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Tonight's conversation is not about headlines, about networks, ideology and accountability. We're talking about Islamic terrorism inside the United States. Who are these groups? How are they operating here unhindered? Who are they connected to? And why is this issue continually being ignored, minimized, or outright denied in public discourse? This is a topic that demands clarity, facts and courage. Our guest tonight brings all three. Welcome to on the chain. Looking forward to having this conversation. Chip. We have a lot to get into.
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And got a lot to unpack. And joining us but back for a second appearance is none other than Joe Kaufman. He's a Republican nominee for U. S. Congress down in Florida's 23rd district and someone who has spent decades doing the work most people will never see. Joe's been directly involved with counterterrorism efforts, helping to shut down terrorist linked charities, exposing extremist networks and existing agencies like homeland security with the FBI, department of defense and the secret service is in identifying and stopping threats to America and Americans. We're not talking about theory here. This is operational reality.
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That's right. Most recently, Joe led efforts to shut down a pro Hamas conference in Coral Springs. That's right, in south Florida, just outside of fort Lauderdale. For those of you who are not familiar foreseeing the cancellation of the speech of a speech by congresswom woman Summer Lee at a hamas linked care conference in Philadelphia. And that's the council of america islamic relations. And we'll talk more about that. He's also provided critical intelligence to the state of Florida that led to action against a radical imam in Miami who openly called for the annihilation of Jews and against the taxpayer funded schools that were. The school that was actually connected to him. These are real wins, real consequences. And we got. We're gonna dig into this.
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Chip, let's go. Let's get going. Let's do the open. Let's bring Joe in. Welcome to on the chain. By the way, Coral Springs is the next city over. Jeff from Boca.
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That's it.
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It's the next city over.
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The next city over.
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And I hope he takes down. I do not like the guy. I voted against the current guy. But let's bring Joe in. Joe Kaufman. Welcome to back to on the chain. How you doing?
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All right.
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Hey, Jeff. Chip.
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Thank you.
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Got that flag in the background. I like it.
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Right?
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I like it. So, yeah, we got a lot to unpack. I mean, there's, there's a lot. I mean, we can't go through, you know, all of your amazing work and all the time, you know, You've done so much, especially in probably a short period of time, but you've uncovered a lot of stuff that's going on there. And for me, personally, I really can tell you that Coral Springs shut. Like, tell us what's going on with that.
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Let's.
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Do you want to start there, Jeff? You want to start somewhere else?
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Let's start there. I mean, that's kind of top of mind right now.
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Yeah, it's top of mind. So talk a little bit about, you know, how you went about that, but more so, like, how did you learn about it? What was the sort of plan? Because there's always some tricky little plan going on to sort of. It's always disguised as something. Right. Something for the community, something great. How did they pitch it to the city?
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Yeah, look, this is. This is what I do. I go after groups and individuals connected to terrorism overseas. So. And this is. This is right where I live. It's a group called the South Florida Muslim Federation. They're an umbrella organization for. For the vast majority of radical Muslim groups in South Florida, talking about, like, Palm beach down to Miami Dade. And they've been holding, or they've been trying to hold this annual conference and in 2024. Look, I knew a lot of the speakers beforehand because of the research that I did, but I looked into the speakers, and I saw that a number of them were glorifying hamas after the October 7 attack. And listen, if you're going to have an event, you better expect some pushback regarding that, but there was a lot more to it. That was a big thing, though. And I contacted the general manager of the Coral Springs Marriott, where they were to hold this event, and I asked for a meeting, and he said okay. And I showed up with a number of leaders from the Jewish community and a leader from the Hindu community. He was a little taken aback by that, but if I had announced that we were bringing a lot of people, then he probably wouldn't have taken that meeting. So we met. He told us we had 15 minutes. I brought with me a PowerPoint presentation of 30 pages. Pretty overwhelming stuff. And he sat with us for over an hour going through every. Every slide.
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And.
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And like I said, it was overwhelming. And in the end, he said that we had a, you know, a legitimate case, and he was with us. He said he was a little concerned because, you know, this. He didn't want a lawsuit. The group had had this contract for over or for a year, and they've had events over there. And he. And. And. But in the end he shut it down, he canceled it. I told him that there were a half dozen other, you know, events just like it that past year. And one of them was another Marriott, another was a Sheridan, which is owned by the Marriott. And I said, you know, you have an out. Every one of those contracts says that if there's a, if there's a legitimate threat, if there's some kind of threat, security threat, then you could cancel it and meet, you know, meet right before the, right before the event, you could cancel it. And in this case it was right before the event. It was days away. And, and they did, they canceled it over a sec. You know, they said it was over a security threat, which was legitimate. And, and so in 2025, the organization, the South Florida Muslim Federation, they, I guess they went to the city of Coral Springs and unfortunately the city commission allowed them to use a city run facility, a city owned facility, a taxpayer funded facility, the center for the Arts, where I see concerts with my wife. Nice place. And at that event, because they held it, they were selling merchandise with terrorists images on them, including Yahya Sinwar, the mastermind, the hamas mastermind of October 7th. And then comes 2026. And now we found out that it was being held at the same place. And I'm trying to get it shut down. And one of the key factors is the fact that this group is affiliated with CARE. And this is right after Governor DeSantis named CAIR a designated CARE, a terrorist organization. And this organization is heavily affiliated with cair. Both their leadership, since they began, their ideology, since they began. The individual who was the founding executive director said he was starting the organization with how he, how he was with, with. He was the executive director of care and he wanted to bring that ideology over to the South Florida Muslim Federation when he was their executive director. And then the highest ranking CARE leader in South Florida has been also involved with this organization from beginning till now. In fact, in, in November, he was a career. He played a key role in naming their new president for this year. So CAIR has been with them every step of the way as a member and with their leadership and their operations and activism and all of that, heavily affiliated. So when I spoke at the city commission and the commission basically told us that their hands were tied, the mayor said so, the, the city attorney said so, other commissioners said so. They said that they had to follow the rules of Florida. So what happened? I contacted the governor's office after the commission said no. And I spoke at length with a staffer from the governor's office. And he told me to send the information over to Governor DeSantis. And, and he gave me the email address. And I did. I sent a fact sheet and I sent the article that I had just written for front page, all about this with all the details. And I sent a. And I sent all of the proof of how this organization is connected to care. Right away, the. The Attorney General of Florida, James Uthmeyer, he issued a statement. He actually tweeted it. And after President Trump tweeting, something is pretty golden. And he gave. He told the city commission under. No, they didn't have a choice. If this group is affiliated with care, then they need to shut this down. And, and it looks like the commission, look, they said that their hands were tied because the state. Because of the state rules, and now the state is telling them to shut it down. And I'm hoping the commission listens, but all I've been hearing is that the commission's going to allow this to continue. So they were liars, basically, because if they said that they couldn't do it because of the state, they couldn't shut it down because of the state. Well, when the state's telling them to shut it down, hey, if you're listening to the state, you shut it down. And it's perfectly legitimate. You've got. You've got Hamas glorification, you've got terrorist imagery. And it's not just there. They're promoting this. They're promoting this terrorist imagery with their promotion materials. So I think with. With any. All of this stuff combined, even a small percentage of it, they need to shut this event down.
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Yeah. It sounds to me like what they're going to do is try to decouple from care, try to show that they're not. But there's got to be funding involved there, too, right? I would imagine funding is funneling through care, and, and aside from just support, I think they're probably too intertwined with that to, to unravel it. But I don't. DeSantis isn't going to put up with this. You don't say that it's a terrorist organization or. We saw that in other states, too. You're not going to say that there's a terrorist organization and let it stand for a city council. I mean, do you see. I don't see that happening.
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We'll find out. I mean, in a few days, we'll find out if that's. If that's true or not.
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When is the event? When was the event planned?
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The events for this month, the 30th to the 31st, Friday and Saturday.
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Oh, boy.
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So there's not that much time.
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Wow.
