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On Texas Football: Coffee & Football LIVE from SEC Media Days! | Latest Texas Football News!

Podcast: On Texas Football
Host: Bobby Burton (with Jerry Hamilton, Hank South, others)
Date: July 23, 2026

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Overview of Episode

This episode of "Coffee & Football" comes to you live from Tampa at SEC Media Days, day four, and is packed with inside reporting and real-time reactions from the Texas Longhorns’ appearance at this major event. Host Bobby Burton, along with Jerry Hamilton and Hank South, discuss what to expect as Texas Head Coach Steve Sarkisian and players Arch Manning, Colin Simmons, and Trevor Goosby are set to take the stage. They break down breaking news on the roster and the latest developments in NCAA lawsuits, analyze Texas A&M’s trajectory, touch on Lane Kiffin’s comments and the SEC landscape, and set the stage for a pivotal 2026 season for Longhorn football.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Texas Takes the Stage at SEC Media Days

• Timing and Anticipation: Texas is the final school to present at Media Days, building suspense and keeping media and fans engaged.
• Players Representing Texas: Head coach Steve Sarkisian, Arch Manning, Colin Simmons, and Trevor Goosby are highlighted.
• Personality Watch: Colin Simmons is pegged as the player most likely to provide candid, headline-worthy responses.
  • “Colin’s more willing, it seems like, to show it in front of the media.” (Jerry Hamilton, 05:28)

2. Breaking News: Cole Hudson’s Return

• Legal Victory: Former starter Cole Hudson wins a temporary restraining order against NCAA, allowing him to return to team activities (03:00–04:40).
  • “Cole Hudson…appears set to come back and join the Longhorns as soon as today, actually.” (Bobby Burton, 04:18)
• Wider Impact: Similar rulings may open the door for other players nationwide.

3. Texas Roster and Position Analysis

• Offensive Line: Cole Hudson’s return stabilizes depth but sparks debate over OL management and competition, especially at left guard.
  • “I think there’s going to be a real competition…somebody’s gotta go win that job in August.” (Jerry Hamilton, 48:10)
• Special Teams Focus: With new transfers at punter and kicker, the crew asks for explicit updates and expectations from Sarkisian.
  • “Both Mason Shipley and Jack Boomies outperformed expectations. Maybe special teams is a little bit of a talk.” (Bobby Burton, 36:46)

4. Key Questions for Coach Sark and Texas

• Injuries & Health: Will the team be fully healthy for camp?
• Speed of the Team: Is this the fastest Texas team under Sarkeesian?
• Penalty Issues: Longhorns' ranking near the bottom nationally in penalties; what’s the plan to fix it?
  • “Texas is 132nd in penalties last season…history will show…the lowest team in that category was Georgia at 39.” (Hank South, 34:41)
• O-line Grading & Expectations: Will this group match the output of the last two years? The consensus is a "B" grade gets Texas to the playoffs.

5. Texas A&M Deep Dive

• Mike Elko’s Candidness: Discusses A&M’s empty trophy case and rivalry urgency.
  • “I show them our trophy case, and it’s empty.” (Mike Elko, 10:11)
• Pressure to Beat Texas: Two consecutive losses to Texas raise stakes for Elko.
  • “Mike Elko needs to beat Texas in College Station.” (Jerry Hamilton, 14:26)
• Roster & Offensive Questions: Talent level is high, but skepticism remains on the O-line and Marcel Reed’s ability to consistently execute under new OC Holman Wiggins.
  • “I’m buying their defense, and I am selling their offense hard.” (Bobby Burton, 21:02)
• Season Projections: Both hosts see A&M potentially as a 9–3 team, on playoff bubble depending heavily on Texas game results.

6. Lane Kiffin/Ole Miss & SEC Landscape

• Lane Kiffin’s Social Media Cleanse: Kiffin abstained from social media at his son’s request to reduce distractions.
  • “It was kind of a Lane Kiffin filibuster…he’s been on a social media cleanse since May 11.” (Hank South, 30:19)
• Ole Miss & LSU’s Challenging Start: Both teams have brutal early schedules; key question is if they can “gel quickly” (Bobby Burton, 33:17; 39:15–40:59).
• SEC Scheduling: Competitive scheduling means every early slip could have playoff implications.

7. Broader NCAA Eligibility and Lawsuits

• 5-for-5 Debate: Ongoing NCAA litigation over eligibility rules; Texas Tech and other fans scrutinize Texas for its participation.
  • “Am I for it? No. Am I going to say, ‘Oh, these guys are wrong for doing it?’ I can’t.” (Jerry Hamilton, 54:36)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Texas & SEC Media Days Atmosphere

• “I see a lot of suitcases lined up today…if Sark and Arch and everybody [had] been day two, I think Radio Row would be a lot more empty now.”
  —Jerry Hamilton, 00:56

On the Texas-A&M Rivalry

• “I show them our trophy case, and it’s empty. And I think they’re all very aware of that.”
  —Mike Elko, 10:11
• “Mike Elko needs to beat Texas in College Station. If he doesn’t, he’s gonna have an A&M fan problem.”
  —Jerry Hamilton, 14:25

On Cole Hudson’s Return

• “It’s found money. Maybe they were…going to be okay without Cole Hudson…only it can be positive at the very worst.”
  —Bobby Burton, 59:59

On Texas O-Line Outlook

• “I think if you could tell me right now, I would say B to B plus.”
  —Jerry Hamilton, 44:56

On Marcel Reed (A&M QB)

• “On all of this, I am buying their defense and I am selling their offense hard. Despite what I think may be the second or third best group of wide receivers in the conference.”
  —Bobby Burton, 21:02

On Penalties & Championship Trends

• “You can’t [have that many penalties]; history will show you…the lowest team in that category was Georgia at 39. Everybody else [champions] has been in the top 20.”
  —Hank South, 34:41

On LSU’s Tough Opening

• “You could start one and three on that schedule.”
  —Jerry Hamilton, 40:45

On Media Day Planning

• “Was Texas being last at media days strategically planned?…Yeah, I think that was done on purpose.”
  —Unidentified Analyst, 69:32

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:22: Start of show, Texas presentation anticipation
• 03:00–04:40: Breaking news – Cole Hudson court ruling and implications
• 10:11: Mike Elko clip on “empty trophy case”
• 12:32: Elko on Texas game significance
• 21:02: Texas A&M talent discussion, skepticism on offense
• 34:41: Texas penalties and what needs to change
• 36:46: Special teams transfer impact for Texas
• 48:10: Reality of competition at Texas left guard
• 54:36: NCAA eligibility lawsuits, personal opinions
• 70:44: Will Texas start faster this year?
• 71:38: Closing remarks and preview of afternoon’s Texas Media Day content

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Listener Takeaways

• Texas’ moment at SEC Media Days is both a branding and football opportunity—watch for Colin Simmons’ candidness and Sarkisian’s responses on health, speed, and penalties.
• Cole Hudson’s return increases competition and stability on the O-line but doesn’t guarantee him a starting spot; the left guard race remains wide open.
• Expect Texas' success ceiling in 2026 to be determined by the O-line grade; a “B” gets them to the playoff.
• A&M: defense should be strong, but their makeshift O-line and uncertainty at QB/play-calling are red flags. Texas rivalry implications are huge for Elko.
• The SEC schedule, particularly for teams like LSU and Ole Miss, will test how quickly new and transfer-heavy rosters can gel.
• NCAA eligibility litigation is ongoing and contentious, with Texas benefiting from the process but not instigating it.
• Key questions for Sarkisian: team start fast, penalty discipline, special teams stability, and true O-line potential.

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Final Notes

• Stay tuned to On Texas Football for breaking updates from the Texas press conference and further SEC Media Day developments.
• For further reading and in-depth recruiting notes, visit ontexasfootball.com.

Transcript

[Mike Elko]

Foreign.

[Bobby Burton]

Day four of SEC media days. I'm Bobby Burton, joined by Jerry Hamilton. This episode of Coffee and Football brought to you by our friends at Von Lane. Jerry, Today's the day we get to hear from the Texas Longhorns head coach Steve Saian. Three key Longhorn players, Arch Manning, Colin Simmons, Trevor Goosby. This is the day we've been waiting for. Had to wait for it four days. I don't know why they did this. Texas is the 16th of 16 schools coming to dance. You think, you think it's to keep us guys like us around?

