LIVE: Texas Football Analysis & Viewer Questions Answered

Summary

On Texas Football – Texas Football Analysis & Viewer Questions Answered

Podcast Host: Bobby Burton
Date: August 11, 2026
Main Guests: Rod Babers, CJ Vogel, Bob Shipley (Coach), Stevie Lee

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Episode Overview

This live episode huddles a cadre of Longhorn greats and football insiders to break down Texas football’s latest camp developments, player progress, and team chemistry heading into the 2026 season. Host Rod Babers is joined by analyst CJ Vogel and high school coaching legend Bob Shipley. Special guest Stevie Lee, a former Texas DT, also appears to reminisce and weigh in on camp talk, practice culture, and what constitutes championship expectations for this year’s squad. The panel answers viewer questions, spotlights key positional battles, and shares inside anecdotes from their playing days, all against the backdrop of Texas football’s championship aspirations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Practice Update: Physicality and Competitive Edge

• Physical Tone in Camp ([02:41]):
  • CJ notes Coach Sarkisian emphasized how “physical” practice has been, particularly in the trenches, even without being consistently in full pads.
  • “In Sark's 2½ minute opening statement, I think the word 'physical' was brought up about 12 times.” – CJ Vogel (03:08)
• Competition Drives Energy:
  • Battle between leaders: Arch Manning (QB) and Colin Simmons (DE) reportedly jawing, injecting swag and edge into camp.
  • “Arch probably talks a little more than people give him credit for outside of our building. In practice, there's a good amount of banter that goes on... He and Colin were getting into it today about a screenplay, and it was all out of fun.” – Coach Sarkisian, relayed by CJ Vogel (04:16)

2. The Importance of 'Trash Talk' and Swag

• Panelists agree: banter at practice is a sign of player confidence and leadership, especially when it comes from your quarterback and top defender.
  • “There's a difference between smack talk and trash talk... But guys who are talking—it usually means they're feeling themselves. They're starting to feel confident about their game. That confidence is contagious.” – Rod Babers (05:46)
• Coach Shipley sees this as healthy and necessary in the NIL era, particularly for high-profile players like Manning and Simmons to set the tone (09:13).

3. Staff Chemistry and Culture

• Increased vocal energy isn’t just among players—coaching staff, with Will Muschamp back, is spirited and vocal, too.
• Vocal coaches feed team energy, sometimes even sparking coach-to-coach banter during practice ([10:36]).

4. Reminiscing on Texas Legends & Practice Stories

• Stevie Lee recalls locker room trash talk, leadership moments, and how adversity and emotion galvanized previous teams:
  • “Casey Hampton got real pissed... The referee told Coach Tyler, you need to calm your guy down or I'm gonna have to put him out. The game was mad and I was like, man, let that man cook.” – Stevie Lee (17:54)
• Discussion about fostering “dog” mentality in star players, even if they’re naturally reserved (e.g., Roy Williams story, [11:10]).

5. “Freak Athlete” Debate – Who’d Make The List?

• Who from past teams would make Bruce Feldman’s "Freaks List"?
  • Nominations include Quentin Jammer, Roy Williams, Leonard Davis, Derrick Johnson, Ramonce Taylor, and Sean Rogers.
  • “Leonard Davis—looked like he had not an ounce of fat on him, he was truly the modern day Goliath.” – Stevie Lee (25:12)
  • “Ramonce Taylor… could do anything on the field—he was a freak of nature!” – Stevie Lee (26:55)

6. Trench Talk and Defensive Line Analysis

• Stevie Lee and panel analyze the brand of trash talk in the trenches—short, intense, but often cut short by sheer exhaustion (“big boys are so tired, we can’t say too much,” 19:49).
• Justice Terry (DL) and Josiah Sharma (OL) are discussed as ascending talents—Stevie will issue a “stamp of approval” after attending practice ([22:18]).

7. Championship Expectations and Viewer Q&A

• Season Predictions:
  • Rod Babers: 10-2, sees five or more one-score games due to strength of SEC schedule ([32:36]).
  • CJ Vogel: Closer to 11-1, wary of LSU and Oklahoma as toughest matchups ([33:22]).
  • Coach Shipley: Realistic expectation is 10-2, hopeful for 11-1 ([34:14]).
• Championship or Bust? – Addressing Josh Pate’s comments:
  • Consensus: Playoff is a must (not making it would be a “catastrophe”), but not national title or unemployment for Sarkisian ([48:55]).

8. Offensive Playmaker Focus – Cam Coleman Praise

• Sark compares Cam Coleman’s unique blend of size, radius, and speed to Julio Jones ([53:31]):
  • “I would probably say Julio Jones—he had that ability to high point balls the way Cam does. And still be a vertical threat.” – Steve Sarkisian ([54:36])
• Coleman’s ability after the catch is highlighted as something Texas will unlock.
  • “If that is something Texas can unlock... I would love it because Julio Jones is—as good as it gets.” – CJ Vogel (55:27)

9. Young Guys to Watch

• Cosio Paula (LB) and Kenneth Ray Davis (S) highlighted as under-the-radar freshmen impressing in camp; Davis noted for his ball skills and two-way pedigree ([47:02], [48:11]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “In Sark's 2½ minute opening statement, I think the word 'physical' was brought up about 12 times.” – CJ Vogel ([03:08])
• “It's out of fun, right? It's out of competition. But secondly, it's, hey, our quarterback loves football.” – CJ Vogel ([04:57])
• “There's a difference between smack talk and trash talk… guys who are talking—it usually means they're feeling themselves.” – Rod Babers ([05:46])
• “I never allowed [trash talk] in high school... but in college, hey—these are the guys who can back it up. They can cash those checks.” – Bob Shipley ([07:48])
• “In the trenches, we talk trash hand in the ground... after that, big boys are too tired.” – Stevie Lee ([19:49])
• “Leonard Davis… was the modern day Goliath… And Ramonce Taylor, freak of nature!” – Stevie Lee ([25:12], [26:55])
• “I would probably say Julio Jones [as a comp for Cam Coleman].” – Steve Sarkisian ([54:36])
• “Not making the College Football Playoff would be a catastrophe.” – CJ Vogel ([51:54])

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Fun/Lighthearted Segments

CJ Vogel’s Real Name Revealed

• A running bit throughout the show, as viewers try to guess CJ’s initials. Ultimately, it’s revealed as “Clay Jordan” ([41:07],[41:49]), drawing laughter and jokes about CJ’s alternative persona.
• “His mama called him Clay, I’m gonna call him Clay.” – Rod Babers ([57:58])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Segment | |----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:41 | Sarkisian’s emphasis on physicality and competition in practice | | 04:16 | Sark on Arch Manning and Colin Simmons trading banter | | 05:46 | Panel on confidence, trash talk, and leadership culture | | 17:18 | Stevie Lee on locker room trash talk and player-led teams | | 25:12 | Past Longhorn “freaks” nominated for all-time athletic list | | 32:36 | Record predictions for the 2026 Texas season | | 48:55 | Panel responds to “championship or bust” premise for Sarkisian | | 53:31 | Sark’s Cam Coleman–Julio Jones comparison | | 55:27 | Panel’s take on Coleman’s after-catch potential | | 41:07-41:49 | 'CJ' initials game; real name revealed as Clay Jordan |

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Tone and Style

The episode is lively, boastful, and nostalgic—full of Longhorn pride and playful banter. The hosts balance technical football insight with storytelling and locker room humor, appealing to both football die-hards and casual Texas fans.

