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Welcome to the Saturday Conversation. Today Jerry Hamilton and I are going to talk about guys we think after watching a couple of days of practice are poised to make big moves this season. Again. Jerry, this is going to be a really simple list. These are guys that they may have started but now they're going to make bigger moves. They may have contributed last year, but we think they're poised to make bigger moves. Let's start if you don't mind, at tight end, Nick Townsend. After watching him a couple days in in fall camp here this past week, he has the look of a guy ready to take his game to the next level.
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Yeah, and look, I think he had his moments as a blocker, right? I mean he wasn't always perfect there. He's a freshman. Had the little short red zone run against Texas A and M. Had a solid spring spring showcase. Maybe had a drop or two. One was below the knees to be fair on the move. So that's a tough catch for a tight end. It's a 250 pound player but his body's really developed. He's gained about 15 pounds since getting the Austin. Now bodies change a little bit. Still the same elite athlete at that position. And Bobby, it may not be as even as much as what we saw the two days in the media window. But you know, I've been told that he had a couple of three really good catches once they moved indoor and were 11 on 11 kind of live after the media was gone. I heard he had a strong first day of practice and I just think look, it's going to huge opportunity for him this year. When you say okay, look at the wide receiver core of Cam Coleman, of Ryan Wingo, of Emmett Mosley and then the guys behind them and look at the running backs, Hollywood Smothers, Relit Brown and Derek Cooper. Then you have Michael Masseuse as the inline tight end. But who is the guy that is going to have favorable matchups this year? It's probably going to be Nick Townsend. So he's going to get plenty of opportunities. And by the way Bobby, he's going to have to make the most of them because Emory Winston will not drop a ball. He'll catch everything thrown his way which I think pushes Nick a little bit as well. But Nick Townsend, because of the people around him on this team has, I think he's going to have favorable matchups and is going to have a chance to have a breakout year.
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And the body transformation, he. He came into Texas looking pretty good for the age that he was coming out of high school. Now he's got that ma. He's like getting bigger, bulkier, yet retaining that same athleticism. Interesting choice. That was one of Jerry's choices. My choice on offense, my pick on offense is Brandon Baker. Now I know that kind of, this kind of stretches the definition of, of what we mean by a breakout or breakthrough star or a guy that's really going to up his game since he that started every single game last year, Jerry at offensive tackle. But for me, Brandon Baker last year was an average offensive tackle. Not great, not horrible, average. Now he's also young. At the same time I actually think he has a chance to be an all SEC caliber offensive guard long term and that's what I saw for the first couple of practices. He's reshaped his body. He continues to be athletic for his size and I think he packs a really powerful punch. He's also really intelligent player. I think that may play better even more inside where you see more twists and stunts with our late rushing linebackers, etc, I feel like the move of him from tackle to guard could actually give Texas a, I don't know, a second or third team all conference guard now and Then long term he might be an all conference level player. That's kind of where I thought where I see Brandon Baker making a move this year again he started every game last year so it's not like he's newcomer but I think he has a chance to breakthrough.
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I agree, I agree with that and we were talking about that before so we definitely agree on Brandon Baker. And look, I think this is the year Brandon Baker's been thrown into some NFL mock drafts. I think this is the year he actually starts to look like that guy. And, and I think that he by the end of the season obviously having a healthy season and productive season, that he's going to be a guy that once they change him from offensive tackle to from offensive line to interior offensive line, I think we're going to see him rise up the draft boards at that position. I think he's poised to have a tremendous year for the Texas Longhorns and be a guy that people are talking about as a second round maybe getting some mock late first type of NFL draft prospect. If he has that type of season that bodes really well for Texas in this offensive line.
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I think he moves really well for an interior offensive lineman, yet he has the size to play in there and that is rare. All right, let's switch over to the defensive side. You, you and I each took one player. Start with the guy you took, Brad Spence, young man that saw some action last year but wasn't an every game heavy rotation player. But under Will MUS champ instead of Pete Kowski, it sounds like we're going to see him be in a more aggressive front and that lends really well to Brad Smith's story.