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Now, Joe, this isn't the first time that we've seen city councils try to hide behind whatever their, you know, different rules and, you know, they, they don't do what's right. Right. We see, we've seen it with other city councils, we've seen it with school board members where they're so affiliated with CARE or somehow with the organizations. Is this, is this group that's hosting this, this event? How far are they tied? Like within the state of Florida with other groups in Florida?
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They've worked very hard to, to become a part of the media. Meaning they, they brag about the fact that when newspapers or TV stations write stories that have anything to do with Muslims or Arabs, whether it's, whether it's domestic or overseas, they say that they come to them first to give the green light to write these things or say these things. So they have a lot of power and they've been going to the politicians more and more. And we don't just see this in South Florida. I mean, this is going on around the country. This is only. This is the place where I live. So. But I see it in so many other areas. So this is just one case. But they're getting political power. And we see this overseas also. I mean, we see this in France, in England, Australia, Canada. And those places have been taken by you.
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Taken.
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Taken by a lot more of these individuals than over here. But we're heading in that direction. And unless the politicians are willing to speak out about it or do anything, you know, to stop it, then it's going to continue to happen. But for those on the political left who consider these groups to be a part of their constituency, which they do, then. Then they're not going to say. They're not going to say anything or do anything. And, and I think most of the people on the right, they just don't want to be called Islamophobe or racist. So that, you know, so every. So it's, it's like whether they're, whether they're, whether they have this constituency or not, I think they're scared off from, from doing anything about it.
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But I do see that changing, though, Joe. I mean, especially when I saw Trump and I. You saw, you know, Besant go over there, you saw the conversations that were had, basically telling them you're losing control of your countries and it's because of the invaders, right? It's because people coming in their, you know, political power, it's such a small faction in the uk, but there's about seven, eight cities where they have already taken leadership positions. And then we've seen this and we've seen it in Florida, we've seen it in Georgia, we've seen it in Texas of all places where you have the rise to power. You know, it starts off as a mayorship. It starts off is, you know, the school board, but this is how the control happens. But as, as I've always said, which might be a little bit controversial, is that, I don't know that you can designate something, a religion, so to speak, when the main tenant is we kill the people who don't believe like us. Like there has to be some sort of a, you know, of a, of a, of a sort of a line that you can't cross. Right? You can't, there's. I mean, you can't. You know, you can practice the key all you want, pretend we're going to be friends and all that, but the first thing to do is tax you. The next thing they do is. Well, just lost your head. I'm sorry. And also, I'm kind of weird, weirded out by the fact that Afghanistan just put out a message that women cannot no longer be educated, they can't attend schools anymore. And there's really no protest. There's nobody that's upset in this country that that's happening to women. Like nobody cares. So you see all of this stuff is very planned. It's always very concise. I mean, how do you see that working? And your candidacy, what are you seeing like as being a major obstacle? Because the guy that you're running against, I really despise that guy. He's really a jack hole, if you can say that. He's really, man, the guy is a walk in disaster. What if, are you guys gonna have a debate or what's gonna, what's gonna happen?
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I, I don't know. He didn't debate me last time, so I don't know if that's gonna happened. But regarding the, the issue with these groups, I mean, yes, it's true that the governors of Florida and Texas just designated CAIR in the Muslim Brotherhood as terrorist organizations. But if you look at this conference, if you take care out of the equation, the speakers that glorified Hamas after October 7th, they're not from CAIR. The, the vendors who are selling T shirts with terrorists from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine or Stanley type mugs with Yaya Sinwar's head on Them, they're not from cair. All the other organizations that are over there, they may affiliate with cair, but none of them have been named terrorist organizations. And they still exist in a very big way. And some of them get millions of dollars of funding from the US Government, from Homeland Security and FEMA under the Trump administration, certainly under the Biden administration and the Obama administration and others, but they're continuing to get funding. So while there's countries in the west that have already stepped over the line, and I'm not sure they're, they're going to be coming back, like England and France, because once these groups take political power, I'm not sure they're going to want to give it up. But we're heading towards that over here. And I don't see enough people turning against it, whether the Trump administration's in there or not. And President Trump's not going to be there forever. And I don't know how the next administration is going to handle, going to handle any of this stuff. I know that we taking a lot of money from. I love President Trump. We're taking a lot of money from Qatar in this country. Hundreds of billions of dollars invested over here in politicians and people like Tucker Carlson and maybe others. And that's a lot of influence. If you throw millions of dollars around, people are going to get bought. And unfortunately, politicians, a lot of them are where they're, they're willing to get bought.
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That's why people like Laura Loomer have been great in being influential and calling it out as well. I mean, she's done a great job, especially Qatar, calling Tucker Katalson. You know, I mean, she's pretty much. And I mean, if you look at where the funding comes from, like where he's getting money from, it's pretty disparaging when you start going down that route and taking a look at what's happening. But I do think that, you know, we need more people to point it out that do have influence. She definitely doesn't influence. But even when J.D. vance came out and was praising Qatar, I'm like, what. What are you doing? Like, what? Like, how are you? How are you having any. And then weren't they just admitted to the Board of Peace? Was that that. I see that right. Who was it I just saw admitted to the Board of Peace? Was it Qatar? Was it somebody else?
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They were. And I don't know, you know, how serious that is. I know Turkey and Qatar were, and so was. So was Israel and, and this Board of Peace. I don't Know, I don't think anybody in the world really knows where this is headed.
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Well, to replace the United Nations.
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Some people believe it's the replace the United nations, that wouldn't be so bad. But I don't know, you know, where this is headed, nor any of us, you know, is it just about Gaza or like replacing the UN who knows? But I do know that these, these countries, whether it's Qatar or Saudi Arabia or others, they have a lot of influence inside the United States, China, and they throw billions of dollars around over here to buy parts of our country. And these Islamist organizations have grown. They've grown politically. Their mosques have grown tremendously, and I see it all over the country. So I'm not sure where this leads, but I do know that these organizations, just like this South Florida Muslim Federation is tied to care, These organizations are tied to the Muslim Brotherhood, are tied to things like Hamas financing. And maybe at some point we will really wake up and it won't just be two governors naming one of the groups or two of the groups of terrorist organizations, but it will be three quarters of the country turning on this and shutting down all of these organizations. And until that happens, these groups are going to continue to grow and gain influence, political influence. If a politician is getting votes from, from, from all the mosques in the area. And, and they, and they're, and they're taking buses from. You know, it's like, it's like souls to the polls with, with Christian organizations, you know, where they take the entire church and they go, they go vote. Well, they do the same thing in the, in the mosques, and, and if the left wing understands that that's a big voting constituency and in their area, certainly in the big cities, then, then maybe they're going to be reluctant to, to do anything about it. Maybe they're, they're going to stop people like me from speaking out about it or, or, or shutting down anything.
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No, Joe, you and I, you and I have known each other for quite a while. How do, how do you see, like, if you look over the years and CARE has been, you know, present for all these years, kind of integrating into the various political situations from the lowest level to influence school board members to the highest level. And we've seen these different organizations. It wasn't that long ago that in Cooper City, which is a little bit south of Coral Springs, there's a, a mosque there and there's a school that also had some involvement. Right. So this isn't something new. And there is also kind of the headquarters of what happened in Tampa. And it goes beyond just CARE too, right? There's other organizations that we've seen influence, like the Muslim Student association and beyond. Are you still seeing impact from these other entities that are out there beyond just CARE and Muslim Brotherhood? And you know what, what do you see, like outcomes from different things over the years that you've worked kind of present here in Florida and beyond care.
