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Ripple Just Got Investment Grade… What This Means for XRP
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Hey, welcome to on the Chain. This is Jeff here with co host Chip. What is going on? Chip, what's going on? Everybody out there in the on the Chain community tell you what's going on. Ripple just got an investment grade rating. This big news. That's not crypto hype, that's actual institutional validation. And at the same time, they've already deployed over 50 million into real business. Jobs created capital moving. This is real world execution. And while that's happening, most people are still focused on price. It's amazing. Still arguing narratives and they're missing what's actually being built.
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Yeah, because under the surface, the XRPL is being rebuilt, if you will. Kind of right now it's the core infrastructure we're looking at. And again, Jeff, it's not really talking about hype. It's not like about headlines. It's the kind of work that really sets the foundation for what comes next. And at the same time, institutional trust is increasing. So you got capital starting to flow. You've got Ripple sitting right in between the traditional sort of finance and digital assets.
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That's right. And Chip, here's the big question. What does this mean for xrp?
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I don't know. Let me think about that, Jeff. What does it mean exactly? Well, I'll tell you what it means. We got to get into it. Let's go. Welcome to on the Chain.
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All right, quick breakdown, Chip, of what we're going to be covering today. This is going to be great. First, what this investment grade rating for Ripple actually means and why this is a shift for institutions. We got to dig into that. People got to know. Then we're going to get into real world adoption, capital deployment, lending and what's actually happening outside of speculation. And the space has been all best speculative for a long time. Next we're going to go through what's happening under the hood with the xrpo because this is where things really get interesting. And then we're going to zoom back out and we're going to look at the macro backdrop that might be geopolitics. All the way back, all that. All the way back. We're going to go so far back and finally what all this means for XRP going forward.
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Beautiful. Well, why don't we start with this, Jeff? We're going to have to go ahead and show this big milestone right here. A quick little hit, but important. Just hit a big milestone with Zodao, a thousand members. And I'll kind of get into a little bit of what that unlocks here. So if we come up here, you can see that that basically is. It's a big deal because now you have the ability for individuals to start submitting proposals. There's a reason there was a thousand. You had to hit that thousand threshold for consensus because 01 is a cap built in. So. So you can have whale. So that's a huge thing. So if we look right here, let's, you know, and if we think about it from a community standpoint and you know, keep this tight, but it's kind of exactly what we've been talking about a lot right here on the chain talking about. The XRPL gets into real participation, real governance, real ecosystem growth. And if we look here, submitting proposals is kind of what it's all about, right? So again, doesn't mean they're all going to be voted in. You need a certain consensus. You need enough people to vote for it. But we're not talking about really theory here. This is actual usage. And you can see the blog post that was put up at the end of February from Ripple, that they're kind of decentralized in the way they think about this funding. We're going to talk about. They spent a lot of money in the ecosystem itself. And so when we think about it like that, Jeff, it's a huge sort of a deal there to finally hit this huge milestone. It's exciting and it'll be happy to see where this ends up.
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Man. I'm excited about the milestone and as you know, I've written a proposal and I'm going to be submitting it. I even wrote a song to go with a proposal and I think that's going to get it voted for. So, but now zooming out for a second because while that's happening at the community level, which is exciting, I love seeing community involvement like that. So something very different is happening at the institutional level. And this is actually the piece that most people are completely underestimating because we have to look at exactly what's happening in this ecosystem. Ripple just received an investment grade rating. This isn't crypto language. This is how traditional finance actually measures trust, stability, risk, all those really important things. For who? Oh, yeah, us, for Main street. And now Ripple is being viewed through that lens. Chip, this is really impressive. There's just so much going on here that we got to dig into. Institutional grade. Big moves happening here, the Zalda, all these great things at the community level. I'm excited. Let's, let's see what we got with Ripple. What's going on?
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Yeah, so last September Ripple donated 15 million RL USD issued on XRPL to Axiom Opportunity Fund. And so here's what that's unlocked for small business owners across the US so 53.6 million in capital deployed. You had 905 loans to 895 unique borrowers. Yet $59,000 was the average loan size and then a little over a thousand jobs created and 1,631 retained. So as you mentioned the. And not only they are making a splash but again helping the ecosystem and other organizations. And then the story behind those numbers are right here. So we'll take a look. Boom. Zoomity zooms. And I love that little animation there. It's kind of cool, it's nice. But this little like little website they have here, unlocking opportunity together, empowering the Axiom Opportunity Fund, better known as aof to scale what it does best to deliver affordable capital, trusted advising and personalized learning opportunities. Underserved small business owners. This is it. You know a lot of people always think, they think well you know they hear the mega corporations, you know if you're in the U.S. you heard about the Nvidias of the world or the Apple and Microsoft and these kind of companies. But the, but the real juice is Jeff is the small companies, the little mom and pop shops and what we're going to find very soon that's already happening. We saw, Jeff and I were talking yesterday about an article where a guy built a GLP company in one year, made $340 million and he's a one, well he's, he was a one person company but he didn't hire his brother. They're two person company. Everything's done through AI. All the customer support, all the, the voice agents are all, you know, all the marketing, everything is done completely. So what we're going to start seeing is, we're going to start seeing the. And Sam Altman came out and said the very first solopreneur billion dollar company. This guy's on track to do over a billion dollars and he's basically a solo entrepreneur. And this is where the real thing is. So the, this is what makes the world go around. It's the small businesses sometimes get shafted. It's good that Ripple's looking after because they're actually making a dent and supporting jobs, you know, economic output. If more companies took this approach would be a better ecosystem for all. Because we found out yesterday that Oracle got rid of 3330000 mostly programmers. So they remember Jeff, they said just code Learn to code.
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No one's going to replace you.
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Don't worry. If you learn to code, you're going to be safe forever. Meanwhile, the people that went into the trades, like the plumbers, electricians, they're safe until the robots get good enough and they think it's 10 years away. That's a lie. I will tell you it's closer. It's three to five because. And the plumbers will be the first ones, electricians will be a little bit more difficult to replace. But guess what? They don't get tired. I mean they might need a battery boost, but learning how to code is everything. It's what I've been setting my sights on and what I spent a lot of time with Claude code and working on ideas that I've had and big building bigger ideas because this is what it's going to be about. So you better, you better get a handle on AI with it or your AI is going to get a handle on you and it's not going to be pretty. Where the 30,000x coders, what do they do?
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That's the rip. That's the ripple effect, ripple effect of technology. I mean here we're talking about ripple, effective investment, ripple effect of technology. Chip the one thing I see here too, and, and people seem to miss this point. But it's not about the speculation of little instances throughout the course of the growth of whether the xrpl, the building layers on it, what ripple did or didn't do in kind of a micro shot. You know, but the, the concept is, you know, we, we see the same commentary over and over that hey, there is good news, but the price of XRP is static or the lawsuit was won. But the price of XRP is still static. You know, we don't see the big changes within the price because that would make it a speculative, purely speculative asset. You know, if we see big, because then if we have good news, you have big ups and if you have bad news, you would have big downs. It's relatively consistent when it, it kind of hits its numbers and it's also trends with where Bitcoin is. Bitcoin is trending because of the global positioning and so there's all the other factors that go along with it. But as this space is becoming more galvanized and what we're seeing is steady growth. So now XRP is consistent in that 136 to 151 50ish range. It, it fluctuates in that range and it's always been this way. Right. If you go back, go back to 2017, go back before then, you'll always see it hits its zone, it moves up and down within that zone and it doesn't drop really low, doesn't come up really high and then once it hits its next gap, you know, then it moves within that space. But the big component of it right now is that it's tracking Bitcoin. The development on it is going to take time, you know and we're still there now with AI and stablecoin and who knows where the crypto space is going to be in the next couple years because the, the agentic growth is going to require more streamlined payment protocol and, and more streamlined payment systems and easier to track. That's where the, the blockchain is, is so critical at this point. We're going to see, I believe with, with all the AI growth there has to be more utility of stablecoin but there's going to be other purpose within crypto that's going to be built into AI as well because the AIs are going to have to pay each other to complete tasks. So there's just, there's a lot of variable that's going on with it. We have to look at the core where chip, where does this bring us? Like, you know, and what is it, how is it going to be relevant outside of being purely speculative? We have to see where we're going.
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It's amazing and it's really, truly amazing. And it's like, you know, I've even seen some Bitcoin maxis really start chatting about xrp. I'm starting to see people you don't normally see talking about xrp. I find that to be really interesting. A lot of people, I mean kind of piling in the space, you think oh it's not, you know, doing well, there's the haters out there. But you know, right now what's, what's being put in the infrastructure is huge because I expect that price to, to get affected and blow past the all time high, maybe double or triple it. It's going to happen. It's just a matter of time. Right? This is also in from Ripple Global credit rating. Kroll has assigned Ripple prime an investment grade issuer rating from the Better Business Bureau reflecting the financial strength, business expansion and discipline execution of our growing prime brokerage platform. Also good news. Built at the intersection of traditional and digital asset capabilities, Ripple prime is meeting the demand for frustrated, trusted, well capitalized prime brokerage services. With this rating, the market's taking notice and of course they are. So there's a whole thing on the, on the breakdown of the credit rating, credit ratings, everything. Especially when you, if you're New York City and your Moody's about the down rate you're creating. It's not credit. It's not a good thing, Jeff. It's, it's very bad in all accounts. Take then. This is Garlinghouse here. Garlinghouse made a comment on that. He said clear. This is clear. Validation of Ripple prime strength. The reliability intact with today's investment grade issuer rating from, from Kroll. Momentum builds when markets recognize those things. What a statement this is, Jeff. Momentum builds when markets recognize these things. Right? This is huge. It's a, it is a hat tip moment to what's going on there. You know, April Fools, I saw like, I got people tagged me and stuff. They're like, I can't believe this. Because one of the ones that AOL did was, and I got tagged and it said, oh my God, I can't believe this was that. That Trump was going to get rid of cash and that you had to use the Trump coin or Bitcoin. And I was like, this is. So I go, if you just read the teddy, you know it's right. You like start reading down the thing. And I, so I had to go read to the end. I scrolled immediately to the end and said, this is an April Fool's prank. And I said, great. So I posted that on the Internet. But there was some weird stuff going on also. Like this one here, this is, this is even Cyr. He's the, he's the founder of, of Avalanche. And he had to take a dig at Ripple. He said, banks are choosing Ripple. He said, april Fools, obviously they're using Avalanche. And Brad Garlinghouse responded, glad to know we're living rent free in your head. You gotta love that. It's a great, great statement to say it's like banks. Like, if you're another CEO and you're talking about Ripple, you're chasing, you're not, you're, you're, you're chasing them. You're following them. You're not a leader. Does anybody think the banks are using Avalanche?
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Jeff, seriously, Banks are definitely not using Avalanche.
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They're not using Avalanche. And Dennis, next week there'll be a
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news article, banks using Avalanche, probably.
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I doubt it. Dennis angel, he's a software engineer at XRPL Labs. Yeah, take this one here. But he put out a really cool post here. I was like, I really like this post here. Ahead, take this one.