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Yeah, he had a really good spring and and I just think he's gonna back up that spring. I think this was a good if you're gonna have a coaching move at D.C. i think this is a really good move for Brad Spence. I think we're going to see a return to the Arkansas Brad Spence who Had a really good game against Texas, by the way a couple of years ago with even more of a pass rushing, pass rushing numbers. I think he had four and a half sacks that season. I, I think Brad Spence is going to have six sacks. I think he's going to double his number last year. I thought he was underutilized last year in the Texas defense and I think what gives him a chance to have a really big year is he can play off ball. Then he can play at the overhang linebacker spot. So he's got two chances to be productive. And I'm going to, I keep going back to this but I heard that at the end of the spring Will Muschamp, a lot of coaches do this. We've heard this from other people. Will Muschamp texted all the text the defensive assistants under him and asked for the who's your top 11 players on the Texas defense after the spring And Brad Spence was on everybody's list and that's saying something on this Texas defense. So I think Brad Spence is poised to have a really productive year and I think this change from PK to must champ is right up his alley.
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I want to add this because I think it's also important. We've talked about the size of the Texas Longhorns at linebacker. Rasheed Biles kind of undersized Ty Anthony Smith kind of undersized. Well, Brad Spence isn't really, I mean he's right at £250 of full on muscle and I think that that also gives him, it gives, it gives Texas a presence they need in the run game and means he's going to get more opportunities overall than he did a year ago, which leads into your point about having more production etc. So I, I, I'm, I'm good with Brad Spence as being one of those guys on defense. The other guy on defense that I picked may not be everybody's pick, but it was mine. That's Zeno Umozulu, the defensive end. Lance Jackson's probably the starter alongside Colin Simmons, but Zeno Mosulu's gonna get some snaps and he's gonna rush the passer. He looks like a million bucks right now. He literally has not lost a step. In fact, if anything I think he's gotten more athletic and, and faster, just bigger. He looked terrific the first couple days without pads this past week.
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yeah, look, I think he's a better natural pass rusher than Lance Jackson. I'm not saying he's a better player, but I think he's got a little more quickness off the line of scrimmage. Those first couple of steps maybe only surpassed by Smith or Rogbo at that position, but I think Zena is poised for a really big year. I mean, he's £270 now. He's growing into that long arm frame that he had coming out of high school and he showed the flashes last year. And again, I go back to one thing. At the spring showcase, they didn't play him much. That that's a pretty good sign for a player that's not, oh, you're not good enough to play. That means they kind of had some bubble wrap on him when it came to 11 on 11, full contact. That means you're, you're protecting that player from injury and you're protecting that player from injury for a reason. That means he was really, really good in the spring. He got that type of treatment. I think he's gonna have a big year. Bobby Agree. I think he's really good fit in this scheme for Will Must Champ. And, and I would say this, I. I think Lance Jackson of those two guys is more likely to move inside on third downs. And I think Xena, that gives Xena a chance as a pass rusher, even more so than what we're thinking right now. I think Xena is going to have a really productive year for Texas.
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Full disclosure. So, so let's line this up. Nick Townsend and Brandon Baker on offense.
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Yeah.
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Brad Spence the linebacker, Zeno Mosulu the defensive end. On defense, some other guys that we contemplated putting on this list, Jerry Emmett Mosley. It we think it's going to be a breakout year for him most likely. I think that was a fair one. But we've talked a lot about him. We've talked a lot about Justice Terry. In a similar vein on defense, we also haven't talked about the guys. We don't know if they're ready 100 to break through. Guys like Cade Phillips who looks the part. Okay. But we didn't get to see enough of I think in the couple of days of practice that we watch to really gauge him because he wasn't. They didn't guard anybody in the secondary really. You know what I mean? So whether it's Cade Phillips or Bo Masco or, or even the second safety or the left guard on offense, there's some people that probably are going to step up. We just haven't seen them yet or enough of them.
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Yeah. By the way, Kate Phillips may be the most important guy. It's a step up. I mean in this Will Mustamp defense, that corner opposite Bo Masco, that's going to be huge for Will Muschamp in this Texas defense. So he may be the one. I mean of all these guys we named, he made to be the most important on this team actually.
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Yep.
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All right, Jerry, that's going to do it for this morning Saturday conversation. Just a quick update. Also want to mention we are going to have more from practice number three a little bit later today. Jerry, thanks for having the Saturday conversation with me this morning and you guys have a good weekend ahead. Thanks to Jerry Hamilton as well as our producer.
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On Texas Football