[Jerry Hamilton]

I, I see a lot of suitcases lined up today, and I think if. If Lane had spoken day one and

[Unidentified Analyst]

Sark and Arch and everybody been day

[Jerry Hamilton]

two, I think Radio Row would be a lot more empty now. Based on a couple of years ago,

[Unidentified Analyst]

I, for one, am sad I have

[Jerry Hamilton]

to leave because we've had some hellacious views all week. It's like everybody's ready to go home. I'm like, wait, wait. Be careful where you're going because we're in Tampa. This is an unbelievable place, but it's going to be fun. Lane Kiffin is just finishing up right now. Then he'll go to the electronic media and, and, and do another little press conference. We're gonna have Hank south come on in about 15 minutes and tell us what he heard from Lane Kiffin this morning, which will be interesting as well, because I hear he's talking about some nil deals with Nike. Texas has the KD Nike deal as well on the Texas side, which has been very beneficial in high school recruiting this thus far on the basketball side for sure. But it's going to be interesting for Sark today in Arch. I think we'll get very standard answers from Arch, Pat.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, yeah, standard.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Very guarded. Collins, Simmons may bring some entertainment. We'll see if John Bianco cycle. Hey, now, slow down, slow down, settle down. We need some fireworks. Summerall and golden gave us a little bit yesterday. That was a good day. But it had been kind of bland up until yesterday when those two guys took the mic. But I think with Sark today, I

[Unidentified Analyst]

think it's, you know, look, I, I

[Jerry Hamilton]

said yesterday on the show, you know, what do you want to hear from him? The number one thing I want to hear from him is everybody's cleared and ready to go for practice. That's all I care about. Are we healthy?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Is the team healthy?

[Jerry Hamilton]

Is everybody go? And then the other thing was, I would love to hear him just come out and say, look, this is the Fastest football team we've had at Texas. I think that would be quite a statement to make considering you've had double digit draft picks on a couple of prior teams. If he came out and said that, I'd be like, oof.

[Unidentified Analyst]

That would be a statement for me.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Because we know how fast a couple of these teams have been in the past. I think they believe it in the building.

[Bobby Burton]

Yes, I think that they, they do believe that. We do have some breaking news to go over that happened yesterday afternoon on Texas football. The first report that Cole Hudson, the former Longhorn who graduated last year and has been in the, the situation with his NCAA lawsuit, has received a temporary restraining order against the ncaa. Now he just waits for the official order to come through from the female judge that they are dealing with. And from there, uh, Cole Hudson will be permitted back to begin football activities with the University of Texas. Uh, big win for Texas. That's looking for setting the floor, so to speak, for that offensive line in 2026. Can't do worse than that. A guy that started 23 games for the Longhorns, he appears set to come back and join the Longhorns as soon as today, actually. Now, obviously they don't begin official workouts until August 5th. That's the first day of fall camp. But he can rejoin and do the morning workouts with the team, etc. Big news there for the Longhorns. And what's more, based on what I'm being told, Jerry, there could be other players that are similarly situated across the state of Texas and the country. Because Colorado defensive lineman Ezra Christensen is also in a similar situation to Cole Hudson. And he has been successful with his litigation thus far against the NCAA and expected back. This could open up a group of players that might be trying to get temporary restraining orders in order to rejoin teams or new teams as soon as August 5th. I mean, this is, this is the craziness that is, if you were in

[Jerry Hamilton]

college football right now, if you're an underdrafted free agent and you didn't think you were guaranteed to make a team, you'd probably take a look at it right now.

[Bobby Burton]

You would if, if you thought you were going to get any nil.

[Jerry Hamilton]

That's right.

[Bobby Burton]

Because the teams themselves right now, maybe 10 tapped out. A lot of schools will be tapped out. From rev. Share perspective or nil. Is Texas one of those teams? We'll have to wait.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Depends on if the players at a position of need.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, yeah, that's, that's a real reality as we talk about this and what we expect from Arch, Trevor Goosby and Colin Simmons. Today you made mention. I want to talk a little bit about this, about Colin Simmons maybe being a. A little bit more of a character.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yes. Right.

[Bobby Burton]

Having a little bit. I don't want to say more of a personality, because they all have a personality. Collins more willing, it seems like, to show it in front of the media.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yes. He's always been that way, even dating back the first time I ever talked to him at Dunkville when he was a young kid, I was like, okay, this guy's. He's. He's. Will speak his mind, so somebody, you know. And I love that about Colin. I. I think know that confidence is in who he is and willing to talk. And, hey, some of the coaches may cringe if it's a little trash talking, but I've always liked that about Colin because I think that's gonna. That's part of who he is. And so I'll be interested. He wasn't here last year. This is his only opportunity at SEC media day. He's going pro after.

[Unidentified Analyst]

I mean, like the Senior bowl guy said, don't.

[Jerry Hamilton]

No, no, no, no. That one's going pro for sure. He said it on. On a video. We did.

[Unidentified Analyst]

So this is Colin's only shot.

[Jerry Hamilton]

This is his final year in college football. We all know it. And I'm interested to see what he has to say. I mean, what are they gonna do, bench him?

[Unidentified Analyst]

What are you gonna do, drop him in coverage? Is it.

[Bobby Burton]

So I want to say this. We're here in Tampa, and it's been a. It's kind of anywhere you look around here, you see celebrities and folks that are coming through being interviewed by various media outlets. This morning, I got a text from Jerry. Jerry showed up over here early, and I've got to tell this story before we get to the first AD break. Jerry said, hurry up, get over here. John Daly is here. Jerry.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Jerry wanted us to interview.

[Jerry Hamilton]

I'm gonna try to get him on there. I would love to get you.

[Bobby Burton]

You would like to interview John Daly. Are you and him of kindred spirits?

[Jerry Hamilton]

No, I don't know about that, but I. One, he's. He's wearing his Arkansas shirt.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah.

[Jerry Hamilton]

I would like to just know what his favorite Texas Arkansas game is.

[Bobby Burton]

I'd like to know, like, when they lost pro.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah, I mean, look, look, if Vince

[Jerry Hamilton]

Young was on the tee box and it shanked eight shots in a row, is John gonna give him advice or just let him just crumble?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Like, as an Arkansas, Texas thing?

[Jerry Hamilton]

I also would like to congratulate him. He beat the snot out of Tiger woods at 95 Open when he won the, when he won the British Open, had the Claire jug. I mean, Tiger was only 18, but he beat him by 15. I'd love to be the same. He beat down. Nobody beat down Tiger before Tiger started beating everybody.

[Bobby Burton]

Does anybody actually remember anything he ever did on a golf course? Or is he all about the off the course, you know, shenanigans that way.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Speak. I mean, look, hey, speaking of a guy that just real.

[Unidentified Analyst]

He is.

[Bobby Burton]

He is very much who he is.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Question if he's genuine or not.

[Bobby Burton]

All right, look, before we get in, we're going to talk a little bit about Texas A and M. They went to the podium yesterday. Not only Mike Elko, the head coach, but also Marcel Reed and a couple of other Aggie players. We'll talk about them here in the next segment. But first we need to say thank you to our sponsor. This Thursday's edition of Coffee and Football, brought to you by friends over at Von Lane Longhorn fans in the Woodlands and North Houston. Listen up. Von Lane just launched a new route between Austin and the Woodlands. And you can book trips right now through October. That means football season is covered. No more white knuckling it down 290. No more fighting for parking. You ride in a first class sled of their seat, connect the starlink, WI Fi, grab a cold drink and show up at the game ready to go. But it's not just for game days. The route is perfect for business travelers heading to Austin for state meetings, government work or the UT campus. And for folks in Austin, it's also a straight shot to the Woodlands for concerts, family visits or business in the area without dealing with that Houston traffic. And here's what you're not paying for on Von Lane. Bag fees, seat assignments, or any of the nickel and dime nonsense the airlines have cooked up. Everything is included. WI Fi snacks, beverages, hot towel service and complimentary meals. On select departures, you board at a private hotel terminal with no TSA and no lines. Von Lane connects Austin, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Plano, the Woodlands, Nashville, Memphis and Atlanta. [e-mail] and enter OTF 26 at checkout for 20 off your first ride. That's OTF 26 at checkout for $20 off your first ride. Von Lane, your private jet on wheels. We really appreciate their ongoing sponsorship with coffee.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Absolutely.

[Bobby Burton]

Good guys there.

[Hank South]

All right.

[Bobby Burton]

Hey, Jerry, I'm gonna ask Matt, our producer this morning to play a Clip of Mike Elko yesterday, he made news for a brief second about talking about his trophy case over in College Station. I want people to get a. Get a. Listen to this real quick. After last year's playoff run, how do you keep this team from becoming satisfied?