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This is Dennis Angel. Look at that. I've never been more excited for the XRP ledger core development than I am now. And it has nothing to do with new features or even AI right now. The XRPL core developers have been hard at work rebuilding the fundamentals of the repository. That's interesting. It's tedious work and it's painful to endure, but once it's over, we will have a much better experience. Here are some of the things that we're working on now. Let's go through one by one some of the things they're expanding on telemetry, enterprise reporting metrics, real time logging. In the past, if there was an issue, we would have to request logs from validators. Now we can build a full command center for the XRPL and monitor the UNL like an enterprise. This is, that's, that's next level and we're starting to see where the missing components were to make it more streamlined for Main street adoption. Right. And so if they're not able to monitor metrics and see the real time logging and really the enterprise reporting, if you want more involved in this is really exciting. The nomenclature. I really like this alignment because as a developer in open source we tend to have all our own ideas about the name of variable or function. This ends up getting out of hand really fast. You getting everyone on the same page here makes the development cycle so much more efficient. You e. You would have thought this stuff would have already been done at this point especially.
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But we've reached, yeah, enterprise level reporting, you expect that. But you know, the good news is we're starting to see it happen now. But it, but it takes a team of people. It takes a community of people and devs and stuff to pull together, identify what's missing. And I like the fact that he's like, I'm excited and doesn't have to do with AI or new features. It's actually what's happening behind the scenes.
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Behind the scenes and this is the behind the scenes is the infrastructure. This is what's holding it all together. Without this, it all falls apart. So type safety. Surprisingly, there are areas that are not type safe. Adding this will help developers find bugs before the application even compiles. It also future proofs the repository, it's necessary and we're adding it so that, you know, timing. There's no time like the present to get all this done. The refactor. While this one might have some mixed opinions, I really do believe that this will help core developers. I've Seen some of the early results and I'm very excited. Organization, organization, organization man, again without that. This, this is really, this is back end dev stuff that most people don't get, you know, any, you know, purview to. And so it's really interesting. But this is the logging. The goal here is to synergize the logging. The logs are vastly different from one file to the next. Once this is cleaned up, our telemetry can be ingested into tools that allow us to search and filter logs, speeding up debug time for developers and network triage. Now it's amazing because here we are, this is all functioning in a blockchain type environment that is supposed to be easy to track, trace, record and all of that. And then you look at the back end and they're talking about well we got to make, we got to make this clean for the telemetry, for the data, for the logging, for the bug, you know, debugging and, and making sure that they're tracking all of the information you would hope that would be recorded someplace. And now they're, they're building out the back end so, or expanding on it anyways. Documentation. This effort hasn't started yet because the refactor is still being done. But it will be the last piece of puzzle and when finished it will give developers all the tools they need to understand the code. It will also allow new developers to under to better understand the code without having to schedule a call with our senior engineers. Thank you to all the XRPL Ripple core developers for all of your contributions. Man, that's beautiful. Man, that's impressive. Who else is doing something like that? Any of these others out there? You know?
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No. It's good to see this kind of buzz around, especially around the back end type stuff that's happening. And again a lot of it too is not stuff we deal with on a day to day basis. But it only sets the groundwork for what's about to happen. Mark Smithson says to be rich you only need 8 million XRP. That's it. That's right, that's all you need. Charles says Avalanche is the answer. Hollywood says Chris 20x20k extra 20,000 xrp will be life changing. Chris chimes in with yeah, be very careful with flair. Only put a small fraction in there. I suggest a bunch of people talking back and forth. Laurel says Scotiabank in the Bahamas made a post yesterday allowing USD exchange from ATMs. Big change before we had to sign paperwork to exchange money at the bank. Exchange from an atm. Wow.
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That is interesting.
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That is pretty good. I know you. So you're in the Bahamas. So you off the coast of the Florida there. You could drive there in like an hour. That's how close it is if you could. But you have to take if you could. Like I always. Well you get to Cuba from Key west. It's only 90 miles away because they're an hour and a half where you drive. Jeff, you get there in about an hour and five minutes.
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Get there quick.
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Jeff. Jeff's a heavy. Got a heavy driven with Jeff many times a pretty heavy hammer there. And then this From Devon, Steve UK BoE is on about stable coins not allowed in cold wallets and only 20000 allowed. They don't want to make a run on the pound. The businesses allowed 10 million yet. We want to be a world hub. Yeah there's so much restrictions going on with you know this is what happens. Well look what's happening in the US The I mean, you know, I mean what do we have going on here? It's like the big fight. The only thing big fight about this, this bill passing, this the Clarity act is the banks don't want you. They're worried about outflows because they make money on your money and they how they're going to make money on your money. They don't want you to make money on your money but they want to make continue making money in your money. And so that still, you know tends to be somewhat of an issue moving forward. And it's always the big institution, the legacy people always cry the hardest, right? They cry, they cry, they cry. Guess what? At the end it's not going to. And then on Dennis Angels post Luke Judges chimed in. He's over there in the. What is he called? He's over there in the. I think he's in the Dubai or something like that. But he runs over there and that section of the world and he mentioned that. Glad someone external seeing the efforts here. There's a lot of focus across the ecosystem to modernize the xrpl and I expect there to be a period of meaningful consolidation among L1s this cycle. And I think we'll see foundations silently quit due to running out of tokens. Interesting ripple building for a separate profit business and being a strong contributor to and steward of the XRP ledger puts the ecosystem to long term structural advantage. And that's kind of like what you were talking about. So it's nice that he's actually you know recognizing the efforts of what's happening that it's external. It's happening again. This is what happens when you've got a really tight community. You know, Ripple's not going to do all the heavy lift, the rift. Ripple has to focus on what their business is all about. And then this something that Chacha put out there, he said the XRP exchange and spot ts, all the stats you need. And he posted this and I've never seen this before. It's. It's on render.com. but the specific one right here. But you can see it looks like something he put up with all these XRP insights here. And this is really nice. It's something we probably should look at pretty often. We probably should bookmark this and like look it up. But you know, talking about, you know, how much XRPs there's 16 billion XRP on exchanges. Exchange value is $21 billion in XRP. He has a lot of the ETF trading, EFTF holdings, the exchange. This is like such a great site dashboard to see, you know, the Top XRP Top 10 Rich List. And this is something that used to be managed but then remember a couple years ago it wasn't managed anymore. But man, we used to have this rich list to see kind of like what these wallet balances look like. And if you look at, you know, we don't, I don't know whose wallets these are, but this is on bit of the thumb. Okay, okay, we do know this is bit thumb. This is binance uphold has 1.5 billion upbit. This one's an unknown. Someone has $1.42 billion. Ripple's got 1.3. Another ripple wallet, another unknown one is 700. But it's just some really good stats here to see on this rich list to see the top 25 holders and the wallets. You can see Chris Larson's wallets here. That one is 500 million, you know, 500 million. And there's another 500 million right there. It's crazy, right, to see all this stuff, but it's a really cool dashboard.
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See these numbers.
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Got some good stuff in here about news, but it's really cool, man. It looks like something that was built. Here's some, here's some live ledger data here. You know, obviously you could always see the price, but the ledger index, all this great useful stuff and, and then some social stuff too on top of it. So very, very cool little thing. And it looks like it's something he put together. Cha Cha, whatever. I don't know. I don't know. I just came across this One I thought it was really good. Here's the XRP exchange. What's this one here? Here we go. There we go. The holdings tracker. So there you go. There's another one right there.
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Interesting.
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This is fetching the data right now. But join the XRP army. Follow Cha Cha Kobe for er. It's a lot. Just compiling it, going out there, grabbing it. There you go. Look at how nice. Look how sharp this dashboard is, man.
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A lot of information, a lot of data.
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It's great to see it all in one place, which I like because, you know, if you look for ETF stuff, you want to see what's going on the ETFs. Here's the market share up it. Look it up and crushing everybody, dude. Well you know that up it is 40.7% of market share. Then the next one is bit Hub. I'll just make that a little bit bigger there. And you got bit Hub and you got uphold with 12. I'm surprised I didn't know a bit well I, I. This one makes sense to me but up it I did not know up it was such a market crusher. 40 of the market. And then if you start looking down as we get down, you know, all the usual suspects. The eToros crypto.coms bitru is only like not even 0.9% at one time. They that pretty much was their exchange SBI 0.5% but amazing to see that different market share, man. And then you can see the market concentration right there. I also like if you wanted to crush this data, you could also export it as a CSV download as a JSON or you could actually download a report. So it's good stuff, man. I'm definitely gonna have to we put
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into AI and have AI interpret it for us.
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I have to what I want to do, I want to bookmark this. Let me bookmark artists because, you know, I'll be looking for this next week and we like want to look at it again, you know.
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Hey, Sean Smith. Haven't. Haven't been on a live for a while. So it's good to have you here.
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Nice.
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Appreciate it. Right. Fundamentals and extra B never been better. But people still focus on the price. That's it. It's all about the price, all about the speculation. That's what Devon said. Yes. Sometimes we can. Sometimes we can be forgiven. Ripple of great news. That's right.
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Well, this is why I say you
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got to be here.
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That's why I harp on Zao Dao so much because Zodao is the first DAO for the xrpl. And it only token, it has xrp. All the other ones made mistakes. You know, there was. There were ETH dollars that had 1 million, 2 million members and they had a token. So the token would tank. DA would tank. Right. So this is something that Santiago Velez and Fabio Marzella, the two sort of co founders of that and the directors right now put, put that into play and I'll go right in here and show you from my standpoint here, you can see.
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There you go.
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Look at this. You can see that their boom hit a thousand members. There's a Treasury balance right there. And then here are some of the proposals you can see already.
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Is your proposal up there yet?
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My proposal's in here, Jeff. My proposal is right here. Weekly Proposal Notification System.
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Look at that.
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There it is right there. And if you want to read, we're
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gonna love my proposal. It's the best one.
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Jeff, yours really is the best. You gotta put. Jeff says, so well written. I was good after I read. I felt, I felt shame. I felt pure shame after I read Jeff's. I was like, okay, I love the way this is written. It makes so much sense. And then you had us, of course, Jeff made a song to go with it. I guarantee there's no. None of these have a song with it. Look at these grants. So this is. We just. The see Zodao just hit a thousand members on Friday yesterday or like late Thursday. Late Thursday. So we're talking about less than 24 hours ago establishing a validator support grant framework. Establishing validator support. That was twice. That's Fabios Multi Asset Governance Model XRP Index RL US Voting. This is a proposal about also if you, you know, because right now if you hold XRP in the wallet, you have you, you can, you know, it's 1 to 1, 1 XRP, 1 vote, but it's capped at 0.01 depending on, you know, who's a whale in there. But this proposal says, well, let's use our USD and we'll do the equivalent of. Because RL USD is always $1, but we'll do the equivalent of what it means in xrp, what it translates to. And that would be your percentage of vote. That's kind of what this one is. So I kind of read through them. I like Fabios. To the Establish a Validator Support Grant Framework. That's a good one. Let's see this one here. The ZAO Dao Principles of Value and Conduct. I know that Santiago put This one out just talks about foundational principles, you know, how you guide operations, all the decision making type stuff, all the interactions. It's kind of like if you go into a YouTube channel, hey, you agree to not do this, play nice, do all that. It's kind of what that is. I see that being an easy yes right there.
