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Jeff
Tonight might be one of the biggest Connect the Dot episodes we've done in a long time because I think most people still believe that XRP is somehow still competing to become part of the financial system. Maybe it is. But what if the infrastructure around XRP is quietly becoming the actual financial system itself? What does that actually mean? And that's actually where this all starts getting a little bit crazy. Because tonight we're going to break down why flare may have just solved one of the biggest institutional barriers that has kept XRP from fully entering defy at scale. Now. Not retail defy, we're talking about institutional defy. We're actually talking about transparency frameworks, economic security, programmable infrastructure, institutional interoperability on chain protection layers, token disclosure standards. And the craziest part, that's why we're all tuning in, is that most people are still looking at crypto like it's 2021. You know, that historic date way back when a lot, maybe five years ago. Meanwhile, institutions are asking completely different questions now than they have been now. They're not asking what meme coin should we buy? They're actually asking where is the actual transparency? Where is the security, where's the compliance? Where's the protection layer, where's the infrastructure? And tonight we're going to show you why this flare ecosystem expansion may be way bigger than most XRP holders actually realize. Because this isn't just about price anymore. No, it's not. This is again about infrastructure, trust layers, compliance, security and aid driven finance, which we're super excited about. Tokenization and the next phase of the digital financial system. This where it gets exciting. Now at the same time you're watching growing instability across the political and financial landscape all over the world. It's amazing to watch in real time, right? Institutional distrust, anti establishment momentum, geopolitical fragmentation, economic uncertainty and uncertain times, while entirely new financial rails are actually quietly being built underneath the surface. No one's aware, nobody's watching. And that's why tonight really matters. Because once you see how these pieces all interconnect, you actually stop looking at XRP flare, tokenization, AI and institutional finance as separate stories. You actually start realizing this is one giant infrastructure transition. And honestly, I think most people out there are still way too early to what's actually happening here. Early? Are we still in the toddler phase? Where, where are we actually going? So buckle up because tonight we're going to try to connect some of the dots. You guys are ready for this? I'm ready. We're going to kick this thing Off. Let's go. Welcome to on the. Right. Welcome. What is going on? Everybody out there. Welcome to on the Chain. Give a quick shout out where you are tuning in from. It's all about you guys. You guys make this channel happen. Super proud that you guys are in our crowd now. What is actually happening here? Right. What are we doing? The channel where we connect the dots between crypto, macro, AI, geopolitics and the future of the financial system is really important. I'm Jeff and tonight this is one of those episodes where the story gets a lot bigger than just one little drop of XRP. That's right. Because what we're seeing develop around flare XRP5 transparency standards and institutional defi infrastructure actually looks less like crypto adoption and more like the early framework of an entirely parallel financial system or financial ecosystem. Or are we getting some transparency and functionality into the financial infrastructure? So tonight we're going to break down flares computation layer. Maybe we'll say a little surface why institutions needed these missing trust layers. I think that part's really important. Why do we need trust layers? Firelight's economic security model, the Transparency Alliance. What is the Transparency Alliance? And Ripple's expanding ecosystem. This is. They just keep growing. They don't stop. Right. Swell. And Apex converging and why institutional defy may finally be crossing into the next phase. And then later in the show we're also going to connect this to the. You guessed it, the geopolitical instability happening globally right now as you speak. No. Whatever country you're coming from, you guys attest to it. Because none of these stories are happening in isolation. This is where the dots start getting, you know that we used to connect the dots. Well, that's what we're going to get into. We're going to do all that right about now. Okay, quick shout out to everybody tuning in. The king from the Gold Coast, Australia. What is going on? Flip the switch, Chad, flip the switch. What's going on? Rope resuio. Yeah. I wish we could just. Everyone can kind of fix their names. It's so hard to remember who everybody is. M. And then we got Art. What's going on? M is over in the Netherlands. Got Blue Moon Billy over in Canada. There you go. We just covered the whole world just like that. Boom. Netherlands, Australia, Canada. What else do we need? We got the U.S. we got Florida. So there you go. There you have it. All right. What are we going to start with tonight? Let's get it. I want to get into the flare compute layer. That is enabling. Is Going to enable xrpl, the actual XRP L conversation within, you guessed it, the big institutions. What are they waiting for? What is it going to take to get the big institutions to start realizing that we need some adoption? And that's right, privacy is the key to global adoption. Definitely need some of that privacy. Definitely also need some of that security. Right. Definitely want some security. So, all right, what do we got to do here? Let's share the screen. Going to go with the entire screen. We're going to share the audio and we're going to watch this great conversation here. This was Hugo filing on the compute layer. Privacy, trading, lending and collateral for RWAS issued, you guessed it, on the xrpl. So here we go. Let's. Let's roll this, add it, make sure volumes tuned up. And here we go.
Hugo
So the last component is privacy.
Jeff
Hopefully you guys can hear it.
Hugo
Allows you to.
Jeff
Seems really low.
Hugo
Hang on within that layer.
Jeff
Can you guys hear that? Seems like super low. Not sure if it was my volume turned down. Let me see. Let me try it again. See, maybe there's just a record, a low recording. Let's try it again. Here we go.
Hugo
So the last component is privacy, which allows you to build applications within that layer, but without having to expose exactly who you are and what you're trading to the whole world. And then when you want, you can do trading, you can do lending, you can collateralize various different instruments. And I think this is absolutely pitched towards institutional finance RWAs. Right? And it really nicely.
Jeff
Oh, what now? I'm trying to tweak the, the volume a little bit. It's weird because the guy interviewing him is really loud and then him not so much. Let me see. Let me just rewind a little bit. Tell me what you guys think. I did. I fixed it for myself. I can hear it. Okay. It's perfect for me.
Hugo
So the last component is privacy, which allows you to build applications within that layer, but without having to expose exactly who you are and what you're trading to the whole world. And then when you want, you can do trading, you can do lending, you can collateralize various different instruments. And I think this is absolutely pitched towards institutional finance RWAs and it really nicely augments what the XRP ledger is doing in the institutional space with regards to onboarding of RWAs and with regards even to their ZK privacy circuits. So, you know, Flare's compute layer will enable the XRP ledger and the team at Ripple, I hope to be able to talk to their potential clients for RWAS and institutional finance to say this is what you can do on the XRP ledger and our partner Flare can help you, you know, has this other functionality that you can use.
Jeff
Right.
Hugo
So I think it's valuable to the ecosystem as a whole because we don't want to just be providing solutions for XRP, we want to be providing solutions for RWAs that are issued on the XRP ledger.