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People know about CARE because they get interviewed on, on tv. So they're like a mouthpiece for the, for the Muslim community. But these other organizations, a lot of them are huge charities where millions of dollars are running through them and a lot of that money is going overseas. And we're giving an example like the Islamic Circle of North America. It's a huge organization, probably the biggest Muslim organization in Canada. The United States today. They have all of these divisions. They're getting millions of dollars from the US Government and that, and that money is being placed into these divisions. So they're constantly creating new entities because they're getting money into there. Well, I have proof that they've raised money for Al Qaeda and they've been linked to fundraising for Hamas. They partner with a third party in Pakistan and they're the top, and they were the top donors for this entity. And that entity goes and gives money to Hamas. Well, it's not illegal for this Islamic Circle group to give money to an entity in Pakistan, but it is legal for them to give money to Hamas. But if they're using a third party or if they don't know about it, I'm sure you know, then there's nothing illegal about it. Just like there's nothing illegal for this group in Pakistan to give money to Hamas, because in Pakistan it's not illegal to do so. So, you know, it's, until you shut down those, those domestic organizations in the US Then, then, then this is going to continue to happen. And those groups, like I said, they're getting money from the US itself. But if we woke up, if we really woke up, we would, we would shut down these organizations. There's, there's countries around the world that, that, that don't allow things like this to happen. It's the west that allows this to happen. It's democracies that allow this to happen. We're over compassionate for everyone and certainly there needs to be compassion to the poor. We have immigration to our country. But, but, but we're overly compassionate where we allow groups that hate the United States to, to grow. These groups in other countries would be considered traitorous. But, but over Here we allow it to, to continue, politicians allow it to continue, and people and the general population has no idea that it's happening. But, you know, one day they'll blink and they'll see that the ch. That the society totally changed. You know, like in France, you know, if I was walking around with this keeper in France, I'm not sure how much, you know, how long it would be till somebody actually hit me over it, you know, or somebody cursed me or spit at me for it. Over here, I haven't had that experience. But maybe one day I will go to Dearborn.
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Let's see how that works.
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Dearborn. I probably will. Probably would.
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Let's see how that works out. But I think, but Joe, I think compassion is true, but I also think it's what's happened bubbled up over the last 45, 50 years, this politically correct woke sort of culture that, that's been created because I get the compassion. When anything happens around the world, who's the first one to jump in? It's always Americans. Americans are sending money. Not, I mean, obviously from a, from a government standpoint, but it's people that always support. Right. So I get the compassion side, but I think what's ruined the west and then you can just, you can see what's happening throughout Europe. Right. I love the fact that Trump went over there and ran the riot act. Like, look, you're, you don't recognize these countries anymore. I noticed that. And when I was In London in 2000, I was taking pictures because I was shocked. This is 2000, 26 years ago. I already started seeing the turn inside of London and I was like, I couldn't believe it. I was really taken back. And I kind of told some people and they're like, nah, you're crazy. You're managing that. But might have just been a pocket. I'm like, it's coming. I'm telling you that it's coming. It's going to change in 15, 20 years. You're going to see it. And then what do we have? Look, we have who pops up as mayor and there's a lot of this going on. There's some good questions in here. This one here. Might as well. Who's actually. Joe's. Who's actually financing the worldwide invasion? It's a broad question, but you probably can break it down a little bit, like, who's behind all this?
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The worldwide invasion. I mean, certainly, certain, certainly Iran has a, has a part to play. But I, I think that's going to change very soon. Hopefully hopefully within days. And, and I gotta plug in because the, my phone's battery.
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Let's do this. We're gonna take out.
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We'll pull you out for a second while you do that. Yeah, go ahead and find your cord. We'll just put you in the green room for a second.
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Stick in the green room and just give a thumbs up when you're ready to come back on here. We got some other questions lined up here too. I think we should probably get into. I see this one here.
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Yeah, we.
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Joe.
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Yeah, Chip, I'll tell you what. You know, I've known and, and I've seen some of the things that Joe's done over the many years that he's been research and one, one event that people seem to have forgotten about was the attack on the World trade Center in 1993.
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Of course.
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Right. And I don't know why people forget about that. But there's a direct affiliation. It wasn't, it was. Right. It was successful to a point, unsuccessful to a point. It didn't bring it down. But obviously they got to the point where they're able to attack now. There was direct affiliation from those people directly back into CARE and some of the other entities. And that's one of the things that Joe had tracked down and connected a lot of those dots and so be, you know, that. That's one instance. Like I said, he's been at this for, for many, many years. But these people, you know, it's getting, it seems like they're now more prolific, they're popping up in many more places and obviously, you know, we, we see the mayor of New York, you know, and you have to really ask the question, you know, who's funding that? You know, who's pushing for that? Why? Why? When we go to the uk, you start seeing all these Islamists that are taking power political positions. And it was a number of years ago, it was, you know, a lot of influence at the school board level. And the school boards, as we know, are heavily leftists. Right. And they're very anti Republic. You know, they, they don't like this Republic based on everything they've promoted over the, over the years. And we can see how destructive many of these school boards have been.
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Yep. I think Joe can still hear us. When you're, when you're ready and you're finally set up. Popped off there. I think you knocked the probably cable off. That happens. That's fine.
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Yeah.
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But we'll, we'll jump into it and yeah, I mean, I would say Saudi Arabia Iran, Qatar, it's the usual players, a lot of the usual players. But I also think too like we've seen money being funneled with usaid, all this kind of stuff. Let us know when you're ready, Joe, if you're going to give us a thumbs up. Okay, he's good. There we go. Bring it back, Joe. There you go. Back in here. We were just talking about funding. This question popped up to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, a lot of this. But I think the US Aid us this usaid, that money that they cut off, it was going to NGOs. NGOs funnel it back into two places. The Democrats, because it's great because it's a chain, right? It just go, it goes from this organization to this shell company and it ends up funding terrorism and it ends up in the Democrats pockets amongst other pet projects, which get a smaller side of that. When Trump ended that and when Doge was going, who are the people crying the loudest about the fact that oh no, we can't stop fraud? And the USAID is like, funny. It's like how much of that really went anywhere that did any good. It wasn't school kids who were no longer, you know, studying, they made it about that. But there's got to be some under other funding mechanisms. One of the things that Doge found out was it was just printing checks, just sending stuff, no ledgers, nothing. And I think that's why Jeff and I are so heavy about blockchain for pretty much anything so we can find. Because a blockchain is in Delta. You cannot change it. You can't be twisted and change once it goes to blockchain. And we got to have a money trail because I don't even think we know about half of the places the government funding in this government, like you have pointed out earlier, there's gotta be more money sources because at some point you gotta cut all the money supply off. I don't know if you can cut it all off, but at least the places we know and can make a difference. I don't know if you've uncovered any of that yourself, but there seems to be an awful lot of hands in the cookie jar when you're, when you're in Minneapolis, when they're taking a million dollars and flying it off in planes every day to Somalia and it ends up back in terrorist hands. That's a problem.
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I mean, look, I don't remember that guy's name, but there's a, there was a guy used to get dressed up in colorful outfits and he would talk about free money coming from the United States.
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I love that guy.
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But, you know, it seems like there's a ton of free money out there and a lot of times the wrong people are getting their hands on it, the wrong groups are getting their hands on it. And you know, they've really perfected how to do that. And I think they're helping, helping their friends do that. But, you know, one day maybe we'll, we'll, like I say, we'll, we'll wake up and we'll figure out that there's a lot of, a lot of the fifth column inside the United States that's getting these type.
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Yeah, that guy, the free money guy, Remember that? He was talking about your guy. I thought he was crazy.
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True. When I was working for G. Gordon Liddy, I was the assistant producer there on his radio show. You know, when I, when I was going to college and his show was in Fairfax, Virginia, it was on WJFK, the, the, the Washington D.C. channel. And, and he had Lesco come on the, on the show and he, he interviewed him over there. But, but there is a ton of money that's going to groups, you know, constantly. These, these non governmental organizations, folks, 501s and all of that. And the country is not really looking into where that money is going. Doge was great. There needs to be a lot.
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There.
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Needs to be others where they look into the fifth columns that are inside the United States that are getting their hands on this type of money. Groups like caer. CAER is not the only one that should be, that should be designated terrorist organization. There's other, there's other organizations just like them. So those groups, those groups really need to be taken care of, you know.