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And you have one format. You upload it as a PDF, walk everybody through, quickly submit a proposal.
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So right here what you do is you, you hit Create proposal and this is what it looks like. So you got a category where you can. And there's, there's a, there's a, there's a tutorial going out I think today about how to do this. But what I'll walk you through. So you pick a category, whether it's community, whether it's a development and educational, governance, grants, infrastructure, investments, marketing partnerships, R D security, Treasury. But let's just say in this case, pick community. You put your title in here like this, you add a description. This should be like the summary, like so someone can read this and kind of get an idea of what is your, what's your, you know, your proposal about, about governance.
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And that's it.
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Xrpl, whatever. You'll probably write something or more hit the continue button here. The voting period will be for seven days. You go ahead and choose your. Go ahead and upload the PDF. This is set at seven days, which means seven days. People have a chance to look at it and read it and then go ahead and make a vote on it. And then what you do is based on. There can only be one proposal per day. So if you come in here and you look at what this next step looks like, you know, like the next available one. Jeff and I hope you get yours in there, but this is the 9th
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of April right now it's going to be up there 9th of April, unless someone preempts me.
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Yeah, go ahead and throw yours up there, man. Go throw it up there. And we'll, we should probably listen to that song too. That's a banger of a song I downloaded.
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So we can, so we can play the video.
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That's awesome. So you have this, the, the date and then once you, once this populates, it'll. You'll see what the closing date is based on the seven days. Boom. Create proposal. You're done. Your proposal is uploaded and it slotted for that day. And, and there's only one proposal per day. So if you guys have a proposal, you want to put it up there, what does it look like? Well, A lot of the initial ones are just, they're not money based. There will be a, there will be a template of you're looking for money. There is a template PDF that you'd be able to fill out. I know it's in the works right now, but and, and a little kind of guide and how you'd put that together, but all the pieces. Because the whole idea of the Zodao is that you join it. We're all together in this thing, in this out and we want to make sure that the treasury benefits, right, because the treasury benefits and it's making money. At some point in the future you could vote. Do you want to do a distribution? So it takes a piece of this company and a piece of this company and it funds different things. Then you think of the Zodao growing and putting money back into the Treasury. So you want to talk about how that's going to. And then there's milestones too, right? If you're requesting 100 grand, you're not going to get 100 grand out of the, out of the, out of the, you know, off the, off the top you'll be like, you know, broken down to probably three, four milestones. Hit that milestone, get the next tranche of money. Hit that milestone, get the next tranche. But it's super exciting to see. The other cool thing I want to talk about too is, is if you go into the settings right here, there's a referral program. So for example, I'll show this works. I got one. I was testing it to see if it worked. But if I click, click on this and the referral program and I put this down here into the chat, you guys click on that when you sign up. You. Once you onboard 10 people, you get the equivalent of $10 in XRP. So you can, there's a finance. So if you got a community and you want to onboard a bunch of people and you share it with other people. So what happens is you share your Niegr code for every five new members who complete, complete their membership using your Referral, you earn $5 in XRP. So you only have to onboard five people. You get five bucks extra piece. So share that link, you know, go ahead and join it and do all that stuff. So there you go. And yeah, it's pretty cool.
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I mean it's really, it's impressive. Big shout out to those guys for pulling all that together. Their proposals entering into a new phase. This is real community action. You know, everybody getting together and being able to participate in you in A program utility with xrpl, which is exciting. That's what it's all about. Dazzle Fort over here. Big up to. He's new to the channel, currently stacking xrp hbar, zbag. Happy, happy Easter to you and everybody who is tuning in. And as also hit the, the like button. So if you're brand new here, make sure you do hit that like button and also subscribe. So we do have that. Nice.
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Yeah, we appreciate all the new folks coming in here and all the, all the praise they've been heaping on us. Come on, guys. We're very, we're very honored by, you know, the kind words that have been, you know, expressed and it's good to see people coming in here and, and giving their, you know, their opinions. I, I love it. I love reading the comments. The comments have been really fun lately to read. Usually they're usually. Sometimes they can be a little bit mean. We like to read the mean ones here. They're fun too, but. And we like to have a little bit of fun with them, but they've been really glowing and really enjoying that. So guys, big ups and I would like to see. Everybody here should be on the Zao Dao. It's a community. You have a voice. You can say what happens in the XRPL system. This is one voice. Your voice matters and you don't, you don't have to vote. But it's the equivalent of $10 paid in XRP.
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That's it.
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And that could change with just proposal. But I'm just saying it's $10 XRP. The equivalent of XRP. Someone thought it was 10 XRP. Like what happens if XRP goes to $100? I'm like, well then it's like, you know, point 10, 1% of the, you know, point 10 of the, you know, 10 of the. Of XRP. So again, it's $10 USD, but paid in XRP.
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Because yeah, what is better coffee? Well, five bucks for a latte. Half of that feed some hipsters avocado toast habit. Quit financing coffee fads you don't need.
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He's.
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Give him his coffee. You know what I mean? So there it is right there. Beautiful. Beautiful. Gots to love it, man.
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That's it.
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Beautiful.
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All right, what's next? Where. Where are we going next?
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Let's see. Let's go ahead. And we're gonna go and we're gonna do our little put a different hat on right now, Jeff. We're gonna go into our geopolitics section of this, and something that just happened in the House of Representatives here in the US they just crushed it. Automatic deportation for illegals caught on welfare Fraud was passed 231 to 186, which is kind of sad, Jeff. 186 Democrat frauds voted to keep your money funding the invasion. So this is it. Should have been. Shouldn't have been anyone voting against this. If you are. If you are illegal and you're caught with welfare fraud, you're instantly deported. Now, why would you vote against that unless it's your voter base? But parasites out. America first is winning. Democrats cannot win without paying off illegal invaders. And they really do care more about these illegals, Jeff.
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They do. It's unfortunate, but true. And, you know, I think that, you know, definitely exemplifies, you know, where the. Their mindset is. What they're looking to do, the cheating, the corruption, you know. So we have to be very diligent. I can't wait. Someone's going to throw out a proposal, you know, or put a, put a bill out on the floor that's going to move voting onto the blockchain. And it's so critical. One person, one vote. There's some things that are happening right now to help protect the vote. Getting rid of the mail in ballots, making sure we protect the absentee ballot. There has to be, you know, a faster move in that direction and so just a matter of time. But I see it coming where voting is going to be in, in and around blockchain. We've got to build in a security protocol. One person, one vote. No more socialists, no more communism. Time to do away with all that stuff.
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So yeah, I saw. This is great too. Love dazzle for it just subbed. Appreciate that man. You football fan. I love that too. Fantastic.
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That menu. That man. That is menu. Yep.
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Menu fan. Football fan in the house. Okay, good. I like that when people are always have their, their teams rocking and their, and their profiles too. We got some stuff on the UK here because we do geopolitics. We don't just cover the U.S. we cover a lot of different stuff. But you know, there's so much fraud in the U.S. i think Trump said something like, what was his statement on fraud? He said something like 25, 30 plus fraud in the U.S. yeah, it's quite a bit man. It's quite a. This right here, look at this here. This is especially California. So here's, listen to this.
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Where billions of California tax dollars intended to solve homelessness ended up. California has spread spent more than $24 billion over the last five years with little to no progress in solving, solving our homelessness epidemic. California state officials failed to provide meaningful oversight over the individuals who received most of these funds and they had little to no answers to the public's demand for accountability. Well, that accountability starts today. Today we are announcing significant developments into our investigation. We are making public two criminal cases relating to two separate real estate developers who are involved in misappropriating millions of state funds intended to combat homelessness. This morning federal agents arrested Cody Holmes, a 31 year old Beverly Hills resident and the former CFO of, of Shangri La Industries, a downtown LA based developer of affordable housing for defrauding the Home Key program that is administered by the state of California. The program awarded grant money which included federal tax dollars for specific projects to convert motels into housing for the homeless and to operate the units. By April of 2022, Shawn Shangri La Industries, where Holmes was the CFO, had co applied with multiple California cities to convert numerous properties in California, including a location in Thousand Oaks. The state asked for proof that the company had the financial capacity to build all the projects. In response, Holmes and Shangri La knowingly submitted fake, fake bank statements which claimed to show that developer had about $160 million on deposit. Not only were the bank statements fake, our investigation shows that Shangri La and its affiliates had nowhere near the amount of.
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This is sickening. I can't even listen to it anymore, Jeff. It's just insanely bizarre that. The funny thing is homelessness has grown 20 some billion. 20, was it 20, was it $25 billion? $25 billion for homelessness. You get. You basically just get everybody a place you could pay for. You could pay for rents for 10 years for these people. And homelessness has grown. It's grown in. In California. So it's truly shocking, man.
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Right? So, hey, so Dazzle is wondering if we're an XRP channel or multi coin. We like to talk about different assets. You know, we're not. We're not super centric to one asset. We'll talk about bitcoin. We like talking about other projects within the xrpl, but we definitely don't just focus on xrp. XRP is so the xrpl, but we
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talk about it a lot because it's exciting to talk about. But. But Jeff and I are not maxis in any, you know, I mean, I bought my first Bitcoin in 2013. I was telling somebody last night because they were saying, like, what this? They. I don't know. We were having a conversation. I said, we're talking about time travel. I said, okay, if you're gonna time travel, there's one thing you just have to know. Go back to 2009 and buy as much bitcoin as you can buy. Okay? It's like, just buy a ton. I would go back and leave myself notes like, like, I would go back and leave myself notes. Buy bitcoin. Shut up. Buy it now. Yeah, you like, clean up. You're like, ah, let's see, I'll get 10,000. I don't know what this is. I'll just hang on to it for a little bit. But don't do what I did. Don't get into it at 200 and sell it at 800 something, man. I'm 4x, man. I'm crushing. Was a good crush for 4x, but it could have been 100x. I mean, God, it was like a. Pretty sad.
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But the other, if you go back and you do that, you have to not just buy, but then you have to, you have to hold it and protect, and protect your hardware. Don't, don't let it go into a garbage dump. Don't let it, don't protect it with codes that you're probably going to lose and try to create some redundancy to it. So if you have a, any type of backup you can create.
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Yeah, any type of ones there. It's, you can kind of put it in it.
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I don't think this is really going to happen. Probably not time traveling anytime soon, but in case you did, make sure you bring a list with you of things that you have to do.
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Oh, that would be the easiest one to capitalize on in your life, but you know, to hold for a little bit. But you know, Jeff, it's not too often that I agree with Jamie Dimon, like what he says. Like, I don't really necessarily especially anything he said about crypto. But I kind of found this clip and I was like, who is this imposter? Who is this guy? But listen to this and tell me what you think of what he has to say here about taxes.
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Anyone? Okay. And you guys in the room be Democrats, Republicans, who thinks the spending, that sending another trillion dollars to Washington D.C. will actually improve anything. So when you say raise taxes, if you said raise taxes and directly give it to the people need it, do it.
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No
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running out of time.