Episode: Nick Townsend & Texas Weapons Ready to EXPLODE This Season

Host: Bobby Burton
Guest: Jerry Hamilton
Date: August 8, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of On Texas Football dives into Texas Longhorns players poised to elevate their performances and potentially "explode" onto the scene in the upcoming season. Bobby Burton and Jerry Hamilton deliver in-depth roster analysis based on early fall camp observations, focusing on players expected to make significant leaps—whether they’re young talents, position shifters, or returning contributors. The discussion covers both sides of the ball, spotlighting the athletes whose development could drive Texas to new heights.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Offensive Breakout Candidates

1. Nick Townsend, Tight End

[01:30 - 03:46]

Athletic Upside: Jerry Hamilton highlights Townsend's transformation, praising his improved physique (up 15 pounds) and continued athleticism, especially as an inline tight end.
Expanded Role: The depth at wide receiver and running back gives Townsend opportunities to exploit favorable matchups—he's "ready to take his game to the next level."
Competition: Competition with Emory Winston, an extremely reliable pass-catcher, is pushing Townsend to maximize his opportunities.
Camp Performance: Townsend impressed behind closed doors, particularly in 11-on-11 settings, suggesting a breakout could be imminent.

"He's going to get plenty of opportunities... because of the people around him on this team." — Jerry Hamilton [02:54]

2. Brandon Baker, Offensive Line

[03:46 - 06:22]

From Tackle to Guard: Bobby Burton identifies Baker as a candidate to thrive after shifting from offensive tackle to guard, leveraging his athleticism and intelligence.
Potential for Stardom: After starting every game last year as a freshman but delivering average play, Baker is tipped for All-SEC caliber impact on the inside.
NFL Prospects: With a productive, healthy season, Baker could rise up draft boards—possibly entering second-round or even late first-round discussions.

"The move of him from tackle to guard could actually give Texas a... second or third team all-conference guard now. And then long term he might be an all-conference level player..." — Bobby Burton [05:11]

"I think this is the year he actually starts to look like that guy [NFL mock draft pick]." — Jerry Hamilton [05:44]

Defensive Breakout Candidates

3. Brad Spence, Linebacker

[06:22 - 08:39]

Scheme Fit: Spence benefits from the new, more aggressive Will Muschamp-led defense (replacing Pete Kwiatkowski), suiting his dynamic skillset.
Versatility: Can play off-ball and overhang linebacker spots; offers pass-rush and run-stopping abilities.
Recognition by Staff: After spring camp, every defensive coach had Spence among their "top 11" players—a strong indicator of his value.

"I think Brad Spence is going to have six sacks. I think he's going to double his number last year... he was underutilized." — Jerry Hamilton [07:36]

"Brad Spence... right at 250 pounds of full on muscle... gives Texas a presence they need." — Bobby Burton [08:18]

4. Zena Umeozulu, Defensive End

[08:39 - 12:15]

Physical Development: Umeozulu has bulked up to 270 pounds while becoming even more athletic and explosive.
Natural Pass Rusher: Offers more quickness off the line than his counterpart, Lance Jackson; poised for a significant role in pass-rushing situations.
Offseason Clues: Minimal play during the spring showcase was a sign that coaches are protecting a breakout talent.

"I think he's a better natural pass rusher than Lance Jackson... those first couple steps maybe only surpassed by Smith or Rogbo at that position." — Jerry Hamilton [11:04]

"He literally has not lost a step. In fact, if anything I think he's gotten more athletic and, and faster, just bigger." — Bobby Burton [09:42]

Other Names Mentioned

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Emmett Mosley (Wide Receiver): Both hosts believe a breakout is likely for the sophomore, but he has already been a frequent topic.
Justice Terry (Defensive Line): Mentioned as another candidate for increased impact this year.
Cade Phillips (Cornerback): Though possibly the most important player to step up in Muschamp’s scheme, limited practice exposure leaves uncertainty.
Bo Masco (Defensive Back): Named as a possible contributor but not enough film for evaluation.

“Cade Phillips may be the most important guy. It’s a step up... in this Will Muschamp defense, that corner opposite Bo Masco, that’s going to be huge.” — Jerry Hamilton [13:18]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Townsend’s Growth:
"He's going to have to make the most of them because Emory Winston will not drop a ball." — Jerry Hamilton [02:49]
On Body Transformations:
"He's like getting bigger, bulkier, yet retaining that same athleticism." — Bobby Burton [03:46]
On Will Muschamp’s Impact:
"This was a good… move for Brad Spence. …return to the Arkansas Brad Spence who had a really good game against Texas." — Jerry Hamilton [07:31]

Timeline of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:30 | Introduction to episode theme and overview | | 01:41 | Nick Townsend discussion begins | | 03:46 | Brandon Baker offensive line analysis | | 06:22 | Defensive focus: Brad Spence at linebacker | | 08:39 | Zena Umeozulu at defensive end | | 12:15 | Evaluating other possible breakout names (Mosley, Terry, etc)| | 13:37 | Wrap-up and final thoughts |

Takeaways for Listeners

Nick Townsend and Brandon Baker are poised to become pivotal offensive weapons due to physical development, expanded opportunity, and strategic position changes.
Defensively, Brad Spence and Zena Umeozulu could thrive under a new aggressive scheme, with Spence’s versatility and Umeozulu’s pass rush talent highlighted.
Several younger or under-the-radar players may still step into larger roles as the season unfolds, but these four stand out after early camp sessions.
Key positional battles and depth will continue to be clarified as more practices occur.