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Meaning, meaning some of the other groups, Joe, who are some of the other groups that you've seen in other parts of the country outside of just care, that have similar affiliations.
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Well, these are all nationwide organizations. There's, there's a group called Islamic Relief, like this Florida Muslim conference that's taking place that we're trying to get shut down. They're a platinum sponsor for the conference. Islamic Relief was banned by a number of nations. Israel calls them a Hamas front. Russia banned them for helping to finance Chechnyan Muslims connected to Al Qaeda. Bangladesh, which is a, which is nearly 100 Muslim country, banned part of them. So the, the, the UAE government, which is obviously a Muslim country, they, they've, they've labeled this organization a terrorist organization. But that's, that's a group, the Islamic Circle of North America, as I mentioned, they. They've. They've been linked to Hamas and Al Qaeda financing. There's another sponsor for this conference called Baitumal. The head of that organization, his name is Mazen Mokhtar. He's their executive director. He was linked to a website, one of the main websites that was raising money and recruiting fighters for Al Qaeda shortly before 9 11. Shortly after 9 11, he said that Hamas operations are heroic, and he's made a number of statements in support of suicide bombings. So these organizations, for them, this is like, normal. But all of these people from these organizations, they're living inside the United States. They shouldn't be here. They shouldn't be anywhere near the United States. And if they are in the United States, they should be behind bars. I don't know. Like, I don't know that how someone like Mazen Mokhtar, you know, got away with the fact that he was creating mirror websites or he was an administrator for this recruiting website for Al Qaeda. I don't know how he's. How he's the executive director of an organization, and I'm sure he's. He's making a lot of money doing it from the US and otherwise. But these are the types of organizations that need to be shut down. And while care has links to terrorism, fantastic. Thank you, Governor DeSantis and Governor Abbott, for doing that. But all of these groups do, and none of them should exist. And when you shut down care, you watch. If you don't put all those. All those leaders from CARE in prison, where they should go, they're just going to run away to those other organizations or they're going to create new ones. I remember way back when, when I started this, the Bush administration, they shut down three, the three largest Muslim charities in the United States right after 9 11. One of them was raising millions for Al Qaeda, and the other two were raising millions for. Where two were raising money for Al Qaeda, one was raising millions for Hamas, and they were all shut down. In December of 2001, the Treasury Department went and padlocked all their doors, and they had court cases and like the Holy Land foundation case. But anyway, these organizations were. Were shut down. And. And then other organizations popped up because. Because the leaders from these organizations, not all of the leaders went to jail. So the ones that didn't went and created new organizations. And those organizations, you know, may have been shut down, but some of them exist to this day. So it's. It's. Unless you get all of them. Unless you get all the Individuals involved, then they're just going to run and, and create something new like this, this school in Tampa, you know, perfect example, the Islamic Academy of Florida. They take, they take school vouchers and, and the state of Florida says you're not going to get vouchers anymore because, because Palestinian Islamic Jihad was using your school to raise money for suicide bombers and in Israel. So what did they do? They changed the name. They changed the name of the school. They're operating from the same property, but it's the same people involved, but they just changed the name and all of a sudden they're getting vouchers again. To this day. So it's a never ending cycle until our government steps in and does something about it. And not enough politicians are willing to, to, to, to, to go against it. A lot of them are being bought by it, by it. A lot of them, a lot of them are taking votes from it. And, and then those who, who wish to shut it down, a lot of them are remaining quiet because they don't want the backlash. So it's, it's allowed for a perfect storm to, to take over our country.
A
It's a good comment from Jim D. We Westerners are going to have to face the reality that Islam is a control and enslavement ideology, not a religion. It's 100 incompatible with freedom principles enshrined in the Constitution. And that's the other thing about Sharia laws. It's always practiced. There's never, it's not like they might, they could, that's everything that, that they're built on. So this, there's always this thing where, you know, you, you saw Mandami in New York get questioned about it quite often and he was able to deflect. But we know what's coming. Oh, incoming call Joe. Something important.
B
That's not my phone. That was Joe's phone.
A
No, no, I was calling, I was.
D
Just goofing in, in 2016, 2016, I'm in Paris and, and, and I was giving a speech there and three quarters to maybe the entire crowd were, were enemies. At least, at least they, they didn't like me. And they, and during my speech, at a lot of intervals, they, they let me, they let, they, they showed me that they didn't want me there. And, and so I'm walking around Paris and I see there's like, this is 2016. You mentioned 2020, this 2016. I see hijabs everywhere. But I was on a panel after my speech and one of the former heads of Algeria was In the front row. Guess he was participating in the event. They had, they actually had both sides of the Arab Spring represented. This was during the Arab Spring. So they had both sides of the Arab Spring in the, in the crowd and also involved in, in the conference. And, and here I am, I'm there to give a speech on how to, how to end radical Islam and terrorism to a, to a crowd of Islamists from both sides of the Arab Spring. And this head of Algeria says to me on this panel, he says that, that, that he don't, he doesn't, he didn't like my speech because he didn't like the fact that I was, that I was criticizing his religion. And in truth, I didn't see anything about his religion. I didn't say anything about Islam or anything like that. And I'm no religious scholar and I just don't do that. So my entire speech was about those, I guess, using the religion for violence. I was talking about terrorists and I said that to him. But I did say to him, though, because there was one of the, the, the, the head of the defense for, for the Sisi government. The Sisi government had just taken over. And remember when, when Sisi in Egypt, I'm talking about, you know, they had just, they just had the coup against, against Mohamed Morsi in Egypt. And Sisi became the leader of Egypt, right? And, and the head of his defense department, I don't remember his name. He was on the panel with me. In fact, he walked off because somebody from the other side of the Arab Spring said something and he got upset. He was holding a manila folder filled with papers and he got up and he threw it down. The papers went flying. It was crazy. He stormed out of the place. But before he stormed out, he was on this panel and he said he mimicked Sisi because if you remember, when Sisi first got in to power, he said that Alazar University needs to be moderated, that Alazar is teaching radical Islam and that Islam itself and the university need to be moderated. Sisi said this himself, and the guy that was representing his government on that panel said the same thing. And so I said to this gentleman from Algeria, I said, you just saw that this guy from the Sisi government said that Islam needs to be moderated. And I said, I just want to give you an example of something that I came by in my work that maybe would be an example of this. And so I told him about an article that I had written shortly before that about this individual in Miami who posted a cartoon on Social media. And in that cartoon there was a tree, a cartoon tree with eyes and nose and mouth. And there was someone coming towards the tree holding a rifle, a bearded individual holding a rifle. And behind the tree there was an orthodox Jew cowering behind the tree. And they had, and they had a caption in Arabic that read in English, oh, Muslim, oh Muslim, there's a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him. I said to the Algerian, I said, I said that cartoon didn't come out of a vacuum. That cartoon came out of these hadith. You know, the Hadith Bukhari and the Hadith Hadith Muslim are considered to be the most religious texts in Islam outside of the, the Quran. So for, so for all of Muslims, certainly Sunni Muslims who are fundamentalist, who are regularly go to mosque, who are religious, for them, these hadiths are, are sacred. And when it keeps on repeating that statement, oh Muslim, oh Muslim, there's a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him. And they repeat it in different words. But it's, but it's basically the same, the same meaning. I said to the Algerian, I said that cartoon didn't come out of a vacuum. And maybe there are some things within Islam that, that, that are the total opposite of peace. In fact, they're preaching hatred and violence. And that's certainly true. I know there's like a mainstream organization, Islamic Society of North America. They're part of this Muslim Brotherhood inside the United States. I remember getting texts from their website and those texts were the same text that, that, you know, that people from Al Qaeda, you know, would, would circulate before they flew those planes into our, into our buildings. There's, you know, maybe, maybe the people in ista, maybe their leaders, and maybe even all of them, maybe the layman, that maybe they're not, they're not actual terrorists or flying planes into buildings or beheading or, or suicide bombers. But I could tell you that if, if you polled those people, most of them would, would support it. Most of them would support suicide bombings. Most of them would support those other things chopping off hands and, and such. So, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's bad. It's, you know, it's, maybe they're not doing these evil acts. But, but, but if enough of the people are supporting it, then, then maybe that's, that's, that's almost as bad. You know.