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All these interest groups, you know, and they give it to their friends and all that. And which is why you guys in the room, Democrats, you know how she
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said, oh, we're, we're running out of time. We're running, look at the, look. Oh, she says he's going to get political. World Economic Forum. Yeah, no, he's talking about taxes. I hope people don't think about this about their own countries. Oh gosh, look at the time we're running out of. And he doesn't shut up. He just keeps going because, you know, the World Economic Forum, that's the, that's all they want. They want, they get. They're the recipients of all those taxes. That.
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And which is why, which is why the people are considered a swamp. It's kind of a swamp. You know, there's 17,000 lobbying groups, but bank companies are guilty too.
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See the look on the face, Jeff? She's like, oh God, wait a minute,
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did he go, He Just went full mega.
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She's so mad. She's like, oh God, look at the time she rolls her eyes.
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They're just fighting for their one self interest as opposed to what's good for my country. But you know, that's what happens in Congress. Congress, you know, and you see these, how these bills get spent, like the CHIPS act was a good idea until, you know, it had to be unions, place, child care, diapers, you know, what the hell are we doing? And then, and we do it over and over and then we, then it fails and then we spend more money because the problem is we didn't spend enough money.
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So you're a man with, with many strong opinions in the last few minutes. A man with many strong opinions. Shut your mouth, you little witch. She's like, you're a man with many strong opinions. It's crazy, isn't it?
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Revolution is what I call it. That's right.
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Yeah, you're, you're a man with many strong opinions. Oh, that's a funny thing to say. This one here. I'm gonna play this little clip from Ron DeSantis and I'll tell you what John Deaton said about it, who's running for Congress and also was a hero for the XRP community and the crypto community at large just because of his involvement in basically helping ripple, you know, define XRP or the government defined. XRP is not a security. But look at this little thing. There was just a little clip and then I'm going to play what, what he had to say about it. But this is just one little clip from DeSantis and I'm just sick of seeing him.
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I know he says he's going to retire. Someone needs to grab that little elf and chuck him across the Potomac.
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He's talking about a Democrat. I'm not sure which one. But what's funny about that was that John Deaton chimed in on this post that someone had thrown up there and they had to say he, this is what he had to say. He said, he said, this is an absolute no brainer. Governor Ron DeSantis would be an outstanding Attorney General because you know, Pam Bondi's out and Publius, which is a great accountant and Axe to go follow said new support continues to grow for Ron DeSantis to take over as Attorney General for the ousted Pam Bondi and acting AG Todd Blanche and this acting AG guys a little bit, a little bit on the left hand rhino side of the, of the building. So I don't think that's a good thing. And then the new. The new. What do you call it? Deputy AG is another lefty loser. I don't know how these lefties get nominated positions. That's the one thing I can criticize Trump as being really weak on, is he puts rhinos in the key thing, cabinet positions, and they just fail on the real people who should be running them.
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It definitely takes bad advice.
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You should have Laura Loomer doing all the vetting because she vetted all these guys, and you'd never know about it, that they're such losers until you would actually be able to sort of see a little more what's going on.
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Yeah.
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And unfortunately, Jeff, you know, if we. If we kind of like move on to. Let's move on to. I want to talk a little bit about this woman. I saw this video about gun control, and I thought this was so kind of strong. When you hear this woman's story, it's pretty. It's pretty heart wrenching. But it says a lot when cities try to institute some form of gun control. And the second, you know, amendment says shall not be infringed means that's it. You have the right. You don't need a permit, you don't need this. You don't. You don't need anything. And you cannot infringe against somebody, you know, having weapons or protecting themselves because ultimately we're protecting against tyranny. That's why. I know. That's why the government's still in check right here.
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Chuck Schumer and the entire Democrats worst nightmare as she completely dispels and fights
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back against one of their main talking points.
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You've got to check this out.
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In 1991, my parents and I went to have lunch at a local cafeteria with a friend of mine that was managing the. The cafeteria that day. We'd finished eating when all of a sudden this guy drove a pickup truck through the floor to ceiling window. It came crashing in and ended up maybe 15ft from me. Of course, we thought it was an accident, and I rose up and began to go help the people that he had knocked over. But then we heard gunshots and my father and I immediately got down on the floor. We turned the table up in front of us. My mom got down behind us, and the shooting continued. Now, now at that time in 91, you know, we weren't seeing these mass shootings that we're seeing now. So I was waiting for him to say something like, all right, everybody put your wallets up on the table. Or, you know, I thought maybe it was a Hit. Maybe there was somebody important in there. But the shooting continued. I'm going to tell you, it took a good 45 seconds, which is an eternity to realize that the guy was simply going to walk around, take aim, pull the trigger, go to the next person, take aim, pull the trigger. He was executing people. When I did realize that, I thought, I've got him, I've got this guy. I reached for my purse that was on the floor next to me, realized I had a perfect place to prop my arm. He was up. Everybody else in the restaurant was down. And then I realized that a few months earlier, I had made the stupidest decision of my life. I begun leaving my gun out in my car because I did what most normal people would do. I wanted to be a law abiding citizen. I didn't want to get get caught with a gun and maybe lose my license to practice. I remember looking around and thinking, well, great, what do I do now? Throw a salt shaker at him? At that point, my dad took my attention and he started to raise up. He said, I've got to do something, I've got to do something. He's going to kill everybody in here. And I tried to hold him down by the shirt collar, but when he saw what he thought was a chance, he went at the guy. You have to understand, though, a man with a gun in a corner, crowded room has complete control. My dad covered maybe half the distance and the guy just turned and shot him in the chest. My dad went down in the aisle maybe seven or eight feet from me, and he was still alive and still conscious. But as dreadful as this may sound, I saw the wound and I basically rode him off at that point. The good news is that it made the gunman change directions slightly. Instead of coming directly toward me, he went off to my left. And at that point, somebody way at the back of the restaurant broke out another window. And I remember hearing that crash and thinking, my God, here comes another one. But instead I saw people getting out that way. So I looked up over the top of the table. When the gunman had his back to me, I stood up, I grabbed my mother by the shirt collar. I said, come on, come on, we gotta run, we gotta get out of here. And my feet grew wings. I made it out that back window, ran into my manager friend that was coming out a side door, and he said, thank God you're all right. And I said, yeah, but Dad's been hit and, and it's really bad. And I turned to say something to my mother and Realized that she hadn't followed me out. Now to wrap the story up, the police officers, several of them were patients of mine, told me a few days later they filled in the gaps. They said that they were actually one building away in a conference and in an odd twist of gun control fate, the hotel where they were having their conference, the manager there didn't want want them to be wearing their guns and potentially offending any of her clients or customers. So she had asked them to leave their guns in their cars. So precious minutes were lost while they retrieved their guns from their locked cars. They said that when they got over there and worked their way in through the broken window behind the pickup truck, they didn't know who the gunman was. There were bodies everywhere. But they said they did see a woman out in the aisle on her knees cradling a mortally wounded man. They said they watched as some 30 something year old man walked up to her. They said she looked up at him, he put a gun to her head, she looked down at her husband and he pulled the trigger. That's how they knew who the gunman was. They said all they had to do was fire a shot into the ceiling and the guy immediately rabbeted to a back bathroom alcove area. He exchanged a little gunfire with them and then put a bullet in his own head. 23 people were killed that day, including my parents. It didn't occur to me at the time, but mom wasn't going anywhere without dad. They had just had their 47th wedding anniversary. So you may think that I was angry at the guy that did it, but the truth is that's like being mad at a rabid dog. You don't be mad at a rabid dog. You take it behind the barn and you kill it. But you don't be mad at it. But I've got to tell you, I was mad as heck at my legislators because I honestly believe that they legislated me out of the right to protect myself and my family. And I would much rather be sitting in jail right now with a felony offense on my head and have my parents alive to know their grandchildren. With that, I thank you.
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Wow, that's a crazy story. You know it, it's gut wrenching. You know, you think about it and then you think about how, you know, the liberals, the left, want to make it more and more difficult for civilians, for citizens, for individuals, for people to protect themselves from harm and they immediately will pivot just like what just happened in Brooklyn. A eight month old baby was just shot by Two individuals and they tried to escape. Now the governor, the, the mayor of New York City gets out and who does he blame? Not the crime, not the criminal, but they immediately, the left immediately pivot to an anti gun platform. Now I believe in gun control. Gun control is making sure you carry your gun properly, making sure you use it when you need to use it and making sure when you're at the gun range you have control over where you're shooting and you practice and that's it. You know, and the thing is in most scenarios people, you know, we don't, people aren't rolling around, always armed. There's places I go, I'm always armed, no matter what. You know, you have to be. And it's a horrible state of affairs to know that there's places that I have to go to where I'm armed. My son's school. There's armed guards everywhere on the school campus and you know, there's good reason for it, there's justification to why it's needed. But it's a sad state of affairs that we do need that, that we have to be protected from the outside world. You know, and Chad says using both hands. Exactly. Now the debate is one eye open, two eyes open. But as long as you hit the target, doesn't matter as long as you hit the target. Practice, practice also that's, that's super important. You, you have to go to the gun range if you're going to carry a firearm, make sure you know how to use it, make sure you know what it's capable of. Make sure every aspect of it may it don't. Too many people go and buy guns and they carry guns. They, women put it in their purse, they never practice with it, never go to the gun range. A lot of people, they don't carry it loaded. You know, you have to think about all those different variables. It's, it's, it's, it's a, you know, the, the amount of trying to think of the word for it, but you know, it, it's, it's, it's kind of, you're, you're doing something to protect yourself in a situation. But if you're going to use it, you have to use it, but you better know how to use it. I guess that's, that's my point. And, and practice, practice, practice. You know, the, the worst part is, you know, people are, are using it incorrectly and then you know, you have injuries and, and things that happen when it's not needed, you know, because it's in someone's purse and then they have a bullet in the chamber and they go to pick it up and they pull the trigger and, and there you go, you know but a lot to that that that's just I get that video is gut wrenching horrible to think about the whole thing.
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Used to carry it in her purse and she didn't have it on the day she needed it.
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That's it.