Jeff
That's big, right? It's not just about Ripple, it's about so much more compared to, you know, consider what they're building, what's happening, where they can go with it and their entire target market. And that's, that's really a big deal. You know, they have to really consider, you know, how are they going to orchestrate and how meaningful is Flare to this new financial revolution, to the financial ecosystem. All the things that are going to be needed. If you think about AI, the AI impact on finance, I, I don't think anyone really saw that part coming. To see exactly what's required for AI to start m moving, moving money and, and how it's going to, going to speed up the entire economy, which is super impressive. So. All right, let's pull this one down. I want to, I want to stick with Flare and so we're just going to knock out some of these good Flares articles. Now there's another one that popped up now. I thought this was interesting. Maybe not so relevant to us in the US any longer, however, maybe relevant to everybody else out there around the world that can still trade with Bitru. XRPL is where XRP moves Blair Networks is where XRP becomes programmable as the ultimate data backbone. Power empowering, decentralized lending. Like Morpho, Firelight and RWA Infrastructure, Flare is leading the 2026 utility narrative. And there you go. APY 6% over a bit. True, that wasn't really the point. The point is how fired up they are about that combo. Right? It's all about the Flare network and Bitru. Still able to earn yield over on bitru. Not if you're in the US though. You're not using, not using the BITRU in the US any longer. Not when they told everyone, hey, by the way, if you're in the us you're not gonna be able to use the platform any longer and make sure you get all your assets off of, off of their platform. So we did, I did removed all assets. All right, so here, let's get into one other one. This is, let's one another video. Another one with Hugo, same interview. Maybe this volume will be A little bit louder. Find out in a second. But this one here, institutions want D5 mandates require coverage. Hugo and why Firelight Fire Light Fi's insurance layer isn't optional. It is a prerequisite. So that's what we're gonna, that's we're going to listen to right now. It's a prerequisite. So let's hear what Hugo had to say about this one. Here we go.
Hugo
This is an absolute. Being able to offer this is, I think, and I think the team at Firelight definitely think a total prerequisite to allowing institutions into DeFi. Institutions would like to use DeFi, but it's tough for them to use DEFI because they have mandates which mean that they have to use products that are insured. Firelight is that insurance layer, and that will grow over time, I think. And the scale of it in terms of the amount of XRP that it could take in and lock up is, I think, almost unlimited because the DEFI space is very large. And I think there's going to be. Be a very sizable growing appetite for defi.
Jeff
Carver Hear that? You know, it's amazing just the perspective, the direction, the focus on the institution, what the institution is craving. Do they want to dip into crypto? They want to get into defi. It's hard when the rails aren't there necessarily in terms of the protective rails. Think about if you go bowling as a kid, they put down those bumpers and you're basically bumper bowling. So they need some sort of financial guardrail, the big institutions, to know that they're not getting into this Wild west environment within DeFi. And so they get the guardrails, they get the protective, protective mechanisms, they get all of the elements that are required. And now, you know, full, full on in. So there's still some orchestration and construction building that has to, that has to occur. But he's really spot on with that. You know, it's exciting to say the least, to see the direction things can take. Again, I don't think anybody really anticipated what AI's part with all of this is going to be and exactly what's going to happen. So a lot of things are speeding up right now and I think everyone's going to start playing catch up. And it's amazing. People just haven't. They're not reading through everything perfectly. I was at a, at a bar the other night or the other day and a couple of guys were talking, they were in trade and so they were talking about, do you get into AI? Like what is it all about AI. The companies aren't profitable and the big play right now within AI is the hardware infrastructure that's building it. All of the semiconductors and the chips and it's just like you know, stuff all the different hardware component that goes into all of the different construction. Because if you have to have more chips, you have to have more facilities. The facility construction has to take place. They're talking about construct construction of data centers. So there's all these different peripheral companies around AI that are benefactors and so you're seeing all those stocks and kind of go through the roof in order to, to build up where the AI. Build up AI, you know, and essentially build up the infrastructure around AI. Now you think about where crypto is and before everyone was so hyper focused on the processing of Bitcoin and the energy it takes, nobody's even talking about the data centers that, that it takes to power AI. I mean maybe there's some discourse, but it's now we're talking about big cities wanting to attract the data centers and the power consumption that's going to be required and the noise and everything else to power up these massive data centers way beyond anything that they could envision, you know, for bitcoin mining or something like that. But it's just very, very cool to see what's going on. Chad saying the return for AI will come in the replacement of future labor costs. I think there's, there's a lot going on. There was another discussion debate over does AI currently replace any of the, the job labor. And I think you know, from a hands on labor plumbers, electricians, construction that's obviously can be supported through AI. It could help simplify construction pro process or picking out materials or helping to analyze something and just put help speed up some of the analytic process. Are they going to get replaced? Not until robotics are firmly in place and who knows when that'll be. But the AI perspective, if you can use AI to your betterment, AI is an amazing tool. You know, question is how many people are going by the wayside right now because of AI which is replacing a lot of the, the jobs out there on a rapid basis, a rapid pace. So all right, what is this one? Here's another one. Let's get rid of this. Hugo just Talked about the D5. This is the Transparency Alliance. What exactly is the Transparency Alliance? What do we care about it? What do we want to know about it? So let's, let's figure out what this is all about. So the Transparency alliance and an industry Led alliance establishing the Token Transparency Framework as the standard for token market disclosures. So now we're hearing a lot about the standards. Before there wasn't a lot of talk about the normal guard. Again, the guardrails, the standards, the infrastructure, deciding what works and what doesn't. We've always talked about those rules of the rote. You got to get it also from a legality perspective, we have to understand the rules of the road and how we, how we all play in the sandbox. So. All right, let's look with. All right, there you go. Basically an ad for the Transparency Alliance. I was gonna say the transparency mandate, but it's really for the, for the alliance. Block Works then said the full founding collective includes exchanges, custodians, market makers, stablecoin issuers, funds, protocols, launch platforms all publicly committed to the Token Transparency Framework. When you buy a stock, you own the business. When you buy a token, ownership can sometimes be difficult to identify. The Token Transparency Framework fixes that. The Transparency alliance drives TTF adoption across