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Summary

This episode offers rich insights into the Texas Longhorns’ 2026 training camp, from inside-the-trenches physicality and leadership battles to high-level skill assessments, with vivid reminiscences from past players and a heavy dose of Texas football culture. The panel is bullish on the team’s depth and edge, pointing to a playoff-or-bust mentality and highlighting rising stars such as Cam Coleman and young defensive standouts. It’s a dynamic, information-rich listen for anyone invested in Texas football’s present and future.

Transcript

[A]

Football is back. Time to wake up the group chat and catch up with old friends, even the grumpy ones. What a baby. Hey, maybe even have a sing along because when football's back, so are we. Sky Sports is your home of football. Join us for over 1, 500 matches this season across the Premier League, WSL, SPFL and more. Sky Sports, welcome to the show. Hey, what's up folks? Welcome back to only Texas football. And welcome back to the winning drive, the prime time edition. I'm lifetime Longhorn, Rod Babies. Pleased to be joined by another lifetime Longhorn, the young prodigy himself, CJ Vogel. And of course our own coach from high school football coach at Bernie Capel, Brownwood, Belton Rotan. Also played college football at Abilene Christian. Coach there as well was on the staff University of Texas for multiple head football coaches. These days you can catch his work, some of his work@shipley ranches.com it's our own coach Bob Shipley. What's going on, coach? How you feeling? Oh, oh, Coach is muted. Oh, here you come. Here it comes. I said I'm doing great.

[B]

I can't wait to hear the practice nuggets you guys have, man. What I'm reading is great stuff.

[A]

Yeah, Bobby, Bobby and Jerry, Connie Mitt, C.J. as well. Man, you guys are in mid season form when it comes to dropping out some of them practice nugget shots. My man Hank, great stuff over there. So just go check outside on texasfootball.com we'll talk about some of it. But like I said, what we cover is just a smidgen, just a very small fraction of what is actually broken down over there on Texas football dot com. All right, shout out to our sponsor, shout out to Von Lane, prize picks, Hard girl roofing. We'll tell you more about them coming up a little bit later on. Cj, you got a chance to hear, by the way, questions, comments, throw them out there. We'll try to address as many of them as we can. You know, you guys know how it works. Super chats, jump to the front of the line. You can interrupt the show at any time. But cj, you got a chance to hear from the man. Steve Sarkeesian himself spoke to the media. What did you, what did you learn? Because there was some nice little nuggets, a few nuggets you actually dropped [e-mail] what was the, the thing that kind of got you most intrigued from the Sark media availability?

[C]

Yeah, I think. Well, there's a few things and we're going to talk about a couple of them. The first thing that Sark says or said often today was how phys practice has been. And Coach, you could probably speak to this. They're not yet in full pads, at least not consistently in full pads, and they won't be throughout the spring. Of course, they'll have shoulder pads and helmets Some days, they'll have the bottom. Some days, of course, it'll just be shorts.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But he says in the trenches, especially on the offensive line, there's been a lot of physicality. And I don't know if that's something that we've seen in every iteration of the Texas football team around week one or week two of fall camp, but that was something that in Sark's 2 1/2 minute opening statement, I think the word physical was brought up about 12 times.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

So again, you know, sometimes we hear coach speak, sometimes we hear Steve Sarkeesian lay it out how it is. I'd like to think this is the latter of that and that Texas is really getting after it. But here's what I wanted to bring up. Boy, there's some competition in camp right now. There is a lot of competition. And as a result, sometimes those emotions get a little high. Today, Colin Simmons, an Arch Manning coach, they were drawing a little bit and look, Matthew, give me the thumbs up whenever the clip is ready. But it is. We have it from Sark. Sark was saying that there's a little of a little mess talking from Arch Manning, the quarterback in practice. Something I love to hear. Something that outside of the doors of Moncrief, Arch probably doesn't get enough credit for.

[D]

Arch loves football. He loves to practice, he loves to work. And it's funny because Arch probably talks a little more than people give him credit for outside of our building. So in practice, there's a good amount of banter that goes on and, And. And now Arch has more confidence. He's. He gives a little more of that banter. He gives a little more of that banter back. He and Colin were getting into it today about a screenplay, and it was all out of fun. It's not nothing out of, like, negative. It's a. Out of fun. But it's. You could see that they're loving practice, they're loving to practice. But I think that starts when your quarterback loves practice, when he's having fun being out there, and you can feel those guys responding that way.

[C]

I think one of the big things that Sark included in that, well, first and foremost, it's out of fun, right? It's out of competition. It's out of driving the other side of the football. But secondly, it's, hey, our quarterback loves football. And especially around this time next week will certainly play into this. Y' all have both been through camps like this. In the heat of Austin, Texas. It's not going to be fun a week from now, right? Going into week three, you. You've hit each other every single day. You're. You're kind of tired of waking up at five in the morning for film or meetings or whatever. You're just ready to finally hit somebody else. But to hear that that's the case with our training, to hear that that's the case with Colin Simmons, the two guys that are the, you know, unequivocal leaders of both sides of the football, I think is very encouraging. Rod, that was something that fired me up today.

[A]

I love it, man. And Sar dropping, Dropping the bomb there, too. I like it. But to me, this is. This is like, I don't know, the fourth or fifth report we've heard about Arch Manning and that he does. He likes. He's got some swag and he does like to talk some trash at practice. Now, I know this smack talk, a trash talk, by the way, as a connoisseur of both, as a db, there is a difference between smack talk and trash talk. Trash talk is all hypothetical, theoretical, you know, I mean, just kind of. You're spitting game out there. Smack talk is real time. What's actually happening, you know, it's like Smackdown. All right, so we don't, you know, I mean, so it is a difference, but we've heard that multiple times. And to me, and I'm not saying players who don't talk aren't confident because that's not the case at all. Some guys, that's just not their style. Not they vibe. They don't talk trash. I remember a great story from Kobe Bryant talking about LeBron James. He was like, yeah, LeBron James don't talk trash. It was weird. He was like, that's strange. I was up there talking trash. I'm trying to get in his head. I'm throwing all kind of stuff at him. And then LeBron was not. He was not reciprocating. He was like, man, it's a weird generation of basketball players. But so some guys just don't talk trash. That's not really what they do. So I'm not saying they're not confident, but guys who are talking, it usually means they're feeling themselves. They're starting to feel confident about their game. And so I think that's the important thing that Sharks started. He's starting to feel and witness that. Oh, man, my best players are, are feeling, are very confident right now, and they're practicing at a high level. That confidence is contagious. Coach, everybody on the team starts to get a little bit at smack talk, starting with the QB and, and the best defensive player on the team maybe in the nation, you know, that, that, that, that's contagious. Everybody starts to get a little bit of that. And then it does increase the juice at practice to CJ's point. You need that juice. You, you need it two weeks in or a. Because two days. Hey, football. Football ain't, ain't. Nobody ever said football was. Practice was fun. Football's fun, but practicing ain't always fun, especially when you're doing in the heat.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

You don't think, you don't think that Arch gets a lot of trash. Talk to him during the games, you know, about, you know, his lineage or his family or whatever, you know, I love it when he dishes it out. Now, let me, let me. I don't like it in high school. I never allowed it in high school. There's no place for it in college. Yeah, let's go. And I can tell you the ones that are doing the trash talking, like you said, Rob, those are the guys who are feeling it. Those are the guys who can back it up. They can, they can cash those checks. They're right. And out there talking smack, you know?