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Jim D. Says I wish I never wasted my time using my GPO 15 years ago to mine bitcoin. I could have just bought it for a few dollars and Gaming Community 100 Chris says he wanted Desantis to win over Trump. Well, Jeff and I both voted for Desantis twice. Looks like Byron Donalds is cruising to be the nominee for the next governor. Byron Donalds to me will make a great president one day. He's, he's Trump Jr. In a lot of ways but he's just a guy is phenomenal. I love him. Jim D. Says not really worth the risk of concealed carry. If you use it legitimately, you're going to be illegal. Hell, for two plus years defending yourself from prison and hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal. I'll take the chance. I'm good with the chance there. I'll take the chance. The problem, the other problem is is most of people that live outside the US don't realize that almost 90% of gun violence and mass shootings happen and no gun zones. That's also a problem. Pete Hegseth just rectified that because US Bases, whether it was the army, the Navy, the Air Force, Marines, you couldn't carry on the base, which is the most ridiculous, ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. He's just changed that rule and repealed it and everybody should be carrying on a base. There's been shootings of bases where you have our normally what you have is armed service members are de armed. You have them on schools and since they changed, you know, teachers can carry inside of school districts. You have like, you know, schools that have, you know, private schools have a budget for security and they have armed guards. Like Jeff said, you have to have armed people in front of especially if there's a potential of the threat coming there. And there's been instances where the armed guards have handled things in schools. You never hear about it because they killed the guy or they, they found him before something really went, went down. And this is what you don't hear about that stuff. You just hear about the bad stuff. And the other thing that they don't tell you is those People who shoot are almost always in the, in a community where they're taking lots of drugs, lots of psychological drugs, and how do you think it's going to their brain? There's a lot of trans shooters, right? They're on just a myriad of, just different, you know, intake of drugs. You have a lot of stuff. And Desantis, what, what was disturbing to me about DeSantis was, and it made sense a lot later, DeSantis job wasn't to run for president. DeSantis job was to get the Rhino money. And he accomplished that beautifully. Him and Trump have always been friends. Him going after Trump, they needed somebody to go get the Rhino money and do nothing. And I'm talking about the Bush people, all those people in that sector. All that money flowed into him because they said, oh, we don't. We're never Trumpers. So all the money went to him and he didn't do much on the national stage. It wasn't a failure on his part. Initially I thought it was, but then I realized it's a brilliant move by Trump and DeSantis. THE Trump, right. DeSantis were great friends. They still are just huge supporters. But this is what happens when you're playing a bigger game. You make it look like, oh my gosh, he hates Trump. I can't believe it. All for the cameras. People, wake up and smell how it works. That's what you're going to get here. You're going to find out what really happening versus what you think is happening. Jeff looks like former Bills coach Sean McDermott with that beard. Look at that, just ready to start coaching the NFL. Start earning those 7, 8 million dollar paychecks. Jeff, I love it.
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Better believe it, man.
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You can earn those big checks. So let's go, let's transition to the
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UK here, bringing the Bills to the Super Bowl.
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Please do, please do. I, I would love nothing more than that. So it has been said that the King of England, who is just an absolute poor excuse for a human being, he. He announced, Jeff, that he's not, he's supposed to be the head of the, of the church over there in England. And he announced that he's not going to release an Easter message. But this guy, Godfrey Bloom just unloads on him. Here we go.
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Well, greetings, your majesty. I'm a dyed of the wall monarchist, as was my father, my father before him. We've held your mother's commission and your grandfather's commission in military service, and we listened patiently to your support for Islam through Ramadan. But I remind you, you are head of the Church of England, and that is a very critical role for you, which you don't seem to understand. And I'm not sure whether you're fully mentally well or not. If you're not, I wish you well. But it seems to me you have no real deep Christian faith and neither does your son. Presumably you had a hand of bringing him up. This is a very important constitutional role as a Christian. And it now seems you're not going to give an Easter message, which I think confirms what many of your subjects have believed for some time, that you have somehow embraced the Islam faith. And that's not a problem as far as I'm concerned. I'm a libertarian. You must embrace whatever faith you think appropriate. But not as king. Not as king. You must abdicate. And I would suggest similarly that your son must not take the throne because it seems to me you do not understand what your role seriously is. You're one of the richest men in the world and you have a reputation, I could possibly comment on it, of being one of the meanest. What I'm suggesting you is that you abdicate and get gone. Get thee gone. You are of no use to this country whatsoever. You have failed in every conceivable way on your relatively short period of time on the throne. In the name of God, go.
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B
That's about a strong message you're going to get over there in the uk. They. That's about. That's what they got, Godfrey. Well, expect. Expect a visit from the. From the local police, you know, by putting these messages out. But someone said he's a secret. It's not a secret, dude. There's no. There's no secret here. Okay, let's go back to 1993. Here's a bit from 1993. This is the. Before he was king and he was just a pathetic guy sucking on the teeth of mama. Here we go.
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G
Islam is part of our past and our present in all fields of human endeavor. It has helped to create modern Europe. It is part of our own inheritance, not a thing apart. Islam can teach us today a way of understanding and living in the world which Christianity itself is the poorer for. Having lost our judgment of Islam has been grossly distorted by taking the extremes to be the norm. That, ladies and gentlemen, is a serious mistake. It is like judging the quality of life in Britain by the existence.
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B
Imagine a man that never lifted a finger, never did a damn thing in his life, never contributed to society other than sitting around giving these stupid speeches about how it's oh, the radical part. My God, what a complete and absolute loser. It's funny because like even when I was younger I looked at this guy, I'm like this guy is going to be king one day. What an absolute mess.
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G
Child abuse, drug addiction.
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B
The extremes do exist I guess when you're a royal. I guess history isn't something you spend a lot of time on studying. Why bother? You're going to be rich, you're going to be famous and you don't have to lift a finger but apparently doesn't. Not a good student of history.
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G
It must be dealt with. But when used as a basis to judge.
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B
And this, this accent dud, this like it's so downtrod and he's like so speaking down to everybody, the way he
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G
talks, they lead to distortion and unfairness.
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B
Oh, distortion and unfairness. Here's another one.
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H
This.
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G
That is why the wisdom and learning offered by a sacred tradition like Islam masses. And if I may say so, why those who hold and strive to preserve their sacred traditions in different parts of the world have every reason to become more confident of their ground. The Islamic world is the custodian of one of the greatest treasuries of accumulated wisdom and spiritual knowledge available to humanity. It is both Islam's noble heritage and a priceless gift to the rest of the world. And yet so often that wisdom is.
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B
Now here we go. Something from 1993, something from something more recent, something. This guy's completely clueless man about how things work in life by the dominant
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G
drive towards Western materialism and the way
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B
he puts down other faiths when he says you may practice your faith in other parts of the world. Well, hate to tell you man, but England used to be a Christian nation. Sorry to throw that on you Mr. Head of the the church over there.
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G
Feeling that to be truly modern you have to ape the West. To counter that tendency, I've done what I can with my school of traditional arts to nurture traditional sacred craft skills, not least those of Islam. Because they keep alive a perspective that we sorely need even though short term fashion deems them to be irrelevant.
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B
Short term fashion?
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G
The geometry patterning that is taught at the school is the basis of the many craft.
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B
Shut up. Just go shut your mouth.
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A
So crazy you think about what a. What a pain. Now, now you know where, you know why you have such a problem with. With England right now. England has, has. It's been on a downward spiral for so long, you know, what is it going to take?
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B
It's considered conquer.
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A
Unless the people there. And we have some great people here. You know, I'm not going to lump every single person there into one general group, but overall, you know, it just seems that it's just very lackluster. People are. You know, there's not a lot of alpha males left on the stage in England, or at least they're sitting back. Maybe there's a silent majority like there was, you know, there was here. But, man, it's like they gotta grow up and, and figure this out, you know, because they've gotta just to make a determination today. Either you're taking back your country or you forfeited the country. Right now they're forfeiting and it's done. There's. There's no coming back. You know, the direction they're moving in. Spain is another one forfeited 20 of the population. It's done, it's over. There's no coming back for Spain. And, and the faster people acknowledge it, the better off maybe you'll be. But this is why NATO and much of Europe is becoming irrelevant to the United States is because you forfeited your countries to an Islamic takeover. And you're doing it through a multicultural approach. And it's so fake, it's so destructive, it's so dangerous. And then the people on the ground, the citizens are suffering, but yet there's no leadership. But the European mindset, the EU was purposefully structured in a way that would take away your national identity and your sovereignty. But the Europeans don't understand it. It just drives me crazy that they don't, that they didn't grasp the concept of what the EU was doing to them as individual countries. Removing their site. As soon as they remove their currency, they removed their national identity. As soon as they implemented the. The eu, it was destructive across the board throughout all of Europe. Made it easier to spend and move around, but it removed their national identity and then that was it. There's nothing left.
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B
Well, you can use it.
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A
It's a shame. What's that?
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B
They gave up their sovereignty willingly under the guise of, like, oh, you'll be able to try the biggest selling point. Well, you'll be able to travel from nation to nation, and it's going to be so much easier. And it'll be one currency. Even England was, you know, the UK was smart enough to say, we're not, we're not conflating the British pound, one of the most strongest currencies in the world, with your crappy euro. And everybody got like, so much flack. I'm like, they should have gone even further with that. But my God, I mean, that was one of the greatest decisions ever made. Jim D. Says UK is the only Christian nation where can. Catholics legally cannot be king, but a Muslim can. Okay, here's monkey business. Says King Charles best friend was Jimmy Seville. Yeah, those guys used to hang out all the time. And like, they knew that he was a pedophile. Everybody knew the guy was a pedophile. It was a creepy, weird dude. I might. I mean, you don't hang out in that dazzle says wouldn't surprise me if he's wearing a kaftan full time. I wouldn't doubt it either. I think the guy is absolutely. The west is done. This is what the current war in Iran is all about.
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A
But.
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B
But here.
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A
Yes. A big part of it is, is that.
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B
Look at this. Well, I mean, some of it is, but look at this right here. Here's King Charles. He gave a Ramadan. Look at this for. He put this out for Ramadan.
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G
Ramadan.
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B
I mean, listen to that. I mean, how can you even listen this time? You. If for the people in the uk. Does this guy nauseate you to the very core. Who talks like this? I mean, my God, you know, he
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A
reminds me of from Gilligan's Island. Who is the one guy the way he would lovey that one.
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B
Thurston hall iii lobby. It's just like. This is the kind of like, accent you put on when you're making fun of people.
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G
Ramadan. Mubarak. Ladies and gentlemen, as Muslims across the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth begin preparations to celebrate Eid after fasting for the holy month of Ramadan. I just wanted to convey my heart on Mubarak, ladies and gentlemen, as Muslims across the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth begin preparations to celebrate Eid after fasting for the holy month around Holy month.
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B
Listen to this guy. What a night.
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G
I just wanted to convey my.
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B
I'm sorry, did you think you were important? Dude, most people hate your ass. They hate your guts.
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G
Heartfelt best wishes to all who celebrate this festival and to tell you just how much my wife and I are thinking of you at this special time of year. This last year, I know, has been deeply challenging for us all, and I'm only too aware of the impact of the pandemic on the Muslim community this year. So many families, like my own, will have an empty seat at their dinner table, and friends are no longer able to share the celebratory hug after Eid prayers.
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A
What? What was he talking about? Who's missing from the dinner table.
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B
I don't know what he's talking about, dude. The guy is a complete. More.
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A
But you know, and from the dinner table.
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B
So on the Graham Norton show, and. And Anna Kendrick was on there, Jeff. And I found this clip, and this reminded me so much of. And I hope we can play this, but now we'll have to cut it out. But it should be common, you know, fair use type of stuff. But you know how that goes, Jeff. But look at this Anna Kendrick story. This is. This is a funny story that was on. On the Graham Norton Show. I like. I like watching Graham Norton. He always. I like how he has all the guests out there, too. Like, that used to be a thing on American television. They'd have all the guests. And I like the interaction between the guests, not just between the host and the guests. Like, there's more fun things that happen between them. Yeah, pretty much. Jeff, tell me if you hear sound in this, please. I'm gonna play this, but tell me if you hear sound. Yeah, okay, cool. So look at. This is. So. This reminds me so much of the King Charles. Now, Anakandrick, you've noticed something about British people and the way they speak, that we do a funny thing.