every major layer of token capital markets. Very cool. So the Token Transparency Framework ttf, the Token Transparency Framework gives issuers the ability to collectively self disclose. That's the issuer token holders the information they need to underwrite tokens. As crypto enters its institutional phase, everyone's getting ready for this. Token markets need uniform disclosures to support serious capital flows. For founders, the B1 filing is the new default for market entry. For mature protocols. The B2 filing is the standard for continual disclosure. This is how we bring trust to on chain markets. Reach out to research, blah, blah, blah, to get more involved. This is really, really important because this is the move, this is the momentum. We're talking about the maturation stage for the crypto space, the blockchain space, the tokenization phase. Getting into the institutions, they talk as crypto enters its institutional phase. That's it. All of this structure is so needed and, and it's super, super timely that it's happening at this moment. This is something that think everyone's been waiting for because guess what, you know, it's getting ready to explode. That's what's going to happen here. So here we go. All right, let's move on. Let's keep going. What do we get? So we get the ripple. Best in the bay. What is this? We're proud to announce that Ripple has been named one of the Fortune magazine's best place. I think it might be the only place to work in San Francisco at this point. Oh, and then the article is gone. Let me See, shoot. The article is gone. Great places to work. Maybe it wasn't true. Maybe they got rid of it. That'd be kind of crazy. Let me see. No, I can't find it. The article just disappeared. They pulled it down. But anyhow, so it said that. So Ripple was nominated by Fortune magazine's best workplaces in the Bay for 2026. And I'm debating whether or not, you know, there's anybody else in the Bay Area that still has a company, being that everyone is fleeing to states other than California. But here's, here's the article actually from, from Ripple. So I can put that up. Here we go. We're a great place to work, Sarah. To certify. There you go. Best in the Bay again. We're proud to announce that Ripple has been named one of the Fortune magazine's best workplaces in the bay area for 2026. Big thanks to every Rippler who makes this possible. Anyone who's fired up about California or Ripple, I guess you're super excited. Very cool for Ripple to be the best in the Bay. But hey, you know what? Time to leave. Time to go somewhere else and let's bring them to another state. That'd be. That'd be very cool. I like to see them in another state. They don't need to be in California. Very offensive to be there in California. Andu finance is in the Ripple building. That's very cool. Very, very cool. Joe Bud said, flare is under a penny, folks. Just buy a dollar to $2 a day. You won't notice the dough gone and your bags will grow. That's a imagine. You know what, that's a great point. That's a lot of Blair that you're uncovering there with a buck. There you go. Lot happening now. Why would Ando want to go to California? Maybe they were already in the Bay Area. Is that possible? And they decided to hang out there. I don't know why people want to go there. Used to be a nice place. Have to admit though, I haven't been to the Bay in many, many years. So here we go. Get ready for this is just like we were just talking about. So it's next up on the agenda. Oh, that sucks. Ando Crater died yesterday. Oh, that's sad. And that's. This is the it right here. David responding. David Schwartz responding. I've had the pleasure of meeting Nathan. He was truly a thoughtful builder and leader in the industry. We are grateful for the opportunity to work with him and, and for his partnership. Our thoughts are with his Family and the entire Ando team. It is with profound sadness that we announce the unexpected passing. Nathan Ullman Anders, founder, Ando's founder. Our hearts are with his family and loved ones. Nate's brilliance, humility and drive shaped every part of what Ando is today. His belief in the power of technology to create and then it just. Sure, there's more here. Oh, there we go. Great. A more open, accessible financial system lives on in everything we build. The impact he had on this industry and on all of us personally cannot be overstated. Nate has helped us build a durable organization with experienced leaders across all facets of the business. Ian DeBond, Ondo Finance, longtime president, will serve as CEO. Ian has been leading our strategy, product and day to day operation for over two years and has a full confidence of the leadership team. We will continue building what Nate started. That is the most meaningful way we know to honor him. And there you go. So it's sad when you see a leader go in the industry like that as well. And something sudden that happened, kind of like Kyle Busch, NASCAR driver, also suddenly died this past week or last week. So it's crazy when you, you get these. I don't know how old the founder of Ando was, but presumably he was. He was young like Kyle Busch, 41 years old, died of sepsis. It's crazy. All right, let's see what we got here. Let's go into the XRP or the. The Ripple X dev. Ripple X tokenized treasuries. And so this is Anda right here. Ondo Finances. Nate. Nathan Almond. So, yeah, you'll see. I wonder what happened. Maybe somebody can look it up. Let me, let me pull them here. See? So this was. This was a year ago, actually, this video. And so we're gonna hear from Nathan Almond Shares why OUSG on the XRPL settled seamlessly with ROSD is a milestone for institutions. This is how tokenization goes mainstream. It's. It's crazy. You get these brilliant minds, founders of big companies and. Yeah. So. All right, let's pull this up. This was a year ago. This was June 2025. Here we go.
Nathan Allman
It is fascinating how cyclical and wavelike markets can.
Jeff
Can be.
Nathan Allman
I've sailed competitively my whole life. Sailing builds mental toughness in responding to the changing tides. Building that's like a really important mentality to have.
Jeff
Yeah, look how young is.
Nathan Allman
I'm Nathan Allman. I'm the founder and CEO of Ondo Finance. When we think about Wall Street 2.0, it's really about combining the best of traditional finance with the best of decentralized finance and public blockchains with decentralized finance, when you have this sort of one click, sign in to different financial applications. Frankly, for me, it was like a pretty magical experience to be able to self custody all of my assets and then with a single click take out a loan from one protocol and then trade from another protocol. Ultimately that unlocks more choice and more competition. And that's in such huge contrast to how things work in Tradfi where if you want to move your securities from one broker dealer to another, it's a multi day, multi week process. At Ondo, we started out by building tokenized Treasuries. In order to build institutional grade products like ousg, we really need to work with partners that have a focus on institutional grade standards and 247 instant convertibility. So we're really excited to finally be able to bring OUSG to XRP Ledger, the decentralized public blockchain to continue to build institutional grade cash products alongside Ripple. That's something that a lot of our institutional clients have been really drawn to. It's about routing capital and assets to make a financial system that is ultimately faster, fairer and more accessible to everyone. Tokenization is not just a pilot or a stepping stone, but actually has real commercial utility today. And we've seen that in the numbers. 200 billion plus in stable coins, 5 billion plus in tokenized treasuries. And our offerings now between OUSG and RLUSD are used every day, constantly in production. We have real investors instantly minting and redeeming in many cases, tens of millions of dollars at a single point in time. This is that watershed inflection point moment.