[Mike Elko]

I show them our trophy case, and it's empty. And I think they're all very aware of that. And so, you know, I think, you know, listen, we live in a lot of worlds, and so we're obviously happy with the things that we accomplished. We're happy with the direction of our program. But it's also not lost on us that we haven't won the hardware that we're searching for. And so, you know, that gets us into a mindset of growth and getting back to work to go finish this thing a little bit better than we did last year and put ourselves in a better position maybe to compete for

[Bobby Burton]

some trophies after last year's playoff run, I'd say that the Dr. Pepper case behind us has more trophies in it than they announced.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Oh, Bobby. Bobby went there. It'll be empty in about five minutes. It'll look the same.

[Bobby Burton]

You know, I. I was in there for that media availability with Mike Elko, and I thought he was just being candid, like, what is our. What is our emphasis? What is our drive? And I also believe this, and I wrote it yesterday as well. At least he didn't put in a fake trophy.

[Unidentified Analyst]

That's right.

[Bobby Burton]

Or a pretend trophy like his predecessor.

[Jerry Hamilton]

You know, we call that learning from their past mistakes and coming in and saying, hey, I mean, look, what you don't want to do is replicate anything before you at the job. That was Jimbo Fisher. He was there. He lived part of that, right?

[Unidentified Analyst]

I mean, John Sumrall talked about that yesterday.

[Jerry Hamilton]

You come in and you kind of looked at what was done right, what was done wrong, and you. And you kind of evaluate that job when you get there. I. I gotta tell you, I mean, I. Like what else said yesterday. I don't know if they're ever gonna get over the hood. I don't know if 1939 will live forever. None of us know. Odds are at some point they'll win one. Baylor won one in basketball. Who thought that would ever happen? No Baylor, man. I mean, but I. Look, he's one of the guys that's been pretty. Pretty real up there in front of the mic, I thought, in the past few months as well, so give him credit for it.

[Bobby Burton]

We'll get to a couple more things he said. But first, I want to also hit this clip. And so we can kind of have the whole discussion around it. And he talked about the importance of the Texas game as it relates to the entire season. Let's play that clip now, and then we can talk about the entire discussion around Texas A and M yesterday.

[Mike Elko]

No, I don't probably have a day go by without being reminded how important that game is to me, but that's okay. I think that's what's great about college rivalries is the passion that our fan base has for that game and certainly is matched by their fan base for that game as well. I think not only because of the rivalry, but also because of the status of both programs. I think it would be naive to not say that we put a little bit of extra work. Work into preparation for that game because, you know, that game inevitably is going to mean an awful lot. It has for the last two seasons, not just because of the proximity and the rivalry, but because it seems to have playoff and SEC championship implications as well. And so when you put all of that into that game, it certainly makes a little bit of sense to give it some extra preparation.

[Bobby Burton]

Now, the Longhorn certainly top of mind for. For Mike Elko, what you think of his comments there?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Look, I mean, I. What are you going to say when

[Jerry Hamilton]

you've lost two in a row?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yes, look, you're gonna hear it.

[Jerry Hamilton]

It's the expectation that comes to the job. No different than Brett Venables. I do think what's interesting nowadays about these jobs is, Bobby, in the past, if you lost three or four to your rival coach, there's a good chance you were out. Unless you're doing miraculous things now, the playoffs can save you and can buy you more time. Right. So maybe if you lose a rivalry game, but you end up in the playoffs and that. I mean, look, does that help minimals last year? Probably helped rent minimals last year. Right, Bobby? So you get a little more leeway. But at the end of the day, look, the expectation. There is one expectation that's going through the roof this year from A M fans. Mike Elko needs to be Texas and College Station.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, it has to.

[Jerry Hamilton]

If he does it, he's gonna have an A M fan problem. Even if he gets to the first round of playoffs and loses, they're still going to be like, oh, no, no.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

So I. I was speaking with Billy Lucci yesterday, everybody's favorite. And I asked Billy point blank, you know, does Elko have a Texas problem right now? And I say that because he. Steve Sarkeesian, Has a Kirby smart problem. If Elko 2 losses, maybe not a problem. 3 losses is a problem. And I think that, that, that is one of the things that we can discuss because I think Sark may have Elko's number just enough. And we, you know, as I sat back and listened to everything that, that transpired yesterday, not just with elo, Marcel Reed, Marcus Ratliff was here. Damen Sanford, one of their, one of their captains was here as well. It's very interesting how they are opining on this year. It sounds to me, Jerry, like they are. They think that they've at least made a offensive line that should be okay. They pieced together something that should be okay. Not necessarily as good as last year's, which, by the way, couldn't run the ball in the last, last half of the season.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Right. We're done. Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

And so my question to you is, are you buying Texas A M right now or not or is there some kind of nuanced in between level for you? Because there, I will say this, there is some nuanced in between level for me.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah. So I buy their talent level in the program because they're a top five, six nil program. I actually asked Mike Elko the question yesterday in the electronic media session. I said last year before the season, you said you had 10, 11 NFL draft picks. I said you were spot on. So I'm going to ask the question this year, how many guys do you think you have they're going to be drafted?

[Unidentified Analyst]

And he kind of hedged.

[Jerry Hamilton]

He didn't give me a real number, but he said the goal is 8 to 10 every year. Okay. Well then we talked to Billy Lucha. Billy, probably eight to nine guys, maybe not those first, second round guys like they had last year. Four guys going the first two rounds of the draft. I think that seven going the top three rounds of the draft. So I buy their talent level in the program because we got to be real about this. They're one of the top nil programs. They're going to be able to win in high school recruiting. Their meal win in the portal. So they're going to have, they're going to be sitting on that number of 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 draft picks every year or should be if they have the right coach. Now the question becomes the Texas is Holman Wiggins and Marcel Reed. Where is that going to go this year? Year three for Marcel Reed as a starter, but where's that going to go in Holman Wiggins first year as a play caller? Oh, and with A whole new offensive line. I think their wide outs are really good. I think Bethel Roman's really good. Obviously Craver, Isaiah Horton, they talked about Elko, talked about him. The big 50, 50 ball winner they haven't had. I think they got a really sound group wide out. But is the offensive line all those guys for SEC starters that mean they were high level SEC starters?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah, they wouldn't have been released from

[Jerry Hamilton]

their schools if they were high.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, they would have been retained.

[Jerry Hamilton]

So they can be good players put together. But then on top of with the new play caller, what are they going to change offensive play? Where's their run game consistency going to come from? Because they had it with Levy on Moss last year. And then defensively for them, defensive front, I think they're putting a lot on Marco Jones to go be a great player. And maybe they're right. They got Sock out of the portal at one edge. They didn't go after another edge. So they're telling that. That to me is saying, mark, you think Marco Jones is going to be a great player? Are they going to be able to create that same level of disruption on the defensive front?

[Bobby Burton]

So you did, you said all of that. You didn't really answer my question. Are you buying A and M?

[Jerry Hamilton]

I'm buying them to win nine games. From a pure talent perspective, nine games doesn't get you in the playoffs. We had Greg McElroy on yesterday. We'll have that video. And he, he picks A and m to win 10 games for second straight year, which means they're back in the playoff. I don't. Not sure I'm there. I think the schedule is a little tough this year and there's too much of an unknown on offense in some in the key area play caller, quarterback and offensive line.

[Unidentified Analyst]

But I think their talent level will

[Jerry Hamilton]

probably get them the nine wins. I think the A M Texas game is going to matter every single year from here on out. And Elko talked about that yesterday and I think he's spot on. Like if A M is 9 and 2 going into the Texas game next year, say Texas is 10 and one,

[Unidentified Analyst]

that game's got a hell of a lot of meaning.

[Bobby Burton]

No doubt.

[Jerry Hamilton]

I mean, I think the game's gonna have meaning every year because they're talking in IL programs and they're not talent. You can't deny that A M is gonna have enough talent to be competitive.

[Bobby Burton]

So 9 and 3 is kind of buying them because I think, I think it's eight. Yeah, is the number that I came up with. But that's okay. I mean, look, here's the two. The two phases that I look at. There's two primary phases of football act, you know, offensive defense. I am buying their defense. So I actually think they went out and got some good players in the portal to kind of backfill some spots they needed at linebacker, at edge, defensive tackle especially. So I. And I thought. I think that Elko believes that this is their best secondary and he's a defensive coach.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Okay.

[Bobby Burton]

Mix all of that together. I am buying their defense to a level. Is it a great defense? I would bet that it's not going to be great.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Be great.