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I
Well, we think it's funny. Well, no. I mean, I love all the. Every regional accent, every dialect. I'm a big fan.
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B
You're not getting into that scone mess.
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I
Please don't touch my neck. But I like that because there's so many accents to such a small country. Everybody sort of puts on different voices when they're doing little bits and stuff. But I had a thing where I was checking into a hotel and somebody came out and said, oh, do you need help with your bags? And I thought they were doing a bit, so I went, ugh. I've been traveling all day. You have no idea. And then they kept talking like that, so I had to, like, slowly transition out of it. And I know that that sounds like an exaggeration of their voice, but then I was back in, like, hundreds of years later, and they were on TV on gogglebox, because it was Steph and Dom from gogglebox.
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B
Isn't that amazing?
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I
I don't actually talk like that.
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B
That is hilarious. I never knew that that was a real hotel. Ben. Breakfast thing. You stay there.
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H
Yeah.
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I
And accidentally made fun of them to their face.
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B
Oh, God. I've been traveling. It's. What's. It's. What's. What is that accent? It's like the King Charles accent, man. It's too funny. It's too much, man. Look at this. Soul of Joffrey says you guys have been good. Hey, man, good to see you again, man. Good to see you. It's very good to see you. But I thought that was funny because I had to happen to seen that. That little bit, and I thought, that's got to be. Sounds like Charles all the way, man. He's such a Welsh.
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A
The Welsh? Oh, man, no, the Welsh go to the Highlands.
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B
I traveled up and down Wales. I had no problem with the Welsh. You know what a problem with. Not even in Scotland that I have a problem. I understand the Scottish accent really well. I took a taxi ride. I was in. I was in. Where was I in London? I don't know. I was in. I was in Ireland. I think I was in Dublin. I might have been in Northern Ireland, but I was Northern Ireland. I was Northern Ireland. And I took a taxi ride. I didn't have no clue what the guy says. I was like, oh, yeah. I go like, dude, what language is this guy speaking? And I was with my buddy who's English. He goes, dude, I don't know what he's saying. He's like. Because I don't know what he's saying. I was with my English buddy. He's like, I don't know what he's saying. We were like. We were driving and I was like, that was hard for me. I mean, but there was only, like a few times where I was having a difficulty. But usually the normal Irish accent's not a big deal. But this guy was. I don't know if it's just Northern Ireland, like, the dialect up there, but holy cow. And I traveled along the. Well. So what I learned about the Welsh is they hate the English so bad, dude. It was like crazy. I was with two English friends, a couple, and we were driving all the way up. We were just like driving all the way up the coast and we were staying at places. We stayed this one bed and breakfast. And what was interesting was we stayed at this bed and breakfast and it was the pub downstairs, and it was like the bed and breakfast upstairs. And we were sitting there at the bar and it was getting later. And this is. This is back when they used to close at around 11 o' clock back when. I don't know if they still do, but. But it was getting late and I was sitting there just like hanging out with people. We were doing, you know, shots at the bar, and I was like, getting. And meanwhile, I look over in the corner and the sitting room in the corner Just like, half drinking tea, like, you know, drinking tea. I'm like, what are you guys doing over there? Like, playing the jukebox. We're shooting pool. I'm hanging out with people. We're singing songs. They're already having a great time. And I said, I said to them, I go, like, hey, man. I go, I go, those are my friends over there. And they go like, ah, come on over. What are you doing over there? Right? I said, I have to preface it with their English. Please cut them a break. And they like, oh, it's okay. It's so. It's okay. They were like, oh, they were like. Because every time we went to go eat somewhere, they go, you have to go first. And I remember we went to this one place and was kind of like a posh place. And I said, hi, I'm here with my. There's three of us. And they go, who are your friends? I said, they're right here. They go, we'll tell them to come here. I was like, okay. As soon as they open their mouth, they're like, nah, we don't have anything available. I've never seen anything in my life. I thought they were joking. They're like, you're gonna, you're gonna see that. They don't really care for the English that much. I'm like, yeah, you guys are making it up. I'm sure it's, it's okay. And what I saw was like something completely different. You couldn't get into a restaurant. They kicked us out of a place. And then this, this bed and breakfast we were in, which I'll get into another thing. My room was haunted. That's a whole other story. But there's like a cemetery right next to her. But it was a haunted thing, man. It was a crazy story. But I, I, they, they, they closed, they locked the door and they closed everything off. And they pulled all the shades down and we partied till two in the morning, drinking. And then, you know, I went up to my room and I realized, you know, I probably need one more pint. So I'm like, I go downstairs and it's, the bar is completely closed. And I'm like, this is great. So I go grab a pint glass, pour myself a pint. I go upstairs and I'm walking upstairs, creaking up the stairs. I go in my room and I woke up the next day with that full pint sitting next to my, next to my, on my table there. But, yeah, what a, What a crazy bunch of. They hate the English. My God. I. I knew it was. I knew it was rough, but my God, Jeff, they wouldn't even let them in. And we. And they kicked us out of a restaurant. And I said, well. I said, well, everyone else is standing. I know you guys got to go. I'm like, why? And they said, well, you can stay. I mean, when you. When you're in America and you're, like, more prized, like, more, you know, touted than a British person, I was like, holy cow. I was. They're like, what do you mean, my friends can't. No, no, they have to go because they're English. They kicked them out of the restaurant when they were done.
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A
Crazy. That's crazy. It's funny traveling over there, you know, around. Around. I've. I've seen. There's tension when you go to. When you're in. In. In Brussels, in Belgium, you know, there's. There's tension between kind of German, French, and then all the different regions. There's always a little bit of tension no matter where you go. But it's. It's funny. We were over in England, my son was a lot younger, and we're driving kind of up the coast, and I said, oh, next we're going to go to Wales. And he goes, wales? He goes, how come Wales? Why do we have to go see the whales? What do the whales have to do for us? We had this whole conversation. No, not. We're not going to see whales, but we're gonna go.
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B
Right. Well, that was my. I wanted to check out that bucket list. I want to go to all four and, you know, hundreds of, you know, parts of the UK and. And done that, and hanging out with local people. I found just, you know, travels to be really good and. Well, before we get out of here, Jeff, I want to play this. You know, the Artemis 2. Supposedly, he's going to the moon. Jeff. It's so funny. There's all this. I watched the launch take off. I watched it take off. And, like, there's. You can't find anything on it. Like, even the live tracking is a joke. It's like, there's real camera. There's no cameras on there. There's no cameras on. You can't see what the crew's doing. There's no. Like, you can't even find anything that's going on. Supposedly, you know, these four crew members. One's Canadian, there's a woman, and there's three men. One of them is. I don't know who's the Canadian, but they. One of the One of the guys is, you know, black. And they said to him, they asked, of course a liberal reporter has to bring race into everything. They just can't say, like, what's it, you know, how does it feel going around the moon or going further than anybody has ever gone. But this is the question they asked him and I thought he gave a pretty good answer.
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J
It is a big question. And I want to highlight, I guess maybe one facet of this is the tension. I call it. I live in this.
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B
You know, they asked them, like, what does it feel being the first black man to visit the moon? Of course it's going to be a lefty reporter who non stop can't talk. Stop talking about race. You can't talk about a man's accomplishment. You got to bring race into the picture.
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J
It is a big question. And I want to highlight, I guess maybe one facet of this is the tension. I call I live in this, you know, this dichotomy between happiness that a young woman can look at Christina and just physicalize her passion or her interest or even if it's not something she wants to do, she can just be like girl power. And that's awesome. And that young brown boys and girls can look at me and go, hey, he looks like me. And he's doing what? And that's great. I love that. But I also hope we are pushing the other direction, that one day we don't have to talk about these first. That one day this is just. And I listen to this, that this is the human history. It's about human history. It's the story of humanity. Not black history, not women's history, but that it becomes human history.
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A
And it could be if the reporters would drop it. We were there in the 90s, the 90s, everybody was getting along. And then come the Democrats, they destroyed it. And then come Obama. And he even. We had already gotten beyond it. It's so amazing. We're moving in that direction and then. And here we go, you know? Yeah.
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B
I got into a thing with one of my buddies. He's like, oh, this is the first thing. I'm like, dude. He goes. He started saying like, well, I go, I go, look at how cramped that is. He goes, well, the Apollo was even more cramped. I go, sure. Have you ever seen go the Smithsonian? Seen that that was out in space, that went to the moon. Like, what happened to the cameraman on the moon when that thing took off? And it's like a little spark.
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A
It's like, well, they left, they left someone behind. What are you getting?
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B
Well, it's like if you were going to do like bad. And I said look, we can agree on a lot of things. I'm not saying whether they went to them. Let's not make it about whether they went to the moon or not. But what we saw wasn't on the moon, right? And the first thing I thought of like even as, even as a kid I was asking these questions and I got in trouble a lot because I was asking too many questions in school. Like your kid asks a lot of questions and I think he's doing it just to piss the teachers off. And I really wanted to know. I went to Catholic school and I asked questions about, you know, Catholic doctrine versus biblical doctrine. And you know, Jim Dean and I got in this conversation when we met up but I started asking questions and they were like, oh, trying to sweep it under the rub. I'm like, well there are no sacraments in the Bible. So explain kind of do. Well, it's kind of a. Well that one. Why, why is, why does it even exist? It's stupidest thing ever, right? Why don't they go, why don't they do a confession when I can just go confess my skins since they got right. So there's always this, this sort of like weird thing going on back and forth here.
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A
Hey, just real quick, Bruce Mason brought up. This is important. You know anyone if you're doing concealed carry, if you have a web get to know the laws in and around the area. But Bruce is saying there's something called the hero protection clause. Now as you go through here, he said attorneys on retainer now has implemented a new clause protecting those who conceal carry in a gun free zone. Section 3 subsection K highly recommend reading that go through make sure you understand it. There's certain protections in and around concealed carry and if you go to your nearest gun range, gun shop, you can even ask, you know, there's always, you know, different there even online but you always want to make sure you know before using. Obviously in your own house it's a different story. So that'd be great. I like this more monkey business said if you come to the UK we can hook up and I'll take yours all around. Yeah, that'd be, that's awesome. It's really cool, you know, being able to travel around and, and seeing everything Devon Steve said some back some 45 years when I was a trainee had to wear uniform on weekend liberty. Went to London, stumbled into an Irish bar back of Oxford street. Didn't have to buy a drink all night. There you go. You know, there's a lot of, a lot of good things, a lot of good people. That's my experience. Anywhere I went, I was in Scotland, met all great people. England met all great people, went all around. We are all over England other than the speeding tickets and the congestion show phone tickets and, and all of that. But outside of that, parking tickets. And they just show up after the fact. It's like, you know, the tickets seem to pile up there. It's so hard.