Jeff
Man35 that's crazy. So crazy. Yeah, that was a year ago. Talking about the progress, the benefit of what Ando bringing to. Bringing to the space. Truly glad, glad to have brilliant minds. Glad that he's able to have the impact that he could have and, and leave the. Leave the space with a legacy, which is very cool. All right, so here we go. What is this? Something else going on? It's swell. We can go over swell. And then someone just filed a trademark or two. So we got to talk about what that means. What. What's going on with some new trademarks. This is swell. Hosted by none other than Ripple. That's right, Hosted by ripple. October 27th to the 29th in New York City. And there you go, your home for all things Ripple. Swell. Swells, where the future of global finance is built. Every year, financial Leaders, builders and founders, developers and researchers come together to explore what's ahead of at the intersection of traditional finance and the on chain economy. That's right. On the chain. On chain economy. This year New York City and for the first time Swell and Apex unite into one event. One massive event. New website is live. Super early bird pricing extended through May 31st. Call for speakers closes on the 29th. That would be awesome. There you go. Chip was saying where's the promo code? We need a promo code. What's up with XRP is that is Swell gonna boost the price of the xrp? That's what people are asking for some xrp. Now what about the trademarks? This is kind of crazy too. I saw crypto Eddie had posted this this X post on trademarks. So what's going on here with the trademark? Why is this important? What is happening with all of this? Let's see. Exclusive scoop. Ripple just filed two new trademarks for their iconic Triskelion and Word mark. Common reasons companies do this. Let's see. They want to expand protection for new services. It's also a standard move now. Expanded goods and services downloadable. This is everything included in their in their trademark Downloadable software for treasury operations, payment services, transferring funds, digital asset management, cash management, investment risk. There's all, all these different. I mean it's amazing. Look at a security brokerage, financial brokerage finance, financial clearing hours, investment management, hedge fund operation, financing services, security repurchase brokerage, electronic data storage, all sorts of amazing, amazing things. And there you go. Ripple downloadable software namely an electronic platform for use in connection with treasury operations, payment services etc. That's Ripple Labs 5-15-2026 for the Ripple. Now the image trademark also filed 5-15-2026 downloadable software namely an electronic platform for use in connection with treasury operation, payment services etc. And there you have it. How do they get the triskillion out from Disney? I. I don't know. Did they did Disney trademark that for Marvel? Exactly. Looking like that. You know that also looks like the flux capacitor from Back to the Future. If you turn it could be the flux capacitor. Right. Potentially XRP trademark still up for grabs because they don't give nice. Not true. That's right. Crypt ready. Tell them, you tell them a one stop shop as diverse in financial services as possible. They're covering their bases. Truly, truly impressive to see what's going on over there. So there you go. Great Scott. All right, what else we got? Other cool things do we back in for tonight? You know we Packed in the bottom of the hour. We packed in some geopolitics. Cool geopolitics too. Not just some weak ass geopolitics. We're talking about all of this. Hang on a second. It's hard to pull everything up. And then, hey, McFly. One of my favorite movies ever. Then I was all excited. My son was probably 10 or 11. I'm like, oh, you got to watch Back to the Future. We're gonna watch Back to the Future scene when he goes back to the future. They're both standing there, they send the dog back and you get the fire goes between their legs, you know, as it hits 88 miles an hour. He had the fire. My son looks at that, he goes, oh, that's so fake. He goes, that doesn't even look like real fire. He got up and walked out of the room. I'm like, seriously, because of the special effects, you're going to walk out. This was Back to the Future. This iconic. Come on. Since any has watched it. But all right, this, the next Congress will not have. Al Green, Jasmine Crockett, D. Dan Crenshaw, Eric Swallow, Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi, Don Bacon, Jerry Nadler, Bill Cassidy, Thomas Massie, John Cornyn. It's called draining the swamp. That's right. So far. So far so good. We're getting rid of it. Look at that drilling. Deporting it, ditching it, draining it. That's it. A lot has to happen. Still more to come. But it's really good to see. Really good to see which effects they saw. Yeah, that. That's right. They weren't very special. They were like some, obviously some fake cgi whatever they used back then, it was not like Star wars, which was like cutting edge type stuff. What do we got here? Oh, Ken Paxton. What do we have here? Who's out? Who's out? Who's in? A lot of stuff happening. People are saying, oh, Mag is losing. Maggie's not going anywhere. Tell you what, you know, is losing. The deep state and the. And the rhinos are losing. Here we go. Shooting. Here we go. Boom. Here you go. This is Donald Trump's 2026 endorsement scorecard. And the left can't stand it. That's right. Governor Trump endorsed eight, one eight U.S. house under one endorsed one under one. U.S. senate endorsed nine candidates. Won nine candidates. Ken Paxton was outspent nine to one. That's right. Associated Press projects. Ken Paxton wins Texas GOP Senate pro primary runoff. That's right. Let that be a lesson to all of them. All those guys who's running. That's it. Time to get rid of them. Time to let the. It's time for them to go home. All these lifer politicians that don't belong there, they gotta go. They don't want them there. Don't want them. They were meant to go home. Go home and work their, their actual jobs. Being a career politician is not a career. Not wasn't meant to be that way. Cut their salary in half. Then we'll see how much of a career those guys make out of it. I'm talking about. Here we go. Let's go. Oh, let me pause that. I don't know what this video. Good, bad, indifferent. Ken Paxton won by supporting the SAVE Act. That's right. He did. He did. But you know what? We gotta have the SAVE Act. Here you go. Well, Senator John Cornyn still remain Trump's friend. As Trump says the 1776 fund and more. Who wins Texas and goes to the US Senate after the November's midterm. There you go. Congratulations to Ken Paxton on such a tremendous win and a John Cornyn coman for having run a strong and powerful race. But more importantly, having had a truly great career, John will remain my friend for a long time to come. And we both watch Ken become a fantastic common sense senator, one who is respected by all. And there you go. That's how you do it. That's how you go. Louie Louie saying I add XRP every month looking for that buck 29 to buck 30 drop. There's got to be a floor coming up. I don't even know what is it at? Like a buck 35. I didn't even see where the XRP might be. All right, what do we got? Cornyn's new job. Some of this stuff is funny, you know, to see what is their. What's the, what's going on with them as they lose elections and they kind of move on. Here we go. I gotta drag them over here, wrap them, then we'll come back over here, make sure that we got share the screen. And there it is right there. John. John Cohen starts next week. Hey, I'm John. Welcome to Walmart. How can I help you? Come on. What does that say? What does that say? All right, let me get rid of all these tabs over here. It's too much. All right, this next one here, this is Benny Johnson. And it's just there was so much winning going on, it's hard to keep up with all the, all the winning. Okay, but this is. Oh, here we go. Let me share this One. This was James Talarico was asked what's the first thing he thinks about besides family? His answer. Well, let's. Let's hear what he has to say. Texas, this is your Democrat Senate candidate. Vote accordingly in November. Not think about jobs, not the border, not inflation, not fentol. Killing families. This young, young, naive. All right, let's watch it. Let's see what this kid has to say. Something that you love. That's not family or friends.
