
Bobby Burton, Rod Babers, and Jerry Hamilton take a big-picture look at the current state of the Texas football program heading into the 2026 season. The crew evaluates the Longhorns’ roster, coaching staff, and overall program alignment, with Bobby...
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Bobby Burton
What is the state of the University of Texas football program? That's the question we're going to answer today. I'm Bobby Burton, joined by Jerry Hamilton and Rod Babers on this episode of On Texas Football, brought to you by our friends over at the Lowy law firm, Jerry and Rod. When I ask what the state of the program is right now and the football program at the University of Texas, while we have a video every mo. Every week that discusses the topic and aspects of the topic, rarely do we look at the whole thing. And that's what I want to do. Here we are, second week of July, still figuring things out, but as we go into the 2026 season, I. I felt like this was a good time to. To address it. There are three real aspects of a football program, right? There's. There's the talent, there's the coaching. So that's two. Then there's the culture and everything that goes around it to either support the football program or to try to rip it away, you know, and I wanted to talk to you guys about all three of those aspects today and where we think Texas is. Let's start from a roster standpoint. I've been on record, I think this is the best roster Texas has had in 20 years. Some of that has to do with them connecting on high school recruiting, connecting on portal recruiting. Some of it has to do with just straight up retention, right? But if you're sitting there asking me, how do you grade this roster? Right now, I'm Giving it an A to an A because I don't see many weak spots. Jerry, you've been covering this long time. Rod, you've been a member of the teams back going back to the late 90s, early 2000s, where y' all were really talented. I want to ask y' all both the talent on this team, if you're looking as at the state of the program, do you think it's an A, A plus or am I just whistling Dixie?
Jerry Hamilton
I have it as an A. I'm not. And here's the reason I'm not going to go A plus yet, because we don't know what everybody else has around the country. We are very familiar with Texas, but that doesn't mean they're the most talented team in the country. A lot of people are calling them that, but I think that's click baitish right now. Until you see what does an LSU talent look like they've assembled on their roster because it's an unknown, but I think it's an A and I think it's a solid A because you're going to have 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 NFL draft picks if they stay healthy and you have a productive season. And I think from freshman classes all the way through the portal, guys, the senior classes, I think this is a solid A roster. Rod, I'm not ready to go A quite yet because I want to see what everybody else has around the country too before I give an A out to somebody.
Bobby Burton
What about you, Rod?
Jerry Hamilton
You, you, you agree with that or
Bobby Burton
where you, where you sit on this scale? Because it's a hard discussion to, to kind of pick nits between A, A plus or even A minus. What are you thinking?
Rod Babers
Yeah, I, I agree with you guys. I think it's definitely an A at this point. I think most of the people in the around the country, nationally would look at the roster and have about it. And you know, going back to what you said, Bobby, I do think this is as talent rich as the Texas roster has been since the peak of the Mac Brown days. And, and the beauty of the Mac Brown peak was it lasted, it was, you know, it lasted a while. Right? It was right like that. Matt Brown peak was like a seven, eight year kind of peak. And that's what I think Sark is hoping to, to have that kind of sustained peak for a while. And that's why I think that was. And we'll get to it about some of the other changes. But it was such urgency about what happened. Sark may have saw that as a regression in that and him peaking as a program. But talent wise, there's no doubt. What I love about the talent and roster construction, just paying attention to the NFL because I'm a big NFL fan, the premium positions. All right. And Jerry talked about the NFL draft in Texas. You know, is projected to have one of the greatest, if not the greatest draft for Texas in the modern era of football coming up next season. Well, next draft, we'll see how that works out. But look at the premium positions. Arch Manning of the top quarterbacks in the country. That's the premium position. Look at edge. You might have the best edge slash defender overall in college football in a Colin Simmons, right, premium position. Cam Coleman. Yes. Behind Jeremiah Smith as the second wide receiver prospect in that draft. But he can, he can, he can close that gap. All right. Between he and Jeremiah Smith before the NFL draft, you got the left tackle, you got Trevor Goosby, who may be in the conversation to be the top left tackle coming out in that draft. So you look at a lot of these premium positions, and that's where I think they've done a great job of building and stacking the roster because that's where they're most talented. If you look at, compared to their peers across the country. Is that those most premium positions, where the NFL looks at those guys as your big money makers, how you. The foundational pieces, you build the team around.