[A]

Yeah, now you're right, Coach. I never talk trash unless I felt like I could back it up. That's. That's the worst feeling, talking trash. And then somebody made up making plays on you. It's like, that ain't good. Yeah.

[C]

You don't want to look like Tyreek Stevenson, the cornerback for the Bears, pumping up the crowd before Hail Mary. He's the one that ultimately gets scored on there. But, coach, wait, if you don't mind, expand on that a little bit, because in today's era of nil, where it's probably fair to say two of those guys, Colin Simmons, Archman, are two of your, what, top three, maybe your top two most expensive players on the roster. For them to be the ones that are kind of leading the charge, does that in a way just set the overall tone? I mean, do you like it that it's those two specifically that are going at it with one another?

[B]

Absolutely. I think it's. I think it's great. I think I think those guys understand the leadership role that's been placed on their shoulders and you know, I think it gets the rest of the team juice, you know, I mean, here's my leader out there and he's talking smack. It may not be talking about, you know, it could, it could be who knows what the trash talking about or I don't know the difference. Rod, I'm sorry. You're trash and smack. It's all, it's all one of the same to me. Most of my career, like I said, you kept your mouth shut. Let your, Let your playing do the talking for you. But yeah, I, I think it's, I think it's healthy. I think it's, I think it's a great sign of a vibe that this team has and I think it builds a confidence of the players that are around Sark and around. I mean that around Arch and that around Colin, you know, that we're, we're. Yeah, this guy's a real deal, you know, and those two guys are the real deal, as you said. The true leaders of the offense and the defense going at it.

[E]

Yeah, let's go.

[B]

Go. It brings, I mean, you know, it brings the level up of everybody around him, in my opinion.

[C]

Give me pumped up. Raleigh Brown is another one that brings the energy.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, but think about it. I think you have that the staff is different like that too. That's more, that's definitely more talking on that staff now with must champ there because must have just a very vocal guy. He's not necessarily talking trash or talking smack. He's just coaching and he coaches loud.

[B]

I can tell you this firsthand experience when you got coaches talking smack or trash or whatever you want to call it, Rod. To each other now, that's, that's, that's when it gets real.

[A]

Yet.

[B]

That's when it gets real. That's when the players, they start taking it personal. You talking trash to my coach?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, it's, I've, I haven't ever seen anybody throw down out there, but I've seen some guys get after it. You know, maybe it's supposed to be a non contact drill or you're not supposed to touch a quarterback or you know, whatever, and coaches start yapping and it just gets the players really pumped up.

[A]

Yeah, I love that. That's a good point. I like that. And I remember that was. I forgot what game it was. Remember some game like the players were talking smack to Sark and it actually did get the players riled up like, because it was one of the players. He made a play, start talking smack the Sark, and then the guys came up to defend their coach. I did see we were talking about in the chat, I think it was Marco. Did I ever talk trash to Roy Williams? He. I bet Jalook is great. So I'm saying I think you. Lucas, between jalooki mushroom. Yeah. Yes, I did talk a lot of trash to Roy Williams. Roy Williams was very. What's the word? He was kind of like. He wasn't like an introvert or anything, but he was just kind of, you know, quiet when he first got there, like for the team, like, because when he first got there, he was already. He's one of those guys best. One of the top five players on the team when he got there. So it's like, hey, man, we're expecting a lot from you. Like, you. You already one of the best players. Hey, let's. Let's see what you got. And he was reserved at times. So we all. We. We literally had conversations about we got to pull that dog out at him because he was a player. He was, but we got to pull that dog at him. So. Oh, that Basically we. And you still had like open practices at times then where one on ones were open to the public. So we would make it our. Our mission to. To get Roy Williams, like, get that dog out in him. Because running. I'll give you a nugget about Roy Williams didn't go. Didn't go out. Didn't go out like, like a lot and like with the players and everything, like out on the town until he got to the NFL.

[E]

Really?

[A]

He didn't do it.

[B]

Bleachers out for open practices.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

There were bleachers on the west side of the field for fans to come sit in. That's unheard of now.

[A]

That is unheard of. Okay, before. I know we're gonna get to. I know we got Stevie coming up and I want to get to this other Sark clip as well coming up. But let's first thank a couple of our sponsors, thank our friends at Von Lane just really quickly, and then we'll dive into the conversation with Stevie. Shout out to our friends over at Von Lane. Hey, folks, football season is here. No better way for you to get to the games. Then do it with Von Lane. If you're traveling from H town, the Woodlands or north Houston, listen up, folks. Von Lane just launch a new route between Austin and the Woodlands so you can book trips now through October. So football season, you think about getting into town for those game days, traffic can be a nightmare. Of course, parking can also be a nightmare. You don't have to worry about any of that with our friends over at Vaughn Lane. So if you're also traveling from DFW or from Dallas, you can also think about the Von Lane for game days if you're a UT fan. But if you're traveling for business or for personal reasons, you should always consider the Vaughn Lane. It is a top notch, first class travel experience on the ground. You board in minutes at a private hotel terminal. No tsa, no security checks. You ain't got to worry about delayed flights. Matter of fact, my wife's on a flight now. She's delayed. All right. She's actually got to spend the night in Salt Lake City. All right. I'm sure Salt Lake City is a great place, but you'd rather not have to do that. All right. Friends over at V Lane, they get you there where you need to be. They serve Austin, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Plano, the Woodlands, Nashville, Memphis, Atlanta, Knoxville. If you're traveling with the team, you you can charter your own Von Lane. Design the trip from pickup to drop off. Visit bon lane.com b o n l a n e.com and if it's the first time riding, enter the code OTF26 at checkout to receive $20 off your first ride with Von Lane. That's Von Lane, your private jet on wheels. While we thank the sponsors, let's also thank our friends over at Prize Picks really quickly. If you're not picking with prize picks, you're doing yourself a disservice. They're fantastic folks, you guys. Right now they're no, they're the number one sports pick app in America and I know why. For players picks, all you do is choose more or less on a few player stats and that's it. If you like picking teams instead of players, my friends over at Prize Picks got you covered there as well. You can pick the winner, the spread total on games, even fights. Prize picks is available in most states including the great state of Texas, but also California, Florida. So chances are you can jump in right now. One of the new features that I love is also you can follow different users. So if you like their picks, you can actually click on you know, obviously to follow them and then you can follow their picks as well. You can also follow your friends picks too. So if you want to troll them, you are praise them. You can do that too. Now it's the. Here's the best part. If you play Your first five dollar lineup and you win, you'll get a hundred and fifty in bonus lineups. You can't beat that. All you gotta do is use the code HMA when you sign up. So download the prospects app right now, use the code hma, play the first five dollar lineup and you, if you win, you'll get a hundred and fifty in bonus lineups. That's prize picks, code hma. Good luck. And as always, play smart. Play responsibly. Play prospects. All right, let's bring on my man Stevie Lee, because I think he is joining us right now. Boom, there he is. We don't want to waste his time. He's a busy man. We appreciate Stephen Lee jumping on my former teammate and a lifetime Longhorn as well. A very proud one. What's up, Stevie? How was your weekend?