Nathan Allman
I love. I'm just saying this because it's on my mind. The trans children who showed up yesterday at the state Capitol to advocate for their humanity, they shouldn't have to, but it was an inspiration to watch.
Jeff
Oh, God. That. That's what. That's what they're. They're worried about. They're not worried about anything else in and around the safety or prosperity of the state. That's. That's all these. These guys are constantly just projecting out there. They're talking points. They have nothing else. They have nothing else to stand on. Zero. They got nothing. It's insane. What are they. They got nothing. That's why they're losing. That's why they'll continue to lose. That's why Rhinos are losing also. They got nothing to stand on. They're out there just, you know, trying to get money, they're trying to get paid, trying to get enriched on the backs of the people. So this was Maze. Middleton has defeated Chip Roy in the GOP primary for Texas Attorney General and will now be the nominee this November. Middleton has vowed to quash the Islamification of Texas, keep Texas red and repel Islam. And that's what Eric Daugherty said here. Let's see what Mays Middleton has to say. The great state of Texas. All right, here we go.
Eric Daugherty
Because we are a Christian nation. We are a Christian state, period. The end. I took on our foreign adversaries as well. Stop China from buying our land, tripled border security, designated cartels as terrorists. And I'm now taking on one of our most growing and biggest threats, which is Sharia law and Islamification.
Jeff
You know, Sharia law is organized crime, period.
Eric Daugherty
And I will treat it as such. I also changed the law to stop these radical Muslim groups like CARE and Muslim Brotherhood from buying any property in
Jeff
Texas that is a scorched earth. What a difference. What a difference between him and then the other guy, right? It just. It just puts everything into perspective. Who do you want? Who are you voting for? To protect the great state of Texas. Now, how about. How about New York you guys saw what happened in New York. I don't even know if I want to play this stuff. This stuff is just. It's so absurd, but it. It's kind of. Well, we told you so. We told you this is what this was coming. Now they're going to act first and then worry about lawsuits later because what they're doing is highly improbable according to our legal system.
Interviewer
I would think when necessary, we will take aggressive legal action to remove negligent owners and property managers.
Jeff
Now, this part sounds good, right? There's negligent homeowners or negligent property managers and building owners. They're neglecting the property. They're not fixing them up like they should.
Interviewer
And for buildings that have suffered chronic
Jeff
neglect, maybe they couldn't afford to fix them because your high taxes. Maybe they are ignoring them. They just want to let their infrastructure crumble. I don't know.
Interviewer
We will work to transfer ownership to responsible stewards.
Jeff
Now, what does that mean? How are you going to work to transfer ownership of somebody else's? I get it. You want to hold them accountable for making sure they create a. They provide for a safe environment in their buildings and their rentals, keep them up to standard. But how do you transfer ownership of a building to a responsible steward? What does that mean? Even. What is a responsible steward? You're basically saying here you're responsible for taking care of the property because a steward is just an overseer, a caretaker. And that means that in his mind, that those properties belong to the people. Is that. Is that what he's saying?
Interviewer
Stewards that include community land trusts.
Jeff
There you go, nonprofits. There you go,
Interviewer
nonprofits.
Jeff
Or even the tenants themselves. Yeah, that's. That would be. Now, the tenants would have high HOA dues to take care of the properties themselves. So you want to sell them off. The owner gets at least gets it at fair value, market value. You want to buy the home, the owners out, they get fair value. I mean, this whole thing, right, you're going to own nothing and you're going to like it. This whole narrative, the smile, the motif, all women behind them, you know, they're just. This whole thing is just so faked. Just their mentality, they don't care about the people. They want to destroy the economy. He's a communist through and through. Actually, he's trying. He's for fighting for the Islamification of New York. That's it. But I mean, I watch this stuff and it's just so unbelievable. I mean, it's just like not Even comprehendable that the Democrats will still support that. That's. They voted for it. So they're gonna have to live with the consequences. But the problem is I, you know, I don't. I think they're gonna have some issues in court. He can say whatever he wants to say, I guess. Just like he did with the free buses. And it came to the free buses and what do they get? Not free buses. Think the prices went up. Trump shuts down usa, Suddenly, guess what? Democrat Party broke. Because you know what? They were siphoning all their money out of US eight as they were from. From all these others. I think it was Epstein. I think it is Epstein's son. And all right, they have four years. They're going to be so broke. They're going to be like Detroit after the riots. God, I don't know. I'm glad I'm not there. I hope you're not in New York City. It's so horrible here you have the RNC 123 million. Oh, the DNC. They're negative 3 million. They can't even raise funds from their own people. It's. It's so bad. They have no money because they were siphoning all their money from. From USA and other nos. All their pet projects. I love this here's. These are great. I love these. These different posts here. Look at this one. There you go, Beavis. I'd paint Gavin for free. There you go. Oh, my God. It's just. It's amazing. Go through that stuff. So funny. All right, hang on a second. Here's another one. See what we got here. Aoc. What? Is this country for real? Oh, I guess this was for real. This is so. Oh, my God. I don't even know what to say. Here, look at this. To our neighbors, our community, and to this country, we can bring light. You don't even care that our community into this country, we can bring light. So ridiculous. It's so absurd. They're so stupid. That's right. She does have to kiss the ring. Then this is. Let's see. Oh, this, this. Here we go. What? I'll just play this one. Hang on a second. This is Ted Cruz, just Democrat throws a tantrum after Ted Cruz asks what party passed the Jim Crow laws.
Senator Hirono
Because you think you are the smartest person in the world doesn't mean the rest of us agree to that.
Eric Daugherty
Okay, thank you, Senator Hirono, Senator Cruz. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a moment ago, our colleague Senator Hirono said there's a lot more to say and indeed, she's right. And in fact, I want to go back to her comments. She began by saying we have a long history of racial discrimination in this country. That's undoubtedly correct. And then she said, quote, we had poll taxes, we had literacy tests. We even had tests of how many jelly beans are in a jar. Mr. Chamberlain, when Senator Hirono says we had poll taxes, I want to ask you who we is and in particular, what party was it that implemented poll taxes in the South?
Nathan Allman
I don't want to necessarily speak in every single case, but I'm pretty confident it was mostly the Democrats.
Eric Daugherty
And what party was it that put literacy tests in place in the South?
Nathan Allman
Same answer. Mostly the Democrats.
Eric Daugherty
And what party was it that had tests like how many jelly beans are in a bottle?
Nathan Allman
The Democrats?
Eric Daugherty
Tell me, what party were the founders of the Ku Klux Klan from?