Bobby Burton
You're saying this and look, Texas hasn't had three top 15 draft picks in the modern era. They certainly haven't had four of the top 20. Right. And, and some people are, are projecting that in this team. And so what I would say to, to just add on to what Rod is talking about is that you haven't, you've had high, high level talent, what, 11 or 12 draft picks a couple years ago you've had those guys. You haven't had them in this number. And these, this many difference makers or projected different, I think that that's a little different. The other thing I want to bring up as part of rosters is I really believe that they've connected not just on one aspect of it. Like there are teams that are great in the portal. There are teams that are great in high school recruiting. There are teams that are great at retention. There Texas seems to be. I don't know if they're number one in any of those, but combined the three of them, I think they may be fighting like Ohio State for number one in that category. Jerry, you follow recruiting as much as I do and team portal transfers that sort of stuff. Do you agree with that contention that that's kind of been setting Texas apart? It's not necessarily that they're doing well in one area of roster construction, but multiple areas.
Jerry Hamilton
Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, and look, and, and you mentioned Ohio State. Ohio State and Texas should be doing that. They're top two or three nil programs. It's kind of like you don't have an excuse not to. But you still have to go put it together, right? I mean it's, it's easy to say oh, Texas and Ohio State just have the most money but you still have to go put it together. You have to make decisions, you have to evaluate well. And I think Texas is doing a really good job of that, especially with this roster because there's always going to be lessons to be learned in Portal continuously as this evolves and changes. Now you got five year rule, you're going to have another piece thrown into this next year in recruiting out of the Portal who has a fifth year. But I think what Texas has done, especially with this roster, I think they've done a really good job from a high school standpoint. I really like what they've added from a high school standpoint in this class and I think they've matched it and meshed it well with the Portal class and in the needs in the program on both sides of it from Portal and high school. I know it's easy to say well high school you just need somebody in every class. That's not the way it is anymore. That not because of Portal. Portal changes the game of having 28 signees and making sure you hit on every position in every class. It's not that way anymore when you can just go to the Portal if you're a Texas or Ohio State, get a great player to position. So I think what they've done is they balanced it very well. I think their in house department is doing a really good job. I think it's a more difficult task than it being talked about. You know it's Ohio, Texas and Ohio State just the most talented team because they have the most money. Just it doesn't work that way. You still have to build it right? I mean Duncanville has 30 talent, Division 1 football players over there. But Rashad coach Samples has to bring the thing together and put the right pieces on the field and bring up the guys, the freshman, the varsity, it's no different. But I think, I think Texas is doing a really good job with high school through Portal recruiting. And I think this roster and it's why you guys are talking about this roster being the best. This roster is the best combination of all of that at premium positions and still having a lot of key developmental players in the high school class A jamarian. Carlton's very talented. You don't have to see him this year much. You can develop that guy, but he was a very important piece to this class. You can go up and down positions. John Turntine, very talented. You're not going to see him on the field much, if any, this year, but it doesn't mean he's not really good and you're developing him to be the next potential starting left tackle. So I think Texas is doing a great job balancing from all perspective in recruiting.
Bobby Burton
Yeah, I agree and I think retention is a key piece of that because you look at the backbone of the team and you Rod, went over those three guys in Gooseby Manning as well as Simmons, all home home brewed or homegrown so to speak. But you also have guys like Alex January, Lance Jackson, Tianthony Smith, Jelani McDonald. You know, you even look at Ryan Wingo in that category there. It's they're, they're combing all of them together that in such a really strong way that I think is important. Rod, I want to go to you with this second piece and that's coaching. I think we all agree that it's an A on on recruiting and talent roster construction. Coaching. Texas is one of very few teams in the across the country that have won 10 games in three consecutive seasons, two Final Fours or two semifinals in the last three seasons. A 10 win year last year starting a new quarterback. Even so Steve Sarkeesian decided to, you know, go to the he, he went to the bullpen and brought in and brought in Will Muschamp over. Pete Rakowski also made a move at the running back. Coach Jabar Jaluk added and Chad Scott moved out. What do you make of the coaching situation right now at Texas? You feel like it's on firm footing and like championship level footing in Europe.