[E]

Weekend was great, man. How was yours?

[A]

It was good, man, good weekend. Football, I mean, no complaint. That's my. What's my football?

[C]

Are you.

[A]

How you doing? Football. And so people ask you like, say how's your day going? Football. Football. Don't ask a man how he's doing in football season. He's doing damn good. He's focusing on the big game coming up. No matter what game it is that week, it's beautiful thing. Stevie, let me ask you this man, because we were just talking about this, about trash talk, because sorry, threw out there that, you know, Arch is feeling themselves talking some smack out there, which we all like to hear that because that means he's got the swag and you need swag if you're gonna win it, all right? Because Vy talked a lot of trash all the time. That was just part of his game. Who are. I guess I may have just named one. But who do you remember as the biggest trash talkers back when we played on the team?

[E]

Biggest trash talker. I remember actually Dee Dee Lewis getting into it with someone.

[A]

Dee Dee probably did talk a lot.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

But I also remember, I remember that Sean Rogers went down my freshman year after I went down, after I was out for the season. He had a twisted. I remember that and I remember it was a dirty play, actually. I can't remember the team we played against and Casey Hampton got real pissed, right?

[A]

Oh yeah.

[E]

So Casey was at the line of scrimmage when they're about. Well, they were in. The other team was in the huddle. He was mf in the whole. He was mad, like pissing mad. The referee came to the sideline and said, told Coach Tyler, you need to calm your guy down. I'm have to put him out. The game was mad and I was like, man, let that man cook. You know, as long as he's playing within the leagues of the game, let him cook, you know. So, yeah, it was. I've never seen anybody that mad before in a football game. And he balled out. But Sean, Sean went down and he went and fought for his brother, man. It was. It was a sight to see and that. And that actually catapult us into the leadership, you know, of a player led team back then. Yeah, when someone goes down due to a dirty play, like he was engaged with a guy and another guy just came and put his helmet right on his ankle. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so that. That made me realize, man, I'm in a different place right now, man. These guys are fight. We are fighting for each other. That's why Coach Brown made me travel as a true freshman. That was red shirt. I traveled to all the games. He made me travel because there was some things that you can. You can see traveling on the sideline that you won't catch on the. On tv, you know. Yep, that. That's that. And it was truly a player led team right there.

[A]

Great story.

[C]

Yeah. Well, speaking of player led, you know, I think a lot of that stems from the guys that we just talked about. Colin Simmons, Trevor Goosby, Arch Manning. You know, they see everything that goes on in the trenches. We. We hear from coach and Rod all the time about the trash Talk of DBs and wide receiver. Stevie, what is trash talk like in the trenches? Is it different than, you know, we hear about one on ones and stuff?

[E]

So.

[A]

Good question.

[E]

I think in the, in the trenches, man, we. We talk trash when our hand is in the ground, right? So right before the ball snaps, you might hear something about somebody's mama, right? And then, you know, once. Once the ball is snapped, then, you know, we are. We are fighting hand to hand combat. And then after the play, you might hear a couple things after that, but big boys are so tired, man. We can't say too much down here. We trying to catch our breath, man.

[A]

I love that truth. That's true right there.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it can get real contentious right before the ball snapped, but after that, man, you're too tired, man.

[A]

That's why you're trying to get that three, and that's why you talk most of your trash on three and outs. I'm still fresh.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, man, that is. That's hilarious. Let me ask you this, because we're hearing really good things from a. About a young Justice Terry. Obviously, big things were expected from him, but.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

What are your thoughts on Justice Terry? He. He may be your most disruptive force in the interior D line. Maybe a little undersized, but, you know, it might be a theme on this defense still. Maybe you're best playmaker at the interior D line potentially.

[E]

So I haven't gone to practice yet, man, and I hear people talking. CJ Is saying some things. You know, I got to put my eyes on it, man.

[A]

So I'm.

[E]

I'm gonna give y' all the actual truth whenever I come back and I see him, but I do hear nice, good things about him. So my biggest worry, I told y', all, is the interior tackles and the.

[C]

The interior.

[A]

Really?

[E]

For the tackles in the whole line.

[A]

Yeah, right. The guts.

[E]

The guts, yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Offensive line, too. So. Yeah, I. I think the way they're talking and everything like that. I hope they're not small blowing smoke, but I'll go out there and check it out, see if they're holding their own. Man, I want to. I want to see them play on the other side the ball, you know, I want to see them complimenting Simmons and other linebackers on the other side of the ball playing actual, you know, behind the line of scrimmage defense.

[C]

Well, Stevie, we do need to get you out there, and again, we know that you won't unveil government secrets, but we need to hear about the Stevie stamp of approval, because that is obviously something that carries a lot of weight.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Joe Saya Sharma is an interesting one for me because he earned the nickname Dancing Bear. Look, I don't. I don't know. He's 345, 350 pounds, but folks are saying that he can move really well at that size. That's another one I. I want to hear about the Stevie stamp of approval on. Is Josiah Sharma going into YouTube again?

[E]

I haven't seen him yet, but when I was. They're big. They are big. That's. That's a big one right there. Now, Dancing Bear, that's hard to come by. Like, who was a dancing bear? And we were. It was T. Heels, wasn't it? But Tony Hills got the Dancing Bear name because he used to dance in the club.

[A]

Like,

[E]

he was big, but he was quick. He was good on his. Yeah, he had the rhythm in the club, actually, so he was my literal dancing bear. But, yeah, if you're gonna get the nickname Dancing Bear, you gotta show it, son.

[B]

So.

[A]

I never heard that. Oh, I Gotta talk when I see t heels again. Now I'm breaking that up. That's great.

[E]

The Dancing bear.

[A]

Okay, real quick. I want to ask you this before we let you go. I saw Colin Simmons was on the. Is it Bruce Feldman who does the hundred biggest. Like the 100. The list of the hundred freakiest athletes in college football. And I would say last year Trevor Goosby made it. This year Colin Simmons made it from the Texas roster. He does it from every roster in college football. Just kind of compiles a list of freaks, basically physical freaks in our day who would have been known the list, if it existed in our day as one of the biggest freaks in like you can make the hundred biggest athletic freaks in college football. Who would have made the list in

[E]

our day, the roster that we were on.

[A]

I think I actually got like four or five guys I think would have made it.

[E]

That's exactly what I was gonna say.

[A]

I'm not joking. I'm serious.

[E]

100. That's exactly what I'm gonna say so. Because you can. Quentin Jammer.

[A]

Dude, Quinn jams on my list.

[E]

The freak of nature with him. He can stand up straight and scratch his chins. That's how he has so many PBUs. And then Rory Williams just.

[A]

He's also on the list.