Nathan Allman
I'm pretty sure that was the Democrats.
Eric Daugherty
Indeed. In fact, Nathan Bedford Forrest, the founder of the Klan, was a delegate to the 1860 Democrat National Convention. What party wrote the Jim Crow laws in the South?
Nathan Allman
The Democrats.
Eric Daugherty
And so on this side of the aisle were members of the Republican Party. Who was the first Republican president?
Nathan Allman
Abraham Lincoln.
Eric Daugherty
The Republican Party was literally founded to oppose slavery. We came into existence because slavery was a grotesque evil. And it was President Lincoln, the first Republican president, who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, who won the Civil War and that resulted in the freeing of the slaves and the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. By the way, fast forward to the civil rights era. Bull Connor, one of the most noxiously racist politicians. What party was he from?
Nathan Allman
He was a Democrat.
Eric Daugherty
The Democrats, for the entire history of their party, have been a party based on racial discrimination. They affirmatively embrace it. They support it. Let me ask you, Mr. Grime, is discrimination, is discriminating based on race consistent with the United States Constitution? No. What does the 14th Amendment say about discrimination based on race?
Spencer Pratt
It's prohibited.
Eric Daugherty
What does the 15th amendment say about discriminating based on race and in particular drawing congressional lines and explicitly discriminating based on race? It's prohibited. Now, the Democrats are fond of telling this story. That is, and I wish I could find a kinder way to say it, a flat out lie that without discriminating based on race that no African Americans will be elected and no Hispanics will be elected. Indeed, there was one fellow online who was a vocal left wing spokesperson who tweeted out, if I'm advising anybody to run for president, they sure as hell better have a solution to how you make sure that it's not another hundred years before another black person can represent South Carolina. So that's a typical Democrat statement, that we cannot elect a black person in South Carolina without discriminating based on race. I want to ask you, Mr. Chamberlain, who is the junior senator from South Carolina right now?
Nathan Allman
That would be Tim Scott.
Eric Daugherty
And all right, I'll tell you what I said online. I said, hey, Grok, who is Tim Scott and why do Democrats think he isn't black? And by the way, was Tim Scott elected because of a gerrymandered district drawn only to elect an African American?
Nathan Allman
No, he won statewide.
Eric Daugherty
He. He won statewide. By the way, the Democrat position is you can only elect African Americans with a gerrymandered district. I will point out Burgess Owens, an African American, is elected in a majority white district in the state of Utah, he's a Republican. Byron Donalds, another African American, is elected in the majority white district. In Florida, he is a Republican. John James, another African American, is elected in a majority white district In Michigan, he is a Republican. And my own congressman, Wesley Hunt, who represents me in the House of Representatives, he is elected in the majority white district. He is a Republican. And yet in the Democrats world, you are not black if you're not a liberal Democrat. There is an arrogance to African American voters. By the way, they also have that same arrogance to Hispanic voters. They say you're not Hispanic if you're not a liberal Democrat. Well, I'll tell you, I am proud to be the first Hispanic ever elected to represent the state of Texas in the United States Senate. And Mr. Chamberlain, in my election in Texas, was I elected in the gerrymandered district that could only elect an Hispanic?
Jeff
No.
Nathan Allman
You were elected statewide.
Eric Daugherty
Discrimination based on race is wrong. Final question. The Democrats are now clutching their pearls that seats drawn to elect liberal Democrats in the south are going to go away. You may get black Republicans instead. Indeed, in Tennessee, they're freaking out that a liberal white guy who's a Democrat is likely going to lose his seat to an African American woman who's a Republican. And they say that's horrible racial oppression. My final question is this. If you look nationwide, which party has egregiously abused gerrymandering for decades? Both parties are guilty of it. But which. Who has been the worst offender? And in particular, take New England, take Massachusetts, take Connecticut, take Rhode island, take Maine, take Vermont, take New Hampshire. How many Republicans are elected from all of New England in the House of Representatives?
Nathan Allman
I think the answer to that is zero.
Eric Daugherty
Zero. They've drawn every district in a Naked gerrymander. And yet they're very upset that their illegal pursuit of power has now been stopped by the Supreme Court that is enforcing the Constitution and prohibiting the racial gerrymandering discrimination their party is built on.
Jeff
Senator Bedell.
Senator Hirono
Part of personal privilege.
Jeff
Sure.
Senator Hirono
I feel personally aggrieved to sit.
Jeff
Aggrieved. He's personally aggrieved here.
Senator Hirono
And to be lectured by my colleague from Texas. And this reminds me of the time when he was first elected to the Senate and the Judiciary Committee had a hearing on gun safety. And he felt a need to lecture Dianne Feinstein, who was a leader on gun safety legislation. And he took that opportunity to lecture Dianne Feinstein about gun safety. And.
Jeff
And he was right.
Senator Hirono
Her leadership on the issue. She said to him something along the lines of, I did not sit here on this committee for. For however many years she did only to be lectured by you.
Jeff
And that sat on the committee as a career politician, that did nothing.
Senator Hirono
That's how I feel. So why don't you just stop lecturing the rest of us? Just because you think you are the smartest person in the world doesn't mean the rest of us agree to that. Okay.
Eric Daugherty
Thank you, Senator Hirono. I knew Dianne Feinstein. I served with Dianne Feinstein. And you're not Diane Feinstein.
Jeff
All right, Senator, you gotta love Dead Cruise. Everybody's just on fire. It's so amazing. The left, they're so unhinged. They are so unhinged. All right, what? We have a couple more here. Hang on, let me get through just a few more. Hang on a minute. We get out of this one and we, like, stacked up on some of these videos. But. But this one is connecting all the dots on what's happening around the country. Well, Kane did a fantastic job refusing to allow Michigan Democrat senator candidate Abdul Al Sayed to take control of the inter interviewer, Dodge Kane's question about Al Sayed's proposal to abolish ice. That's right. Everyone on the left, all these guys, these nut jobs, they want to get rid of Ice White because they know they're bringing all the illegals in to try to devastate this country. There we go.
Interviewer
You would like to abolish ice. Now, what I would like to ask you is ICE is simply the enforcement mechanism for democratically elected laws of the people. Now, for a party who has talked about the threat to democracy, is it your position that you do not want to see the will of the people, the democratically elected laws enforced?