A
100. The entire objective if Islam is of Islam is to utterly dominate the world. Yeah. And also, you know, enact shrill law Right. So it's not, it's, this is the whole thing. You know, it is funny when I say it's funny, but it's not a sad story too. But you see what's happening like in countries like Pakistan went over 75, is 80% of the population is inbred, you have these low IQs. You don't change that with education. You have to change that with, you know, other measures. You're going to continue to do the same thing over and over again. The problem is that's why you see a lot of these, even, even countries like Saudi Arabia that did you notice they did none of these, none of these countries wanted to take the people from the fallout after, you know, October 7th. Right. Nobody wanted them, right? They were like, no, you're banned here. They didn't want anybody so called from, you know, Palestinians. They want them, they're all banned there. They don't want them because they're rabble rousers, right? They're, they're, they're, they're going to create some sort of an uprising. They're actually a threat to the government because they're going to have some sort of an uprising. I'm just curious, what are your thoughts when it comes to what's happening in Iran? We've got carriers on the way there right now, right? The same carrier that was there in, in outside of Venezuela. But what do you see, you know, what do you think is going to happen if you had to make a prediction? I mean Trump said originally that if any of these people were hurt, the government was killing protesters. Well, we've known they've, even by their own numbers they're a lot lower than what they are. They said, oh, we killed 1200 which means 10,000. Right. What do you see? I mean do you see a surprise strike? What do you think's in the future for Iran? Oh, just switched on your phone there to the.
B
Oh, the complexity of.
A
Well, that's what happens. Joe's having an issue with this computer. So that's why we ended up going to the phone. That's why we're a little bit late tonight. If you know, we're usually for a.
B
Second until he fixes chip. That was, that was a really good, you know, point in question to really bring, bring it into what's happening over in, in Iran. I mean there's so many things that are going on right now and it's, everything is so imminent, you know, I mean with, it could be days to what they happen over and oh, look at that.
A
This one. Great. Listen, thanks Joe. Minor surgeon in the morning. Okay. All the best to you, Mark. All the best.
B
I understand you gotta go having a lobotomy.
A
Don't get the lobotomy, man. We won't have, we won't have our quick witted bark Smiths in here. No. Hope all goes well tomorrow. All the best of luck, man.
B
Ed French 100.
A
Glad he's stepping up.
B
He's, he's put himself out there many times. I mean, you know, it's over, over the years and he's really held a lot of these groups to account. I can remember the, the group he's talking about that is holding their organization meeting at the Marriott. I can remember being there and I was invited to introduce speakers and so I remember it introducing Laura Loomer and, and many others made it down there. That's right, that's right. Yeah. I forget exactly what had happened that day. But there were other events that there, there was a group where they had an event at the Fort Lauderdale Convention center, you know, right at the port. Of all places, at the port. And ch. At the time candidate Allen west had come out to speak and there were multiple times I had the opportunity to introduce Lt. Col. Allen west as, as candidate. And, and it was, it was really great. Uh, there was always, you know, so many people coming out, uh, within the community, uh, to kind of protest exactly what was happening. But you think about all these years have passed. We're talking about like 2008, 2009, 2010 time frame, so 15 years ago and so 16 years ago. Fast forward all these years and it's not getting better, right? I mean Florida, Texas, to at least assign CARE to say, okay, that's a terrorist entity. CARE was very instrumental here and in Tampa. They had their headquarters in Tampa. But here going to, and giving awards to school board members, getting in with the city councils and they do it little by little. And even they have connected ties to fema, you know, so if there are ever any thing, you know, any event, they would go out there and, and they'd be out there helping. So they put themselves in a position to look like they're helping the community. Well, all along they have this underlying kind of nefarious agenda similar to what happened not just in Dearborn, but Mark Smithson had mentioned Hamtramck. Hamtramck was Polish. I can remember moving to Detroit in 94 and I remember going to Himtramck the first time. Predominantly Polish. There were Polish stores, everything. You know, over the years you started to See the conversion over to predominantly majority Muslim until now to where the city council. And now they have call for prayer. So. And they tried passing that before. It was a big lawsuit case in Hamtramck. But there's a perfect example where they little by little they, they kind of come in. It used to be Dearborn. I can remember moving there and I'm like, hey, this is great. I've been outside the Middle east for a bit and I'm excited. I finally can get some good, you know, good quality food at the. That, that was kind of short lived, but that was Dearborn. You know, I gotta love Lebanese restaurants. I love Lebanese food and everything, but it's amazing. Plus there's a huge Chaldean community in the Detroit area. Those are the Iraqis from northern, northern Iraq. They're Christians from northern Iraq and big population Arizona, big population in Detroit. And you know, so there's a lot of great Chaldean restaurants too. But the, the point is that here we're starting to see in Texas they were going to build that huge mosque compound and so that got shut down. They're doing the same thing here in Florida and it was, I forget exactly what town. I think it was up in Brevard County. It wasn't even in Tampa because there's some things going in in Tampa too. But I believe it was up in the Brevard county area. I forget exactly maybe and somebody, somebody knows they'd have to look it up. But anyhow, the people poured into the city council meeting, poured in to stop it. They said no, this isn't happening. And so I think they got it shut down. But people are, people are waking up. And you had said that before. I, I believe that this country, we're so different chip than France and England and everywhere else, but we have to wake up years ago pre 9 11. I can remember back in the 90s how talk to people about this stuff and, and people just look at me with, with glassed over eyes, you know, and they just had no concept. And I said just wait, you know, just wait until there's more. Right? Because you're going to start seeing things happen on a regular basis. And even being in Detroit and now, you know, you can see as we move forward. So people went from very, being very naive and ignorant to learning about it, understanding it, getting a little burnout because we're, you know, over in, in Iraq and Afghanistan for so long. But there was that wake up 9 11. Fast forward all these years, 25 years and I hope, I hope We've learned. But I think it's very clear the conservatives, we know where conservatives stand. We know where libertarians stand with the left typically, and we know where the left has stand at this point.
A
Right.
B
And we don't, obviously defrauding the American people with. With all the money and the. And the cheating in the election. We get rid of all that. We get rid of the money source like you mentioned, usa. We cut them off at the financial knees. We correct our voting blocks, get rid of all the cheating, man. The rest of it goes away because they're not gonna have any money.
A
Well, another news, Jeff, the. The Save Act. What is it called? The Save. Yeah, the Save act, which is that voter ID type of law. It's being reworked. Speaker Thune was. Was talking a little bit about it because I actually didn't think it was going to happen because it didn't seem like it was getting picked up. But you know, the Babylon be never misses. So they put this out, said Republicans warned vote passing the voter ID law could ruin plan to hand Congress to Democrats in November. They just never miss. I don't know. I don't know who writes that stuff over there, but it's just spot on. Yeah. Up where you are, Jim?
B
I hope not. Here in Brevart, the Florida Institute Melbourne caters to wealthy Islamic donor families. There you go.
A
I've been meaning. I've been meaning to. There's this guy that I see on Facebook that does music history, and it reminds me so much. It looks like it could be Jim D's brother. I swear to God, I'm like, this guy does music stuff and he breaks down songs and stuff. I'm like, are you like. Is that you have like a brother? Are you sidelining as. As. As this dude on Facebook? How about the. I'll. I'll send it to Jeff first and see if Jeff concurs or not.
B
Maybe it's him. Maybe it's that.