[E]

Yeah, Roy Williams. And guess who else I got? Leonard Davis. Come on.

[A]

He's also on my list.

[E]

Davis, come on. It looked like he had not an ounce of fat on him, but he was truly, he was, he was the modern day Goliath, you know, like that's that.

[A]

You're right about that. Yeah, yeah. He was a mammoth.

[E]

He headbutted me once in practice and I, I, I can never live that down, so. And I love, love, love how shifty. Cedric Benson was. He.

[A]

He. Yeah, yeah.

[E]

The way he ran the ball, it was like magic to me. That was the first time I seen a guy run the ball like that. You know, I'm from Louisiana, where we, we, we. My high school just threw the ball everywhere. So I've never seen a running back like that that'd be so shifty. Get the ball, put his foot in the ground and shift like that. But the freak of nature, those are, those are the, those top three of my. Definitely three. I could probably SC who. Do you have a number?

[A]

I had, I had those three and I put Derek Johnson. I think Derrick Johnson would have made the list.

[E]

Oh yeah. How big he was and can run. He ran down running backs.

[A]

People forget like out of high school. I want to say this dude was running some freakish 100 time, like a 10, 5 or something crazy. It was sick.

[E]

Somebody wrote in the chat or they, they wrote Brian a rackpoe. Yeah, Brian. When I was a senior, he was a red shirt. So I, I didn't put him in there.

[A]

He wasn't our day. Yeah, you're right. He would have made a list, but you're right.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Yes, but. And then someone has Ramon's Taylor right here.

[A]

No question.

[E]

I remember going to Gregory Gym, watching the guys play basketball. And people would tell Ramont to do a right handed windmill. Switch your hands in the left and he would do it in the air. This dude was a freak of nature. He's extremely talented, had bounce. He can do anything on the football field. He can do anything on a basketball court. That was a actual athlete, man. But I didn't play with those guys. I just was, you know, around those guys. So these are the guys I, I got that I played with.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Number one, though, number one hands down to me is Leonard Davis. It's just going to be Leonard Davis, man.

[A]

I love that. No, I put, and I put Sean Rogers on there too, because Sean Rogers was more of an athletic freak than Casey was. Casey was a better football player.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Look at freakish traits. Sean actually had Casey beat with freakish traits. Longer arms, longer wingspan. He actually remember he would like go360 windmill dunks and stuff, doing crazy stuff like in the gym. That dude had 330 pounds, whatever he was. Yeah.

[E]

The only thing that, the only thing that knocked me out. I want to talk bad about my brother, but. And he'll, he'll tell you anyway that he, he would get tired and take a couple plays off.

[A]

Oh, no, no, that was. No, that's why I said Casey was a better player because Casey. Yeah, that was never, not one play did he ever take off. Remember this is. Okay, the quick Casey story. Casey. I remember Mac Brown after we got blown out in 2000 by Oklahoma in a winning national title. We got blown out in that game. Mac. That's one of the first times Mac went and just undressed us. And we deserved it, by the way, after that game. And then Mac said, basically, I kind of undressed myself too, because I, you know, was humiliated as well. And he said he talked to the late great Darryl K. Royal and he said, yeah, Coach, nobody played well. Not one person on my damn roster played well. And then Derek Roy's like, you need to go watch the film. Go watch the film.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And he was like Casey Hampton and then Max Said I went back and watched the film. He was like, all right. One guy played.

[E]

Well,

[A]

That's a great storyteller. And also, before we let you go, the Ramon's Taylor story. Dude, I actually emceed a Ramonce Taylor, like, celebrity basketball game. It was like mirror months got tight, like, back. It was probably. I mean, it was years after you play. It was probably. Maybe. Maybe 10 years ago. I don't even know if it. Maybe 10 years ago, something like that. And dude was still dunking. Dude was balding. They got a ball spot out there looking like an old. Like, you know, he kind of little gimp up to the. To the. To the basketball. Nope. On the court. Nope. When he got on the court, dude was still dunking. And I'm like, bro, what you. Oh, you're old, man now. How are you still dunking? Who. What? I can't even get close to that now. That's how freakish of an athlete the most Taylor is.

[E]

Yeah, man, that.

[A]

That.

[E]

That. The way he. I mean, yeah. I just leave it at that, man.

[A]

He.

[E]

He's just a great freak athlete, man.

[A]

Yeah. All right. Good stuff. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you taking the time. And we'll give a shout out to our friends at Hard Grove, but thank you. And tell that lovely family of yours we said hi.

[E]

Yeah, man, I appreciate the chat and everybody. Letting me and Rod reminisce right now, man, that was the.

[C]

That was fun. Come on.

[E]

I appreciate that, man. Y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

Y' all have a good one, man. And hopefully I get out to practice one of these days. Cj, text me, let me know when you're going out there. I'll go out there, huh?

[C]

All right. We'll get it going.

[E]

All right.

[A]

Thanks, Steve. Appreciate you. Yeah, that's. We just dated ourselves that conversation, too. Thank you to our friends over at Heart Grove Roofing. Our friend Stevie. Stevie would not be on your roof. He's not that. I saw somebody say, let Stevie do the foundation. Don't let him do the roof. He's not on the roof, but he can vouch for the character of the fine folks at Hard Girl Roof. They do a great job. They'll do a great job for you as well. 512-645-3202. Offering a free roof inspection today. Offices all over Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas. But I can promise you, they are the most pro burnt orange roofing company out there. So look no further than Hardgrove roofing dot com. Know who's on your roof with Hard Girl Proofing. All right. Thank you, Steve. I never heard that T. Hill story about the Dancing bear. I like that. That was good. All right, let's get back. Okay. First, we'll do a couple super chats, then we're gonna get back to Sark Audio because there are a couple other nuggets that Sark said at the media availability that I want to get you guys thoughts on. But first, super chats. Who's up? Billy Woods. What's up, Billy? Thank you for the super chat. We really appreciate it says Rob B. Being in the trenches years ago and seeing our talent. What is your walk away in wins and losses? I got 10 and 2. I have not, I will admit this. I've been very inconsistent on what my two losses are. I've gone back and forth.

[B]

I.

[A]

Sometimes I've. I've spoken at a couple of events, and they always asking, hey, what's the record? Who did who. Who you have winning and who you have winning against, who you have them losing against. And they want to play the schedule game pretty much, you know, at these events I go to. And I'll admit I have, I have gone back and forth. All right, I've been inconsistent. Sometimes I had him losing Ohio State, and sometimes I gotta lose the lsu. I think I've had him losing to one of the rivals at one point, because my. The stat coach that I keep giving is that the last coach at Texas to win three straight games against A M and Oklahoma was Daryl K. Royal. It just don't happen very often, and that's something Stark's gonna try to do. So I got 10 and two.

[C]

I mean, look, nine SEC games, plus Ohio State, Rod. I, I don't see an undefeated season. I don't.

[A]

Yeah. Are you, Are you closer to 10 and 2? Are you closer to 11 and 1 or 9 and 3 in your life?