[Bobby Burton]

Okay. The other side of the ball is what I'm not buying, no matter how many times they try to tell me I should.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

And that includes Marcel Reed. That includes Mike Elko. That includes Billy Luchi. Look, that offense line is makeshift at best, and Marcel Reed still doesn't know who he is as a quarterback, in my opinion. Is he a passer? Is he a runner? Can he run? I mean, we saw him walking around here yesterday. He is still thin.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Oh, he looks like he's built like a slot wider.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, he's. He's thinner than Colt McCoy.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah. Just to give you an idea, £185. Yeah.

[Hank South]

Yeah.

[Jerry Hamilton]

I mean, with nice shoes on. With his $5,000 shoes on. This. Yeah, he's 180.

[Bobby Burton]

My poor point being, on all of this, I am buying their defense and I am selling their offense hard. Despite what I think may be the second or third best group of wide receivers in the conference.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Here's the one thing I'll say. If you look at their schedule, they had better. They better be nine and one after the. After the Tennessee game, because they play at Oklahoma on the 21st. Short week touches at home.

[Bobby Burton]

They better.

[Jerry Hamilton]

If they want to be in the playoff, for sure, they're going to need to be 9 and 1 because they will not win both of those games. If they have to win both of those games to get in, I think they're in trouble. Yeah.

[Unidentified Analyst]

So A and M's gonna have to

[Jerry Hamilton]

be 9 and 1 going in the last two.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, they've got to beat LSU. They've got to beat LSU on. On the road. But that game with lsu, unlike Texas, which plays them later than the year, they. They get LSU early. I think that'll be a big. They go to Alabama, then they have Texas at home, Carolina.

[Jerry Hamilton]

That's a stumble game for a team.

[Bobby Burton]

They almost stumbled against them last year

[Jerry Hamilton]

and they got smoked two years ago.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah.

[Jerry Hamilton]

South Carolina to run the football, but they better be 9 and 1 going in the last two. Because if you said your last two games are at Oklahoma, in Texas, at home, you're going to be like, we're gonna probably go one and one in those two.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Analyst]

So you better be nine and one

[Jerry Hamilton]

going in the last two. That's what I would say for A

[Bobby Burton]

M. At the very least, at this point, in my opinion. What you think of Marcel Reed. Let's. Let's turn this a little bit and talk a little bit about him. Nice young man.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah. You know, kid. Great kid. I mean.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, all that stuff. Did you like his answers as it related to what he worked on this summer? Because one of the questions came up, like, why did you. Why were you so good against LSU but not against other teams? His answer was his legs. And that's kind of the issue. I mean, are they. You can't run him because he's so. I don't. Frail is not the right word for a guy like that. But his build just doesn't lean into the ability to run the ball 12 weeks in a row. It just doesn't. Especially not in the sec, where you're going to get one more conference game this year.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah, no, I totally agree.

[Jerry Hamilton]

And I. Look, I. In talking to a couple of SEC coordinators or those level guys in the off season, they're like, get him off the first read, and we feel good about slowing down, laying him off.

[Unidentified Analyst]

And so are they going to put

[Jerry Hamilton]

him in harm's way? To your point? They're gonna, hey, what did Elko say? What did Marcel reap? We're gonna play him on the move more. Well, the more you play it. So that sounds good in theory. Right.

[Unidentified Analyst]

And I'm not saying they're wrong, but

[Jerry Hamilton]

the more he's playing on the move, the higher percentages he's just going to take off on top of football.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Because if you play him on the move, you're essentially cutting off half the field. You know, if you roll. If you roll him on a short waggle. Right.

[Unidentified Analyst]

He has enough experience.

[Jerry Hamilton]

If he's throwing back across his body

[Unidentified Analyst]

to the left side of the football

[Jerry Hamilton]

field, he knows that's a bad play. So if you. If you cut down the field into 2/3 or half the field, then what

[Unidentified Analyst]

are you going to do?

[Jerry Hamilton]

If option one. If what? Read one or two is not open, you're gonna. You're gonna use your legs.

[Unidentified Analyst]

So I think there's an element of

[Jerry Hamilton]

that, that they could put him more in harm's. Way. And if they do, then they are definitely bringing injury play with him because, look, these are big bodies that are falling on these big bodies that are hitting. You're running in the big bottles just by being on the field. So he's definitely more prone to injury the more he's on the move.

[Bobby Burton]

I would add this, and I didn't bring it up when my. When I kind of dismissed their offense somewhat. I should add the. Holman Wiggins, higher. Listening to Mike Elko yesterday, try to explain why he made that higher. I listened intently. I still don't understand the hire. It almost felt like, well, we thought, you know, he's been a good coach. And I looked around and sometimes the grass isn't always greener. And I thought he had done a good job here for us. And when you have a blank checkbook, that's not. That is not. Jerry, The. That. That's not the confidence. I want. I want you to go hire somebody like a Will Musch.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

Frankly, that. That's going to bring some street cred to your opposite side of the ball. When you're a defensive coach, you want a big, strong offensive coordinator. When you're an offensive coach, you want a strong defense coordinator. I'm not buying that aspect either. I think that's. That's plain and simple.

[Jerry Hamilton]

By the way, is this better? Mic check, the chat for the chat. Everybody's saying it's too low, so I'm trying not to eat the fur off.

[Bobby Burton]

I think.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Mike check. Are we a little better here? Because we're about to bring Hank south in to talk about what Lane Kiffin had to say here in a couple of minutes. Bob?

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, we will. Holman Wiggins, though, that. That hire, I think they hired him. They hired him, Jerry, and then he got a pay raise and an extension. That's confidence in your coach. The last time a big extension went out to Texas A M, they ended up paying $75 million to Jimbo Fish. Yeah, I'm not so sure that's the way things need to go. But we're gonna get Hank south in here. He listened to Lane Kiffin this morning. We'll talk a little bit about that. Talk a little bit with Hank, also about what he wants to hear as it relates to Jerry Texas coming in today and talking. We'll all be there for that. But first, let's talk about our friends over at Prize Fix. You guys know we're always looking for ways to make watching games a little more fun, and that's exactly why we love Prize Picks It's America's number one sports pick app and honestly it's about as simple as it gets for player Picks. All you do is choose more or less on a few players stats and lock in your lineup. That's it. And if you're someone who likes picking teams instead of individual players, Prize Picks has you covered there too. You can now pick the winner, the spread or the total on games in even fights. Prize Picks is available in most states including Texas, California and Florida. So chances are you can jump in today. And one of my favorite features is that you can find follow users on the app. If you like the picks they're they're making, you can tell tail them with one click and you can follow your friends picks too. Now here's the best part. If you've never tried Price Picks before, play your first five dollar lineup and if you win you'll get a 150 in bonus lineups. Just make sure you use code HMA when you sign up. They actually just updated the offer so there's never been a better time to get started. Download the prizepix app today. Today use code HMA, play the first five dollar lineup and if you win you'll get 150 in bonus lineups. That's price picks code HMA. Good luck and as always, play smart. Play responsibly. Play Prize Picks Jerry Tell folks about Ridge Wallet. My favorite.

[Unidentified Analyst]

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[Bobby Burton]

All right, it looks like maybe the mic is broke. Is that what the possibility problem is here or is it turned off? You're going to the Dr. Pepper account and get that done. You want to change mics, just use the same mic. Do that. Hank, how you doing, buddy?

[Jerry Hamilton]

Hello. Good morning. Hey.

[Bobby Burton]

I. We were talking a few minutes ago about you going to see our friend Lane Kiffin up at the. Speaking at the deus earlier. What did he have to say this morning?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah, he had a lot to say.

[Hank South]

I would say it was kind of a Elaine Kiffin filibuster in a way.

[Jerry Hamilton]

He.

[Hank South]

Because he. He spoke and then he took four questions and. And he was done.

[Bobby Burton]

But

[Unidentified Analyst]

kind of what I expected Lane

[Jerry Hamilton]

Kiffin to be, it was kind of

[Hank South]

a new Lane Kiffin. Greg Sankey introduced him by saying he's been on a social media cleanse since May 11 at the request of his son. And then Lane Kiffin talked about that, saying, you know, he's. He went a step further and just deleted everything from his phone to just eliminate distractions. And, and now he can kind of see how addicted people are to social media. So that was a big part of

[Unidentified Analyst]

what he talked about.

[Hank South]

He talked about the SEC 9 game schedule. He was asked about the vanity. Yeah, it didn't feel like he talked for long, but then you. You realized it when you only took four questions.

[Bobby Burton]

So this is the question I have for you. Get knowing what you know of Lane Kiffin. It's not your first time you've seen him speak. What do you think he thought of his team heading into 2026? Is that working, man? What do you think? Going to keep going,

[Unidentified Analyst]

talking to them

[Bobby Burton]

about it and listening to that. That feels like it's going to be a big. A big moment in the sec. The question I have is, does he feel like he's going to be able to start off so quickly? Because not only does he go to. To Ole Miss, he also has a.