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B
They have the cameras everywhere, Jeff. They just take a picture. You don't even know. It's not like a cop's going to
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A
pull you over red lights over there. Because especially in London. You drive through London and it's a little bit confusing as the crisscross of the roads. And then if you hit a congestion zone and, and if you don't remember to go on and pay your £10 congestion zone fee, then you get a ticket. The ticket was like 100 bucks, you know, so I had to pay that. Similar to like when you go over to Switzerland. Speed limits are insane over there. Up and down, up and down, up and down. You can't avoid getting speeding tickets. But, but it's great, great people like all over Ireland, great people like everywhere you go, you know, you just have to be open to just, you know, meeting people and seeing the culture. And this is what we talk about the invasion. Those coming as they've empty. If they've allowed these African countries and, and Muslim countries and you know, they've just allowed them to invade into con. Into Europe and, and the way it's changing the demographic, meaning that you're taking a completely different culture in mass and dumping it into sovereign states in order with the objective of changing the culture within those countries. And people can come from anywhere in the world. Like the US is a melting pot. But when you grab a mass number of people and dump them and there's no way to, to help them assimilate into the US culture. What you're doing is replacing the culture in, in, like in Minneapolis. So you brought all the Somalis there. None of them have been assimilated. They brought them in mass numbers. Just like Spain, 500, 600,000, a million people, whatever. Now it's 20% of the culture. And you see videos of what the streets look like. It's not European streets anymore. You've taken African culture wherever they came from and you basically just dumped it into Europe. It changes the whole fundamentals. You can't do that. Unless your objective is to destroy the countries from within, which is what it is and what they're doing. You have to be extremely cognizant of that. And now they have to. Exactly. The Rape of Europe. Very plant. Extremely detailed. And so. But it's interesting, too, because when you see the Islamic groups that are popping up, the extremist elements throughout Europe, they're the very groups that they kicked out of the Middle East. They don't want them in Saudi Arabia. They didn't want them in. In the uae, they didn't want them in Egypt. They didn't want them anywhere in that region. They got kicked out. And they. And a lot of those groups are illegal over there. And guess where they. They are allowed to operate in the US, In Europe. And it's because of the naivete of the populations. You get the. The Americans and. And the Europeans, they don't understand it as much as they want to make believe that they do. Chip. It just. It's really.
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B
It's. I'm segueing back to this. I'm going to segue back to my original. What I. What I started checking, going back to the moon. Okay, look at this right here. So this is the famous picture we've all seen, right? No, There we go. Now, the funny part about that is look at the way the. The Earth is lit, okay? The Earth. The Earth is turning around the sun. The. The moon, depending on where the moon is and where the sun is. But just look at the way the lighting is. Now, one of the things, if we look at where the. Where the Apollo missions landed, there's a Sea of serenity, there's a Sea of tranquility, right? Sea of. This is where all the places were right? Now, in order for this picture to actually happen, this one here, this is. You have to. Well, you have to be looking. You have to be on the top, right. To be. To get a picture of, like, where you see part of the Earth. And you can't be on the side because that would be you looking up, right? If you're on the thing, you'd be. You'd have to look up and take the shot which you wouldn't see any of the Earth, you wouldn't see any of the Moon. All right? So that's a fabricated shot right there. And then if you look at this picture right here, this is supposedly an image of Earth and the moon from 2007 from the Hirai's camera orbiting Mars on NASA's. Okay, so look at. Look at the way that these two Are you know where this is lit? So this is Robin on Earth. Earth's Robin, the sun. Right. Look at the way these are lit. And you see, they're both lit on the same side. So how is it that this picture here is lit on? It's. The whole thing doesn't even make any sense. I mean, it's like. Okay. And then all the stuff we see and then the dust kicking up and the thing. I actually saw a really good video. I don't know if I should play this video. I thought this was very, very interesting. You know, when they talk about they lost the technology to go back, I thought this was really good. Let me pull this up, Jeff. Let me pull this up real quick, and then we'll. Let me get out of here. I know, I know. I saved it in one of my bookmarks.
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A
I gotta play a song on the way.
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B
Okay, here we go. So this guy has a take on why we don't have. Why we lost the technology to go, supposedly go back to the moon.
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A
I don't understand that. Well, we have it, but even Elon Musk talked about it.
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B
Oh, this is interesting, the way he. Oh, hang on a second. Oh, for God, man.
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A
Elon Musk is bringing us back.
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B
Yeah, so. Yeah. And the original Apollo mission didn't have any shielding from the Van Allen Belts radiation. And. Yeah, okay, sure, sure, I'm sure we did it. Listen, this guy here. This is interesting.
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K
Walt Disney was very close with Werner von Braun. Walt Disney and Verna von Braun did a lot together with studio production, space travel, all of that. Okay, hear me out. This is wild. All right, so why can't they reshoot the moon? What if they can't go back? Because they really did lose the technology to film it looking like that. This is the area I know a lot on. You've never heard me discredit the moon landing because of shadows or photography or why can't we see the stars? I'm not a photographer. I know about production. For me, it was the tilt up as they left and then everything else. All the logistics, sending a live broadcast from the moon. I know what live broadcast does. I know how much power it needs. I know how ridiculous that is. I was just like. Once I saw it, I'm like, this is the area I know a lot about. Okay, so one thing about the moon landing, as you could see, like, you could see, like, dust in the air a little bit. Like, there was certain shots that wouldn't work on a green screen. Let me get to the point here.
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A
Or Blue screen. But there are lots of problems with green screen. Even in this modern era. You can't film blurry or transparent things. You can't wear clothes that are the same color as the screen. The spill often times ruins footage. If I want to make a movie about a clown wearing all the colors of the rainbow getting married on Mars, I can't. That bothers me. If I could get my hands on an invention that didn't have any of these issues, it would be like a film making superpower. It would be like magic.
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E
Do you really think so?
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A
What's special about that hat?
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B
It's transparent.
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K
It's okay. You see this? That transparent hat that she's wearing in the film Just a Spoonful of Sugar. What's the name? Mary Poppins?
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B
What's the name?
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K
Hollywood can't currently do this.
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A
I thought the stuff I was seeing on screen was impossible. They're keying a veil, they're keying salt smoke. They're even wearing blue.
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K
Okay, so this, they're keying salt. So you're gonna need that for a freaking moon landing. Like you can't do that with a green screen. You can't do that with Imax Warner Brothers production. You can't do that smoke.
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A
They're even wearing blue and green clothes. This movie from 1964 broke every rule of Chroma King. And they did it all without computers.
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B
So how do they do it?
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A
To explain the science behind the magic, we are joined by Dr. Paul Babevic.
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L
The sodium vapor process. Instead of a blue screen or a green screen, they used what was sometimes called a yellow screen. It's a very specific screen spectrum of yellow made from a low pressure sodium vapor light that puts out one wavelength of light at 589 nanometers. Because it's just one wavelength. And because of how dichroic filters work, you can actually block just that one wavelength or let just that one wavelength go through. So the magic of the sodium vapor process is they used a beam splitter prism so that the light that comes through the lens gets split onto two strips of film at the same time.
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K
Because this is in the the early 60s, Walt Disney has this cube, okay? And if you watch the moon footage, it requires this cube. They literally are like, we lost the tech to go back to the moon. Like we can't shoot it.
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B
All.
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L
The rest of the spectrum goes through and can expose a color image of the actor. And that's exactly what you need to get your mat. You can block that one wavelength of yellow without messing up all of the other colors in that scene. There's no matte lines. He's motion blurring. He's dancing around.
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K
Yeah. And, dude, they're just rubbing it in. There's no reason that he's spreading salt everywhere. That's Disney flexing. That's probably why I got all those government contracts. He's like, I can shoot fake with dust and salt.
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L
Compositing is impeccable.
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A
Yeah, it's perfect.
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L
You couldn't have gotten such great blur over the Alpha channel with a green screen.
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K
Yep, that's Dick Dyke right there. That's old Dick Dyke.
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L
You know, a blue screen.
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A
It seems too good to be true. Why are we not still using this technology today?
- [94:33]
J
Yeah, really.
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B
What gives?
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A
Because they were never able to replicate Prism. What? I've read that Disney was only able to produce one prism. Is that true?
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L
They had to join two pieces of glass and then have layers of material with different indices of refraction. It's a very custom job. Apparently, there were three of these ever made. And also, we don't know where any of these prisms are today.
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K
What if Disney hit it at Mecca? What if he's like, the f. The. The final cube where you can shoot dust and salt like you're on the moon. I've hidden it where you will never find it. Let's just say some Muslim circle it a lot.
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A
I don't know about that.
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B
I don't know. Listen, what we saw was not the moon. I. You know, we've heard, you know, famous directors shot a lot of that stuff. A lot of it looks like it was done in a studio. Okay, does that mean we need to go to the moon? No, it means the stuff we saw was garbage. And they projected on a wall. And all the TV cameras could. It wasn't. A live feed was projected onto a wall, which gives you pause right there. Like, how was a live feed coming through? What kind of a signal was it? It was an analog signal. How was it translated into a projection? And why was it put on a wall? There's just a lot of stuff, Jeff, that doesn't make any sense, you know, but anyway, that's not. That's another time. It's a whole other thing.
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A
We did fake the moon landing. What does it say? You got to go back in time to that period and figure out what was happening when. With all of that. With the Soviet Union. There are multiple facets at play, you know, and so there. I think there's a lot of moving pieces at that moment. And the race to achieve higher technologies as we're competing with the Soviet Union. Then you think about similar kind of close proximity time frame with the Cuban Missile crisis, and there are all these different interesting things happening in around that same period of time. And it was all about the race to technology and the US There we had two primary superpowers, right? We had the Soviet union and the U.S. and so the race. And then, you know, and so then we had the arms race. And then, you know, one thing stacked up on the other to see which political ideology was going to win out and that. And, and here we go. And now we know obviously what happened historically speaking. And here we are going forward. And. And now they've changed tactics and, you know, the. And so now we have to overcome the tactic that they're employing right now. It's. It's also an arms race, so to speak. Very interesting.
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B
Yeah, Buzz did say that a bunch of times. The little girl asked him about that. He goes, you know, why don't we go back? He goes, that's my question. You know, and the funny thing is the Artemis, like, like having. Why would you put people. This is the best thing ever. Like, I mean, honestly, why would you put people on a spacecraft? Even Elon Musk said it's impossible without the refueling to go to this. This. He's con. He's talking about the whole process to be able to go to the moon itself. Like he says you have to refuel in mid space and then to be able to go. And supposedly this thing, it's got. It looks like a bigger version of the capsule with some, you know, I don't know if it's got solar panels on it. Like, you know, it looks fragile as hell. And it's going to fly around the moon. It's going to come to splash down. And why do they have to go? Apparently they go around the Earth twice to be shot back out and then go around the moon. What's the point? You're testing, like, can you go there? I'm like, dude, we supposedly had all these Apollo missions that ended in 74, 3 or 74 from 69. And the reason it ended was because there's no appetite for the, for the funding anymore. Like, why are you still going to the moon? But, like, people even burned out on it. So it didn't have the funding that it should have had. And you know, it's. The whole thing to me is just there's a lot to break down. But it's so crazy. Like, people are like, well, that's that's, you know, and also breaking through, you know, the atmosphere and everything else. Come on, man. If Elon Musk said we can't do it, we can't do it without some refueling type of operations, but sure. And what would you. What's the point of going around the moon? Like if you said like 50 years ago we went to the moon and landed on there and exited. And landed and exit, right? You know the, the precision. If a capsule blasting off and rejoining. Do you know the precision that it takes to do that? And what is the lift mechanism underneath that thing? If you ever look at that Apollo thing, in part, it looks like it's put together duct tape and you know, aluminum foil. It's just, it's very embarrassing. It's like you, you think they would have made a better effort than the moon vehicle. You're like, where was that? Like even to reassemble it. If you saw the size of the capsule and the eight the astronauts of this, where did they put the moon rover? Right?