A
No, I don't. Well, it looks. It looks like a. It looks to be like a brother of Jim D. I don't know like Jim D, but it looks like a brother or something, you know, like you'd be related. But the way he breaks down songs and stuff, it's really. It's kind of cool. He'll play like a drum beat, then he'll add like the guitar piece in. You're like, ah, it kind of sounds familiar. Then he'll do something else and then he'll add like, okay, the main vocal. And you're like, ah, there it is right there, you know, so. But yeah, I just. Just because everyone. Because, you know, some people send me Facebook stuff, so I end up getting trapped in the Facebook ecosystem and I'll go to the next one and it'll be bad. Ed French says, yeah, I worry about my kids and grandkids. Three laws, the polar opposite of constitutional republic that our founders started with. I'm praying that we don't have to late. Too late to save the election process. Well, you know, you got to remember something, Ed. You got to remember something like thinking things are lost. It's in our constitution. If this isn't working, if this isn't happening the way and the founders envisioned it, start over. There's only one way to start over. We know who has the guns. Just saying. We know who's gonna. Who's. Who's gonna. If there's a revolution, there's a revolution. If it has to happen, it's gonna have to happen now. We know where it's not happening. It's not going to happen in Germany. It's not good. It's not going to happen. Where they surrender, where the white flag hangs at every public institution in France. And so that's our show for tonight. Thank you very much. It's so funny. We're just getting ready to wrap here. Thank you, everybody, for. For stopping in. And Joe's on the move.
B
Joe, when you're ready again, give us a thumbs up.
A
Yeah, right? You do look like a rock star. You do. There is a certain.
B
Yeah, that's all right. Jim.
A
Jim D's got the long hair. It's not. I'd say it's like long shoulder length hair.
B
Longish.
A
Longish.
B
Long for me, long for you now, long for you.
A
Yeah. Got my ponytail back, though. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Just because otherwise it's too. It's too long on top. I have to get it. I'm gonna have to get it cut even more. It's just too long. It goes all over the place. All over the place, man.
B
Yep. Not afraid. I missed Chip trying to pay for lunch with XRP at the bitcoin bar.
A
Yeah, well, that place shut down. It's funny because I'm actually friends. I'm actually pretty.
D
We.
A
We friends with the dude that used to run that place. Yeah, we trade stuff back and forth. Hardcore conservative, by the way. Yeah. Just letting you know. Just, you know.
B
Yeah, Joe, whenever you're ready, give us a thumbs up. Thumbs up.
A
He's back.
D
What happened?
B
Your phone died.
C
Hey, you know this other computer is.
A
Well, look at how clean the image is.
B
Look at that. That's so much better.
A
Not right at the end of the show, Joe. You had to come.
D
Right in the.
A
Last bits of the show, man.
B
It's great.
A
Yeah.
B
So, Joe, tell us, you know, a little bit on, on point with your campaign. You're running a little bit about your opponent, you know, what some of the, the key points are for needing to get him out of office. The key points of, you know, and this is the second time you're running for that seat. And just tell us a little bit about where, where you ended up last time and where you see the momentum this time.
C
So in, in the last race, we, I jumped in very, very late in the race in March of 2024. It was a month before qualifying. The individual ran before that. He, I was bugging him to get in the race because I thought he had an okay shot, you know, and I told him I'd help him. And, and in the end he told me that his wife was having some health problems, so, so he wasn't going to do it, which I understood. So I, I went to my wife and asked her, you know, and said.
D
Hey, should we do this?
C
And she said, yeah. So I wouldn't do it without her. So I, I got into the race. There was already five people in the, in the primary. I was the sixth person, the last person, and, and I wound up winning with really good numbers. I, I won like 35 of the, the vote. And it was, and it wasn't easy. It was tough even, Even so. And I didn't know how. What the outcome was going to be beforehand, but did really well and didn't raise that much money because I got in so late and, and, and used most of that, most of that money for the primary. So going into the general really didn't have anything. We had a lot of good signs. We had a bunch of four foot by eight foot, you know, giant, giant signs with my logo on it. They were really beautiful signs. And we had 120 of those and, and we had like 3,000 little signs. So we did really well on signs. Somebody said in the end, like, if, if it were all about signs, I, I would have gone hands down. But, but, but didn't have, you know, really any money left. So I was outspent like 20 to 1, literally by Moskowitz. And, and, and came close. I got 48% of the vote.
A
That's amazing.
D
It was, it was very close.
C
And had, I had maybe a little more time to, to, to form those coalitions that I, I needed to because a lot of people came to the polls not knowing who I was and if I had a little more time I, I believe I would have won and, and had also, I mean it was a factor also the mail in ballots going into, going into in person voting, early voting. I was already down 44,000 mail in ballots. So you know, I, it's. That's just a tremendous amount of.
D
Of of votes fraud.
C
And those things shouldn't have even existed because nobody was coming to the polls with, with, with masks on, you know, those things. The mail in ballots existed because of COVID and if Covid, I mean Covid was around. But if, if Covid were a factor then, then maybe you still have that excuse. But that excuse was, was over with. If it were just absentee ballots where people needed an excuse to, to get one instead of just like these leftists going to, to colleges and having people sign up that never would have voted.
D
Anyway or, or going to. I witnessed this myself.
C
My, my mom, because she has a lot of physical issues. She's goes to the hospital and then she goes to rehab, you know, frequently.
D
And, and I would visit her rehab.
C
And I would see the Democrats in.
D
There going door to door at the.
C
Rehab signing people up for these mail in ballots. And, and of course the Republican Party doesn't do that. I'm not sure the Republican Party does that anywhere.
D
I saw that also when my wife.
C
Was being sworn in, you know, as an American citizen, you know, way back when. So the Democratic Party was there signing people up to vote, you know, the Republicans don't even know. I'm not sure how many Republicans know that, that, that that's actually happening or party members.
D
And, and so if it were just.
C
Absentee ballots where people would have to go to the supervisor of election and, and contact the supervisor election and you know, they need an excuse for it. I'm, I'm not sure they would have had, you know, a quarter of those 44,000. I believe I would have won with, with good numbers.
A
And so is the, is the White House behind you in this? Are they aware of your race and your candidacy? Are they getting behind you? They starting to put some assets behind you?
C
Well, that's going to be the case.
D
I don't know about the White House.
C
But the Republican Party is.
A
That's what I worry about. You worry about the Republican Party. Let's forget about the Republican Party. Let's talk about other ways of money because the Republicans Republican Party, it's a.
C
It'S a big deal for the party because I never previously had party support beyond like, a little support from the, from the local party.
D
Certainly in the past, I was running.
C
Against Debbie Wasserman Schultz. So, yeah, you know, it was, it was tough to get the party involved in that race. I, I had a meeting with Ren's previous once, and he, you know, when I, I told them that if, if they helped me against Debbie, then, then, then, then I could keep her in town instead of her going, you know.
D
Around the country raising money. Because.
A
That's Right, right.
C
Part of why she was the head of the DNC to, To raise money for other candidates. But he didn't see it that way. He saw it as, like, you know, it's either a win or a loss. You know, he, he saw it as numbers game. Right now I have the numbers with me. And, and, and, and it is a, it's a Democrat seat, but it's, it's getting redder by the minute.
D
Yeah.
A
What about Laura Loom? Are you in touch with her? Is she aware of your candidacy?