[Jerry Hamilton]

That we just talked about.

[Bobby Burton]

Are they going to be ready early enough? Did anybody ask him about that?

[Jerry Hamilton]

Nobody asked him about that.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, you're good.

[Hank South]

Nobody asked him about that. And I'm sorry.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Nobody really asked him about new formal, missed lsu.

[Hank South]

He didn't really address it. He kind of Touched on it, you know, vaguely.

[Bobby Burton]

But they're gonna have you ready.

[Hank South]

Like you mentioned, they start with Clemson. I think they have the players to compete with anybody in the country.

[Unidentified Analyst]

And then as he was talking, I

[Hank South]

was looking, I, you know, that back half, even before Texas on November 14,

[Bobby Burton]

they have Alabama, believe they play at

[Hank South]

Auburn the week before Alabama and they have Tennessee. So they have a pretty pretty, you know, treacherous back half of the schedule. But the way he spoke about the team, obviously they have leadership from the defense. With Weeks, the linebacker they brought.

[Jerry Hamilton]

He had a chance to go to the NFL.

[Hank South]

They have a pretty strong secondary, really good interior defensive line, line.

[Jerry Hamilton]

So we'll know quickly.

[Hank South]

They open with Clemson, but it seems like he's pretty excited and believes they can win now this season.

[Bobby Burton]

Now LSU is going to be one of those teams Texas plays later in the year. We'll have to see how they kind of gel over the length of the season. All right, let's move forward to the Longhorns. Talk a little Longhorn football here. We talked about it last night, you and I, privately. What are you wanting to hear from Texas coach Steve Sarkeesian or any of the players that we'll get to talk to later today?

[Hank South]

Yeah, I, you know, with Sark and this kind of came to mind yesterday, listening to Kaylin and board Alabama, I'm really curious to see how they are addressing fixing the penalty issues. Texas is 132nd penalties last season. You can't, you know, history will show you the last five years, the lowest team, and that category was Georgia at 39. Everybody else has been in the top 20 to win the national championship. I asked all the Alabama players about it. They talked about putting an emphasis on that in the off season because Alabama went from 120, 123 to 17 in one offseason. They talked about the emphasis they put on it and doing things properly, even when you're tired. So they gave some interesting answers. But I'm curious to see Sark's thoughts on that, how they're, you know, you know, they're, that, that's, that's something. They're talking about this off.

[Bobby Burton]

When you finish in the 130s, you're. You need improvement.

[Hank South]

Yes, absolutely. So I'd like to hear about that. I'd like to hear about the, you know, the, the, the, the wide receiver, quarterback connection with arch and receivers.

[Jerry Hamilton]

I would think it's, it's pretty strong

[Hank South]

now as we've seen them work out together in different areas throughout the country this summer. Going to New Orleans. See, you know, how, how that bond is going. And then, you know, I'm curious about, you know, the offensive line as well.

[Jerry Hamilton]

I mean, that's a lot of the,

[Hank South]

the talk Hudson stuff now. And I would like to hear kind of his thoughts on where that group stands. Adding in Lauren Seymour this summer and some of the younger guys coming up.

[Bobby Burton]

He's a, he's been asked repeatedly about the influence of adding Will Musan. I mean, I don't know that there's anything more that we can ask about that. Yeah, that's one of the things like. And he's been fairly open from the outset about it. So I, I'm, I'm with you. I'm gonna, I'm gonna give a nod to, to Jerry Hamilton here and I. The one thing that we haven't discussed enough on this channel or period are special teams. Ryan Niblett won a couple games for Texas or at least contributed heavily to winning a couple games for Texas. We haven't heard much about Matt Jumento, the punter from Florida State or Gianni Spedic, the kicker from Memphis. Maybe that's a focus that we ask

[Jerry Hamilton]

him about, like what's her.

[Bobby Burton]

What are his expectations? Because both of those Mason Shipley and Jack Boomies, to both of them outperformed expectations. Jack Boo Meester, by the way, I don't know if y' all saw this or not. Just got a three year deal from the San Francisco 49ers, so congratulations to the former Texas punter. But maybe special teams is a little bit of a talk and you know, is who's going to be returning kicks, that kind of stuff. Overall though, we know this Texas team fairly well. I don't know that Sark's going to be particularly revealing today. Jerry and I were talking about it earlier. We think Colin Simmons, we, we may, we may need to follow Colin because of all the guys here, he may be the one most likely to say something that we, we get out of it.

[Hank South]

To Colin's credit, I feel like he goes into media availabilities. He wants to give you something.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, yeah. Which I appreciate.

[Hank South]

We appreciate. He's always very candid, transparent as he can be. Remember before the Ohio State game last season, I asked him because Ohio State named Julian saying their starter prior to the week one, he just, he just posted on his Instagram a screenshot of Julian saying that's all. And I was like, hey, what was that about? And he goes, I'm just glad I have somebody I can sack now or something to that Extent. So he always gives you something good after games. He was great. Later in the season, as he got going, his confidence got up. So, yeah, I'm absolutely excited to hear about Colin and kind of hear what he thinks about these young. We hear so much about Richard Wesley. You know, obviously we've heard about Xena and Zolo throughout the off season. I'm curious to hear his thoughts on those guys and kind of their progression on the program.

[Bobby Burton]

Look, here's the reality of it. We'll see what they say this afternoon. You'll be there as will C.J. jeff, Howe, Jerry, myself will all be in there listening and we'll be bringing it to you. You guys here at on Texas Football. Hank, thanks so much. Managing editor of ontex football.com Hank south, thanks for joining us. Let's, let's have Jerry come on back in here. We can change the name on the screen. He's got his Dr. Pepper in hand.

[Unidentified Analyst]

What the people ask for, they.

[Bobby Burton]

They ask for doctor. They have all kinds of zero sugar.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Hold on, let me, let me move these basketball hands. Zero sugar.

[Bobby Burton]

Is that for your fiance's edification? She need to know you're going zero sugar at this point. All right. Hey, Jerry, you heard what Hank was talking about there about the Longhorns, and you also heard the part about Lane Kiffin. Anything you want to comment on on either of those?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah, no, I. Look, I think LSU's, their schedule early on is really tough. And so my question with that is that's going to be a challenge of how quickly can you really bring a talented team together? I mean, we all talk, we in the off season, all we talk about

[Jerry Hamilton]

the talent on all these teams, talent

[Unidentified Analyst]

on this team, towel on that team. But Lane's got a heck of a challenge because when you, when you start pretty much over, you got Coach Baker back and you got some, both corners back who are really good.

[Jerry Hamilton]

You got some pieces back, but still,

[Unidentified Analyst]

you have to bring a team together right out of the gate with this schedule.

[Jerry Hamilton]

I mean, you get Clemson. I know it's a home game, but

[Unidentified Analyst]

the one thing Clemson has, one advantage Clemson has dabble has over Lane in

[Jerry Hamilton]

this game is continuity.

[Unidentified Analyst]

I mean, that. Does he have enough?

[Jerry Hamilton]

He's not as talented as they used to be.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Clemson, clearly, but he's still got continuity. And how good can, how good is LSU going to be out of the gate? You know, look, Sam Levitt's healthy.

[Jerry Hamilton]

He's been dunking the football and basketball

[Unidentified Analyst]

goals all summer on the, on the field, goal post all Summer, he's clearly healthy. But how good are they actually going

[Jerry Hamilton]

to be out of the gate?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Because they have to be really good. Look at the first five games they play.

[Bobby Burton]

They.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Look, this is not, this is not one of those, this is not a,

[Jerry Hamilton]

a schedule where you get to come

[Unidentified Analyst]

out and play three cupcakes and get

[Jerry Hamilton]

warmed up for SEC play.

[Unidentified Analyst]

You got Clemson right out of the gate and after that. I mean, you talked about the schedule, Bobby. It's. They got Lotte, but then they go to Old Miss.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Then they have Texas A and M.

[Unidentified Analyst]

You could start one and three on that schedule.

[Jerry Hamilton]

If you lose the opener, you can

[Unidentified Analyst]

definitely start 2 and 2 and the

[Jerry Hamilton]

fans are already going to start to hate you a little bit in that.

[Unidentified Analyst]

So how he's got some pressure on

[Jerry Hamilton]

him to bring the team together and

[Unidentified Analyst]

be good out of the gate, I mean, that is tough to do.