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Rod Babers
I think Sark is doing a good job of tweaking the model and the blueprint as he goes through like as the ecosystem has changed, right went from the Big 12 to the SEC as now the standard and the expectations have changed because now for most people and I think even for Sark now he's a prisoner of his own Excellence. It's either, hey, you should be a semi final team in the playoff or competing for a championship. But those are standards that he has actually set because that's how good he's been coaching wise. He's right outside the elite coaches, right? He's got to go start beating the Kirby smarts of the world and the Ryan Days of the world, right, and the elite coaches in college football. And that's. And that's. I think that's where Sark is and I think he's done a good job. Just kind of like Mack did, right? Mac was tweaking that model up until, oh, five. There was some coach changes, y' all remember, a few here and there that helped finally put the program over the top and infused the program with things it needed at the time that it was missing, right? They were exposed by meetings against Oklahoma or meetings in the postseason. And I think Sark has done that too. That's why bringing in guys like Mus Champ, who knows who was born and bred in the SEC and knows that ecosystem really well. And so I was like, yeah, I need that. Because those road games for me, we looked a little shell shocked at times. Bringing in a guy like Jabar Jaluk, who is known for his toughness, right, and his intensity, start maybe thinking, you know what? I'm not really that guy. That's not what I do. But I need to bring in some guys on my staff that got that fight of fire. They get that, you know, that continuously. That's who they are. It's part of their DNA. That's something I think he wanted to infuse the team with. So I just think he's tweaking the model. He wants a more aggressive defense. I mean, that was obvious from what he was asking of PK in 2025. I think he's gonna even take that to another level, right? Even more so with Must Champ and his aggressive style of defense, wanting to, you know, set the tone and dictate the tempo of games, rather than organic disruption, organic pressure, something that PK likes to depend on. So I think that's what you're watching now. Some people thought, oh man, PK was doing a good job. I think Sark is looking for someone to help put the program over. And that's the same way Mac did. You bring in these different ideologies, different philosophies, these different personalities that may be the perfect combination or concoction what your team may be lacking, whether that's in personality, whether that's an identity, whatever it is. And I think we all saw Texas on the road last season. Sec. There was some toughness lacking. There was some intensity lacking, and it took them a while to almost grow into it and develop it as a team. Like, oh, man, this is part of the sec. Yeah. And now you got some real road games that you haven't had as a program maybe ever to experience, you know, at lsu, at Tennessee. Perfect time to infuse the program with those kind of identity defining traits which some of these coaches are bringing in.
Bobby Burton
Hey, Jerry.
Jerry Hamilton
So you basically like.
Bobby Burton
Like the. The group of coaches right now? I feel like they're in firm footing. I think that's fair to say. Yeah, I do, too. Hey, Jerry, where do you come out on. On how they've got this coaching. Sark's got the coaching situation set up?