C
I. I know she's aware of the, the candidacy and.
A
Because I think if she was a little bit more tied into what you've been doing your entire world in your Life, because it's 100. What she stands on. She also, she's connected to a lot of people. I also think that would be a good thing to maybe reach out to her, because I just know that she is connected. People can say what they want about her, but she's highly effective. I, I love her personally. I mean, she was in my district, so I voted for her twice. Unfortunately, she was unsuccessful twice. And I don't think she'll ever get into that game again. But, you know, I do think that maybe that might be an avenue because she's connected to. What you need to do is get your name out. Because I think that being just down the street from Mar a Lago, there'd be a heavy interest in, In. Especially in this area of Boca. You know, people talk about their support for Trump. I was at one of the very first Trump rallies, and it was in 2013. It was in a small park in Boca Raton, Federal highway there, right off of Palmetto. If you blink, you miss it. I went and saw Trump there, and a couple local people, I think Allen west spoke there as well back in the day. And I said, oh, my God, this guy's going to be president. It was the same speech he always gave was way before he was tinkering about running against Obama. That was one of the things that was kind of going on back in the day. But I think you need to source your name and you know, we need to get your name out there because, especially to the right people, because, and I have, I have another clue that I'll give you after we conclude here because another funding source that I'll, I'll, I'll get you involved in, but after we conclude. But I do think that what you're doing is huge. And I do think, and I love this at Moscows, I do not like this guy at all. He's done so many questionable things. He's just a jackass. I'll just say that right out. I mean, how do I know? Because I voted against this guy. He's in my district. I don't like the dude. So we got to figure out a way to get you over the top and, you know, send you to Washington because this level of knowledge and what you know and what you could bring to, to Congress is going to be necessary. It's the same way that, that we've had other people who are very knowledgeable about certain subjects. You have to educate. Congress is not thinking about this and not looking at it. And it's really important that you know that you win.
C
And I agree with you. And I don't say that as, as the guy we're talking about. You know, I know I'm prejudiced in that matter because I'm, I'm the candidate. But I do know that I'm needed in Congress and it's the biggest reason why I've been doing this. And I've devoted a good part of my life to getting into Congress because I know that my country needs me and I know that there's so many politicians that are either ignorant of the subject or just don't want to hear about, about it. And I, and I could consult them, I can consult the White House and the Trump administration about these things where others would have no clue about it. And I could work to save my country because ultimately that is what it's about. It's about saving this country. I grew up here. If this country didn't take in my great grandparents During World War II, I, I probably wouldn't be talking to you right now. Wouldn't, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't exist because my great grandparents, families were, were decimated, you know, in, in Poland.
D
So I, I, I wouldn't be, you.
C
Know, even a thought. So I don't take it for granted where I grew up and, and And I was lucky to be able to do that. I try to instill that in my, in my 12 year old daughter. You know, I, I tell her like, you know, you happen to be growing up in, in a place where you can, you have freedom and in a great state like Florida and, and, and it's, and, and, and you have to think about that and thank God that you, that you have that opportunity. Whereas if you were in, in most anywhere in the world other than here, you wouldn't have anything close to this. In fact you could be growing up in, in poverty or, or enslaved like they do with the Iranian citizens or other elsewhere. You know, so I, I don't take it for granted. I, I, I thank God that I, I for America and that I grew up here and, and I, and I, and I try to you know, live my life where I'm giving back to my nation.
A
Well that's great. Why we have to do. We'll have to have you on again too probably as you get closer and kind of get an update from where you're, you know, where you're at and, and kind of what you're doing. But yeah, I think it's a, it's a huge deal and if you came up that I think the climate's changing too and I've seen a change in a Boca too. Just people. I run into different interactions too. Like this climate is changing even though it's been traditionally sort of blue. I do feel like people are a little bit fed up, they're a little bit tired, you know, the same old thing. And I do see people, even if they're non political, they just, they want something, they want something. They want better representation, let's put it that way. Because yeah, I always thought like who bought this guy because he was such a doofus. I mean even listening to him speak and then you know, he's always. Because I and West Boca, the signs are the election time. The signs come out, you see the commercials and this guy's nowhere to be found any other time.
C
Doesn't he's, he's nowhere to found, be found with a bunch of votes because he's amongst the worst in, in casting votes in Congress. He's amongst the worst in. You know, this district includes Boca Raton and Fort Lauderdale, two of the main hub cities in, in the United States where tons of trade happen within these two cities. Not just in the United States, but, but with countries overseas. You know, it's so important to the US and, and, and he's amongst the worst in bringing back funds to, to this area where, you know, I, there's.
D
Not many cities like Fort Lauderdale and.
C
Boca Raton in the entire state of Florida. There's a few like Tampa, Jacksonville and others. Orlando, but, but not many. And, and this, this district should be amongst the, the, the top with regards to getting funding. And, and so he's.
D
Yeah, he's nowhere to be found. He, he got in because of his father.
C
His father was a big figure in the Democratic Party. And, and, and he, he continued that when his dad passed away. And I don't think he wants to be there. I, I don't think he. I'm not even sure that he, he thinks he's going to be there any longer.
B
Let's hope not.
C
So maybe he's not even going to be. You know, if they do redistricting, which I believe they're going to, and make this, make this district even more red, I'm not sure he's gonna even stick around. He may just, he just may just run for something.
A
I just want to save the embarrassment. Right?
C
Yep.
B
Yep.
C
And play Nintendo. That's what I think.
A
Really.
D
He's got his. He's got a sneaker.
C
He's got a sneaker coalition that. He runs a sneaker caucus, you know, like on Jewish, Jewish holidays. He runs his, his sneaker caucus because then he, he, I look, I love Star Wars. It's. You know, when I was a kid, it was my favorite movie. My, My grandfather took me the first day when it came out in 1977. But, you know, his big thing is like, people come into his office, he shows them his baby Yoda doll.
A
Well, I love Star wars too, until I worked. Until I worked with Mark Hamill for five years on a show that was produced in Boca where the university, as we did a show called Dot com was back. It made its run in the mid, early to mid late 90s. And so Mark would tell us stories about the. You know, he would say, I don't want to talk about Star Wars. But in between scenes he would actually start talking about, oh, you know, what happened one time. One time we were on set and you would just be like, you know, it was, it was something great to hear. And it was wild that. Because that studio is right over there by the university and there's an airport right there. It's right across the street. So you'd hear like a perfect take and all of a sudden you hear the noise from the airplane over the top. Like, why would you build? I said, the owners. Why would you build this here. You know, the.
C
It could have been the Millennium Falcon.
A
Yeah. I mean, he told, he did tell some great stories. Some of my snuck on video and then somehow those videos just disappeared from the, from the, From. From all. From the tape room. They just disappeared. I had them. They were like, you know, I shot them and I was like, this would be great. I'm not going to put it out there. I just want to know. And now Mark Hamill is one of the biggest lefty nut jobs that can possibly be out there. And it was funny. Politics never came up. It was never a politics issue. He was a fun guy. He was really upbeat. He did have some issues back in the day that I won't get into, but he was a pretty outwardly fun dude. He never was like, it's not nothing like today, the climate today, where he's. Where he was on, you know, Twitter just trashing people. And then I would go on my anonymous account, I would hammer him because I don't want to use my. But I'll just, you know, go on my anonymous account and just say whatever I want.
C
Well, I was happy to see, you know, that actor Mark Ruffalo played the Hulk, you know.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
C
Marvel. Marvel Studios, Marvel Comics, you know, and the movies. And I was happy to see that he's. He's now like, losing, Losing jobs. These completely idiotic positions that he's. That he's taking with, with our enemies.
B
Oh, yeah, there's too many. It's, you know, Hollywood has lost the narrative. The stuff that they, they put on screen, it's a bunch of garbage. You know, nowadays, they're the classic films, but now they, they have been put up on a pedestal for so long by the public that they actually believe what they say actually holds some sort of level of significance and importance. And they, and they parade around and you can see so many of them are. Are just completely, you know, devoid of any morality. But they're not very smart, many of them, and they've just. They've just lost it. They don't live in our world.
D
Reads immorality.
C
But I'm. But I'm happy to see that at least there's. There's someone or someone's in Hollywood that care enough to not let Mark Ruffalo have jobs with that, with them. And, and hopefully the only positions that he'll get as an actor moving forward are maybe like, stage shows or, you know, he's a nuts local theater.