[Bobby Burton]

I, I agree with that. And that's one of the things I've been saying is he has to start quickly if he wants to get into the playoffs this year because he has that brutal early schedule. What about your questions for Sark today? And then after this we're gonna get. We got a bunch of questions loaded up in the chat. But your thoughts on what you want to hear from Steve Sarkeesian and or one of the Texas players today?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah, look, I, I definitely what Hank said, I want to hear that. I want to hear what calls Colin Simmons says about a young guy like Richard Wesley. I've heard too much behind the scenes. This guy has a chance to be a really, really good football player at Texas.

[Jerry Hamilton]

I want to hear that.

[Unidentified Analyst]

But you brought up something I definitely want to hear from Sark is kicking and punting situation. Where does, where does he think that. Where does he think that is? Is there a punting competition going into August camp? I mean, is there a competition that at that job? I think that's very important because I've talked about all season. I know people. Yeah, you talked about special teams too much. But I really think Gianni's better because there's going to be a couple of games come down to his right foot. I mean it happened last year. It's going to happen again on the schedule Texas is playing. He is going to trot out onto

[Bobby Burton]

the field with a make or break

[Jerry Hamilton]

kick once or twice this year for this team.

[Unidentified Analyst]

And where does Sark believe this the kicking position is?

[Jerry Hamilton]

Where does he believe Spadic is.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Is there going to be a competition at Hunter? Because you lost two really good ones last year and that's big for me to hear from Sark. And then, you know, look, I think, I think one, I think what the fans want to hear is the obvious. What's he going to say about the offensive line?

[Jerry Hamilton]

What's he going to say when asked

[Unidentified Analyst]

about is there a competition at left guard?

[Jerry Hamilton]

What's going on there?

[Unidentified Analyst]

How does he feel this offensive line compares? Like one question I would might we want to ask Sark is and I have the ability to talent wise, is this year's offensive line. Can it be what 24 and 23 offensive lines were? Because no matter what we, you know how we talked about how that line

[Jerry Hamilton]

played, four guys got drafted off that offensive line.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Does he believe he has that talent

[Jerry Hamilton]

level on this year's offensive line?

[Unidentified Analyst]

But that, I mean that's a big deal because we just talked, we were just talking about A M. How they're putting their, their offensive line together out of the portal. Okay.

[Jerry Hamilton]

With Sark, the question is, do you

[Unidentified Analyst]

feel like the offensive line, your start, potential starting offensive line is on par with 24 and 23 and if he says yes, that's what you want?

[Bobby Burton]

What did you give the in that year? This is my point. Whenever I talk about these is expectations,

[Unidentified Analyst]

a lot of people are saying, oh

[Bobby Burton]

well, we need to dominate at the offensive line. This, this offensive line's not going to dominate, so stop it.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

And you know, like I try to tell people you can want that.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

But that's not a reasonable expectation with this group. It's a reasonable expectation that they at least stalemate are better than last year in my opinion. Or two years ago, three years ago, whatever the case may be. But in, in all honesty, are you expecting, expecting a B plus a B minus a C, a D? I mean my, my point is this offensive line at the end of the year, if we grade them a B, Texas is in the playoffs for sure.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

Okay. That, that's just the way it's going to be. I think. What, what are your reasonable expectations for that?

[Unidentified Analyst]

I watched Clemson win two national championships

[Jerry Hamilton]

with what people would call B B

[Unidentified Analyst]

plus, B minus offensive lines. They didn't have a first round draft

[Jerry Hamilton]

pick on the offensive line.

[Unidentified Analyst]

They didn't have even a second round draft.

[Bobby Burton]

What do you want the grade to be?

[Unidentified Analyst]

I, I think if you, if you could tell me right now, I would

[Jerry Hamilton]

say be to B plus.

[Unidentified Analyst]

I mean, look, I'm not going to set. I, I don't think that's a necessarily an A, A position. But I also think it's this. I, I do Also think it's this Bobby. I think it's a wide zone run scheme. So you're not this scheme is not

[Jerry Hamilton]

traditionally what people have won with at the highest level in the sec.

[Unidentified Analyst]

So I think so I don't want

[Jerry Hamilton]

to put it all just on players

[Unidentified Analyst]

but what I will say about the offensive I think it needs to be a solid beat because I think that's what Clemson had. Clemson had tremendous they were really good at quarterback.

[Jerry Hamilton]

They were great at skill positions. They're really good on defense. Offensive line was not the strength of those teams but you have to be.

[Unidentified Analyst]

But you have to be good enough.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Analyst]

To maximize all those talented skilled players

[Bobby Burton]

and your quarterbacks Trevor Lawrence, Trevor ETN Dusty the the Hunter Renfro y that group. Yeah I, I, I can see that. So all right, we're going to go to break here for one second. Have you talk about Hayes City but I also want to repeat this because a lot of people missed it at the outset of the show. Cole Hudson, the offensive lineman for Texas received a temporary restraining order yesterday afternoon. They're writing it up today and it's going to be presented by the judge and in Texas will then receive that from Cole and his is a representation and then immediately Cole Hudson, the former left guard, starting left guard, former starting center at the University of Texas last year will be can begin or re begin activities, football activities with the University of Texas. That's big news because as we talk about the offensive line we think that that sets the floor for the offensive line and frankly that offensive line is maybe what sets the floor as well as the ceiling for Texas in 2026. All right Jerry, if you don't mind, tell folks about our friends over at Hay City Store.

[Jerry Hamilton]

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[Unidentified Analyst]

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[Jerry Hamilton]

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[Unidentified Analyst]

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[Jerry Hamilton]

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[Unidentified Analyst]

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[Jerry Hamilton]

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[Unidentified Analyst]

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[Jerry Hamilton]

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[Bobby Burton]

All right, Jerry, let's see if we can get back in here and get going. Got a few questions to get to this today. Let's go to the chat right now and figure those out. Start with this one from Texas. Blake. Are they expecting Cole Hudson to actually start? Don't love that idea. I don't know that they have definitive expectations.

[Jerry Hamilton]

They just want to get back in

[Bobby Burton]

and see what they at.

[Unidentified Analyst]

I look I I posted on on te

[Jerry Hamilton]

some team notes and I think there's a been a consensus among fans that oh Lawrence Seymour's just going to walk in and be destroyed and left guard.

[Bobby Burton]

I think there is a real true

[Jerry Hamilton]

competition not a fluff. A fluff competition for me was when

[Bobby Burton]

Quinn came in and it was a

[Jerry Hamilton]

competition was between him and Hudson Clark. That wasn't really a competition. They were trying to keep Hudson transfer and Quinn is going to be the starting quarterback. In my opinion this is not a bluff competition. This going to be a real competition. Lawrence senior wasn't in for script. Basically there's an unknown for him still. He has to go do it in August. I think there's going to be a real competition at left guard and I think. I think if Texas had a mature buyer starter I'm not sure they have be taken the same approach with Cole Hutch on this.

[Bobby Burton]

I agree with that.

[Unidentified Analyst]

I mean so I think it's a

[Jerry Hamilton]

it's going to be a real competition. Somebody's go got to go got to go win the job in August. I think there's going to be three or four bodies out there who are trying to win that job and I do not think they have a

[Hank South]

good.

[Jerry Hamilton]

That's a good.

[Bobby Burton]

That's good. Jason comes back and starts. I think we need to be more

[Jerry Hamilton]

concerned about the O line.

[Bobby Burton]

Gold's great kid but he was not good last year and there's never been a plus player. There are elements of truth in there.

[Jerry Hamilton]

At some level I'm most concerned not

[Bobby Burton]

necessarily with the idea that he is keep talking not only that he is in this scenario jury where he's coming back.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Is he ready to come back based on not being in the football facility

[Bobby Burton]

at Texas now he had been working out with various pro teams etc keep himself prepared but even Jeff and I Jeff and I were talking about it even so that can be very difficult for him to be ready to go.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah, the same thing we talked about

[Jerry Hamilton]

before Seymour is

[Unidentified Analyst]

you can't you know

[Jerry Hamilton]

in Miami finishing up school online he was working out but you can't replicate A college program when you're a bigger

[Unidentified Analyst]

guy, £320, you can't replicate. You cannot replicate working out with a college strength and conditioning program. You just can't. You can think you're in pretty good shape, but they know at the end of the day, Lawrence Seymour see more new coming in. You really wasn't in football shape is how long will it take Cole Hudson to get back into football shape? There's a process with that, and so we'll see what happens there. But look, I think, I think it's going to be an interesting competition at left guard. The other thing I kind of look at at left guard, Bobby, is, you know, does Jordan Coleman work out any left guard in August? Like, I, I, I think that's an open competition and Lawrence Seymour's done a good job changing his body. I'm not changing his body. Getting in the football shape since he's been in Austin is what I would say. Cole Hudson's got that in front of him again a little bit. It does take a little work and I'll be interested. Jaden Chapman obviously will probably roll out with the ones the first practice in August at left guard, and I'm interested to see if does Jordan Coleman get any reps there. How many people are involved in this competition at the end of the day?