Abdul Al Sayed
First of all will, you and I both know that election law, excuse me, immigration law is not criminal law. Immigration law is civil law. It's like getting a parking ticket. So the idea that we should have a paramilitary force that is weaponized on our streets to enforce civil law seems to me to be a bit over the top, particularly considering the fact that the current president is weaponizing ICE against the idea of the rule of law itself. The idea that they should just be governed simply by Stephen Miller and Donald Trump without any enforcement around basic warrant law or the Constitution itself. That, to me, is frustrating. Now, I want to pivot just quickly because I do want to ask you, do you pump your own gas?
Interviewer
Well, before we start talking about whether or not I pump my own gas
Abdul Al Sayed
with your answer, it's important.
Interviewer
I appreciate, I appreciate the interesting having a conversation, Mr. Syed, but what I would suggest is I'm conducting this interview and I want to ask you about your positions. My interest today is you are running for Senate. No, excuse me. You are running for Senate in the state of Michigan. What I am curious about, as you conduct a tour targeted at counties that voted for both Joe Biden and President Donald Trump, is exactly how extreme or moderate your positions might be. I'm not running for elected office, so my position on current gas prices is of immaterial to the audience. Your positions as seeking elected office are what's losing. And what I would like to figure out is whether or not you believe in the rule of law. It's simply not true that immigration enforcement is simply a civil law. It is in the federal criminal code as well. It is violating the law. Law to come in this country illegally if you want no enforcement mechanism for it. What I see is you advocating for lawlessness. And when I see you say things like you did on your X feed. One moment. When I see things like you put on your X feed, which you did delete, like immigrants are American, refugees are American, undocumented people are American. Either that or the only real Americans are Native Americans. You pick. I see you denying something like the rule of law and the concept of citizenship. And I'm curious if that's your proposal to the people of Michigan.
Abdul Al Sayed
So if we want to talk about law enforcement, I do want to bring up the question about the $1.8 billion Department of Justice piggy bank that Donald Trump wants to hand out to people who clearly broke our laws on January 6. But I asked the question about gas prices because I happened to pump my gas just on Memorial Day. The worst part of my day was having to pay 82.89. Well, I thought about the fact that we lost more than a dozen service members in a war we never should have been fighting to raise those gas prices in the first place. If you want to talk about the rule of law, there are Mr.
Nathan Allman
Opportunities.
Interviewer
I appreciate your position and I will summarize it for the audience. You are opposed to the war in Iran and you do not like the current gas prices. But Mr. Sayed, we had a very friendly exchange last week. No, you know, you're not answering my question is the entire point.
Jeff
All right, the guy's annoying. This is what they're. Their whole modus operandi. Just keep, keep talking. And now let's. Let's go with this one. This was. We're going to end with a. A. Here we go. This is Spencer Pratt. So let's hang on to get rid of this one. Bring this one over. There we go. And we're going to. All right, so we can read through this. This is a big deal. Number one question everybody has for me when they hear my plan is how can we do that, Spencer? We don't have the money. We have the money. It's just being stolen. So what is. What does he have to say? Let's watch this together. Hang on a second. Rewind full screen. Here we go.
Spencer Pratt
The number one question that everybody has for me when they hear my plan is how can we do that? Spencer, we don't have the money. Let me clue you in on a little secret. We have the money. It's just being stolen. You pay countless tax dollars. You're taxed on your income. You're taxed on your gas. You're taxed on your property. You're taxed out. The every single expensive transaction you endure is tax. Yes. Hundreds of restaurants have shut their doors thanks to Karen Bass and Nithya Ramen. Big businesses are fleeing their terrible leadership. So revenue is decreasing and I will turn that around. But we have plenty of money in this city. It's just being stolen. Our streets are a mess. Every day people pop tires, their suspension is shot. All because our streets are left in utter neglect and disrepair.
Jeff
Potholes can cause some pretty costly car repairs.
Eric Daugherty
One pothole damaged as many as 10 cars.
Jeff
More than a dozen vehicles, many with blown out tires. Both of my tires on the passenger
Hugo
side just blew out completely.
Jeff
And the bench of my rim, I think, bent my door control arm. Resident Francisco Garcia collected these hubcaps. Evidence of the overnight damage. The average cost of a popol related car repair is about 600 bucks and it's something one in ten drivers have to deal with.
Spencer Pratt
We have not invested in our infrastructure and this is the consequences. These are beyond just potholes that have busted open under the negligence of Karen Bass. These are Bass holes. But people ask how can we fix the bass holes? We don't have the money. We do have the money. It's just being stolen. I met with the truckers who used to do this work for over a hundred years for LA paving our roads until Karen Bass came in.
Jeff
The city hasn't repaved a single street since last July. They say the cities are own data shows zero miles resurfaced this past year. And the draft budget proposes zero miles in the new year. How many people they have failing at
Nathan Allman
the most basic services at this point. Keeping people safe and keeping our streets functional.
Spencer Pratt
They used to do 600 miles of paving before Karen canceled their federal contract. And now the city just does 60 miles of paving. Also now Karen Bass only does a fraction of the basket tears that they did before her. Why? Well, in her first year as mayor, she stole the hundred million dollar contract that the federal government gave to these truckers and gave the money to NGOs profiting off of the homeless drug addicts. We have the money, it's just being stolen. What about public safety? We have less firefighters today than we had in the 1960s and yet the population of LA has doubled. But people ask how can we hire more firefighters? We don't have the money.
Jeff
He's so spot on.
Spencer Pratt
We do have the money. It's just being stolen right now. LAFD engines are so overwhelmed with responding to overdoses and rubbish fires, medicals and arson fires coming entirely from the attics on our streets. Because of Karen Bass policies with the city attorney, LAFD has to send out a, an ambulance and a Type 1 engine to every overdose, every sprained ankle, every toothache. They are sending those big red trucks that you see fighting fires all to shove Narcan up a homeless guy's nose. Those engines chew up about 30 gallons of diesel going on unnecessary runs because
Hugo
for stub toe toothaches, we, we do
Jeff
it all, whatever it is. We're here being a paramedic, we're the
Nathan Allman
busiest resource on the fire department.
Jeff
I go on 15 to 20 runs a day. There's only 24 hours in a day. So if you're going on 20 calls, you guys do the math.
Spencer Pratt
Across the department, we are wasting over $7 million every year on wasted fuel. Not to mention all the wear and tear and extra miles on these engines that should have been retired to Mexico 10 years ago, that are now breaking down, crashing, leaving us all, all in danger. Before the Palisades fire, the fire chief warned Karen Bass that they were dangerously underfunded and unable to keep Angelino safe. What did Karen Bass do? She cut the fire department budget by $17 million and gave it to, you guessed it, NGOs profiting off homeless drug addicts.