Episode Tone:
Analytical, enthusiastic, and optimistic about Texas’s depth and potential for breakout stars on both sides of the ball.

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Welcome to the Saturday Conversation. Today Jerry Hamilton and I are going to talk about guys we think after watching a couple of days of practice are poised to make big moves this season. Again. Jerry, this is going to be a really simple list. These are guys that they may have started but now they're going to make bigger moves. They may have contributed last year, but we think they're poised to make bigger moves. Let's start if you don't mind, at tight end, Nick Townsend. After watching him a couple days in in fall camp here this past week, he has the look of a guy ready to take his game to the next level.
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Yeah, and look, I think he had his moments as a blocker, right? I mean he wasn't always perfect there. He's a freshman. Had the little short red zone run against Texas A and M. Had a solid spring spring showcase. Maybe had a drop or two. One was below the knees to be fair on the move. So that's a tough catch for a tight end. It's a 250 pound player but his body's really developed. He's gained about 15 pounds since getting the Austin. Now bodies change a little bit. Still the same elite athlete at that position. And Bobby, it may not be as even as much as what we saw the two days in the media window. But you know, I've been told that he had a couple of three really good catches once they moved indoor and were 11 on 11 kind of live after the media was gone. I heard he had a strong first day of practice and I just think look, it's going to huge opportunity for him this year. When you say okay, look at the wide receiver core of Cam Coleman, of Ryan Wingo, of Emmett Mosley and then the guys behind them and look at the running backs, Hollywood Smothers, Relit Brown and Derek Cooper. Then you have Michael Masseuse as the inline tight end. But who is the guy that is going to have favorable matchups this year? It's probably going to be Nick Townsend. So he's going to get plenty of opportunities. And by the way Bobby, he's going to have to make the most of them because Emory Winston will not drop a ball. He'll catch everything thrown his way which I think pushes Nick a little bit as well. But Nick Townsend, because of the people around him on this team has, I think he's going to have favorable matchups and is going to have a chance to have a breakout year.
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And the body transformation, he. He came into Texas looking pretty good for the age that he was coming out of high school. Now he's got that ma. He's like getting bigger, bulkier, yet retaining that same athleticism. Interesting choice. That was one of Jerry's choices. My choice on offense, my pick on offense is Brandon Baker. Now I know that kind of, this kind of stretches the definition of, of what we mean by a breakout or breakthrough star or a guy that's really going to up his game since he that started every single game last year, Jerry at offensive tackle. But for me, Brandon Baker last year was an average offensive tackle. Not great, not horrible, average. Now he's also young. At the same time I actually think he has a chance to be an all SEC caliber offensive guard long term and that's what I saw for the first couple of practices. He's reshaped his body. He continues to be athletic for his size and I think he packs a really powerful punch. He's also really intelligent player. I think that may play better even more inside where you see more twists and stunts with our late rushing linebackers, etc, I feel like the move of him from tackle to guard could actually give Texas a, I don't know, a second or third team all conference guard now and Then long term he might be an all conference level player. That's kind of where I thought where I see Brandon Baker making a move this year again he started every game last year so it's not like he's newcomer but I think he has a chance to breakthrough.
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I agree, I agree with that and we were talking about that before so we definitely agree on Brandon Baker. And look, I think this is the year Brandon Baker's been thrown into some NFL mock drafts. I think this is the year he actually starts to look like that guy. And, and I think that he by the end of the season obviously having a healthy season and productive season, that he's going to be a guy that once they change him from offensive tackle to from offensive line to interior offensive line, I think we're going to see him rise up the draft boards at that position. I think he's poised to have a tremendous year for the Texas Longhorns and be a guy that people are talking about as a second round maybe getting some mock late first type of NFL draft prospect. If he has that type of season that bodes really well for Texas in this offensive line.
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I think he moves really well for an interior offensive lineman, yet he has the size to play in there and that is rare. All right, let's switch over to the defensive side. You, you and I each took one player. Start with the guy you took, Brad Spence, young man that saw some action last year but wasn't an every game heavy rotation player. But under Will MUS champ instead of Pete Kowski, it sounds like we're going to see him be in a more aggressive front and that lends really well to Brad Smith's story.
[06:57]
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[07:27]
C