[Jerry Hamilton]

Up.

[Bobby Burton]

All right, let's take a different tack because I, I put this super chat up from Horns truth on here, and rather than talk specifically about Cole, let's take the, the back end of this conversation. We can't be hypocritical. He had his time already. Is Texas. Or are we being hypocritical here saying, hey, he's coming back. Is that hypocritical? Because I, I, by the way, I, I reported this news yesterday, and my Twitter feed was flooded by Texas Tech guys going, oh, this is the same thing. Y' all are just trying to bend the rules. Etc.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Well, first of all, Steve Sarkeesian wasn't

[Bobby Burton]

out there saying, you know, we're gonna break the rules to get this guy back or sue the world. I mean, neither was the, the president or the chairman of the board of the university. I think it's a, definitely a different scenario than Brendan Sorsby. Yeah, but is it hypocritical somewhat of Texas to be. They're not promoting it. What do you think?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah, well, I want to address the tech thing. First of all. The one thing I've learned through the whole Sourcebee thing is that's the dumbest fan base in America. I'd have to go to another country to find competition for them. I mean the justification on Sourceby and the way they go after anybody that is anti source because he gambled on his own team's unbelievable. Dumbest fan base in America. All right, to that point, to that point. Easily like non negotiable. To the, to the other point, I

[Bobby Burton]

always thought it was the Aggies.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Texas Tech's like eclipsed it all. But look on I will say this. I've been upfront about this and it has nothing to do with Cole Hudson, nothing to do with Kendall Weaver, nothing to do with Jordan Pope, guys that played at Texas. I'm against this. I, I, I, I, I just don't, I don't like that the injunctions have been filed. I love the 5 for 5. The timing of it was really bad, which gives these kids the opportunity to

[Bobby Burton]

go get the 2022 class, right?

[Unidentified Analyst]

So I don't like it. I'm going to be honest.

[Jerry Hamilton]

I'm not in favor of it.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Doesn't mean I don't like Cole Hudson or Jordan Pope or Kendall Weaver and they're not coming back to Texas. But I mean any of these guys are going to play anywhere. But what I will say is I'm also not going to begrudge them their opportunity for their opportunity because the timing of this allowed for this opportunity for them. And sometimes the timing is, is tough to control. But I'm not going to begrudge these guys for trying to get the extra year. All they've seen is everybody getting extra years for the last two or three years in college athletics. And I think the five, the five years to play is going to be great for college sports. But there's always going to be those bumps that come with that when that rule comes into place because it just wasn't good timing. So am I for it?

[Jerry Hamilton]

No.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Do, am I going to say, oh, these guys are wrong for doing it? I can't. That's where you get hypocritical. Even if you don't agree that these guys should be able to get the extra year necessarily. But for the Texas Tech fan base, don't ever try to say that's the same as you guys supporting a guy who gamble on his own team and a coach that supported that. Give me a break.

[Bobby Burton]

So I'm going to tie this in a little bit to what Greg Sankey talked about. Actually, Jerry, Greg Sanke, the Commissioner of the SEC, he said that the implementation of the 5 for 5 is exactly why the SEC could have done this better than the NCAA itself. And one of the reasons why self governance actually in his opinion might work. He goes because we never would have done it this way. Yeah, we just, I mean, of course you give people the five for five, right? So I think that, you know, my, my viewpoint on this is Cole Hudson is not doing anything anybody else didn't do or someone else didn't do.

[Unidentified Analyst]

There's going to be more guys do it coming up in the next week or two.

[Bobby Burton]

Absolutely going to be more is what we're hearing. And it could potentially affect the Longhorns as well as anybody else, by the way. So we'll, we'll see what that means. But my point, the larger point, I guess Jerry, is I don't see the comparison between the two. I see this more like those basketball players that there were 30 of them that filed suit and you know, it's not like Cole Hudson is asking for junior college years not to count. It's a true five for five and only the 2022 class was affected by it.

[Unidentified Analyst]

I'm interested to see if we're going to have anybody off a NFL reserve type of situation try to make a move in the next couple weeks. I think we are.

[Bobby Burton]

Let's turn our attention now to the quarterbacks that talked yesterday. Two of them, Marcel Reed obviously from Texas A and M. Trinidad Chamblas from Old Miss. Impressive young man. Watching the two QBs from interviews from yesterday, Rocky P. Says, I saw a stark difference. Reed's confidence seemed forced. Chambas was very much like his play style, calm, confident and smooth as it should be. He's. I think that if I would have more confidence if I'm TR dead Chamblas coming back, Marcel Reed, I mean, look,

[Unidentified Analyst]

Trinidad Chambliss, if he. And obviously he didn't lack any confidence in himself making the move to Ole Miss than going out winning that job and given the opportunity. But if he had any self doubt early on when he took the ball at Ole Miss, that went away. He proved to have a clutch gene and he proved to be able to get the guy that made the big plays at the big moments for his team. And that is the difference. Look, I mean we can say what we want about Marcel Rudy. What does he need to improve on? You know, where can he improve as a quarterback? But there's a big difference between those two guys as players right now. One should have high sky, high confidence. He almost delivered Ole Miss to a national championship game after the coach left. I mean that guy's proven that the Clutch Gene. He made big plays on the biggest stage of his career and never thought he'd be there. Two years ago, he was playing D2 football. He never thought he was going to be playing in a national semifinal game. And then he delivered. Reed has not delivered. So there should be a clear difference in confidence and there's a total difference in those quarterbacks. And that's, you know, that's the step that all these guys. Everybody's looking up at Trinidad, Chambliss in the SEC right now. Bobby Arch, Stockton, you name it. They're all looking up at Trinidad, Chambliss this year. Who's going to be the guy to come up and deliver in those big moments in those big games like Trinidad Chambers did last year. Well, so that's why Greg McElroy said yesterday he says he's the best quarterback in the SEC starting the season. There's no doubt about that. Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

I mean, that's what I've been saying. Why I'm, you know, you have him and Kiwan Lacey together. I've been mentioning Ole Miss for a while. The thing I would say about Marcel Reed when I say that, why would he have confidence? Think of his last two games.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

He's.02 in his last two games and put in really poor performances in both.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

I mean, how do you have confidence

[Unidentified Analyst]

coming back off that the offense didn't score in a playoff game? It's like talk to have confidence. Last time you stick to field when you couldn't move the football.

[Bobby Burton]

That's what I'm getting at.

[Unidentified Analyst]

And you're under duress the whole time.

[Bobby Burton]

Texas on my mind. Going back to Cole Hudson. Hudson is Exhibit 2000 as to how Texas has completed completely mismanaged OL recruiting and portal. They shouldn't be in this position. Unacceptable. How is it look. How is it exhibit 2000 when you're getting. When it's found money? Maybe they were. They're going to be okay without Cole Hudson, Texas on my mind. You're jumping the gun to say that this is an exhibit of a negative reaction when only it can be positive at the very worst. I don't understand how it's an exhibit that they mismanaged the O line. Can you explain that? Why would it be an exhibit that they mismanaged it? Because they're taking him back. Well, anybody in the country right now would take a guy that has 48 games played.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

Back on their roster.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

Period.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

At any position.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah.

[Bobby Burton]

O line, safety, quarterback. They're taking him back. Doesn't mean he's going to start.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Doesn't mean he's going to start.

[Bobby Burton]

As we just went over that an exhibit.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Look, I mean, here, here's the way I look at it. I don't, I don't. Thank you for the super chat. Don't, don't necessarily agree with it. Conor Robertson's going into his first year starting at center.

[Bobby Burton]

Full year.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Full year. You would take Cole Hudson back to be the backup center as an emergency guy who started games at center if you're in Texas position. No matter what. To your point, Bobby, no matter what. I mean, I think Jackson Christian is going to be a really good player. Texas really likes Jackson. Jackson Christian. If Cole Hudson was a backup guard and center and Connor Robertson got hurt in the second quarter of the Ohio State game, wouldn't you be glad you had Cole Hudson back at least to come into that game? Would you want to go to a guy that's never snapped in a game before at that point? I wouldn't.