[C]

I was closer to the 11. One, I believe. Whenever we did our, our round table a month or two ago, I had 11, one with a loss late to LSU. And, yeah, you know, I kind of reasoned that a little, you know, in the sense that, you know, you. I, I hate the idea of a good loss. To hell with that, right? But at some point, you know, you see a team lose a game right before the playoffs and everything kind of clicks before a postseason.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Ohio State did that in 2023.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

2024 with the loss to Michigan. And then obviously they smoke Tennessee, they defeat Texas, they win the national championship. But I, I, look, I, I think going on the road to Death Valley, I think it's gonna Be challenging. I think Lane Kiffin's been known to score points against a Kirby smart, will must champ type of defense. So that's one that I've circled as probably the toughest game on the schedule right now. But boy, I, and I know the chat's gonna grill me on this. I keep looking at that game against Oklahoma and say, I think that's going to be right there as a top three toughest game for the Longhorns. Right. Right up there with Ohio State. So if Texas can win two of those three, boy, they're in for a special season.

[A]

Coach, I know you had them undefeated last year. What are you leaning this year, record wise?

[B]

Realistically, 10 and 2, but I'm hopeful of 11 and 1.

[A]

Yeah, I do that because I think you have something.

[B]

Yeah. Stevie and I both said 120 last year.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Remember that? Yeah.

[B]

Line and defensive line.

[A]

So you saw that left guard position struggle a little bit. You're like, oh, that's definitely not going to be undefeated. But no, I, I think they'll have a lot of. I think not a lot, but I think you'll have one score, you'll probably have five one score games this season. Five to six games that are within one score, eight points. And I think you'll end up having to have maybe one or two kind of like you did last year, a fourth quarter game winning drive or a fourth quarter comeback of some sort. That's just because you just play such a tough schedule. It's going to be one of them games where you're gonna, they're gonna be playing their best game and you're gonna have an off game, by the way. Don't mean you can't win Mississippi State. Mississippi State played one of the best games of the season, if not their best game. And you had a terrible first, like three quarters and still found a way to win the game. Kentucky was like that too. So that's, that's how football go. Yeah.

[B]

Hey, let's get the chat going here. I want everybody to join in the chat and tell us your best guess at what C.J. stands for. Oh, hell, the great C.J. bowl.

[A]

Oh, my God. I don't even. I, I'm not gonna lie.

[C]

Serious and cool reads are only. We don't need to be coming up with some crazy acronym.

[A]

Yeah, we can't read it. He's crazy.

[C]

Cisco.

[B]

Hey, you remember the Seinfeld episode?

[A]

What?

[B]

Nobody knew Kramer's first name.

[A]

Cosmo, so I'm gonna say Cosmo.

[B]

James V.

[A]

Cosmo. Oh, my God. If Y' all think Cosmo. You are now Cosmo. Oh, man, if he's Cosmo, coach, he's Cosmo for life now with me. I'm never gonna call you C.J. again. You'll be.

[B]

We just went off the tracks on this.

[A]

No, I love it. No, I love this is this. No, this is priority number one. Cedric James is good. Cedric James is good. Was in the chat, coach, before you introduced this topic.

[B]

Oh, Christian James.

[A]

Now, Is he a pimp? I mean, what?

[C]

Some of these names are pretty creative. I'll be honest.

[A]

Cornelius, Jameson. I mean, it could be CJ Isn't Daryl K. Royal. Isn't it just K? Like, the middle name is just K. We don't stand.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I think it just stand. Like, literally. I think I remember hearing they're like, are you serious? Like, no, it's just cat. Like, no, we gotta stand for something.

[B]

Like.

[A]

No, I think it's just.

[C]

Now, it's not that, but that would be kind of cool too.

[B]

We'll find out what we're about to call. So you have to stay on our live stream to find out.

[A]

Cadillac James. Cadillac J. Now, that's a cool name. Mama Vogel's like, no, the problem is I. I don't.

[E]

I don't.

[C]

I wouldn't have had the speed to back up being named Cadillac.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, man. Yes, true. That's good point. You gotta be an athlete.

[B]

Your name Cadillac.

[A]

Yeah, true.

[C]

Well, that.

[A]

That.

[C]

That's all right. Let me just say, I don't have the style to back up being named Cadillac.

[A]

Oh, man. I gotta tell you, I. A cj. Yeah, it could just be C. Cj. Spell it out. I. I am, like, dumbfounded, stupefied. I did not know. Coach, do you know what it is That a white man can't jump joke. Hold up, Coach, do you know what it is? Is that why you have no idea?

[B]

I already gave you my guess.

[A]

Cookie J. I don't know. I don't think. CJ have you ever revealed what it is, cj?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Dang.

[C]

Eight o'. Clock. I will. Right as we get off. I will.

[B]

Oh, okay. So, yes, she did work for Sewell dealership. So Cadillac is definitely a possibility.

[A]

That would be awesome if it was Cadillac. Talk about nil deals. We can get that done.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Cadillac Davidson.

[B]

Bogle third. No, he'd be Trey if it was that.

[A]

The third Clyde Jones. Oh, man, if CJ was a Clyde, I'd also would appreciate that.

[C]

I'd be saying the hell with cj. Y'. All are calling me Clyde.

[A]

At least you appreciate how cool Clyde is.

[C]

I have a top hat, a cane. Every Clyde that's ever had, that's ever lived has had a top hat and a cane. They had swag.

[A]

Clyde is one of the names where. Yeah, it fits for you to wear like a nice cool hat. You. You shop at a. What they call them a haberdashery for your hand. That's how good. Cinnamon jelly roll. What is he.

[C]

I'm putting together a three piece suit just to go to the store.

[A]

Calvin Johnson is actually a simple. But simple and to the point. Okay, I would say this, C.J. if your first name Corn Jerry, if your first name is cooler than cj, I'm just gonna call you that, man. I gotta call you a Christian name because it's really cool. But you said Esther Jefferson.

[C]

I don't think.

[A]

Oh, man, it's nothing.

[C]

That's crazy. It's not been mentioned. The first name. Actually. I don't think either coverage dramatic here.

[A]

Wow. All right. Bad idea.

[B]

Sorry. Dj

[C]

I. I am glad. Coach, we haven't seen Sandman in here for the last five minutes, so.

[A]

Oh, he's cooking something up. That's what Sam. He's trying to eat. He's waiting on the big reveal. He's gonna throw out his one liner. You know how he likes to do it.

[C]

It's. It's not been mentioned yet. And I'm either name hasn't been mentioned yet. I'm kind of surprised.

[A]

Whoa, we way off. Looks y' all joking around though. Y' all not even being serious. I just hang Chevrolet Jackson. That is a great name. Jackson is a great name. Damn, I was wish when you have

[B]

a boy, you got lots of cjs out there.

[A]

Yeah. Jesus. Corn Dog Jackson is not bad either. Oh, man.

[B]

Okay, let's get back on track.

[A]

Honestly now I can't think about anything else. Coach, now you've hijacked my brain. All I can think about is what? Because this.

[C]

Coach, this would have been a great May or July.

[A]

It really was. I don't have coach like the training camp to talk about this.

[C]

Oh, we do have a first name. Someone's got the first name.

[A]

What is it? Cletus?

[C]

Austin T. He's got the first name.

[A]

Oh, Clay.

[C]

That's it. We got a ding ding, ding middle name we gotta work on.