Jeff
Budget cuts have, quote, severely limited the department's capacity to prepare for, train for and respond to large scale emergencies, including wild fires. That warning about these budget cuts, we had a team on the ground, a crew there and witnessed number of homes
Nathan Allman
burned to the ground and there was not a fire truck in sight.
Jeff
How did that happen when there's a
Spencer Pratt
$17 million cut in our budget operating costs immediately? From that point, I had to make some tough decisions.
Jeff
Would that $17 million that had been cut from your budget have made a difference in this fight? Yes. So I would say yes, we were limited to a certain factor. Yes, we did exactly what we could
Senator Hirono
with what we had.
Spencer Pratt
We have the money. It's just being stolen. People ask, how can we treat the homeless? We don't have the money. We do have the money. It's just being stolen. Karen Bass and Nithya Rahman have sunk billions of dollars into the homeless problem. But it's all being wasted on dubious NGOs that increase drug use, hand out needles and crack pipes and actually give drugs to the addicts on the streets of LA. A developer bought a property for homeless housing at $11 million. Days later, the city paid him $27.3 million. A 16 million dollar flip. No new carpets, no pool addition, just straight up fraud.
Eric Daugherty
This is a property flip in west la in the neighborhood of Cheviot Hills that was highlighted in a federal prosecutor criminal indictment.
Jeff
That announcement actually in this Investor Steven
Eric Daugherty
Taylor, who purchased a property in West LA, purchased it for $11 million. He was at the same time selling it to weingarten center for $27 million financed by taxpayers. The appraisal used to justify the price had inaccurate information. There was inaccurate information about the ownership of the property.
Jeff
And we also found that Mayor Bass's office, there was some emails from the
Eric Daugherty
city indicating that her, her office was,
Jeff
had a big role in the selection of this property.
Spencer Pratt
And this is just one of the many projects that needs to be audited and investigated.
Jeff
A prominent homeless service provider, the Weingart center, has been awarded over $100 million in taxpayer funds despite years of failing
Spencer Pratt
to comply with federal audit mandates.
Eric Daugherty
When we asked the state comptroller's office, they say they don't review audits from nonprofits at all.
Spencer Pratt
We have the money. It's just being stolen. As your mayor, I will get your damn money back. I will audit every city program. Every department is going to show us all of their books. We will have forensic auditors come in and track down every last dollar. We have the money. It's just being stolen. It's like the inverse Robin Hood government is stealing from you and making themselves rich. Money that could go to lowering your rent, cleaning your streets, keeping you safe. You paid it. It's your tax money. It should be working for you. Man is coming to get it back.
Jeff
I'll come back. The Pratt man, Spencer Pratt. This guy's just crushing it with his commercials, man. Every one of them. Just nailing it. Every single one of them. So crazy. Yes. All right, so there you have it. Connecting all the dots. From crypto to geopolitics, you got to connect all the dots. Gotta focus on all of it. We covered a whole bunch of stuff today. Going back to flare solving XRP's biggest problem. And I don't think it is XLM anytime soon. Although I'm not opposed to the Stellar foundation and xlm. We relatively agnostic. We like all that. All the cryptos. Not all of them, but even the ship. I like the Shiba Inu. But you're right. Yeah. The problem, 95 of their employees are Democrats. It's probably all part of it. It's all pay for play. That's how they do it. That's how they move their money around. That's how they give their payback. Sixteen million dollar flips. That's awesome. I mean that's just insane. Can you imagine? You buy it for 11, you flip the next day for 20, 27 million, man. Crazy. Crazy. All right. With that is all we have got for tonight. Be back today's I can't believe it's Wednesday. Took the day off Sunday. We'll be back Saturday morning, 8:00am Eastern Standard Time. In the meantime. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Everybody love some xlm. In the meantime, check us out over on X. Go check out on the chain. It's on underscore Theore chain on the chain. We got to get the on the chain. No one's used it. We have it trademarked. That belongs to us. We need the on the chain anyhow. We will be back Saturday, 8:00am Eastern Standard Time. As always, thank you guys all for being here with us. Love the running it solo. And that's it. Have a great night, great evening. Have a great rest of the week. Get a couple drinks and we'll see you on the next one. I am out of here. See ya. Are you down with otc? Please, like, subscribe and click the bell to be notified when the next video drops.
Host: Jeff (On The Chain)
Date: May 28, 2026
This episode delves into the game-changing developments in the XRP ecosystem, focusing on Flare Network’s recent upgrades and how they address critical institutional barriers to XRP adoption—particularly in DeFi and tokenized real-world assets (RWAs). Host Jeff explores how Flare’s compute/privacy layer, institutional-grade insurance, and token transparency frameworks are not just boosting XRP, but collectively contributing to the creation of a new, parallel financial infrastructure. The discussion broadens to include waves of maturation across the crypto space, Ripple’s growing presence, and intersections with AI, geopolitics, and macro change.
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On Institutional Crypto Adoption:
“Institutions are... asking where is the actual transparency? Where is the security, where's the compliance? Where's the protection layer, where's the infrastructure?”
— Jeff (03:23)
On DeFi Insurance:
“Being able to offer this is... a total prerequisite to allowing institutions into DeFi. Institutions would like to use DeFi, but... they have mandates which mean that they have to use products that are insured.”
— Hugo (12:43)
On Flare’s Privacy Layer:
“...Build applications within that layer, but without having to expose exactly who you are and what you’re trading to the whole world.”
— Hugo (07:45)
On the Maturation of Crypto:
“This is the move, this is the momentum. We're talking about the maturation stage for the crypto space...”
— Jeff (18:40)
On Ondo & XRPL Tokenized Treasuries:
“...When you have this sort of one click, sign in to different financial applications. Frankly, for me, it was like a pretty magical experience to be able to self custody all of my assets and then with a single click take out a loan from one protocol and then trade from another protocol.”
— Nathan Allman (27:04)
On Real-World Progress:
“Tokenization is not just a pilot or a stepping stone, but actually has real commercial utility today. And we've seen that in the numbers. 200 billion plus in stable coins, 5 billion plus in tokenized treasuries.”
— Nathan Allman (28:10)
This episode provides an insightful, nuanced look at how Flare and Ripple are collaboratively dismantling the remaining barriers to massive institutional adoption of blockchain finance, with XRP at the heart of the evolution. Beyond price action, it’s about the technology, compliance, and transparency standards propelling the ecosystem into the future. For listeners wanting to understand where real change is happening “under the surface,” this episode draws the crucial connections across tech, finance, and world events.
For crypto natives, institutions, and observers alike: This is a must-listen (or must-read) for understanding how blockchain’s infrastructure phase may have much broader consequences than most realize.