[Bobby Burton]

Just me switching back over to A M for a minute. Little Mike Elko talk with Holman Wiggins from Juan Garza. There were rumors that Elko didn't want to lose Wiggins to another program. That's why he was elevated to oc. I heard those same rumors. Doesn't mean the rumors are true. But I, I, I couldn't help but wonder, listening to Elko yesterday, how he arrived at Holman Wiggins because it felt like circular logic to me. You have an empty checkbook or a blank checkbook. Not an empty one. A blank checkbook to go hire whoever you want as offensive coordinator and you decide to elevate a guy that hasn't called place.

[Unidentified Analyst]

This is one of those, this is a, this is a situation where you have to be right and you're making have to be right because the expectations in the program have gone to another level. Have to be right.

[Bobby Burton]

Man.

[Unidentified Analyst]

A lot of, hey, these guys, these guys work under intense pressure that's working under intense pressure with A M fan base because I guarantee you guys in the chat probably have friends that are A M fans that say, man, we're not sure about this.

[Bobby Burton]

This offense sputters against Arizona State.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yep.

[Bobby Burton]

And at Cow Field.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yep.

[Bobby Burton]

They're going to be, they're going to be going and tugging on each other, say, hey, this ain't good.

[Unidentified Analyst]

If he ends up hitting it out of the park on this, then you just tip, you tip your hat.

[Bobby Burton]

Do you really think he could hit it out of the park, though?

[Unidentified Analyst]

It's not like Me, to me, hitting out of the park would be actually getting the back in the playoff and winning a playoff game with a guy who's never called plays before with the expectations in the program now, not winning a title. I'm just saying, like, wouldn't that be kind of hitting it out of the park?

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, I guess.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Make the playoffs the second straight year, then win the game in the playoffs. Even if you lose the next round with a guy that people question whether you should hire him or not.

[Bobby Burton]

I think I feel confident enough to know that that's not going to happen. You get my point. It's like there are certain things you feel pretty strongly about. I, I just don't see that one. All right, this one from Dre, from va Y' all brought up A M's defense. We have been able to run all over them with Wisner. Can only seeing that that being worse for them with Brown and Smothers. There's some truth. Yeah, yeah. And so I was talking to some OU guys yesterday, our day before, as well as A M guys yesterday and one of the things I would say with both of those teams and their defenses, they're very well coached on defense and they flow with the ball or flow to the ball and know exactly where they're supposed to be. And so the cutback lanes on both of those defenses are almost always there. Now, A M is a lot more risk taking than Brent Venables. And what I mean by that is we saw Wiser break off big runs last year where A and M just vacated the area but with a blitz of some sort on third and six. Or that that sort of thing

[Jerry Hamilton]

can

[Bobby Burton]

with Brown and Smothers. Does that really change the, the trajectory of the run game against a team like A and M and or ou? Because I don't necessarily think like Trey Wiser was plenty good against those teams.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yes, I look.

[Unidentified Analyst]

So here's where I think what Texas has built on offense is maximized. It's going to be tougher even for Oklahoma and A M to pick their poison against Texas this year. Players are healthy and players perform. Okay, look, this is where think about, think about A and M and Oklahoma this year. Brent Venable is a great defense, great defensive coordinator, obviously great play caller. Give him credit where credit's due. But here's what I'm saying. Coleman, Wingo, Mosley, if those guys are healthy. If those guys are healthy. Arch Manning, second year starter with the running backs, with the ability to throw the ball to the running backs out of the backfield too. This is where what you did in the portal and how you built this team, this is when you have a chance to really maximize it. When you play against the best defensive minds and the best defenses on your schedule, that. That to me is where this really shows up. It doesn't show up if you go put 4, 49 points. It doesn't matter if you go beat Mississippi State 49, 17 this year. It matters that you're tougher to defend and you have to make people pick their poison. And you can't be made one dimensional. And I think Texas this year, the personnel has their best chance to do that against anybody they play as long as they're physical enough up front. But in the key games, in the key situation. But to your point, the cutbacks against Oklahoma and against A M have been there. And Trey Wiser was really good at

[Jerry Hamilton]

that, by the way.

[Bobby Burton]

He saw it.

[Unidentified Analyst]

He saw it. That's the other thing. You have to see it immediately. Feel it, almost feel it, see it, react to it. But I think this is those two games in particular rival games in Ohio State. Better be one of those games is where you see why this complete skill and weapons on offense can really impact you in those games. Because the whole key is to not be made one dimensional.

[Bobby Burton]

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[Unidentified Analyst]

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[Bobby Burton]

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[Jerry Hamilton]

Good guys there, right?

[Bobby Burton]

A couple of quick questions. I want to get to Jerry before we get going. K John, Ms. 6 somer all acting like that yesterday doesn't inspire confidence in him winning at Florida. I don't know that y' all saw the full.

[Unidentified Analyst]

I was in there for that. That was a joke.

[Bobby Burton]

That. Yeah, that was a total. He was joking.

[Jerry Hamilton]

Yes.

[Unidentified Analyst]

It was taken out of.

[Bobby Burton]

I. I will say this. I was actually. I am buying Florida based on what I heard yesterday.

[Unidentified Analyst]

He's a ball coach.

[Bobby Burton]

Yeah, I'm so. I just want to say that quickly. All right, Jerry, this one from Antoine. Richmond Randall versus South Oak Cliff. First game of the season played at Prayer View. A. M. Same thing.

[Unidentified Analyst]

It's going to be one hell of a game. Hopefully they'll have two Texas commits in it. We'll see August 1st. Antoine, if it does, I'm guessing you'll be there. I'm guessing I could possibly be there, too, in that case, but that should be a hell of a game. Obviously, they've played before with a lot on the line, so that will be a. That'll be a hell of a game.

[Bobby Burton]

All right. One more thing here. What is this? Sorry about that, guys. Was Texas being last at media day strategically planned?

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yes.

[Bobby Burton]

I don't think so.

[Unidentified Analyst]

I. I do. I do. Look, I think a couple of years ago, when it was a ghost, when, when drink was in their last drink, which was in there last, and he might have been speaking to himself, there was echoes. I. Look, I think. I don't. I think Lane can't Lane today and S. Sar and Arch today. Yeah, I think that was. I think that was done on purpose.

[Bobby Burton]

And I'm going to finish with this. Jason Watson. I. I agree with this. And this is going to be. I think my question to Steve Sarkeesian today. Will Texas start faster than the last couple of seasons? They really haven't gotten out in front to put pressure on very often. Texas has to start faster this year. Last year there was a little bit of an excuse because Arch was just getting started. Right. This year, those excuses have to be gone. You have to start. You got. You have got Ohio State game two, you've got Tennessee, game four, you've got OU game five. You have to start quick or you're, you're. Look, you can't go blow one at Tennessee like you blew one last year at Florida, period.

[Unidentified Analyst]

No doubt. I mean, look, in last year, if you look at last year, the first play of the game on offense, arch had a 25 yard gain. If he makes the throw to DeAndre Moore.

[Bobby Burton]

Yes.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Instead he put it in the ground 10 yards short. Okay. And it's amazing how just a singular play like that can affect you. There was a game last year where they had a. They had DeAndre Moore on a reverse in emotion. Reverse. I can't remember who it was. It's a 23 yard game. Parker Livingston got a hold on the edge. I mean,

[Bobby Burton]

they can't have those setbacks.

[Unidentified Analyst]

They have. You have to hit your opportunities.

[Bobby Burton]

You have to hit your layups.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Yeah, what you're saying, you have to hit your opportunity opportunities. You have to hit your layups. And I, I think that's going to be a, a really big part of, you know, the Ohio State game is. Look, things can creep in if you don't get off to a fast start.

[Bobby Burton]

All right, that's going to do it. Day four media days here, coffee and football. I'm Bobby Burton joined by Jerry Hamilton. Our producer Matt Hutchison. Struggling with some technical difficulties at some point midway in the show, but got those figured out. Thanks to Matt for doing that. Also gonna say this, we're gonna have a bunch of news and notes for you guys today as not only is Steve Sarkeesian at the dais, but also Lane Kiffin will be there. We're going to hear a little bit from him. It should be fun to follow him.

[Unidentified Analyst]

Two other opponents, Jeff Levy, Ryan Silverfield, Arkansas. I saw him walking around all opponents of Texas today.

[Bobby Burton]

Do you have a final Dr. Pepper count for us, Matt, before we let folks go? Somewhere in the 20s. There we go. All right, that's gonna do it for this morning's coffee football. Check us out [e-mail] if you get a chance. We've got all the day's events chronicled there with Hank and the guys. All right. For Jerry Hamilton, I'm Bobby Burton. This has been on Texas Football. Welcome, Horns.