[A]

Clay is okay. I did not expect that. I didn't see Clay coming. Okay.

[C]

Where'd go, mom?

[A]

Way to go, Clay Jr. No, Clay is good though. Okay. All right, we'll Hit the super chats and see. And maybe somebody will get in the meantime. And then we'll hit that start cut before we get out of here, too, because I want to hit that.

[C]

Marco.

[A]

Marco. Polo.

[B]

Clay. Jordan.

[A]

Jordan. You're at Jordan. Oh, man.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

We do have a winner. Well done. Well done, Marco.

[A]

Y' all like the name Jordan? Clay Jordan. That is actually a cool name. Props to Mama Vogel. I like the name. I like. I like the Christian name.

[C]

Clay Jordan. Look, I liked it, too. Glad my dad was calling me CJ before I was born. Really got the. Had an opportunity to go by Clay.

[A]

So you never were a Clay?

[C]

No, never. No.

[A]

In, like, the world. Interesting.

[C]

Maybe teachers and substitutes.

[A]

Maybe you can do your alter ego, man. Yeah, I mean, Clay. All right, that's. That's worthy of a woo. That's more than a Rick Flair woo right there. We finally figured out CJ's Christian name. We love that. And mama. And Mama Vogel is hanging out with us, so we appreciate that, too. All right, Lisa. Mama Vogue said we came up with that name, but Daddy called him CJ before he left the hospital. The middle. So no Clay ever, maybe. Have you ever?

[B]

Only when you were in trouble.

[C]

Yeah, well, it doesn't happen, too.

[A]

I wonder when you get. When you get married, your wifey. What wifey's gonna call you whenever you get married. Wifey might go. Clay. Wifey might go old school because wifey might want to be different than everybody else. Just so you know. That's. That's. That's a thing. I would oh the hell out of him in high school. Why? Because he was Clay Jordan. Clay Jordan's got some swag to it.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

I mean, Jordan in the middle. That's.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's swag. Coach. Coach appreciates that because Coach like the name Jordan, too. All right, let's get back to the super chats here. Thank you. See, Coach hijacked the show with a great topic. All right, all right, all right, all right. Says anybody who talked trash at first but kept their mouth shut after getting humbled. Y' all don't have to name names. Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think of guys that happened to a lot that talk. We're talking trash, and it got humbled like a situation specifically. It's tough because usually your trash talk is in football, it's directed at, you know, somebody like. You're not just trucking trash at a whole offense. Well, maybe you're like Casey Hampton. You are. But I was never Casey Hampton. So I'm not talking trash to the whole offense. I'm usually talking to one specific wide receiver and I was pretty reserved. I usually waited till I made plays before I started talking trash. I was just gonna talk trash. I was pretty reserved. I started making some plays and then you probably couldn't shut me up after that.

[B]

The DBs that I've seen that talk trash and get burned, they're. They point to somebody else like, hey,

[A]

man, that was your guy. Oh, you do this, coach, you like, you put your hands up like.

[B]

Or look back at the receiver, looks like the quarterback.

[A]

What's up? What am I helping? You're in man to man. What you mean, what am I helping? I never did that though. I, I would. If anybody knows CB Wood, I. I got beat. I never looked back and try to blame somebody else when I got beat. I don't think might have done it. If I did it, it was actually warranted. Somebody, they, somebody did not help me or they were supposed to help. All right, good question there. I Charlo man says tell us why the Tennessee game will be difficult and why Texas can win. Jim knows. Jim Knowles has had a lot of success with his system versus Sark, whether at Oklahoma State or whether Ohio State sarcas yet to win that chess match. And he is now the defensive coordinator for Tennessee. That's one little nugget.

[C]

Yeah. Desean Bishop, that run game, you know that that's a scheme that isn't very fun to scheme against that offensive scheme with Josh Hypo. Look, they spread the field, they go quick. They like to run the football to establish things. And look it, it's gonna be twofold here, right? Desean Bishop ran for a thousand yards, 1076 yards, I believe is what it was a year ago. He's returning as one of the more experienced, productive running backs in this room. And I think that offensive line is very solid. Now it's a gimmicky offense again. It's a lot of half field RPOs, a lot of speed, a lot of space. Getting the running game going is going to be key. And Tennessee has to get the run game going because whoever the quarterback is, whether it's Faison, Brandon, whether it's George McIntyre, that's going to be either a redshirt freshman or a true freshman. Making their fourth ever start against Colin Simmons and Rashim Biles and the rest of this Texas defense, I know they're playing at home, but that's not, you know, that, that, that's not an easy thing to do. So that's kind of the reason for hesitancy. But that offense, they know how to score points. They, they've done it. I mean I think they dropped 38 or 40 on Georgia a year ago. So that's kind of the baseline that I look at and say can you play with a new quarterback? We'll see very early if they can.

[A]

Good stuff. CJ thank you for the super chat. We appreciate it. Next up is Kelly, I believe is Kelly there? Thank you for the super chat.

[D]

Kelly.

[A]

Who are some of the young bucks who no one is talking about because not expected to play much when you watch them practice points to a bright future. I think there are a few guys and that's a great question. Thank you for the super chat. I feel like there are a few guys that been mentioned in the practice reports that I don't think they're going to have a huge impact this season. But you can tell coaches are already pleasantly surprised with their early progress.

[C]

I think Cosio, Paula comes to mind first. You know, we've talked about him on the channel a number of times. I know Jerry's written about him. We, we did a video last night with Jeff Howe as well. Just kind of breaking down where the tears are. I think he's ascending into that Derek Cooper, Jermaine Bishop, Richard Wesley kind of tier when it comes to overall, you know, just exceeding expectations in year one. And I'll throw this name out as well, Rod, because I know that you watched his tape coming out of high school, but given that there's a little bit of uncertainty at the moment at the safety spot, right. There are snaps for grabs at the moment. Kenneth Ray Davis make an impact. Can he be a guy? Because you go back to his, his, you know, big thing coming out of Colorado, he was a two way player, I believe set records or had like a seven or eight touchdown game as a wide receiver. Not to mention he added an interception or two in that saying it was an unbelievable like yeah, you couldn't script it on the video game. But if he's someone that can, you know, kind of claw out some, some burn this year as a true freshman, I think that would bode very well for his long term career at Texas.

[A]

Not ball skills and instincts. Look, his ball skills and instincts are next level. He's got really good ball skills and his instincts are fantastic. And as a safety position, I mean they're really could help him, you know, make plays earlier but also be somebody that can like you said, separate when he does get those few snaps to Impress. He can be one of those guys that really can make a, make a splash impression. All right, thank you for that super chat, Kelly. We appreciate it. Next up is Clayton. Coach, I'll throw this one at you, says, hey fellas, I heard Josh Pate saying that this is championship or bust for start this year. If we don't win the ship, he may be looking for a new job. Thoughts? Hell of a job as always, guys.

[B]

I wouldn't, I wouldn't go that far. Definitely play, you know, couple rounds in the playoffs, I think at, at a minimum, I, I would think. But even at that, with the talent on this team, I don't know how, I don't know how. Unless it's just a horrible year that obviously points, you know, to the offensive play calling. I think that would be the next step. The first step would be bringing a full time play caller, you know, and see, see how, you know, you don't just fire a guy, you know, they always give him a do over. And so a head coach will hire another coordinator or whatever. Whether it's offense or defense or whatever. We've got the new defensive coordinator in. I would think that would be the next step. If the offense struggles this year. Year, I think you look at a full time offensive coordinator.