Yeah, he had a really good spring and and I just think he's gonna back up that spring. I think this was a good if you're gonna have a coaching move at D.C. i think this is a really good move for Brad Spence. I think we're going to see a return to the Arkansas Brad Spence who Had a really good game against Texas, by the way a couple of years ago with even more of a pass rushing, pass rushing numbers. I think he had four and a half sacks that season. I, I think Brad Spence is going to have six sacks. I think he's going to double his number last year. I thought he was underutilized last year in the Texas defense and I think what gives him a chance to have a really big year is he can play off ball. Then he can play at the overhang linebacker spot. So he's got two chances to be productive. And I'm going to, I keep going back to this but I heard that at the end of the spring Will Muschamp, a lot of coaches do this. We've heard this from other people. Will Muschamp texted all the text the defensive assistants under him and asked for the who's your top 11 players on the Texas defense after the spring And Brad Spence was on everybody's list and that's saying something on this Texas defense. So I think Brad Spence is poised to have a really productive year and I think this change from PK to must champ is right up his alley.
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I want to add this because I think it's also important. We've talked about the size of the Texas Longhorns at linebacker. Rasheed Biles kind of undersized Ty Anthony Smith kind of undersized. Well, Brad Spence isn't really, I mean he's right at £250 of full on muscle and I think that that also gives him, it gives, it gives Texas a presence they need in the run game and means he's going to get more opportunities overall than he did a year ago, which leads into your point about having more production etc. So I, I, I'm, I'm good with Brad Spence as being one of those guys on defense. The other guy on defense that I picked may not be everybody's pick, but it was mine. That's Zeno Umozulu, the defensive end. Lance Jackson's probably the starter alongside Colin Simmons, but Zeno Mosulu's gonna get some snaps and he's gonna rush the passer. He looks like a million bucks right now. He literally has not lost a step. In fact, if anything I think he's gotten more athletic and, and faster, just bigger. He looked terrific the first couple days without pads this past week.
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C
yeah, look, I think he's a better natural pass rusher than Lance Jackson. I'm not saying he's a better player, but I think he's got a little more quickness off the line of scrimmage. Those first couple of steps maybe only surpassed by Smith or Rogbo at that position, but I think Zena is poised for a really big year. I mean, he's £270 now. He's growing into that long arm frame that he had coming out of high school and he showed the flashes last year. And again, I go back to one thing. At the spring showcase, they didn't play him much. That that's a pretty good sign for a player that's not, oh, you're not good enough to play. That means they kind of had some bubble wrap on him when it came to 11 on 11, full contact. That means you're, you're protecting that player from injury and you're protecting that player from injury for a reason. That means he was really, really good in the spring. He got that type of treatment. I think he's gonna have a big year. Bobby Agree. I think he's really good fit in this scheme for Will Must Champ. And, and I would say this, I. I think Lance Jackson of those two guys is more likely to move inside on third downs. And I think Xena, that gives Xena a chance as a pass rusher, even more so than what we're thinking right now. I think Xena is going to have a really productive year for Texas.
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Full disclosure. So, so let's line this up. Nick Townsend and Brandon Baker on offense.
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C
Yeah.
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Brad Spence the linebacker, Zeno Mosulu the defensive end. On defense, some other guys that we contemplated putting on this list, Jerry Emmett Mosley. It we think it's going to be a breakout year for him most likely. I think that was a fair one. But we've talked a lot about him. We've talked a lot about Justice Terry. In a similar vein on defense, we also haven't talked about the guys. We don't know if they're ready 100 to break through. Guys like Cade Phillips who looks the part. Okay. But we didn't get to see enough of I think in the couple of days of practice that we watch to really gauge him because he wasn't. They didn't guard anybody in the secondary really. You know what I mean? So whether it's Cade Phillips or Bo Masco or, or even the second safety or the left guard on offense, there's some people that probably are going to step up. We just haven't seen them yet or enough of them.
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C
Yeah. By the way, Kate Phillips may be the most important guy. It's a step up. I mean in this Will Mustamp defense, that corner opposite Bo Masco, that's going to be huge for Will Muschamp in this Texas defense. So he may be the one. I mean of all these guys we named, he made to be the most important on this team actually.
[13:37]
D
Yep.
[13:38]
A
All right, Jerry, that's going to do it for this morning Saturday conversation. Just a quick update. Also want to mention we are going to have more from practice number three a little bit later today. Jerry, thanks for having the Saturday conversation with me this morning and you guys have a good weekend ahead. Thanks to Jerry Hamilton as well as our producer.
[13:58]
B
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