B
They continue. The narrative has shifted. We have all these fringe elements from the left, they're very loud. The media is still promoting them. But as far as it seems like Hollywood, we're starting to see the last bits of that wokeness in some of the shows. Unfortunately, it's still there, but it's not as, like it's not as bad as it was there was that period of time. But you can go back, you know, where you start seeing them bleed it in. And now it's bleeding out, right. And so it needs to be bled out completely and get rid of this wokeism.
C
I remember when I was first dating my wife Emily and I, I had told her about, you know, every, in every movie you've got some kind of liberal, you know, whatever embedded in that, in that movie, maybe for a split second, but it's gonna be there. And I remember her telling me, no, no, no, you know, you just, you're just paranoid. This is not, this is not going on. And then late, and then later she came to me and she's like, you know what? I've been watching for it. And you're exactly right. I see it in every single movie. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's true. It, you know, a lot of times like, it's just like a, a, just a little nuance in a, in a, in a, in an hour, 45 minutes or two hours. They've got like a split second in there.
D
But it's there and it's, and, and.
C
You don't know that it's affecting you. Yeah, but it's, but it's there and, and, and you see it enough and, and maybe, maybe it's going to move you in, in a, in a direction.
A
Well, here we go. This is a great place to end, I think right here at French's. He says farewell to holy woke. Thanks guys. Great work. So it's always a fantastic to hear, so gotta love it. Well, let's see, we've gone an hour and 20 minutes here. This is pretty crazy.
C
Which I've been on for maybe 20 minutes.
A
Yeah, it just went by so fast. My God, it was like so fast. And I'm having an issue with my computer right now. Having all kinds of weird stuff going on.
B
I don't know why it's static.
D
I think the show has, has shown.
C
Me that I need a new computer.
A
Well, that happens. Just get yourself a Mac and you'll feel so much better about life.
B
And.
A
To go Mac, you never go back. I'm just saying, oh, my computer's having some weird things going on.
B
Right now he's freezing up with his Max.
A
No, it's freezing. No, you know what it is? It's like it's memory leaks inside of Chrome. When I use AI and I let. I leave those. I leave the windows open. It crashes Chrome.
B
Oh, yeah, because if you look at the tab, look how much memory. It's just bleeding out.
A
It's just bleeding out. I left it open on four tabs and it's like crushing my. It's just destroying this thing. So anyway, I'm gonna have to.
B
Don't start all that Mac stuff. Here we go.
A
God. God Almighty. All right, I have to.
B
And then Google. All right, well, that's it. Let's. Joe, appreciate you being on. Any last parting words that you have for. For us?
C
Yeah, I'm just. I'm just gonna keep fighting. I'm hoping to get this conference shut down, but if it's not, you know, we'll. We'll demonstrate and, And I'll continue my life fighting this stuff until. Until at some point it's. It's gone. And I. I hope for. I hope and pray for one day that. That it is gone. My daughter's future is. Is secure in this country. And, And. And I hope that other Western countries actually come back from. From. From their demise that they find themselves in today.
B
And.
C
Yeah.
D
Save the West.
C
Save America. Save the West.
B
I love it, man. All right, guys, we'll see from our audience here before we sign off. Charles says buy xrp. XRP is a digital asset. Most people in here are big supporters of xrp, similar to, well, let's say a bitcoin, but that's what. There have been multiple comments on that coming through here. And we're. We're up against Ray saying the agenda was laid out in the 1963 Communist goals list and the capture of Hollywood is stated. And so it's been. The battle's going on a long time now. We're aware of it now. It's time to shut it down. Joe's on the forefront over there trying to win the seat against Jared Moitz and all the power to you on that. On that race. And we'll look forward to having you back on again for some updates as we. As we get closer through the primaries.
D
Thanks, I appreciate it.
A
We'll stay on past the show. Just stay on. Hang on tight, guys. We'll see you back on the show on Saturday morning. Thank you, Joe, for coming in. I'm gonna go ahead and play the outro, but stick around here, Joe. We guys see you guys on the next one. Chip, Jeff and Joe out.
D
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Original Air Date: January 29, 2026
Host(s): Chip & Jeff of On The Chain
Guest: Joe Kaufman (Counterterrorism expert, Republican Congressional candidate, FL-23)
This episode dives into the presence and operation of extremist groups—specifically those with ties to Islamic terrorism—within the United States. The focus is on the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR), affiliated organizations in Florida, and the recent efforts led by guest Joe Kaufman to expose and shut down terrorist-linked conferences and funding networks. The conversation is alarmist and highly critical of mainstream governmental inaction, casting urgency on the need for vigilance, transparency, and legislative response.
Quote:
"This is what I do. I go after groups and individuals connected to terrorism overseas… I brought a 30-page PowerPoint and met with the Marriott manager. He sat with us over an hour, and in the end, he cancelled the event." – Joe Kaufman [05:14]
Quote:
"I'm trying to get it shut down... their key factor is they're affiliated with CAIR, which the governor has named a terrorist group." – Joe Kaufman [07:59]
Tactics:
"If the state says you must shut it down and you don’t, then you were lying about your limitations." [10:47]
Quote:
"They brag that when newspapers or TV stations write stories... they come to them first to give the green light. So they have a lot of power and have gone to the politicians more and more." – Joe Kaufman [12:33]
Quote:
"We're heading in that direction. Unless politicians are willing to speak out—it's going to continue to happen." – Joe Kaufman [13:39]
Quote:
"Until you shut down these domestic organizations, this is going to continue... They're getting money from the US itself." – Joe Kaufman [23:15]
"We have to have a money trail… that's why Jeff and I are so heavy about blockchain… so we can find [the funding]." – Chip [31:34]
Quote:
"If you don't put all those leaders from CAIR in prison where they belong, they'll just run away to those other organizations or create new ones." – Joe Kaufman [38:41]
"We're overly compassionate where we allow groups that hate the United States to grow. These groups would be considered traitorous elsewhere." – Joe Kaufman [24:13]
"I know I'm needed in Congress and that's the biggest reason I've devoted a good part of my life to this—my country needs me, and there are so many politicians either ignorant or unwilling to hear about it." – Joe Kaufman [69:49]
Direct Action & Results:
"I brought with me a PowerPoint presentation of 30 pages. Pretty overwhelming stuff. And he sat with us for over an hour." – Joe Kaufman [05:14]
On Media Influence:
"We allow groups that hate the United States to grow... Politicians allow it to continue, and the general population has no idea that it's happening." – Joe Kaufman [24:13]
Reflecting on European Parallels:
"You don’t recognize these countries anymore... This is how the control happens." – Host [14:26]
On CAIR's Tactics:
"People know about CAIR because they get interviewed on TV. But these other organizations, a lot of them are huge charities where millions of dollars are running through them and a lot of that money is going overseas." – Joe Kaufman [23:15]
Funding Loopholes:
"They're constantly creating new entities because they're getting money into there. Well, I have proof that they've raised money for Al Qaeda and they've been linked to fundraising for Hamas." – Joe Kaufman [23:30]
On Political Reluctance:
"Most people on the right just don’t want to be called Islamophobes... so they're scared off from doing anything about it." – Joe Kaufman [14:13]
The conversation is urgent, unapologetically partisan, and rooted in counterterrorism advocacy. The hosts amplify Kaufman's assertions with agreement, expressing frustration at political inaction, and at times, veer into cultural critique of Western attitudes toward Islam and immigration. The tone is confrontational, bordering on polemical, and seeks to galvanize listeners toward vigilance and political engagement.
Kaufman reaffirms his commitment both to counterterrorism advocacy and to his Congressional campaign, calling for more widespread action, transparency in funding flows, and the need to "save America."
Final Words:
"I'm just going to keep fighting. I'm hoping to get this conference shut down, but if it's not, we'll demonstrate. I hope and pray... my daughter's future is secure in this country—and I hope other Western countries come back from their demise." – Joe Kaufman [81:42]
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This summary covers all major themes, arguments, and memorable moments as discussed by Joe Kaufman and the On The Chain hosts. It is intended for listeners seeking an in-depth, factual recap and context of the episode's content and perspective.