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A
Where did they say, was it external?
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B
Well, they, but they've never really come up with a reason where that was. Meanwhile, it's got giant tires on it. It's got like these two seats look like lawn chairs, right? And it costs like 40 billion, $40 million to make this stupid thing. This is not even a, it doesn't even look like a nice looking golf cart. The hardware alone, there's nowhere to put that in the capsule. But they're riding around on it and they're bouncing on the moon. So with a weight to keep it down without, you know, rising up supposedly, right? And then it's kicking up dust like they're shot out in some field. The shadows don't align with. You know, you can't have multiple shadow directions if you're only. Your only lighting source is the sun. People say the shadows, they try to explain that the whole thing is, it just, it creates more questions than answers. And I just don't understand what the point would be go around like what's.
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A
John said it was folded up under the land. And then they, they put it together, they assembled it.
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B
Yeah, sure it was.
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A
There's a lot of questions about it, but it's kind of crazy.
- [100:40]
B
And nobody else went supposedly. You know, non manned crews went there. You know, like India went there like two years ago. And yeah, China went there and Japan went there. Okay. But nobody went there and put people on there. And here we are in 20, 26, 50 years later. Nobody is landing on the moon. It tells you A lot tells you a lot. It's all pretty much all you need to know.
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A
They took the first steps. I think somebody else. Somebody else would have had to have gotten out, filmed it, and then they let them come out to make their first steps. Right.
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B
But nobody like, when you ask that question, you're like, people look, but they just like, oh, yeah, maybe. Or when it's blasting off, you know, it's got some little sparks, like really bad. A model production that they blasted off and then the camera follows them up. You didn't have that technology. Some guy wrote a whole thesis. I can't find the data points. But he wrote that back then they didn't have the technology to beam a signal back to Earth. They didn't have the. And the guy talks about the power necessary to do that. So look, I mean, it was a good scam. It was a good scam. Button 2026. We're going around the moon this time, guys. Okay, well, supposedly we had all these multiple Apollo missions that landed on the moon.
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A
Ah, but if we could go around
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B
the moon 50 years, Jeff. We got more technology in our phone. We have more memory in our phone.
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A
Why not just send the rocket? We have enough AI and everything else to record and instruments. Jeff, satellites.
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B
Because you can't.
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A
We'll fly it around and we'll take all the telemetry necessary.
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B
Did you hear about the, about the Outlook or something had some issue with the Microsoft software on the. On the.
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A
Yeah, because they're on Outlook. Why would you be on Outlook? Why Outlook? I don't understand.
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B
I don't know. But it's like imagine you have and someone said, what an achievement. The very first ticket logged from space. I'm like, that's not something I want to take. You know, and this.
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A
Forget your email.
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B
I'm like, first of all, Outlook is the worst. I will take, I will take open source software over that. It's just absolutely horrendous. That's why most people are. Most enterprise companies are. You know, Google shops where they just use Gmail to manage your stuff. It's 100 people.
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A
I don't understand. People switch from Google to Microsoft. What are you guys doing? Like, oh, we have nothing but problems. Like, who goes that way? Everybody goes the other way. No, no, anyone that goes from that goes. Most people are going Microsoft to Google. But I mean, it's shocking. Yeah, that's right. I like this one. Xav gun to the moon. That's right. Going to the moon. Imagine you can get XRP on the moon. What's that going to take?
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B
Yeah, all energy. It's all energy harvesting, so.
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A
That's right. An old commodore 64 had more cpu capacity than the original space shuttle. Think about that. 64K. Right, right. 64K, right. It wasn't. Yeah, 64K. The Commodore 64, I think what. It definitely.
- [103:39]
B
Yeah. Did it go. Did it circle around the earth? 100%, man. You know, and they put that cell up on there, and it's like they made it look like they showed a portion of the Earth to make it look like it was further away. And then they. Oh, that's just. Come on, man. I mean, if you have some. If you have some reasoning going on, some logic skills, you go like, no, I'm sorry. Just. There's too much that doesn't make sense here. And the fact that we didn't say, like, okay, well, if I were to watch Artemis and where's the. Where's all the video from this thing? Supposedly, it's a big deal. We're going around the moon, Jeff. This is a big deal. We're, for the first time in how many years since the last Apollo mission? 73, 74. We're going back to the moon and there's zero coverage on it. Nobody cares. Like, I don't think anybody believes it. I think it's a joke. And the funny thing is, who brought it up in the chat that it was launched on April Fool's Day? So, yeah, I say this to my buddy, and he thinks I'm insane. He goes, dude, you're one of those crazy conspiracy theories. I'm like, dude, answer the questions.
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A
I like space.
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B
I love it, too, dude, but I think it's just a joke, man. And rock, ocean,
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A
where do they go?
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B
Well, it could be. If you take a shot, you don't let it. The shutter, the aperture, you would see it as black. You wouldn't see. You wouldn't necessarily capture the stars. I could. I could go with that speed because
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A
it's dark and yet that makes it a little.
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B
Right. And if you open the aperture too much, you'd blow out the Earth, supposedly. Right. But if you just take it at the stars itself, you got a clear shot of it, and you open the aperture enough, you could probably burn the stars and. Because it's so dark. But, I mean, I can give you that one. I'm not gonna harp on that one, but there's too much weird stuff.
- [105:13]
A
There's someone else. And you think your view of the stars would be amazing up there?
- [105:20]
B
Well, yeah, they even Asked the astronauts, like, I don't know, I don't remember seeing stars. Like they don't even know what they're gonna say. And if you watch that press conference from the first Apollo mission where they're all sitting there, it looked like they all lost their best friends. Honestly, I 100 think that the astronauts actually thought they were going to the movie that they told them. I don't think they realized they were just going to orbit the Earth for you know, a bunch of rounds. And you know, like they went up there and they splashed down. But that's, there's some, there's some stuff that's come out around that too that took a helicopter and you know, dropped it off. And last battle, Europe. Anyway, that's all the time we got these, we went along 1 hour 45.
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A
But let me play this, the intro to the song real quick. I think it'll be fun.
- [106:01]
B
Yeah, I think it's great. This is the. Well, tell them, tell them what the proposal is about first.
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A
So here's the thing. If you guys have been on the Zodel and, and Chip had mentioned before, there's a ten dollar entry fee to get into this out. My proposal is that we re up and have that $10 be an annual reoccurring fee. Now you know, hear me out on this one because I think it's really important. If you put it one dot, one time, $10 initiation of the Zao, that means that you're going to have a lot of individuals that are going to be sitting in the background doing nothing. And then when vote time comes around, they may or may not vote. There's two reasons as to why you want re engagement. Because we want serious people in the Dow, people that are going to be invested. And you're talking about $10 a year. That's nothing. But that reinvestment is getting more engagement into the community because we want community engagement within the Dow and that way we're doing that. The other part of it is that as you build it up, you're also bringing in an annual contribution to the Treasury. Now think about it from that perspective. The DAO has to operate in order to help build and support development and developers in the community. Therefore, you know, having a re up of $10, which is nothing, will help bring money annually into the Treasury. You can then build an argument beyond that to increase it. But right now at a thousand members, you think about that $10 is 10,000, but a thousand, imagine it's you know, 10,000 members or a hundred thousand Members the size of the XRP community. We know those that got involved in in intervention into the lawsuit was around 78,000. Now imagine if all of them. We know there's lots and lots of wallets out there, but imagine you know, a half of them. But, but let's say it was a hundred thousand. That eventually as this builds up which their platforms have lots of users on them, you can't survive. But imagine you have 10,000 in there. So that re up is really, really important. That's $100,000 every year that go to operational that could do all these different things that are needed within a treasury to have continuous revenue revenue into the treasury and that's annual and it's a one time ten dollar re up investment. I think it's really important. And then rack your legacy in this system. Now the thing is if you don't re up within my proposal, it doesn't mean that you're canceled out.
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B
We're losing people. Jeff, please play a song. People want to bail and they got to hear the song. It's a good one.
- [108:37]
A
There's the song. Okay, here we go. Let me play the song. It'll explain it all to you guys. Here we go. Wrote a song about it. Here we go.
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B
The future
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H
of Z
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B
isn't built by those who joined, it's built by those who stay.
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H
You showed up once and vanished out. Now you got opinions running your mouth. You won't control troll but you won't invest. You want a voice but you dies a test. You want the upside, skip the weight. You want the win without the sake. That's not real, that's fantasy. You don't feel, you just pass. In the wall. This is how we build. Yeah, you call it a grab. I call it survival. You want it live then bring some value. Nothing grows when nothing flows. You cut the roots and blame the soil. You drain it down. The next surprise when everything around you dies. That's not a system, that's decay. And you're the reason it fades away. Day to stay or move away. Transition. Renewal, build up, break. You don't have to like it. You don't have to stay. But you don't get to stay. If you walk away, don't fade away. Don't lose your place. Transition.
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G
The future belongs
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B
to those who stay. Damn good song, Jeff.
- [111:00]
A
The future belongs to those who stay.
- [111:02]
B
Keep on stacking. Really like the OTC graphic. Which one? This one? This one right here. OTC on the chain. See these green screens work great, Jeff. How beautiful it looks.
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A
I Love the badass yeti.
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B
See? Works great. Let's see if I can. So great. These green screens work.
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A
He just gave away all the maggish and magic.
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B
There it is. That's for those who stay, Jeff.
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A
That's right.
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B
The magic, baby. It's magic. The future belongs those who stay. Right on, baby. That was a great line. There's some good lines in there, man. I like it. They stay, stay, pay your way. Some good stuff. And the good thing about that is you go when you go. Look at that. That link is in the proposal so people can see. So that was, like, very unique. But anyway, guys, we're getting out of here. There's no show tomorrow.
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L
Why?
- [112:01]
B
We did a longer one today. Because tomorrow is Easter. Happy Easter. For those who celebrate, it's a fantastic day. Lord has risen. That's. I'll celebrate. And we'll be back on Wednesday, just later this week. So, guys, have yourself a fantastic Easter and a great rest of your weekend.
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A
Jeff, I think, keep on stacking.
- [112:20]
B
Cool. Peace, guys. Appreciate you guys. Appreciate you guys. That's all we have, man. We will see.
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A
Hans, never noticed your lemon tree till now. What?
- [112:29]
B
Come on, dude. Now pay attention, man. Details. The details. You notice this guy right here? Warrior. Warrior.
- [112:38]
A
That's right.
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B
Yeah. That's all we have, guys. We will be out of here. So see you guys in the next one. Chip and Jeff. Oh,
- [112:49]
A
are you down with otc?
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B
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