Friction rule. Research in behavioral science shows we do things more when there's less friction, AKA less effort. So don't try to start brand new routines. Instead ask where am I already going that I could add a connection to if I go To a workout, let me have someone that I go to that workout with, right? If I go for a walk after work, let me find someone I have that walk with. If I love going out for brunch on the weekend, let me add someone to that. So it's the tag along invite. Next time you go into the gym, farmer's market, or even errands, text someone, hey, I'm going here. Do you want to come with me? It's low pressure. It adds connection to something you're already doing. So now it's less exhausting. The exhausting part is when you have to create plans, add plans, make plans, make time. This is something you're doing already. It doesn't create friction in your life. That's why it's the no friction rule. Number one, use the no friction rule. To me, this has become one of my secret weapons. I feel like I'm able to spend so much quality time with people without having to make it crazy and without feeling like I'm having to take more time out of my life. Another thing I love is creating micro routines. There's a lot of people that I can't see every week, People that I like, people that I actually would like to spend more time with. But I couldn't see them every week because I want to prioritize my time with my wife, I want to prioritize my time on my own, and I want to prioritize my time with my team. So big plans often get canceled, but tiny rituals create consistency, which is what friendships actually need to grow as adults. Right? So when you were young, you saw someone at school every day. Now, as adults, you're not going to be able to do that. So research shows it takes about 90 hours to form a casual friend and 200 hours to get close. But that time isn't going to happen very quickly as an adult. It happened like in one year at school. Less than, right? That's the point. You did that in one semester at school. You're not doing that with your adult friends. So try this. Try the mini experiment of a 10 minute touch point. Pick one person you like and set a calendar reminder to text them once a week. You can say, hey, randomly thought of you, just checking in, how's your week? Do you want to catch up this month? It allows you to keep someone on your radar. They're on yours, and you keep watering the seed. I do this every time I think of someone, I message them. And 99% of the time I get a message that says, I was just Thinking of you too. And I love it when this happens because it makes you realize the people you naturally connect with. Someone may even say, hey, I just thought of you. You want to go on a walk tomorrow? Hey, I'm going to this event. You want to join me? Hey, I'm going on a hike. Do you want to join me? Like, it becomes this really easy way to connect with people, and it takes away the stress and the pressure that we add on to friendships, right? We often think it has to be a big plan. It has to be really interesting. It has to. It's the micro routines that win. This is probably my favorite one and one that I've used a lot since moving la. I call it say the thing. Sometimes the best way to spark connection is to admit you want it. One study found that people consistently underestimate how much others like them after meeting. This is known as the liking gap. We assume we're awkward or annoying, but we're usually way more appreciated than we think. Think about this for a second. When was the last time you connected with someone and you walked away thinking, oh, they probably think I'm not that interesting. Guess what? That person walked away feeling the exact same thing. Unless you're both narcissists. And in that case, you walked away thinking that you're the best thing that ever happened to them. But most of us, we doubt ourselves, right? We doubt whether we were interesting enough, whether we were friendly enough, whether we were nice enough. And we overthink that, and then we don't know how we feel about it. So here's what I want you to try out. I want you to try out the honest message. Send this to someone you kind of know, but want to know better. Hey, I loved our conversation lately. Let's grab some lunch, right? It feels awkward for 10 seconds, but it opens a door. And I promise you, people are looking for this. I recently had an interaction. I was at an event. Someone came up to me. They were saying to me how much they like my work. I realized I knew of their work, their behind the scenes, and they do amazing stuff too. Then we connected on a zoom call. And for me, it was just so easy. Like, I just vibed with this person and I realized it's so important to wear your heart on your sleeve, right? I wear my heart on my sleeve because I'd rather someone know where I stand with them than keep them guessing and keep myself distant from a great relationship. So a lot of this is hard. It does feel weird. But I want you to focus on the one you miss, the one you drifted from, the one you haven't invested in yet. And overall, it's about recognizing that the reason why it's harder to make friends as an adult is, is because it almost takes longer for that person to get caught up. It's almost like they're meeting you at chapter 30 and you're like, wow, now they need to understand chapter one to 30 to understand me. And it's a really tough pressure to put onto someone you just met, right? Even if you told that person your whole life story, they'll never get caught up in one swoop. But guess what? When your parents in town, get everyone together. When your friends are in town, get everyone together. When you can start to do that, the person gets an opportunity to piece your story together over time. Now, you're not trying to play catch up. And you're also not putting the pressure of saying, hey, only if you understand the first 19 chapters of my life do you understand the 20th. Some people walked into our life in the 20th chapter, and guess what? They're going to be here till our 40th chapter. They're going to understand us. Give them some grace. Stop putting so much pressure on the new people in your life. The last thing I want to talk about is the need to connect with colleagues. We spend so much time at work. We spend so much time with the people around us at work. But often they're the last people we want to be friends with. Yes, it could be hard. Yes, it could be difficult. Yes, you may not trust them, but if you can, it's worth investing in one good friend at work. We're going to spend a third of our lifetimes at work. It's important that we feel like we can be comfortable and genuinely ourselves with at least one person. And I promise you, people at work are looking for the same thing. They may want to rush and get home. They may have someone at home that understands them better. Of course they have their own friends. You're not trying to compete. You're not trying to get in the way of another relationship in their life. But if we're going to spend so much time at work, it's important to try and find someone there. And that makes it less exhausting. You're seeing this person anyway. You're connected with this person anyway. Make an extra bit of effort and it will go a long way. Thank you so much for listening to today. I hope this helps you reconnect with some people in your life. And I can't wait for you to Listen to the next episode. I am always in your corner and I'm rooting for you. Thanks for listening. Hey everyone, if you love that conversation, go and check out my episode with the world's leading therapist, Lori Gottlieb, where she answers the biggest questions that that people ask in therapy when it comes to love, relationships, heartbreak and dating. If you're trying to figure out that space right now, you won't want to miss this conversation.
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Ameca Insurance Representative
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Jay Shetty
It's really hard to argue.
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Ameca Insurance Representative
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Jay Shetty
Just hold hands as you're having the conversation. It's so lovely.
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Adam
Does this podcast make you happy? Of course it does. That's why you're here. But it only comes out once a week. For happiness, every night. You need Adam and Eve. Yes. I'm talking about sex toys. It's cool. It's cool. You have earbuds in right? Adam and Eve, America's most trusted source for adult products, has been making people very happy for over 50 years with thousands of toys for both men and women. Just go to AdamAndEve.com now and enter code IHEART for 50% off. Almost any one item plus free discreet shipping. That's AdamAndEve.com, code IHEART for 50% OFF.
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Radhi Devlukia
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