Jerry Hamilton
I think the. The defensive staff is now built for the sec, which is still number one. You still got to make the playoff. So I really like where the defensive staff is this. And I do want to always. I'm going to keep cautioning this. It doesn't mean. And you don't have to be a miracle worker, but I think there's a thought. Oh, well, Muschamps here. Texas is going to go 13 0. It doesn't work that way. I mean, look at the teams they're playing. But I think the. And the quarterbacks are playing, the offensive talent they're playing. I think if you finish top 15 in total defense, that's amazing. On the schedule Texas is playing, that's kind of where I have some circle, but I like the staff that's put together for the sec. To Rod's point, I think Will Muschamps, an SEC lifer that's always been in physical programs. Yep, physical. Nick Saban, Kirby. Smart. They won on physicality as much as they did town. They have to have a talent level, obviously, but they won on physicality. They won the line of scrimmage. They won on mentality, and I love that. I think Blake Gideon's a mentality guy, too. Fits perfect with Will. Must champ. I think Kenny Baker is that way. Kenny Baker is that way. He's an SEC guy. It didn't mean he played or coached in the sec, but he's grown up in the sec. I think they have a really good defensive staff that's built for the sec, which has to be goal number one before you can even chase the biggest ones. So I like that. I look, I like the offensive continuity, too. I. I think that's the one thing is, you know, you have, you had. Kyle Flood remains with Steve Sarkeesian. A.J. milwe remains with Steve Sarkeesian. Chris Jackson is now multiple years at wide receiver. Jeff Banks has been on the staff the whole time. I do think the continuity there is, is important. So I think it, I think Sark's built this staff that is especially defensively built for the sec. I think that's the one thing he's done and changed. And I'll say the other thing for Sark himself, guys, is, you know, this year six, year seven of the program is normally when guys win a national championship, get to a national championship game. Kirby six won it. Ryan Day year six won it. Dabo at different time was eight years, right? I mean so you can look at it. But in that six, seven, Jim Harbaugh was eight full seasons. You got to throw covet out. That really what didn't count for anything in college football that year. So six, six, seven years is where you get to that point, guys, where if you're going to climb the mountaintop, it's easily seen. Even if you don't win it, you get to it maybe losing the game and come back and win it a year or two later. I think this is, this is the year for a head coach where it begins really defining in their tenure.
Bobby Burton
That's a good, good point, Jerry. All right, before we get to the last point which I'm going to call like support slash, you know, off field ideology. Is everything in, is everything around the state of the program moving in the right direction? I want to say thank you to our sponsor. That's Adam Lowy over at the Lowy law firm. If you've been injured, car wreck, truck, a car wreck, truck wreck, automobile accident of any kind, from ATV to 18 Wheeler. Make sure you reach out to Adam and his Firm over@lowelawfirm.com they'll give you a free no strings attached consultation to see if you might be due compensation. Once again, that is lowelawfirm.com thank you Adam for your ongoing sponsorship of On Texas Football. Rod and Jerry, My next point is this one of the things that I believe has to happen around a football program to really gauge the value of the state of the program. Is momentum positive? You know it. That's not just from the strength and conditioning and recruiting and the coaches. But are there any big off field issues that are sidetracking you? Is the AD in your corner nowadays? Is Nil in your corner? Right. All of these off field things combine to contribute, I think to where people perceive a program to Be like right now, I can tell you Georgia's programs perceived to be one place, but with all these off field car issues that they've had, could be something else. Right. You have that lingering. Does Texas. I, I have a hard time remembering a time where Texas was as on the same page right now as they have been in, in almost every aspect because there's not a lot. The only thing this off season was the whole Texas Tech brouhaha and I'm not so sure that that didn't take some of the pressure off of an Arch Manning. Yeah. Conversation off of him this, this season. What do you all make of the.
Jerry Hamilton
The support.
Bobby Burton
I. I don't want to say supporting staff, but just the general support and situation of the team right now.
Rod Babers
Rod, I, I hate to keep bringing up old Mac Brown, but. And I'll bring him up because he used to reference the old late, great Daryl K. Royal quote about the BBS in the box.
Bobby Burton
All right.
Rod Babers
It's like, man, we got. When all the BBs are in the box, you know, Texas, the Texas football program is almost unstoppable. It is a, it is a true reckoning, as CDC would say. And it does feel like that old saying that Mag used to say, we got to get the BBS back in the box. And, and what he's talking about is the fans are part of that. And then the support staff and the administration and you know, behind the scenes donors.
Bobby Burton
The donors.
Rod Babers
Oh yeah. Big part of it. A lot of the people, the big money boosters, like all of those different elements of the program, strength and conditions have all of them, Those are the BBs and there's a lot of them and they're. And then when Texas is at its worst, Tom Herman, Charlie Strong days, man, those BBs are all over the damn place and it's really hard to gather them all up. But it seems like right now, between, you know, the president and cdc, you know, L type whoever, whatever you per person or group behind the scenes, that. That is very influential in the Texas football program. And honestly, I'll just say Texas athletics at this point, it feels like. It feels the BBs are in the box. And that's what I thought about when you start talking about like, man, it seems like I have all the momentum, everything is heading in the right direction and everybody seems like they're on the same page. Players, coaches, you know, administrative staff, all that. That's what I feel like the old Mac Brown, Derek Royer, Croat, getting the BB's back in the box start to Use it.