[C]

Hey, coach, have you ever, I don't like phrasing it like this, but have you ever been around an offense or a team, maybe one side of the football where you just feel like there's too much talent to fail? Like, is that ever a thought process? That, hey, our guys are just that good sometimes they'll just bail me out?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. But it's a very dangerous way to feel as a head coach. You know, you've got to feel like, okay, what am I going to do if this is shut down? What do I do if this is shut down? What do I do if they take this away from me? And that's a job as a play caller. Whether you're offensive or defensive, is being able to have a counter to what they're doing. Because as talented, for example, as our receiver room is, our top three or four guys, you know, one of the top three receiver rooms in the country in my opinion. You know, what if they did something? What's the answer going to be, you know, to that? Because you can't expect, you know, we've all seen the, you know, Cam's great one handed catch, you know, and all that stuff. You think, well, that guy's going to bail me out. I promise you those Coaches aren't thinking that way. They're not thinking, yeah, these guys are going to bail me out if I have an off game. You can't have an off game. There's no room in the schedule to have an off game.

[A]

Right. Yeah, no, I, I agree with you on that, Coach. I think Sark has earned, you know, the trust, right. That if they don't meet expectations here and the only reason, the only way you can call this season a failure, if they don't make the playoffs, it's a failure. You make the playoffs, give you a chance, a shot at the championship, you know, hey, then you just, you know, you're going to be as great teams on your way to championship every week. So that's the only way it can be a disappointment for me if they don't make the Coswell playoff, which I think they will. And Sark should have his best offense at Texas. I agree with Coach on that too. If he doesn't have his best offense this year. Okay, maybe we do need to reconsider the play caller thing because he should have his best offense. He should have a top 20 top 15 offense defense this season.

[E]

Yeah,

[C]

he might have four top 15 top 20 picks. Right. That level of high, high end college football talent is there. Not making the College Football Playoff would be a catastrophe.

[A]

Agreed. Yeah, that's what somebody's got to answer for that if they don't make the College Football Playoff and they're this talented. But I don't think we're having that discussion. And I don't think we're gonna need to have that discussion. Okay, before we get out of here, I want to hit this. I wonder if CJ Hit this quote from Sark. Speaking of receivers and the offense, this is why the expectations are so high for this offense. And Cam Coleman in particular being one of those guys.

[E]

C.J.

[C]

yeah, he, he was asked today has he ever seen or coached a wide receiver that he could relate Cam Coleman to? Of course, it's coming on the heels of what was one of the more ridiculous camp highlight catches that I've seen in recent memory. Of course, running over the middle, Cam Coleman leaping backward, almost grabbing a ball one handed that was thrown behind him. What a great pass. But just coming down with that, finishing the play, running into the end zone. I know it wasn't, you know, fully thud or tackle or anything, anything like that, but he was asked, hey, what's the closest wide receiver that you've seen to him in all your years of coaching? Julio Jones was mentioned by Steve Sarkeesh

[D]

sounds crazy catch man. I don't, I don't know. Like, I tried to check his gloves, thought it was the old school.

[A]

Stick him on there.

[D]

That was a heck of a play.

[C]

How does this catch radius compare to other receivers that you've coached? And that's give you more confidence to

[B]

play caller and more confidence for Arch too.

[D]

I think that's one of his strengths, right? I mean, everybody's got strengths and weaknesses in their game. And one of his strengths is his catch much radius, but beyond that, it's the balance and body control. There's a lot of tall receivers with long arms, but it's his ability to have the right balance and body control and timing on balls, you know, because you can have a high pass, but to time your jump, to contort your body and then to have the ability to make a catch like that, I just think speaks to the kids catch radius but also the, the body control to, to. To make those types of plays. And then the hands, right? I mean you have to have the ability to catch it too. I would probably say Julio Jones at Atlanta, Julio was similar that way, you know, that, that had that ability to go make those high point, those balls the way that he does and you know, and still be a vertical threat like, like camp can still run. You know, he's not a possession guy. He can run and Julio was that way.

[C]

I mean, that's high praise because you talk about what the top three or four wide receivers of the last 20 years are. I mean, it's Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, I would say Antonio Brown is in that conversation. Those are who you lead the conversation with now. A long way to go for Cam Coleman to even be mentioned in that name. But hey, you see the physical trait and the one thing I love that Sark mentioned at the very end of that is, hey, but he can run with the ball afterward because he did not do that at Auburn, right? There wasn't much opportunity for him to create with his legs, with the ball in hands. Given the offense, given the quarterback, given just the situation he was in entirely. Now I'm looking at it a little different. If that is something that Texas can unlock with Cam Coleman is the true athleticism after the catch, I would love it because Julio Jones is. I mean, again, that's as good as it gets.

[A]

Coach, you know wide receivers better than any of us. What are your thoughts about hearing? Start comparing the. It's Julio Jones and then after seeing that cat. I don't think I've heard your thoughts on on the catch, the viral catch, either.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

It's incredible. I'm afraid to ask who threw that ball behind him like that. You know, all I've seen is like the rest of our viewers, you know, what, what we post and things like that. I have not been to practice yet, but it's really exciting. Jackson was at practice today and I said, who stood out to you? And he said, cam Coleman is a beast. That's all he said.

[C]

Hey, that's a sign of approval. Come on.

[A]

So, yeah, that's. To our, to our audience. Hey, that, that stamp. Approval matters. And I'll say just the one thing that I'll say before we wrap up that conversation. I remember Chris Jackson saying when he spoke to the media that by the time it's all said and done, you'll see there's no weaknesses and flaws to his game. Because right now it's like, well, he doesn't have any Yak yards in his career, right? Look at his Yak opportunities. Look, he doesn't move around. He's not in the slot.

[E]

You can't.

[A]

He doesn't have position fluidity. He doesn't have access to the entire route tree. Those were limitations. More of the offense and not of the skill set. And I think he's saying no, no. By the time he's done here in Sark's offense, we putting him in the SL spot. We gonna put them flex, we're gonna put them in a minus way. We're gonna put them in bunches. We're gonna. He only had one target behind the line of scrimmage last season. 1. Sorry, sorry. Gonna give him like, I don't know, probably 12 to 15 of those to see if he can just be a yak daddy, form like easy completions so his job will be easier. He was. He had to work harder, not smarter necessarily. At Urban and Sark's office is a work smarter and not harder offense for the wide receivers. So I think he'll be. I think he'll end up closing the gap on Jeremiah Smith. He won't be drafted ahead of Jeremiah Smith. That's not gonna happen. But can he close the gap between him and Jeremiah Smith? I think so. All right, before we get out of here, this is the super chat of the night in regards to the conversation coach brought up about what was CJ's. What does CJ stand for? We found out it was Clay Jordan. His mama called him Clay. I'm gonna call him Clay. Well done. All right, all right, all right. That's fantastic.

[D]

Well, Done.

[A]

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