Bobby Burton
But it's a good. What do you think, Jerry?
Jerry Hamilton
This is where I give this conversation 100 perfect grade. And here's why I say that. Because a. Texas. Texas football is what we're talking about here. But you could go to Sean Miller and basketball, run it. They have everything they need to go chase a national championship.
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Yeah.
Jerry Hamilton
And be the best. First time we've said that in basketball. But we're focused on football here. So let's think from a football perspective. Okay. New indoor facility. Great.
Bobby Burton
Okay.
Jerry Hamilton
You keep adding. You keep adding things to continually give a head coach and a staff the best possible outcome. Right. You keep adding to your facilities when you need to. But if you just think about the Texas football program, start with cdc. What he's done around a game day. It's an unbelievable. It's a great environment. That's a. That's an A plus plus, right? Yeah. Bevo Boulevard. You have the. The on the. In stadium, in game environment, it's as good as you can ask for. Then it's up to the crowds to bring the noise. Right. But it's everything a coach could ask for. You go to a coach's staff, hey, you need to add. And another guy to your scouting department will make that happen. He's literally a football coach at Texas, has everything they can ask for right now, period. Need a little. Need an IL to go get an extra guy to the portal. It's really impactful. Yeah, we'll get that done for you. There's literally nothing you can point at right now and say, a football coach at the University of Texas or in Ohio State doesn't have at their disposal to go out and maximize their program. So I give that 100. Bobby mentioned that the. The nil. The donor support you talked about Tory Beckton, and, hey, I need this new toy for my strength and conditioning program. Okay. You got it. It's like everything you need to go win. Like, so I give Chris Del Conte University a perfect grade on that, because whether Steve Sarkeesian wins a national championship or not, when he leaves the University of Texas, the one thing he will have to say is, I had everything I needed to go chase it.
Rod Babers
Yeah.
Jerry Hamilton
I literally was given everything I need to go chase it. And that's. You got to give somebody a perfect grade on that.
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Podcast: On Texas Football
Host: Bobby Burton
Guests: Jerry Hamilton, Rod Babers
Date: July 15, 2026
In this episode, Bobby Burton, joined by fellow analysts Jerry Hamilton and Rod Babers, delivers a comprehensive state-of-the-program address for Texas Football as they enter the 2026 season. The central question: Is Texas firmly in its championship window under Steve Sarkisian? The panel examines this by breaking down three key program dimensions—talent/roster construction, coaching, and overall program support and culture—to explain why Texas may be as well-positioned as ever for national success.
[01:31]–[10:13]
[10:13]–[17:52]
[17:52]–[24:06]
On Roster Strength:
“Texas hasn’t had three top 15 draft picks in the modern era. They certainly haven’t had four of the top 20. And some people are projecting that in this team.” – Bobby Burton ([06:16])
On Building Through Multiple Channels:
“It’s easy to say, ‘Oh, Texas and Ohio State just have the most money,’ but you still have to go put it together. You have to make decisions, you have to evaluate well. And I think Texas is doing a really good job of that.” – Jerry Hamilton ([07:46])
On Leadership and Growth:
“He’s right outside the elite coaches, right? He’s got to go start beating the Kirby Smarts of the world... those are standards that he has actually set because that’s how good he’s been coaching wise.” – Rod Babers ([11:58])
On Alignment and Support:
“When all the BBs are in the box, you know, Texas... is almost unstoppable. And it does feel like... everybody seems like they’re on the same page—players, coaches, administrative staff, all that.” – Rod Babers ([20:13])
On Administrative & Resource Support:
“A football coach at Texas has everything they can ask for right now, period... Need NIL to go get an extra guy? Yeah, we’ll get that done for you... I give Chris Del Conte University a perfect grade on that.” – Jerry Hamilton ([21:58])
For die-hard Longhorns and college football fans, this episode is a clear, thorough, and candid assessment of why the eyes of the nation are, once again, upon Texas.